pankkake: awesome! I mentionned it a few days earlier, and it's now there :)
kakobrekla: this is thanks to mp fucking around with my bets
ozbot: BitBet - ActiveMining will be profitable for most investors
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 72 @ 0.00552795 = 0.398 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: well, not really… unless you have a way to know it was provided by the house
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63975 = 1.2795 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: the amounts aren't really worth correcting, especially since you get some of it back if you win
pankkake: but it scared me to see "lost" the first time
kakobrekla: yeah there are like 3 AM bets in there
kakobrekla: 10-09-2013 ActiveMining will be profitable for most investors 0.55196672 Won 0.72314360
kakobrekla: 09-09-2013 ActiveMining will be profitable for most investors 0.03000000 Lost 0.00000000
kakobrekla: 09-09-2013 ActiveMining will be profitable for most investors 0.17050709 Won 0.22341672
pankkake: ActiveMinig is not AM! it's a scam!
VanCleef_: i bet you friedcat isn't even his real name
dexX7: are there many people that use addresses more than once on bb?
pankkake: I always use the same (unless maybe I am ashamed of my bet someday and chose another one)
pankkake: don't need to, just lure him with catnip
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5162 @ 0.0008303 = 4.286 BTC [+] {3}
pankkake: he'll give you his private key
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64998629 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.005528 = 0.1824 BTC [+]
dexX7: and i really thought the shiny video would come
VanCleef_: i dont think AM ever sent any hardware out
dexX7: lol yea, all shills
VanCleef_: the greatest scam the bitcoin world has ever seen
ozbot: PANACEA - Bitcoin denominated hedge fund
pankkake: some guy named Alberto in Management
pankkake: 50 BTC minimum, so not for poorfags :(
benkay: kakobrekla: listing on mpex?
kakobrekla: and we have been working on this for 1 year about.
dexX7: haha yea, i saw he was a larger mpex holder
dub: what has take a years worth of work?
dub: theres an automated trading jonx at play? or just you guys making calls
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.0055001 = 0.1045 BTC [-]
jurov: kako i envy you.. so far i failed to make any trader interested :/
kakobrekla: we do monitor it but not tamper with it, at least 99% of the time
jurov: yes, or anything bitcoin-related
kakobrekla: i am playing on the most liquid market of all assets and asset classes
jurov: oh, you had what volume before meeting these bit4x dudes?
kakobrekla: im talking hard to play with little vol that is on btc markets
dub: ya, its not bitcoin related
jurov: okay, but i mean bitcoin generally, not this assets echo chamber
kakobrekla: i still dont understand which volume you are asking about
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 327 @ 0.0055 = 1.7985 BTC [-] {3}
jurov: i dont understand why did you start talking about volume at all
kakobrekla: you wanted someone to do a btc denominated fund right?
dub: I think he wanted to get forex guys into btc
jurov: you were able to find some partner for bit4x, that's all i meant
benkay: get all the forex guys into btc.
dub: it was all a dream he used to read word up magazine
dub: saltnpeppa heavyd up in the scene
jurov: anyway, coinbr new fees are in effect since now. if anyone wants to withdraw, let me know, cuz i'm going to sleep in a while.
dub: now hes in the limelight cause he trades right
mike_c: so.. panacea is forex trading BTC/EUR?
mike_c: EUR/USD but it's btc denonimated?
mike_c: ok, so those return percentages are in btc
pankkake: what happens if btc/usd changes a lot?
mike_c: and, don't mean this rudely, this has nothing to do with btc because it's trading eur/usd ?
mike_c: except that buy-in cash-out are btc
mike_c: ok. so, i give you 100 btc. you use that as collateral to trade EUR/USD. hopefully you make profit. you give me back 102 btc.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.00563 = 0.4391 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: pankkake also the positions are so small and the leverage can go really high so no worries for a margin call
mike_c: and the evidence that I have as an investor that you are awesome at this is 3 months of profits..
kakobrekla: you shouldnt rely on that, past perf is no guarantee
mike_c: what should I base my investment decision on?
kakobrekla: but i do have 1k+ of my own riding on it
mike_c: since i don't know your CV
mike_c: i do trust, in that i don't worry about the safety of my btc
mike_c: but i feel like evidence is a tad slim around your skills at forex.
kakobrekla: i cant make you any guarantee of future profits
mike_c: fair enough. good luck with it though.
mike_c: it does look better than 96% of btc investments, so hopefully you get some bites.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00082864 = 5.2619 BTC [-] {3}
kakobrekla: i already have private investors since last dec
mike_c: didn't want to share numbers since then?
kakobrekla: so i dont 'need' any bits, but its there if anyone want to join the party
mike_c: what's the variance like? 20% high watermark.. is the high watermark usually close to end-of-month performance?
mike_c: oh, so not 20% of your highest point of the month. 20% of profit at end of month.
kakobrekla: profit is ~20% higher than what you see in the table 'performance after fees'
mike_c: ok, i believe you are saying something different below: "Performance fee:20% high watermark monthly"
kakobrekla: if i have a negative month, no fees are taken until it reaches new high from the top
mike_c: that is much better than how i read it.
kakobrekla: well thats what 20% high watermark monthly means
kakobrekla: maybe i should add an explanation below
mike_c: we do have some money left :)
Namworld: I have a long history of paying interest on loaned amounts. Good backings. I will need to replace current lenders.
kakobrekla: heh well i hope 50btc min will give me enough peace
mike_c: with profit paid as dividends?
kakobrekla: id much rather do closed ended but people.....
Namworld: Not sure anyone would be interested in that...
mike_c: well, to be fair, a dividend stream does reduce the trust factor a little
kakobrekla: the thing is, as an asset manager you are supposed to better at handling money than other people
kakobrekla: cause its already in the right place so to speak
mike_c: that only works if the asset manager is working a big enough opportunity. which forex obviously is.
Namworld: Well darn, not sure how I will be trading without any liquidities.
kakobrekla: yeah i could prolly handle 21 mio btc with that liquidity.
mike_c: it'll be nice having a non-mp company on there, just for variety sake.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.608 BTC [-]
mike_c: right. it's an etf that is 100% invested in.. your company. right?
kakobrekla: bit4x will prolly never list anywhere, but asset managment org might
mike_c: etf tracking the performance on panacea.
mike_c: yes, totally different than non-voting stock :)
kakobrekla: well not sure about the corp part, depends how strict one is id guess
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 850 @ 0.00023 = 0.1955 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.608 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.15845 = 0.3169 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 42 @ 0.06 = 2.52 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.000228 = 0.456 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 240 @ 0.00267 = 0.6408 BTC [-]
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 6609 BTC profit, 61.4k BTC invested, 218.63 mio bets, 4.31 mio BTC wagered
mike_c: i think dooglus has a good heart and no clue how to run a casino.
mike_c: the whole "1% max bet", then get beat up, then down to 0.25, looks like now its 0.5
dexX7: creepy.. the lady is always watching
mike_c: i don't think he understands what the swings will be like often - and i know his investors dont
kakobrekla: yeah he does have to handle bunch of penny investors
mike_c: even 0.5% of bankroll is too big for long-term success. the drawdowns will be big and the investors are not ready for it
kakobrekla: "mah 0.8 coin is nao only 0.75 doog fix it nao dis inaxeptablu"
mike_c: you'll get those mails after the etf comes out
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36999999 BTC [+]
Jere_Jones: I find that people on bitcointalk tend toward the "asshole" side of the scale. I don't know if that's because bitcoin brings out the asshole in people or assholes tend to have the loudest voices. However, your posts are always levelheaded and useful. I appreciate that.
arij: hey thestringpuller
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.00022855 = 0.9142 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: like I'm hosting a service on port 5984 and can't reach it remote
mike_c: holy shit i thought you were kidding. DaaS is real :D only $25 a month for 100gigs!
arij: you can do sudo netstat -pnutl
arij: to see which ports are open
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.0056879 = 0.2218 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: it says there are two people that own a significant amount of DMC shares
Diablo-D3: these people do not seem to actually exist
pankkake: well I got a share of a company on an account I never used
pankkake: bitfunder is broken by design or something
Diablo-D3: and they have another hour and a half to trade their shares in for AM before DMC closes its doors forever
dub: how many AMs does my share get?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.0055136 = 0.4411 BTC [-] {3}
Diablo-D3: not at all. friedcat doesnt offer fractional shares
dub: I paid a whole satoshi for that share
Diablo-D3: and you've probably made more than that back in divs
Diablo-D3: even if you got ONE div, it would have been more than 1 satoshi
Diablo-D3: lol you sold it before you got one div?
Diablo-D3: did you check your bitfunder account balance?
dub: I don;t have a buttfunder account
Diablo-D3: if you dont have a buttfunder account then you dont actually have any shares
Diablo-D3: I dont offer direct shares, all shareholder data at the GLBSE transition was uploaded to bitfunder
Diablo-D3: you were sent an email on how to create a bitfunder account
dub: yeah butt I'd need a weakexchange account or someshit to use buttfunder
Diablo-D3: I wish Ukto would just let people move money out of accounts without weex
dub: anyway I will forever remember you as teh guy that jipped me for a satoshi
dub: thats right I was gypped
Diablo-D3: and have all unclaimed dividends sent back to DMC
dub: just send them to me along with teh outstanding AMs and we're square
Diablo-D3: like I said, friedcat doesnt do fractional shares
gribble: You rated user Diablo-D3 on Wed Dec 19 17:18:02 2012, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: fulfilled mining contract and multiple glbse share txns.
dub: may need to review this
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 18 @ 0.063 = 1.134 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 200 @ 0.00068 = 0.136 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36909319 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00267 = 0.267 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.0056879 = 0.2446 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3690922 BTC [-]
dub: talk about riding their reputation
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0055004 = 0.275 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 934 @ 0.00050558 = 0.4722 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 79 @ 0.00568822 = 0.4494 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2734 @ 0.00082493 = 2.2554 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 250 @ 0.00109548 = 0.2739 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: dub: why, because you refuse to do what you're supposed to?
dub: lets sample the same guitar riff and use it in every track!
dub: it took like 8 years to make an album of the same song over and over
dub: and shitheels will lap it up like a bunch of apple users
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.063 = 0.252 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 52 @ 0.30290722 = 15.7512 BTC [-] {14}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.21133473 = 1.268 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 634 @ 0.00046106 = 0.2923 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2306 @ 0.00082543 = 1.9034 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00109548 = 0.1095 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 0.05001 = 1.0002 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 15 @ 0.05 = 0.75 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5345 @ 0.00082412 = 4.4049 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 599 @ 0.00082412 = 0.4936 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 223 @ 0.00109548 = 0.2443 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.637 = 1.274 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.36907559 = 0.7382 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 127 @ 0.00267 = 0.3391 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.0056889 = 0.1365 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.155 = 0.62 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00109548 = 0.1095 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 155 @ 0.00109548 = 0.1698 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 461 @ 0.00022855 = 0.1054 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00022879 = 2.2879 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0008256 = 4.128 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00082409 = 1.0713 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.155 = 0.31 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000229 = 0.229 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 278 @ 0.00268751 = 0.7471 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.61716666 = 3.703 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.61 = 10.37 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63975 = 1.2795 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 147 @ 0.00109548 = 0.161 BTC [+]
ozbot: [OFFICIAL] mcxNOW Final Investment Round. 6700BTC already invested
bidji: mcxNOW IPO is now open to the public
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.0056889 = 0.1252 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.00568897 = 0.4153 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0056889 = 0.1138 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00082482 = 2.6394 BTC [+] {2}
zacm: mcxnow free feeshares/
KRS1: last i heard that exchange was scamming people
kleeck: KRS1, I get the feeling that you heard that in this channel, with no proof to back the claim. Just a hunch. ;)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 191 @ 0.00109548 = 0.2092 BTC [+]
KRS1: kleeck: its been said for quite a while now
kleeck: And has anyone given examples and proof?
zacm: activemining should hire that exchange's programmers to handle the trading of shares
KRS1: read what I said: "last I heard"
kleeck: The only thing I've heard is, "It's a ponzi"
kleeck: But when I looked into it, it wasn't.
KRS1: i didnt look into it
KRS1: I have witnessed several altcoin pumps go through that exchange
zacm: btc-e doesn't have any pumps
zacm: i hear everyone in the trollbox has a phd too
zacm: actm would be decent if it wasn't involved with bitfondler
skinnkavaj: Doubled by litecoin holdings yesterday pankkake
skinnkavaj: You know the Litecoin securities exchange
ozbot: 390928787.63809 | Next Diff in 849 blocks | Estimated Change: 27.1316% in 4d 6h 52m 50s
pankkake: activemining has more problems than that, right from the start
zacm: litecoininvest is new btct.co ?
skinnkavaj: LTC/USD going up in value from 1st of Nov as predicted.
zacm: litey is an amazing altcoin
zacm: i won't touch the worldcoin but i like litey
skinnkavaj: Who would touch any other altcoin other than BTC/LTC
zacm: even though it sucks with it's unlimitedness
pankkake: the real issue is that it is very cheap to 51% attack
pankkake: meh. if you look at what happened to ppcoin, it's now below bitcoin's inflation, or close
pankkake: it's the same reward system: the reward goes down when difficulty goes up
pankkake: well, now that I think of it, we're not going to see primecoin asics
pankkake: so the inflation is going to be high for a long time
pankkake: actually, I think its price is high because noobs aren't able to mine it
zacm: xpm would be way better with a cap
zacm: doesn't the world bank need spying
kleeck: Should Obama be the one leading that charge?
zacm: it will be his greatest legacy yet!
jurov: kleeck you were *born* into a comedy
kleeck: I think I'm in the wrong country.
jurov: there's no right country
kleeck: But the grass is always greener, right?
pankkake: I don't think there is a right one. maybe somalia
kleeck: I think there are better.
kleeck: For my mentality/political persuasion.
pankkake: indeed, switzerland is great. moreover, many things are local there (like taxes)
pankkake: > Bear minimum funding requirements
pankkake: I am imagining an angry bear you have to calm with bitcoins
KRS1: SOMALIA IS LOVERS!@$%@^#$%&
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
pankkake: "I LOST EVERY PENCE ON YOUR PROJECT!"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00082409 = 3.1315 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 380 @ 0.000265 = 0.1007 BTC [-]
pankkake: they sell silver but not gold, that currency is useless!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 450 @ 0.00023133 = 0.1041 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 2200 @ 0.00017591 = 0.387 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 101 @ 0.00568887 = 0.5746 BTC [+] {3}
Namworld: Wasn't burnside going to close btct.co completly on the 1st ._.
pankkake: though he said after that he planned to give back as much balances as possible, might be the reason it's still up
Namworld: Well he should have addresses. For most people anyway
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3594 @ 0.00082576 = 2.9678 BTC [+]
zacm: is bitfondler better? the fact that a letter was sent by sec and kept secret from people implies no
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
pankkake: I wouldn't trust bitfunder with anything, regardless of the SEC
Namworld: Well I'm looking to borrow BTC in slices of 25 BTC. Anyone interested? I have a longstanding history as a borrower.
truffles: "longstanding history as a borrower"
truffles: in finance thats all that matters nm
truffles: pizza or chinese food tough call
zacm: Namworld: yeah Ken from ActiveMining mentioned a letter to bitfunder from SEC a few days ago. probably just the tip of the iceberg lol. wonder what all the ids being requested will be used for later.
Namworld: Oh... but from what I read, it seems SEC was requesting info specifically about Ken
Namworld: Although they might be asking about other issuers too
nubbins`: flatbread crust, bbq sauce, chicken, red onion, bacon, fresh mushrooms, cheddar
topace: "mushrooms gross" from the guys who's name is "truffles"
nubbins`: time to start eating your mushrooms!
nubbins`: topace, who knows, maybe he owns pigs
truffles: some1 gifted me some delicious truffles from the uk
Namworld: A truffle is a mushroom considered a delicacy. Nothing to do with a chocolate truffle tho. Although some chocolate truffles contain truffle liquor.
topace: funny you dont even know what your own name means
nubbins`: truffles look rotten, i'd be curious to try one
truffles: topace truffles could mean many things though
ThickAsThieves: i havent had a truffle but ive had truffle oil and truffle salt
truffles: white anything is usually subpar
nubbins`: yeah, i watched a cooking show once where they had to make a dish with truffles
nubbins`: all these top chefs were losing their minds that they were being given the honor of cooking like 2 whole truffles
nubbins`: white power is higher in genetic defects
nubbins`: that may be a friedcat tattoo on his temple
truffles: 68? looks like a paint job gone bad
Namworld: [10:06] <truffles> white anything is usually subpar
truffles: i just dont like white chocolate
Namworld: I thought you were answering to TaT which mentioned the other kind of truffles
nubbins`: white light is pretty swell, too
nubbins`: yes, all 3 primary colors in equal amounts
truffles: there is so much to read on this
truffles: so im gonna defer to those in the know
nubbins`: YES! purolator just showed up with a ton of paper for me
nubbins`: tat, you got me on a technicality
nubbins`: worth noting that every color in a rainbow is some combination of the 3 primaries ;)
truffles: "White is the blending of all colors"
nubbins`: every color that humans can see
nubbins`: green being a mix of two primaries, yellow and blue
ThickAsThieves: but you cant make every color with only 3 colors, it now depends on how you define "color"
truffles: nubbins` get ur facts right so i can memorize it properly!
nubbins`: and if you don't limit it, you've got the full EM spectrum
nubbins`: but i don't think anyone is going to call gamma rays a color
nubbins`: so, as humans, we put sensible limits on things
truffles: so if we can run with this theory here
nubbins`: anyway, you're correct in that there are plenty of colors that can't be replicated with the 3 primaries
truffles: black was the original then came the white and other combinations
ThickAsThieves: yeah this is a tricky concept for people when comparing colors on their monitor to prints
ThickAsThieves: if a color is illuminated, it is not gonna print emitting light
nubbins`: well, just look how confused people get over additive vs. subtractive colors
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 460 @ 0.00109548 = 0.5039 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: sorry i used to work on industrial large format printers
nubbins`: i ordered my first pantone mixing kit yesterday, i feel so grown up now
ThickAsThieves: it was fun other than the company was run by total morons
truffles: sounds similar to accounting but with printing
nubbins`: shame the swatch books are so goddamn expensive
nubbins`: i've been toying with the idea of printing obscene designs on black t-shirts with black ink
ThickAsThieves: i have an old Kid Dynamite shirt that's black on black
truffles: so none will know its there nubbins`?
nubbins`: would be great with ink that has a bit of shine
nubbins`: water-based would be too dull to show up
nubbins`: truffles: you'd see it if it catches the light
nubbins`: although to be fair i've printed obscene things with white ink on black shirts
nubbins`: so i guess really it's more the black-on-black than the obscenity that's got me interested
nubbins`: improperly cured, but you get the idea
nubbins`: occasionally i find myself out in public with that shirt on. embarassment ensues
pankkake: and here I thought tshirthell was offensive
ThickAsThieves: i cant find my Kid Dynamite shirt on the internet anywhere
nubbins`: t-shirt hell is just "shocking", great for edgy 17 year olds
jcpham: so i have one of these bitcoin neon signs in my office
jcpham: it's rather large i haven't unboxed it yet
skinnkavaj: People are hungry for new Litecoininvest
nubbins`: if any of you guys are into music, the guy in the plaid shirt is Thurston Moore from sonic youth
ThickAsThieves: i suppose i probly havent seen a pic of him since 1997 or whatever
nubbins`: his new band, chelsea light moving, is pretty good
nubbins`: not on the same level as dick surgery, but ya know
nubbins`: guy on the left is my buddy ted
truffles: that guy looked like he wasup to no good
nubbins`: i recommend "hats off ta skipper" from the latest post
nubbins`: wordpress player is a bit fidgety though, i had to reload a couple times before it worked
nubbins`: we have brief moments of lucidity
truffles: i dunno, modern day bands suck
truffles: pop at least some have decent vocals
truffles: bands hand behind the instruments
truffles: yea i didnt have a future in that bs
pankkake: decent vocals? is there any pop not autotuned now?
nubbins`: that would look sawk black-on-black
nubbins`: heh, i'm just watching old videos of local bands playing bar shows
nubbins`: came across one in which i spotted myself, holding a video camera, falling around loaded drunk
ThickAsThieves: man, interpunk still had merch from my old account when i had a label in the 90s
nubbins`: i bought an ataris t-shirt from them back in high school
nubbins`: that was like 15 fuckin years ago! good for them
nubbins`: a-ha! i found the video that i took while falling around loaded
ozbot: Local Tough All Stars Mixup - YouTube
nubbins`: pretty much impossible to watch once i start moving around
jurov: ;;gpg eauth freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2a3c8e32b7ffdcca25593fd281c7f87d6e0b89253d35417911c668c4
gribble: Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
jurov: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2a3c8e32b7ffdcca25593fd281c7f87d6e0b89253d35417911c668c4
gribble: Error: No outstanding encryption-based request found.
jurov: ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2a3c8e32b7ffdcca25593fd281c7f87d6e0b89253d35417911c668c4
gribble: Error: No outstanding encryption-based request found.
truffles: wonder what these ppl were thinking with that band name..
ozbot: Wikipedia article traffic statistics
truffles: "hats off ta skipper" did not want to load, insert bad dick joke
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.0055102 = 0.1047 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 73 @ 0.00267 = 0.1949 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 111 @ 0.00109548 = 0.1216 BTC [+]
nubbins`: reload the page, player is dodgy
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 213.74501, Best ask: 214.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25499, Last trade: 214.00000, 24 hour volume: 5861.25962100, 24 hour low: 209.60000, 24 hour high: 215.00000, 24 hour vwap: 212.93918
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 99 @ 0.055 = 5.445 BTC [+]
kleeck: pankkake, you love MCXNow, right?
kleeck: Are you investing in it?
pankkake: the whole thing; like gettings fees from deposits
pankkake: I already regret buying one share
dexX7: "a scammer is someone who promotes a scam2
pankkake: if I promote mcxnow I'd be a scammer yeah :p
truffles: lots of scammers out there with that definition
pankkake: well actually mcxnow isn't a scam, it's an exchaneg of scams :)
dexX7: i don't think it's a scam... the idea is somewhat great and i'm more envy of this guy for being that successful
Apocalyptic: at least they don't add every scam coin out there
truffles: trying again nubbins` cuz im that impatient
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6425 = 1.285 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 927 @ 0.002695 = 2.4983 BTC [+]
pankkake: it's not a scam, but I don't think all the shares are going to be sold
dexX7: but the return isn't all that great also, right? like only 10 % per year or so?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 585 @ 0.00269948 = 1.5792 BTC [+] {2}
dexX7: woah half of them are sold
pankkake: it depends on wether you believe they will do more stuff, or that altcoins will keep gathering interets
truffles: nubbins` is it small is that why u guys were like, u know we should name our band something we can fix, i got it dicksurgery!
dexX7: i think the reason that the trading is freezed is that the owner believes the new holders would crash the price, so if you want some, wait till this happens maybe
nubbins`: truffles, i invite you to revisit the logo
nubbins`: we only perform penis reduction surgery
truffles: giving this another minute geeeeeeeeeeeeez
pankkake: yeah. I should have waited, but I thought it would resume back to trading after the limited time thing
truffles: wont load it again unless u fix this bs
nubbins`: player is messed up. if it doesn't play immediately, waiting won't help
truffles: its cutting off the most important part though
kleeck: Just noticed that mcxFEE is traded @ .53 currently, but a share IPOs @ .4?
kleeck: This raises lots of questions.
kleeck: Why was it being traded before the IPO - the "I" means INITIAL.
ozbot: The Melvins - "The Kicking Machine" - Surveillance - YouTube
nubbins`: dude sat up in bed playing bass
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 212.41091, Best ask: 213.99996, Bid-ask spread: 1.58905, Last trade: 213.99996, 24 hour volume: 5878.88462327, 24 hour low: 209.76000, 24 hour high: 215.00000, 24 hour vwap: 212.96858
dexX7: not all that much volume
dexX7: half of btct's top days :)
truffles: i think that singer need a haircut, too much sideshow bob going on
nubbins`: he was sideshow bob before sideshow bob was sideshow bob
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00083067 = 2.9904 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00569383 = 0.5979 BTC [+] {6}
nubbins`: i have to admit, i'm surprised that btc has been hovering around 200 for this long
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00569937 = 0.5984 BTC [+] {4}
ozbot: This will all end in tears. : Bitcoin
truffles: at least that guy knows how to write something engaging
nubbins`: made it halfway before losing interest
dexX7: tl;tr: chinese gov bought the coins, because the us now owns many
nubbins`: "Mr. Nobel was horrified to see how dynamite was used, you will be horrified to see how Bitcoin will be used."
pankkake: dynamite was meant for *mining*, right?
nubbins`: it was meant for blowing shit up, regardless of purpose
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [-]
truffles: i do enjoy reading a good tin foil story
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1350 @ 0.000265 = 0.3578 BTC [-]
truffles: when i can step into a store and buy shit with bitcoin, im gonna have my oh shit moment
nubbins`: as in "oh shit, why is this still less convenient than cash"?
pankkake: I hate cash, I have to count stuff
truffles: remember those days when ppl had to carry around heavy coins
pankkake: or end up with many little worthless coins
nubbins`: remember those days? i'm still living them
pankkake: I like the feeling of 2EUR coins though
truffles: weasel do u agree with accountt1234?
nubbins`: pankkake: gonna print your fc shirt soon, i just need to digest this enormous lunch
pankkake: no hurry. I'm surprised of so few orders
pankkake: well, maybe shares prices explain it :D
ozbot: This will all end in tears. : Bitcoin
truffles: " How will the people of the world feel about people becoming billionaires through sheer luck? "
pankkake: I discovered bitcoin in 2009 and never bought anything. it's not luck.
nubbins`: pankkake: there were a lot more t-shirt sales when the share price was > 4
nubbins`: i think the fact that most people still holding AM shares have lost their shirts kind of tempered demand a bit
truffles: pankkake so howd u get those coins!!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [-]
truffles: good job cleaning up that namworld
Namworld: I've had hundreds of BTC loaned to me at less than 1% per month for almost a year.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1106 @ 0.00082658 = 0.9142 BTC [-] {2}
Namworld: It lived through GLBSE and BTCT.co, now with BTCT.co, people are redeeming en masse once again. Going to suck up all my liquidities.
jurov: announcement imminent
truffles: "<Apocalyptic> Namworld, just launch a bond" ??
Apocalyptic: i advise him to launch a bond if he needs a loan, don't know what he will call it
truffles: for some reason i did not read the word "just" and that sentence changes
pankkake: "Automated database integrity checks"
dexX7: jurov: probably newb question, but are the btcusd options on coinbr, too?
pankkake: still, less ridiculous list than inputsi.o
jurov: dexX7: Yes, can be bough/sold/exercised online. Only MKOPT/SPLIT is not implemented, but can be done on request.
Apocalyptic: pankkake, what exactly do you find ridiculous ? marketing needs to be done
Namworld: I already have a bond called BTC-BOND
pankkake: indeed this is purely marketing
pankkake: anyway, rel x-bt.com: logo has incorrect apostrophe sign, and isn't at the right size, making it look ugly
Apocalyptic: damn, i only heard compliments about the logo so far
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 900 @ 0.00109548 = 0.9859 BTC [+]
pankkake: it should be a ' or better, a ’ :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00082834 = 2.3194 BTC [+] {2}
truffles: doesnt help at all, ill just do MOar
nubbins`: oh god i just realized i made coffee
nubbins`: coffee is the drink tea wants to be
nubbins`: sounds like you've only had crappy cofee
truffles: ive had coffee in some random alcoholic drink once
nubbins`: as long as you don't adulterate it
nubbins`: none of this cream-sugar bullshit
pankkake: well real men like their coffee black
nubbins`: i use 2x the standard amount of beans
nubbins`: you could stand a spoon up in my coffee
nubbins`: well, if you don't like coffee, of course it doesn't
truffles: lets pitch that to other coffee drinkers shall we
nubbins`: i was roasting my own for a while. good time in my life
nubbins`: ethiopia yirgacheffe is my favourite
nubbins`: tastes like blueberries exploding in your mouth
Namworld: I don't drink coffee. What does that makes me?
truffles: waking up to the smell is the worst
pankkake: I need a better coffee machine. the ones I had at some workplaces were great
nubbins`: the aeropress makes great coffee
Namworld: I like the taste of coffee. Coffee cake. Biscuits. Etc.
nubbins`: it's what got me into drinking black
Namworld: I love everything with apples, except apples
nubbins`: french presses are good too, although if you don't like THICK coffee they're probably not your best choice
pankkake: haha, yeah I usually prefer stuff made of apples too
nubbins`: i'm allergic to apples, they make my throat burn
nubbins`: waking up to the smell of apples is the worst
pankkake: all apples? they can be quite different
truffles: i get it, i have a thing against the red ones
Namworld: Eating crude apples makes gives me shivers that burrows deep down to my soul and make me cringe.
nubbins`: same with peaches, pears, cherries
truffles: maybe the next generation will fare better, tough luck this round nubbins`
Namworld: It's like chalkboard to some people. The crunch of crude apple is excrutiating.
nubbins`: it's funny though, if they're peeled it's not nearly as bad
nubbins`: and if they're cooked/canned, no problems at all
truffles: fresh fruit is like the best thing on earth
Namworld: I lvoe fresh fruits. Except apples
nubbins`: every now and then i buy a full pineapple and i don't stop eating until my mouth begins to bleed
Namworld: Love the taste of apples, but they need to be cooked first to remove the crshshshsh it makes when you bite in them.
Namworld: I can stand nails on chalkboard or biting in styrofoam. But not the crshshshsh of crude apples.
nubbins`: now, that does raise the question as to why pineapple makes my mouth bleed
truffles: Namworld u have such a specific issue lol
pankkake: if you peel the apples they're much easier to eat
truffles: the skin is good to eat though
pankkake: if it's organic. otherwise BLEH
jurov: so, digg is apparently still alive and sending me emails from the grave. their today's headline is
ozbot: How to Spot the Reptilians Running the U.S. Government - Philip Bump - The Atlantic Wire
Namworld: I don't even have to eat one, just someone biting in one beside me makes me shiver.
truffles: nubbins` when u eat the pinapples make sure it doesnt touch the sides of ur mouth
truffles: acid is a bit much for that region
jurov: *truffles swallows.
nubbins`: i don't think i can eat food without it touching the sides of my mouth
Namworld: Not really, plenty of good stuff with apples in them. Like pie.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.64489993 = 5.1592 BTC [+] {2}
truffles: thinking of making some apple pie
nubbins`: apparently pineapples contain a lot of bromelain
nubbins`: so essentially when i eat a full pineapple, it's like smashing my mouth with a mallet
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 257 @ 0.00109548 = 0.2815 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: seriously, i'll take a bite out of a big piece, pull the rest away from my mouth, and it's RED
truffles: needs more care while eating or mouth problems occur ldo
Namworld: That's cause there's some harder filaments of fibers in them and lots of acid. It's making your gums bleed.
Namworld: (#bitcoin-assets was already renamed to #The-Color-Channel)
truffles: i do what i can to provide light chattery, btc stuff is prob stressful ya know
bob____: i have been holding my breath for a fricking hour
jurov: bob____: just go to addy Namworld provided
ozbot: [CoinBr]BTCT export
bob____: weak, you linked to that *before* you said you had an announcement
jurov: if you have coinbr account, you can spam linked btctalk thread with referrals :D
bob____: i thought there was another one
jurov: i'm out of announcements for foreseeable future, sorry to excite you
truffles: prob needs some dicksurgery in his life now
jurov: hmmm... but prolly i can erase the "beta" out of the logo and make proper preannouncement and announcement
truffles: yea if u hype it up like that ure sure to let ppl down
bob____: bah, save it for when you improve your logo and make it amazing.
jurov: the mermaid is amazing enough... or you want bigger boobs?
bob____: i want white lines instead of black so i can see her
bob____: ok, so that was the pre-announcement
bob____: now we're getting somewhere
truffles: its amazing i dont see any boobs on that
truffles: im gonna have to avoid the word now
nubbins`: because it happened six times in two minutes
truffles: whats a good lenght of time then
nubbins`: does anyone who doesn't have shit taste in music want to recommend a full album for me to listen to while printing?
ozbot: IvoryTrance - YouTube
truffles: i find the amazing thing hilarious
nubbins`: washed up, trite shitheads who haven't had a good album in like 20 years
nubbins`: nah, i need something more upbeat
nubbins`: also preferably something they wouldn't play at a dance club
ozbot: Metallica - Whiplash - YouTube
nubbins`: i'm not sure i should have asked you guys for your input
truffles: i just rly like that song discovered it this yr
nubbins`: washed up, trite shitheads who probably never had a good album
ozbot: Elray Resources[-OTCBB ELRA-]*Elray Gaming Inc.*
ozbot: Asura - Code Eternity [FULL ALBUM] - YouTube
Namworld: I see MPOE-PR already left her mark on the thread
pankkake: the guy can't make a post with any beggining of sense
nubbins`: all this electro stuff you're posting sounds overly masturbatory to me
pankkake: yeah. I hope jurov will like it though :)
nubbins`: it's just electro run through a VCF
nubbins`: and some asshole twists 2 knobs
ozbot: La Roux - In For The Kill (Skream Remix HQ) - YouTube
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: okay, can someone recommend a full album that would be appreciated by someone who isn't fucked on drugs at a rave?
truffles: i like this in for the kill song good choice pankkake
pankkake: aw, you just excluded all my musical taste at once
ozbot: The Birthday Party - King Ink Live LIVE - YouTube
nubbins`: that whole album is amazing btw
truffles: so lemme guess u only like rock?
nubbins`: no, i like most types of music
nubbins`: but i like listening to shit out of the ordinary
truffles: there seems to be some kind of noise in the background of this song
nubbins`: australia in the early 80s, there's lots of noise in the background. shit equipment :P
truffles: i find better dubstep than that..
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00579896 = 1.7397 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62233333 = 1.867 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Cynic - Traced in Air (Full Album) - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1174 @ 0.00109548 = 1.2861 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.0058895 = 1.7669 BTC [+] {3}
ozbot: Beirut - "Nantes" - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.621 = 1.863 BTC [-]
ozbot: Beirut Cheap Magic Inside. Complete 69 minutes - YouTube
plambert: can anybody here answer questions about CoinBR?
deadweasel: plambert, what's the Q? The answerman is here somewhere.
plambert: I sent some bitcoin to my account, and I see it moved from the address I sent it to, but it still says the account balance is 0?
jurov: O.o it missed a deposit? ill check
deadweasel: plambert, deposits, I believe are done by hand, for security reasons... give it an hour, he usually gets to it quickly.
pankkake: I haven't shaved in a month or so
deadweasel: i'd be surprised if you'd left your house in a month or so pankkake
jurov: plambert: fixed, sorry for that
nubbins`: longest i went w/o shaving was 9 months
pankkake: but those last months even less so
plambert: cool, glad that was easy to fix :)
truffles: men just need to be tough anyways, health pfff
plambert: a feature of CoinBR or a feature of bitcoin?
pankkake: I don't have your beard level yet
jurov: plambert: something happened to wallet monitoring
nubbins`: pankkake: it's all shaved off now
nubbins`: didn't want to look like a miscreant
truffles: what woman wants that in her ...
nubbins`: truffles: i was married about 4 hours after that picture was taken
nubbins`: all fluffed up for my big day ;p
truffles: why is ur hair different color
nubbins`: same reason my nut hair is a different color
deadweasel: haha, he's a mongrel dog, like all great people.
truffles: mongrel dog sounds very pleasant
deadweasel: i have some reds in my stache, some gray, most dark brn. head near black.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00082712 = 0.8271 BTC [-]
nubbins`: deadweasel: looks like i'm not the only camper here
plambert: jurov: does CoinBR send out an email when an order gets filled?
jurov: argh, i should file a bug...when python logging can't write to tty, it waits and stops everything :(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00594429 = 2.9721 BTC [+] {6}
pankkake: it's like a cat picture but with a man instead
nubbins`: new screens for business = new box for me
deadweasel: the box is always better than the contents, every cat-person knows that.
truffles: i have a photo with a cat in box just like that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.6150001 = 3.075 BTC [-]
nubbins`: same kitchen, 3 feet to the left
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 54 @ 0.00604444 = 0.3264 BTC [+] {2}
deadweasel: Newfoundland Labrador Liquor Foundation? SOunds like a group I would get along with...
jimmybob: IM GOING MAKE A MILLION QUID ON ACTM
nubbins`: i'm supposed to be printing shirts
nubbins`: thanks, nobody, for suggesting music
truffles: after extensively staring ive concluded this is a cute kitty
deadweasel: Maybe some takenobu if you can handle cello music
deadweasel: Gil-Scott Heron for some good fucking music
deadweasel: Reggie Watts and Rhazel for some good artistic and funny shit
bob____: jurov: try logging to a file instead of a terminal. then you can always look at the file later if you want to read it.
bob____: at least i make myself laugh.
bob____: yes but i am assuming you are drunk.
truffles: weasel this was false advertising with mr heron
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000265 = 0.265 BTC [+]
bob____: hehe, they figured out the problem with healthcare.gov
bob____: 'President Obama embraced a cloud first policy, and going forward I hope this may be among the last few major IT projects not built entirely on the cloud from day one,' said former White House CTO Aneesh Chopra
jimmybob: JUST BECAUSE I HAVE MORE QUIDS THAN YALL
deadweasel: truffles, if you can get down with Gil-Scott, you're just not trying..
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00580007 = 0.2204 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 125 @ 0.04555998 = 5.695 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00580007 = 0.2668 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2200 @ 0.00109001 = 2.398 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00046 / 0.00068456 / 0.00071 (21805 shares, 14.93 BTC), 30D: 0.00046 / 0.00064054 / 0.00071 (30105 shares, 19.28 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2000 @ 0.00108225 = 2.1645 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1566 @ 0.00561131 = 8.7873 BTC [-] {18}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 140 @ 0.0056 = 0.784 BTC [-] {2}
bob____: kako, if there are 10mm shares of s.bbet, how come the dividend pays out as if there were only 3mm shares?
bob____: but "per satoshi" dividends on mpex imply 3mm shares
Namworld: The dividend on MPEx should also be 3/10th of what dividend should actually be
Namworld: Per share amount should be accurate to profit / 10 million
bob____: hard to tell since mp still needs practice at paying out dividends
bob____: so at 0.0005 s.bbet has a p/e of around 100. not bat-shit crazy given growth potential.
jurov: kakobrekla: will there be top winners,top losers stats? =P
kakobrekla: its ticky to do those in the right way.
kakobrekla: not the code but the way you present it
kakobrekla: that shit has major psychological effects.
bob____: top losers is a bad idea for a gambling site..
bob____: might get them to stop playing
kakobrekla: i know some good solutions to this just cant be applied to bbet
kakobrekla: hey nanotube, can you make the ID clickable in the rating list so one can link to a particular rating 'tx'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36489989 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3648999 = 1.0947 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 79 @ 0.0056 = 0.4424 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 112 @ 0.00556563 = 0.6234 BTC [-] {2}
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 212.40008, Best ask: 213.79936, Bid-ask spread: 1.39928, Last trade: 212.40002, 24 hour volume: 5661.20444295, 24 hour low: 209.76000, 24 hour high: 215.00000, 24 hour vwap: 212.92397
deadweasel: jesus, did he leave in the middle of a large escrow?
dexX7: i heard this some days/weeks ago, too
dexX7: he holds several thousand coins imho
dexX7: for example some bitcointalk treasury coins
deadweasel: If Graet ever disappears, I'll shit myself.
kakobrekla: in the OTC it says he holds forums coins
mircea_popescu: so this is why people were bitching to basically be alloweds to use bitbet as an escrow for months
mircea_popescu: still, oct 23rd. he could have got run over by a bus / had a heart attack / etc.
kakobrekla: 21736 theymos 92 johnthedong 2013-03-21 03:35:46 9 Long-time forum moderator. Holds BTC for the forum.
nubbins`: maybe a spooky halloween ghost found him
jurov: is he a trolltalk treasurer as well? maybe i can win the bet at last :P
Namworld: What's that thing about John K. being gone?
ozbot: Bitcoin TOP-500 Richest
kakobrekla: >No. What's listed are assets publicly and provenly owned. Everyone else's supposed BTC stashes are nothing more than empty claims.
kakobrekla: is this the time when we start signing messages to measure dicklenght
mircea_popescu: well honestly i am sort-of hoping rpietilla goes berserk again and starts sending people btc
mircea_popescu: anyway it'll be funny when it gets to ver's 300k btc. i never met someone with millions in their pocket go nuts over a 5 btc mispayment or whatever that was last summer.
jurov: ;;later tell BingoBoingo "thx for free pentests, but nothing to be seen here"
jurov: better safe than sorry... i quote everything that has spaces
jurov: and mircea quotes even numbers]
nubbins`: no need to worry about casting
jurov: cuz to avoid some braindamaged implementations which use floating point for all numbers
nubbins`: mp may be the only man who has (a) never had a job and (b) never worn a t-shirt
nubbins`: usually the two are mutually exclusive
mircea_popescu: nubbins` actually i'll do you better : it's not that i've never worn a shirt, it's that i've always worn a suit.
mircea_popescu: people have pix of me @seaside hanging out with da nudist bitchez in a suit
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
gribble: Nick 'Scrat', with hostmask 'Scrat!~Scrat@unaffiliated/scrat', is not identified.
gribble: You are identified as user scrat, with GPG key id 85FC850EDF0A28FB, key fingerprint 457405953F36448B7AC91A5C85FC850EDF0A28FB, and bitcoin address 1Ch2shUcZDXrU3YskYDqY7CQCpsaeZU9Wa
mircea_popescu: nubbins` unbelievable as this may sound, i was a much cuter kid.
nubbins`: i'm fairly sure that baby has his eyebrows penciled in
mircea_popescu: for most of my infancy i was a curly blond haired kid with blue eyes
ozbot: BitBet - NYC will ban cigarette sales to those under the age of 21 by end of October
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.614 = 1.228 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: i guess next you'll need to be 21 to vote
mircea_popescu: somebody's making some bitcents at the expense of ten million newyorkers
ozbot: BitBet - Havelock will announce US restrictions by Guy Fawkes Night
nubbins`: honestly thought this one would end up going the other way. this is why i don't gamble much
nubbins`: funny thing about ways, i guess
mircea_popescu: douchengjie@d181.k12.id.us 4:33 pm It is our new report (Super sub-penny)!!!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 546 @ 0.001082 = 0.5908 BTC [-]
ozbot: [BTC-TC] S.MPOE / S.BBET Pass-throughs
nanotube: kakobrekla: sure theoretically yes... but what's the use case?
mike_c: I'm going to try something.. maybe stupid but we'll see.
mike_c: Let's try and auction off some options
mike_c: every 5 minutes I'm going to drop the price 0.02 until somebody buys them.
mike_c: unless a smart investor picks them up
mike_c: i heard a rumor there were smart investors in this channel
mike_c: we'll see. price dropped. one bidder already at 0.1215!
mike_c: for inspiration, last month people who bought my options made 28%. that's damn near 1% a day. price dropped.
mike_c: if that's accurate, the directors are on the board of a ton of companies.
mike_c: which means it's a shell corp, no?
kakobrekla: nanotube i just want to have the mans to point to a specific user to user action, could also be done in a way that log.bitcoin-assets works (with the hash tag in the url to jump & highlight a specific line)
mike_c: price is dropping every 5 minutes
mike_c: man.. i'm gunna get reamed on this. down to 0.2
Namworld: The buyers at 0.12 are going to get reamed
Namworld: I feel the current price is maybe too high. It's nice that value is rising but I'm unsure why it needs to raise so quickly.
mike_c: it's about volatility, not where the price is
mike_c: 0.12 does not represent much volatitlity at all. even 0.2 is a great buy
Namworld: If we doubled in price every 2 months like that, in 1 year we'd be at 12,800 USD per BTC
mike_c: the rate of change of the underlying is not even a factor in option pricing.
mike_c: it's implied volatility.
mike_c: also, different conversation, 10k usd / btc does not seem impossible to me :)
mircea_popescu: mike_c by the end of this month you can count on it as impossible.
mike_c: although your collateral requirements for options seem to account for it..
mike_c: 1 btc per option seems stiff
ozbot: [Havelock] The Panama Fund, S.A. Acquires HavelockInvestments.com
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.0008302 = 2.7397 BTC [+]
mike_c: ok.. if anybody is lurking and waiting to snipe these, you are running out of time. down to 0.16
Vp7771: sounds like some cool shit going on in Panama
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C200T] 40 @ 0.14 = 5.6 BTC [+]
mike_c: yes.. lower than i was hoping for.
mike_c: but the market has spoken.
mike_c: well, that was fun. good times everyone.
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
skinnkavaj: mircea_popescu have the ugliest security exchange in the world and most disturbing PR person on the planet
jurov: don't forget ugliest broker interface!
mike_c: and it hasn't sold to the panamanians.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.0609 = 0.1827 BTC [-]
jurov: she's there to distract :D
skinnkavaj: Didn't MPOE get hacked recently and burnside humilated MPOE-PR in forums?
mircea_popescu: in the sense you were right about investments recently, sure.
skinnkavaj: That was the funniest post on bitcointalk ever
skinnkavaj: mircea_popescu: Is MPOE-PR your girl friend or someone you hired?
Vp7771: Mirceau what are those docs?
nubbins`: as if i'd follow a referral link that says "fuk u" at the end! ;)
pankkake: referral links turn users into spammers
jurov: omg..... BingoBoingo, u want to change it? but the old one ceases to work then
BingoBoingo: jurov: I like this one. I mean one of my BTC addresses is 1LvCuntsJyFFQsLuJhBXBPokbQa7SAyMr4
mircea_popescu: Vp7771 you know you can just type mirc and hit tab, that way it actually highlights
mircea_popescu: and the 2nd doc is the registration paperwork of the panama fund thing. the first is a list.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.0609 = 0.1218 BTC [-]
ozbot: Leon Theremin playing his own instrument - YouTube
mike_c: mircea_popescu: i want to make one more push for announcing option exercises to assbot. it is the only way to know two things: 1) open interest 2) excercise costs. otherwise it's just a big mystery when/if the option holders are excercising and, not that mpex would ever make a mistake, there is no way for me to verify the excercise costs.
mike_c: um, last time you just said it "wasn't standard"
mike_c: i was hoping to sway you.
mircea_popescu: so, on one hand option exercises are not commonly announced in any market.
mike_c: sort of they are though. when excercises are assigned the option holder knows about it
benkay: you'll know if you get exercised against, mike_c. if you're calling stat regularly enough.
mike_c: no, you won't. that's my issue.
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, the btc options market is fragile, and this may be one of those cases where information aggravates problems.
benkay: yes you will if you are programmatically running bookkeeping
mike_c: no, all excercises are calculated and assigned at end-of-month
benkay: mircea_popescu: is it true that exercises aren't assigned until end of month?
mircea_popescu: exercises are assigned, but collateral is not returned until end of month.
mircea_popescu: basically underwriting an option puts you in this firm, fixed term commitment.
mike_c: i'm trying to figure out what problem the information would aggravate?
mike_c: we know when they are sold, but knowing when they are excercised would..
mircea_popescu: conceivably it would cause panic, especially if you take the returned capital to immediately go the other way.
mircea_popescu: let's take a case, as a for instance. you write 1000 calls @200, deposit 1000 btc.
mircea_popescu: a week later, the price doubles. you get exercised. you obtain say 650 btc back.
mircea_popescu: if you dump this 650 btc into buying more btc on margin, you are in fact adding to the noise
mike_c: ok. i would in fact be fine with announcing the excercise, but not returning the capital.
mircea_popescu: in a heavily mommentum traded by vastly the incompetent and clueless, on very little actgual capital
mircea_popescu: announcing the exercise is not substantially different, in that it would send an actionable signal of the same type.
mike_c: but it would take more capital to act on it.
mircea_popescu: suppose you have credit taken which gets called on the ground of exercises being announced.
mircea_popescu: well no, problem branches in a different direction now.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah. tho he cheats by having the piano there.
mircea_popescu: so, in general mike_c i can see some merit for what you're saying, and in the end things are going to move that way. mpex is in no way given for all time as it is.
mike_c: ok. i will come back and try again in a few months
mircea_popescu: i think the sort of macro stability you want here may take a little more than a few months.
mike_c: then you will probably say "no" at that time as well :)
mircea_popescu: anyway, you don't HAVE to underwrite options, you can pretty much cover all strategies simply buying
ozbot: cat plays theremin - YouTube
pankkake: I always wanted a theremin. it's not that expensive either
pankkake: of course I'd do nothing of it…
pankkake: but all the fun is moving your hands in the air!
mircea_popescu: it's really uncomfortable for humans to hold their arms extended in the air.
pankkake: indeed. and still people belive the "minority report" interface is the future
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 730 @ 0.00026399 = 0.1927 BTC [-]
mike_c: ultrasonic, like badbios
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.6448989 = 3.2245 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6448989 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: yeah. loss of fine motor control as a result of inervation of the gross motor pathways.
mircea_popescu: we're really very well designed, which means economically designed.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 96 @ 0.00599938 = 0.5759 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 136 @ 0.00269991 = 0.3672 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.061 = 0.244 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, this is also why ipads are doomed as a serious technology. no right click ? fu.)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.0076 = 0.38 BTC [-]
pankkake: everything apple makes is part of the conspiracy to slowly physically weaken humans
jurov: office chairs are biggest part
pankkake: I have to write an article about it, but keep procrastinating
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pankkake: I know. I got RSI, and it never really leaves :(
jurov: i always seek to have big desk with monitor as far as possible... means whole hands resting and no RSI, foreplay or not
jurov: actually this one is inherited from my grandpa
pankkake: oh, i was wondering about it actually
pankkake: well I usually spend more on monitors, keyboards, than on the actual computer :)
pankkake: desk ergonomics are my first question to employers, before pay
pankkake: I don't like the buckling springs