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mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811482 << should be interesting to see how all the computing, fabrication, rocketry, mining etc threads converge into actual geointerdicted republican-only zone. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: , it would've been a winner. but no, he had had to usg.gavin all over the place and draw dumb straight lines into infinity.
pete_dushenski: just finished reading "NYT #1" (aren't they all) book by yuval harari - homo deus - in which this ~historian~ goes on and on about ai taking ur jerbs, magick biotech pills that will turn us into supermen, and other technodystopianist nonsense. had dude shut up after first 2/3rds of the book and stuck with the history of human technological progress
mircea_popescu: anyway, even that cockpuppet keiser is back "opining" on prices and matters. because http://trilema.com/2013/in-which-noobs-learn-lessons-and-pay-for-the-privilege/ is 4 years ago so everyone magically forgot it.
pete_dushenski: lol he'll figure that out the day after he figures out that being "rich" means that you don't have to beg for jobs and "second chances"
mircea_popescu: but did he know you can put mac and cheese on a pizza and it'd taste assewome!
a111: Logged on 2016-10-04 14:19 mircea_popescu: and in other fucking nonsense, freenode has decided to redirect ALL inbound links to its most recent web page, to advertise to the world privateinternetaccess.com, ie the nsa front ; and their derpitude in support of "resurrecting tor". this of course includes all old manual pages and everything else.
pete_dushenski is still waiting for asciilifeform travelog of romania, and giveaway book list...
pete_dushenski: couldn't find this in the logs (so apologies if it's a repost) but holy shit is usg.btc scraping the bottom of the barrel if fatso karpeles is being resurrected as "cto" of privateinternetaccess (vpn) http://archive.is/XusOQ
mircea_popescu: speaking of pictures, hey asciilifeform ! where's your travelog!
pete_dushenski: what's africa got that south america doesn't, other than aids ?
BingoBoingo: Maybe by that point Africa? ☟︎
pete_dushenski: i could see all of #t in south america by that point too
pete_dushenski: heh. my goal is to beat them in every sport until they're bar mitzvah'd, by which point they'll be little men and i should be well and retire-ready.
BingoBoingo: Well, we will still be here when the kids are done raising you.
pete_dushenski: even though contravex doesn't pop up here anymore, i get a kick out of the fact that it's still mostly #t'ers and former #t'ers who comment there. i guess this place still is the ballsiest nook of the net no matter what.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-08 17:17 asciilifeform went to dig for pete_dushenski's veblenism-clocks article, found that he is ~still~ writing'em, e.g. http://www.contravex.com/2018/05/07/what-does-it-mean-to-tell-the-time-or-urwerks-opera
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-08#1811310 << were you digging for this one ? http://www.contravex.com/2017/10/29/unearthing-beauty-the-lower-rungs-of-the-art-patrons-ladder-and-a-newfound-appreciation-of-time/#footnote_5_19813 ☝︎
BingoBoingo uploads pictures from Today's adventure
BingoBoingo: Also think of all the confusion to result if the next BingoBoingo move ends up rolling Paraguay
a111: Logged on 2018-05-08 20:44 asciilifeform: what does BingoBoingo intend to do in the place without great fiber ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, re confession, the "I think it essential that I inform the investigation of a series of new facts concerning my moral-personal dissoluteness. I mean my longtime vice of homosexuality." part is, at the very least, truthful as far as anyone knows (and corroborated, histortically)
mircea_popescu: it's also the moment oxford fell off my map.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, "bologna system" because of the name of the cheap salami. seems perfectly adequate.
mircea_popescu: "scholarship" in english, on any topics whatsoever, is a thin calico indeed.
asciilifeform: and the Bolsheviks "look good" to most people.' etc
asciilifeform: 'Why do the anticommunist "scholars", both in Russia and the West, ignore all this evidence? Why do they continue to promote the false notions that no conspiracies existed and that Stalin, not Ezhov, decided to execute hundreds of thousands of innocent people? The only possible explanation is that they do this for ideological reasons alone. The truth, as established by an examination of the primary source evidence, would make Stalin
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/research/trials_ezhovshchina_update0710.html << notbad, and pretty much exactly the conclusion asciilifeform drew from the $sources , yrs ago
BingoBoingo: Having places to walk to is fine. Having bipedal pollution constantly interupting the journey there...
asciilifeform: funnily enuff, the thing i liked most about expedition to BingoBoingo , and miss the most today : having worthwhile places to walk to
ben_vulpes: protip: it's all of them
ben_vulpes: gotta see into the future, know which will stop and not be behind them
BingoBoingo: And to top it all off, as much as my walking speed has slowed today, THEY STILL WON'T STOP STOPPING ☟︎
asciilifeform pictures BingoBoingo being brought the year's new blocks, on cdrom, on camel
asciilifeform: ah if goat retirement, then sure
asciilifeform: what does BingoBoingo intend to do in the place without great fiber ? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: I was thinking more Chile or Mexico
asciilifeform admits that he would also muchly prefer desert; humid hell over here also
BingoBoingo: I'd really like the chance to try a desert next if I survive this place.
asciilifeform definitely had some 'how do they breathe here' episodes in BingoBoingostan.
BingoBoingo: And the air today has far too much humidity and not enough oxygen
BingoBoingo: The last longest wait was 45 minutes, AFTER the photo et al. To get the come back next week paper.
BingoBoingo: The operational aspect that burnedd an hour and a half was maliciously malcnstructed.
asciilifeform: i thought this was the expected output ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Went to the Department of Identity today. Stood in three seperate lines waiting to be called. The result was a piece of paper I have to bring back next week to actually get the cedula.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what have they done nao?
asciilifeform: keep in mind that there is not currently a simple knob to display ~solely~ those mods that will pop from this run.
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, jurov collection expected to be fully eaten in 3-4 hrs. mircea_popescu , trinque , if you feel like switching on phuctor-deedbot-ticker prior to the 7mil keys being crunched, lemme know. ( if not , also say, then i'ma run it without waiting ) ☟︎
BingoBoingo: I hate these people so very much
BingoBoingo: Still alive, weather today is humid with a side of SMOG!
asciilifeform: afaik , ~100% of the claimed 'how i organized failed coup' detail is , by itself, plausible.
asciilifeform: in re ezhov's confessions, i have no particular structure on which to hang the post-sov 'canonical' interpretation where they're 'scripted and 100% rubbish'
mircea_popescu: turns out the learned distrust and ample spite for "scientists", "researchers", "academics" and other indistinct products of the bologna system is strictly universal.
mircea_popescu: "I term these sources "semi-official" since they are quoted unproblematically by all the anticommunist scholars. These scholars ignore them almost completely, and ignore their implications completely, but they do not consider the documents false."
asciilifeform tries to read original, manually guesses encoding, and very 1st word is the canonical бНОПНЯ ..!
mircea_popescu: grover furr's page ( https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/ ) more universally interesting than just soviet early history, at that.
mircea_popescu: (apparently some guy collected and translated to english the litany of yehzov confessions.)
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding she has 100% of the cv bullet points that recommended HEROINE OF FEMINISM pantsuited hilarity for a run at the presidency.
asciilifeform: d00d died and left, literally, a coupla old shirts. but he wasn't 'in it for the living well', afaik simply enjoyed 'playing civ1'
mircea_popescu: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Valeria_Golubtsova << check out her wiki page, too!
mircea_popescu: in short -- stalin didn't have it so well, to the degree being purged is not directly nor obviously a worse fate.
mircea_popescu: anyway. would ~you~ want valy golubtsova's bf in the fucking room even ? fucktard was so stupid i have doubts he could even add on his own power.
asciilifeform: i'd expect it similarly shines across the board
mircea_popescu: and in today's dollop of hysterical lulz : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin manages to go through 10k words without even mentioning the nevzorov sisters, coincidentally the reason the fuckbuddy of some old imperial chick even got to be stalin's successor. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i can't figure how it'd be worth anyone's time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i tell you though, the sad situation where all that's left to gather around your piss-soaked body is beria, hruschev, malenkov etcetera...
mircea_popescu: ask god when your time comes, who they were. just as soon he's done with explaining turbulent flow he'll explain history to you, too.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, what's wrong with you not knowing who they were.
asciilifeform: can count them on fingers.
asciilifeform: the folx who 'let' , prolly existed, but we will not know who they were.
mircea_popescu: the idea is to not get purged by idiots, not to not get purged in general. zhukov thinks he can be a better stalin than stalin, what's stalin's objective incentive to get in the way ? fucking let him.
mircea_popescu: also, though, not being purged isn't the end all be all summum bonum.
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine zhukov purging him, but then again my imagination isn't the arbiter of history.
asciilifeform: i suspect that if had had been slightly smarter, along the axis contemplated here, he would prolly be remembered as just another purged d00d, along with tuhachevsky
mircea_popescu: the german -- didn't lack ; and in the upheaval, the political barriers to innovation turned out to be also weak. so they made.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, nah, see, the ~doctrine~ of tank-driven war was theoretically produced, as a necessary logical step, by russian staff, including a young zhukov. but the russian industry lacked the means to make the needed items.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, contention here is the structuring of activity as theoretically summarized, it's not driven by events but by the need to produce the structure trees needed by indefinitely scalalable summaries.
asciilifeform: [insert here tiger vs 34 thread]
mircea_popescu: this isn't some kind of argument in the line of "russki orcs" ; in point of fact tanks led strategies were invented by russians ; but copied and employed at first by zee germans.
mircea_popescu: now, the soviets did a bunch of butchering, indiscriminate and nonsensical, 1916-1926 or so ; but under italian intellectual pressure the germans realised and structured the effort, and then the soviets copied in a year or two.
asciilifeform: but i still dun grasp the argument . in su ~similar process went through its cycle in the '20s. and then -- germany.
asciilifeform: hmm i seem to recall the aron thread nao
asciilifeform: ( insert here the customary asciilifeform thread re 'microshit is philosophical continuation of edison' )
asciilifeform: iirc edison's sucked, it had a dissolving tab that had to be swapped
mircea_popescu: well not the edison one ; the one used nowadays.
asciilifeform: meter existed in edison's time
mircea_popescu: guys came up with the electricity meter iirc.
asciilifeform: ( with the correct gesticulation, even )
mircea_popescu: anyway, dramatized in "cabaret" (the thing with liza minelli in it, with the "tomorrow belongs to me" hurr)
mircea_popescu: i r disagree. take the history of say... eh what the fuck is zee jewish german family with the radios ? i'm sure i put it in the logs, albert or albrecht or something
asciilifeform: unless we're thinking of different things
asciilifeform: by '34 su had already cranked through 2-3 turns of the cycle
mircea_popescu: not much after. but the methodology is strictly fascist.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, no, if you look at the history, the soviets were doing it ~after~ zee germans.
mircea_popescu: that's why nyt jewry is so eager to "fight with russia", has no mention of china whatsoever. they figure that's what china'd like to see.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: copied how, with time machine ?
mircea_popescu: it's a "i wonder which of these idle fucks would our overlords think is a best incarnation of their batshit notion of aryan".
mircea_popescu: so no, it's very much not "first, we behead the owner, keep the young aspirant manager director / fucker of owner's daughter against owner's will ; THEN we behead him, once we've trained a working class successor ; THEN we behead successor, put in politruk" cycle of nazi (and then COPIED, lifted wholesale by soviets, like everything else).
mircea_popescu: there aren't any scraps, the whole thing is under glass and someone drops glucose.
mircea_popescu: all that remains is the "not rock boat" struggle so as china continues to drop the pellet in the beautiful ones' cage.