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mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, oh oh. for a moment i
thought big black man had as much dick as nero, went and fucked husband and wife for a wedding blessing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yes, but your mapping is incorrect. soviets had a lot of pre-existing fat
to burn down in 1920s lulzfest. usg arguably had same in
the 70s, when
they started with "rights for wife in divorce and woman in workplace" nonsense. it's been half a century,
there's nothing left
to eat in
the great empire of yore.
ben_vulpes: where you bomb a wedding and
then bomb it again when
the women and children rush back in screaming
to pull
their husbands and sons from
the carnage
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: believable political careers
take
time
to fabricate. schniederman mighta been a someone in some other context, but what's his replacement? another "first $minoritygroup
to NYAG"? even diehard leftists are not so bullish on firsts after
the first black man
to run
the show gleefully doubletapped weddings for his entire stay in
the whitehouse.
ben_vulpes: and lo, isn't it interesting
that as
the barrier for lordship goes up and
the bar for defrocking goes down,
the pantsuit imitate
to
their detriment while
the republic purges dross?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'm none
too interested in
the specifics; i'm more interested in/amused by
the long-predicted continually-lowering-bar-to-defrockment
tearing
the pantsuit organizations apart from
the
top.,
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, did
they ever sit down and write
the "manual of use" or is
their usage of "abuse" still just as spurious as it was when
they started whining about it ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose he's
the exact item
that drove lenin up
the wall and resulted in
the eventual rape of
the "kulak" : comfortable people will politely listen, perhaps, but why bother ?
mircea_popescu: hey, mr hui didn't do so well as an envoy
to kishinev either.
mircea_popescu: (for
the innocent : "don't put your hands or your dick in
the food". because
to people familiar with latin and its derivatives, "manipulacion de alimentos" sounds 100% like
the wrong approach
to handling food.)
mircea_popescu: but i didn't know more
than
they do in ~any and all fields as a wee
tyke in 92, now did i. in fact,
that's pretty much how i found out.
mircea_popescu: it's simple enough : no pula! and no mani! in
the alimentos!
mircea_popescu: i expect. i mean... i was walking
through
town yesterday, we went by a sign, girly is, "hey, would you like
to
take
their beautification class ? matricula abierta!" and i'm like... "bitch, i probably know more
than
they do." it's fucking
true. and
the next item was "manipulacion de alimentos".
there I DEFINITELY!!! know more
than
they do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, in 92 of interest were items like "hey, check it out, road w/o potholes" and "you can go
to shop in X field and
they'll either have or produce
through specified process any item in field" etcetera. what experience informed by 25 years' research identifies as intolerable food was
then merely weird. idiots i can smell from miles away now merely counted as very strange and bizarre people. and so on.
mircea_popescu: like if you
took all
the canadians, allowed
the smater 10%
to leave,
then plonked
them all down in haiti.
mircea_popescu: i visited in like... 92 i
think. and very much liked it ; something
that never recurred on subsequent visits. place's an unredeemed shithole.
mircea_popescu: have you ever even fucking seen british "real estate" ? it's like
the doghouse show!
mircea_popescu: hong kong is kramped, but at least
the food's mostly edible.
mircea_popescu: they got
the worst food, worst amenties, worst weather, worst service, most expensive ugly whores and really, every ingrown hair conceivable out of anywhere.
mircea_popescu: not many ~tourists~, but
to imagine anyone goes
to
the shithole of
the western hemisphere for
the ... what was it, for
the food ?
mircea_popescu: now i'm confused. england is
this shitty island with bad weather and very expensive cabs, you heard of it ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-08 16:56 asciilifeform: just how many
tourists drive
themselves with own hands, anyway
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, can't be
the null set,
there's a handcrafted gentoo for instance.
mircea_popescu: that
they're idiots enough
to buy of own volition (not out of own pocket, not like
they own or make money, anyway -- which is why all
the discussion re "taxes" is such lulz, what fucking
taxes lmao) has no bearing ; and
to propose
that it's "because" jobbs crusted diamonds
to one once and held it over his head is so much logicking with
the stones.
mircea_popescu: you know for a fact
that if people ~didn't~ buy cellphones,
they'd be forced down
their
throats via "employer '''bought''' and here it is, wear it".
mircea_popescu: so now back
to it : idle marketing gimmicks whereby
they crust diamonds
to a cellphone / put crowns on random selected poor from
the socialist horde etc, so as
to sell
the phones/electoral nonsense w/e
they're selling, "it's worth spending your
time waiting
tables in la, because
this one chick we picked gets 10mn a year and so couldn't you (unless of course we arbitrarily and entirely outside of your control pick you)." matte
mircea_popescu: to
trade 40% of
the world for 60% of a shitty island... "it profits a man nothing
to
trade his soul for
the whole world... but for walles ?!?!"
mircea_popescu: ie, having eu licenses admitted in
the island is worth about... 40% of
the value of
the eu license.
mircea_popescu: to which of course,
the brits will respond in kind, predictibly enough -- and here's
the capper :
the loss
to a group of 1mn for rejecting 1k who 1k
then reject
the 1mn back is... ~999k.
mircea_popescu: ha. no.
they decided
they're not going
to recognize uk-issued driving licenses on
the continent.
mircea_popescu: now
tell me, what is
the absolutely ~dumbest~
thing bruxells could have done ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, let me
tell you a lulzy story : so
the brexit, yes ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i don't permit socialist redefinitions of words universally,
this is not much discovery.
mircea_popescu: so
the sale is always a sham, and
the "corporate phone" necessarily
the underlying support should sales falter.
mircea_popescu: the limiting factor on human leather goods is
the "strong winds" of ye olde prophete ;
the driving force of hallucinatoria is mass acceptance, meaning
that
the individual item value is actually negative. a phone in
the factory costs... -5$. not even zero, below 0. whereas once in "consumer" hands, it's worth whatever, 75 bux.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
there's a reason veblen goods end up pricey whereas hallucination excreta ends up cheap.
mircea_popescu: the word "project" is not incidental, by
the way. hallucinatory world would be all about hallucinations.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-07 18:20 mircea_popescu: nda Gates Foundation. Was not a whole lot. Less
than a mil. I made a decent fortune from bitcoins for no reason. And
they are doing some really cool projects for humanity. Love
their work. I have been
to quite a few of Richard Stallman's
talks. But still not inspired enough
to care so much about OSS. I like it, but I also understand
the argument for not having OSS and making money off it. But you did a good
thing
there. so co
mircea_popescu: back when
the germans still existed as a people, plenty of demand for human skin couches.
mircea_popescu: the word printed on it is "toYOta", as in, "would you like
to be my friend ? we're both exactly just as empty of anything".
mircea_popescu: but see,
the word printed on it isn't "please! NOT MY DAUGHTER!" in
the blood of a double rape and murder victim.
mircea_popescu: networked items, such as phones, bank cheques, copyright certificates, college degrees etcetera are made of
the ~acceptance of all~, not of
the suffering of some.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it is very much not
true, no. veblen goods are as i said above, " made out of
the sufference of small children and
the
tears of young virgin widows". it is an item of denial.
mircea_popescu: (in fact,
the immense importance of
the phone, and
the cellphone, in cultural
terms, was exactly
this : showing skeptics such as yours
truly
that bottled hallucination doth sell on actual economic grounds.)
mircea_popescu: the phone is a sort of college degree, meaningless outside
the sturcture of meaning
that produced it.
mircea_popescu: trivial
to sell vertu phones : make a proper encrypted, nsa-proof network, only allow vertuphones
to connect. end of story.
mircea_popescu: i would not. speaking of actual items, ie watches, it's not
the case
that every existent demand can be economically exploited.
there's also uranium in
the ocean etc. speaking of phones,
they're not proper items,
they are, like say
the jet fighter, merely
the sign of something somewhere else.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 19:34 mircea_popescu: so :
the faberge egg,
the original, was made in 1885 ; but it was
the continuation and in a sense
the crowing of a current of
thought (ie, culture) and proper civilisation
that reached back over a centry.
mircea_popescu: this is like proposing
that "look where videogame sexualization ended up" in a discussion about modern sexuality. really, what pipe dreams
the pipe smokers dream is not a proper basis for argument.
mircea_popescu: ie,
the phenomenology of
the lost is a product of
the loss.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i propose
this has nothing
to do with anything.
mircea_popescu: if men can somehow convince
themselves women are "people, just like
them",
they certainly can convince
themselves watches are people just like
them.
mircea_popescu: but
this is also irrelevant : local brothel offers much better deal
than local wedding chappel in all
times and places.
mircea_popescu: and even if it stands
to unexamined imagination, "the $5 watch renders
the demand for $500`000 watches 0",
this is never
true. no demand ever reaches actual 0, for very good reasons
that have
to do with how negative numbers don't exist irl.
mircea_popescu: now,
the demand for "a watch made out of
the sufference of small children and
the
tears of young virgin widows" was never 0 ; and will never be 0, no matter what happens.
mircea_popescu: HOWEVER,
the collapse was of 500mn not of 1bn. it did reduce
the demand, but not wipe it out entirely.
mircea_popescu: gets a wristwatch)
the introduction of
the quartz movement resolved
the problem, pushing supply
to ~infinity bn and
therefore demand first
to 900mn and eventually
to maybe half bn. (i haven't worn a wristwatch in like 20 years, because why.)
mircea_popescu: depends in what market. i suspect
the "chilling effect" is far stronger
than
the actual effect. ie, in a market with demand for 1bn watches and supply for ~100mn (which was
the case cca 1940, ftr,
take say shadow of a doubt : bank clerk who can support wife and daughters in humongous mansion in desirable californa location (santa rosa) out of his bank clerk job is very proud, and his friends are very envious, when he finally