assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00082205 / 0.00086299 / 0.00092833 (1150566 shares, 992.94 BTC), 7D: 0.00082205 / 0.00090036 / 0.00092833 (7719450 shares, 6,950.33 BTC), 30D: 0.00062972 / 0.00088601 / 0.00092833 (25031810 shares, 22,178.65 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00083712 = 3.8508 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.459 = 1.377 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26155 @ 0.00083804 = 21.9189 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8257 @ 0.00083819 = 6.9209 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 17 @ 0.12454704 = 2.1173 BTC [-] {2}
bloctoc: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:6342e952a759968f287444c3b7b1bacd364c21a3edafff7d0ebdb09b
gribble: You are now authenticated for user bloctoc with key ABFF7572BA373348
bloctoc: how does one call gribble if he's not already spammed you?
ArsKisS: where did all these walls come to cryptostocks :O
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.000838 = 5.3632 BTC [-]
ArsKisS: VanCleef, sbfs for example
ArsKisS: i can't say they are BIG, but they are definately bigger than what we are used to novadays
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00083543 = 10.5264 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.000838 = 11.732 BTC [+]
ozbot: Loper OS » Cardano Prototype Tidbits: TRNG Boards.
truffles: just saw the game BingoBoingo did u get hammered towards the end geeeeez
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 34 @ 0.02520998 = 0.8571 BTC [+]
Vexual: asciilifeform, do not use if sheild is missing, what is this?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.04999999 = 0.3 BTC [+]
Vexual: can you tell us how many of the first run are sld?
Vexual: oh, i thought thats how peeps got tshirts
nubbins`: afaik they were given to various business associates
nubbins`: at least that's what i gather from where they ended up :D
nubbins`: the folks at Make would probably love one
Vexual: any kickbacks planned for creators of bubblegum luser-interfaces?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00083468 = 10.2666 BTC [-]
Vexual: not sure really, im just imagining they might be useful for more than intended
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4599 BTC [+]
Vexual: let me ponder it, ill get back to you
nubbins`: vexual, i think generally those who can't figure out the device as it exists probably don't have a pressing need for one, either :)
nubbins`: i can think of several people i know for whom that's incomprehensible
diametric: i have determined i have no clue how to write a contract.
nubbins`: i know a while back, 3 units for 1 btc was floated... is there a usd price point in mind?
nubbins`: diametric: what sort of contract?
nubbins`: yeah, i figured sales would be btc only
Vexual: so no plan for my third cousin to sccess her iphoto library with a cardano yet then?
nubbins`: i'm just trying to get a feel for how much they cost. i don't think 0.333 btc is still the intended sale price at the current exchange rate :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.000838 = 2.2626 BTC [+]
nubbins`: i'll print a single t-shirt of any design for $70 :)
Vexual: plus you had to shut down your meth lab for reflow, gotta price that in
nubbins`: i'm on several lists as well, although for different reasons :D
diametric: speaking of, i need images i can do test rasters now
Vexual: doing that in-house too?
nubbins`: diametric: regarding contracts, find one you like the format of and use that as a guide
nubbins`: Vexual: afaik you can't 3d print clear things
diametric: theres are a few optically correct filaments
nubbins`: costly per-unit too, i'd imagine
Vexual: can you print a form for blow moulding?
diametric: the acrylic cases will be much nicer.
truffles: nubins did u play chess already?
truffles: i should prob play before i get the later half of a buzz marathon
nubbins`: ah, im actually gonna be turning in soon. i have a rare early rise tomorrow :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.0008397 = 22.8398 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32300 @ 0.00084126 = 27.1727 BTC [+]
KingAlex: !wallet 197BAHQNBbrXKM8SAPaGGbr7enoyxMwzyQ
ozbot: Mori/Ellison gyroscope unlocking
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43300021 BTC [-]
Vexual: if usmil saw fit they can spoof from the sats over a small area, alowing a moved usesful factory to continue
Vexual: but the sats crank out some power
Vexual: if they own the machine, surely they can create a different gps out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00083914 = 9.734 BTC [-]
Vexual: i can make my boat look like its anywhere on ais
Vexual: but saying you're in the south china sea when thats out of vhf range is pointless, same is probably true with signal spoofing gps
Vexual: whya are these cncs so sesitive?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17577 @ 0.00083914 = 14.7496 BTC [-]
Vexual: sounds a lot like a cd player with better lenses
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.45999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.004597 = 0.1379 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00084126 = 13.9649 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: the lenses neing software rather than optics
nubbins`: mildly amusing that you can disable hardware without even remote access to it :D
Vexual: a gps sat needs an atomic clock to provide the accuracy for the reciever to exprapolate an accurate aproximation, a cd player just needs to know the wavelength
nubbins`: gps taught me that time dilation has practical applications
nubbins`: asciilifeform: no doubt, but that was my introduction
Vexual: doeth anyone use crt anymore?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17050 @ 0.00084143 = 14.3464 BTC [+]
nubbins`: pretty sure there's a joke about Zenith in there somewhere
nubbins`: i'll leave the details to someone else
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12665 @ 0.00084143 = 10.6567 BTC [+]
nubbins`: my relatives have a frigidaire refrigerator that's 70 years old. still works.
nubbins`: granted, it doesn't dispense ice cubes
Vexual: those fuckers always slapsh gin on the floor
Vexual: ice cube dispensers too nubs :)
nubbins`: my folks have a 40+ year old washing machine
nubbins`: it's at the point now where one is pleased to see a well-built, serviceable piece of equipment
nubbins`: i felt like a million bucks after doing some light mods to my press
Vexual: the beauty is you can see other humans that select for this
nubbins`: what were those ones with the funny processors?
nubbins`: fujitsu, i think, is what i'm thinking of
nubbins`: had a line of netbook-size machines with transmeta cpus
Vexual: but 500$ nix outta box, sold
nubbins`: still have the machine, yep. still works.
Vexual: id love to get my hands on one of those
nubbins`: i lost my developer key, unfortunately
nubbins`: stuck with "sugar" until/unless i can sort that out
nubbins`: honestly truly enjoy the macbook keyboard
Vexual: 5 year old macbook is a nice machine
nubbins`: asciilifeform: this one still runs like a champ
Vexual: i mean the b4 intel one
nubbins`: my wife's fell to it some years back
nubbins`: although the laptop before this one drank a full beer
Vexual: thats where my keyboards go
Vexual: those librettos look much the same as the predecessors with 0 colour, yes thats definately dot matrix screens
Vexual: u want a big battery and a duty case?
Vexual: no such could make one with 8 bootable ssd slots
nubbins`: lifecycles is part of the problem too
nubbins`: after a point you're looking at bespoke parts
nubbins`: iirc, ford made a car with a stainless steel chassis in the 20s
Vexual: detrimental to inner components, being higher up the electrolytic scale than almost everything
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19724 @ 0.00084143 = 16.5964 BTC [+]
nubbins`: when i read about it as a kid, the book claimed that the chassis had so far outlasted something like 4 engines
Vexual: id like a ford with four of those 1l ecoboots engines and electrinic throttle running each wheel
Vexual: and were all living on this rock at the same time
Vexual: heres a thought, can current pop ever exceed ancestors?
Vexual: wasnt aware of man belts
ozbot: Human Leather Exclusive Products - Exquisite Wallets, Belts, Shoes
nubbins`: "for the gentleman who has everything"
Vexual: gentlemen dont wear human leather
nubbins`: i'd buy a belt made from the skin of someone with a ton of moles
Vexual: its so thin, you'd need bovine backing
Vexual: and to maintain the evil mage business, it would need to be obtained from some holy hindu place
Vexual: aren't there a few churches that claim to have our lord foreskin?
diametric: Vexual: you just gave me the greatest idea.
diametric: the bible is full of references to foreskin as a currency
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
Vexual: not coin, it's the kin that went before
Vexual: cremated to a blockchain
nubbins`: i knew a guy who claimed to have been in the wet parts business for a while
diametric: specifically, David of David and Goliath bought his wife with 200 Philistine foreskins
Vexual: id like to see a supply chain block chain, so i can get 2 % on tshirts that nubbins sells on my design etc
nubbins`: i'll give ya more than 2% if you get the sales
Vexual: brother im all about the supply chain
Vexual: how much downtime you wanna fill?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02521 = 0.1261 BTC [+]
Vexual: we'll go with the old shitload of residual incme and do what you like model
ozbot: Aphrodite - Style from the Dark Side - YouTube
Vexual: now you have an artis come with a market and you do the printing?
nubbins`: yeah, we've been getting more into that lately
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.03485885 = 0.244 BTC [-] {3}
Vexual: apart from running your machines into the night with an artisan hand when need be
Vexual: like, you sorta get a corel file, work your magic, and then get bitcoin or canadian paper?
nubbins`: we do a combination of client work and dicking around on our own
Vexual: does dicking around sell?
truffles: is there a package of dicking or package of dicks?
Vexual: yeah we only ever see client work
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: occasionaly we even print on old things :D
Vexual: don't put that in your acid zine
nubbins`: there are a lot of dicks in the acid zines, usually
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: managed to sneak a dick into the local paper, even
Vexual: i steal em and put em back
nubbins`: was particularly proud of that one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00084143 = 12.916 BTC [+]
nubbins`: mildly surprised they (a) chose it and (b) gave it a full page spread on the first page of section B
truffles: gotta stare at it to tell its a sack
Vexual: it looks like a fucked up mickey mouse in basketball shoes
Vexual: ill draw you a lemonade stand in shaky biro, with a complete lsd lab drawn in chem notation
Vexual: $120 bucks each in bondi
ozbot: Have You Ever Been (to Electric Ladyland)-Jimi Hendrix (with lyrics) - YouTube
truffles: he's not that great at singing..
Vexual: i will need to say @when life gives you lemons@ for the full hipster irony, otherwise $20
Vexual: this might be a uk keyboard
Vexual: theyre those people that pay $120 for a tshirt
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32800 @ 0.0008399 = 27.5487 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: major in language studies at mit
Vexual: you might be a hipster
Vexual: do you eat pistachios on a handmade picnic rug?
truffles: no i just have a paper towel out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24150 @ 0.00083928 = 20.2686 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: well hipsters are the kids of hippies that sold their soul and made some money
truffles: i was wondering whatever happened to all the hippies
Vexual: nubbins' showed a gif of the supposedly gone woodie guthrie
truffles: how does one sell a soul though
Vexual: hippies inventened the butterlfy affect as seen in humanity
Vexual: you see butterfly tramp stamps, but a sould cant be sold
ozbot: Busta Rhymes - Thank You ft. Q-Tip, Kanye West, Lil Wayne - YouTube
Vexual: then you've considered butterflies
Vexual: that unpopular phrase globalisation didnt haven without people moving house
KRS1: hey this song good yo
Vexual: going back to selling your soul
Vexual: you're the master of what your soul absorbs
truffles: i may have to step away based on events in the house ya know
Vexual: i think bongo is alergic to vodka
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [+]
Vexual: gin is served with ice, vodka should be at room tmep
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1120 @ 0.00009501 = 0.1064 BTC [-] {3}
Vexual: get me some orange sherbert
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8840 @ 0.00009501 = 0.8399 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3173 @ 0.00083924 = 2.6629 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25327 @ 0.00083699 = 21.1984 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22998 @ 0.00084193 = 19.3627 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2000 @ 0.00047496 = 0.9499 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21302 @ 0.00083517 = 17.7908 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 130 @ 0.001 = 0.13 BTC [+]
KRS1: whats up with ghash.io..
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00083468 = 23.1624 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.0399499 = 0.2397 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5512 @ 0.00083694 = 4.6132 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13988 @ 0.00083694 = 11.7071 BTC [+]
KRS1: so do you all think ghash.io is going to harm the network
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5301 @ 0.00084124 = 4.4594 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12299 @ 0.00084054 = 10.3378 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32210 @ 0.00084164 = 27.1092 BTC [+] {2}
KRS1: i've been expecting a drop, not this rise =/
KRS1: where'd i go wrong in my analysis
truffles: coinye brought it up with the swag
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.46079996 = 2.304 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.46929999 = 4.693 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23250 @ 0.00084175 = 19.5707 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00084077 = 13.3682 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: bitbet is hysterical, all these volunteer armchair pilots for it.
mircea_popescu: i am starting to suspect the main reason rich people become assholes is that they eventually get sick of all the poor people who refuse to see the difference.
ozbot: 1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 767 blocks | Estimated Change: 18.3651% in 4d 8h 17m 7s
truffles: so ure not saying ure not a complete asshole but on the cusp?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 54 @ 0.49509632 = 26.7352 BTC [+] {20}
mircea_popescu: i have no idea what it is, outside of a pulp fiction reference.
truffles: well its not that great of a show
ozbot: Fonzie Jumps the Shark on Happy Days (Episode 5.3) 1977 - YouTube
mircea_popescu: ol wait, this is the original "jump the shark" show huh ?
mircea_popescu: i take it back, i've nothing to do with that toothy derp.
truffles: he made the jump, whats the derp about
ozbot: Mork Meets The Fonz - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6455 @ 0.00084077 = 5.4272 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7745 @ 0.00084054 = 6.51 BTC [-]
truffles: blog topic im interested in, are smart people in general more selfish
truffles: obv u can include stuff about asses and holes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9931 @ 0.00084028 = 8.3448 BTC [-] {2}
deanclkclk: anyone here who's a money manager? I want to ask something about fractional reserve banking
deanclkclk: or anyone here who understand franctional reserve banking
deanclkclk: well just looking at a t account..how can fractional reserve banking be inflationary
deanclkclk: what is loan out (asset to the bank) is always equal to it's liability (deposit)?
deanclkclk: if the depositor withdraws money ..it comes from the bank reserves
mircea_popescu: that'd be rising prices. traditionally inflation is defined as that state where the monetary mass increases.
mircea_popescu: if in 2010 the total volume of payment insturments is 5, and in 2011 it's 6, then you've had a 20% inflation.
deanclkclk: in an investment bank...one which the depositor can't withdraw from his account because, he knows the bank doesn't have it (it's loan out)..that's isn't inflationary
deanclkclk: but, it is said in a fractional reserve bank...the depositor still has access to his deposit even though it's loan out
deanclkclk: because if deposit is 9 == loan 8 + reserve 1
mircea_popescu: well, you've constructed it so it doesn't make any sense. take a better example : say i run a whorehouse and you bring me your wife. then one day you want to have sex. just because i've sent her to work the streets of mexico doesn't mean you can't have sex,
mircea_popescu: am i running fractional reserve whorehouse ? no. do you still get to have sex, even if your own wife is out ? sure.
deanclkclk: if the depositor withdraws from his account ...how would that show on the T account?
mircea_popescu: myeah. best i can tell, you've painted yourself in a corner trying to understand this and now nothing makes sense.
deanclkclk: well if someone can show me how that would reflect on a T account..it would make a whole lotta sense
deanclkclk: I'm just wondering how that would show
mircea_popescu: central bank creates 10 bucks. pushes 2 each to 5 commercial banks. the banks loan out 50 bucks each, on the grounds that they are required by cb to keep 10% in reserves.
deanclkclk: banks == liability (deposit $10) and assets (loan $9 & reserve $1)
mircea_popescu: now, the monetary mass at the cb level is 100, and the monetary mass at the cb level is 500
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00084234 = 1.811 BTC [+] {2}
deanclkclk: banks == liability (deposit $10) and assets (loan $9 & reserve $1)
deanclkclk: so what if..the depositor wants to withdraw his 10 dollars
deanclkclk: how would that show on the banks T account?
deanclkclk: yeah the 1 dollar is their current asset
mircea_popescu: step 2 : withraw the 10 : deposit 0, loan 9, reserve 1, owed 10 to liquidity provider
mircea_popescu: this bank now owes the 10 it owed before, except not to its original depositor.
mircea_popescu: note that accounting generally is just a convention, and it may be uniquely adequate or uniquely inadequate to resolve any factual problems. in some formulations inflation is opaque to accounting, in some others quite transparent. this doesn't make inflation go away, even if it's very tempting for all governments historically to pretend so.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7392 @ 0.00084236 = 6.2267 BTC [+]
deanclkclk: yes I know mircea_popescu but, I'm just wondering how would that show on the account
deanclkclk: but, with a deposit being 0...wouldn't that cause the T account to not be balanced?
mircea_popescu: nope. you still owe 10, but not to depositors anymore, to liquidity provider instead.
mircea_popescu: it goes from liabilities 10 (depositors) to liabilities 10 (government) or w/e
deanclkclk: ohh so the liquidity provider funds the 10 dollars to pay back the depositor?
deanclkclk: liquidity provider in this case will be the central bank
mircea_popescu: someone will have to, as the 9 loaned out are loaned on terms and can't (in this example we use) be recalled.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00084219 = 9.7273 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: this is why the libor originally existed : so banks can liquidify each oth\er
mircea_popescu: the interest they settled on becoming the "fair" interest for everyone, smaller players
mircea_popescu: if it is the central bank you have by any sensible definition a central command economy like the soviets, and even discussing "banks" is just a masquerade
deanclkclk: but, if the banks are funding themselves..would that not increase the total stock of money?
deanclkclk: because, if bank A give to Bank B...bank A is decreasing it's money stock and giving it to Bank B
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17311 @ 0.00083963 = 14.5348 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00083961 = 13.8536 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 370 @ 0.001 = 0.37 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3213 @ 0.00083961 = 2.6977 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4316 @ 0.00083468 = 3.6025 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22133 @ 0.0008367 = 18.5187 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31799 @ 0.00083456 = 26.5382 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56888 @ 0.00083424 = 47.4582 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 24 @ 0.02520706 = 0.605 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46010011 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1712 @ 0.00083386 = 1.4276 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25188 @ 0.0008331 = 20.9841 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.04999999 = 5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7259 @ 0.00083687 = 6.0748 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 156 @ 0.0046 = 0.7176 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00083899 = 10.0259 BTC [+] {2}
kleeck0: So, I'm confused. Should I stop mining on ghash.io?
kleeck0: Reddit is ablaze with STOP DAT GHASH!
taub_: some hard movement on gox
Duffer1: too many of the gigahashes
mircea_popescu: i guess this explains why elegius actually found a coupla blocks today
Duffer1: 42+% of the network + attempted double spends on gambling sites
ozbot: GHash.IO and double-spending against BetCoin Dice
mircea_popescu: Like a month ago, in September I witnessed a lot of double-spending against BetCoin Dice. I
mircea_popescu: clueless dice site clone guy can't read/doesn't understand what's going on
mircea_popescu: before their pliant attitude to the -dev chan pretty much cost them their business ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14791 @ 0.00084011 = 12.4261 BTC [+]
KRS1: i think they did something about it..ghash.io isnt maybe
mircea_popescu: course reddit is about as likely to change weather patterns as it is likely to have any impact on this matter, but naywya.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11095 @ 0.00083988 = 9.3185 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 140 @ 0.0046 = 0.644 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00083945 = 11.2486 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00083897 = 3.6495 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 556 @ 0.001 = 0.556 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02559 = 0.1024 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00083901 = 12.6691 BTC [+] {2}
KRS1: why is not my cardano insured? INFIDELS
mike_c: whoa, they use "deep cold storage". that sounds better.
mike_c: biz idea: "super-deep frozen storage".
Troic_: the policy sucks, claims calculated in BTC; if rate has gone down, but GBP at insure date if rate has gone up.
Troic_: 2% of total cover, in GBP
Duffer1: you pay more to insure at x value of fiat
Duffer1: dunno what their policy is if/when it goes below that..
the20year: fiat insurance is 2% or higher from Lloyds?
Duffer1: er nm i suppose that wouldn't matter for theft insurance
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10045 @ 0.00083989 = 8.4367 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3955 @ 0.00083882 = 3.3175 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21750 @ 0.00084168 = 18.3065 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00084219 = 1.9791 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 4000 @ 0.001 = 4 BTC [+]
KRS1: is it better to have deep or cold storage
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.46200116 = 0.924 BTC [+] {2}
KRS1: like..if I have a wallet, I need it to be deep for fat stacks, but if its cold I can't exactly whip it out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16546 @ 0.00084232 = 13.937 BTC [+] {2}
mike_c: that's a big problem with bitcoin. you can't roll up a fat stack with a rubber band and slap them on the table.
Duffer1: paper wallets, 1 satoshi each
Duffer1: biggest stack of $$ you've ever seen
mike_c: totally agreed! that's why horse races are more exciting than nascar.
Duffer1: watching water boil is more exciting than nascar
pankkake: and why ponygirl races are more exciting than horse races
mike_c: well, they do trip occasionally and then got shot right out on the track.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4620505 = 0.9241 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: fun fact : the us has been quietly returning gold to germany
mircea_popescu: "it had to be melted for transport" says the official story.
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 well... depends how much you've been following the precious metal wranglings
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00084227 = 1.7688 BTC [-]
Duffer1: ah ya i haven't followed metals at all
mike_c: not having the stamps is interesting. yet another confirmation that the fed plays games with other countries deposits.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00084134 = 15.6069 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: mike_c course there's not really enough gold on deposit to be doing it
mircea_popescu: so unless china graciously decided to lend... or else maybe russia ?
mircea_popescu: or japan. india isn't, and there just aren't that many folks with gold
mike_c: no way china would lend us gold
mircea_popescu: seeing how it's worthless and not particularly important in modern finance etc.
mike_c: that's why. gold is the only thing it hoards.
mike_c: at least until it starts hoarding btc
mircea_popescu: and as the inept leadership oif the us has been giving them absolutely all the techs in the most incredible transfer of wealth/spoliage in human history,
mike_c: it collects ip. hoarding would indicate it is creating ip and not sharing.
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine why they'd care about lending a little gold so various us idiots can save a little face.
mircea_popescu: you don't get to see what it develops on top of what it loots from us corps.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00084246 = 22.9149 BTC [+] {2}
mike_c: invisible ip? what are they doing that is so cool?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 20719 @ 0.001 = 20.719 BTC [+]
mike_c: they can keep the cheap kewpie doll ip.
mircea_popescu: anyway, THEIR nsa isn't being riddled with fuckwith trannies that turncoat, so you don';t really know what they are doing.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.00299668 = 0.2937 BTC [+]
KRS1: thought he was espanish
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00299668 = 0.1648 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla anyway, that's kind-of culture shock. the chinese do that sort of thing in chinese all the time. very self-stroking culture, it's not quite as wow as in european terms
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00084128 = 1.304 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.00464999 = 0.6975 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 61 @ 0.00465 = 0.2837 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00083876 = 9.9393 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.462011 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.04999999 = 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00298191 = 2.9819 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 12 @ 0.10035833 = 1.2043 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02559 = 0.1791 BTC [+]
deadweasel: These nice new cheap samsung monitors are less appealing now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26750 @ 0.00083876 = 22.4368 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 625 @ 0.000475 = 0.2969 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.0008391 = 10.1112 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 15266 @ 0.005 = 76.33 BTC {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46500 @ 0.00083925 = 39.0251 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 60 @ 0.005 = 0.3 BTC {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 100 @ 0.005 = 0.5 BTC
Duffer1: 100,000 units of mintspare now up for sale on havelock
PLambert: Oh look, MS is now available on Havelock. Who is excited to lose their money?
PLambert: bah, you beat me by a second :(
Duffer1: ha man i tried to warn them in that thread, hopefully that 160 is all they sell
PLambert: what, people are actaully buying that shit?
Duffer1: havelock trying to fake volume
PLambert: maybe it is the operator trying to make themself look more presentable
PLambert: bah, you beat me by a second again :(
Duffer1: no i expect they'll sell out because... history like repeating itself
topace: there's no faking volume
PLambert: they are asking for way too much money and giving way too little in return, and their business model is easily copied
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.00048 = 0.24 BTC [+]
Duffer1: and the original could jsut start accepting bitcoins themselves and kill off all competition QUITE easily
PLambert: just need a couple bitcoins, send to stooge's account, buy shares, repeat
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4380 @ 0.00083926 = 3.676 BTC [+] {2}
topace: real shares being bought with real bitcoins != fake volume
PLambert: can you tell the difference between real and fake?
jborkl: wait, so they buy old cellphones for bitcoins
PLambert: jborkl, yeah and "fix them and resell"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 4000 @ 0.005 = 20 BTC
PLambert: see, there is some fake volume?
Duffer1: R.I.P. 20 btc, you will be missed
topace: PLambert: why do you think thats "fake" ?
jborkl: so, when the exchange rate rapes them - they are out of business
PLambert: who has 20 btc and is dumb enough to fall for this?
topace: real bitcoins used to buy real shares
topace: im watching the server right now
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 50 @ 0.005 = 0.25 BTC
topace: and i wrote the damn platform
topace: there's no way to "fake" trades
PLambert: I am not saying they are fake trades, just that they are insider trades
topace: "[13:16:11] <PLambert> see, there is some fake volume?"
jborkl: topace, do you know how they plan to resell? are they shipping them overseas to Africa or selling them for BTC again?
PLambert: topace, I am not saying that the trade is not hapenning, just guessing that it is an insider
Duffer1: i believe 'volume' is being used here to mean: "puppet accounts using btc to provide the illusion of demand"
topace: jborkl: im not involved with the actual listings anymore
PLambert: duffer1: right, puppet is a good word for what I meant
Duffer1: topace i'm not saying that is what's happening, i have no idea, that's just my overly cynical ravings talking
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 50 @ 0.005 = 0.25 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.49799993 = 2.988 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.0044332 = 0.2039 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04999999 = 0.25 BTC [+]
ozbot: Bitcoin payments are now live on Overstock.com : Bitcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG.F2] 1 @ 0.575 BTC [+]
Duffer1: wow that got that done a lot faster than i thought they would
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5496 @ 0.00083958 = 4.6143 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 22 @ 0.005 = 0.11 BTC
TomServo: Anyone ever used cashintocoins.com?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 60 @ 0.005 = 0.3 BTC
ozbot: Could a Civil War-Era Law Stamp Out Bitcoin? | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 228 @ 0.005 = 1.14 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00084197 = 10.4825 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: "This 152-year-old law forbids any American from issuing a check, note, or token that’s worth less than $1"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 240 @ 0.005 = 1.2 BTC
mircea_popescu: this 226 year old constitution forbids any law from forbiding stupid shit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [+]
ozbot: 1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 680 blocks | Estimated Change: 19.6216% in 3d 18h 45m 1s
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00084161 = 9.0473 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00084161 = 7.9111 BTC [-]
KRS1: I used cashintocoins.com a few times- very good service.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.04999999 = 1.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02559 = 0.128 BTC [+]
the20year: Anyone want to take a look at the revised rentalstarter business plan/disclosure?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00084252 = 13.9437 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 29 @ 0.005 = 0.145 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00084252 = 5.7291 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12495 @ 0.0008415 = 10.5145 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12745 @ 0.0008415 = 10.7249 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31505 @ 0.00084049 = 26.4796 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83780 @ 0.00083936 = 70.3216 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13237 @ 0.00084253 = 11.1526 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 30 @ 0.005 = 0.15 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 14 @ 0.02559 = 0.3583 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3136 @ 0.00009449 = 0.2963 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.00084118 = 22.2913 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00083876 = 1.8453 BTC [-]
mike_c: is mpex taking wire transfers now? blockchain isn't showing any deposits since november.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.04999999 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02619899 = 0.2882 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 60 @ 0.005 = 0.3 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.04999999 = 1.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22758 @ 0.00084267 = 19.1775 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: Another massive flawless patching. Noone shares the excitement. - DevOps Reactions
mircea_popescu: "now where did i park again ?! maybe it was in the pink ?"
benkay`: us management didn't turn over overnight, pankkake. still gotta deal with the derps.
benkay`: in the meantime, it's an acceptable shorthand for a whole buncha shit.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.02619899 = 0.524 BTC [+]
KRS1: nice send moar pr0ns and dtng
KRS1: lel definately in the pink
mike_c: speaking of virtual reality, i tried an oculus rift for the first time recently. mindblowing.
KRS1: Mmmm those are the eastern/European women i love so much.
KRS1: I think I need to move to somewhere in Europe.
KRS1: Probably Poland. Their womens look delicious.
mircea_popescu: kinda funny to see women that look like women declared "eastern european".
mircea_popescu: you know us chicks would look exactly the same if you made them walk everywhere and cook.
KRS1: that oculus looks badass
BingoBoingo: Right now I'd lean towards serbia over Poland for the weather.
KRS1: Womens who look like that are probably of Euro descent. Most people in the U.S. are of immigrant descent.
KRS1: Except for Aborigine women..ew.
Vexual: yeah but give an east berlin chick a club and she'll just start dancing
KRS1: ..and that chick with the red hair is considered hawt there.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00084239 = 9.2663 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00083997 = 12.0956 BTC [-]
KRS1: My last g/f was Polish-ish. She had greyblue eyes and very straight blondish-brown hair..if this is how Europen women mostly look I must go. There is no other type of woman for me.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35850 @ 0.00083895 = 30.0764 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9090 @ 0.00083692 = 7.6076 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: it's amazing what an ice age can do
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.001 = 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00084367 = 7.593 BTC [+]
KRS1: Brunettes...pubes..its like the black hole..can't go down there..not down with that.
KRS1: I just love the round-robin discussion topic nature of IRC.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2199 @ 0.00083798 = 1.8427 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 120 @ 0.00298649 = 0.3584 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00299699 = 0.1648 BTC [+]
benkay: what brings you to -assets, martjoh?
nubbins`: so i've decided to throw some money away
Vexual: solar powered mining nubs?
nubbins`: nah. just listed a rare casascius coin on ebay, starting bid $3.8k
martjoh: benkay, I was referred and i would love just to check it out
benkay: referred by whom, martjoh? what topics pique your interest?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 14 @ 0.02505687 = 0.3508 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 168 @ 0.002997 = 0.5035 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 65 @ 0.003 = 0.195 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: The Grand Experiment Goes Live: Overstock.com Is Now Accepting Bitcoins | Wired Business | Wired.com
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27851 @ 0.00083821 = 23.345 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64013 @ 0.00084401 = 54.0276 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 187 @ 0.0008454 = 0.1581 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3549 @ 0.0008434 = 2.9932 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Such a shame Roger Ver was so readily displaced as the used electronics BTC Jesus
nubbins`: thinking about putting linux on a touchscreen netbook for my mother. distro recommendations?
nubbins`: thinking ubuntu or mint, not sure about touch support in either
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26250 @ 0.00083651 = 21.9584 BTC [-]
PLambert: isn't android a linux version made for touch screens?
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Ubuntu isn't bad for such uses so long as someone isn't betting their life on the machine
benkay: just get her an apple, nubbins`. you'll be so much less burdened with tech support...
nubbins`: i'd love to, she doesn't want to spend the $$
nubbins`: her last netbook was $300 and lasted 4 years
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17987 @ 0.00083651 = 15.0463 BTC [-]
PLambert: I thought Ubuntu was releasing a mobile version soon, that would imply they are trying to support touchscreens?