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benkay: a contract covering work for pay is an interesting beast. should it include an address for payment so that when published in the event of breach anyone can verify that payment was not made?
benkay: this is a purely theoretical question.
mircea_popescu: up to the parties.
mircea_popescu: it's a field in which a lot of experimental work still has to be poured before we really know
benkay: and jurov how dare you intimate that anyone sent me any btc?! i live in the states! they'd put me in the gasenwagen!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0220031 = 0.22 BTC [-]
benkay: i disavow receipt of any btc.
danielpbarron: i include the address in the signed contract for exactly that reason
benkay: hey princess.
benkay: !up hecate
benkay: handles are getting creative.
benkay: are there any -assets blessed crypto-only exchanges?
benkay: !up princessnell
princessnell: ty
mircea_popescu: !up hecate
princessnell: have u seen this gem? http://pastebin.com/Zt7fBtRp
assbot: Open letter to federal scum - Pastebin.com
benkay: d'oh
mircea_popescu: princessnell yes.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck does that mean, another 30 minutes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0220031 = 0.22 BTC [-]
benkay: princessnell: is that real life?
princessnell: benkay 'if you see it in MOTHERBOARD, it's so'
artifexd: I could really use some advice. I find myself in a position that I, honestly, never expected.
artifexd: The company for which I work is being bought.
artifexd: It is a small company. Less than 20 people.
artifexd: Any thoughts or advice for me? Is there any extra information I can provide that would help get better advice?
mircea_popescu: off twitter : Her: “Will you try a veggie burger for lunch?” Me: “Sure, if the bun's made out of steak.”
mircea_popescu: artifexd you could help a lot by explaining what exactly are you trying to get advice for
dignork: artifexd: M&A is fun, if you are bought by a bigger company, try to inflate your position now, might get moar money
mircea_popescu: sleeping with the acquirer's wife ? keeping your red stapler ? how to cook a veggie burger with a steak bun ?
artifexd: That's the thing. I don't know what advice I need.
mircea_popescu: well are you trying to solve any particular problem ?
mircea_popescu: do you have any sort of goal ?
mircea_popescu: help us out here lol
artifexd: Goal.... thinking...
artifexd: Goal number 1: As much money in a lump payment as possible.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: I wanna know how to cook a veggie burger with a steak bun, sounds tasty.
artifexd: Goal number 2: Maintain the autonomy that I have enjoyed for the last few years.
artifexd: Goal number 3: A raise.
artifexd: I figure the lump sum payment I get from stock options is already set, right?
dignork: artifexd: stock options, check taxing, you might want to hold them off
artifexd: How? Until when?
artifexd: It isn't an amount that will make me independently wealthy, but it will greatly improve my current situation.
dignork: artifexd: i'm not a real accountant :), but you should consult one, move to IRA maybe, dunno.
artifexd: "Inflate my position" What does that mean? The company is small enough that everyone knows my contributions.
dignork: for a larger company, your previous "rank" might change your salary, so in your interests to achieve highest rank possible
dignork: it's a game though, if you are too high-ranked, they might fire you, due to position duplicity
dignork: so don't be a CFO for example
artifexd: If it makes a difference, I'm a programmer/coder/developer. My official (self-appointed) title is "Deviser and Artifex".
mircea_popescu: artifexd listen, you need to hire a tax attorney at this point.
mircea_popescu: there's no way you can get pertinent advice without the details.
artifexd: That *is* good advice.
mircea_popescu: blow a few grand on hiring someone, it';s the right time to do it.
mircea_popescu: you'll discover, even if you overpay today, you'll discover in time you wouldn't have undone it.
artifexd: Correction: That *is* pertinent advice.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.0042 = 1.26 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: and other than that, have an open and relaxed negotiation strategy. tell the acquirer's expert that you aren't interested in anything but a position with the authonomy you enjoyed previously, and they can let you know.
artifexd: Any recommendations for what to ask them? I mean, what are things that are in question when one company acquires another? For example, it didn't even occur to me that my salary would change, as mentioned by dignork
mike_c: is the sale a good thing or is it because the company is struggling?
artifexd: A good thing.
dignork: artifexd: some larger company have lame rules defining allowed salalry limits per rank, hope your case would be different
dignork: company=companies
artifexd: It has long been the stated goal of our ceo to get bought.
artifexd: "Long" meaning "since I came onboard"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wtf, how do you 'patch secret bug' in open source product ?!
benkay: %b
benkay: %t
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 187 Ask: 277 Last Price: 278 24h-Vol: 128k High: 280 Low: 159 VWAP: 188
asciilifeform: what did they have to smoke for this to make sense?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nm that.
mircea_popescu: official core devs !!1
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: ssd - if there were a hardware raid that worked well with ssd of some description (or, for that matter, vice-versa) i would buy it. on account of hating spindle noise.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno what your noise issue is man, i used to live with the large ventilated felix
mircea_popescu: sort-of like a large mining rig, except more useless.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 203 @ 0.00420001 = 0.8526 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: why not simply connect the extant ones? basic problem is that ssd units from same batch tend to die in unison, when used in just about any variant of raid (why - exercise for reader)
mircea_popescu: this is why you don't use same-manuf for ssds
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: live with the large ventilated felix << http://www.nzeldes.com/HOC/IronFelix.htm ???!
assbot: "Iron Felix" meets the Odhner calculator
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no lol, this closet sized pdp-clone wannabe
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47925 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: apparently it doesn't even exist on the internet it was so sikrit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.095 = 0.57 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://isabellelorelai.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/1cifa1.jpg
mircea_popescu: there you go
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol! who even knows how many soviet pdp.
mircea_popescu: this was actually homebrew, originally made by the atomic physics folks at magurele
mircea_popescu: eventually it just became a toy for students to play with
mircea_popescu: but anyway. loud. who cares!
asciilifeform: how'd you end up sleeping on (in? with?) it ?
mircea_popescu: cause it was in the physics lab and i was sleepy
asciilifeform: aha
mircea_popescu: they had this huge round air vent thing, kinda comfortable to sit in
penguirker: New blog post: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/05/20_this-is-why-distributed-exchanges-are-doomed-to-failure.html
assbot: this is why distributed exchanges are doomed to failure
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, decay experiments, i dunno if you know, are - or were ? - this particular brand of evil.
mircea_popescu: "well, by midnight we should have about twelve ticks or so"
mircea_popescu: time's 11:30 and the thing ticked once...
mircea_popescu: come to think about it, quite exactly like mining.
asciilifeform: lol yes. i did much the same thing, in a vastly different context (scintillation counter, bio. assay)
asciilifeform: re: fans/spindles: i know folks of two opposing schools of thought re: comp noise. variant 1 - powerful machine, must sing, like 'harley davidson'; variant 2 - want quiet, like german bmw, not air-cooled 'trabant'
mircea_popescu: ya i guess im more like 1
asciilifeform: (i'm with '2')
mircea_popescu: heretic
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you'd really love my Symbolics 3620 then.
mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Măgurele << romania's version of cheliabinks
assbot: Mgurele - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
asciilifeform: unambiguous 'harley'
asciilifeform: (for those innocent: http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/22982/Symbolics-3620 )
assbot: Symbolics 3620 - Computing History
mircea_popescu: pity it never caught on
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is actually an interesting historical topic. these people never wanted to 'catch on' in the modern sense
asciilifeform: they made 'ferraris', so to speak
asciilifeform: then the only folks who could afford them - went broke.
mircea_popescu: i suspect the problem had a lot more to do with them being plagued by bob becks than anything intentional.
asciilifeform: (reagan's 'star wars' and the associated pig trough)
asciilifeform: there's a paper floating about for many years, arguing that SMBX died of gross mismanagement
mircea_popescu: sounds credible to me.
asciilifeform: and here's weinreb (recently deceased. one of the founders) on death of same.
asciilifeform: http://danweinreb.org/blog/why-did-symbolics-fail
assbot: Why Did Symbolics Fail? | Software and Innovation
mircea_popescu: weinreb's passing actually makes me think about the following
mircea_popescu: suppose the year is 2215.
asciilifeform: i used to be a quasi-serious student of the subject of 'why smbx dead' - until i realized that i'm getting nowhere, everyone i want to talk to is buried.
mircea_popescu: willy-nilly the various blogs left by various people important in 2015, if still extant,
mircea_popescu: have gone through a long list of conservatorships and whatnot
mircea_popescu: this isn't something we're really too apt to handle, the material published on their own blogs by meanwhile long dead people
mircea_popescu: i wonder how will it work out
asciilifeform: naggum's material comes to mind as one example
asciilifeform: (no real organization, but encyclopaedic completeness at least)
mircea_popescu: right. the time's advanced enough for this problem to start showing at the edges
mircea_popescu: in a way it didn't in say 1994.
mircea_popescu: soon it'll become quite massive.
mircea_popescu: i mean even the notion of a blog is maybe 20 years old tops. that's within reasonable lifespan.
mircea_popescu: but approaching the cusp
asciilifeform: the problem is made somewhat more dire by the fact that the folks traditionally interested in the subject ('library sciences' types) - as i understand - didn't make the jump to electronics really
mircea_popescu: nor do they have any sort of a clue as to how and why and what and so on
mircea_popescu: we're perhaps approaching a strange "collapse of the roman empire" situation from an entirely different angle
asciilifeform: ted nelson (for all his faults) predicted this very same thing, in the 1960s
mircea_popescu: "At the MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab, fifteen researchers shared a computer with a .001 GHz CPU and .002 GB of main memory."
mircea_popescu: gotta love the guy's style.
mircea_popescu: "We had great success amongst primary customers. I think we could have found a lot more of them if our marketing had been better. For example, did you know that Symbolics had a world-class software development environment for Fortran, C, Ada, and other popular languages, with amazing semantics-understanding in the editor, a powerful debugger, the ability for the languages to call each other, and so on? We put a lot of
mircea_popescu: work into those, but they were never publicized or advertised."
mircea_popescu: ok, i win. bob beck sunk symbolix.
asciilifeform: wtf is a bob beck
asciilifeform: bob the goatfucker ?
mircea_popescu: " We at Symbolics were slow to acknowledge this. We believed our own “dogma” even as it became less true. It was embedded in our corporate culture. If you disputed it, your co-workers felt that you “just didn’t get it” and weren’t a member of the clan, so to speak. This stifled objective analysis. (This is a very easy problem to fall into — don’t let it happen to you!)"
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/the-public-burning-of-bob-beck/
assbot: The public burning of Bob Beck pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
asciilifeform: aha!
asciilifeform: re: weibreb's style...
asciilifeform dusts off his copy of the Chinanual
asciilifeform: http://imagizer.imageshack.us/scaled/landing/875/ayjgar.jpg
mircea_popescu: Also, a lot of Symbolics sales were based on the promise of rule-based expert systems, of which the early examples were written in Lisp. Rule-based expert systems are a fine thing, and are widely used today (but often not in Lisp). But they were tremendously over-hyped by certain academics and by their industry, resulting in a huge backlash around 1988. “Artificial Intelligence” fell out of favor; the “AI Winter
mircea_popescu: ” had arrived. << yeah.
asciilifeform: (aka 'chinual')
mircea_popescu: they mismanaged pretty much every aspect of market dominance.
mircea_popescu: one should make a jobs vs noftsker case study
asciilifeform: titanically great product (to the point that, imho, it has never been equalled) but they rode a very particular wave of bezzola, ended up going down with it.
mircea_popescu: course... i seem to also remember some massive rms drama
asciilifeform: mostly in head of rms
mircea_popescu: isn;t it all ?
asciilifeform: http://danweinreb.org/blog/rebuttal-to-stallmans-story-about-the-formation-of-symbolics-and-lmi
assbot: Rebuttal to Stallmans Story About The Formation of Symbolics and LMI | Software and Innovation
mircea_popescu: "Meanwhile, back at Symbolics, there were huge internal management conflicts, leading to the resignation of much of top management, who were replaced by the board of directors with new CEO’s who did not do a good job" i dunno..
mircea_popescu: "Symbolics signed long-term leases on big new offices and a new factory, anticipating growth that did not come, and were unable to sublease the properties due to office-space gluts, which drained a great deal of money."
mircea_popescu: the only missing ingredient so far heh.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0041 = 0.41 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "or example, remember that the first viable Windows O/S, release 3.1, came out in in 1990"
mircea_popescu: wait, 3.1 was viable ?!
mircea_popescu: in what sense of viability lol
asciilifeform: viable in the butugychag sense. you can live there for a bit...
asciilifeform: with external prodding.
asciilifeform: so, can live, with steady supply of inmates
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: "And while I’m setting the record straight, the original (TECO-based) Emacs was created and designed by Guy L. Steele Jr. and David Moon. After they had it working, and it had become established as the standard text editor at the AI lab, Stallman took over its maintenance."
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
mircea_popescu: so THIS is the actual root of the emacs wars ?
asciilifeform: this is a fairly well-known fact (i thought)
mircea_popescu: well not by me
[]bot: Bet created: Cardano to Ship in 2014 (http://bitbet.us/bet/859/) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (granted, my interest in this sort of minutia is faint)
mircea_popescu: o look at that asciilifeform... not a whole lot of confidence.
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the bob beck thing is epic
asciilifeform: where do they even get them.
mircea_popescu: quite
mircea_popescu: i'll tell you :
mircea_popescu: there's these things people like doing, like say rubbing their scrotum. and then there's these other things people don't like doing, like cooking and cleanning.
mircea_popescu: clearly thus therefore cooking and cleanning is stupid, and definitely not something one should learn or study or do well
mircea_popescu: because nobody ever has to put effort where they already suck, because they don't suck, it's just the problem that's unworthy of attention.
mircea_popescu: and so they end up with the stupidest contributor doing the most important parts : interfacing with the world.
mircea_popescu: it is very easy to interface with a computer : it's pinned down in place, mechanical and stupider than you.
mircea_popescu: it is insanely difficult to interface with the world, mostly because the world is principally made out of people smarter than you will ever be.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'любишь кататься люби и саночки возить' (proverb. 'like sledding? like pulling sled then, too.'
mircea_popescu: and so... bob beck.
moiety: I'm turning in, night everyone :]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.095 = 0.285 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "The Economist @TheEconomist · 2h The far-right may triumph in the EU parliament elections but they won't achieve much there"
mircea_popescu: dude im so fucking sick of the left spin
mircea_popescu: how about the right accomplishes firing your wife, dear economist, from her "womens studies" uni position ?
mircea_popescu: !up RepentOrPerish
F40PH: yo
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Cardano to Ship in 2014 (http://bitbet.us/bet/859/)". Odds: 98(Y):2(N) by coin, 98(Y):2(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,989.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.46500005 = 0.93 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 45 @ 0.0220031 = 0.9901 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 60 @ 0.03214332 = 1.9286 BTC [-] {11}
F40PH: !ops
F40PH: no ops function?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 42 @ 0.03300804 = 1.3863 BTC [+] {5}
F40PH: nooooooooooooooo waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Apocalyptic: !down F40PH
thestringpuller: ident first
Azelphur: !down F40PH
Azelphur: I helped
Apocalyptic: thx Azelphur
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 493.79, Best ask: 494.58, Bid-ask spread: 0.79000, Last trade: 494.58, 24 hour volume: 29696.05623876, 24 hour low: 447.63, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 476.724107341
[]bot: Bet placed: 50 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment (http://bitbet.us/bet/786/)". Odds: 86(Y):14(N) by coin, 87(Y):13(N) by weight. Total bet: 1307.03879007 BTC. Current weight: 80,465.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1020 @ 0.0041 = 4.182 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/468941331696734208
assbot: New study: Hiring managers do not value Liberal Arts degree, said "no degree" would be better: http://t.co/5oWByf23ey (yikes?)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.47923092 = 2.3962 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.03949161 = 0.2369 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 494.67, Best ask: 496.5, Bid-ask spread: 1.83000, Last trade: 496.5, 24 hour volume: 29266.10215098, 24 hour low: 451.01, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 476.739040274
artifexd: Idea for a bet: Total bet on 786 to exceed 2500BTC
mircea_popescu: too easy to manipulate tho
mircea_popescu: for that matter, 2.5k is certain
mircea_popescu: 25k moar like a good bar
artifexd: Sure. If you have that kind of cheddar to throw around, sure.
artifexd: Seriously?
mircea_popescu: there's 12mn bitcoins mined./
artifexd: That would make for a nice S.BBET dividend.
mircea_popescu: yes seriously. look at say http://bitbet.us/bet/619/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-2b-before-feb/
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty at or above 2B before Feb 2014 :: 1750.25 B (93%) on Yes, 136.67 B (7%) on No | closed 3 months 3 weeks ago
mircea_popescu: most volume was in january, not in november.
mircea_popescu: i'd guess the berkshire bet will have reached half its total bet sum sometime this autumn
benkay: o hey bra
benkay: boo. finger macro fail.
thestringpuller: benkay: is a benkay
thestringpuller: cascade
thestringpuller: i feel like that's an anagram that is going over my head
benkay: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 492.02, Best ask: 493.62, Bid-ask spread: 1.60000, Last trade: 494.0, 24 hour volume: 26225.50220859, 24 hour low: 454.38, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 476.830339419
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.0220031 = 0.264 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00420006 = 0.42 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 19 @ 0.0229989 = 0.437 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 27 @ 0.03949984 = 1.0665 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.095 = 0.855 BTC [+]
benkay: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 493.75, Best ask: 494.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 494.0, 24 hour volume: 25806.57301911, 24 hour low: 454.38, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 476.842344556
benkay: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 494.0, vol: 25806.57301911 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 481.2, vol: 16732.93168 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 495.24, vol: 19831.56670882 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 499.0, vol: 129.10944697 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 489.076903, vol: 5655.75180000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 493.79, vol: 24.98197601 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 482.880017, vol: 176.91035795 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/tuurdemeester/status/468928183145103362
assbot: 66% of Dutch want old currency the Guilder back. Mere 26% supports status quo of Netherlands as member of EU. http://t.co/rlboTfPV16
bitcoinpete: burn dat paper
bitcoinpete: http://rt.com/usa/160216-weev-invoice-fed-bitcoin/
bitcoinpete: "For the 13 months he spent at Allenwood Federal Correctional Complex and the span he spent before then awaiting trial, Auernheimer is asking the government to pay his current market-determined rate of 1 BTC an hour, amounting to 28,296 bitcoins, or $13,200,000 USD as of this writing."
bitcoinpete: Isn't moiety only getting 1 bitcent an hour? and this dude wants 100x that
bitcoinpete: c'mon
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell danielpbarron I'm coming around to the idea that it i probably best to keep your bitcoin wallets away from your nodes.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: But Weev is a great freedom fighter.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 39 @ 0.03893267 = 1.5184 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.095 = 1.9 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell danielpbarron I also don't think it is possible to build bitcoind/qt on any platform without throwing at least an error.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 9 @ 0.038115 = 0.343 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.095 = 1.045 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 11 @ 0.03949979 = 0.4345 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.47899999 = 4.311 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.095 = 0.38 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: %book
BingoBoingo: https://medium.com/message/81e5f33a24e1
assbot: Everything Is Broken The Message Medium
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.479 = 1.916 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.095 = 0.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 11 @ 0.03949979 = 0.4345 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 37 @ 0.03820692 = 1.4137 BTC [-] {8}
fluffypony: http://www.commitstrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Strips-IDE-visual-studio-650-finalenglish.jpg
fluffypony: replace VS with XCode and you have the same issue on OS X
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.127 BTC [-]
fluffypony: oh!
fluffypony: !up anarkitty
fluffypony: !up anarkitty
fluffypony: there we go
fluffypony: hi anarkitty
fluffypony: I just got your reddit reply...sent 3 hours ago...I should check that more regularly
moiety: morning all :]
fluffypony: moiety: mornings
moiety: scotland has sun! I'm in shock :]
fluffypony: lol
punkman: hawt ;) http://imgur.com/a/X1qKV
assbot: Hotel room fun - Imgur
punkman: guess kitty went to sleep now
fluffypony: ja
fluffypony: well, MP isn't around anyway
fluffypony: will wait for both of them to be up
moiety: https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1.0-9/10365770_728914440517290_2533863031457067468_n.jpg
moiety: new satire page Britain Furst
punkman: that's a furst rate turban
fluffypony: lol
pankkake: TradeFortress is now known as "Free hugs! ♥" on scamtalk
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Really?
pankkake: yes really. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135157.msg6850730#msg6850730
assbot: [BitFunder] BTCINVEST - Low risk investment fund | Market cap: 2000+ BTC
pankkake: goat started the trend, I guess
fluffypony: yeah
fluffypony: he renamed himself
fluffypony: and put "aka Tradefortress" as his description
fluffypony: at least he dropped the BitBet affil link out of his signature
moiety: "His posts seem a tad strange" lol
fluffypony: mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: sup
fluffypony: anarkitty is in the room - she sent me a message on Reddit 3 hrs ago, so presumably she's asleep now
mircea_popescu: anarkitty hey there
mircea_popescu: !up anarkitty
mircea_popescu: sluts sleep ?!
fluffypony: idle for 4 hours
mircea_popescu: that's long enough then :D
fluffypony: :-P
mircea_popescu: wait idle for 4 hours on webirc and she didn't get cut off ? helluva great connection she's got
mircea_popescu: i thought she was in the us.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 494.94, Best ask: 494.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 494.94, 24 hour volume: 23878.21163108, 24 hour low: 455.07, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 484.900683671
mircea_popescu: moving up in the world.
fluffypony: yeah, will take a bit of doing to get through the wall at 500
moiety: why do I never get the ping timeout thing? is it my client?
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: Isn't moiety only getting 1 bitcent an hour? and this dude wants 100x that << if people could make a bitcoin/hour sitting in a us prison we'd definitely need to increase the block rewards.
mircea_popescu: moiety yes.
mircea_popescu: ;;seen anarkitty
gribble: I have not seen anarkitty.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony lol so she's just not said anything ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: she wasn't voiced
fluffypony: so when she got here and tried to talk...lol...
mircea_popescu: o i c
mircea_popescu: i guess remarkably patient girl then huh.
mircea_popescu: pankkake: TradeFortress is now known as "Free hugs! ♥" on scamtalk << why is it always the scammers that push the purely formal "be nice to people" angle ? o wait! because that's how mimicry works, and that's what they are!
moiety: weev said himself “because it's fucking hilarious to demand money from feds for a McVeigh Memorial grove,” adding “I honestly think we need to build statues of them just to piss off federal agents really.”
moiety: and i still dont believe he is a scammer.
mircea_popescu: who, weev ?
moiety: no tf
mircea_popescu: didn't he run off with a bunch of bitcoinz ?
fluffypony: he "lost" 4200 Bitcoins
moiety: i don't think he did though and i believe he reimbursed what he could out of his own funds
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: https://blockchain.info/tx/eb37287bdebf6b52553f1538e7c46e0ec4f1cd4701d5c17ad9f6047a0fa52814 you mean this ?
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction eb37287bdebf6b52553f1538e7c46e0ec4f1cd4701d5c17ad9f6047a0fa52814
moiety: i wasn't really watching the forum through all of this, i knew him in a different capacity
pankkake: he probably lost them throught CoinLenders. still a scam, running a fractionnal reserve is a scam
mircea_popescu: moiety like... your bf ?
moiety: no lol
moiety: i was a mod at coinchat then he just gave the thing to me when he left
mircea_popescu: pankkake that's easily believable
moiety: cus everyone flipped out when it went offline
mircea_popescu: hardly an argument now is it kitten.
moiety: no, not an argument, just what i feel
mircea_popescu: yeah. the problem is that this take in 4k btc, take a vacation for half a year then come back and split a btc or two to the idiots is really very good business.
mircea_popescu: and if it becomes socially acceptable bitcoin will become entirely sealed off to the poor.
mircea_popescu: even as it is they have a hard time.
moiety: lots of people close due to hacks (whether true or not) and don't reimburse anything
mircea_popescu: and none of them may come back, ever again, in any capacity.
mircea_popescu: sooner or later people will come to the realisation that reputation is worth a helluva lot than money,
mircea_popescu: which was in fact truth, plain as day, for as long as the state was weak and the hansa and its successor guilds ruled supreme.
fluffypony: moiety
fluffypony: the problem is
fluffypony: it's hard to say with any degree of certainty that he didn't con people out
cazalla: tradefortress was on national tv talking about the loss, almost having a laugh
fluffypony: of their Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: cazalla he's an aussie ?
cazalla: yeah
cazalla: well, lives/lived here, probably an asian student
mircea_popescu: o another one huh.
cazalla: i'll see if i can find the recording
mircea_popescu: good idea
cazalla: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-08/bitcoin-site-hacked-founder-says/5078148 audio
assbot: Australian bitcoin user TradeFortress says site hacked, $1 million in virtual currency stolen - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
moiety: i know fluffypony it's just too hard for me to believe that
fluffypony: moiety: let me put it this way
fluffypony: for that amount of money even the most straight-laced individual would have a hard time not wanting to lift a little
fluffypony: and once you've stolen a little it snowballs into "how can I steal the whole lot"
fluffypony: the reason this doesn't happen in big companies is because of the number of people involved
fluffypony: you'd have to collude with so many
mircea_popescu: fluffypony except itdoes happen in big companies.
fluffypony: when you have 1 person holding millions?
mircea_popescu: the only reason it doesn't happen, as long as it doesn't, is that they don't actually have access to it.
mircea_popescu: basic corp governance, nobody may write checks on the corp account.
fluffypony: yes exactly
fluffypony: old school version of multi-sig
fluffypony: :-P
mircea_popescu: not even
mircea_popescu: see, you simply can not write a check. at all. no sig whatsoever
mircea_popescu: corp only pays specific types of things to specific types of people and that's that.
mircea_popescu: which is why random nobodies can't b2b. because for the corp, it's too much like simply being stolen from
mircea_popescu: so you gotta have a big corp to sell overpriced shit to another big corp
mircea_popescu: it's a whole bezzle.
mircea_popescu: !up bitcoingirl
mircea_popescu: this happens to also be why i'm quite so powerful. sure there's other people with money on twitter, VCs or whatnot.
bitcoingirl: Mircea I have some questions for you
mircea_popescu: the difference is that i can write a check for ten millioin dollars to a stripper, if i feel like it
mircea_popescu: they... not.
mircea_popescu: bitcoingirl ok but make it quick cause i gotta go to town in a few minutes.
mircea_popescu: or if not, later today.
bitcoingirl: can we go to private chate
bitcoingirl: chat
mircea_popescu: go ahead
bitcoingirl: is it gribble?
mircea_popescu: lol you go /query mircea_popescu nooblet
fluffypony: moiety: and just to re-iterate, I don't know the guy, so I'm not judging his character either way, I'm just saying that *anyone* with sole control over that amount of money would have a tough time staying honest
BingoBoingo: I just can't get over TF losing a decade from his age by becoming insolvent.
fluffypony: lol
fluffypony: http://i.imgur.com/ONFRysx.jpg
moiety: i totally understand that. I'm the way I am because I didn't know the business of it all, i knew the character and thats why it's so hard for me to believe
cazalla: TF probably finished his degree and like a lot of international students, pull a fast one on credit cards etc etc and piss off back home to avoid paying back the debt
mircea_popescu: !up anarkitty
fluffypony: moiety: whenever someone gets arrested for huge amounts of fraud, pedophilia, whatever, they interview all his neighbours and friends and they're always like "we're so shocked, he's such a nice guy!"
mircea_popescu: cazalla has an excellent theory, i had no idea he's another zhou tong
fluffypony: most of the people I'd trust with any portion of my money are not particularly "nice" people. Approachable, sure, and always reasonable, but not nice by any definition of the term.
mircea_popescu: hey, makes two of us
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 494.68, Best ask: 496.65, Bid-ask spread: 1.97000, Last trade: 494.68, 24 hour volume: 23910.36995140, 24 hour low: 455.2, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 484.977061657
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell anarkitty hey there. ima be out for a few hours, but please don't go anywhere, i wanna talk to you whjen i'm back. you can talk to me directly by going /query mircea_popescu whether you have voice or not.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
bitcoingirl: does anyone have a guess on what drove the price up 10% yesterday?
BingoBoingo: http://gizmodo.com/a-guillotine-on-a-stick-that-lets-you-play-caesar-with-1579134087
assbot: A Guillotine On a Stick That Lets You Play Caesar With Slugs
BingoBoingo: bitcoingirl: It was probably people on twitter telling Gavin to shut up that did it.
bitcoingirl: you sure it wasn't the Fox Business interview?
fluffypony: bitcoingirl: it was rallymoad
fluffypony: the reality is that the market is poised for movement
fluffypony: and then someone tried to start a rally, wasn't massively successful, but it picked up a bit of steam
fluffypony: broke through the wall at 475, and stopped short of breaking through 500
bitcoingirl: how does someone try to start a rally? what did they do exactly to move the market?
fluffypony: bitcoingirl: buy a significant quantity of Bitcoins, setup structured buy walls below market value to create the illusion of demand, all sorts of things can be done to try get it going
fluffypony: the market either reacts or it doesn't
fluffypony: and it can turn on them just as quickly as succeed
bitcoingirl: what are buy walls?
fluffypony: still, at 3 day scale the MACD looks promising
chetty: http://blogs.marketwatch.com/capitolreport/2014/05/20/charles-plosser-thinks-theres-a-ticking-time-bomb-at-the-fed/
assbot: Charles Plosser thinks there’s a ticking time bomb at the Fed - Capitol Report - MarketWatch
fluffypony: bitcoingirl: like if someone puts up a bunch of offers to buy Bitcoin at $450 each totalling $200k, when the market is at $460, that's a buy wall
fluffypony: it can make sellers move their offers up higher because they think it's an indicator of demand
fluffypony: but it can also backfire and people can sell into the buy wall faster than the trader can pull it
BingoBoingo: Trying to shape supply and demand can be a way to lose a lot of money quickly though.
fluffypony: ^^
bitcoingirl: and where was this happening yesterday?
fluffypony: bitcoingirl: the movement started on Bitstamp
bitcoingirl: and where was this happening yesterday??
fluffypony: wait, didn't I just answer that?
bitcoingirl: yes sorry
bitcoingirl: where would you monitor the price if your trading on bitstamp
fluffypony: lots of traders have tools they've bought / built / whatever
fluffypony: for the casual observer such as myself
fluffypony: https://bitcoinwisdom.com
assbot: BitcoinWisdom - Live Bitcoin/Litecoin charts
fluffypony: use a 3d or 1d (3 day / 1 day) scale to get a more macrocosmic view
fluffypony: and in Settings turn the MACD indicator on
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 497.0, vol: 23912.05813220 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 486.66, vol: 13113.52364 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 495.4, vol: 18927.31535076 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 500.38, vol: 116.33922507 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 492.354216, vol: 5361.20070000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 490.84583, vol: 24.23311087 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 495.9725, vol: 200.09617222 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 493.906224162
bitcoingirl: what is this gribble that keeps coming up?
fluffypony: especially at a 3 day scale the MACD seems to indicate that some upward movement is due...or it'll just settle back down
fluffypony: the market is a fickle beast
BingoBoingo: bitcoingirl: It's a bot that reports information.
BingoBoingo: It also manages the Web of Trust
bitcoingirl: and how is it useful?
moiety: saves you roaming around, you can do a lot in-channel
bitcoingirl: sorry if these seem like dumb questions - I'm just jumping in WOT
BingoBoingo: ;;gettrust assbot moiety
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user moiety: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=moiety | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=moiety | Rated since: Tue Feb 25 20:04:56 2014
moiety: how?
fluffypony: bitcoingirl: which part, the market info from gribble?
moiety: urgh
bitcoingirl: right all these prices and volumes
BingoBoingo: assbot is the other useful bot
BingoBoingo: !t glbse nyan
assbot: The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
BingoBoingo: !t m s.nsa
assbot: [MPEX:S.NSA] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00013 / 0.00013 / 0.00013 (3150 shares, 0.41 BTC), 30D: 0.00013 / 0.00014409 / 0.00015 (11359 shares, 1.64 BTC)
bitcoingirl: what does that mean ^^
moiety: ;;ident
gribble: Nick 'moiety', with hostmask 'moiety!~moiety@unaffiliated/moiety', is identified as user 'moiety', with GPG key id 6DF881D6696B6111, key fingerprint E64F1CD74C9F7F955A892A646DF881D6696B6111, and bitcoin address None
moiety: gribble must have had a huff while i was asleep?
BingoBoingo: assbot pulls up tickers for various bitcoin related assets
fluffypony: moiety: probably
BingoBoingo: It also manages voice in channel
BingoBoingo: !up Periscope
bitcoingirl: got it.
moiety: i usually check ident when i wake up too, and this morning i just thought, nah it'll be fine lol
bitcoingirl: if i want to short BTC, what would be a good strategy?
fluffypony: bitcoingirl: every time I've tried doing any sort of short-term trading I've lost money...I'd avoid that space unless you have tons of experience
bitcoingirl: +fluffypony: so how are you making money?
fluffypony: !up bitcoingirl
bitcoingirl: where is the assbot? how does it work
fluffypony: bitcoingirl: I'm a major shareholder in a group of companies
fluffypony: from before Bitcoin existed :)
bitcoingirl: what? how does that work?
bitcoingirl: in bitcoin companies?
fluffypony: nope
bitcoingirl: oh
bitcoingirl: how do you make money trading bitcoin?
fluffypony: I don't, I buy and hold
bitcoingirl: so you're long and bullish
fluffypony: exactly
bitcoingirl: do you ever sell?
fluffypony: sure, occasionally and for very specific reasons
bitcoingirl: like what for example?
fluffypony: but I share bitcoinpete's view
fluffypony: lemme grab that quote from him
fluffypony: here
fluffypony: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/02/25/matters-of-bitcoin-merchant-adoption/
assbot: On Matters of Merchant Adoption | When Bitcoin Met Pete
fluffypony: this part: "I learned it last summer when I spent 3 BTC on a $450 case of wine in Kelowna. Today, I could’ve bought that case for 0.64 BTC, and probably more like 0.1 BTC before long, then 0.001 BTC, etc."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0325 = 0.1625 BTC [-]
Apocalyptic: <bitcoingirl> if i want to short BTC, what would be a good strategy? // borrow them from someone
punkman: or bet here http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1120.86 B (86%) on Yes, 186.18 B (14%) on No | closing in 8 months 4 weeks | weight: 80`354 (100`000 to 1)
Naphex: /last Naphex
Naphex: eek
pankkake: if irsii, a tip: /last -hilight -new
pankkake: hm, it's lastlog. so not irssi
Naphex: irssi actually
Naphex: last is aliased
Naphex: :P
Naphex: Irssi 0.8.16-rc1 (20140111) - http://irssi.org/
assbot: Irssi - The client of the future
BingoBoingo: Look at the pretense http://theamericanbitcoincompany.com/
fluffypony: the most trusted name in Bitcoin?
BingoBoingo: First, best, only
fluffypony: all their cards look like poor Amex knockoffs
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: And what do the cards even do?
fluffypony: I think it's like a membership card
BingoBoingo: http://theamericanbitcoincompany.com/wallets/
assbot: Wallet Services | American Bitcoin Inc.
fluffypony: "hey look how cool I am, member of the American Bitcoin elite, proud Foundation bronze member, free Ross Ulbricht!"
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: that paragraph breaks my brain
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Click one of their register buttons and see how they accept payment
Apocalyptic: fluffypony, funny thing it does no longer do that on me
Apocalyptic: must have seen too many of them
fluffypony: checkout with paypal...lol...
BingoBoingo: Or Coinbase!
Naphex: quick #bitcoin-assets poll: Second FIAT currency, EUR or USD?:D
fluffypony: after rubles?
Naphex: after Romanian LEU
fluffypony: EUR, imho
BingoBoingo: RMB!
BingoBoingo: China has to trade somewhere
dexX7: theamericanbitcoincompany.com vs "american bitcoin >community" lol
dexX7: what's that anyway? foundation 2.0?
chetty: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/21/us-ebay-password-idUSBREA4K0B420140521
assbot: Ebay asks all users to change passwords| Reuters
BingoBoingo: dexX7: Broke ass thing that aspires to be what the foundation imagines it is
dexX7: so is it legit?
Duffer1: sounds about as legit as the first one
Duffer1: no i dunno, i've never heard of them until just now
dexX7: hehe
pankkake: I tried to change my eBay password a few weeks ago. I didn't work.
dexX7: ouch
fluffypony: I just changed mine
thestringpuller: fluffypony: you watch that video yet
dexX7: worked for me, too
fluffypony: thestringpuller: no, it's on my list, day got away from me a little
moiety: my internet just had a tantrum and fucked off for a minute or two
moiety: i can't remember my ebay password and I'm locked out of my google account to reset it
BingoBoingo: Oh, the perils of relying on other people's computers for so much.
dub: check if your password is on tpb
danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, why shouldn't my wallet be with my full node?
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: I like the idea of separating roles.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1910 @ 0.00011557 = 0.2207 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 70 @ 0.00599991 = 0.42 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.47949 = 0.959 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, how would I send a transaction then?
danielpbarron: does bitcoind let me create a transaction on one machine, and sign it on another/
BingoBoingo: You pass it to the node. bitcoind could probably be abused into doing that. Armory does that well. Electrum effectively does that if you only have it connect to the node at
BingoBoingo: Or whatever the other machine is.
BingoBoingo: I think electrum has an offline solution for transaction signing.
danielpbarron: i don't want to use electrum or armory
danielpbarron: is there any command line option?
BingoBoingo: I haven't dug into bitcoind that much. I just run it as a dumb node, making sure it plays nice with the network and then largely letting it be.
danielpbarron: it sounds like the thing I want has yet to be written
BingoBoingo: There's probably a command line option to push a raw transaction on the network in bitcoind.
dexX7: danielpbarron: this is possible, but difficult with bitcoind because it doesn't let you sign unless you synced completely afaik
dexX7: might be worth to check out https://github.com/petertodd/python-bitcoinlib which allows signing
assbot: petertodd/python-bitcoinlib GitHub
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 19 @ 0.0224999 = 0.4275 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: assbot is definitely not posting MPEX stuff; all I've seen for the last 24 hours is havelock trades
BingoBoingo: http://www.oreilly.com/pub/e/3059
assbot: Webcast: Beyond Security: Getting to Know OpenBSD's Real Purpose
artifexd: moiety: My understanding is that there are two definitions of "scammer". One from the business owner's point of view (dishonesty or theft). One from the investor's point of view (failure to pay obligations). The popular view here is from the investor's point of view because it doesn't matter *why* someone didn't pay their obligations. That person should not
artifexd: be trusted with further money.
moiety: ok
artifexd: fluffypony: I tend to share benkay's view of bitcoin. Specifically from here: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/02/09_bitcoiners-upset-at-apple-understand-neither-apples-business-model-nor-bitcoin.html
assbot: Bitcoiners Upset at Apple Understand Neither Apple's Business Model nor Bitcoin
artifexd: "Furthermore, putting bitcoins on your phone is probably the goddamn stupidest thing that I've ever heard of. Bitcoins are going to be the world's reserve currency4, and as such fated to rise to prices per coin that dwarf even the outlandish Winklevoss' most media-hungry "predictions". To leave such a precious commodity within reach of anyone with a USB
artifexd: cable5 and a gun to scare you off your phone is the height of idiocy."
fluffypony: lol
jurov: "BREAKING: Bitcoin conference participants robbed with USB cable on gunpoint"
BingoBoingo: Let us never forget Tortilla's conference where he lost thousands of bitcoins to a sauna
BingoBoingo: %book
atcbot: 0k@285 63k@278 25k@277 | 33k@187 55k@156 10k@155
pankkake: %diff
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 455357.13 Est. Next Diff: 149204.27 in 687 blocks (#32256) Est. % Change: -67.23
jurov: http://www.rouming.cz/roumingShow.php?file=smart_girl.jpg hahaha
assbot: Roumenv Rouming - Zbavn a zajmav obrzky - smart girl
mod6: lol smh
chetty: The Obama administration has quietly adjusted key provisions of its signature healthcare law to potentially make billions of additional taxpayer dollars available to the insurance industry if companies providing coverage through the Affordable Care Act lose money.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.03896326 = 0.1169 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=375643.0
assbot: I AM HODLING | Bitcointa.lk
mike_c: asciilifeform: variant 1 - powerful machine, must sing, like 'harley davidson'; << how else do you know it's working!
mike_c: machines gotta earn their keep
mike_c: kakobrekla: note busted link in log because it is hyperlinking the parantheses
mike_c: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2014#684030 ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
moiety: ffs my net keeps going off
artifexd: mike_c: I also changed the bot to not put the links in parenthesis. Thanks for pointing that out.
mike_c: ah
dexX7: danielpbarron: oh hey, correction: you actually can quite easily sign raw transactions offline with bitcoind, but you need to supply the scriptpubkey of inputs, see http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=bxrEyqbt for an example
thestringpuller: punkman: hey you around?
punkman: thestringpuller: ja
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.033 = 0.165 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: http://gizmodo.com/the-fbi-is-struggling-to-hire-hackers-who-dont-smoke-we-1579183208
assbot: The FBI Is Struggling to Hire Hackers Who Don't Smoke Weed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.095 = 0.95 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: cool, thanks dexX7
chetty: http://blog.thomsonreuters.com/?p=32205
punkman: ""I have to hire a great work force to compete with those cyber criminals, and some of those kids want to smoke weed on the way to the interview,""
punkman: lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 130 @ 0.00412962 = 0.5369 BTC [-] {6}
mike_c: is the problem that the cyber criminals have better weed?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.00409875 = 0.4919 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: yeah the gov-approved weed is crap
kakobrekla: ist gov approve <insert stuff here> crap ?
kakobrekla: isnt
kakobrekla: bah.
chetty: hmm doesn't gubermint approved= bad for you?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00415503 = 0.4155 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1017 @ 0.00402367 = 4.0921 BTC [-] {7}
punkman: http://www.thecannabist.co/2014/05/06/u-s-government-grow-1430-pounds-weed-dea-registered-research/11281/
assbot: U.S. government to grow 1,430 pounds of weed for DEA-registered research
kakobrekla: ;;google 1430 pounds in kg
gribble: 2011 World's Strongest man- Squat Lift- Zydrunas Savickas - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mqSqwGJAMg>; Leg press - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leg_press>; Terrafugia Transition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrafugia_Transition>
kakobrekla: ok.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 70 @ 0.03343256 = 2.3403 BTC [+] {3}
dub: ;;calc 1430*2.2
gribble: 3146
dub: ;;calc 1430/2.2
gribble: 650
dub: even
dub: smoked too much weed to remember weed conversion tables
punkman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassionate_Investigational_New_Drug_program
assbot: Compassionate Investigational New Drug program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
pankkake: kakobrekla: GNU Units
kakobrekla: mhm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.095 = 1.425 BTC [+]
dub: 9 ounces a month is some smoking
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.03372386 = 1.6862 BTC [+] {7}
BingoBoingo: dub: But if it is crappy government weed...
punkman: the Mississippi guy started with mexican ditchweed
dub: thats a joint every hour 15 hours a day
kakobrekla: dont they take it orally?
punkman: I like the can they give them: https://www.theweedblog.com/wp-content/uploads//Federal-Medical-Marijuana-Can-300x300.jpg
dub: yeah you inhale through your mouth generally
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: The government only approves suppositories
kakobrekla: lol
dub: 9oz of suppository
punkman: that's goatse territory
kakobrekla: meh prerolled shit
BingoBoingo: !up soros
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 491.53, Best ask: 491.8, Bid-ask spread: 0.27000, Last trade: 491.8, 24 hour volume: 21195.10084630, 24 hour low: 469.64, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 486.155141349
kakobrekla: o look its george
dub: th ecanned joints are 0.5g so 17 joints/dey
soros: ^^ hello gents
dub: thats like dub at 18 territory
dub: getting close at least
BingoBoingo: 17 times a day is rather often to put something up up the ass.
kakobrekla: what brings you soros ?
pankkake: well then there's a market for an automated suppository gun, in the form of a butt plug
kakobrekla: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/05/19/data-pirates-caribbean-nsa-recording-every-cell-phone-call-bahamas/
assbot: Data Pirates of the Caribbean: The NSA Is Recording Every Cell Phone Call in the Bahamas - The Intercept
BingoBoingo: http://www.katu.com/news/local/Womans-car-attacked-by-self-identified-high-elf-battling-evil-259598811.html
assbot: Woman's car attacked by self-identified 'high elf' battling evil | Local & Regional | KATU.com - Portland News, Sports, Traffic Weather and Breaking News - Portland, Oregon
soros: kakobrekla: nothing particular, thinking of merging that foundation of mine with TBF
kakobrekla: foundwhat with what?
BingoBoingo: soros: What's your foundation? Basement, slab, pier and post?
BingoBoingo: http://www.wired.com/2014/05/snowden-cryptoparty/
assbot: Snowden’s First Move Against the NSA Was a Party in Hawaii | Threat Level | WIRED
rithm: https://app.box.com/s/1xbjbx9qiaua7xpyh94w
assbot: Bitcoin2014_AnnualMembersMeetingTranscript.pdf - Datei ber Box freigegeben
moiety: if i have to eauth one more time today imma eat gribble
chetty: http://marketrealist.com/2014/05/george-soros-soros-fund-sells-stakes-jpmorgan-chase-citigroup/
assbot: George Soros' fund sells its stake in JPMorgan Chase in 1Q14 » Market Realist
thestringpuller: moiety: heh, you don't have a bouncer?
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/bitcoin-difficulty-update/
assbot: Bitcoin difficulty update
rithm: dat znc bro
moiety: i thought thats why i didn't ping time out?
moiety: i thought i did
mike_c: has anyone made money ever going short diff? unstoppable force.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Only a few anomalous difficulty BitBets
rithm: there were a few weeks in 2011 where you could short the diff?
rithm: maybe fewer in 2012
soros: kakobrekla: Open Society Foundation with The Bitcoin Foundation
kakobrekla: the only thing you want to do with TBF is to run, as fast and as far as you can.
kakobrekla: not run it, but away.
rithm: run far, far away
rithm: they aren't cashflow positive and they are burning through their initial endowment
rithm: that's what the report says
BingoBoingo: ^
kakobrekla: i was thinking of child porn really.
soros: kakobrekla: quite the contrary, TBF would be a perfect fit to join me and my buddies. in fact, they may already have joined us.. ;)
kakobrekla is confuzled
fluffypony: except the child molesters, presumably
BingoBoingo: !up soros
rithm: oh yeah the brock landers child sex thing too
kakobrekla: i thought we were done wif dat.
BingoBoingo: soros: Is it the Brock Pierce sex thing, srsly
BingoBoingo: http://gawker.com/20-million-bees-swarm-delaware-highway-after-tractor-tr-1579475489
assbot: 20 Million Bees Swarm Delaware Highway After Tractor-Trailer Crash
kakobrekla: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/18/us-cisco-systems-nsa-idUSBREA4H0C720140518
assbot: Cisco chief urges Obama to curb NSA surveillance activity| Reuters
kakobrekla: heh
soros: BingoBoingo: not at all, thats just some bonus, i'm more thinking about this http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/george-soros-the-united-states-must-stop-resisting-the-orderly-decline-of-the-dollar-the-coming-global-currency-and-the-new-world-order
assbot: George Soros: The United States Must Stop Resisting The Orderly Decline Of The Dollar, The Coming Global Currency And The New World Order
BingoBoingo: soros: Is this some sort of roleplaying you are trying here http://www.megalomaniac.com/~andrew/funny/bloodcyber.html
assbot: The Saga of Bloodninja
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46004823 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.0042499 = 0.4462 BTC [+]
chetty: oic, soros thinks btc will be the nwo currency :P
soros: chetty: not "will be".. try "is"
rithm: duh
BingoBoingo: !down soros
rithm: why else would i have been hoarding bitcoins for years before these retarded millionaires caught on
chetty: :D
pankkake: !up soros
pankkake: FU assbot
pankkake: !up soros
pankkake: !up Anar
HeySteve: soros, why not the basket of gold, SDRs, rubles, yuan, dollars, etc.?
chetty: ;;gettrust soros
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user chetty to user soros: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=chetty&dest=soros | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=soros | Rated since: never
chetty: !up princessnell
soros: HeySteve: been there, done that
princessnell: yo peeps
thestringpuller: it's the economist
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 24 @ 0.03805341 = 0.9133 BTC [-] {5}
HeySteve: k soros gl getting central banks to accept loss of control over rates and money supply
thestringpuller: !ticker m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0008848 / 0.00090406 / 0.00094991 (467313 shares, 422.48 BTC), 7D: 0.0008848 / 0.00095919 / 0.00100536 (4425468 shares, 4,244.88 BTC), 30D: 0.00083786 / 0.00093955 / 0.00101 (23668180 shares, 22,237.54 BTC)
thestringpuller: !last m s.mpoe
assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00088856 BTC [-]
benkay: ;;later tell bitcoingirl oh, you're shilling for the foundation too now? http://nmllplaw.com/attorneys/marco-a-santori/ << "Bitcoin lawyer"
assbot: Marco A. Santori
gribble: The operation succeeded.
benkay: o look usg opining about cn/btc: http://origin.www.uscc.gov/sites/default/files/Research/USCC%20Economic%20Issue%20Brief%20-%20Bitcoin%20-%2005%2012%2014.pdf
HeySteve: lol peter schiff has changed his tune about bitcoin
benkay: http://www.bankofcanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/boc-review-spring14-fung.pdf << apparently the thief David Joseph has yet to make good on being the Canadian government's go-to dood for btc things.
cgcardona: good morning everyone o/
benkay: ;;later tell bitcoingirl a pox on your uncritical republication of fundation noise
gribble: The operation succeeded.
cgcardona: HeySteve: url?
cgcardona: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 492.57, Best ask: 493.19, Bid-ask spread: 0.62000, Last trade: 493.32, 24 hour volume: 18368.13937592, 24 hour low: 478.0, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 486.155141349
benkay: A POX.
HeySteve: I just got a press release, cgcardona, no link as yet
cgcardona: what's he have to say? How did he change his tune?
HeySteve: oh wait check out his site: http://www.europacmetals.com/
assbot: Peter Schiffs Gold Company | Euro Pacific Precious Metals
cgcardona: "Well ok there is intrinsic value :p"
HeySteve: http://blog.europacmetals.com/2014/05/euro-pacific-precious-metals-now-accepts-bitcoin/ specifically
assbot: Euro Pacific Precious Metals Now Accepts Bitcoin | Peter Schiffs Official Gold Blog
cgcardona: oh shit
mjr_: lol
mjr_: we were just talking about that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.42771748 BTC to 8`548 shares, 28401 satoshi per share
HeySteve: heh well better late than never for Peter Schiff I guess. he's one of the saner "talking heads" out there
cgcardona: "PETER SCHIFF—TAKE MY BITCOIN!1!!1" -noone ever
mjr_: hahaha
mjr_: yeah
mjr_: and...i guess if we had to stop and say i told you so to everyone who got bitcoin wrong...
princessnell: heysteve that's not saying much...
BingoBoingo: benkay: Which one was she again?
princessnell: benkay boring perianne is still learning
cgcardona: the valcambi bars are a goldbugs wet dream http://www.europacmetals.com/our-products.aspx
assbot: Our Products
cgcardona: though entirely not practical
HeySteve: true princessnell. still waiting for paul krugman to come around :P
princessnell: heysteve they will be first in line for redemption after the rev
fluffypony: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-27503290
assbot: BBC News - eBay makes users change their passwords after hack
cgcardona: yea minimum order of $5000. Where can I buy smaller quanitites of precious metals w/ btc?
cgcardona: i'd love to pick up just a few coins but don't really want to drop $5000
HeySteve: cgcardona, there's amagi metals, coinabul and a few others
BingoBoingo: Coinabul's a scam
cgcardona: i thought I had checked out amagi and they also required a min of 200oz of silver. checking now again....
HeySteve: !up coingenuity
rithm: buying metal with cyprtocurrency is a terrible idea that usually has worked in someone else's favor
rithm: historically that's my perspective
HeySteve: fluffypony, so ebay was hacked Feb - Mar and only found about it now?
fluffypony: ja seems that way
cgcardona: rithm: care to explain?
fluffypony: we all changed our passwords earlier, someone posted a link about an eBay notice going out
fluffypony: didn't know why tho
rithm: the metal loses value as a function of time and the bitcoin does not?
rithm: historically speaking, since both have only existed for x
rithm: gold might be an anomoly but not by much
cgcardona: yea I'm not thinking of moving from btc to gold as an investment. the bulk of my assets are in btc and will remain there. i was more thinking getting some precious metals just as collectors items.
cgcardona: that's why i only wanna order a couple
rithm: amagi shipped 10 ounces of gold in 6 days
rithm: that's my only experience
cgcardona: oh ok cool. so they will ship less than 200 oz. great to know. thanks rithm
rithm: silver is worthless
HeySteve: no way, rithm. kills werewolves
cgcardona: haha
rithm: it killed 'em for 35$ and now it kills them at $19
thestringpuller: benkay disco killed the radio
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.03307369 = 0.9922 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 494.02, Best ask: 494.22, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 494.02, 24 hour volume: 18063.26901568, 24 hour low: 478.0, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 491.460861006
BingoBoingo: !up moiety
moiety: ty
BingoBoingo: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/sailor-convicted-of-hacking-websites-from-aboard-aircraft-carrier/
assbot: Sailor convicted of hacking websites from aboard aircraft carrier | Ars Technica
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 21 @ 0.038 = 0.798 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.0042 = 0.1764 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/469151314300399617
assbot: 74% of Wall Street believes /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash will become an alternative currency, according to Bitcoin Trust survey: http://t.co/ODjtwSV7an
moiety: i think my router had a heart attack today? seems ok now
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoKt_SOIEAAqXCu.jpg << this is pretty lulzy
kakobrekla: mike_c : patched
mike_c: link test (http://bitbet.us/bet/796/) commenced
kakobrekla: lol
mike_c: cool, thanks
kakobrekla: yw
mircea_popescu: check out lawski guy : http://t.co/LlZyGiji47
assbot: BNP Paribas Risks Client Flight as Ban on Transfers Looms - Businessweek
mircea_popescu: basically the us is turning into venezuela on the rather transparent and quite flimsy pretext of...
mircea_popescu: im not sure even what exactly, was it "money laundering" ?
BingoBoingo: Turrorism
BingoBoingo: Or maybe Turderism
mircea_popescu: bitcoingirl: what is this gribble that keeps coming up? << she's adowable isn't she.
danielpbarron: <+BingoBoingo> Coinabul's a scam << someone i deal with is currently waiting for them to ship and it's been weeks or months at this point
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: the most trusted name in Bitcoin? << well, anyone can claim anything right ?
mircea_popescu: and the consumer is gonna learn that claiming is not worth much
mircea_popescu: exactly like the claims of jurisdiction his government keeps making aren't worth much.
kakobrekla: fluffypony: the most trusted name in Bitcoin? < ognasty obv.
BingoBoingo: http://valleywag.gawker.com/airbnb-loves-sharing-so-much-it-agreed-to-subpoena-on-1579561833/+sarah-hedgecock
assbot: Airbnb Loves Sharing So Much, It Agreed to Subpoena On Illegal Hosts
mircea_popescu: chetty: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/21/us-ebay-password-idUSBREA4K0B420140521 <<< ahahaha.
assbot: EBay says client information stolen in hacking attack| Reuters
mircea_popescu: SeCuReTee-Hee
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla he meant some "american bitcoin corp" website some kid put up last week
kakobrekla: a dunno
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo they had no option, really. theyt're a bunch of party clowns (literally) out to make money.
mircea_popescu: the alternative was grand jury indictments.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Of course, but it's funny to see that the clowns realized holding out for a grand jury would fall even flatter on their audience
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: assbot is definitely not posting MPEX stuff; all I've seen for the last 24 hours is havelock trades << looking into it
mike_c: fwiw, kako's feed hasn't reported any trades for 27 hours
mircea_popescu: it's... fixed.
mjr_: good morning
danielpbarron: cool, thanks :)
BingoBoingo: !t m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00047 / 0.00049937 / 0.00051499 (48838 shares, 24.39 BTC), 30D: 0.00047 / 0.00050069 / 0.00054 (51695 shares, 25.88 BTC)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Let us never forget Tortilla's conference where he lost thousands of bitcoins to a sauna << ahjahaha.
mircea_popescu: but he didn't lose anything, he just created drama
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4789999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.47952666 = 1.4386 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 400 @ 0.00047 = 0.188 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: mike_c: has anyone made money ever going short diff? unstoppable force. << i think a few bets wonthat way, but still. drop in bucket.
mircea_popescu: so did y'all teach perianne how to make moneyz shorting bitcoin or what.
mircea_popescu: !up moiety
mircea_popescu: rithm: they aren't cashflow positive and they are burning through their initial endowment << exactly.
mircea_popescu: and they're being crunched on the pr side.
mircea_popescu: people familiar with the taking down of gox will perhaps recognise the pattern.
rithm: sounds unviable to me
mircea_popescu: that'd be because it's not viable.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.47979 = 1.4394 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: princessnell how goes.
mircea_popescu: HeySteve: lol peter schiff has changed his tune about bitcoin << but obviously no apology.
princessnell: mircea_popescu well enough. assigned to project about how bitcoin will help the poors.
mircea_popescu: princessnell: heysteve they will be first in line for redemption after the rev << i was going to say something like that.
mircea_popescu: princessnell that is pretty fucktarded. why are you wasting your time ?
mircea_popescu: do something useful.
BingoBoingo: princessnell: It will help them by providing better masters.
princessnell: i know i know
mircea_popescu: enough said then.
princessnell: well, i'm also lurking here so it's not a total waste rite rite
BingoBoingo: Also by boosting the sales of sharpie markers
mircea_popescu: cgcardona there's no way you can't buy gold directly from miners in australia
mircea_popescu: i refuse to believe
cgcardona: w/ bitcoin. not w/ a service i'm aware of. but sure potentially
cgcardona: plus I'm only looking for some small collectibles. nothing at scale.
cgcardona: *collectables
mircea_popescu: rithm: it killed 'em for 35$ and now it kills them at $19 << epic lmao.
mircea_popescu: cgcardona ah i c.
mircea_popescu: get fluffypony to ship you some krugerrands
fluffypony: or buy some physical dogecoins
fluffypony: they'll be a collectors item in 3 years
mircea_popescu: or buy the people holding doge coins.
kakobrekla: they have those now?
pankkake: physical dogecoins, a real shibe with a private key tatooed in the ear?
mircea_popescu: they'll be worthless in 3 years, but they can suck you off in the meanwhile.
fluffypony: https://shibemint.com
assbot: Shibe Mint
cgcardona: I can send back some kahealani niihau ;-]
fluffypony: just minted coins, not actual Dogecoins
HeySteve: I looked at shipping krugerrands but there's a low allowance on what one can send annually
cgcardona: shibe mint -epic fluffypony
pankkake: fluffypony: meh.
HeySteve: I believe any number of gold rounds can be sent, but insurance and shipping charges will be steep
mircea_popescu: HeySteve i imagine the amagi / coinabul / whoever else pays the same exact fees
cgcardona: i'm positive that whichever one was recently on Reddit/bitcoin (i think amagi) requires min of 200oz of silver cause I checked that day.
HeySteve: hmm, that's true. I've been meaning to follow up on gold for bitcoin, we don't mine silver here though
kakobrekla: 10 bux for 1 doge
kakobrekla: not a scam as such.
cgcardona: ha
mircea_popescu: pretty ugly fucking things
mircea_popescu: thye look like they were designed by a 15yo with a pirated illustrator.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: sounds about right
mircea_popescu: fluffypony so the anarkitty character never said a word huh.
fluffypony: nope
mircea_popescu: weird.
HeySteve: lol @ physical dogecoins. so bad it's good, I want one
ThickAsThieves: Sup
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: How was Amsterdam
ThickAsThieves: pretty cool
cgcardona: more like amsterDAMN
ThickAsThieves: got a cold though
ThickAsThieves: almost over it
ThickAsThieves: all that inhaling i guess
cgcardona: :)
cgcardona: i was there in 2005 for the high times cannabis cup. i'd like to go back when it's warmer
cgcardona: and not with high times.
ThickAsThieves: had to turn down a few government jobs since my visit ;)
cgcardona: heh
ThickAsThieves: the weather was great
cgcardona: not the fbi anymore ! http://gizmodo.com/the-fbi-is-struggling-to-hire-hackers-who-dont-smoke-we-1579183208
assbot: The FBI Is Struggling to Hire Hackers Who Don't Smoke Weed
ThickAsThieves: it didnt get very cold at night so everyone was out all night
ThickAsThieves: many lights shining on the canals
ThickAsThieves: etc
cgcardona: damn I'm jealous. sounds great
moiety: i hope you took pictures ThickAsThieves
ThickAsThieves: not really
ThickAsThieves: just some lame conference ones
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.00093352 = 15.1697 BTC [+] {4}
moiety: :[ but but lights
ThickAsThieves: i'm not one for scenery pictures
ThickAsThieves: enough people out there documenting everything now
ThickAsThieves: dont need my pictures of pretty lights
cgcardona: God the Pretty Lights show I say in Dec in SF was off the freaking hook
cgcardona: he was touring w/ a full band. Very insane.
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: wb
ThickAsThieves: i started writing an elaborate theory about systems and economies and bitcoin and reputation
ThickAsThieves: need to go back and see if it was high genius or just highness
BingoBoingo: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/05/26/140526fa_fact_labi
assbot: Nadya Labi: How a Militia Grew on a Military Base : The New Yorker
chetty: eBay today revealed that attackers "compromised a database containing encrypted passwords and other non-financial data" between late February and early March. The database included names, e-mail addresses, home addresses, phone numbers, and dates of birth.
benkay: no more passwords
benkay: pubkeys only
benkay: everyone must gee pee gee
benkay: "everybody must get hashed"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2014#623021 ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
benkay: (dylan)
chetty: Woman Refused Medicine Because ObamaCare System Says She Is a Man
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The good old days
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: notice that every single time they try a 'wrecker,' he's dumb as a brick.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Of course. They tend to be more open to suggestion.
BingoBoingo: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/14/05/21/1226241/step-toward-liberating-electronic-devices-from-their-power-cords
assbot: Step Toward Liberating Electronic Devices From Their Power Cords - Slashdot
BingoBoingo: Laser Pistol fire in the streets inches closer.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2014#621910 ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
BingoBoingo: According to one soldier interviewed by the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command, “The entire S-2 section”—the intelligence group in Aguigui’s squadron—“had knowledge of Aguigui’s plans and many were willing to be a part of it.”
mircea_popescu: ahh, minty lemonade made out of your own mint from your own garden.
mircea_popescu: by your own womenz from your own basement
mircea_popescu: lief.
ThickAsThieves: so ya'll are leaving Ro huh
mircea_popescu: aye
Duffer1: new zealand sounds nice
ThickAsThieves: do you know where to yet?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00093283 = 3.4515 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: course i know where to
penguirker: New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/05/21/why-garden-so-you-can-write-cheques-to-strippers/
assbot: Why Garden? So You Can Write Cheques To Strippers. | When Bitcoin Met Pete
pankkake: extradited to the USA?
fluffypony: hah hah
mircea_popescu: lol
fluffypony: someone should spread the rumour
mircea_popescu: extradepred
fluffypony: Jimmothy is going to eat it up
ThickAsThieves: leak it to Coindesk
mircea_popescu: well honestly... if i get a bitcoin a day, like weev...
mircea_popescu: why the hell not.
Duffer1: MP is satoshi and is being extradited to US!
Duffer1: i knew it all along
mircea_popescu: i could use some peace and quiet to write.
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin/hr
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves a yes my bad.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.479795 = 1.9192 BTC [+] {2}
fluffypony: Satoshi Nakamoto = SN = NS backwards = N->M and S->P
fluffypony: also, Half Life 3 confirmed
Duffer1: ha
mircea_popescu: sit in the shade 3-4 years, write a coupla books and another 10k trilema posts, come out with moar bitcoins than well... hm.
mircea_popescu: i guess im not the right guy for this deal.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00093544 = 8.6996 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: All of the sad girls waiting in your basement...
mircea_popescu: they're coming with, what.
pankkake: on the subject of "where to", blog of a friend: http://countryshopping.blogspot.com/
assbot: Country shopping
mircea_popescu: airplane has a cargo hold for a reason.
mircea_popescu: lol turdsicle
punkman: moving the harem can't be easy
mircea_popescu: why ? they keep in shape, lithe gals.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0225 = 0.1125 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: http://thebitcoinnews.co.uk/2014/05/21/belgium-bans-bitcoin-financial-products-in-bitcoin-prohibted-deadline-july1st/
assbot: Belgium bans Bitcoin Financial products in Bitcoin prohibted – deadline July1st | The Bitcoin News - Decentralised Bitcoin and Crypto News
fluffypony: this is good news!
pankkake: "Goofy drama aside - wish him all the best. Even if controversial, would donate to a legal fund aimed at preventing extradition and assume a good few others would, too."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.10838749 = 0.4335 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Link?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 530 @ 0.00425481 = 2.255 BTC [+] {8}
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=553092.msg6858224#msg6858224
assbot: MPEx owner in danger of being extradited to US to face charges
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00093566 = 5.0993 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 150 @ 0.00570066 = 0.8551 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: lol
asciilifeform: pankkake: that forum still exists? and, what does one have to smoke, to make sense of it ?
pankkake: should be subtitled "for entertainment only"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00093283 = 7.2761 BTC [-]
Duffer1: Transistor is my new favorite thing, this game is amazin
Duffer1: g
pankkake: someone sent me 0.001 BTC to an address I only used to widthdraw from Cryptsy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00443 = 0.1728 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2505 @ 0.00093283 = 2.3367 BTC [-]
mike_c: that's expensive tracer dust
mircea_popescu: pankkake apparently kluge reads the logs. who knewe.
mircea_popescu: in other news, https://twitter.com/skgreen/status/469179655954915328
assbot: "You are more likely to die in a plane crash than click on a banner ad." /msweezey at /hashtag/wistiafest?src=hash
princessnell: ;;later tell bitcoinpete hayek and #b-a is a killer combo
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pankkake: mike_c: yeah, and it doesn't trace anything now. paid for more than the tx fee to move it
mircea_popescu: i don't grasp the concept of "tracer dust" anyway.
mike_c: heh :)
mircea_popescu: what's it supposed to do again ?
mike_c: mingle with your funds? see where they go?
mircea_popescu: oh in the sense it's going to end up in a composite tx ?
mike_c: but why couldn't they just do that with the funds already there.
mircea_popescu: exactly.
pankkake: that would only make sense if the address was empty, but used before, I guess
pankkake: but in that case, it wasn't
mircea_popescu: i suppose you can inadvertently show two addresses as being in the same wallet, this way. except a) why would you not keep multiple wallets if you want this and b) why wouldn't you fake it just to mess with the tracer
mircea_popescu: not like either is hard to od
pankkake: https://twitter.com/skgreen/status/469179655954915328 that's the one
assbot: "You are more likely to die in a plane crash than click on a banner ad." /msweezey at /hashtag/wistiafest?src=hash
pankkake: uh, wrong copypaste
pankkake: https://blockchain.info/tx/771a80f9c62f971a8dd02fa342f5c1856c8b39a7d5d7feb527489984f651670a
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 771a80f9c62f971a8dd02fa342f5c1856c8b39a7d5d7feb527489984f651670a
mike_c: some kind of dividend payment?
pankkake: but doesn't explain why I got it
fluffypony: did you buy shares in their mining thing?
thestringpuller: I'm going to go to build a bear and build a fluffypony
fluffypony: SWEET
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 638 @ 0.0009308 = 0.5939 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 37 @ 0.12856755 = 4.757 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00443 = 0.1418 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2014/05/wang-indictment.pdf
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.000932 = 6.99 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 200 @ 0.03942322 = 7.8846 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2890 @ 0.00011599 = 0.3352 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2026 @ 0.00093079 = 1.8858 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.000932 = 5.592 BTC [+]
chetty: http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/05/21/barron-boston-court-appeals-vote-column/9376913/
assbot: Drone memo author doesn't understand justice : Column
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 237 @ 0.095 = 22.515 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.095 = 9.5 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: !up stompysteve
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 58 @ 0.095 = 5.51 BTC [+]
stompysteve: did i get a voice because you like my name :) lol
HeySteve: forward, steve army
mike_c: i count 4 mikes in channel. bring it steve army.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00093072 = 2.9783 BTC [-]
stompysteve: ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ
HeySteve: steve army may be outnumbered but never outwitted!
stompysteve: plus steve is a better name
mike_c: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 301960 | Current Difficulty: 8.8534163091278E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 302399 | Next Difficulty In: 439 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, and 49 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10489485769.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.47953
HeySteve: later gotta get some exercise
thestringpuller: My name is Stevie irl
thestringpuller: lol
thestringpuller: LONG LIVE THE STEVE ARMY!
mike_c: isn't stevie a girl's name?
pankkake: there's a fair amount of davids too
pankkake: at least you're not steevy http://cdn2-public.ladmedia.fr/var/public/storage/images/look/beaute-coaching/coiffure-de-star-les-pires-coupes-des-mecs-branches-!-28295/coiffure-de-star-les-cheveux-blond-decolore-de-steevy-boulay-28317/237701-1-fre-FR/Coiffure-de-star-les-cheveux-blond-decolore-de-Steevy-Boulay_portrait_w674.jpg
thestringpuller: mike_c: I thought that would be Stephanie
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 52 @ 0.095 = 4.94 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: and what about Stevie Wonder and Stevie Ray Vaughn?
mike_c: ;;google stevie nicks
gribble: The Nicks Fix - The Official Stevie Nicks Website: <http://rockalittle.com/>; Stevie Nicks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevie_Nicks>; Stevie Nicks Biography - Facts, Birthday, Life Story - Biography.com: <http://www.biography.com/people/stevie-nicks-9542187>
mike_c: stevie wonder's real name is stevland
thestringpuller: Yea so the name is androgynous no?
thestringpuller: my real name is Steven
stompysteve: its me steveieeee, stevie janowski
thestringpuller: lolol
stompysteve: i havnt open bitcoinqt in like 5 months it doesnt show how far i am in verifying blocks any idea how long it will take
stompysteve: i thought it showed you a lil loading bar with how far back you were
stompysteve: nvm it just opened
stompysteve: 33 weeks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]
moiety: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27512421 derp
assbot: BBC News - French rail network admits train blunder
TomServo: sh log
TomServo: hah, oops!
pankkake: SNCF Fret, the business transport of SNCF, also often manages to *lose* cars
pankkake: SNCF Fret is an endless… trainwreck
moiety: lose cars?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.4798 = 1.4394 BTC [+]
princessnell: ;;later tell bitcoinpete on second thought wade has way bigger balls than i gave him credit for http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/primate-diaries/2014/05/21/on-the-origin-of-white-power/ & http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-notes-80/
assbot: On the Origin of White Power | The Primate Diaries, Scientific American Blog Network
assbot: Outside in - Involvements with reality » Blog Archive » Quote notes (#80)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: you're steeped in stevie
asciilifeform: can't resist asking, mircea_popescu's ship has net access ?
mircea_popescu: stompysteve Current Blocks: 301960
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dun dun dun
mircea_popescu: this is just scheduled ircing. my ai power is so great, i have prepared responses in advance to anything you might inquire
jborkl_: so the Bitcoin foundatation spends $150k a month
mod6: ikr!
rithm: /s/spends/blows
jborkl_: so in 18 months they will be broke, sounds exactly correct as far as vc logic goes
rithm: lighting cigars with fresh hundreds can get expensive though amirite
mike_c: mp's irc ai: why did bitcoin go up?
jborkl_: well, the foundation will be broke, heh
fluffypony: I guess they're counting on a meteoric rise in BTC value
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.095 = 1.33 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Spencish/Lets%20Play/LetsPlay_06032010_171815.jpg
mircea_popescu: mike_c because perianne wanted to short it.
jborkl_: has the foundation even been around a year?
rithm: yes
mircea_popescu: jborkl_ bout a year and a half
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is that an old indy from like the 386 era ?
jborkl_: and how many people have they been trhough/resigned already? heh
rithm: they duped me out a few btc for their initial endowment
rithm: like the report says
mircea_popescu: the ark one ? where you can use the whip on the annoying chick in the original university setting ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aye. 'atlantis.' http://www.talking-time.net/showthread.php?t=9407&page=3
assbot: Selling More Fine Leather Jackets! Lets Play Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis! - Page 3 - The Return of Talking Time
mircea_popescu: aye
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that very same.
mircea_popescu: orichalcum fucking beads
rithm: hey bitcointalk.org forums have a large operating tho iirc
rithm: thermos gonna regulate
rithm: budget/donations
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4798 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: princessnell he gets blown out of the water pretty thoroughly in that sciam piece.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.479999 = 2.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]
princessnell: mircea_popescu i mean its a masterful smear if that's what yr getting at
asciilifeform opens window, smells felinine. wonders how one street can support 200 housecats.
mircea_popescu: i've never read his book. but! the notions that a) there's three races ; b) that "whites" are in any sense "English" or c) that somehow passivity and civilisation correlate...
mircea_popescu: these are all massive lols to me
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lotta 30something women with reddit accounts on your street.
asciilifeform: lol!
princessnell: donny, yr out of yr element
mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/
assbot: You are the community. You have all the power of the internet to mold it.
princessnell: the review straight up lies
mircea_popescu: princessnell but pls to inform us. where ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wtf
asciilifeform: how you even found this.
princessnell: mircea_popescu are you asking for a competent review?
mircea_popescu: princessnell sure. alternatively, for backing of the "straight lies" theory
asciilifeform: #23: 'I've got fungi everywhere and I cannot take it anymore (ranting)'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform women. everything i find, women.
princessnell: mircea_popescu ok, second one is easier.
princessnell: '"Wade does not say Caucasians are better per se, merely better adapted (because of their genes) to the modern economic institutions that Western society has created, and which now dominate the world’s economy and culture." < lie
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your pet creatures read this heathen pit ?
mircea_popescu: princessnell you will notice that this wasn't on my list of three things. i discarded it as stupid anyway
mircea_popescu: i got enough of a filter for that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why shouldn't they ?
princessnell: got it
princessnell: ok: yr three things
princessnell: a) race is a degree of genetic relatedness. as such there is no limit to the number of categories you can create (alternatively no maximum that bounds it). wade painstakingly explains his use of "three races" heuristic and provides ample genetic evidence to support.
asciilifeform: #100 - 'In 2014, The Classical World Still Can't Stop Fat-Shaming Women'
princessnell: b) i have no idea where you got that from
asciilifeform: a full minute and still couldn't crack the enigma, where the classical world is hiding in 2014
asciilifeform: had to click
mircea_popescu: princessnell i got b from the slide. "He then explains why white people are better because of their genes. " mutates into "The second problem with Wade’s argument about the gentility of the English". this to me indicated the original fails to distinguish.
asciilifeform: http://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/261u88/i_miss_being_an_escort_just_need_to_vent/
assbot: I miss being an escort. Just need to vent. : TwoXChromosomes
mircea_popescu: but for the record : english *speakers*, in which category *both* uk and us citizenry are minorities, is in its turn a minority in european affairs.
mircea_popescu: which are a majority but not a supermajority of whiteness
princessnell: mircea_popescu a farewell to alms was strengthened by the son also rises
princessnell: the reviewer is conflating to mislead
mircea_popescu: anyway, a race is not merely a degree of genetic relatedness. a race is a culturally recognised such degree. which is why you can't make the nell race just by having a lot of kids with random people.
princessnell: that is the point of the book! genes + cultural social behaviors
mircea_popescu: aite.
mircea_popescu: anyway, as far as white is concerned, the bulgarians are probably more important than the us folk.
mircea_popescu: which you know... i strongly suspek neither reviewer nor reviewee even heard of to begin with
thestringpuller: http://www.maxfarquar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Oh-Fuck.png
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: http://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/2619fn/i_am_a_failure_as_a_woman/
assbot: I am a failure as a woman. : TwoXChromosomes
asciilifeform used to read reddit. http://www.reddit.com/user/asciilifeform - but maxed out dosimeter.
assbot: overview for asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: were you kicked out for spamming from there too ?
asciilifeform: unfortunately not.
fluffypony: holy cow, 8 years
fluffypony: old guard
asciilifeform: reddit used to be sorta-ok
mircea_popescu: yes, before it became popular.
asciilifeform: back in.. '07 ?
fluffypony: eternal september
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2995 @ 0.000932 = 2.7913 BTC [+]
jborkl_: added next diff, block found by- still adding pool info have about half- finishing up live charting of btce,bitstamp and btcchina
asciilifeform still thinks the name stands for 'red edit'
asciilifeform: (☭)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10756 @ 0.00093162 = 10.0205 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.0009312 = 4.1904 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.095 = 0.95 BTC [+]
princessnell: speaking of women and bitcoin and reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/265e7s/my_soon_to_be_wife_wants_a_percentage_of_my/
assbot: My soon to be wife wants a percentage of my bitcoin holdings, what to do? : Bitcoin
rithm: run!
fluffypony: that thread is full of ridiculousness
mod6: yeah, srsly, run fast.
fluffypony: why
fluffypony: an ANC with accrual sorts that out
rithm: my wife of x years has no interest in mine
rithm: why does his non-wife of 0 years so interested
fluffypony: my assets were established in our ANC before we got married, and so were my wife's
mike_c: this seems like an easy problem. give her whatever percentage she wants and adjust the amount of coin she knows about accordingly.
mircea_popescu: princessnell pretty clear trollbait neh ?
fluffypony: if we get divorced those declared assets in the ANC cannot be touched, fin.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony you live in a sane country.
fluffypony: apparently
davout: fluffypony: what's an ANC ?
mircea_popescu: like a prenup
fluffypony: davout: Antenuptual Contract
davout: ok
mircea_popescu: nuptial
fluffypony: that thing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0225505 = 0.2255 BTC [-] {2}
davout: who needs that now we have bitcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: afaik you can't get one in the uk
fluffypony: davout: at this juncture you still have to have some semblance of compliance with the law of the land...but I'd be interested to see a landmark case where the wife demands her portion of BTC and the husband refuses to hand over privkeys
mike_c: if i get a divorce i get 50% of her WoW gold
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0225004 = 0.1125 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.032502 = 0.1625 BTC [-] {2}
mike_c: plus all the best armor
mircea_popescu: lmao
jborkl: if you cant spend them they are not yours is the old saying in bitcoin rt
fluffypony: mike_c: so basically you'll be rich
mircea_popescu: fluffypony virtually so.
davout: i'm required to share assets, not multiply arbitrary secret numbers in case of divorce :-)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 33 @ 0.095 = 3.135 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: anyway. the entire prenup thing is ridiculous in the west because of this "can't be unconscionable" approach to contract law.
mircea_popescu: so you know, it won't protect you, but you can have the piece of paper if you wish.
fluffypony: which is silly
fluffypony: I'm glad I live in a country where if someone burns themselves with coffee at McDonalds the best they can do is write a complaint on Hello Peter (customer service site) and get a form response from McDonalds
fluffypony: "We are so sorry to hear you burnt your gonads. Please accept this coupon for a Large Quarter Pounder with Cheese."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 437 @ 0.095 = 41.515 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 21 @ 0.0225 = 0.4725 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 96 @ 0.095 = 9.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 90 @ 0.095 = 8.55 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: pls to not have children who you also feed our poison to
fluffypony: lol
bitcoinpete: in other good news, our fair province is unstrapping itself to the usa and restrapping itself to china
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/469207764590284801
assbot: Keystone XL can't stop Alberta oil. TransMountain and Northern Gateway pivot towards China. http://t.co/QskpaWmKkB
bitcoinpete: we do want to matter!
mike_c: sorry, it would take some serious tectonic shifts for that to happen.
rithm: china and russia have vowed to destoy the petrodollar yo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.0009347 = 4.58 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: mike_c: and happening they are
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 493.47, Best ask: 493.56, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 493.56, 24 hour volume: 7875.02991908, 24 hour low: 484.09, 24 hour high: 499.1, 24 hour vwap: 492.207013094
benkay: y'all are asshats. my girl's got her own btc.
bitcoinpete: rithm: mos def.
bitcoinpete: benkay: a whole one? that's like an hour's prison time
benkay: singular plurlol
mircea_popescu: lol
rithm: poor usa :(
rithm: moar CNG fracking plz!
benkay: i'm the one going to jail.
benkay: she's going to have to get the brood and honored grandparents to ars.
bitcoinpete: benkay: you can't blame the states for that one
mike_c: bitcoinpete: i didn't mean tectonic as a metaphor. you're attached.
benkay: cannot be done with frozen assets.
bitcoinpete: mike_c: attached with thousands of kilometers of nothing in between.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40200 @ 0.0009357 = 37.6151 BTC [+] {6}
bitcoinpete: we have buffer for days
mike_c: we probably would get lost in the woods
bitcoinpete: ya, we're like russia without the cultural history
asciilifeform: why did the idiot (if real rather than hypothetical) tell the wife (?) about his coin ?
bitcoinpete: to get to the other side?
asciilifeform: 'not caught, not thief'
rithm: communications sensitive type
rithm: "shares"
mike_c: telling about is inevitable (as you know). now amounts..
rithm: sharing and providing are two completely different things
rithm: kinda how the ceo provides a paycheck and only shares what is relevant
rithm: buy let's be real ceo's don't provide anything of value tho amirite
benkay: <mike_c> telling about is inevitable (as you know). now amounts.. // i share allocation to the nearest ten percent, updated once per...year. at most.
benkay: and in buckets only of low and high risk
bitcoinpete: http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2014/05/20/chip-bergh-levi-strauss/?xid=timerail
assbot: Levi Strauss CEO: Stop washing your jeans - Fortune Tech
mike_c: my wife knows two things. 1) i'm not telling her. 2) i'm not going to divorce her. so it works out.
bitcoinpete: "So, was Tuesday’s 10% leap in the bitcoin price triggered by good news – the favorable comments about bitcoin from a Fed advisory board, perhaps, or news of Circle’s launch at the Bitcoin 2104 conference?" << bwahahaha
bitcoinpete: fucking wsj bitbeat
bitcoinpete: yes, i'm sure it was all circle hype
bitcoinpete: or maybe it was news that the us was charging chinese spies with shit
benkay: or the bears could just be done.
benkay: but please, let's all opine more about what's driving the day's market irrationality.
bitcoinpete: humans love stories almost as much as we love fucking
mike_c: more like "humans" freak out when they don't understand something. when people ask me about why the market moved I give them the time-tested answer: God.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.0009312 = 8.567 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: mike_c: the contemporary version is: science.
bitcoinpete: http://www.coindesk.com/budweiser-coinbase-partner-free-bitcoin-concert-attendees/
assbot: Budweiser, Coinbase Partner to Give Free Bitcoin to Concert Attendees
bitcoinpete: these muricans need to stop giving away $10 of coin here and $10 there. strippers are a waaay better investment
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.129 = 0.645 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.0009312 = 11.0813 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.095 = 0.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1263 @ 0.00011921 = 0.1506 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: <bitcoinpete> yes, i'm sure it was all circle hype << dudes wanna matter. who's to tell them they won't ?
mircea_popescu: if someone were to tell them, why'd they listen ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 190 @ 0.095 = 18.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 288 @ 0.095 = 27.36 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: seems like people either show up here or disappear and not a lot in between
moiety: i think freenode had another fit
moiety: and am i the only nonmarried person left on the planet
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 68 @ 0.095 = 6.46 BTC [+]
moiety: mp doesn't count, he has too many to marry
bitcoinpete: ;;later tell princessnell thanks for the reads!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
bitcoinpete: benkay ain't married. yet
moiety: as good as
bitcoinpete: don't think BingoBoingo is
moiety: he's a dark horse, you never know with him
bitcoinpete: or danielpbarron
bitcoinpete: maybe thestringpuller is solo?
bitcoinpete: then there's always gribble
moiety: no one would marry gribble the amount you have to fucking auth
moiety: tho, lasers....
mircea_popescu: moiety i ain't married.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete sure he is.
moiety: you don't count, you have too many to marry!
mircea_popescu: i don't count because cunt ?
moiety: no i meant you couldn't marry them all
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: this, i did not know about gribs
moiety: i suppose i will just have to get more cats and read reddit more
bitcoinpete: oh man, there's a new forum! http://forum.ltbcoin.com
assbot: The LTB Network Forum
bitcoinpete: time for some lulz mining
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moiety: is it just me that gets really bored of reddit?
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jurov: it's not just you
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bitcoinpete: it's asciilifeform that's the big moldbug fan, right?
asciilifeform: bitcoinpete: i wouldn't go so far.
asciilifeform: i did read all of mr. mold, yes.
bitcoinpete: a ok. just a few articles then?
bitcoinpete: that you're a fan of...
asciilifeform: aye
asciilifeform: mostly, of a subset of the basic ideas therein.
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bitcoinpete: i found a little piece that goes into his background a bit. probably not news for you, but perhaps for some others here: http://thebaffler.com/blog/2014/05/mouthbreathing_machiavellis
assbot: Mouthbreathing Machiavellis Dream Of A Silicon Reich | Blog | The Baffler
asciilifeform: lol
bitcoinpete: "In short, Moldbug reads like an overconfident autodidact’s imitation of a Lewis Lapham essay—if Lewis Lapham were a fascist teenage Dungeon Master."
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bitcoinpete: the rest of the article is about some anticapitalist tranarchist (transgender anarchist) who became a hard-right seditionist and created a petition to put eric schmidt in the white house as "ceo of america"
asciilifeform: bitcoinpete: read that turd; kept waiting for the seemingly-obligatory mention of 'galt's gulch' - disappointed! not there!
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bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: lol maybe in part 2 of this epic series
asciilifeform: the anti-moldbug pieces (yes there's more than one) typically accuse mold & co. of the ultimate anti-democratic crime: republikflucht.
asciilifeform: ;;google republikflucht
gribble: Republikflucht - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republikflucht>; User:A13ean/Work on Republikflucht - Wikipedia, the free ...: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:A13ean/Work_on_Republikflucht>; Crossing the Line: Republikflucht between Defection and Migration ...: (1 more message)
asciilifeform: 'how dare you contemplate a refusal to be harvested.'
bitcoinpete: 'sit still!'
HeySteve: "so spurious it was deleted from wikipedia." lol
HeySteve: checking out this Moldbug guy, sounds interesting
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://transition.fcc.gov/eb/AmateurActions/Welcome.html << interesting u.s. gov. 'wall of shame' for radio traffic violators
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://transition.fcc.gov/eb/AmateurActions/files/Grow_13_04_19_5321.html << particularly interesting are the 'name withheld' complaints, like this one
asciilifeform: http://transition.fcc.gov/eb/AmateurActions/files/X-Box12_04_10_5314.html
dignork: asciilifeform: they where probably underage
asciilifeform: lol
danielpbarron: <+bitcoinpete> or danielpbarron << correct
bitcoinpete: haha!
bitcoinpete: ^ moiety