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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform when i was a kid in middle school, there was this red headed 14 yo that "everyone knew" was A TOTAL WHORE.
asciilifeform: just as i, employed as another type of whore, have to do things i otherwise would not even want to know ~exist~
mircea_popescu: aha. I REALLY MISS BAD CATERED LUNCHES FROM WORK
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asciilifeform: and other items i'm more familiar with
shinohai: thx as well BingoBoingo I never miss an opportunity to lol at ETH
asciilifeform: i'd take that as a gold standard.
asciilifeform: (not a single old-timer i ever linked to the logz, ever came...)
mircea_popescu: i would think logs best. do you think they're defective in some way ?
asciilifeform: then i can write to some folks.
asciilifeform: that i can link to?
a111: Logged on 2016-04-12 13:19 mircea_popescu: incidentally : anyone on friendly terms with cs depts at unis / cs profs, plox get in touch, i have a little scheme i could use your halp with. ty!
mircea_popescu: basically i suspect we accidentally collided (via eulora, no less!) with a group of well meaning fellows that are argentinia-level managed and perhaps there's a joining available. we see.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you recall pretty much you ever said about the turd, i never contested.
asciilifeform: pretty much everything i ever said re the turd, is demonstrated true.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-08 20:36 mircea_popescu: davout i have nfi what you did here. for one thing, shareholders don't get 86, they get 86 + 1% of resolveed bets - 13.37
mircea_popescu: i let you know already! http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1449011 and http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1449050 and in general, if you're taking the weekend off or not you still have to read the log. at the absolute very least your own highlights ffs. ☝︎☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: punkman: ancient news, there is one in the museum where i live
mircea_popescu: mats> $20, even $10, i get it, but $12? << market forces. prolly the price of a suficient number of hot pocketz or w/e.
mircea_popescu: trinque> I've yet to be convinced that the database isn't a thing << hey, i've been following your crusade from the foxhole, i dun see that it lost as of yet.
trinque: the bitbet auction pointed at the same problem, which looks more v-tronic the more I think about it
ben_vulpes: notrly, it haunts me as i go to sleep
ben_vulpes: (a far cry from 'poc or gtfo', i know)
ben_vulpes: i have a pgbomination wired into trb somewhere in my working tree.
deedbot: $20, even $10, i get it, but $12? is not a command.
mats: $20, even $10, i get it, but $12?
trinque: doing the fundamentally right thing here, I think, involves the act of rating being that you make a deed of a signed statement which is your rating.
trinque: I am entirely willing to do a shitty thing that doesn't kill me while I am waiting for something else.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-13 03:54 trinque: mike_c: anyhow, until asciilifeform writes me a CLOS persistence layer with ACID, a declarative permissions model, and networking, gpg me the IP you'd be coming from and I'll open that in the firewall then shoot you a psql user/pass
trinque: mike_c: anyhow, until asciilifeform writes me a CLOS persistence layer with ACID, a declarative permissions model, and networking, gpg me the IP you'd be coming from and I'll open that in the firewall then shoot you a psql user/pass ☟︎
trinque: there are obvious problems that fall out of many programs diddling the same data concurrently, or users of different levels of access interacting with the same data model, or what happens when I didn't write all the damn data successfully, or... or...
trinque: I've yet to be convinced that the database isn't a thing.
asciilifeform: this smacks of the proverbial 'for 20k, i drill my OWN holez!'
trinque: wot seems to solve that, and is exactly the reason I'm willing to open the db to mike_c
mircea_popescu: i still suspect there's a good reason this doesn't work tho.
mircea_popescu: i'd sure as fuck trade in html soup in exchange for sql.
trinque: I had an old boss who thought the web ought to be composed of interlinked databases rather than "websites", certainly not the only man to say this
mircea_popescu: i mean, make him a user, give it select priviledges, done.
mircea_popescu: hm. i wonder why this isn't more often done then ?
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2016/04/fbi-investigates-soup-can-heist/ << ok i lollered :D
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/dragons-tale-a-bitcoin-linux-mmorpg/ << checkj out what i dug up
mod6: mircea_popescu: ok i made you a thing
mircea_popescu: im not so sure how far i trust his self-evals, but anyway
asciilifeform: i dun get this, a healthy bloke reloads in 10, 20 (if he shoveled dirt all day) min.
mircea_popescu: phf i know from experience pretty much EVERY escort, even those who charge 1-2-5k to corporate accounts, actually work for 1-200 ish.
phf: i personally know girls that charge the entire range from about 200 to 1500, they list on high end escort services, because they can pull it off, but they also list on various adultfinder variations, because that's a quick buck. i don't know what's the lowest they went for, i should ask, but this definitely doesn't work like "market forces"
mircea_popescu: all i ever seen were whores queuing
asciilifeform: i did not say 'sucks because high mileage'
asciilifeform: is mircea_popescu telling me that 'expensive whore' is 'veblen good' ? (if he is, i will believe him, i know ~as much re whoring as about deep ocean currents)
mircea_popescu: i do not think whoring is extempt from market mechanisms. i KNOW that what you misrepresent as "market mechanisms" is pure usg ideology and has not ever SEEN a market.
asciilifeform: i am somewhat floored that mircea_popescu appears to think whoring to be exempt from ordinary market mechanisms!
mod6: actually, i'd bet there are folks, even here, that would do small spec'd out work for .50000000
mircea_popescu: fine, i'll buy you a steak.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i said 200, specifically not 0
mod6: i guess i can see how a high-class georgetown hooker might charge like 1k per night or someshit, but you can just drive down to baltimore and get laid 3x for 60, and keep the change for the crack.
asciilifeform: so mircea_popescu proposes that i cannot infer anything interesting from the fact that chick fucks for 20bux ?
mod6: yeah, i know a walmart where you can $12 bjs behind the store
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no i meant anonymous you-can-be-anybody-so-long-as-you-got-dough sort of thing
mod6: i couldn't do it
mod6: i always thought the airbnb thing was so weird.
ben_vulpes: very much yes i would rather stay with some kindly grandmother i've never met than the roach motel up the street.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: thinks i don't know how poorly this place is set up, haw
mircea_popescu: meanwhile i want gradients like i want the "clever" ustard namespace. o woe what the fuck will i do without "laundromat" and "chuck e cheese" !!1
mircea_popescu: i've been waiting for the idiocy to blow over ever since and it just fucking won't
mircea_popescu: it's like every [unemployable shithead] got all excited about "omaigerd - i know how i'll justify not doing any it work - GRADIENTS !! AWESOME!!!" in like 2002
a111: Logged on 2016-04-12 23:07 phf: fwiw gtk has been compromising x for year, that's where "remote x is useless" misconception comes from. you can run x emacs on a dialup even (i was doing it on dsl in the early 2000s), but of course running any kind of gtk app fails miserably, because library pushes gratuitous (and unoptimizable by simple RLE) gradients across wire just to render a button.
asciilifeform: if i only ever drove to places where i actually ~wanted~ to be, i might not hate it.
asciilifeform: mats: but i can't really separate the reason for hating it from my hatred of working.
asciilifeform: i very much do.
mats: i thought you hate driving?
mats: i don't look forward to the prospect of marriage
asciilifeform: but what i was pointing out was that building unmodified (sourcewise) linux proggies to run on shitblowz was baked long, long ago
mats: if it weren't for uber i'd own a vehicle that sits unpowered 95% of the time
phf: this is evil, evil incarnate, i tell ya
asciilifeform: <ben_vulpes> which by the way i use regularly to great effect << aha, recall, i even used 'uber'
mircea_popescu: i need moar datapoints.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-12 15:14 asciilifeform: i do not rightfully apprehend mircea_popescu's observation here
mircea_popescu: mats> what i remember from the BUILD keynote about this is there's an ELF loader and translate syscalls << then alf wants to know what i mean about http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-12#1450492 ☝︎
asciilifeform: phf: i beg to differ- i had not only x11 built under cygwin long ago (at usg gig!) but ratpoison, firefox, 1,001 unmodified linux proggies
ben_vulpes: which by the way i use regularly to great effect
mats: i don't understand what kind of strategic advantage they see in this
phf: asciilifeform: i don't think cygwin translates syscalls, it was more of half-baked mingw
mats: what i remember from the BUILD keynote about this is there's an ELF loader and translate syscalls
mats: i don't think so
phf: mats: i think they are going the linux-in-userspace route
ben_vulpes: yes in progress that's why i bring it up
mats: i'm curious what is going to happen with the syscalls that don't map cleanly
asciilifeform: i routinely use, e.g., ida pro under 'wine' over x11 over tcp.
phf: fwiw gtk has been compromising x for year, that's where "remote x is useless" misconception comes from. you can run x emacs on a dialup even (i was doing it on dsl in the early 2000s), but of course running any kind of gtk app fails miserably, because library pushes gratuitous (and unoptimizable by simple RLE) gradients across wire just to render a button. ☟︎
phf: freedesktop strategy is to create an abstraction layer on top of base tools that makes things "simpler", and then transparently switch the base. in this case value of gtk & sdl to wreckers is that they both operate on wayland already. sdl seems somewhat sane but i wouldn't be surprised if gnome deprecates their X support at some point ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-12 22:36 phf: speaking of walls and x11, i walked into a comment section of some "game ported to linux" post. guy opted for native xlib/opengl, so he got a wall full of "x11 is deprecated, everyone's moving to wayland, use sdl2". ironically in the post itself he says " when searching for answers to questions that weren’t made quite clear in the documentation, often people that had the same questions I did received answers like ‘Use SDL’, or ‘Use GTK
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You had that point before I did.
shinohai: Only reasonable way I know to acquire shares/Bitcoins to hoard. Unless go back to reddit and suck ass for changetip.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: It's the only way to learn. I discovered that when I took mircea_popescu's advice and started writing crap.
mircea_popescu: this derpage, i swear.
phf: speaking of walls and x11, i walked into a comment section of some "game ported to linux" post. guy opted for native xlib/opengl, so he got a wall full of "x11 is deprecated, everyone's moving to wayland, use sdl2". ironically in the post itself he says " when searching for answers to questions that weren’t made quite clear in the documentation, often people that had the same questions I did received answers like ‘Use SDL’, or ‘Use GTK ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i liked that particular WAL
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> I didn't figure out an angle for it, therefore left it to simmer on back burner. << maybe start writing, see if an angle emerges?
asciilifeform: and it appears that i could not push arbitrary moving pictures through it, or use 'ratpoison'
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/I6EUXwo.jpg <<< looking for pron, find Stalin on the subway instead.