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mircea_popescu: just in case someone else may get a chuckle out of this :
mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/2841S6uF
assbot: Bitcoin Pete @bitcoinpete 3h @bendavenport @coindesk You too, Ben? Where did - Pastebin.com
mircea_popescu: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 17 minutes and 27 seconds
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wCgZh-nczY
assbot: Dakh Daughters "Rozy / Donbass" (live acoustic) - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.02300654 = 0.4601 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00099859 = 12.9817 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 4 @ 0.138 = 0.552 BTC [+]
mike_c: ok, that's creepy.
mircea_popescu: http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2014/05/lousy-recoveries
assbot: Lousy recoveries: No one (important) wants faster growth | The Economist
mircea_popescu: possibly the most retarded article of the week, yet standard fare in today's "climate change" style of pseudo-ecinomics
mircea_popescu: !up slashme
slashme: WHOAS
mircea_popescu: "The bitter truth is that central banks launch economies off the ZLB when politicians force them to. This was true of many economies in the 1930s, it seems like it will be true of Japan, and there is every indication that it will prove true of Europe and America. The ZLB is not an economic problem. It's not about deleveraging or inflation targets. It is a political problem. Preventing the kind of crisis and recovery is
mircea_popescu: easy: just have a political majority committed to something different. "
mircea_popescu: something different aka, let's all be rich permanently for free.
mircea_popescu: seems like a great commitment.
xanthyos: WHOAS ya
mircea_popescu: xanthyos try again, in a language ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00099859 = 7.9887 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 439.16, Best ask: 439.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.74000, Last trade: 439.9, 24 hour volume: 5856.32329823, 24 hour low: 430.61, 24 hour high: 442.74, 24 hour vwap: 437.258929729
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00100164 = 11.9696 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: "The argument here would be that unconventional policy might be just as effective as conventional policy, but if the Fed is less willing to use it then the ZLB still represents a constraint. " LoL sentence
decimation: If only we could charge people for saving money - imagine the heights of absurdity to which we could steer the currency!
mircea_popescu: all you really need is for 1 = 2. after that, everything is one single step away.
BingoBoingo: In this way Bitcoin has stronger regulation than the USD ever can.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00099852 = 9.436 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: +1
mircea_popescu: "but all you really need is for the politicians to decide otherwise!111"
mircea_popescu: really instructive by contrast with actual economy, the economist.
BingoBoingo: Looks like Hanbot took this bet: http://bitbet.us/bet/845/mers-in-us-over-50-cases-before-july/
assbot: BitBet - MERS in US: over 50 cases before July :: 0.54 B (42%) on Yes, 0.76 B (58%) on No | closing in 1 month 1 week| weight: 99`831 (100`000 to 1)
BingoBoingo: Already getting extra action.
TheNewDeal: that one is interesting
mircea_popescu: not a bad bet.
BingoBoingo: contrast to http://bitbet.us/bet/600/tradefortress-arrested/
assbot: BitBet - TradeFortress arrested :: 0.03 B (25%) on Yes, 0.09 B (75%) on No | closed 2 weeks 2 hours ago
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnYdHI3CAAAEG0k.png
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 35 @ 0.0063501 = 0.2223 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/12/glenn-greenwald-uk-arrest-me-edward-snowden-nsa
assbot: Glenn Greenwald: 'I don't trust the UK not to arrest me. Their behaviour has been extreme' | World news | The Guardian
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't trust the uk to anything. it's basically the political equivalent of nevada. an uninhabited wasteland where you test nukes.
mircea_popescu: "But it's true. He wasn't great at encryption. In common with most journalists working today, he had no clue about tools that would have allowed him to communicate with sources privately, without fear of NSA or any other snooping."
mircea_popescu: these people can't math even to the degree of grasping the most basic points of statistics
mircea_popescu: they can't encrypt, they can barely read and rarely comprehend anything
mircea_popescu: yet they still think themselves journalists. what sense does this make ? a guy thgat can't turn on the stove and regularly cooks moldy chicken isn't a cook
mircea_popescu: some dude that can't work a hammer isn't a carpenter
mircea_popescu: why would a bunch of dorks with nary a clue as to the workings of the actual tools of their trade be even for a second taken seriously as "journalists" ?
mircea_popescu: i don't see it.
benkay: evening
moiety: morning
benkay: hey mo :)
benkay: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/05/13/clay-aiken-congress-democratic-primary/9039487/
assbot: Clay Aiken apparent winner of Democratic primary
TheNewDeal: gunna have to test the old bet both ways theory
moiety just woke up
benkay: !up aabtc
benkay: !up agorecki
benkay: agorecki what's your story?
agorecki: benkay: I heard about this channel after mircea saved TrustedBSD, and came here to lurk and see what I could learn
agorecki: I don't think the channel was voice-to-speak only at the time, though
moiety: it's quite a new thing agorecki
BingoBoingo: agorecki: You got your BSD's mixed up
BingoBoingo: agorecki: But yeah, the voicing is new.
agorecki: Ah, right. It was OpenBSD
moiety: i only just learned that myself, while reading the openbsd wikipage. totally epic of him.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00100212 = 7.1151 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: save one bsd, save them all.
benkay: okay so here's a thing.
benkay: i came up in computers in the 'configuration management' epoch, where everyone i knew and everyone i worked with was using some sort of software to manage the state of machines virtual or real metal in some datacenter somewhere.
benkay: what's the equivalent of chef or whatever for migrating from, say, bsd box to bsd box?
benkay: how do i get all the packages i plan to compile from source on my spankin' new bsd box to my next one?
benkay: take a disk image and start the next machine from the old one?
benkay: !up grahvity kdomanski_
benkay: !up kdomanski_
benkay: kakobrekla: why u no multiple arity?
kakobrekla: so you can go
kakobrekla: !up benkay good boy!
benkay: ...
benkay: !up wolverineks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00099757 = 22.6448 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: think you can hold a connection, wolverineks ?
wolverineks: whoops. sorry. low signal out in the woods. ill turn off auto reconnect.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 30 @ 0.00709999 = 0.213 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.07299699 = 1.168 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00100226 = 5.9133 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.03139998 = 0.4082 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 43 @ 0.02166318 = 0.9315 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4769 @ 0.00100256 = 4.7812 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31252 @ 0.00100466 = 31.3976 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00100494 = 18.7421 BTC [+]
moiety: lol kakobrekla!! thats brilliant :D day made
kakobrekla: ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.00100037 = 13.3549 BTC [-]
Naphex: morning
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00100008 = 20.8017 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.02101 = 0.1681 BTC [-] {2}
TheNewDeal: gmorning
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00100008 = 9.5008 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00100145 = 14.4209 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03139998 = 0.314 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 11 @ 0.041 = 0.451 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.138 = 0.276 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5736 @ 0.00099823 = 5.7258 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8393 @ 0.00099714 = 8.369 BTC [-]
TheNewDeal: .d
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00099714 = 12.1651 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.041 = 0.123 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00099714 = 12.3645 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00099714 = 14.309 BTC [-]
fluffypony: this is fascinating
fluffypony: http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~nieh/pubs/asplos2014_cider.pdf
fluffypony: http://pdfnomo.re/asplos2014_cider/ for those that don't like PDFs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44905 = 0.8981 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.440505 = 0.881 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.03139997 = 0.3768 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11074 @ 0.00099995 = 11.0734 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.00670008 = 0.335 BTC [-] {2}
davout: !up Shakespeare
davout: Shakespeare: ohai
Shakespeare: Hello asseteers
Shakespeare: Now reporting from Amsterdam
Shakespeare: I caught up on the log on the plane
Shakespeare: including responding to comments on blog
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.05833396 = 0.175 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.041 = 0.246 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Cool.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11583 @ 0.00099761 = 11.5553 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Don't forget to go rasta.
BingoBoingo: davout: About the dotcoin thing, it's just a matter of watching how he tosses his word salad
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 300 @ 0.041 = 12.3 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/how-a-mayors-quest-to-unmask-a-foul-mouthed-twitter-user-blew-up-in-his-face/
assbot: How a mayors quest to unmask a foul-mouthed Twitter user blew up in his face | Ars Technica
fluffypony: davout: I should've shut my big fat drunk mouth last night
fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602950.msg6715269#msg6715269
assbot: New Shares on Bitcoin Bourse "TXT"
fluffypony: :-P
fluffypony: !up Shakespeare
Shakespeare: thx
fluffypony: Shakespeare: can't you register this nick with gribble and then we can rate it?
fluffypony: ;;ident Shakespeare
gribble: Nick 'Shakespeare', with hostmask 'Shakespeare!d57f9cda@gateway/web/freenode/ip.', is not identified.
Shakespeare: for some reason, this internet connection doesnt let me use IRC
Shakespeare: i have to use webchat
fluffypony: blows
Shakespeare: so i dont care to auth in this locale
Shakespeare: but it's just a coffee shop
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.455 BTC [+]
Shakespeare: hotel will prbly work better
fluffypony: ah ok
fluffypony: you should try the more arcane ports like 8002
fluffypony: afaik all the Freenode servers listen on 8000 / 8001 / 8002
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 53 @ 0.00709 = 0.3758 BTC [+] {2}
Shakespeare: you think i'm some kinda hacker or something?
Shakespeare: up in dem ports
fluffypony: lawlz
Shakespeare: gotta kill 3 more hours...
Shakespeare: before checkin
fluffypony: which airport are you at?
Shakespeare: i'm at a coffee shop, in the city
fluffypony: oh you mean hotel checkin
fluffypony: thought you were waiting for a connecting flight
Shakespeare: yessir
fluffypony: well at least you're in a normal time zone now
fluffypony: :-P
Shakespeare: I purposely bought Lufthansa tickets cuz they are my favorite so far, well the fine print says (United Air)
Shakespeare: some kinda scam
Shakespeare: ended up in old shitty United plane
fluffypony: ah
fluffypony: Star Alliance
Shakespeare: some bullshit
fluffypony: South African Airways is part of that as well
fluffypony: so when we fly SAA to the US
fluffypony: you get conned into believing you're flying SAA all the way
Shakespeare: now i need to start researching the fucking plane to book flights
fluffypony: but the minute they dump you at an airport there all the connecting flights are shitty United flights
Shakespeare: ironically the seats were more comfortable
davout: fluffypony: oh god
fluffypony: davout: I know, I'm sorry :-P
pankkake: https://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/04/29/accounting-for-the-amazing-company-the-bitcointalk-standard/comment-page-1/#comment-882 wait is this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Stolfi ? lol
assbot: Accounting for the Amazing Company. The Bitcointalk standard. | pankkake
assbot: Jorge Stolfi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
pankkake: calm down assbot
fluffypony: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00099643 = 2.9893 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00099491 = 6.4669 BTC [-]
fluffypony: !up Shakespeare
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/768/bitcoin-difficulty-over-21b-before-june/
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty over 21B before June :: 0.02 B (7%) on Yes, 0.26 B (93%) on No | closed 2 days 9 hours ago
mircea_popescu: so people keep clamoring about how the close should be much earlier than the resolution date.
mircea_popescu: then when the close is a month before resolution date, they bet 28 bitcents, 99% less than the average diff bet.
mircea_popescu: herp.
fluffypony: lol
mircea_popescu: classical socialist mindset. fat close buffer means a lot of risk for people betting early, because if something happens they won't be able to cover/adjust for new odds.
mircea_popescu: two bit webtrepreneur figures tis is GREAT because he's thinking of it happening to other people ONLY
mircea_popescu: just like us libtards and taxes, or regulation.
mircea_popescu: when things are changed to accomodate his worldview, then and only then can he see the stuff applying to him. because the libtard has 0 critical thinking ability. unless it's before him, he can't follow a counterfactual.
mircea_popescu: and so... he doesn't want to bet anymore. but now "it's fair", he says, just, no fair he'd want any part of.
mircea_popescu: so he's done fixing california and moves to texas.
mircea_popescu: to make texas "more fair", too, and also liveable.
mircea_popescu: after which he'll move to mexico or w/e, make that fair too.
mircea_popescu: these people should be shot, basically.
mircea_popescu: anyway, fuck that, i'm writing this article.
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 968 @ 0.00310298 = 3.0037 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00099542 = 17.818 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: forgot about that prop
cazalla: i was last to bet eh, oh well
fluffypony: this may be a dumb question, but are your winnings weighted against when you made your bet?
jurov: http://bitbet.us/bet/768/bitcoin-difficulty-over-21b-before-june/ < i completely missed the bet
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty over 21B before June :: 0.02 B (7%) on Yes, 0.26 B (93%) on No | closed 2 days 9 hours ago
pankkake: fluffypony: no. and that would be to easy to exploit
pankkake: hm not sure I understood the question
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.041 = 0.615 BTC [-]
fluffypony: pankkake: I meant that the guys that bet early take the biggest risk
fluffypony: the late-comers already have an indicator
fluffypony: so their winnings should be weighted as "valuable"
pankkake: well yes, that's the weight
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.0009963 = 20.3245 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: just because someone bets early or a lot doesn't mean they have a point.
mircea_popescu: so how do you know they're valuable
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I have nfi, I was just asking
fluffypony: lol
mircea_popescu: i know, but jus' sayin'. it's a signal, but whatg's in a signal. whatsapp selling for 20bn is also a signal.
mircea_popescu: soon to become a signalol.
fluffypony: lol
fluffypony: kakobrekla: am I imagining it or is assbot turning @ into / in tweets?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7481 @ 0.00099326 = 7.4306 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: it is
mircea_popescu: o back under 1 huh
mircea_popescu: well it was quite the ride. i wondere how much of it is due to bitpay's largest ipo ever.
BingoBoingo: BitPay investors hedging their fx risk through BitPay by diversifying into S.MPOE?
BingoBoingo: Or hedging "in case Bitcoin develops the other way"
mircea_popescu: or just wanting to participate or who the hell knows
BingoBoingo: One of the nice things about Bitcoin is that there is so much that simply can't be known.
BingoBoingo: Unless you do everything Hearn suggests.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00099326 = 6.6052 BTC [-]
fluffypony: http://www.coindesk.com/bittylicious-adds-visa-and-mastercard-credit-card-support/
assbot: Bittylicious Adds Visa and MasterCard Credit Card Support
fluffypony: only for EU countries
fluffypony: http://news.msn.com/offbeat/italian-factory-makes-bad-mozzarella-13-arrests
assbot: Italian factory makes bad mozzarella, 13 arrests
fluffypony: "The probe began after a worker lost some of his fingers because of safety flaws."
Naphex: maybe safety laws required no fingers?
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: safetyf laws.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10774 @ 0.00099688 = 10.7404 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.03139997 = 0.6908 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.03139997 = 0.942 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 28 @ 0.03139998 = 0.8792 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12164 @ 0.0009959 = 12.1141 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22984 @ 0.00099386 = 22.8429 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03139998 = 0.2198 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 80 @ 0.041 = 3.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00099703 = 15.1549 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.05517004 = 0.5517 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07392853 = 0.6654 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30915 @ 0.00099298 = 30.698 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00099492 = 1.7411 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.041 = 0.246 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12874 @ 0.00099647 = 12.8286 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00099289 = 6.7517 BTC [-] {2}
artifexd: ;;later tell mircea_popescu Typo in http://trilema.com/2014/these-people-should-be-shot-basically/ Item 21 is missing the leading "B"
assbot: These people should be shot, basically. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
bounce: such haet
artifexd: ;;later tell mircea_popescu Typo in http://trilema.com/2014/these-people-should-be-shot-basically/ Item 23 is missing the leading "B" <-- lol @ my own typo
assbot: These people should be shot, basically. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Maybe, just maybe, assbot might finally catch up to mircea_popescu
thestringpuller: ;;seen benkay
gribble: benkay was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 hours, 12 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <benkay> think you can hold a connection, wolverineks ?
thestringpuller: ;;later tell benkay stop being weeeird
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.041 = 0.41 BTC [-]
benkay: thestringpuller: ?
benkay: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303851804579559071472756120
assbot: Hong Kong's Stock Exchange Receives Summons for Metal Warehousing Complaint - WSJ.com
Azelphur: why do people keep linking that site, baring in mind it's behind a paywall now? here's a non-paywalled article http://www.efinancialnews.com/story/2014-05-13/hong-kong-exchanges-and-clearing-challenged-on-metal-warehousing?ea9c8a2de0ee111045601ab04d673622
assbot: Hong Kong's stock exchange challenged on metal warehousing - Financial News
bounce: search for the headline in google (not, say, ixquick) and you can pass the paywall... for now.
Azelphur: heh
bounce: they're not saying so but apparently the big player(s) are actually shipping metal back'n'forth between their own warehouses to skirt regulations, delay deliveries, and so drive up prices
pankkake: Azelphur: your link is paywalled too, for me at least
Azelphur: wasn't for me :o
Azelphur: oh, nice it un-paywalls if you go through google, these paywall sites suck.
fluffypony: Azelphur: did you visit the link from Google?
fluffypony: oh there you go
fluffypony: WSJ is the same, you visit from Google and it's fine
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15245 @ 0.00099738 = 15.2051 BTC [+]
mike_c: benkay: you ever use ansible?
pankkake: it werks with https://i.imgur.com/JLzPzsd.png
fluffypony: pankkake: such hakker
pankkake: since I block referer by default, had no choice
pankkake: I used to have custom funny referers for friends' sites
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6782 @ 0.00099774 = 6.7667 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0070997 = 0.355 BTC [+]
mike_c: ^ investors liked rent's recent update.
kakobrekla: what was that
mike_c: just a snapshot on where they are at, properties and such. they are claiming NAV of 0.0083 btc per share
kakobrekla: cool
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 24 @ 0.07193522 = 1.7264 BTC [+] {13}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 15 @ 0.0981065 = 1.4716 BTC [+] {8}
benkay: mike_c: not that one in particular, but i'm pretty well versed in configuration mgmt at large. why do you ask?
benkay: hey, rent's a great deal in a bear btc market.
mike_c: curious if you had any experience with it. i am considering trying it out.
benkay: are you running bare metal?
mike_c: um, no? virtual servers.
benkay: just write scripts and shoot them in the head when they get uppity.
mike_c: that's what i have done in the past (largely with fabric). thought maybe i'd get fancy.
benkay: don't get fancy.
mike_c: but automation! magic! it's easier until it doesn't work!
benkay: mhm.
benkay: you know what's entirely adequate automation? bash scripts and an api for terminating uppity instances.
benkay: this for the record you cloud haters is why other peoples machines are great.
benkay: idempotence comes for free.
benkay: "free"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.074 = 0.444 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00099808 = 6.9866 BTC [+]
benkay: !up phish
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.46321873 BTC to 8`673 shares, 28401 satoshi per share
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11290 @ 0.00099808 = 11.2683 BTC [+]
benkay: !up pactr
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.03105611 = 0.3727 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8196 @ 0.00099785 = 8.1784 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.02322594 = 0.1161 BTC [-] {2}
fluffypony: mike_c: if you want to get semi-fancy with less headaches maybe puppet is the way to go?
fluffypony: ansible is awesome, but I found it over-engineered for the relatively simple stuff I need
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20907 @ 0.00099281 = 20.7567 BTC [-]
fluffypony: kinda like how I spent 2 days getting exim4 perfectly setup as an mta for outbound mail when sendmail would be fine
fluffypony: good memories
mike_c: well, scripts are fine for semi-fancy. if i'm going to learn something new i'd rather it be something i want to know going forward. which i think would be ansible over chef/puppet.
fluffypony: yeah if you want to pick up a skill ansible is definitely a better option
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11336 @ 0.00099427 = 11.271 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.074 = 0.222 BTC [+]
bounce: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/13/bitcoin-regulations-idUSL6N0NY4UL20140513
assbot: Bitcoin needs regulatory framework to change risky image| Reuters
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0739653 = 0.1479 BTC [-]
fluffypony: dat risqué image
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.095 = 0.95 BTC [-] {2}
FabianB: "The Bitcoin Foundation aims to standardise the currency" <-- are there different bitcoins?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20038 @ 0.00099227 = 19.8831 BTC [-] {2}
bounce: blue, and green, and redlisted, and whatnot. well, if the foundation has its way at least.
fluffypony: FabianB: haven't you heard - Bitcoin 2.0 is coming
FabianB: so they want to anti-standardise
fluffypony: MaidSafe was Bitcoin 2.0
fluffypony: then sidechains was Bitcoin 2.0
bounce: next you'll need a bitcoin transmission licence to send (or receive) more than 1 bitcoin per day
Apocalyptic: bounce, these derps...
FabianB: or even carry more than one
fluffypony: I think coloured coins was Bitcoin 2.0 at one point
bounce: hey, they got elected in fair vote! can't be that bad, can they?
Apocalyptic: fluffypony, now it's NXT i think
fluffypony: maybe African-American coins are the way of the future
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: probably
Apocalyptic: not that i follow that scene that much
rithm: derp
rithm: if the foundation wants to do it, it must be bad
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00099134 = 6.7411 BTC [-]
punkman: if you ever run out of lols... https://www.dhs.gov/dhs-daily-open-source-infrastructure-report
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00099083 = 17.3395 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: https://www.contributoria.com/issue/2014-05/5319c4add63a707e780000cd
assbot: Whats the evidence on using rational argument to change peoples minds? : May 2014 : Contributoria - community funded, collaborative journalism
kakobrekla: fluffypony re twitter, thats what the output from htmldom came to be, i havent bothered to check the details at all :)
fluffypony: ah k
fluffypony: I wonder if it's not some weird utf-8 oddity that's causing it
kakobrekla: no clue but is it an issue, its not like @ its going to 'work'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 21 @ 0.02353799 = 0.4943 BTC [+] {2}
fluffypony: not an issue, just makes some of the tweets read weirdly
kakobrekla: so its not an issue only that it is
fluffypony: exactly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.074 = 0.518 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7818 @ 0.00099015 = 7.741 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 23 @ 0.041 = 0.943 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14365 @ 0.00099013 = 14.2232 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07397821 = 0.6658 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00099013 = 17.1292 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 48 @ 0.00680008 = 0.3264 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12571 @ 0.00099011 = 12.4467 BTC [-] {2}
fluffypony: http://thedoghousediaries.com/comics/uncategorized/2014-05-12-b3b3939.png
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00099427 = 12.5278 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03139999 = 0.2826 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.02449366 = 0.3184 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/05/14/first-largest-bestest-ever-in-the-us/
assbot: First! Largest! Bestest! Ever! In The US | When Bitcoin Met Pete
artifexd: This has been running smoothly for a while now so I'll share it here: ##bitbet-rt ☟︎
pankkake: cool
artifexd: Since it is kinda slow, this is what the past 12-ish hours looked like: http://dpaste.com/0QNY970/
assbot: dpaste: 0QNY970
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 64 @ 0.03139999 = 2.0096 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: nice artifexd
pankkake: does it show comments too?
artifexd: ty
artifexd: No. Just bets created and bets placed.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 33 @ 0.041 = 1.353 BTC [-]
artifexd: If kakobrekla creates a feed for comments, I'll add them.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.132 = 0.264 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: coolness artifexd
kakobrekla: !up artifexd double voice for you
artifexd: lol
thestringpuller: !down kakobrekla
thestringpuller: lol
thestringpuller: jkjkjk
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03139999 = 0.2512 BTC [+]
fluffypony: "thestringpuller's Guide to Losing Voice in #bitcoin-assets - A Compendium"
thestringpuller: ppffft kakobrekla got mah back
thestringpuller: except in a knife fight
fluffypony: lol
thestringpuller: thestringpuller's guide to pulling strings
thestringpuller: lol
fluffypony: now that I'd pay for
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5007 @ 0.00099011 = 4.9575 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-14/francis-bacon-portrait-of-companion-fetches-80-8-million.html
assbot: Billionaires Help Christies to Record $745 Million Sale - Bloomberg
bitcoinpete: warhol's riot fetched $62M, up 23.3% compounded annually since last sold in 1992.
bitcoinpete: there's your inflation
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00098986 = 9.7501 BTC [-]
fluffypony: bitcoinpete
fluffypony: I don't get the Ohio thing
fluffypony: what am I missing?
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: must be where angellist is based
bitcoinpete: or davenport is from
fluffypony: oic
bitcoinpete: what ohio has to do with anything isn't clear to me either lol
fluffypony: glad there wasn't some important back story I was missing
artifexd: Isn't that were the20year is doing his RENT thing?
bitcoinpete: i think the world is missing this back story
fluffypony: I don't get why the maths is so hard for them
fluffypony: the world's most expensive pizza will always be the 10k BTC pizza
fluffypony: forever
bitcoinpete: either way, we're nearing the end of americans walking on the streets in berlin and telling people what state they're from
fluffypony: because nobody will ever pay more for that in BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.041 = 0.123 BTC [-]
fluffypony: and as the tweet pointed out, 30k BTC > 20k BTC
fluffypony: the USD exchange rate at the time being rather irrelevant
Apocalyptic: "30k BTC > 20k BTC" dat statement
bitcoinpete: it's like the wright brothers paying 6 airplanes for a pizza, now us wondering how many 787s that is
bitcoinpete: ok not quite...
fluffypony: heh
kakobrekla: a btc in a btc irrelevant of timespace
bitcoinpete: it's more like the art market
kakobrekla: spacetime
kakobrekla: whatever.
fluffypony: Inspector Spacetime?
bitcoinpete: there's only one of calder's poisson volant
kakobrekla: inspector speculum
bitcoinpete: speculator inspectum
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.074 = 0.222 BTC [+]
bounce: inspector gadget
bitcoinpete: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-13/bitcoin-bingo-what-ticker-will-the-winklevii-pick-for-their-etf-.html
assbot: Bitcoin Bingo: What Ticker Will the Winklevii Pick for Their ETF? - Bloomberg
bitcoinpete: everyone wants to know!
fluffypony: the tension!
Apocalyptic: sigh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4549999 BTC [+]
mike_c: oh, fu facebook. i get it.
mike_c: took a minute
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00098967 = 12.9647 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07499986 = 0.6 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 243 @ 0.00098986 = 0.2405 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/04/20/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/#comment-329
assbot: The Brokenness of MaidSafe | When Bitcoin Met Pete
bitcoinpete: someone's not happy...
mike_c: what 8 years is he talking about?
bitcoinpete: the 8 years maidsafe spent "working" and "pitching vcs"
bitcoinpete: being unsuccessful in accomplishing anything productive in that time
bitcoinpete: but y'know, they tried
bitcoinpete: and toured the world
bitcoinpete: and derped
mike_c: you should tell him it's a really fucking stupid name too.
pankkake: is there an explanation for the name? it sounds like something against the evil maid attack, but isn't
bitcoinpete: maybe it has something to do with rosie, the jetsons' maid
mike_c: Massive Array of Internet Disks Something something something
bitcoinpete: that works too
danielpbarron: your data is "made safe" by their service (that's what I assumed it meant)
bitcoinpete: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48itJfUr8ZM
assbot: The Jetsons 1963 - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20266 @ 0.00099422 = 20.1489 BTC [+] {2}
mike_c: "It's an acronym; "Massive Array of Internet Disks, Secure Access For Everyone"."
danielpbarron: they should work for congress
bitcoinpete: bbl
kakobrekla: but if you gotta pay for it, just buy a server ?
kakobrekla: not that im saying stuff you wouldnt pay for is worth saving
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.02350366 = 0.3526 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 28 @ 0.02348994 = 0.6577 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.03139999 = 0.3454 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 31 @ 0.03139999 = 0.9734 BTC [+] {3}
bounce: http://readwrite.com/2014/05/13/mobile-wallets-reality
assbot: Let's Face Facts: Mobile Wallets Are Doomed – ReadWrite
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4399001 BTC [-]
artifexd: http://bitbet.us/bet/846/ <- first time I've seen a bet before the initial two bets were placed.
assbot: BitBet - Clay Aiken to win in NC :: 0 B (50%) on Yes, 0 B (50%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 100`000 (100`000 to 1)
mike_c: quick, get the best weight!
kakobrekla: yeah i was just typing it in the other chan only to get muted :)
bounce: oooh seekrit channels where kako gets muted
kakobrekla: :D
mike_c: kako got muted in all the channels, that's why he made his own :)
kakobrekla: ...
kakobrekla: keep em comming now
mike_c: next is his own forums :D
artifexd: I should probably change the topic to point people to here if they want to discuss it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 223 @ 0.0042203 = 0.9411 BTC [-] {5}
kakobrekla: registration will be 31 btc
kakobrekla: for the forums
Duffer1: ;seen dexX7
kakobrekla: any posting a banable offense
Duffer1: ;;seen dexX7
gribble: dexX7 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 23 hours, 43 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <dexX7> okay, not this hehe
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.04175 = 0.835 BTC [+] {2}
Duffer1: good afternoon gentlemangs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.03139999 = 0.628 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: hey
artifexd: Topic changed. Anybody that wants to offer suggestions/criticisms/whatever and can't talk in here should be smart enough to figure out who runs the bot.
artifexd: s/should be/will need to be/
mike_c: you should flip that. anyone can post, but posting gets you banned, then 31 btc to get unbanned. you'll be rich.
kakobrekla: but socks?
artifexd: Interesting idea. Put the warning in the topic. Ban them with a message: Send 0.001 BTC to XXX to get unbanned. Collect riches.
fluffypony: http://i.imgur.com/yeGvLEO.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.145 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8849 @ 0.00100003 = 8.8493 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4399 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0071 = 0.355 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00100033 = 1.8006 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07399 = 0.222 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0739809 = 0.8138 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: fluffypony scammer
fluffypony: plz
fluffypony: seasoned scammer to you
fluffypony: little bit of salt and pepper
kakobrekla: no you are, thats not a jpg.
fluffypony: lol
fluffypony: that's imgur's fault not mine
kakobrekla: just shill then
fluffypony: imgur shill
kakobrekla: totally
fluffypony: where is my wealth creation!
thestringpuller: fluffypony: fucking build a machine to take money from the poor
thestringpuller: ;;last seenbitcoinpete
gribble: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message (1 more message)
thestringpuller: ;;last seen bitcoinpete
gribble: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message (1 more message)
thestringpuller: ;;seen bitcoinpete
gribble: bitcoinpete was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 3 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <bitcoinpete> bbl
fluffypony: I meant from shilling for imgur
fluffypony: :-P
kakobrekla: they pay you directly in dogecoins
thestringpuller: which will be worth x0.5 in a year
thestringpuller: because you know
thestringpuller: inflation
kakobrekla: moiety what happened to dat wiki page?
fluffypony: thestringpuller didn't they cancel that inflation thing
fluffypony: and everyone was up in arms
fluffypony: http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/02/dogecoin-to-allow-annual-inflation-of-5-billion-coins-each-year-forever/
assbot: Dogecoin to allow annual inflation of 5 billion coins each year, forever | Ars Technica
fluffypony: “Thanks for killing the profitability of the currency. Now it's going to be worthless in a couple of years and never reach the value of Bitcoin or even anywhere close,” wrote MadCold on Github.
fluffypony: l.o.l. (tm)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00100069 = 2.2015 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.041 = 0.164 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: artifexd bugs!
artifexd: I see that. I have a plan. I will code it up tonight.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0749999 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.041 = 0.205 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.075 = 0.15 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.434 = 1.736 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00422006 = 0.3587 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.03139999 = 0.942 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00100069 = 8.3057 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;later tell bitcoinpete how come my gravatar isn't working? what did I mess up?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.0905 = 0.181 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;calc 8.5 * 5
gribble: 42.5
thestringpuller: ;;calc 168 - 42.5
gribble: 125.5
thestringpuller: ;;calc 125.5 / 7
gribble: 17.9285714286
benkay: fluffypony> mike_c: if you want to get semi-fancy with less headaches maybe puppet is the way to go? // uuhauahauauhauhuahuahunooooooooooo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: puppet?!?!?
thestringpuller: benkay go make some vm's
thestringpuller: lol
thestringpuller: jkjk
thestringpuller: <3
fluffypony: thestringpuller: he was quoting me, he's too cool for puppet:)
benkay: cool or ghetto
benkay: cannot tell
fluffypony: benkay: we'll go with cool
mircea_popescu: so adding to the delights of weird shit happening to me, today... i got flooded.
fluffypony: or hipster if you'd prefer
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: like water flooded or IRC flooded?
mircea_popescu: water flooded
fluffypony: dang
mircea_popescu: rainfal was 150mm easy
mircea_popescu: artifexd ty fixt.
mircea_popescu: !up Folichon-
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 12 @ 0.041 = 0.492 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: artifexd you might take out 'New' out of the strings, since the thing is never 'old'
mircea_popescu: http://www.opiniatimisoarei.ro/wp-content/gallery/inundatii-timisoara-2/inundatii-timisoara-ploaie-torentiala-4.jpg < sort of idea.
mircea_popescu: that was afternoon.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.075 = 0.825 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: and, of course, http://www.renasterea.ro/images/stiri/ploaie_vara-28622.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 41 @ 0.07462678 = 3.0597 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.07397821 = 2.9591 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell thickasthieves who the fuck waits for hotel checkins, srsly.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: bounce my understanding is that various govts/the bureaucratic interest are pushing to block or if not possible tightly control all shipments of precious metals among any independent entities, traders or not.
mircea_popescu: this under the guise of the usual methods, falsely accusing these of "breaking the law", or fail that, "being racist"
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1206333552/twit.jpg
mircea_popescu: this twit has opinions on what bitcoin needs and its image.
mircea_popescu: dude, seriously, why is every two bit stripper claiming to be working "in the press" ?
kakobrekla: <[]bot> New bet placed: 26 BTC for no on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment (http://bitbet.us/bet/786/)". Odds: 93(Y):7(N) by coin, 93(Y):7(N) by weight. Total bet: 1085.51619404 BTC. Current weight: 82,303
kakobrekla: some bettor woke up
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/#b140
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1007.93 B (93%) on Yes, 77.59 B (7%) on No | closing in 9 months 6 days | weight: 82`298 (100`000 to 1)
mircea_popescu: o look at that it's starting to move
mircea_popescu: damn.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla y u no slower!
mircea_popescu: and where is this bet ?
mircea_popescu: this bot*
kakobrekla: dont you read ze logs
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2014#675235 ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: i'm behind
mircea_popescu: because water.
mircea_popescu: http://pando.com/2014/05/14/sorry-america-the-ukraine-isnt-all-about-you/
assbot: Sorry America, the Ukraine isn’t all about you | PandoDaily
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00100216 = 18.9408 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: Catherine Rampell @crampell · 2h Over a lifetime, average US college graduate will earn at least $800,000 more than the average high school graduate http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/05/us-usa-fed-college-idUSBREA440KD20140505
assbot: Skip college, forfeit $800,000: Fed study| Reuters
mircea_popescu: Mircea Popescu @Mircea_Popescu · now @crampell That lifetime started in 1960 and ended in 2005. The next lifetime will be quite distinct. Fight the present, not the previous war
mircea_popescu: such herpetology.
mircea_popescu: http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/05/linux-gets-fix-for-code-execution-flaw-that-went-unpatched-since-2009/
assbot: Linux gets fix for code-execution flaw that was undetected since 2009 | Ars Technica
mircea_popescu: ll/pp/qq are dne
mircea_popescu: bounce: next you'll need a bitcoin transmission licence to send (or receive) more than 1 bitcoin per day << in their own little koi pond where bitpay is the largest best first company and us side vcs matter, they can do whatever the hell they want, up to and including a plastic version of bitcoin to go with the plastic version of a steak.
mircea_popescu: you didn't expect the dead to actually embrace their death, did you ? ever sent a teenager upstairs to clean up their room ?
mircea_popescu: of fucking course they'll be back on the gamestation half hour later swearing up and down that they have, and the disorder apparent is just their implementaiton of order.
benkay: can't wait to deploy my war face against that
mircea_popescu: benkay gotta talk to a woman about that, i can't help you :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00100305 = 0.6018 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/05/14/first-largest-bestest-ever-in-the-us/ << this guy's enthusiastic.
assbot: First! Largest! Bestest! Ever! In The US | When Bitcoin Met Pete
mircea_popescu: o hey artifexd, nice bet
mircea_popescu: bot*
mircea_popescu: mind adding it in here with a special rule to only dump bets > 1btc ?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: I don't get the Ohio thing << ohio is the shithole state. i used it as a metaphorical derogatory, to help the guy understand that his vc circuit is a bit player in bitcoin.
fluffypony: got it
mircea_popescu: assbot: Bitcoin Bingo: What Ticker Will the Winklevii Pick for Their ETF? - Bloomberg << "we forgot to mention that mp said this in his mpoe reports for february. it just occurred to us, just like that, out of the depths of our ramen fed brainz."
mircea_popescu: gotta love teh press.
mircea_popescu: god i hated the jetsons. that and scooby doo, worst fucking cartoons in the history of cartoons.
mircea_popescu: artifexd: http://bitbet.us/bet/846/ <- first time I've seen a bet before the initial two bets were placed. << that's the sign by which you know a zeroconf.
assbot: BitBet - Clay Aiken to win in NC :: 0.04 B (40%) on Yes, 0.06 B (60%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 99`917 (100`000 to 1)
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: any posting a banable offense << i thought this forum already existed ? i haven't posted in it since 2011
mircea_popescu: http://linux.fe.up.pt/portal/aggregator/sources/2
assbot: Ubuntu Security Notices | Linux FEUP
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00099724 = 8.1774 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: the epic just piles on.
mircea_popescu: Ilja van Sprundel discovered that libXfont incorrectly handled font
mircea_popescu: metadata file parsing. A local attacker could use this issue to cause
mircea_popescu: libXfont to crash, or possibly execute arbitrary code in order to gain
mircea_popescu: privileges.
punkman: WEBFONTS!!!11!
mircea_popescu: win.
mircea_popescu: o look at that, i'm all caught up with logs.
mircea_popescu: i accomplished so much today.
fluffypony: well done
punkman: I think I might grab one of these for airgappin https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A10/A10-OLinuXino-LIME/open-source-hardware
assbot: A10-OLinuXino-LIME - Open Source Hardware Board
fluffypony: hand shakes all round
fluffypony: mircea_popescu question
fluffypony: you use AN0 for S.MG right
fluffypony: why not for S.MPOE and S.NSA?
fluffypony: sorry S.BBET not S.NSA
mircea_popescu: Or that more attractive people are judged as more trustworthy, or they arguments they give as more intelligent. << this is actually not that bad a bias.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony cause those existed pre an0 basically
punkman: mircea_popescu: how is it a good bias?
fluffypony: I know that, but lately I've been reading the AN0 overview over and over again to be able to use it, and you said that in 2014 it would become compulsory for all assets on mpex?
mircea_popescu: punkman beauty is simply a sign of good quality genetics. all things equal, beautiful people are more likely to be intelligent than ugly people.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony yeah. except mpoe is incorporated as a zero asset corp, and bitbet may be migrated, once i have some time to dick with that.
fluffypony: kk
mircea_popescu: so far it's ambiguously either of the two, and a bunch of other stuff needs reviewing about it
fluffypony: I like the format, definitely more elegant than the way MPOE reports atm, for instance
mircea_popescu: certainly lengthier, for no clear benefit
fluffypony: in MPOE's case yes
fluffypony: oh btw
mircea_popescu: right.
fluffypony: the subject of "seats" came up on -otc today
mircea_popescu: one of the issues with bitbet is how exactly the bets will be treated
mircea_popescu: aha ?
fluffypony: and I did some reading on the NYSE
fluffypony: fascinating stuff
mircea_popescu: right.
fluffypony: and holy shit were those seats expesnive
fluffypony: *expensive
fluffypony: even now that they've gone to a yearly "license" model
fluffypony: it's still $40k a year
fluffypony: vs. ~$13k once off for MPEX
mike_c: hah. 40k a year is expensive? :)
mircea_popescu: imo they cheapened it into the dirt
fluffypony: mike_c: not the post-2005 model, the fixed seats model
mircea_popescu: hardly worth having one (and the people that had them back in the day are pissed at nyse for it)
mircea_popescu: the collapse of the us is made of little pukes like that.
fluffypony: mike_c: they had 1366 seats total, fixed and you couldn't get more
mike_c: 40k is like 25% of the cost of 1 engineer
mircea_popescu: lose a bunch of smart traders in the wtc, piss off everyone with a populist nyse franchise,
mircea_popescu: stuff like that
fluffypony: "The most expensive inflation-adjusted seat was sold in 1929 for $625,000, which, today, would be over six million dollars. In recent times, seats have sold for as high as $4 million in the late 1990s and as low as $1 million in 2001."
BCB: mircea_popescu, when did you get banned from BCT
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: it's quite funny - the Twitter exchange earlier led me to stumbling across MPEX's AngelList profile around the same time as the conversation in -otc
mircea_popescu: generally speaking, any move you take to make anything more accessible, makes it shittier. in general, by a larger % than the gain of accessibility.
mircea_popescu: BCB what's bct ?
BCB: Bitcoin Talk
fluffypony: and on AngelList it says "The NYSE of Bitcoin" or something
mircea_popescu: fluffypony nobody can say they didn't have a fair chance. they blew it, tho.
fluffypony: which makes sense
fluffypony: vs. BitcoinBourse that say they want to be "the Wall Street of Bitcoin"
fluffypony: clearly misunderstanding wtf Wall Street is
mircea_popescu: and i'll delight in punishing all the vcs with it in the years to come. "here. this was your job. this was your job that you didn't do. because you suck. because you're inept. because you can't do your job. like children. look how stupid you were. you still are." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yeah well, they're limited by what they see on cereal cartons.
fluffypony: BCB: hanbot is banned, mircea_popescu isn't
BCB: who is hanbot
fluffypony: MPOE-PR
mircea_popescu: BCB do you mean https://bitcointa.lk/threads/maged-permabanned-mpoe-pr-because-she-swore-shock.292615/ ?
assbot: Maged permabanned MPOE-PR because she swore shock | Bitcointa.lk
BCB: fluffypony, does she have a chaturbate account
mike_c: not to defend the vc's. but currently the best VC's are priced out of bitcoin companies. what startup are they going to put serious money into? not many choices.
fluffypony: BCB: doubt it :-P
fluffypony: mike_c: obviously Bitpay because biggest and best and largest
mike_c: and even that wasn't that big
BCB: swore shock??
mircea_popescu: mike_c which is, exactly, http://trilema.com/2013/the-future-of-bitcoin-regulation/
assbot: The future of Bitcoin regulation pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck told them to come a year too late ?
mircea_popescu: why didn't they read trilema april 2013 and execute THAT WEEK ?
mircea_popescu: what is this shit, i give orders and they disobey ? because why ?
mircea_popescu: of fucking course you'll be priced out of what trilema tells you to do in april 2013 if you wait till april 2014. if you weren't priced out that'd mean trilema sucks.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't.
mircea_popescu: "This is possibly the last chance to take those piles of fundamentally worthless US dollars and use them for something with any sort of future value.", the man said.
mike_c: hehe. well, when things heat up another order of magnitude they will start writing checks like it's going out of style. even if it is too late.
mircea_popescu: sure.
fluffypony: what is humorous are the people bitching about 30 BTC per seat when that was $600
mircea_popescu: and i'll be all http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2014#675569 ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: fluffypony it was free for a whole month.
mircea_popescu: all the shits-for-brains on the forum knew better.
mircea_popescu: then it was 20 btc, when btc was $5
fluffypony: yeah, long before my time unfortunately
mircea_popescu: all the shits for brains knew better.
mircea_popescu: etc.
fluffypony: iz ok, I still have jurov to hook me up
mike_c: ;;calc (30 * [ticker --last])
gribble: 13339.5
mike_c: ^ way less then 40k a year
mircea_popescu: mike_c was as high as nyse, practically. back when btc went over 1200
fluffypony: mike_c: and really not a bad price if you're institutional
fluffypony: even if you're just toe-dipping into BTC
mike_c: i don't think it's ever been a bad price. best time to buy a mpex seat is today.
mircea_popescu: pankkake http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/05/06/bitcointalk-always-retarded/ << you need to write more words. spell things out.
assbot: Bitcointalk, always retarded | pankkake
mircea_popescu: mike_c you must agree i know how to price.
fluffypony: I think it's out of my league, not entirely from a price perspective but more from a "what would I do with it" perspective
mircea_popescu: kinda funny for someone with 0 days experience in sales/product.
fluffypony: I'm too casual an investor to make it work for me
mod6: buy & hold?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony if you think about it, nyse has 1.5k seats or so, and perhaps 150mn diff people ever traded on it.
mircea_popescu: that'd be 1 in 100k.
fluffypony: mod6: I can do that through coinbr tho
mircea_popescu: but yes, unless your portofolio is > 1k btc, you don't really need a seat imo.
fluffypony: yeah that's the thing
mircea_popescu: !jd mpif
assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 164.65235181 BTC; +0.28620048 BTC (+0.1741%) since last check 1d 23h 28m 22s ago.
fluffypony: maybe possibly if I stumbled into the knowledge / time / inclination to run a brokerage it would be worthwhile
fluffypony: but otherwise my portfolio is too small fry to justify it
mircea_popescu: srsly, who still has a forum account ?
mircea_popescu: tell phinn gage to come over.
fluffypony: mod6: oh wait - did you mean buy the seat and hold it, not buy the seat and then buy shares and hold them?
mod6: naw, just the latter.
jurov: someone figured out how to trade gpg privkeys?
fluffypony: ah ok
mod6: forgot about coinbr. lol, sorry jurov :)
mircea_popescu: pankkake you seriously claim to have seen most porn in existence ?!
mircea_popescu: how is that even possible, i'd guess even excluding cams and amateur shit, there's well over 1mn hours floating around.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 24 * 365
gribble: 8760
mircea_popescu: even if nonstop... 100 years ?
jurov: he's watching it 10x faster on 10 monitors
mod6: lol, all on FF
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: i mean he could say he's seen most GIRLS that ever shot more than a few tests
mircea_popescu: i know guys with similar performance
mircea_popescu: well... gals, mostly, but anyway.
fluffypony: bed time noa, night all
mircea_popescu: dear channel, i have a question.
mircea_popescu: chick that's not been allowed to wear pants for 5 years now or something, tried on one of my pairs for fun. she looked incredibly hot in them.
mircea_popescu: am i gay ?
BCB: are you gay?
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust bcb
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask BCB!~BCB@unaffiliated/bcb. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user bcb: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 9 via 12 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=bcb | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bcb | Rated since: Thu Sep 20 19:03:51 2012
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: you need someone with a proper gaydar to tell you
mircea_popescu: plz to be seriously.
kakobrekla: the answer is: no its european?
mircea_popescu: who got a gaydar
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla lol
mircea_popescu: i bet ascii got a gaydar.
fluffypony: lol
mircea_popescu: he's got every other gadget in his 400 sq feet of "living" space
BCB: That beard is very gay.
fluffypony: ok gone for reals noa, bye
mircea_popescu: beards are manly.
mod6: ^^
BCB: vv
kakobrekla: >>
kakobrekla: like pankkake porn
mod6: haha
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: check that out, all the olschool cats trust BCB
kakobrekla: ;;rated bcb
gribble: You have not yet rated user bcb
BCB: mircea_popescu, not pirateat40
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla omfg, look at that, 1k trust. we are x.x
mircea_popescu: BCB what do you do, paypal arbitrage basically ?
BCB: I did. Before paypal shot down all my accounts.
mircea_popescu: so what do you do now ?
BCB: nothing :(
BCB: I'm not a Money Transmitter in the US
mircea_popescu: well so how would you like a managerial position in mpif ?
mircea_popescu: We think our actions express our decisions. But in nearly all of our life, willing decides nothing.
mircea_popescu: "We cannot wake up or fall asleep, remember or forget our dreams, summon or banish our thoughts, by deciding to do so.
mircea_popescu: dude this is total bs. i can do most of those things.
BCB: You sound like Steve Jobs
mircea_popescu: i have a much better beard than jobbs ever had.
BCB: True that
BCB: what does it pay
BCB: I'm not cheap
mircea_popescu: read the contract first.
BCB: send it to me
mircea_popescu: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=F.MPIF
assbot: F.MPIF last 140@0.00021725