asciilifeform: achtung, whoever it was who was voice-calling asciilifeform's torture room from ru : i do not pick these up, plox to use civilized means of contact.☟︎
asciilifeform back from short meat holiday, slowly catching up on things
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it did, i even got 'portal' to run at one pt
asciilifeform: i dun expect the latter have any bidirectional connection to the former, any moar than the rats which eat mircea_popescu's leftovers in dumpster, have any effect on mircea_popescu's kitchen per se
asciilifeform: for all i know, the actual elites still play poker just like in 19th c, in closed room. while in vegas the 'aspirational' morons 'us, too'
asciilifeform: but then somehow went away, leaving the straight 'dice ops'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu iirc had a piece re why poker , how it was a social circle thing for the rich, and then not. so, unsurprise, coin machines
asciilifeform: elementarily moar poor idjits interested in the basic proposition than non-idjits
asciilifeform: of all the things that decayed from 'expensive to run' to 'casual monkey drops coin in slot', imho gambling is the least surprising
asciilifeform: there's a reason these figure prominently in spamola of erry type, tho, hard to picture anyone with two working neurons playing
asciilifeform: evidently 'satoshi dice' dead, but the 9000 clones -- notyet
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is moar 'life cycle of fruit fly' than 'ancient stones' imho
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu had piece where he got hold of a lolpad or the like, installed buncha '2 chinese d00dz on a napkin'-type gamez, and 6mo later all 'eggog, cannot connect to serv' etc
asciilifeform: barrett is admittedly slightly tricky to 'load into head', but it's where we beat the living shit out of koch et al speedwise (for some reason they never bothered to bake a barrett, even tho method was known since '86
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman . happy to hear that it was edible ( iirc yours is the 1st report. )
asciilifeform: it needs veehehery small current, on the order of a coupla microamps
asciilifeform: ( the 1 annoying aspect of lysotronic fg as currently drawn, is that it gets the +45v bias voltage for the detector, from batteries, as asciilifeform does not know of a 'rng safe' method to generate it from +5 without oscillators )
asciilifeform: ( and, readers will recall, it eats strictly on-demand, when '?' operator invoked, and uses no threads or any bufferism beyond 'fill this here fz from /dev/wherever' .
asciilifeform: ... at any rate, 'peh' will continue to use the single-fg eater (as depicted in ch8, it hasn't changed) unless someone shows very good reason why it ought to be made moar complex and eat >1.
asciilifeform: ( i test mine when plugged in from shelf , can't speak for other folx )
asciilifeform: lol not simply 'factory test', but erry other test.
asciilifeform: primary win imho from a hypothetical 'fast fg' isn't even any of this, but that it is faster to test
asciilifeform: lyso-fg is about 20bux moar unit cost than classical. but i dun have the free hands atm.
asciilifeform: for systems like mircea_popescu's eulora rsa tho, possibly one'd want >7.5kB/s , but possibly also suffices.
asciilifeform: for pgp-style rsaism, imho entirely plenty.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in retrospect, prolly we oughta have made'em daisy-chainable. w/out bufferism it is somewhat tricky to use multiple fg to get fatter stream.
asciilifeform: imho the correct answ. is obv. if one thinks about it.
asciilifeform: ( btw mircea_popescu in old thread correctly intuited that you Do Not Want to buffer an fg, but i dun think either of us ever wrote explicitly why )
asciilifeform: given that asciilifeform does not buffer fg ( exercise for reader: why not? ) these waits do not happen in parallel with the computation, and by all rights ought to expect that a live-fg test (not yet performed) can be expected to take longer by the above interval, vs. the bottled-entropy test pictured in yest. thrd.
asciilifeform: given room temp fg @ 7.5 kByte/s , this is ~119 and ~105 sec. of fg , respectively, in avg case
asciilifeform: meanwhile, thinking moar re this item : the two tests make roughly comparable demand on rng: 3582 * (2048 / 8) byte == 916992 bytes (single 2048 gcd) ; 3155 * (2048 / 8) == 807680 byte ;☝︎
asciilifeform: or whatever else horsepower-heavy chore
asciilifeform: fwiw asciilifeform's 'i'ma build gamez box!11' adventure from 2y ago, ended very similarly to mircea_popescu's : that box is cold nao an' waiting for when asciilifeform next time needs to route a pcb
asciilifeform: in re: those browser gamez -- the 1080 is 'shooting fly with cannon' for these, they'd happily run on e.g. rk (or prolly even 486..)
asciilifeform: 'portal' wasn't quite 'shooter' in usual sense
asciilifeform: both decade+ vintage , i think, by nao.
asciilifeform: afaik they had 2 playable gamez, 'halflife' and 'portal'.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's brother once had occasion to go there, and confirmed, it is there, and even oiled, turns..
asciilifeform: incidentally, re 'valve co.', and also elliotisms, didjaknow -- it appears to have been named for... an actual valve. as in, 1 of those nyc-style steam main valves, as big as a desk, it is ceremonially mounted in their house...
asciilifeform: 'MERCENARIES TO KILL' << english-as-she-is-spoken(tm)(r) lel
asciilifeform doesn't have quite all of mircea_popescu's www in l0 braincache; it's pretty heavy
asciilifeform: 1 moar hypothesis : on boxes where very slow rng (e.g. fg unavailable ) or where heavily milked fg, generating e.g. ephemeral rsa privs with high frequency, economy may be much greater, as fewer doomed m-r shots means fewer '?' invocations for their witnesses gen.
asciilifeform: from either 632 / 535, subtract the 32 that the 'winner' consumes, to get # of m-r performed on eventually-rejected candidates.
asciilifeform: ftr almost all of that 1MB of bottled entropy, actually gets eaten in both runs (it is used not only to get candidates , recall, but to generate m-r witness for ea. shot of m-r )
