WolfGoethe: anyone here actively do any peer to peer trading?
jurov: WolfGoethe: sometimes
WolfGoethe: jurov what payment methods do you use?
WolfGoethe: ah europe, ok, where do u guys trade #bitcoin-otc ?
jurov: yes there. anyone tries transferwise?
WolfGoethe: never tried transferwise, what premiums do u get with them?
WolfGoethe: what sites are you guys on? LBC, bitwallet paxful ?
jurov: apparently they ask 0.5% or $1
WolfGoethe: i'm in NYC, dudes got robbed here inperson
WolfGoethe: i like high premiums, paypalmy cash gets up to a 100% sometimes
mxtm: < massholes represent
WolfGoethe: there is a nice uk peer to peer trading site right?bit trust.couk ?
trinque: mxtm: I was just describing to someone moving to Boston the difference in culture between new england and here (PDX) .... how did I forget "massholes"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43867 @ 0.00032542 = 14.2752 BTC [+]
mxtm: no indiancandy1, meaning people from massachusetts
trinque: portland pussies stand no chance there
WolfGoethe: portland was nice. met a super model lookin type girl there... she told me she hasn;t had a date in 6 months.. i was like why??? she said because the guys in portland are to scared to even say hi to her... lol
☟︎ WolfGoethe: ortland has a dope ass bar arcade tho...
trinque: WolfGoethe: nice town as an outsider yeah
mats: i hope you took her on a date
mxtm: i've never been to portland
trinque: WolfGoethe: ground control?
WolfGoethe: yeah, we just hung out and had fun, took for a ride on my bike, was going cross country
WolfGoethe: no intimiate stuff tho lol. i'm not a player.. just a geek :)
WolfGoethe: forgot the name of the arcade bar.. but they had all the old skool games. went for sf2 and tmnt.. had a blast with the model girl there
trinque: girl goes home sadly to her hitachi
trinque: WolfGoethe: was probably ground control
trinque: get drunk on whiskeys and play galaga
WolfGoethe: wanna go back, me nad her talk on FB, she got friends. I'm not into tall skinny blondes. like my women thick and short
trinque: WolfGoethe: every time I build up enough piss and vinegar to leave, I find a reason to stay
WolfGoethe: unrelated question.. anyone got some paypal my cash codes they wanna trade for some btc?
assbot: WolfGoethe is not registered in WoT.
WolfGoethe: I am in NYC. portland was nice. I rode thru texas. liked it Galveston and austin were awesome
trinque: not that I'm personally buying, but that'd probably help
WolfGoethe: i checked bitcoin-otc .. no paypal my cash there
WolfGoethe: can i post a link to ym trading profile here or is that not allowed?
williamdunne: I sent an email to SandHill saying "So when are you moving then", and this was their response:
williamdunne: "The US is our home -- they may be acting like nincompoops but I don't want to completely uproot over this."
williamdunne: indiancandy1: Nah, only UK, and I don't have a vagina so don't have an instagram account
WolfGoethe: the finest fitness booty imaginable.. it never ends
trinque: williamdunne: but you do twat...
williamdunne: Oh yes, I'd be interested in seeing the male/female ratio on instagram/twitter though
trinque: instagram is solely for hot women and pictures of their food/cats, this is true
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49807 @ 0.0003255 = 16.2122 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: never do I look at my food or ass and say "goddamn someone needs to see this shit"
☟︎ williamdunne: trinque: tbf I doubt your ass is as nice as indiancandy1's
williamdunne: In fairness, didn't that one guy take a photo of a market up his ass at hanbot's request?
WolfGoethe: not the market up the udes butt.. girls
williamdunne: indiancandy1: You've told us your username before
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1: You really don't give your twitter account enough love
WolfGoethe: squat booty rules all. skinny booty is a travesty worthy of jihad
WolfGoethe: huh? lt the page load. there are women on there
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34605 @ 0.00032759 = 11.3363 BTC [+] {2}
WolfGoethe: nah not into that. tattoos ruin it for me
trinque: prolly the chick who's a table
trinque: tried dating a chick once covered in tats, very distracting
WolfGoethe: ride a bike and u talk to a lot fo tat girls.. do nothing for me
williamdunne: Was thinking of getting a tattoo while in Prague actually..
trinque: "you had this great body, then let 'artists' use it like a bar bathroom wall"
williamdunne: indiancandy1: Mmk, what sort of computer do you have?
indiancandy1: im getting a tattoo above my panty line this week
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Did you ever get that pink netbook?
danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, lol no, I got outbid and forgot about it
mod6: Update: full sync of v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patche(s) { Orphanage Thermonuke } + { TX Orphanage Amputation } is up to block: 314713
indiancandy1: it says windows smartscreen csnt be reached atm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63700 @ 0.00032827 = 20.9108 BTC [+]
trinque: it's a hamfisted attempt to "protect" the user
williamdunne: So when you see the smart screen thing yes, what buttons can you click?
williamdunne: I don't believe Greece, India, or the UK are in South America
trinque: williamdunne: did you not hear the tunes?
williamdunne: trinque: Sounded like electro-jamaican-indian to me
trinque: ah what do I know; I wasn't really listening :D
trinque: I thought that was some kind of reggaeton thing or w/e it's called
trinque: some french, some italian, and a smattering of various UK miscellany
williamdunne: trinque: I think you just described most Europeans
williamdunne: Eh, I'll be in London on Sunday before flying to Bucharest on Monday
trinque: williamdunne: what do you do that has you traveling
trinque: indiancandy1: get in the wot! we need more beautiful women.
williamdunne: Lady from Credit Agricole decided I have to open the account in person
williamdunne: trinque: Do we have any other beautiful women?
trinque: dunno, but one should always have more
trinque: hm, so this is a perfect example of a gossipd use case
trinque: well, or just tagging along on someone's more permissive node if they don wanna
williamdunne: Would she have got here in the first place if it wasn't for freenode webchat?
williamdunne: I'm pretty fucking excited, Bucharest -> Prague -> Istanbul is gonna be fun
☟︎ trinque: indiancandy1: did you install the thing?
trinque: heh williamdunne do a join.me or something with her
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83600 @ 0.00032887 = 27.4935 BTC [+] {3}
williamdunne: indiancandy1: I dropped you a private message, if you give me your teamviewer details I'll sort it for you
trinque: goes without saying but... do not paste that here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73033 @ 0.00033146 = 24.2075 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12367 @ 0.00033542 = 4.1481 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57600 @ 0.00033575 = 19.3392 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: WolfGoethe: while we're doing inductions, why don't you register too
trinque: and I'll rate you so you can self-up later
trinque: at some point we're gonna need a ritual
indiancandy1: !register A886215D072240C8D8632DA8564F4D7DAEEA5571
assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: A886215D072240C8D8632DA8564F4D7DAEEA5571. This may take a few moments.
assbot: Key AEEA5571 / "indiancandy1" successfully imported.
assbot: Registration successful.
williamdunne: Can someone in the lords list please give indiancandy a rate?
williamdunne: I'll just show you how to use it once you've been rated
trinque: !rate indiancandy1 1 new blood
trinque: !v assbot:trinque.rate.indiancandy1.1:32279bb36b80ec9a60317e8aa0ca228d9837e259b890b090e1aa639427bd5da1
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for indiancandy1 with note: new blood
trinque: asciilifeform: what's that guy?
trinque: looks... like it does... something
trinque: google image search says it's chocolate
williamdunne: Who tried to set this up before for indiancandy1? She doesn't know what the password is to the key.. aha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44577 @ 0.00032795 = 14.619 BTC [-] {2}
williamdunne: Probably should have checked that before registering -.-
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35023 @ 0.00032498 = 11.3818 BTC [-]
trinque: williamdunne: and now you'll need to be able to use the old key to use !changekey
trinque: any simple guesses for the password?
WolfGoethe: !register A886215D072240C8D8632DA8564F4D7DAEEA5571
assbot: A key with that fingerprint is already registered by indiancandy1
williamdunne: Its not her normal password, its not no password, and its not password
williamdunne: (GPG4WIN asks for password even if there is none)
williamdunne: Guess we'll have to wait for kakro and see if he can fix it
trinque: WolfGoethe: yes, what OS are you on
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00033869 = 6.3674 BTC [+] {3}
trinque: WolfGoethe: 4096 bits recommended as the key size
trinque: in the key creation dialog it will ask whether you want to upload the key, do that
trinque: then assbot will be able to find it when you provide your fingerprint
williamdunne: ;;later tell kakobrekla can you unregister indiancandy1? I was setting it up for her and forgot to check if she knew the password to her GPG key.. she hasn't authed yet
trinque: asciilifeform: my only guess is some kind of supr s3kr3t radio disguisable as a beer can
trinque: maybe the knob comes off, some kind of outer covering goes on
WolfGoethe: i sent it to the keyserver, how do you look it up? name or email ?
williamdunne: indiancandy1: Its like an identifier for your key that I registered you with, the one you didn't know the password for
trinque: WolfGoethe: somewhere there will be listed a "fingerprint" of the key
trinque: that's the argument to !register
trinque: sure as indiancandy1 by way of williamdunne did
trinque: but like.... better than they did :D
WolfGoethe: !register A364FCEAC68953860519C8A5A66E2D65273F03BD
assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: A364FCEAC68953860519C8A5A66E2D65273F03BD. This may take a few moments.
assbot: No valid OpenPGP data found on pgp.mit.edu.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47000 @ 0.00034103 = 16.0284 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: WolfGoethe: either it wasn't the right one, or it takes a minute
WolfGoethe: !register A364FCEAC68953860519C8A5A66E2D65273F03BD
assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: A364FCEAC68953860519C8A5A66E2D65273F03BD. This may take a few moments.
assbot: Key 273F03BD / "wolfgangX <wolfgangg432@gmail.com>" successfully imported.
assbot: Registration successful.
trinque: !rate WolfGoethe 1 new blood
trinque: !v assbot:trinque.rate.WolfGoethe.1:1c0fe620b46c4634282678cb9daeae399403b84ad5669b4f1d8cc018fbe84b09
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for WolfGoethe with note: new blood
trinque: WolfGoethe: when you want voice, send a private message of !up to assbot
trinque: it'll send you a url, you decrypt the contents and give it back to assbot with !v
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.0003433 = 7.5183 BTC [+] {2}
WolfGoethe: only the geekiest of the crypto geeks would go thru all that just to post big booty pics
☟︎ trinque: WolfGoethe: weeds out the morons; congrats
WolfGoethe: i wrote a bitcoind core api server with full logging etc...
WolfGoethe: trying to give back with more than just phat instagram booty
trinque: what good cult doesn't have booty
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00033904 = 9.1541 BTC [-]
mjr_: i was going to say that we should have a ceremony with robes for voicing
assbot: mjr_ is not registered in WoT.
mjr_: look up Josh_Rossi i thihnk
mjr_: !gettrust Josh_Rossi
assbot: mjr_ is not registered in WoT.
mjr_: how did you find it wiliam?
mjr_: i should be registered, aren't I?
trinque: mjr_: yeah, otherwise you might as well be the pope
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33000 @ 0.00034352 = 11.3362 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.indiancandy1.1:036a1f902e6a7d0baf97178fc7a27e84060ce2a60228e1ed417f230871f4812a
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for indiancandy1 with note: indian viral video star living in london
williamdunne: danielpbarron: She doesn't have her password unfortunately to here PGP key D:
mjr_: anyway, kakobrekla around?
trinque: mjr_: you could be that guy, but how would anyone know?
mjr_: ok hold on, let me plug in my other computer
mjr_: i don't know why anyone would care if i was that guy
mjr_: since it literally makes 0 difference
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95491 @ 0.00033597 = 32.0821 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: mjr_: kakobrekla might if you're looking for him. consider if you will the value of making claims to an identity with hard proof
mjr_: well, i will let kakobrekla be the judge of that
trinque: the amount of bitching people do over 10sec of work...
mjr_: yeah i think he started it
mjr_: 10 seconds of work if you have your key on this computer...and you have used it recently
mjr_: you might have to go back a year or so to find the last time i chatted here
mjr_: but, i was at the first of the timisoara conferences
mjr_: and considering I don't think 10 seconds of work is worth it to say hi to someone
trinque: mjr_: you're taking this far too seriously
trinque: I was merely stating facts
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21259 @ 0.00034281 = 7.2878 BTC [+]
trinque: that you are not you by virtue of saying "I am me" on IRC
mjr_: i wasn't trying to prove that I am me
mjr_: i was asking if anyone has seen kakobrekla recently
trinque: you put a link to indicate who you were
mjr_: because someone else said "i'm registered josh isn't"
mjr_: i don't really care
mjr_: so, why press the point?
mjr_: i wasn't necessarily talking to you about anything sensitive or financial in nature...
mjr_: so there is no reason for you to know who I am, or care
williamdunne: mjr_: Oh, it was me that said it. I meant that I'm registered so assbot listened to me
mod6: wassup mjr: assbot doesn't have a fast time-out like gribble. so you can take your otp and decrypt on another box (air-gap) for instance and not have to worry.
mjr_: yeah, working on it now
mjr_: have to charge an old laptop
mjr_: but again, it doesn't really matter if its me or not
trinque: mjr_: dunno why this is hard for you... you made a claim to an identity, and I informed you that you really had done no such thing
mjr_: or rather, it doesn't matter whether the person typing this is Josh Rossi or not
trinque: as I would do towards anyone
mod6: well, it does to me! we used to chat back in the day, i'd like to know if its mjr i.e. father of buttonwood or dog.
mjr_: eh, if you say it is a claim, it wasn't meant as such
mjr_: but again, I am not trying to prove that it is me
trinque: had a conversation earlier about how flat text is sometimes, which applies here
mjr_: in other words, i don't have anything to discuss that must be proven to have come from me
decimation: indiancandy1: do you live in a council house?
trinque: mjr_: I'm amused that this offended you so deeply it required this much discussion
trinque: if you don't want to auth by all means
mjr_: it didn't offend me at all, i was just saying that in my humble opinion, auth'ing is useful if you want to prove you are the one who said something
mjr_: since i don't have that need, it is not so important to me
mjr_: but i might as well after all this
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70850 @ 0.00032208 = 22.8194 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: no, it's also so that those present can tell who the fuck you are
williamdunne: Well, hopefully you'd trust me enough to auth him. So you should think it is him even if you don't cryptographically know its him
decimation: mjr_: the important part is that friends can be enumerated
trinque: williamdunne: ever heard "trust but verify" ?
trinque: I'm not insulting the guy by saying "hello, who the fuck are you?"
williamdunne: Yeah, but I don't think its always that necessary
williamdunne: i.e if he was signing a contract, you verify that
decimation: williamdunne: it's necessary when there's a world full of zombies who want to waste your time
williamdunne: But if he's coming and saying 'hello' why the fuck does it matter?
trinque: because if I can see your face, and I've seen the face before, I'll know it
trinque: this is that for the internet
decimation: if by 'he's saying hello' you mean 'he has nothing to say', then it matters because of clutter
williamdunne: trinque: What about if I call you and say "Hey its Wil"
decimation: williamdunne: a poor but typical substitute for gpg auth
trinque: that conversation would a) not be a part of the public forum and b) if I knew you well, we could more or less establish who each other were by familiarity, but ^ it sucks
trinque: people should auth here for the same reason the deedbot- doesn't take any tattered scrap of paper from the street
decimation: imagine you were attending a lecture on the fourier transform. now imagine the lecture was taking place in an open booth on a london street
williamdunne: I dunno, I just don't see auth as that important if they're not doing anything extraordinary
decimation: would class be enhanced by random derps walking in and saying stupid shit?
trinque: williamdunne: stating your opinion is no argument
trinque: if it's not important why not remove the requirement on voice all together
trinque: mjr_: note this is more a point about the general benefits; you can do as you please
decimation: we used to have it that way; random derps would 'drop by and say hello'
trinque: see: every IRC channel that's ever been
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38759 @ 0.00032031 = 12.4149 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78914 @ 0.00032388 = 25.5587 BTC [+] {2}
mjr_: but i think comparing this to a class on a fourier transform is QUITE generous
trinque: williamdunne: modicum of respect is not a big ask
☟︎ williamdunne: I'm not entirely sure what he said means, but it didn't sound that disrespectful
trinque: I heard "fuck you" "gpg isn't that important" and "this place isn't that important"
trinque: this aside, decrypting a message from assbot takes far less time than his protestations that "it's pointless!"
williamdunne: Well, I'll agree with the second bit, would take less time to decrypt that assbot message
trinque: this attitude of being above it all is so american
trinque: or maybe it's leaking elsewhere
trinque: I have no fucking time for it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50900 @ 0.00031909 = 16.2417 BTC [-]
williamdunne: I think he is "some french, some italian, and a smattering of various UK miscellany"
trinque: guy shows up to a place, lets the people there know what they're doing isn't all that important
trinque: my well of hate for this mentality is bottomless
☟︎☟︎ williamdunne: I don't think that was his intention, however you took it
decimation: asciilifeform: what do you think of the macrofab folk so far?
WolfGoethe: Williamsburg broolklyn would be a nitemare for u. hipster centetral.plaid and skinny pants n beards
trinque: WolfGoethe: I live in portland oregon, hipster mecca
trinque: serious influx of californians lately too, it seems
decimation: trinque: they are fleeing the reconquistada as well as usg 'sitting' upon silicon valley
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah in their podcast they said that most of their placement was by hand, save the 'house parts'
decimation: what is the smallest pitch on your smt parts?
decimation: it might be on the pick n' place. or maybe the 'best' tech does the small stuff
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49300 @ 0.00031292 = 15.427 BTC [-]
decimation: you would have to try hard to tombstone an 0805
mike_c: ;;later tell mircea_popescu: requeting 1 eulor acct please
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00031909 = 5.8074 BTC [+]
decimation: I want to used for a 'remote head' on a server
decimation: in combination with rs-422 adapters to send serial over cat5
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19211 @ 0.00031367 = 6.0259 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66250 @ 0.00032439 = 21.4908 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48750 @ 0.00032274 = 15.7336 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83000 @ 0.00031301 = 25.9798 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40323 @ 0.00031825 = 12.8328 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58700 @ 0.00032302 = 18.9613 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29386 @ 0.00032403 = 9.5219 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46050 @ 0.00032041 = 14.7549 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83950 @ 0.00031269 = 26.2503 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45516 @ 0.00031075 = 14.1441 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BTR] 1000 @ 0.00111 = 1.11 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46000 @ 0.00031987 = 14.714 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85544 @ 0.00032423 = 27.7359 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16420 @ 0.00032449 = 5.3281 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90800 @ 0.00031323 = 28.4413 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51800 @ 0.00031102 = 16.1108 BTC [-] {2}
cazalla: qntra down for anyone else? ddos back eh?
☟︎ bad_duck: it loads in like.. 30 secs here
bad_duck: last news: "Foundation Report Brings Bitcoin Client Performance Improvement and Testing" (June 1)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106234 @ 0.00030865 = 32.7891 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79136 @ 0.00032406 = 25.6448 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76321 @ 0.00032501 = 24.8051 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54000 @ 0.00032058 = 17.3113 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00032047 = 5.4159 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42239 @ 0.00031677 = 13.38 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 21:05:33; mike_c: jurov: not to be an ass since you just took the job, but do you have an idea for ballpark on binaries? my ubuntu box has trouble running eulora due to gfx card issues.. just wondering if it's days, weeks, or months.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39444 @ 0.0003251 = 12.8232 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44250 @ 0.00031615 = 13.9896 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12705 @ 0.0003251 = 4.1304 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53095 @ 0.00032758 = 17.3929 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64900 @ 0.00031609 = 20.5142 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20790 @ 0.00032784 = 6.8158 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33050 @ 0.00032244 = 10.6566 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10141 @ 0.00032997 = 3.3462 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43289 @ 0.00033036 = 14.301 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23811 @ 0.00031961 = 7.6102 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48629 @ 0.00033233 = 16.1609 BTC [+]
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, your outstanding shipping bill is $70 and i still have a box of NSA tees taking up space in my studio
☟︎ nubbins`: given that the outstanding debt and the box of tees are 18 months old and 20 months old, respectively, i think it's time we settle up
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28300 @ 0.00033233 = 9.4049 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BTR] 5855 @ 0.00111 = 6.4991 BTC
nubbins`: they announced the ipo 30 minutes prior
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11412 @ 0.00032677 = 3.7291 BTC [-]
cazalla: is that risto reptiles thing nubbins` ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69550 @ 0.00032677 = 22.7269 BTC [-]
punkman: "bitcoins are property so we can barter for startup equite with them without being accredited investors"
cazalla: the barter ocf mentions a "Pietila Group" so i guess it might be him
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64900 @ 0.00032824 = 21.3028 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28729 @ 0.00032824 = 9.43 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19935 @ 0.00033233 = 6.625 BTC [+]
jurov: copypaste: trilema is ddos'd
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50665 @ 0.00033743 = 17.0959 BTC [+] {2}
copypaste: I was just making him aware, because it is working sometimes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31771 @ 0.00032915 = 10.4574 BTC [-]
jurov: yes i can confirm trilema loads in ~ 7s here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11929 @ 0.00032677 = 3.898 BTC [-]
jurov: dunno how that could be easily fixed. since mircea recoiled in horror from the "proxied php" setup, he can't easily split tittylick.php into other process with higher priority
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69750 @ 0.00033756 = 23.5448 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: copypaste heh yeah, there's some kid figures himself hot stuff
mircea_popescu: buys a little ddos now and again when his allowance allows.
jurov: deedbot doesn't do html
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00033128 = 8.8783 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: i spent hours roaming the landscape and searching for anything to pick up.. not very impressive first impression
jurov: it says i don't have skill for that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00033756 = 6.6499 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ah, there's an item hidden around that gives the skill for that
jurov: i keep finding only chicken scribbles and mysterious stones
jurov: and other kinds of stones
jurov: where? underwater?
chetty: just checked the db to be sure, there are indeed another item out there...but I suppose I should go actually look
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00032677 = 8.0385 BTC [-]
jurov: another mysterious rock.. i give up, will exchange for whatever exploring skill
jurov: if that item is supposed to be ceramic, maybe i don't see it
jurov: crystalspace.maploader.parse.image:
jurov: Could not open image file 'ceramic_dds' on VFS!
BingoBoingo: jurov: Interested in reviewing the Eulora beta for qntra?
jurov: i'd prefer not to. i want it to succeed.
jurov: i'd be like "everyone keeps telling me to /explore but i could not find in 3 hours the item that enables it"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42600 @ 0.00033787 = 14.3933 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: but you'll have to buy shiot from merchant to get you started
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51550 @ 0.00032785 = 16.9007 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: moving on to step two of my day, breakfast! after which ima make more eulora accts, mike_c danielpbarron an who else wanted.
pete_dushenski: "Popescu you're the dumbest fuck on the planet and have no authority to call anyone else an idiot." << quite the saucy qntra commenter
pete_dushenski: one can only imagine who said dumbfuck imagines qualified to call others idiots
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 02:59:59; trinque: williamdunne: modicum of respect is not a big ask
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39299 @ 0.00033202 = 13.0481 BTC [+]
jurov: from #eulora: <chetty> nah just wait a minute or so, death hasnt really been implemented yet
mircea_popescu: jurov dja have any idea how sadpuppies anyone'd have been if i implemented death before marriage ?
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 01:01:40; williamdunne: I'm pretty fucking excited, Bucharest -> Prague -> Istanbul is gonna be fun
jurov: really, this needs much more time to be able to grasp the game idea and write something positive
mircea_popescu: anyway, istanbul's great, prague's fulla sluts and therefore greater. bucharest... whatevs.
mircea_popescu prefers the turkish 35lb butt to the czech slender type
pete_dushenski: prague and istanbul both have fantastic food, bucharest is meh in this regard as well
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87550 @ 0.00033824 = 29.6129 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: romanian women would be right in between the bubblebutturks and the skinnyczechs
pete_dushenski: from all the ones i've come across, an admittedly smaller but still far from zero quantity, female.ro is right up there with the best of 'em
mircea_popescu: course you probably stuck to the danube plain, where all the garbage ends up.
mod6: Update: full sync of v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patche(s) { Orphanage Thermonuke } + { TX Orphanage Amputation } is up to block: 326594
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3251 @ 0.00033202 = 1.0794 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i'm talking mostly about the ones that've made their way to canada
pete_dushenski: plus, when i was in romania, i was in sinaia, brasov, timisoara, and a few other places, not just danube :)
pete_dushenski: speaking of traveling, fuck me if i don't have four sets of friends who just got engaged in the last month or two
pete_dushenski: if another one of them has a wedding at the same time as $conference....
pete_dushenski: and spoil the look on their face when i tell them that something in the world might be more important than their wedding ?
pete_dushenski: "One way to un-cast the Islamic State’s spell over its adherents would be to overpower it militarily and occupy the parts of Syria and Iraq now under caliphate rule. Al‑Qaeda is ineradicable because it can survive, cockroach-like, by going underground. The Islamic State cannot. If it loses its grip on its territory in Syria and Iraq, it will cease to be a caliphate. Caliphates cannot exist as underground mov
pete_dushenski: ements, because territorial authority is a requirement: take away its command of territory, and all those oaths of allegiance are no longer binding. Former pledges could of course continue to attack the West and behead their enemies, as freelancers. But the propaganda value of the caliphate would disappear, and with it the supposed religious duty to immigrate and serve it.
pete_dushenski: ^seriously, where do people get these swiss cheese heads ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29352 @ 0.00032677 = 9.5914 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: isis is no more capable of being destroyed by the usa's excuse for a military than al-queda was
pete_dushenski: fuck, al-queda should've been a walk in the park by comparison.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski roflmao. "one way to stop sucking would be to rule instead"
jurov: they're more like taleban
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the record, the only cockroaches in the middle west are the americans atm.
mircea_popescu: their underground being made up out of random social media
mircea_popescu: anyway, who the fuck came up with the territorial nonsense quoited above anyway ?
mircea_popescu: you'd think people actuaslly involved in strategic planning have enough of a tin ear to hear the sort of "o noes, things aren't like we have emotionally invested ourselves into them being, let us rehash how trhings shjould be so we don't have to change or even examine our priors" whine.
mircea_popescu: territory's not worth squat. bitcoin, tmsr~ does actually better than any known state PRECISELY because all its territory is virtual.
mircea_popescu: territory was important when the economy was based on working the land.
mircea_popescu: then the industrial revolution came, and england was the size of a cumsplotch, and it didn't matter.
mircea_popescu: find me a state in the history of the world that can run the sort of deficits we run.
nubbins`: my timely quip is no longer timely
mircea_popescu: decimation you know this is what people said too ? "can't eat an iron sword"
mircea_popescu: yeah dude, you can. and it's your choice to either feed me or eat it. how about that.
mircea_popescu: i can't eat a digital biscuit, meanwhile you go make someone shove pens in his butt, without the digital biscuit.
nubbins`: so i just got this in an email from my isp
decimation: the surplus of bitcoin failed to help dpr
mircea_popescu: decimation and the pretorian guard failed to help nero.
nubbins`: mild panic this past winter when i realized the obstruction my metal snow shovel wouldn't pound through was... fibre into the house
mircea_popescu: they're reinforced to hell precisely because of people like you.
mircea_popescu: srsly, for about 10 years it was like "omfg world please stop cutting cables"
nubbins`: guy asked me if i wanted fibre to the pole or the door
mircea_popescu: eventually it was "fuck this shit, we make them as tough as pipes"
nubbins`: "is it any extra fee to bring it to the door?" "nope" "what kinda beer do you drink?"
nubbins`: pete it's an "actiontech" or smth
pete_dushenski: i'm in the market for a new modem. don't want to swallow whatever cisco garbage shaw cable provides
nubbins`: hm, apparently this actiontec router might be worth tossing
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williamdunne: Yeah, think he last went down maybe two weeks ago?
williamdunne: Guessing the new reconnecting stuff actually works
BingoBoingo still has the expectation that scooping bots go rogue
williamdunne is actually just sitting at home refreshing people's RSS feeds pretending to be a bot
BingoBoingo: * williamdunne is actually just sitting at home refreshing people's RSS feeds pretending to be a bot << Oh, that's how oglafbot works
williamdunne: Although I guess you just have to check every Sunday so not too bad
williamdunne: If you want I could just add oglaf to scoopbot..
assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 14:47:09; davout: bye!
assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 15:06:01; shinohai: This is about the only place that isn't an echo chamber anymore sadly.
nubbins`: bluetooth dongle w/ fake antenna
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Its okay, the cult has been restored with a t-shirt with your face on it
williamdunne: I'm impressed so far with Romanian hospitality
williamdunne: 23:48:16 - menahem: what do you guys think of this tee ?
williamdunne: 23:49:17 - williamdunne: Well, its official, we're a cult.
williamdunne: 23:51:05 - menahem: debating if i should add a quote to it
williamdunne: 23:51:45 - williamdunne: "I'm better than you" should suffice
williamdunne: 23:52:53 - menahem: "this Bitcock ain't gonna suck itself."
mircea_popescu: anywhere you go, you're unimpressed with the local assholery.
williamdunne: 23:53:41 - WolfGoethe [~textual@cpe-74-66-238-187.nyc.res.rr.com] entered the room.
williamdunne: It really is incredible how helpful the lady has been, I'm used to the standard snobbery from others in her position
williamdunne: It actually doesn't look half-bad on the t-shirt
mircea_popescu: if georgie ouzounian runs into you somewhere in dusty utah and you're wearing that shirt and it reads "I'm better than you" he's probably going to accost you.
williamdunne: I'm not awful at running, I'll take my chances
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 10:34:11; nubbins`: mircea_popescu, your outstanding shipping bill is $70 and i still have a box of NSA tees taking up space in my studio
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 10:34:32; nubbins`: given that the outstanding debt and the box of tees are 18 months old and 20 months old, respectively, i think it's time we settle up
nubbins`: 1CzZMzXzA9jtRDNEcG1jzfL5MfxRyVjUxD
mircea_popescu: this has been the most distant christmas in hystory, but! apparently it's coming.
nubbins`: i'll shake the spiders out of the remaining inventory at no extra charge
mircea_popescu: what sort of industrial warehouse do you run in your own house over there!!
nubbins`: looked less intimidating outdoors
assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 20:16:56; trinque: little guy seems to be doing alright
nubbins`: in other news, we're prolly gonna break last year's gross income by late july
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 12:59:03; mircea_popescu: ask anyone. "impotent anger, #1 red flag".
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i've been told to use hate as a measurement of success.
chetty: its ok tho, Eulora is up
pete_dushenski: "So, for instance, if it turned out that Obama were indeed a space lizard (how embarrassing!) the administrator would simlply click on “conspiracy theories,” click on the checkbox next to “Obama is a space lizard,” and click “uninstall.”"
pete_dushenski: "I would respond that if he has a SIM card in his phone, then the phone emits roaming signals which allow its position to be determined with surprisingly good accuracy by using multilateralization—measuring its relative signal strength at several of the surrounding cell phone towers." << doesn't this require 'stingray' ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29050 @ 0.000328 = 9.5284 BTC [+]
mike_c: mircea_popescu: got the acct info, thanks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25348 @ 0.000328 = 8.3141 BTC [+]
mike_c: cazalla: I'm going to try dual-booting another box of mine and see if i can get eulora/ubuntu going. I'll post my step-by-step if it works
☟︎ mod6: i tried to get it up and going lastnight on the throw-away ubuntu lappy has an intel graphics card. i had the previous release running on there, but have since wiped it. everything compiled fine lastnight. 'cept when starting `euclient`, it complained about no 3d graphics or something similar.
mod6: gonna mess with it later tonight. i don't remember what I did before to resolve this, been too long.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 127271 @ 0.00033676 = 42.8598 BTC [+] {3}
chetty: mod6 what version ubuntu?
assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 20:22:07; Landgull: They need to stop talking about what they need and start talking about what they will do for their investors.
mircea_popescu: it just calls people that if that's what they want to be called.
mircea_popescu: if you're so inclined, you can find a woman on the street willing to call your bar bills "investments", and then make you some kids to invest into further.
mircea_popescu: that's the nature of this "investment". "we can use your money"
BingoBoingo: Bethesda is announcing Fallout 4 tomorrow, hot on the heels of the Eulora beta announcement.
BingoBoingo: I enjoyed that Fallout 3.5 game in Vegas more than 3 though
mod6: <+chetty> mod6 what version ubuntu? << 14.10? not sure off the top of my head. i'll work on it tonight. will let you know.
nubbins`: pete_dushenski doesn't what require stingray
nubbins`: triangulating your position based on cell towers?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49300 @ 0.00034434 = 16.976 BTC [+]
menahem: williamdunne thanks for sharing the shirt, lol. :) ill have it available for purchase soon, tweaking the shipping options.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88100 @ 0.0003451 = 30.4033 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: if all you need are cell phone towers to determine location, why the fuck does stingray matter ?
pete_dushenski: ftr i don't know that 'stingray' is all that useful, may be 'teaching the controversy'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35851 @ 0.00031709 = 11.368 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: it's useful if the telco tells you to fuck off
nubbins`: look, your phone's connected to x towers right now, each with a diff signal strength. basic math gives a rough location
nubbins`: stingray would ostensibly be a single-point unit, less useful for triangulation, more of a "warmer/colder" style
pete_dushenski: telco telling cops to fuck off though ? maybe 10 years ago.
pete_dushenski: not that there wouldn't be some red tape and paperwork, i suppose.
nubbins`: go back and re-watch The Wire and see the hassle they went through tapping cell phones, and then imagine giving them a suitcase that blasts out the strongest cell signal in the projects so every phone preferentially tries to connect to it
nubbins`: sure, and a lot of the problems surrounding that part of the puzzle are different now
nubbins`: but in all cases, going through official routes to get info from telco vs just turning on a piece of kit?
nubbins`: especially if your department head doesn't give a fuck when/where you use your stingray
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33300 @ 0.00031568 = 10.5121 BTC [-]
lobbes: <BingoBoingo> I enjoyed it, but also missed out on 1&2 << Same boat here. I never played 1 & 2, but thoroughly enjoyed 3 & 3.5. My buddy, who had played the originals, also felt disappointed. It's all relative (tm), I guess.
pete_dushenski: needless to say, stingray or tower triangulation are more expensive to implement than gps tracking in smartphones
pete_dushenski: so if security is a matter of making attacks expensive, a dumbphone still trumps a smartphone
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: did the derp from fortune who didn't link to qntra ever come clean ?
nubbins`: this vpn doles out a paltry 17mbit/s
pete_dushenski: i've been doing some reading on this jaron lanier fellow, looking for an angle to roast him on for a blog post but i have to admit i'm at a loss
pete_dushenski: the dude is so all over the map, markov chaining so hard, that i have nothing to grab onto without pulling the entire universe along with me
pete_dushenski: ah well, fuck it. if anyone falls for his rambling nonsense, they deserve it.
nubbins`: "He proposes a two-way linking system that would point to the source of any piece of information, creating an economy of micropayments that compensates people for original material they post to the web."
nubbins`: imagine those youtube pop-up text ads, but "like the sound in this scene? send satoshis to 1Rambo5SoundGuyxxx"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94450 @ 0.00031806 = 30.0408 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: pretty much his proposal, except extended even further so that people sharing their biometrics or whatever with their insurance companies or employers would be paid extra
pete_dushenski: but because it was willingly shared, it magically has value.
nubbins`: if it didn't have value, people wouldn't collect it, mmm?
pete_dushenski: value being a very subjective thing when there's no scarcity or fungibility
nubbins`: maybe the lighting in Heat was too blue for audiences in the late 2010s
nubbins`: but was rad as hell in the mid 2030s
pete_dushenski: well that's just fashion, which is inherently worthless.
pete_dushenski: 'audiences' being 'the people' and therefore incapable of imparting value on anything whatsoever
nubbins`: maybe the insurance company has a very large need of biometric data when figuring out rates for a new policy program
nubbins`: but not so much of a need for em later.
nubbins`: what's the value of a sheet of toilet paper while you're taking a shit, vs while you're taking a shower?
nubbins`: would you pay $5 for it while you're shampooing your hair?
nubbins`: how 'bout when you just shit yourself in the parking lot outside the funeral home?
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: if said insurance company needs data now, why wouldn't it need more data later with which to compare the original info ?
nubbins`: if pumpkin futures for october are through the roof, why wouldn't they be even higher just after xmas?
pete_dushenski: but if, say, biometric data is a pre-condition for coverage, that doesn't mean that the insurance company should be paying you to use it
pete_dushenski: "One entity would be specialized in handling of coins. It would focus mostly on security, and could also offer processing for other things than exchanges (I’m thinking about Lightning, for example). Existing wallet services are probably in a good position to start working on this kind of solutions." << what a fucking retard. no spellcheck, no braincheck...
pete_dushenski: "let's decentralise the parts of a human body so that it can be more efficient"
pete_dushenski: "you take the legs, i'll take the chest, he'll take the ears !"
pete_dushenski: cripes you'd think that 600k coins or whatever he embezzled would buy him a tutor.
pete_dushenski: and a photographer with a proper camera for a portrait shot
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.20760911 = 1.038 BTC [+]
punkman: pete_dushenski: NewLiberty: you can self-voice dude << it says 0 via 2 there
fluffypony: jurov: I don't know if I can trust a website called "worldnewsdailyreport" :-P
punkman: magicaltux blogging again... just shameless isn't he.
pete_dushenski: NewLiberty: ah, i thought it was just assbot's l2 for some reason
NewLiberty: Fluffypony, have you digested the borromean ring stuff yet?
fluffypony: NewLiberty: no, too buggered and travelling at the moment, so will look at it on Friday once I've landed back in SA and spent a day recovering :)
NewLiberty: Yes, it is one that takes work. More so for me certainly.
williamdunne: punkman: Am I the only one thinking he might not be *entirely* to blame? (Entirely as if in he was incompetent, but someone else committed the bad deed.
fluffypony: adding it to Bitcoin won't add privacy
fluffypony: it's part of a wider crypto ecosystem that remains under wraps at the moment
fluffypony: but the advantage for Monero is that we may be able to adopt the scheme to reduce our signature size and verification effort
NewLiberty: Right, that is an important distinction.
NewLiberty: It does more for monero than for bitcoin
fluffypony: I'm terribly interested in what gmaxwell is up to, but he's already said that whatever guesses we have about this wider system we'd be wrong :)
williamdunne: Holy cow, SSDs have got cheaper since I last checked..
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski the problem with not shooting retards is that they accumulate.
williamdunne: Three year warranty on the 2tb one though kinda sucks
NewLiberty: The zero knowledge oracle pieces, Fiat-Shamir, being put to a good use would be a nice add.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00031568 = 3.3778 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: williamdunne being stupid and acting like you're important and should be relied on is something one gets blamed for entirely.
mircea_popescu: blame attaches according to sin, not according to the size of the fireball.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50500 @ 0.00031473 = 15.8939 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47200 @ 0.00031745 = 14.9836 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 20:24:23; ben_vulpes: make everyone feel really cool for investing
pete_dushenski: this is also teachers, nurses, doctors, lawyers, you name it.
assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 20:28:02; williamdunne: Thought they were derpy so wanted to discuss it on a public forum
mircea_popescu: "THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE WHO EXPECT US TO MAKE SENSE AND DONT CARE ABOUT HOW THIS MAKES US FEEL!!1"
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski there's a great seinfeld episode in which that weasel costanza goes to a job interview, decides to show up to work as if he had passed it, the somewhat confused receptionist gives him a choice of offices, he takes the smaller one.
BingoBoingo: taptweutmsadcahtmuf << I dunno this word, but "sad" seems important. Our cult gives outsiders the sads
mircea_popescu: then his boss comes back, discovers he's not done any work, and george goes "consider i am in the smaller office!"
mircea_popescu: by know there's an entire generation of this office scum : their job is to "x and be nice". they do exactly as much work as any guppi
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39200 @ 0.00031745 = 12.444 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: and guppi's expect to be treated "nice" in return
pete_dushenski: resulting in a very congenial, even convivial environs with which to get exactly nothing done
NewLiberty: pete_dushenski: the ultimate gmaxwell use remains a mystery, but the method described is also useful for other purposes which may be more immediately nice. (less computer resource needed for some monero functions)
pete_dushenski: NewLiberty: o_O gmaxwell de facto working on monero nao ?
assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 20:46:23; mats: the navy doesn't see nearly the same level of folks going to medical discharge boards
NewLiberty: Yes. The paper has some potentially helpful implications there.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Context of "williamdunne being stupid and acting like you're important and should be relied on is something one gets blamed for entirely."
mircea_popescu: magicaltux, and you're comment as ot whether "he's to blame entirely"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: yes, he is. nobody asked fatso to pretend like he's a banker nao.
williamdunne: Oh right, I meant that he might not be entirely responsible for the loss.
mircea_popescu: that is a certainty. most of the loss is purely imaginary anyway
mircea_popescu: like the TRILLIONS of dollars a derpy website "on the deep web o.O" that couldn't sell a kilo of coke is nevertheless associated with in usg paperwork.
mircea_popescu: indian candy prolly has more candy laying around her place than sr ever moved.
williamdunne: TBH every time more details come out about the whole MtGox shit-heap, it sounds more and more like there was a significant USG element to the almighty fuck up
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pete_dushenski: "Wang still feels as if he was unfairly rejected from the Ivies. "I think I deserve better than what I got," he said.""
pete_dushenski: This just in : azns are just as meta-fabulous as white kids
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108150 @ 0.00030853 = 33.3675 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: if the article's picture tells us anything, it's that the kid probably didn't woo the socks off the interview panel, if there even was one.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00031671 = 8.0761 BTC [+]
mats: mircea_popescu: mostly they starve you for days while you go on missions
mats: mircea_popescu: and then towards the end you have to pass a timed, weighted march after doing a 5mi run and some other events
mats: usually its the former that breaks people.
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> like the TRILLIONS of dollars a derpy website "on the deep web o.O" that couldn't sell a kilo of coke is nevertheless associated with in usg paperwork. <<< wasn't supposed to sell kilos of coke 8)
nubbins`: 6dollarshirts.com would probably have a very hard time selling cotton by the bale, as an analogy
mircea_popescu: nubbins` it got prosecuted for selling cotton by the bale, ftr.
mircea_popescu: i have no objection to whatever model being used, but it'd better be used consistently!
nubbins`: flew too close to the sun on wings made of wax.
mircea_popescu: in the terms it's being discussed (cotton baller), it sucked.
nubbins`: sure, but in terms of being a bald eagle, you suck.
pete_dushenski thought of george sr's 'cornballer' from arrested development
nubbins`: doesn't mean you're not a top bloke otherwise, regardless of the foolishness of your building an eyre or whatevertf
nubbins`: i figured you'd get something in motion when alf mentioned this a while back.
pete_dushenski: "As in the great days of the Studio System, NSA's star male lead spent a lot of time loaned out to other studios this Spring. The critically panned "RSA In The Soup!" trilogy was just packaged recently, while filming for the Thermonuked Chicken Saga continues." << haha priceless
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nubbins`: also an acronym for content management systems that don't manage things very well
nubbins`: HAHA HAPPY BIRTHDAY WE'RE GOING TO COVER YOU IN POLYURETHANE FOAM AND LIGHT YOU UP
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nubbins`: i think it was the tracksuit guy who doused her w/ flame
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pete_dushenski wonders if stan is more of a Vyuacheslav Savitskiy (cossack general turned silver screen star) or Aleksandr Voloshin (white army officer turned silver screen star)
mircea_popescu: nubbins` he does stand around suspiciously unconcerned
assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 23:46:20; williamdunne: Where are you based?
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 00:14:20; WolfGoethe: portland was nice. met a super model lookin type girl there... she told me she hasn;t had a date in 6 months.. i was like why??? she said because the guys in portland are to scared to even say hi to her... lol
mircea_popescu: so THIS is why ben_vulpes & trinque don't invite us over huh.
trinque: mircea_popescu: heh, and the german girls are too scared to visit!
mircea_popescu: im still having the occasional chuckle over that episode.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne honestly if i iwas doing fetish photography, i'd only use below average dudes.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne better trademark than you know, trying to put a watermark on the pics.
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assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 00:27:11; trinque: never do I look at my food or ass and say "goddamn someone needs to see this shit"
nubbins`: er well i guess babydick bros now
mircea_popescu: and then apply to the uk's service of investing in derpy airports in fucking plymouth
mircea_popescu: to give me $$$ because i hired the most unfortunate people alive
williamdunne: Hence why we have 1 billionaire out of (104?) in the UK
mircea_popescu: shut up, that's got staines in da hood there. represent
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 00:41:59; Adlai: !b 2
gribble: ุ ₍˄.͡˳̫.˄₎ ุ ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew*
pete_dushenski: that's what i thought too. like 3 years ago. guy's still at it and still winning
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williamdunne: In other news, CIPC (the South Africa company registration/copyright people) use the TIF image format exclusively
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.indiancandy1.1:b1b19f36f745b76e2d677cacd319cd1b9f52078b7606335173e617bf9e64bbca
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for indiancandy1 with note: williamdunne's hand puppet.
williamdunne: Although she doesn't have the key to access it D:
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 01:20:57; williamdunne: Can kakro overrule this when he is online I wonder?
mircea_popescu: williamdunne teaches you to ask the girl if she's on contraception BEFORE sticking it in.
williamdunne: mYeah, guessing the only option is a new nick, or to work out her password
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mircea_popescu: indeed. you can't administratively undo people's keys, thinkaboutit.
williamdunne: Guessing he has access to the DB, but yeah I kinda see why he shouldn't
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 01:49:50; WolfGoethe: only the geekiest of the crypto geeks would go thru all that just to post big booty pics
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williamdunne: Did you see the response Sandhill gave me when I asked if they were gonna leave the US?
mircea_popescu: what's happening there is, "all i know how to do is spend the unemployment benefits. i can only talk to girls if they share X Y Z very narrow preconceptions, my conversation revolves around internet faux news and internet faux outrage" etc.
chetty: williamdunne, yeah but where to? pretty much all like that these days
williamdunne: chetty: Seems like the USG is the only one who would prosecute someone for offering CFDs built on smart-contracts
williamdunne: chetty: Much like Argentina so far hasn't given two shits that MP runs MPEX (AFAIK)
nubbins`: neither did SEC, as it turns out
williamdunne: But they have previously fined people for running bitcoin securities
mircea_popescu: williamdunne you know there's a shitload more to it than "saying so on reddit".
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 03:07:55; trinque: my well of hate for this mentality is bottomless
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williamdunne: So I'm guessing if MP was US citizen or lived in US, they would have tried something
williamdunne: So more a matter of practicality rather than if they care or not
williamdunne: Its not like S.DICE lost investors money, ran a ponzi, or whatever
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Exactly, only the USG seems to care
williamdunne: Hence why I think they should tell the US to go fuck itself and move pretty much anywhere
mircea_popescu: you will note that contrary to deceitful reporting to the contrary, by both the sec itself and the usg prop machine,
mircea_popescu: what was involved was, the guy, and his feed ze birds glbse asset.
mircea_popescu: of which nobody much heard or cares to much remember, but nevertheless.
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 07:15:59; cazalla: qntra down for anyone else? ddos back eh?
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 11:07:58; cazalla: the barter ocf mentions a "Pietila Group" so i guess it might be him
williamdunne1: This is getting very annoying, can't get back into williamdunne
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 11:30:01; jurov: dunno how that could be easily fixed. since mircea recoiled in horror from the "proxied php" setup, he can't easily split tittylick.php into other process with higher priority
williamdunne: I founded BarterOCF it is mi favorit AMAZING company
mircea_popescu suspects this entire pietilla thing is elaborate parody.
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mircea_popescu: very well made, at that, so allow me to be the first one to clap.
diana_coman: I've got eulora to compile under windows 8.1, but then the client quits: "psclient has stopped working. Windows is checking for a solution to the problem..."
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diana_coman: neah, it waits a bit and then it "will let you know" when it finds one :)))
williamdunne: Traditionally the response is "have you tried turning it off and on again"
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diana_coman: yeah, I have the misfortune of having enough windows experience to know the famous "cure"
williamdunne: In fairness, I've had to do that a few times on Ubuntu
williamdunne: Hell, some stuff has been more stable on my windows machine than on here, but not all that much
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diana_coman: ubuntu is nowadays very much like windows I'd say
diana_coman: the reason for which I am currently seriously searching for some OS to have on my machine, as I can't stand ubuntu anymore
chetty: just stop upgrading it, stick with an old version
mircea_popescu: yeah, nothing past 10.04 was ever approved for usage anyway.
diana_coman: well yes, that's what I did for the moment: got an older version
mircea_popescu: mod6 was working on getting one together but im sure he can use help
williamdunne: The only reason Ubuntu is nice, is that everything is packageized
diana_coman: it could be interesting - I'll need to have a look at gentoo as I haven't really looked at it in ages
mircea_popescu: debian used to work. then it got packaged into ubuntu, and the remainder was shot in the head with systemd crapolade.
williamdunne: Oh, great. All I want is a stable OS with a well populated package manager
mircea_popescu: myeah. a b-a os, in the shape of an usable open source something without idiocy/usgity baked in and with decent defaults so that people can install it without dedicating their life to it is ever more required.
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pete_dushenski: "Starting on 27 June 2015, SMS notifications from Google Calendar will no longer be sent. SMS notifications were launched before smartphones were available. Now, in a world with smartphones and notifications, you can get a richer, more reliable experience on your mobile device, even offline." << well fuck that.
chetty: everyone must have a 'smartphone', how else they gonna keep track of you?
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pete_dushenski: as if writing 1000 lines a week in here wasn't enough data.
Naphex: (has no idea what 8chan is )
williamdunne: Naphex: I'll be in Bucharest next week to audition for you
Naphex: williamdunne: will actually be in mamaia from saturday
Naphex: mircea_popescu: yeah ofcourse,we got some romanian playboy model
Naphex: and some other gimmicks :P
mircea_popescu: Naphex daca-mi trimiti ceva poze ok & exclusive iti fac articol pe trilema.
Naphex: mircea_popescu: aye, rezolv de toate
Naphex: o sa-i zic la cora sa pregateasca
williamdunne: Naphex: Fuck it, I'd actually go to that summit with you, but I've got a flight to Prague on Thursday
mircea_popescu: Naphex da' pizda goala nu cacaturi. trilema e anti softcore
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski ancient trilema commenter chick used to link to foib.org
hanbot: mircea_popescu if trilema is anti-softcore why isn't shit allowed?
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hanbot: thanks pete. damned if i ever manage it correctly on the first try
jurov: why no one is hosting .txt version of stuff themselves?
pete_dushenski: i'd guess that something in the order of 30% of deeds are correctly submitted and accepted on the 1st try.
jurov: still, not having to copy text from html can be handy when deedbot link is not provided
jurov: everyone just copies the clearsigned test and pastes it to wordpress
☟︎ jurov: it may be a problem to get the text back so that it verifies
jurov: so i'm asking to upload the original as attachemnt
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 19:14:23; mircea_popescu: myeah. a b-a os, in the shape of an usable open source something without idiocy/usgity baked in and with decent defaults so that people can install it without dedicating their life to it is ever more required.
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hanbot: jurov yeah i think i'll adopt your method from now on.
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mircea_popescu: U.S. ambassador to England, Joseph Kennedy, also told the studios to stop making pro-British and anti-German films, as British defeat was imminent and there was no point in America holding out alone: 'With England licked, the party's over.'
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assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 15:03:12; mike_c: cazalla: I'm going to try dual-booting another box of mine and see if i can get eulora/ubuntu going. I'll post my step-by-step if it works
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lobbes: 'From September, 1939, until January, 1940, all films that could be considered anti-Nazi were banned by the Hays Office.'
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assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 03:07:55; trinque: my well of hate for this mentality is bottomless
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trinque: black hole of meta-identity and retirement at 25
lobbes: ;;later tell WolfGoethe btw, you should get a cloak (ask on #freenode)
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thestringpuller: in alternate timeline superman falls to soviet russia and is raised as communist
trinque: thestringpuller: the horror!
trinque: is there some time-warp scenario where american and comrade superman do battle?
punkman: someone wants to do phuctoring on github
ascii_field: punkman: wtf. as if you can't get ssh pubkey just by connecting to random boxen
thestringpuller: pretty sure ascii_field would be on team Comrade Batman. :P
jurov: lol i actually started scraping github keys today , with this intention
jurov: but with their ratelimiting, might take over a week
punkman: seems like the guy found a bunch of people using keys generated while Debians OpenSSH could only make 32k distinct keys
jurov: unless someone here generates and donates their oauth key
mircea_popescu: Debians OpenSSH could only make 32k distinct keys << o.O
punkman: who doesn't remember THE debian bug
punkman: granted, so many of these fuckups going on every year
jurov: they even hacked debian servers and stole the source code!!!
mircea_popescu: On May 13th, 2008 Seems that the bug was introduced in September 2006.
mircea_popescu: Instead of mixing in random data for the initial seed, the only "random" value that was used was the current process ID. On the Linux platform, the default maximum process ID is 32,768, resulting in a very small number of seed values being used for all PRNG operations.
mircea_popescu: "Back when the NSA was routinely weakening commercial cryptography, their favorite technique was reducing the entropy of the random number generator."
trinque: "wide-area mass surveillance and location tracking of entire cities and towns."
trinque: maybe munching on cell phones, wifi, so on
punkman: why do they register these and let them show up on flightradar24?
☟︎ ascii_field: punkman: generally u.s. airplanes are required to broadcast id
ascii_field: punkman: for reasons i cannot fathom, usg does not even exempt its own snoops from this.
☟︎☟︎ punkman: I remember some artist guy that dug-up a similar list of air transport shell companies that were used to move prisoners around
williamdunne: jurov: Nice move, I'm still amazed .net is being OSS'd
williamdunne: I'm just hoping and praying Android ends up running .net
trinque: I'm skeptical that company can ever do anything right
mircea_popescu: ascii_field easy to fathom tho. one of those rotten cases where the exemption is louder than the thing it covers.
williamdunne: trinque: Honestly, recently I think they've been doing some great stuff.
trinque: williamdunne: nadella does seem to be doing his damnedest to right the ship
williamdunne: Aye, Visual Studio community, OSS'ing .net being my two favourites
trinque: ^ this is exactly what I expect of their recent "great stuff"
trinque: openssh gets tied into some windows auth mechanism, so on
trinque: but who knows, apple looked dead once
ascii_field: microshit attempted this with every single thing it ever touched
trinque: still is dead for some measures
trinque: right, this looks just like how they approached the web. open standards? sure! sounds great
trinque: oh... try some activex though
trinque: williamdunne: does for example the open source .net ship any opaque binary wads?
williamdunne: trinque: I don't believe so, but I haven't checked it in its entirely
jurov: mircea_popescu you've got depositz :)
trinque: williamdunne: or maybe the post-oracle virtualbox approach
trinque: where it has "non-free" extensions
williamdunne: IIRC the logic was that they want to promote their development tools, and premium products such as SQL server by making their stuff more prolific
jurov: kako's cat has spoken
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ascii_field: 'But instead of routinely feeding U.S. intelligence agencies such data, the companies would be required to turn it over only in response to a government request approved by the secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.' << l0l, the same 'court' which consists of a remotely-operated rubber stamp for director of intel.
trinque: ascii_field: progress! this will cost far less. god bless the free market.
trinque: fascism is that thing where you cook jews in ovens, and wear stylish hugo boss uniforms, right?
ascii_field: and it looks like somebody's ddosing sks ?
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ascii_field: but of course, as with the 32-bit 'magic set', the bottom 32 are the same, and this key would probably work in some winblows turd pgptron
ascii_field: at this point it probably makes sense to churn the entire sks db for tuples of keys having same userid and date, and diff all said tuples.
☟︎ jurov: ascii_field: neither url works
jurov: Page not found: /key/0x4372F22E6DF53A6B
ascii_field: see the earlier linked image for which bytes were altered
jurov: heh it's even visible in exported format
jurov: only 5th row changed
jurov: was bad endianness handling ever mentioned as possible culprit?
jurov: but then the bytes would be shuffled, not bits reversed
☟︎ ascii_field: jurov: why would this affect the exponent (magic-98 set, rather than this latest one) and adjust the length field correctly ?
ascii_field: endian issue was the first hypothesis i considered - and rejected
ascii_field: jurov: those things were crafted. not a shred of doubt remains in my mind about it.
ascii_field: crafted with an angle towards 'plausible deniability if one doesn't look too closely,' yes
trinque: I was just about to ask the same :)
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trinque: what's this, bots here to munch logs?
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alphonse23_: this is the channel that announced that they factore a 4067 rsa key
trinque: alphonse23_: note that this does not mean RSA in the abstract is broken
trinque: it means some implementation *may* be
alphonse23_: trinque: I know! I'm not that big of a noob
trinque: just tends to be the first thing that comes up
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shinohai: I have so much reading left to do danielpbarron
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trinque: danielpbarron: looks like he explained himself rather thoroughly eh?
shinohai: I'm trying to catch up on the entire mailing list before I joined. :/
shinohai: Yeah. I like the bash logs, I can even read those on android.
trinque: alphonse23_: that irccloud thing seems like a turd
trinque: if the logs are any indication
alphonse23_: I decided I use IRC enough to pay for the service
shinohai: For real. I use a shell and weechat
trinque: alphonse23_: all clients do logs
alphonse23_: yes, they keep track of the history of all the channels I'm in
shinohai: I can grep logs right from my client
alphonse23_: I think I got it specificically for channels that I wanted to logged, that didn't have anyone doing it for them.
trinque: alphonse23_: dude, all clients log
alphonse23_: really? but do you keep your computer on at all times?
trinque: ah ok, I see what you mean by log now
trinque: alphonse23_: this is generally a "bouncer" you run elsewhere from your local computer
trinque: and which you connect to with your client
trinque: they've webified that, but people have done it since ancient times
trinque: ben_vulpes: make app icon! raise 15m! year later, raze your business!
jurov: i got some results from /explore but i have no idea about them yet
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Not that I know of, but dude wanted to know if it was trolling, so the solution is point them to the fount of data
trinque: alphonse23_: yup, or run a second box at home
trinque: decent intro to fiddling with such things if you never have
alphonse23_: I wonder though. I pay irccloud 5 dollars a month
BingoBoingo: alphonse23_: Well, if you want to be a dick you could use botnet slaves as IRC bouncer, but easier to leave an old machine on at home to bounce IRC. Black and white Macs are ideal
danielpbarron: i assumed anything that he might have read that pointed to this channel would have also linked to the real phuctor but yeah ok
☟︎ alphonse23_: owning a server, even if it's through digital ocean, would still be slightly more expensive.
trinque: I think linode starts out at 10 bucks a month
trinque: tons of virtual hosting things out there
trinque: the main benefit would be learning
alphonse23_: k, I have othing things I'd like to learn that to setup something to log an irc channel
alphonse23_: for instance, I'd like to actually understands rsa factoring
alphonse23_: does 4096 refer to the max size of one of the primes. or the primes multiplied togetheR?
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alphonse23_: I bet even if I knew what that algorithm is, Id' still have doubts
NewLiberty: $10/month is about equiv to the electricity cost of a 120v machine running 24/7 for a year
BingoBoingo: trinque: Kako's cat prolly typed assbot too. Either that or there is another dispute over the pod bay doors.
BingoBoingo: NewLiberty: All depends on the machine and amps.
trinque: BingoBoingo: dispute over the pod bay doors << bwhahahaha
NewLiberty: I'm on solar so, up to what I produce, no added cost
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