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mircea_popescu: it is possible they were rickrolled and didn't realise it, i didn't stick around to investigate.
mircea_popescu: upon examination, they are exuding from a chicken rotisserie with disco lights that is evidently a brothel that is having karaoke night.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : while walking through the barrio chino, i'm struck by the unmistakable effluvia of... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
BingoBoingo: My concern is more the local consumer behavior
mod6: i don't eat as much beef as i used to i guess. more pork & chicken these days
mod6: i'd like to say 'sad', but then i aught to feel sad for myself as I probably eat a lot of feed-lot beef myself.
BingoBoingo: McCain needs to be bitter about the things that matter, like when Dubya stole his nomination in 2000
ben_vulpes: mccain's deathbed lulz are grade a: he'd rather have the aborter-in-chief around, totally fries leeb heads who'd just started to like the old coot
BingoBoingo: Eh, they are dead on the inside anyway
mircea_popescu: because totally, politburo didn't die, it just caught a charter flight to ny.
mircea_popescu: i thought the big story out of the soviet united these days is which geezer said which other geezer isn't welcome at his funeral.
BingoBoingo: The stretching for anything at all to scandalize is stretching far
BingoBoingo: Becuase who would lend at a favorable rate for that. Or as Trump want to deal with bankruptcy in different jurisdictions
BingoBoingo: But apparently the controversy is that AFTER that... He paid cash for some golf courses outside the US.
mircea_popescu: heh, he's not alone. the vegas strip was built out of junk bonds after all.
BingoBoingo: Well, this is Trump who powered his comedy through the 1990s on bankruptcy law
mircea_popescu: i don't think i ever paid anything but cash or personal notes. wtf "lenders".
BingoBoingo: From a piece butthurt Trump starting paying cash for some real estate purchases...
BingoBoingo: And in the latest Pantsuit thrashings via WaPo on money laundering: "Not taking on debt from a regulated lender, in short, can remove an entire layer of scrutiny from the acquisition process."
mircea_popescu: but my expectation is that it'll be purely subjective, "i divide fire into good-useful fire (GUF) such as when i cook, insidious-noxious fire (INF) such as when my pregnant wife smokes and bad-terrible fire (BTF) such as when arson." the guf-inf-btf model is however not a fucking classification of fire.
mircea_popescu: anyway, very much an open problem, of course. you never know, maybe someday someone actually comes up with some manner of classifying the scum into something.
mircea_popescu: rural mommies all over the soviet union prayed for their children to get "an office job" in the great new state being built ; and before the soviet union was invented the EXACT SAME women, physically identically the same notwithstanding the centuries in between them, were praying for at least one of their sons to be a priest. for the same exact reasons, escapism is fundamentally the losers' adaptation.
mircea_popescu: none of them will ever get what they seek, for what they seek a) never existed in the fragmentary, orcish way they represent it and b) existed when it did in a context which specifically requires, as an absolute necessity, their non-existence to exist. so....
mircea_popescu: what are they, aspirants to the "middle class" in the exact sense rednecks are aspirants to "the traditional family" and christians aspire to catholicism.
mircea_popescu: y!) has 4 NOT!!!11-spells but something ENTIRELY-elses, which nevertheless do a) 30 dmg + 5x to 1 target ; b) 15dmg + 7x to 1 target ; c) 5 dmg + 3x to 3 targets and d) 10 dmg + 10x to all targets provided a b or c were cast five times prior.
mircea_popescu: the best model i can summon is indeed the http://trilema.com/2016/the-eastern-rpg/ : there's a "mage" which has 4 spells which do a) 30 dmg + 5x to 1 target ; b) 15dmg + 7x to 1 target ; c) 5 dmg + 3x to 3 targets and d) 10 dmg + 10x to all targets provided a b or c were cast five times prior. then there's an... "assassin", whatever the fuck, paladin, electropostalist, metamicronicist, anything whatsoever -- which (importantl
asciilifeform: to distinguish'em, is only really a productive work if it can be found that they e.g. respond to different ddt.
mircea_popescu: and whenever classification fails, we know two things : one is that the subject is not worth the mention, hence why they're called "scum" and otherwise not considered ; and the other is that the subject is amorphous, like, exactly, scum.
mircea_popescu: good luck with this fauna, i've not yet seen the wonder where classification was meaningful in any perspective.
mircea_popescu: i mean, the specialist will tell you ~something~. counts legs, counts hairs on legs, counts fucking something. then i can take what he said and apply it and not end up in a contradiction.
mircea_popescu: i am not yet that advanced. as things stand right now, i can't even explain what'd be the morphological differences. at all.
asciilifeform: well once time asciilifeform went to an entomology lab and there was a glass case with a coupla hundred indistinguishable, to asciilifeform's naked eye, mosquitoes . but for the pest control specialist, the exact species presumably -- matters.
mircea_popescu: and if they ever did, a la bernstein, it does eventually get washed out.
mircea_popescu: not like any one among them has anything to say, or anything to contribute, or even has understood anything -- or even SAT DOWN with anything in an attempt, however cursory, to understand.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is even the difference between publish-or-perish-i and publish-or-perish-ii ?
asciilifeform: possibly oughta revive this name for'em
mircea_popescu: very similarily, the pile of esltards trying to salvage the remains of french philosophy, british merchantship and spanish bigotry into some kind of whatever that'll get them through the night can not be fucking distinguished from outside ; nor really are functionally distinct. which is how "academics" denied tenure become either entrepreneurs or journalists, or rather both and indistinctly.
mircea_popescu: s of london poor two centuries ago, depending as they were upon the continued feeding of the urban midden for their subsistence, DID classify, and a rag picker thought himself different from a bone monger or w/e.
mircea_popescu: contrary to all the pretense, there's really 0 difference. "tech journalist" / "academic" / "entrepreneur" / whatever the fuck. i don't distinguish between the doubtless present and in-character very visible "sorts" and "kinds" of african garbage pickers trying to turn the refuse of a great civilisation that doesan't include them into some root paste or w/e they eat. you know for a fact they are so, because the various classe
asciilifeform: academitards quite solidly fall into the most irrevocably damned class of sinner, the knowing type.
mircea_popescu: men-in-tech, the modern man-at-war. wtf do you even call the scum
mircea_popescu: (innocent here being a way to denote the mentally simple)
mircea_popescu: how do you call them ? doods jammed in traffic on the information superhighway, listening to the atlantic talk radio show.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, zx2c4 's "academics" or w/e you'd call them. the rubber chicken guzzlers, the conference goers, the code-of-conducted, the everyday cuck
mircea_popescu: it's rather comparable to how say that inenarable imbecile murdock changed my view with the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-02#1692407 ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which these ? ( the victims ? perps ? ..both ? )
mircea_popescu: the debian scandal is unparallelable because for me it made the phase transition from "these are people" to "these are not people". similarily to how the blockchain genesis is more important than block x+1.
mircea_popescu: in your mind, the chicken is spherical. in practice, the chicken you'd find would come with the usual gunk and mud the "average person" attaches to things. "oh, we were only joking/doing exercise/it's obvious this doesn't count" "oh we researched this and forgot to publish anything" bla bla bla. then the real chicken you found will seem insufficiently spherical to you just like all the others prior.
asciilifeform: but really, mircea_popescu , if i find , let's say, a set of breakable pubkeys that with reasonable certainty came from gpg 1.4.10, this will not be a more interesting find than debianized ssh set ?
mircea_popescu: but sure, i don't disagree, the more it finds the better.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-07 18:48 ben_vulpes: i'm still boggled that people appear to outgrow curiosity
mircea_popescu: the way the internet works, everybody already knows about everything on the solid basis of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-07#1810891 etc. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( ~errybody already knows about the debianism. )
mircea_popescu: anyway, honestly nfi what's so magical about gpg in your mind. they're just as rsa keys as the ssh set ; and just as debian, and etcetera.
asciilifeform: ( http://qntra.net/2016/08/phuctor-finds-seven-keys-produced-with-null-rng-and-other-curiosities in vintage lulz ; still digging for the item above )
mircea_popescu: the exact problem of "can't specify the denominator" problem discussed earlier.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually i missed 1 : that german thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, so the standard here is, "a key from the sks system which my gpg at home eats and which is nevertheless not prime and excepting A50591247C8E37A64117B74F78AB527059E13694 / B01584E9F6CB9E76DEA61E2A73786CA0F4EACC4F because reasons and with a special review clause for later on left blank atm" ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is also possible that winblowz 'original' pgp eats. but afaik nobody yet tried.
asciilifeform: ( jurov found 2 separate ones, they've been in the faq for a while )
mircea_popescu: afaik this exact discussion ended in 2015 with the showing of how gpg will eat.
asciilifeform: but has not much in common with what you and i , use. and, more importantly, given 'piltdown man'-stitched-out-of-parts ~random selfsigs, ~anyone~ could have produced the mirrorolade. you can trivially create it for every pubkey in phuctor.
mircea_popescu: you gotta mutilate ssh also to get it to spit out / use the 2k+ broken ssh keys ?
asciilifeform: and yes it is conceivable that the proggy that produced'em, was given name of 'gpg', somewhere, somehow.
asciilifeform: argument is that you gotta mutilate any and all of the extant gpgs pretty heavily to get'em to even eat 1.
mircea_popescu: indeed, there is no known, meaning anything can be the case.
asciilifeform: there is no known version of gpg that shits or even eats mirrorolade, it can only come out of a purpose-built mutilator, OR one of the various js pgptrons that dun check or produce selfsigs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, as far as anyone knows, that's exactly where they came from.
mircea_popescu: yes, the time when a key whose N is the product of two numbers nevertheless is discoveref to have factors other than the two prime numbers in question is, indeed, a most rapturous occasion.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the standard is ~could have come out of a pc pgptron, e.g. gpg~
asciilifeform: ( you can click the links, incidentally, and immediately learn this )
mircea_popescu: it's not clear to me what the standard you propose is, but anyway.
asciilifeform: all 3 of the given.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i was discussing the dozen gpg generated, sks vintage keys that weren't divisible by 5.
mircea_popescu: it's how they handle their amorous life, finances, education, everything.
mircea_popescu: if i know anything about esltards, it's that far FAR from "i made this so and so, here's the tool binary at the very least, if not source i compiled" they'll instead be "oh nothing happened".
mircea_popescu: there's many dozens of keys that are of dubious origin. who's to know.
asciilifeform: ...closest item to date is the khadeer incident. but that was almost certainly a not-by-named-party creation imho
asciilifeform is still waiting for that magical day, when a valid-rsa-key-generated-by-a-human-on-a-pc pops
asciilifeform: mod6: yes, see thread
asciilifeform: mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-06#1810520 << thread ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( they are on ramdisk, and process is pretty snappy nao )
asciilifeform: eating the ~7mil keyz will take, i expect, about a day.
asciilifeform: aaaaand the jurov collection is going in nao!
diana_coman: ave1, any chance you tweak that script so I can at least test it in stages rather than 3-4 hour all-or-nothing thing? ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( it suffers from very serious problem where you gotta start the 3,4,... hour build from 0 errytimeitstops )
asciilifeform: to be very concrete, for all i know , his script ~works~ , i simply was not able to test from that point
diana_coman: hm, that last 20% ...
asciilifeform: diana_coman: about 80% in, i think. possibly would actually work if i permitted it
asciilifeform: diana_coman: his latest script barfs on account of expecting to load a turd from shithub
asciilifeform: in other noose, jurov's shithub sshkeys output is nearly finished converting; will start to feed it in within hr or so
mircea_popescu: hanbot, really loved the hats.
mircea_popescu: haha remember the hats ?
asciilifeform brain melted at the sunday market, tho not to the extent it did in timis
asciilifeform: BingoBoingostan appears to have ample supply of quality dairy tho.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there, even benjie/plate doesn't begin to cure
mircea_popescu: anyway, the above is a major point ben_vulpes is making. cooking at home is ~only way to get decent food in orclands w/o spending a benjie a plate sorta deal.
BingoBoingo: Ah, the friendship is only sorta spready. Had to spackle over it with Brie
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: That's actually the name on this Blue, "Queso Azul 'Friendship'"
ben_vulpes: betcha street shit is riddled with thiamin and friends