assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0142 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.428 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.010098 = 0.0707 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 11 @ 0.428 = 4.708 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.26 = 0.52 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: could beat mtgox execution speed in some cases though
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.42101 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.411002 = 0.822 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.41001 = 1.23 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.400001 = 2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2899 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.0985 = 0.197 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0985 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00108 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.00107 = 0.0107 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 189 @ 0.00107 = 0.2022 BTC [-]
[\]: asicminer is paying dividends I hear
dub: I only got the fucking satoshis
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 38 @ 0.00286 = 0.1087 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00285 = 0.0428 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 71 @ 0.00282 = 0.2002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 12 @ 0.00281 = 0.0337 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2899 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 32 @ 0.010098 = 0.3231 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.010099 = 0.101 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 227 @ 0.003289 = 0.7466 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.003322 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 464 @ 0.003322 = 1.5414 BTC [+]
gribble: I have not seen mircea_popsecu.
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 43 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> 27% spread noob
grubles: ;;later tell mircea_popescu hey id like to ask you some questions about my mpex account, thanks.
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0142 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.10478 = 0.2096 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21493 @ 0.00068748 = 14.776 BTC [+]
taub: are you a bassline junkie?
joecool: how much you want to sell it for
KRS-1: so this is the new high
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 116.00011, Best ask: 116.48899, Bid-ask spread: 0.48888, Last trade: 116.48900, 24 hour volume: 175921.25091255, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 137.46000, 24 hour vwap: 118.66396
Chaang-Noi: i just hope we dont ever go under 50 again
Chaang-Noi: but im pretty sure we will see double digits again
Chaang-Noi: this bubble bull seems over, maybe not but seems we got to wait a while for the next huge run up
Chaang-Noi: i think we will slowly trend down for a while until we find stable
Chaang-Noi: have no idea what that is, and i might not be right
Chaang-Noi: i just hope that finnish guy send me that 100k usd for the 134$ price muhahahah
jcpham: scammer tags are tossed around on the forums like they mean something
Chaang-Noi: ill still have a thread. the point was to have him prove he is a "player"
Chaang-Noi: i honestly thought he would turn me down but he said he will do it
Chaang-Noi: he is either a troll or just fucking crazy, or high
jcpham: i watched 2 people report each other to admins over bullshit in a thread today like it meant something
Chaang-Noi: if he is a troll we will find out soon enough
Chaang-Noi: i wont report to an admin, ill just make a thread
jcpham: i'll make a thread too
Chaang-Noi: i just want to prove that he is a troll, or i get 100kusd
jcpham: it will be my first one
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.23001 BTC [-]
grubles: just wondering but how are people trading with you still goat
Chaang-Noi: dont you know how bankls and btc works?
grubles: after all the pirate and tygrr stuff and whatnot
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 12 @ 0.23 = 2.76 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: lol im not pirate, and paid in fuill all my insured shit
grubles: you never gave pirate the id info for your ppt peeps right?
jcpham: that's how i feel about the forum in 3 words
Chaang-Noi: no one has made a scammers thread aginst me but some nefario perv who did it cuz i said nefario was a scammer, but after a week he apoligized and took it down
jcpham: that's what i mean forum scammer tags don't mean shit
Chaang-Noi: grubles one i never had it, and even if i did, i would need the concent of the people before i passed that info on
grubles: the forum in general doesnt mean shit
jcpham: we'd have fucked it all up by now
mircea_popescu: grubles pumping pirate was something everyone except me did.
Chaang-Noi: anyway that finish guy claims to have sent me 100k usd with no escrow
grubles: pumping in what way exactly?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2896 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: well people were saying i was helping pirate but i was really helping theymos, he asked for me to do it, to help his glbse stock price
dub: cee pee in the blockchain news dropped yet?
grubles: like penis pumping or what??
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8188 @ 0.00068748 = 5.6291 BTC [+]
jcpham: i was there in the btcst thread with Chaang-Noi
Chaang-Noi: yes dub its just links right? who cares :/
jcpham: theymos asked for an invite and no one referred him
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.23001 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 16 @ 0.23 = 3.68 BTC [-]
dub: Chaang-Noi: fox is gonna care
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.29 = 7.74 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: jcpham i refured theymos, pirate just did not accept fast enough
jcpham: so should've referred theymos
jcpham: he didn't trust theymos then
grubles: referred theymos for what?
jcpham: because he responded pretty fast
Chaang-Noi: jcpham theymos asked me to refur him, i did, then theymos did not want to wait and asked for the ppt so i did
Chaang-Noi: yeah theymos asked me to get him a btcst account
dub: was expecting greatness
Chaang-Noi: theymos wanted to pump his glbse stock and get dividends
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.40002 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.400001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.400001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.400001 = 0.8 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i still have the logs of the -onepercent doods getting all hot under their collar about it lol.
Chaang-Noi: then it went sideways and theymos did not do the right thing
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.400001 = 1.2 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi o, you did right ? it's just theymos' fault is all.
grubles: are you still after pirate legally Chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang?
Chaang-Noi: but theymos did not do what was right in all of this.
grubles: i heard you had a "contract"
Chaang-Noi: grubles after the SEC come in my lawyer said to wait
mircea_popescu: i like this guy, he has the mentality of an asian prostitute.
jcpham: i got all sorts of logs and "contracts"
jcpham: i think pirate's irc nick was a team of people now
jcpham: irc was a team if you ask me
jcpham: not just a single person
jcpham: don't think so based on your hours
grubles: jcpham, what makes you think it was more than one peep?
Chaang-Noi: tehy asked me to be one but i never responded.
jcpham: weird times i'd message him
grubles: Chaang-Noi, why not you dingus
jcpham: but especially towards the end
Chaang-Noi: grubles the SEC siad the ppt might not be safe, lol
grubles: 4 in the morning or something?
grubles: well shit ive been up way past that
Chaang-Noi: so why go in and tell them something so they can arrest my ass? lol
Chaang-Noi: even so im not a big fan of govt regulation
grubles: and tx is only an hour or two behind est
jcpham: mircea_popescu send -pr in here to talk shit
jcpham: i think i'll spot it she talk long enough
grubles: Chaang-Noi, why would they arrest you
grubles: i still think -pr is actually mircea
Chaang-Noi: they said ppt operaters might get some shit for doing that,
dub: some of the time it is
mircea_popescu: dub problem is different people can tell different bits.
Chaang-Noi: grubles they wont arrest me but they might try to take my fiat
Chaang-Noi: honestly even so im not sure i would ahve talked to the SEC, im nota big fan of govt regulation
Chaang-Noi: and also it would ahve got nefario and theymos involved and well at the time did not think that was a good idea
grubles: i thought you had 50,000 bitcoins invested with pirate
grubles: i remember you boasting about it
jcpham: Chaang-Noi you converted to a trust?
Chaang-Noi: but anyway even if i did the SEC thing and they did not fuck with me, think i would get anything back?
Chaang-Noi: i would have been a trust account if we got that far
jcpham: i never felt comfortable with other people's money
KRS-1: so I'm seeing a falling wedge which indicates an overall rising price
jcpham: disclosure: i had funds of three toher people in-and-out
grubles: at the very least you could help send pirate to prison and/or help him get the shit fined out of him
Chaang-Noi: well i told people where it was going and they knew the rules, that is why no one called me a scammer
jcpham: it's funny how downstream the lending went
jcpham: magical interest from defaltionary coins
Chaang-Noi: pirate will get his once things calm down and the sec goes away, there are many many people after his ass...
KRS-1: which is a reversal..
grubles: am i the only fucking person doing anything about this
Chaang-Noi: no there are other witnesses working with the sec now
dub: hrm smaller AM div this week
jcpham: what would you like for me to do grubles
jcpham: call the sec about the 300principal, 1300 interest coins or so i lost
jcpham: that i gave to someone else and believe existed
dub: mircea_popescu: yeah, more hashing too
dub: 0.00735415 this week
Chaang-Noi: thing is im not so sure priate has much of anything left
Chaang-Noi: my effort is trying to get my coins from mt gox from bitcoinica
jcpham: i don't care now i just want to kill him or hurt him
jcpham: money doesn't matter anymore
Chaang-Noi: there are a lot of rich bitcoiners now who want to hurt pirate
jcpham: a lot of people should die
Chaang-Noi: im pretty sure one of them will do something sooner or alter
grubles: the dipshit doesnt realize i hosted btclending.com back in the day
jborkl: AM kept 2000 back for reinvestment upcoming
Chaang-Noi: but really pirate knows that, he much be a scarred pussy right now
mircea_popescu: "i'm sure someone else will put the work in sooner or later"
jcpham: if i see him i'll shoot at him
grubles: ive spoken with numerous guberment peeps
grubles: specifically the collins county DA's office
jcpham: i'll shoot him in the foot for you then grubles
Chaang-Noi: grubles any of the govt people going to do anything?
jcpham: they can catch him limping
jborkl: yes.from what i understand next batch is funded
jcpham: or one of those rabbit traps with a carrot
grubles: lol dude you know itd be stupid for me to condone that shit in words on the gd internet
jcpham: i'd never advocate violence
jcpham: unless stole a lot of money from me by lying to me
grubles: i know but some people are stupid
Chaang-Noi: 15th is still on track says firedcat, fucking awesome
jborkl: massive USB stick miner release and upcoming orders i am guessing
grubles: 12-13k eventually over time
Chaang-Noi: i lost my money with pirate but i did not lend more than i could lose, i realize how silly it was and well, lesson learned
Chaang-Noi: he is only about the 20th person who has scammed me
grubles: i probably withdrew way more than 1k over the course of btcst
jcpham: principal is all that existed
Chaang-Noi: grubles then if you took more than you got in the govt can take that from you
grubles: and that was back in $2 days
grubles: if i took more than i got?
jcpham: i've walked away from because the only real money was on the blockchain
Chaang-Noi: if you make 1200 and lost 1000 the govt can and will take that 200 from you
jcpham: like all those paypal buys grubles
jcpham: i should be pissed at you
jcpham: for selling me nothing
Chaang-Noi: <grubles> i probably withdrew way more than 1k over the course of btcst
jcpham: like when i'd buy coins from your account
jcpham: and they'd get transferred to my
Chaang-Noi: he took out more than he put in, and he is telling that to the govt, facepalm
grubles: yeah facepalm im being honest
Chaang-Noi: are you willing to give that extra to the govt?
jcpham: the principal and what existed on the blockchain is all that ever be proven
jcpham: anything else is imaginary pirate math
Chaang-Noi: grubles do what you want but if pirate gets charged they will then go after people like you who made money on this and try to get it back, they did it to madoff
jcpham: you can see if you made money or not
jcpham: it's on the blockchain
mircea_popescu: methinks grubles didn't think this whole thing through
jcpham: deposit address/withdrawal addres
jcpham: subtract the difference
mircea_popescu: if you deposited 1k, withdrew 1.15k and consider yourself a victim
grubles: trust me ive got it covered
Chaang-Noi: clawback, that is the word i was looking for
jcpham: i moved on because of that
grubles: obv this shit is complicated
jcpham: according to the blockchain i lost
Chaang-Noi: see people whgo lost money can sue you grubles for the money you made in civil court
grubles: ok so what is considered "lost money"
mircea_popescu: "A pupil shall be permitted to participate in sex-segregated school programs, and activities, and facilities, including athletic teams and competitions, and use facilities consistent with his or her gender identity, irrespective of the gender listed on the pupil’s records."
jcpham: my definition is anything depostid not returned
Chaang-Noi: i thin this is why the govt is having such a hard time, cuz the govt wants to charge everyone involved (or take their money) so no one is helping them
mircea_popescu: dude back in my day i didn't have to claim i feel like a girl to hang out in the girls' locker room.
grubles: "the govt" as in who exactly
jcpham: funds went in via blockchain
grubles: the SEC is only concerned with bullshit investment opportunities
jcpham: they left via blockchain
jcpham: so they care about promised interest
grubles: as soon as pirate started attracting investors he started pissing in the wind
Chaang-Noi: the SEC i think is being used to gather info, who will then p[ass it along to fbi and what not
Chaang-Noi: they even told me that when they wanted me to be a witness
jcpham: my talks with pirate were about keeping coins off the market
grubles: p. moustakis, head attorney, submits info to a committee which then reviews it
jcpham: purposefully raising the price
Chaang-Noi: grubles if you are claiming the sec never shares info with the fbi and other departments, i lulz at you
grubles: oh i dunno if they do or not
jcpham: a still think any entity that can keep coins off of exchanges in an organized fashion is winning
jcpham: hedge fund/pirate fund/ whatever
grubles: pirate spoke about a 'client' that fucked him over
grubles: id like to know who that person it
mircea_popescu: i think few people realise that the main brake to btc adoption is simply that people are too stupid.
mircea_popescu: well... if a hundred million people didn't include ninetynine million and change idiots, maybe. as it is... nowai.
Chaang-Noi: grubles might it be that other ponzi umm wtf was it called...
Chaang-Noi: grubles did you ever hear of that other ponzi?
Chaang-Noi: pirates wife talked about it on twater
Chaang-Noi: PS. I really get high every time I taste good water. Even yesterday EuroTrash though I was drunk (I wasn't).
jcpham: grubles i've interacted with a lot of bitcoiners as have you guys
mircea_popescu: "I have the actual ability to keep Bitcoin network and bitcoin price up indefinitely long"
jcpham: it's hard to imagine pirateat40 had some client
jcpham: we haven't found out about yet
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.428 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: this might play well for selling silver in finland
Chaang-Noi: well i think he might really be trying to be respected and be a playing, but everyone is laughing at him
Chaang-Noi: im not so sure he knows what he is doing
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2879 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00068748 = 5.053 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 1.2879 = 21.8943 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.288 = 12.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.288 = 12.88 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi i wonder if he now makes some posts going "O here I am the REAL rpietilla this other guy stole my identity
Chaang-Noi: i wonder if people go to findland and no one is there
Chaang-Noi: some people said something about emails as well
dub: asking for confirmation of acceptance to the product changes
dub: yes, or if you ignore the email
Chaang-Noi: so much for them sending extra to make up for it
mircea_popescu: which i find a little silly, i dunno wtf these people think they;ll do with the judgements.
Chaang-Noi: ill lol after the make this asll, then say we are getting sued cant ship.. then they mine and keep all btcs
dub: you either agree to accept the new terms and receive altered product
dub: I assume this is to avoid gettign sued
Chaang-Noi: can they force give you a refund like a year after you buy something?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.27 = 2.54 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: dub did they say when they would ship the bigger units?
dub: "Shipping of our BitForce SC ASIC miners has begun! "
inhies: but that probably doesnt count for the bitbet on the july date
inhies: since apparently we're basing the specs on the cancelled jalapeno specs?
Chaang-Noi: "The Block Erupter USB sticks passed all the tests and we are about to produce them in quantity."
Chaang-Noi: but they will sell, and make my ass rich
inhies: mircea_popescu: the july bet was made 1 month 2 weeks ago (15-03-2013)
dub: inhies: todays email is the first notification I've had from BFL about power usage changes
Chaang-Noi: i need more hookers and blow, i only have enough cash for thenext 20 years
mircea_popescu: inhies rthey hadn't changed their spec midmarch yet had they ?
damientrog: life is so boring without silk roads now
Chaang-Noi: im not going to have drugs sent to thailand, hahaha
Chaang-Noi: i wont lie, life is over all pretty damn good
inhies: mircea_popescu: im just referring to that thread where the specs that are used are apparently from 2012
inhies: for a cancelled product
inhies: they arent shipping jalalpenos
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 34 @ 0.0142 = 0.4828 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: dub lol basically bfl has found the way to prevent being humiliated by nondelivery bets : create spec confusion.
Chaang-Noi: how did that difficulty 10 million bet work out?
dub: this is at the bottom of todays email
dub: Jalapenos Out the Door
dub: Packaged for its adventure to a new home. Bye Jalapeno! Your owner eagerly awaits your arrival.
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.10475 = 0.2095 BTC [-]
dub: sounds like they're shipping japaenos
jcpham: anyone know who this is
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [+]
jcpham: jonathan stacke operates this blog
Chaang-Noi: Difficulty 10,076,293 haha it went over, wow, damn close eh
jcpham: this name is not familiar
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2946 = 2.5892 BTC [+]
inhies: i thoguth they werent making that product anymore
inhies: but this could just be BFL being stupid woth words again, not sure
truff1es: wouldnt it be awesome to only need 3hrs sleep
SoulKhan: I think uberman is a bit different
SoulKhan: isn't that 6hours and then 30minutes?
truff1es: dunno only just found out about it
SoulKhan: if it's something you wouldn't be able to take a 20 minute nap.. you'll never be able to sustain it
truff1es: ok he might do the 3hrs multiple times a day
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10474 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.10475 = 0.9428 BTC [+]
truff1es: 10hrs half the day is gone almost
damientrog: his secret might be also a meth addiction
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00069254 = 22.2998 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00069722 = 10.4932 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8485 @ 0.00070278 = 5.9631 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00070373 = 1.0556 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7286 @ 0.0007057 = 5.1417 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16967 @ 0.0007058 = 11.9753 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00070625 = 6.1444 BTC [+]
damientrog: I like a good night's rest, 8-10 hours gone, but a clear mind the rest of the day
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4109 @ 0.00070678 = 2.9042 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00070991 = 2.1652 BTC [+]
truff1es: some people get older and require less sleep, not me
damientrog: well once you get used to being woken up every couple of hours
damientrog: and I think it's when you're in your 50s or something you start to really decline in sleep
truff1es: i could survive any situation but i wont do it with a smile
damientrog: but I know a guy who practices microsleeps
damientrog: literally sleeps while waiting at traffic lights for example
truff1es: he must have a pocket protector
damientrog: but when he does sleep at night, you really can't wake him up anymore
damientrog: that fucker puts his alarm clock at 5 am
truff1es: omg he's not gonna live long if he keeps that up
damientrog: I read a book about about Fatal familial insomnia
truff1es: i bet he'll finally give in and sleep for like 24hrs or something
damientrog: well he does function as a manager, busting other people's balls
damientrog: but it all seems unhealthy and kind of a bragging thing
damientrog: I've done academia research and am a software developer. No way I will produce quality without 8 hrs sleep
damientrog: but probably could bust people's balls 24/7
damientrog: kinda reminds of a bet they did on TV here
damientrog: the bet was if you could stay awake for 48hrs
Framedragger: just spent >= 4 hours tracking a bug in an open source library (though, oh yeah i'll shine) only to learn that i should use absolute paths when invoking it. #storyofmylife
damientrog: the guy who won cheated and admitted he took amphetamines
truff1es: maybe with ease 5 years ago, now might have problems
damientrog: you sleep a couple of mins without noticing
truff1es: Framedragger thats not a bad problem to have imo
truff1es: if u sit at a desk or couch might fall asleep sure
Framedragger: yeah could have been worse for sure :) still.. outcome much less epic than expected :(
damientrog: absolute paths don't sound fantastic though
Framedragger: they don't, and there's a way around it, but i was simply testing out a library
Framedragger: (it's python. python can find its own system path of course etc. still... arrrgh)
damientrog: I absolutely hate the obligatory __self__ parameter in every method
truff1es: im falling in love with python
damientrog: it's named after Monty Python, so there
Framedragger: i like certain metaprogramming aspects of ruby. ruby succeeds in being a more true 'wanna be lispian' kid as opposed to python
truff1es: ruby is foreign to me, i see what python can do
Framedragger: i'm one of those who wishes to have had a lisp background.. now i'm only trying to slowly learn on my own :)
truff1es: python just seems so well organized
damientrog: I really appreciate the CS uni education I had
damientrog: we got Scheme, Lisp, Smalltalk, and bitfuck C
Framedragger: yeah python really gets the job done for many domains. e.g. it's real good for scientific computing (numpy, plotting, speed support from C implementations of the stuff that matters etc)
truff1es: exactly the stuff that matters in life
damientrog: my favorite project was to extend the language that our professor made (Pico)
Framedragger: well i'm veeery slowly getting into haskell. i'm all up for "fuck practical things, let's do category theory in programming!!11!"
damientrog: it's a functional lisp like language with a c-like syntax
damientrog: I plastered my walls with all the code
Framedragger: i can only imagine. was it interpreted or actually compiled? writing compilers is a whole new level of brainfuck
damientrog: I've got my own language on my name too :)
damientrog: well we started a spin-off at university
damientrog: the product was an engine that does format translations
damientrog: e.g. from one kind of xml to another or sql
damientrog: so you declare the semantics of you schema
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.46757, Best ask: 118.75851, Bid-ask spread: 0.29094, Last trade: 118.75851, 24 hour volume: 171386.05891753, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 133.74990, 24 hour vwap: 117.82079
damientrog: so you actually explain in almost natural languages what the schemas mean
damientrog: and translates your data to any format it understands
Framedragger: i've seen some ruby code that attempts to do those kinds of things i think. but if you ended up implementing a parser for such a thing, then truly awesome!
damientrog: since it needed to be implemented in a service bus and platform independent
Framedragger: is it a published / open source project / is there a repo?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.400001 BTC [-]
truff1es: i was just gonna say ure gonna be easy to find heh
damientrog: and it's a unique reference to only 1 person on this earth I think
damientrog: at least my first name is pronouncable in English
damientrog: that matters more than you can imagine
Framedragger: "My research is centered around the development of a formalism for ontological commitments." - wait, ontological commitments as in analytic philosophy, or something something formal logic?
truff1es: ure putting philosophy into executeables omg
Framedragger: (the word 'ontological' has certain connotations for me.)
Framedragger: kk, i'm just randomly browsing through, have work to do, but bookmarking your page
truff1es: too advanced for me to read but pretty cool!
damientrog: most of that shit I learned from my professor then
truff1es: turning test not that great imo
damientrog: main thing to learn is the difference between syntax and semantics
truff1es: let the robots wait another 50 yrs til im dead umk
Framedragger: alan turing basically invented the concept of modern computer and computation
damientrog: but he was gay so we basically made his life hell for it
Framedragger: poor guy. universal turing machine so awesome, life sucked balls
truff1es: sexuality has no business in educational setting..
damientrog: brilliant minds are rarely appreciated at their currenttime
truff1es: if he's the best at it, why should it matter
truff1es: unless he was sexing on the job
truff1es: buttsex has been discussed in here dont worry
☟︎☟︎ Framedragger: social stigma in UK unavoidable at the time, etc etc
damientrog: unless they start putting penises in the software
dub: ur an Operating Thetan?
damientrog: like I suspected a gay colleague to be doing
truff1es: they could put penis in the machines
damientrog: but then I said, but… it looks like a penis there
damientrog: it's like being told, do you hear that squeeky noise?
damientrog: you won't be able to get it out of your head
Framedragger: dunno the context, but was probably hilarious + awkward
damientrog: well we're still in touch, if I dare to express it like that
damientrog: agaisnt me letting him redesign UI because I saw a penis in it
truff1es: "An Operating Thetan, then, is one who can handle things without having to use a body of physical means. "
damientrog: and telling him I wanted a UI that made me think of rainbows
truff1es: nerds tend to be gay, he shouldnt have felt the need to design that
damientrog: yes I have that suspicion as well, in the best research unit of uni 50% was gay
Framedragger: eh, i consider everybody to be on a sexuality continuum, but with very varying positions nonetheless ofc. but yeah no need to bring that stuff to workplace
truff1es: becoming gay from fear of women or lack of women?
damientrog: I don't mind, it's kind of interesting, but sometimes a bit too much detail
truff1es: open work environment, easier ideas flow maybe
damientrog: if you ever go to a dark room, whatever you do, don't touch the walls
damientrog: I don't think they clean the walls a lot
damientrog: okay enough entertainment, gotta do some work
truff1es: nice to know people in the know, u know
Framedragger: yeah got updated on.. human affairs, can continue work
damientrog: where do I dump my coins to be promised I will get some of that?
damientrog: my worst fear is being on the toilet when DHL delivers my Avalons
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 12.4330791 BTC to 3`000`000 shares, 414 satoshi per share
Uglux: Where are my dragons.....ehh 55TH ? :(
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00071 = 4.899 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.29 = 6.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2949 = 3.8847 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.295 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.295 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.299 = 2.598 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 18 @ 0.010001 = 0.18 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.26 = 0.52 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.10474 = 0.3142 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6411 @ 0.00071259 = 4.5684 BTC [+]
BitHub: not enough data, cant chart it :(
BitHub: i want to try running mpex data through sierra charts
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00071 = 14.484 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 47 @ 0.10474 = 4.9228 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 14 @ 0.10475 = 1.4665 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00172 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 7 @ 0.10478 = 0.7335 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 5 @ 0.00173 = 0.0087 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 85 @ 0.001749 = 0.1487 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 26 @ 0.428 = 11.128 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.1064 = 2.128 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15353 @ 0.00071 = 10.9006 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 4000 @ 0.00172499 = 6.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.471 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.46610099 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.4622 = 6.4708 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.461999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.469 = 0.938 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.26 = 0.52 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C110T] 1 @ 0.36168194 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.0054 = 0.0108 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0054 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1064 = 0.2128 BTC [+]
KRS-1: I'm getting emails from Mt. Cocks from Apr 25 for trades I made...its a little late.
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.1064 = 0.3192 BTC [+]
KRS-1: mtgox did not create their SSL certificate correctly. If you go to www.mtgox.com you will get a cert error. They either did not buy a wildcard certificate or create the request using www.
KRS-1: no cause for concern though, the certificate is still okay, you can even remove the www from your URL and the error will go away. In either case your data exchange with them will still be encrypted.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 41 @ 0.003623 = 0.1485 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.01442 = 0.0577 BTC [+]
dub: make the next password start with a /
dub: (and a lot longer :)
dub: I think pirate and asicminer is a fair comparison really
dub: we know a lot more about pirate
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.014288 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.0142 = 0.0852 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.014 = 0.126 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00174 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 44 @ 0.001749 = 0.077 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 35 @ 0.010001 = 0.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.1064 = 0.3192 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 40 @ 0.00301 = 0.1204 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.298 = 2.596 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3 = 2.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31000003 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.3 = 6.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.299 = 2.598 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: sure hope that finish guy really sends me that fiat...
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27305 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27304 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.27303 = 2.5461 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.27302 = 2.546 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.273 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.269 = 6.345 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.2681 = 15.2172 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4601 BTC [-]
gribble: target: 127, 130, 136 | updated by OneFixt at May 1 2013, 19:37 UTC ( tips:
http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer:
http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 17 hours, 48 minutes, and 41 seconds ago
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 111.58999, Best ask: 111.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.41000, Last trade: 111.99999, 24 hour volume: 205521.58405264, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 131.00000, 24 hour vwap: 116.42585
error4733: Bears are pretty inventive : Bear are pretty inventive
lippoper: Zimbabwe is broke, so btc is broke
ThickAsThieves: mt gox raided: "This topic has been moved to Trashcan. "
error4733: bear spread FUD :) bull spread BS ! hard time
lippoper: bulls raise prices, bears lower prices ! hard time already
lippoper: who has a positive earning strategy.py file?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29899 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 1.299 = 23.382 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
lippoper: (9:27:03 AM) ThickAsThieves: zimbabwae thing is bs
lippoper: (9:28:08 AM) error4733: bear spread FUD :) bull spread BS ! hard time
lippoper: I think error4733 called ThickAsThieves a BS spreading bull
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 1.3 = 24.7 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i am so impressed the forum will try and keep a lid on it. srsly now.
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin sachs is the same guy that posted the zimbab thing
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00148 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.0014 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4600001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.46 = 4.6 BTC [-]
error4733: i put a warning before "bear are inventive"
error4733: but a fking retard on bitcoin.fr put the zimbab news on front page...
error4733: priceless ! same when a friend post on facebook a onion link on first degre haha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5189 @ 0.00071259 = 3.6976 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5868 @ 0.00071946 = 4.2218 BTC [+]
b0n1: omg i think the report thing on can caused the down at the moment
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00139 BTC [-]
b0n1: so crazy how easy the market can be influenced
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.0011 = 0.011 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27012 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2500 @ 0.00109 = 2.725 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27011 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 242 @ 0.00108 = 0.2614 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26209 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.00108 = 0.0216 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26207 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 227 @ 0.00107 = 0.2429 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.262057 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.262046 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.262011 = 2.524 BTC [-]
b0n1: what do you think is the reason for the current down?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.262 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.254 = 3.762 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.253 = 2.506 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 25 @ 0.010097 = 0.2524 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.252511 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 105.92701, Best ask: 106.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07299, Last trade: 106.00000, 24 hour volume: 210750.82541399, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 130.99990, 24 hour vwap: 116.05280
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 789 @ 0.010097 = 7.9665 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 189 @ 0.010098 = 1.9085 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.01023 = 0.0409 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 18 @ 0.01024 = 0.1843 BTC [+]
error4733: 99 please, the last one in btc history
thestringpuller: we need more reason to buy bitcoins but everyone is fucking up everywhere lol
gribble: Error: "goxdown" is not a valid command.
error4733: order book can't lie :) 90 easy imo
Chaang-Noi: so i have a back up wallet, made from satoshi client, now i installed it and i dont see my coins, but they are on the block chain, what do?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00108 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 124 @ 0.00107 = 0.1327 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.00105 = 0.0105 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 39 @ 0.00101 = 0.0394 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 26 @ 0.001 = 0.026 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: kako i thought so do so i went to the consol and it wont let me
pgp2: I definately think we will test 100 and prolly go through... not that much coin on the bid...
Chaang-Noi: and i typed nothing else but -rescan in consol
pgp2: new two week low...
gribble: There are currently 7838.7088 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.5 USD, worth 800450.060155 USD in total. | Data vintage: 106.3266 seconds
error4733: any idea why BTC E is more expensive than mtgox ?
mircea_popescu: #Nasdaq says it is investigating potentially erroneous trade in $WST. Looks like 1 went thru at $103.80 40 secs after open v current $65.10.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 99.99990, Best ask: 100.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00010, Last trade: 100.00000, 24 hour volume: 224841.25107748, 24 hour low: 100.36000, 24 hour high: 130.85000, 24 hour vwap: 115.23849
gribble: There are currently 27359138 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14657784.8124 USD in total. | Data vintage: 44.1781 seconds
davout: haha this is for real ?
pgp2: no real resistance until 90
Bugpowder: That japanese cop is reading a book about wine
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P098T] 1000 @ 0.3659749 = 365.9749 BTC [+]
davout: oh, the catch is in the "ireport." part
Scrat: By BitCoinSachs | Posted 2013-5-1 下午4:22
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P101T] 1000 @ 0.39552257 = 395.5226 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P104T] 716 @ 0.42595915 = 304.9868 BTC
MJR_: FINRA has determined to cancel all trades in security West Pharmaceutical Services, Inc. (WST) at or above $69.59
thestringpuller: Mt. Gox bitcoin exchange may be responsible for the DDoS attacks
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 96.21000, Best ask: 96.59033, Bid-ask spread: 0.38033, Last trade: 96.21000, 24 hour volume: 230568.96532113, 24 hour low: 97.00000, 24 hour high: 130.85000, 24 hour vwap: 114.82734
pgp2: either it's fake and will be excellent buying oportunity or it's true and BTC will go to 30
Scrat: it can still be fake and go to 30
pgp2: ThickAsTheives; the ireport article
Scrat: ireport = sea of trolls
Scrat: take it for what it is
mircea_popescu: [Hiring/Intern] Asset Issuer, News Information Manager, Securities Analyst
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 104.00000, Best ask: 104.93269, Bid-ask spread: 0.93269, Last trade: 104.93269, 24 hour volume: 237138.69054080, 24 hour low: 96.21000, 24 hour high: 130.85000, 24 hour vwap: 114.35572
MJR_: am i missing something?
MJR_: either the situation is exactly as is now...or it goes up
gribble: There are currently 127125.24 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 8980307.51995 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0060 seconds
gribble: There are currently 55216.295 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 7421517.62196 USD in total. | Data vintage: 18.2228 seconds
mircea_popescu: either it's exactly as now, or it goes up, or it goes down
Scrat: too bad that's talking about ATMs
jcpham: i like to apply concepts
Scrat: banks do have central DBs. and surprise surprise they are not eventually consistent
jcpham: but yes atms are boring
Scrat: why did he take the article down :p
mircea_popescu: Scrat it was more a historical look, which is accurate, and an in principle review, which also is accurate
Scrat: I guess you can call a system like ACH eventually consistent
jcpham: is bitcoin the national currency of zimbabwe for real?
pgp2: megatrolled... yes...
lippoper: That's the new eveil main character from the new Transformers movie
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [+]
MJR_: mircea_popescu: my only point was that whether zimbabwe switches to bitcoin or not, neither outcome in my mind is "bad" news
MJR_: so why would people sell?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.00000, Best ask: 96.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 94.00000, 24 hour volume: 247208.59898683, 24 hour low: 96.21000, 24 hour high: 130.60000, 24 hour vwap: 113.40334
MJR_: also, the camwhore is amazing
MJR_: great trader i guess
damientrog: why does cnn whore out its name and reputation like that?
MJR_: cnn is a whorish network
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 95.00000, Best ask: 95.18595, Bid-ask spread: 0.18595, Last trade: 95.18595, 24 hour volume: 250934.34771713, 24 hour low: 94.00000, 24 hour high: 130.55000, 24 hour vwap: 113.12523
MJR_: you should see the clip from the boston bombing where wolf blitzer keeps saying "cnn is bringing this to you exclusively"
MJR_: and they were wrong
MJR_: "we are the only ones reporting this!"
lippoper: CNN has managed to be worse than Fox
MJR_: which is hard to do
MJR_: now its all just a bunch of gimmicks
MJR_: look at our touch screen panel
MJR_: fuck that, i like journalism, read al jazeera
damientrog: I don't live in the US, so I sometimes can't even begin to imagine what it's like
MJR_: even russia today is better
damientrog: last times I watched tv in states it seemed unreal to me
damientrog: I cannot imagine being constantly in such a blizzard of shit
MJR_: and now...sometimes i go to a site and they will say "we don't accept customers from your country"
MJR_: :( second class citizens
damientrog: you are not allowed to watch this video in your country
MJR_: thank god for ssh tunnels and proxying
MJR_: zimbabwe accepting bitcoins is about mt gox?
MJR_: someone gave me the wrong link
MJR_: i knew i was missing something
mircea_popescu: aanyway. fox news actually owned on the viewer cards for the bombing.
MJR_: fox news makes me sad
damientrog: The movie idiocracy seems like a prophecy
lippoper: Want some big ass fries with that?
MJR_: yeah is idiocracy the opposite of meritocracy?
damientrog: the reign of the stupid vs the reign of those who have proven themselves
mircea_popescu: @nntaleb 1h If someone you never met calls you "arrogant", it means he can't find anything else. Otherwise he would have said "wrong". Heuristic #81
damientrog: there goes my last bit of cocnentration I had
error4733: This is bitcoin, i belive he was missing ! high: 130.00 low: 91.11 55s lag
davout: mircea_popescu: nice management book
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27 BTC [-]
tk993: How much disk space would I Need on a virtual machine dedicated to all things bitcoin? 25gb enough?
Doffx: Depends on what operating system as well
Doffx: windows you want to start at 25
Doffx: That will be pleanty of space then
mircea_popescu: tk993 the bitcoin blockchain is about 10gb atm and probably grow 10ish gb a year
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00332 = 0.0332 BTC [-]
imsaguy: "AMC is a business unit of VMC"
imsaguy: great, now who the hell is VMC?
jcpham: profit is boring 1:1 repayment
ThickAsThieves: that furuknap guy is the same one that thinks I should run TAT.ASICMINER with no mgmt fee
imsaguy: I can see certain instances where someone would expect someone to not take a management fee
imsaguy: say when they get a board seat that they normally wouldn't have
mircea_popescu: i don't see any case when anyone should do anything for free.
imsaguy: getting the board seat is the perk, not every payment is in currency
ThickAsThieves: board seat is arguably valuable, and i have already stated any tangible board seat benefits would be split w shareholders
mircea_popescu: imsaguy maybe like that, tho it's always best to take a clear payment than an unclear one
imsaguy: getting a board seat is pretty clear ;-)
imsaguy: Not everything has an easily calculated value
imsaguy: for example, calculate the value of girl's life.
imsaguy: At the very least, the opportunity for insider trading
mircea_popescu: " Roll out the Red Carpet! You received 1 reply from a celebrity! Amazing! " << this klout thing is retarded.
mircea_popescu: imsaguy so what, not like i'm payhing anyone in girl lives.
ThickAsThieves: total social media meta gaming to get you to social media more
imsaguy: question for you when you're here
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.11000, Best ask: 94.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 94.00000, 24 hour volume: 274284.18541062, 24 hour low: 91.11000, 24 hour high: 129.75000, 24 hour vwap: 111.37083
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.00000, Best ask: 92.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 92.00000, 24 hour volume: 274284.18541062, 24 hour low: 91.11000, 24 hour high: 129.75000, 24 hour vwap: 111.37083
ThickAsThieves: then keep your eye on that mega manipulation floor at 70
imsaguy: ThickAsThieves, the client is
imsaguy: don't know if DT is actively at the computer
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.255 = 5.02 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 96.01000, Best ask: 96.21999, Bid-ask spread: 0.20999, Last trade: 96.01000, 24 hour volume: 274720.80247070, 24 hour low: 91.11000, 24 hour high: 128.00000, 24 hour vwap: 110.65029
mjr_1: ;;later tell pgp just testing
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.279 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.28 = 2.56 BTC [+]
tk993: Is there a way to view my private PGP key? Is there a reason to or is it just stored somewhere on the computer... mainly I want to make sure I exported my public key properly.
davout: gpg -a --export-secret-key
tk993: Header is private key block. for the other it is public key block? Are they different structures or how does it know? Or does it just know? Say for example I sent my public key and kept the headers of the private key... does that not matter because all the information is in the string of characters?
davout: mjr_1: nothing much, chilling, having a brew, getting haxxed
davout: using mpex in the butt, i wouldn't recommend it to friends
mjr_1: i don't recommend it
davout: yep, and likewise i wouldn't recommend it to friends
mjr_1: would you allow a non-bitcoin based business to ipo on mpex?
mjr_1: obviously they would raise bitcoins, but could convert to dollars
mircea_popescu: mjr_1 i think ing is in a position to ask me to make any exception it wants.
deadweasel: Use existing demo practice patients to demonstrate Canadian content/results (TBD...Matt to decide if we want to add a Canadian patient)
deadweasel: Add logic to display Canadian content based on the URL
deadweasel: if demo.vetconnectplus.com display US-English content
deadweasel: US footer, phone numbers, email addresses, numeric codes in the patient list, etc
deadweasel: if demo.vetconnectplus.ca display CA-English content
deadweasel: docking station switches my mouse buttons
Framedragger: lol re: story, more media exposure for bitcoin i guess
davout: mircea_popescu: nice tits!
davout: mircea_popescu: is that what she said?
mircea_popescu: there's like... new ruby 0days and whatnot, nowhere to use them
davout: we're trying to get xavier niel to make us some colocated space in his not-yet-opened atomic-bunker data center
davout: he's already in line to chip in for our next round :)
mjr_1: so CNN iReport seems to be as accurate as CNN
davout: probably the shortest successful investor pitch ever made
imsaguy: it seems AM is finally hitting their original target hashrate
imsaguy: now they can hit their next goal of triple the original
mircea_popescu: imsaguy when was it originally supposed to be 12th, march ?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 101.09942, Best ask: 102.40143, Bid-ask spread: 1.30201, Last trade: 103.15638, 24 hour volume: 286019.66613392, 24 hour low: 91.11000, 24 hour high: 127.00987, 24 hour vwap: 109.79778
imsaguy: mircea_popescu, to be honest, I don't remember the exact date at this point
mircea_popescu: fucking hell with these people, everyone thinks it's funny to keep changing specs promises etc
imsaguy: mircea_popescu: there are no means to enforcing
imsaguy: but nobody has taken it upon themselves to try
mjr_1: 4 and a half years for insider trading \
imsaguy: mircea_popescu: your latest link was for a quote from a different user
imsaguy: earlier in the thread than the one I linked to
mircea_popescu: uya well apparently even her can't keep uo with the idiocy
mjr_1: lol he made 72 million, got fined 4 million
imsaguy: its like goign into a church and trying to have a conversation
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.279 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "I'm truly glad you focus on red herrings, so why don't we make this discussion about accounting instead, then?"
imsaguy: mjr_1: he also paid 4.5 years of his life
mircea_popescu: they keep teaching the peasants how to write, end result is the fucking internet.
imsaguy: is 4.5 years of your life worth 68M?
mircea_popescu: education should be either all the way or not at all. enough of this "literate but still clueless" bs.
mjr_1: lol, and depends on "to who"
truff1es: a human lives to 100 approx these days
mjr_1: to me...i think i would go to jail for 4.5 years for 68 million, maybe
davout: 4.5 of surprise butsecks? not even for 21M BTC
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 16 @ 0.1064 = 1.7024 BTC [+]
imsaguy: mircea_popescu: since when do you have to be fag to enjoy butsecks?
imsaguy: because I know a bunch of girl fags
davout: #bitcoin-anal is the place
mircea_popescu: imsaguy true that. i enjoy butt seks all the time, in the butt wrapped around my hard cock sense of the term
truff1es: <davout> 4.5 of surprise butsecks? not even for 21M BTC>>> its just a penis
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 101.97671, Best ask: 102.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.87329, Last trade: 102.85000, 24 hour volume: 287472.57675907, 24 hour low: 91.11000, 24 hour high: 126.90000, 24 hour vwap: 109.62469
ThickAsThieves: sounds more like, oh we kinda got caught, so lets kinda admit it
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves first it was just a day, then a week, then a tester w/o authorisation etc
jcpham: unauthorized getworks!
jcpham: cause you know they weren't using stratum
imsaguy: mircea_popescu: I give it a 5 on a 10 scale
imsaguy: its like listening to an american pop song
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2795 BTC [+]
truff1es: nothing gets the point across more than calling somone an idiot
imsaguy: you have a pool of pregenerated, but nto displayed addresses maintained by bitcoind
mircea_popescu: is there a limit to the size of the pool that you can refill safely ?
imsaguy: some people keep pools of thousands
mircea_popescu: how exactly does it use the entropy or wtf does it do ?
imsaguy: or were you banned there too?
davout: it pregenerates the addies, so it eats entropy when you refill the pool
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3482 @ 0.00071946 = 2.5052 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 418 @ 0.00072562 = 0.3033 BTC [+]
davout: i usually have a 10k pool
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 21 @ 0.1064 = 2.2344 BTC [+]
davout: on user-facing services
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.107395 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: did you run strength analysis on the keys or any soprt of cryptographic validation ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.107397 = 0.4296 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.108999 = 0.327 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.109 = 0.218 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: my main concern is that the code is probably shit and we'll end up with weak keys towards the end
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.109 = 5.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.109996 = 0.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 22 @ 0.109997 = 2.4199 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 139 @ 0.109998 = 15.2897 BTC [+]
davout: well, i don't know the code very well, but i think the address generation part probably relies on openssl
davout: which should behave fine
mircea_popescu: blessfully iirc that has no secret OPENSSL_CONFIG files needed.
imsaguy: parts are based on openssl
imsaguy: but if you try to plug it into openssl, they fail
davout: if we don't have a proper spec by 1.0 i'm out :-)
davout: i'll switch to SpecCoin
mircea_popescu: davout there's no dispute that the neckbeard collective is going away.
Scrat: davout: it does, it never blocks and it is also seeded from /dev/urandom (which never blocks too)
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.26 BTC [+]
davout: that would allow one to build a fully validating implementation ? nope
davout: because "it's complicated"
davout: because "oh, but some of openssl's bugs are now relied upon as features"
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2795 BTC [+]
imsaguy: FEATURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Framedragger: might make sense to be curling some very long gutenberg ebook txt while generating though heh
Scrat: /dev/urandom uses sha1, if someone can preimage sha1 at will you're in deep doodoo
Scrat: sort of like the people who made gambling machines who used the mersenne twister
imsaguy: whenever my entropy pool is empty, I just pipe in 0
imsaguy: nobody would ever suspect 0 as a RNG seed.
Scrat: preimages are hard. even on md5
Framedragger: Scrat might be an interesting exercise heh, though yeah realistically, it's really fine
Scrat: collisions are quadratically easier but useless for predicting future prng output
Scrat: IANAC (iana cryptographer)
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.014 = 0.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 7 @ 0.1066 = 0.7462 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12045 @ 0.00071572 = 8.6208 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9755 @ 0.00071057 = 6.9316 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.01023 = 0.1535 BTC [-]
mjr_1: i was just discussing password length vs stupid @ symbol instead of a schemes
mjr_1: making passwords too difficult means i leave sticky note
mjr_1: 2FA or 12+ characters is better
truff1es: but still prob easy to hack if it is all lowercase right
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.26 = 0.78 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31189999 BTC [+]
damientrog: after a shitty day friedcat made it all good by providing me with the tracking nr for my asicminer order
damientrog: now I want to make someone else's day shitty by gloating, and it's all good
truff1es: the day started off strong with laughter though
damientrog: but I still need to deliver some hardcore bugfixes
truff1es: well im almost immune from being jelly so go on
truff1es: then deliver on what client needs ldo
damientrog: I know it's not really a fantastic investment in terms of ROI, more a piece of bitcoin history
truff1es: sure seems like the nerdy/geeky thing to do if u have the funds
damientrog: or a worthless piece of shit in a couple of months
truff1es: im sure u could rework it into something worthwhile
truff1es: like all of those how to make your internet faster tutorials heh
damientrog: that joy will switch to fear and panic trying get the thing working
damientrog: sure, but it doesn't look like it will be like a usb stick you plug in
damientrog: I'll need to mutilate a PSU to power it up
damientrog: I prefer software, you can always undo your fuckups
damientrog: but I'm gonna take a rest see you guys laters
gribble: MtGox lag is 10.6201 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0212825614914 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 239 @ 0.1 = 23.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 250 @ 0.1 = 25 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.105001 = 0.63 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [-]
pgp2: ok... so I've been examing the the gox depth messages... I just watched some guy add and remove thousands of .01 BTC quotes from $1 to $3 in $0.001 price increments, creating a shitload of lag doing it - fucking bullshit - why can't gox police their own fucking exchange!
inhies: and thats how exchanges work
inhies: they dont need to police it
inhies: they need to be able to handle the load
Framedragger: yeah this is so fucking insane. it doesn't sound like blocking / restricting mircotrading is even difficult. wtf
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C245T] 20 @ 0.05099501 = 1.0199 BTC
guruvan: they should charge for that kind of thing - plenty of real world exchanges do charge for cancellation of unfilled ordres
Framedragger: it's probably writtinen in rails all over the place, it could prob be 100 times as efficient :(
Framedragger: also: multiple exchanges / for different kinds of tradings - gox could block micro trades, others would fill the market. supply and demand, bitch
pgp2: yep - ECN's charge for excessive messaging
guruvan: gox should learn from them
Framedragger: the issue prob is that gox admins do not come from that kind of background..
guruvan: no shit they don't - almost no one in bitcoin has come from anything other than a geek background
guruvan: oh yes - in this channel there might be a difference - lol hang out in any of the other ones ;)
guruvan: -assets doesn't lose it when BTC/"USD takes a shit - the freakout in other channels shows the truth
Framedragger: part of the freakout is obvs sarcastic / intended, but yeah still
truff1es: guruvan more circle jerking goes on itc than elsewhere too
guruvan: yeah - thank god for that - I had to leave other chans because I'm too "offtopic"
mod6: was kinda sick earlier this week :/
mod6: omg and it /snowed/ again here yesterday, like wtf!? shit is getting old!
jcpham: he shits frozen water on you
guruvan: hopefully you don't measure your typical snowfall in FEET like we do here mod6 (or meters)
mod6: oh and jcpham, i did get an email about the other 1/2 of my coinabul order shipping yesterday.
mod6: So... apparently that's happening. Will give another update after I receive.
jcpham: coingenuity gonna get bitchslapped
mod6: guruvan: well, typically we get a range. its not like mountain snowfall though. sometimes 1-2" sometimes 8-12"...
guruvan: I don't think I'd buy from them after the troubles I've seen
jcpham: guruvan u may be right
jcpham: i've seen and seen and seen too
guruvan: thank god for that mod6 - here I usually see 2-3 ft each snowfall
truff1es: mjr_1 is that some kind of seduction ?
guruvan: jcpham: not to mention that if he can't fill the order refunds come in fiat, not in the original paid BTC price
mod6: jcpham: ahh, hmm. i placed my orders on the 9th.. my slv one got here pretty quick. but the gld order took until yesterday to ship apparently.
mod6: not sure if the recent physical gld buying frenzy played a roll in that, or if it was the btc bubble pop that played a roll there. but 60 days i guess is my max limit.
jcpham: i placed my order around $250/ per btc
jcpham: which was some time ago
guruvan: hmm. yeah - I think I'll buy elsewhere
guruvan: when it's back to $25 a coin
mod6: My silver order was /pretty/ though.
mod6: So I was pretty happy with that.
mod6: I usually just pay cash at a local place around here, but when it was @ $260/btc ea. I thought, wth, give these guys a shot and see what happens.
guruvan: the BTC makes it so easy to want to do it that way - but. ...I know I certainly offer refunds to people in the currency they paid me (in the same amount as was paid)
mod6: Yeah, if I pay in BTC, I demand to be paid back in BTC.
mircea_popescu: The "encrypt wallet" feature in wxBitcoin and bitcoind 0.4.x before 0.4.1, and 0.5.0rc, does not properly interact with the deletion functionality of BSDDB, which allows context-dependent attackers to obtain unencrypted private keys from Bitcoin wallet files by bypassing the BSDDB interface and reading entries that are marked for deletion.
mircea_popescu: Unspecified vulnerability in bitcoind and Bitcoin-Qt before 0.4.7rc3, 0.5.x before 0.5.6rc3, 0.6.0.x before 0.6.0.9rc1, and 0.6.x before 0.6.3rc1 allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (process hang) via unknown behavior on a Bitcoin network.
guruvan: mod6: IIRC he'll refund in BTC, after converting to the now current exchange rate. :P
mircea_popescu: The alert functionality in bitcoind and Bitcoin-Qt before 0.7.0 supports different character representations of the same signature data, but relies on a hash of this signature, which allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (resource consumption) via a valid modified signature for a circulating alert.
mod6: guruvan: yeah, I'm ok will refunds minus the fees, but not after a conversion to some fiat.
mod6: I'd probably negrate for stuff like that.
mod6: It's like, hey, if I place an order, and something fucks up: i.e. can't get delivery, order is cancelled, I'd expect full refund of BTC, perhaps minus small fee.
mod6: But I value BTC pretty much higher than most other things that I could purchase with it, which is why I don't spend much of it.
mod6: well, aside from the trust level.
mod6: that's always an issue -- too many fucking scammarz.
mod6: but if i want to pay 2.3 magical swords for your warez, and you can't deliver, I expect to get my 2.3 magical swords back.
Framedragger: haha for echo.. sounds like a php kiddie trying to do bash scripting or sth
Framedragger: bitcoin CVEs yeah, it's funny when folks claim there've been no vulnerabilities
mod6: I've been crazy busy though trying to keep up with work and btc-land stuff. I made few line changes to the vwap & depth perl scripts for bitotter last-night. And I've been testing some changes to the trade script (bitotter.pl) for about 2 weeks, just making sure all works good before the next checkin with that.
mod6: As far as the android app, I've been working on the encryption stuff, which has been going ok -- did a bunch of code clean out etc.
mod6: smickles & thestringpuller signed up to help but they're too busy or w/e so I think I'm just back to on-my-own on that one.
mod6: I'm pretty excited because I think I finally am getting some sound changes in there for the encryption piece.
mod6: I looked through the APG and that thing is pretty awesome. But too bad it just can't do what we need for now. It'd be great if another droid app could just call enc() or dec(), shovel it some data and a key id and get back what you need, but it doesn't do that kidna thing yet.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29994 BTC [+]
mod6: So I'm on the roll-your-own type deal for now. Still fun to work on though when I have time.
mod6: Contracts that I'm doing now are pretty much teh sux.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29995 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.308 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3089 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.92 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.1066 = 0.3198 BTC [+]
dub: ThickAsThieves: still buying AM?
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.1099 = 2.198 BTC [+]
mod6: mircea_popescu: that girl making .9 BTC was awesome btw lol
mod6: o and also, many lulz I had reading that one guy from finlands "open diary" or whatever the hell it is..
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 89 @ 0.1099 = 9.7811 BTC [+]
jcpham: he deleted all of my comments that were troll-worthy
jcpham: he means business about his supernode
jcpham: so now after re-reading that thread
jcpham: i think i understand nothing of finnish culture
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.4804 = 7.206 BTC [+]
jcpham: language/ideas/whatever
mod6: that guy looks like Moby
jcpham: now that i realize he is serious i feel confused about my own ideas
jcpham: his thread makes me feel like less of a man
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.1099 = 0.4396 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: @CharlieShrem 55m WOW! 2.5% of ALL #Reddit #Gold was purchased via #Bitcoin Good work #Coinbase
Ukto: It was mostly done months ago.
Ukto: took 20 min to make it usable
jamborambo: so, how low do you think BTC will go this weekend?
Ukto: still have to enable the sorting, and categories
Ukto: $1's for a week I hope. ;) but not likely
pgp2: if it breaks ninety, we could see low 80's, but i think 90 will hold... for now
jamborambo: cool, where can you get those depth charts. are they free?
pgp2: that is a great chart, btw - I look at it all the time
kakobrekla: theres a bunch of charts on differenet sites
pgp2: orkaa has some nice ones
mod6: haha he looks insane with that silver suit on
mircea_popescu: all he needs to do is come out as gay. kinda hoping he will for great drama.
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0135 = 0.135 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 250 @ 0.1 = 25 BTC [-]
mod6: oh and moby apparently gave justin bieber a Casascius coin!?
mod6: why in the world would you give a fuckwit like JB any satoshi at all?
pgp2: here come another slew of thousands of .01 bids < $3....
pgp2: ridiculously manipulative...
pgp2: can't they just shut this guy off...
gribble: MtGox lag is 73.186028 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.14666398068 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
pgp2: I have a pretty good idea of how this scam works on gox...
pgp2: it starts with the price about to break out one way or the other
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] [PAID] 1,795.55981375 BTC to 50`000`000 shares, 3591 satoshi per share
pgp2: the perp gets into the trend with large market order, with a limit order further out to reverse.
pgp2: then stacks the book at the bottom to create lag, giving the impression that hugh market buy orders are coming in...
pgp2: others jump on the band wagon only to execute against his sell order
Framedragger: has anybody tried this kind of thing on gox? it sounds really doable
pgp2: well it's certainly doable, but unethical
Framedragger: one could write up a PoC and send it over to gox saying, 'look you are shit, disable this kind of activity like that: a, b, c"
mircea_popescu: pgp2 let others fucking learn already to give up mommentum trading.
kakobrekla: hey, if camwhores can do it i can too!
davout: kakobrekla are your tits bigger?
pgp2: excellent porn name
pgp2: has a certain... ring to it...
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [-]
pgp2: ATM will be DOA - no market for this yet...
mircea_popescu: pgp2 there'd be a huge market, but it's not something random bloke with fiddy bux can touch
pgp2: agreed - but this solution is too ambitious
pgp2: much easier for wallet company to team up with a bank to allow one way conversion of bitcoin to cash.
pgp2: with existing ATM around the world
mircea_popescu: problem is, bitcoin entrepreneur is a geek. doth not want to go out there and get a deal closed
mircea_popescu: wants to lock up in basement and write moar code nobody reads.
pgp2: the implementation is is too damn complicated - will only appeal to other geeks
Framedragger: um tbh one shouldn't link to cnn's ireport as a credible news source
optimator: mircea_popescu: i think you're projecting... basement... lock up....
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1099 = 0.2198 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00072562 = 6.3492 BTC [+]
optimator: thanks for the link to your architecture post - cool stuff
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8801 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00172 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.1099 = 5.495 BTC [+]
jurov: !ticker btct bitvps
assbot: [BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: 0.001 / 0.00111 / 0.001749 (3539 shares, 3.9 BTC), 7D: 0.00072 / 0.00113 / 0.001887 (3858 shares, 4.4 BTC), 30D: 0.0002 / 0.00113 / 0.00479 (12199 shares, 13.8 BTC)
jurov: ;;calc 1000000*0.001749
jurov: meh. and no dividends
jurov: Marketing Strategy
jurov: We are featured on multiple renown services, such as Slush's Pool and clarkmoody.
jurov: Our main selling channel is by word of mouth from happy clients and bitcoin
jurov: websites listing services accepting Bitcoins.
mircea_popescu: grubles was saying they're making decent dough earlier
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.233 = 0.932 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.23 BTC [-]
Namworld: We technically turn a profit, but we bought servers to colocate. So we're in the red until all expenses are paid off.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller lol. im sure there's gonna be plenty of people doing it
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is like the late roman empire, every time some dood farts there's a new god
mircea_popescu: anyway, who said : "The goys have proven the following theorem..." as the first sentence in his math lecture ?
thestringpuller: Usually the first sentence in my lecture has been "DO THE HOMEWORK." *400 problems assigned go on the screen*
Namworld: All abandon the Bitcoin sinking ship!
jurov: that's like... there was a paper about proposed quantum computer architecture
jurov: that was supposed to compute all possible outcomes in many universes
jurov: and if the result is not correct, destroy the local universe
jurov: how that destroy part would be implemented, was left as "exercise to reader"
mpexbot: thestringpuller: [21:37:49] <gribble> 107.14
assbot: I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs.
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00068342 / 0.00070227 / 0.00072562 (259949 shares, 182.55 BTC), 7D: 0.00064 / 0.00070794 / 0.00076528 (2430366 shares, 1,720.57 BTC), 30D: 0.00063322 / 0.00069982 / 0.00076528 (10115131 shares, 7,078.83 BTC)
jurov: "assume an entire universe can be destroyed in O(1)"... mathematicians, ofc
jurov: coinbr right hand gives and left hand took away (referrals paid out and monthly fees levied)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9199 BTC [+]
dub: the jurov giveth and the jurov taketh away
Namworld: Anyone is holding lots of FTC? I'd like to short the fuck out of em.
dub: well its offical, I am rich
dub: lawyer just emailed, I haz new house
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well the obvious q is when is he getting golden unicorn server for btctalk off the donation funds
jurov: btw, i was just asked how my llc shall be named.. and i realized i dont know
jurov: obviously not coinbr, no such obvious connection shall be shown
jurov: that's too long. maybe Jurov&Ass.Co
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299999 BTC [-]
jurov: why pavlovian? after the dogs?
dub: how about big balls, small balls, any sized balls, ball bearing co
dub: Goxington Heavy Industries LLC
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.305 = 2.61 BTC [+]
jurov: Zhou&Gox Savings and Trust
pgp2: Dewey, Screwem & Howe, LLP
jurov: First Intergalactic
jurov: hahaha... automatically eligible for mpex listing
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 20 @ 0.0017 = 0.034 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 77 @ 0.00167 = 0.1286 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 7 @ 0.003 = 0.021 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 43 @ 0.003 = 0.129 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000656 = 0.0066 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 150 @ 0.000655 = 0.0983 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000654 = 0.0065 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000652 = 0.0065 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000644 = 0.0644 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000643 = 0.0064 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 191 @ 0.000641 = 0.1224 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.0029 = 0.116 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 88 @ 0.00281 = 0.2473 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.002809 = 0.2809 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.0028 = 0.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00266 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 72 @ 0.00262 = 0.1886 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 29 @ 0.00261 = 0.0757 BTC [-]
Framedragger: heh mircea, your dating 4chan site is interesting :D
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 232 @ 0.01022 = 2.371 BTC [-]
jurov: i'll prolly use "Last Financial&Consulting LLC"
jurov: lol First consulting LLC is taken by some bitch, just a month ago
jamborambo: hi guys, who do you think in this room has been into crypto-currency the longest?
jamborambo: okay, i guess that was a lame subject... i'm just bored waiting for the next fall.
jamborambo: i have my 10 coins at $90 USD. you think ill be able to buy them at that price?
inhies: im only here because i found coins i forgot about
jamborambo: are there any other bitcoin IRC channels?
jurov: and i'm only here cuz MP (to show some appreciation on this day)
nanotube: jamborambo: a couple hundred. :P
jurov: nanotube: gribble is on hundreds of channels?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 105.79552, Best ask: 107.40755, Bid-ask spread: 1.61203, Last trade: 107.50000, 24 hour volume: 224799.97878543, 24 hour low: 91.11000, 24 hour high: 126.90000, 24 hour vwap: 106.76789
mircea_popescu: so is rthis true ? did shtylman warn buddies so they bouight out bitcoin ?
nanotube: jurov: well no, gribble is only on several dozen. :)
ThickAsThieves: and I thought he also allowed cash withdraws after halting
mircea_popescu: people have gotten into this VERY nasty habit of pushing the truth
ThickAsThieves: and some people here hold him in high esteem as aperson
ThickAsThieves: coincidentally i think the BTC/USD price was like exactly what is today when he closed
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 108.00001, Best ask: 108.95572, Bid-ask spread: 0.95571, Last trade: 108.00001, 24 hour volume: 225231.59405501, 24 hour low: 91.11000, 24 hour high: 126.90000, 24 hour vwap: 106.74646
benkay: can we give gox a reprive also?
benkay: let them kick around in the market a bit longer
ThickAsThieves: just get into the API and bot up a few thousand fake orders
benkay: however it's spelled, i would like to take more advantage of them
benkay: man also this atm crap
benkay: would love to hear about how these people plan to comply with aml/kyc
jurov: exactly same as cash ATM?
gribble: (bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
gribble: There are currently 997413.16 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.1 USD, worth 16217440.6469 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0105 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.92 = 3.84 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: >Today the registration system will be opened, and I will be able to post a list of the delegates. If they want to stay anonymous, pseudonymous or the like, I will only post what I am allowed to. I will also disclose their principals. (You know, a delegate has to file a letter of attorney for every organization (s)he represents, to be considered a legal representative. Unless (s)he just represents him/herself.)
jcpham: please go mircea_popescu
jcpham: invite the tiberius guy too
mircea_popescu: or take a modelling agency along and just bother the geeks
jcpham: find out who's for real and fake for us
jcpham: a few minutes face to face should suffice
mircea_popescu: "Lastly, I have found it best to ignore the arrogant MP and his supposed PR person as they think they are so much better than rest of us. I have rarely seen him have anything positive to say about anything positive on this forum. If it's something that is already disparaging then he/she/they/it can usually jump on the band wagon in a positive way."
jcpham: if you arrived at my summit with a clan of ladies we'd take a break from the summit
jurov: volodya putin has it much closer
jurov: can prolly stage submarine accident
mircea_popescu: you know, it'd be almost worth it to become tyrant simply to make a special reservation of "nice people"
jurov: SPRINGFIELD, MO, – May 2, 2013 – AMC today that it has declared a special dividend of .0000001 per share for it members.
jurov: ^^ bitfunder frontpage lulz
jurov: accidentally dividend
gribble: target: 100-104 | updated by OneFixt at May 2 2013, 22:15 UTC ( tips:
http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer:
http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 1 hour, 21 minutes, and 16 seconds ago
ThickAsThieves: I'm interested to see how AM decides to handle this selling of USB miners
ThickAsThieves: only practical method I can think of is to have a flat price and first come, first served
kakobrekla: those are made to rub it in bfls face?
ThickAsThieves: but they will get legions of poor people crying if they dont sell singles
mircea_popescu: notice that they only got the move on them once bfl actually started delivering
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure they were going to match whatever product bfl was shipping, if they started with singles same deal.
mircea_popescu: also rikur promises to make further timetables and other proofs.
mircea_popescu: i kinda like it when people feel that a simple "dude, i suck, you're so much better than me" is not quite adequate
mircea_popescu: so they proceed to spell it out over thousands of words, add drawings...
mircea_popescu: really give out their time and energy to make the point.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.47110001 = 0.9422 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.46990001 = 0.9398 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.92 = 5.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.92 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15847 @ 0.00071634 = 11.3518 BTC [-]