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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00071634 = 4.7995 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: Look at HIM go up
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.30469 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3047 = 2.6094 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.30496 = 3.9149 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.30497 = 5.2199 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.305 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.308888 = 11.78 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 2000 @ 0.00172499 = 3.45 BTC [-]
taub: http://www.scribd.com/doc/139160091/Coinlab-v-Mt-Gox
taub: is this legit?
kakobrekla: lol
taub: i dont even know what coinlab does
taub: nothing as of yet it seems
toffoo: ouch .. looks pretty legit to me. troubles in paradise.
parseval: I'd rather keep MtGox than be forced to use a new inexperienced startup instead
thestringpuller: !ticker m S.BBET
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00172499 / 0.00172499 / 0.00172499 (6000 shares, 10.35 BTC), 7D: 0.00099999 / 0.00147326 / 0.00199994 (141310 shares, 208.19 BTC), 30D: 0.00079521 / 0.00158698 / 0.00199999 (253652 shares, 402.54 BTC)
kakobrekla: a friend of mine is waiting 100btc withdrawal from a aml verified account for 3 weeks now from gox
thestringpuller: so is Gox confirmed fractional reserve?
toffoo: that'll teach them to jump into bed with any new American start-up partners: no traction in 1 month = LAWSUIT! "talk to our lawyers" --'mericans
taub: tux is a bumbling idiot
taub: dont think anyone will do business with him, gox will die
taub: all you have to do is be trusted, and have lower fees
taub: and better software, and it's almost impossible to be worse
thestringpuller: taub: CampBX and other exchanges are already that
thestringpuller: why is no one moving money?
taub: liquidity I guess
taub: campbx isn't that much cheaper either
thestringpuller: taub: they've never been hacked
taub: yea but they don't have a big advantage over mtgox
taub: and they lack liquidity
thestringpuller: because big movers are trading on gox
taub: if i were to start an exchagne i'd run i at 0% for a month
thestringpuller: tell campbx that
thestringpuller: I live next to them
taub: or as long as it takes to become top 5 exchange
thestringpuller: literally
thestringpuller: if you really think this stuff will work I can pass the message directly
taub: they also have to revamp their site, it looks horrendous
taub: iframes, really?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3089 BTC [+]
taub: well I imagine they don't make much money now, so if they think about forgoing fees as a marketing expenditure
Framedragger: i actually miss bitcoinica's type of web interface..
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00071634 = 5.0502 BTC [-]
taub: part why btc24 was so popular was because the 0% fee policy
taub: maybe not a good long term business model, but a way to draw attention sure
thestringpuller: well then taub I don't know what to tell
ThickAsThieves: did you guys see the gox/coinlab thing?
thestringpuller: MtGox has monopoly
thestringpuller: by laziness
ThickAsThieves: ;;title http://gawker.com/massive-bitcoin-business-partnership-devolves-into-75-487857656
gribble: That URL appears to have no HTML title.
taub: yep seen it
thestringpuller: Isn't gox about to be shutdown?
thestringpuller: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
ThickAsThieves: why would gox be shut down
Bugpowder: coinlab
Bugpowder: lol
Bugpowder: what fucking scammers
ThickAsThieves: thats what i was thinking
ThickAsThieves: probly their intention all along
Bugpowder: I fucking called this day one
ThickAsThieves: "he we can always sue em""
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.31979 = 0.6396 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31979 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.31979 = 0.6396 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: and now people are boo-hooing in bit-anal
Ukto: heh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3198 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.31989998 = 0.6398 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.31989999 = 0.6398 BTC [+]
Ukto: sounds like coinlab made an epic fail once again, and is trying to pin it on gox to extort them.
ThickAsThieves: yep
taub: why?
taub: the lawsuit sure makes it sound like they have some valid complaints
ThickAsThieves: does it mention dates that gox committed to and missed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.31979 = 0.9594 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: and whther ther contract had stipulations for what to do in that event?
ThickAsThieves: id coinlab meet their own obligations?
ThickAsThieves: d
thestringpuller: ;;later tell mircea_popescu apparently http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-966426 is false
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ThickAsThieves: of course thats false, we all knew that
error4733: is false ?
error4733: wtf i sold all :/
ThickAsThieves: i assume yer joking
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4711 = 0.9422 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: taub of course it does
Bugpowder: IANAL but my wife is
Bugpowder: I haven't asked her, but I suspect this suit will be dismissed immediately in summary judgement
Bugpowder: LOL CoinLaboffered its credibility, market insights, relationships with established banks and investors, and intellectual property and agreed to manage and market the exchange services in North America
Bugpowder: What credibility?
ThickAsThieves: this whle thing makes the bitcoind foundation look silly too
Bugpowder: I will ask my wife about this
dub: man
dub: this is some funny
dub: Mark currently serves as CEO of Mt.Gox, one of the oldest Bitcoin businesses in operation today. He is the mastermind who created the current trade engine and the multi-currency platform for Mt.Gox.
OneFixt: Bugpowder: awesome, please let us know and ping me =)
Bugpowder: Also sent to a friend at Durie Tangri
tiberiusiv: what happend to coinlab
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.31987 = 0.6397 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Scam
ThickAsThieves: they got sad that gox wised up
tiberiusiv: explain thickasthieves
Bugpowder: They ran out of money and figured suing Gox was less painful than a down round
ThickAsThieves: http://gawker.com/massive-bitcoin-business-partnership-devolves-into-75-487857656
tiberiusiv: peter vessennes had shady eyes
Bugpowder: what a bunch of dipshit
Bugpowder: wear a fucking suit if you are going to handle $100M, OK
tiberiusiv: the eyes always give it away
tiberiusiv: bugpowder ?
Bugpowder: it was more than the eyes, it was the clothes, the typos on the website, etc etc
Bugpowder: probably blew a quarter of the funding up his nose
tiberiusiv: lol
tiberiusiv: he had a walmart suit on like mircea
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.308888 BTC [-]
tiberiusiv: doing 100mil deals but cant spend the 1500 for a tailored suit.
tiberiusiv: voorhees paid out quite a huge dividend
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31989999 BTC [+]
taub: where is Peter
Bugpowder: tiberiusiv: What is relevant is the satoshi per share
Bugpowder: many more shares on MPEX than a few months ago
OneFixt: staaaaahap fufck
OneFixt: lol
Bugpowder: IIRC the original photo in the CoinLab announcement story was him and the other guy at a club
OneFixt: wrong channel ;)
Bugpowder: hmmm
Bugpowder: I think I should pull my $81 bid
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [+]
OneFixt: looks like a bounce off the 97 support
Bugpowder: we are going to fucking tank
tiberiusiv: i dont think so
tiberiusiv: there really isnt much coins on the ask size
tiberiusiv: bad news always comes out AFTER the market already tanked
tiberiusiv: remember we are down alot from $266
Bugpowder: tiberiusiv: the ask side coins are at an all time high, what are you smoking?
Bugpowder: http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png
tiberiusiv: theres like nothing up until 140-150
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.26 BTC [+]
tiberiusiv: also that relationship is usually reverse
Bugpowder: well I moved my 82 bid down to 76
tiberiusiv: look at bid size
tiberiusiv: at the 200's
tiberiusiv: it was at record too
ThickAsThieves: gox login is not responding for me
Bugpowder: AsK size
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.26167 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: ThickAsThieves: mtgox.com/login
Bugpowder: that works
tiberiusiv: ;;bids 50
Bugpowder: tiberiusiv: I think you might be colorblind
gribble: There are currently 140374.12 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 9953163.58318 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0060 seconds
ThickAsThieves: you rock thx
tiberiusiv: ;;asks 200
gribble: There are currently 130084.86 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 19759880.577 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.0111 seconds
Bugpowder: This one is going to be VIOLENT
ThickAsThieves: ythink?
Bugpowder: also, no new cash in gox till Tuesday due to bank holiday.
tiberiusiv: order books arent really that great predictors
tiberiusiv: huge bad news usually signals a bottom imo
tiberiusiv: high level of negativity
ThickAsThieves: orderbooks are just one more datapoint
tiberiusiv: yes
ThickAsThieves: whoa
ThickAsThieves: whoa
ThickAsThieves: tib agreed with me
ThickAsThieves: i deserve a cookie
Bugpowder: Just wait till 6 confirms
tiberiusiv: i see barely any coins even up to 110
tiberiusiv: lol bugpowder
Bugpowder: Seriously
Bugpowder: this news hit reddit 1 hour ago
tiberiusiv: shit like that is already priced in
tiberiusiv: lol 1 hour is so old
Bugpowder: no its really not
ThickAsThieves: tib theres something you are not considering
Bugpowder: it takes 1 hour to get fresh coins onto gox
tiberiusiv: what news ?
Bugpowder: the lawsuit
ThickAsThieves: when speculators see a reason to go in one direction
tiberiusiv: bugpowder right but others would have already pulled their bids.
ThickAsThieves: they love to go all in
ThickAsThieves: in the direction
Bugpowder: tiberiusiv: I moved mine down
ThickAsThieves: panic
tiberiusiv: in anticipation of the so called new coins selling
ThickAsThieves: etc
tiberiusiv: bugpowder case and point.
tiberiusiv: its already priced in.
ThickAsThieves: we'll see i guess
tiberiusiv: the move already occured.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [-]
tiberiusiv: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
Bugpowder: tiberiusiv: thats how it looks when people are market selling in the crahs
tiberiusiv: where do you see huge asks building?
tiberiusiv: the market has already reacted to the news
Bugpowder: let me show you a screenshot
tiberiusiv: if the price goes down its because of overall negativity vs some irrelevant news event
Bugpowder: This is what it looks like when you are about to hit the bottom.
Bugpowder: http://i.imgur.com/2cJLOTO.png
tiberiusiv: it looks like that now
Bugpowder: no it doesn;t
Bugpowder: not YET
tiberiusiv: and that was massive capitulation
tiberiusiv: events like that are VERY rare
tiberiusiv: they usually occur after major run ups
tiberiusiv: bottoms like that
Bugpowder: Anyway we will see
Bugpowder: no point in arguing about it.
tiberiusiv: ok
tiberiusiv: why does vassenes matter anyway
ThickAsThieves: tib it can easily be argued that we are at the end of bubble just like the last one
ThickAsThieves: only more compressed
ThickAsThieves: but we can still bottom lower
ThickAsThieves: than 92
ThickAsThieves: or whatever
Bugpowder: THe contract
Bugpowder: http://www.scribd.com/doc/139181173/Contract-between-Mt-Gox-and-Coinlab
ThickAsThieves: nice
ThickAsThieves: much more interesting than the lawsuit doc surely
tiberiusiv: i really doubt 50 is ever seen again in bitcoin
tiberiusiv: outside of a actual systematic failure
tiberiusiv: where it goes to 0
tiberiusiv: i dont think the price goes anywhere which is what i said 2 weeks ago
ThickAsThieves: maybe not 50
ThickAsThieves: but 60s
ThickAsThieves: there is a massive one-man support floor at 70
maximian: Peter Vessenes: "I want to do what's right for bitcoin!" <launches $75M lawsuit against largest exchange>
tiberiusiv: why didnt mtgox follow through
ThickAsThieves: which this whole bubble is propped up on
tiberiusiv: mtgox dotn have 75mil to pay lol
ThickAsThieves: they wont need to pay
tiberiusiv: obviously
tiberiusiv: that case wont last in a US court
ThickAsThieves: CL just wants a settlement to go awaya
tiberiusiv: but why did they break contract
ThickAsThieves: maybe Gox feels CL broke
ThickAsThieves: and rather than suing simply said fuck it
tiberiusiv: ive always stated nerds are horrible horrible people
tiberiusiv: that should stay away from business
tiberiusiv: and stick to coding and other mundane tasks
tiberiusiv: they just have 0 integrity and always a chip on their shoulders
tiberiusiv: wonder where he came up with 75mil
tiberiusiv: mtgox isnt even worth that
ThickAsThieves: Coinlab makes some pretty risky revenue commitments in here
tiberiusiv: 310k a year?
maximian: yeah $75 is outrageous, but that's usual when filing a claim
dub: tux is french
ThickAsThieves: ot 110% of actual
ThickAsThieves: or*
ThickAsThieves: whichever is greater
dub: he probbly just couldnt be bothered
tiberiusiv: um those revenue commitments are tiny
tiberiusiv: cavirtex could meet year 10
ThickAsThieves: like i said
dub: too busy eating garlic and chasing hairy women
ThickAsThieves: or 110% of actual rev
ThickAsThieves: whichever is greater
tiberiusiv: thickasthieves can you read?
tiberiusiv: 110% of the previous year.
ThickAsThieves: that means they cant have two bad years
tiberiusiv: he has to grow minimum 10% a year
ThickAsThieves: at any revenue total
ThickAsThieves: also K.
tiberiusiv: revenue is NOT profit.
tiberiusiv: be quiet
ThickAsThieves: $50m damage limit
tiberiusiv: those revenue projections are very very low
tiberiusiv: a betting parlor in a 50k population town can do 30k a month
ThickAsThieves: so you'd sign a contract that required you to make 110% every year for 10 years?
tiberiusiv: 10%.
tiberiusiv: not 110%
ThickAsThieves: ugh
tiberiusiv: can you learn to read?
ThickAsThieves: you know what i meant
ThickAsThieves: you had to go and turn into a fuckface again
tiberiusiv: yea i would
tiberiusiv: the MINIMUM is so low
tiberiusiv: 310k year 1, 341k year 2
tiberiusiv: if the 110% is GREATER that means that one applies.
tiberiusiv: those minimums are so damn low
ThickAsThieves: the minimum is raised to actual revenue
tiberiusiv: dude shut up
ThickAsThieves: ignored
tiberiusiv: the minimum is 341.
tiberiusiv: on year 2
tiberiusiv: if the 110% is higher that one applies
tiberiusiv: but the absolute MIN is 341
tiberiusiv: no wonder you are poor lol
tiberiusiv: cant read a basic document
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.3088 = 3.9264 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 1.308888 = 14.3978 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.309 = 3.927 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 1.309999 = 17.03 BTC [+]
tiberiusiv: bugpowder: markets dont really respond to external events other then for very short time periods
Namworld: I think I'm going to start buying options, if anyone wants to sell either call or puts. Seems the MPEx bot is asking for way too much.
dub: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 27346002 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 15756343.4933 USD in total. | Data vintage: 102.9880 seconds
tiberiusiv: lol namworld
tiberiusiv: ;;asks 1000
gribble: There are currently 182080.75 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 35457841.568 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0105 seconds
ThickAsThieves: Nam I have a few misc Puts up for sale, at 143 and 161
ThickAsThieves: nothing major
ThickAsThieves: but probly cheaper than bot
tiberiusiv: thickasthieves how do you plan on paying out
tiberiusiv: when you are short selling put options
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.47997 = 1.4399 BTC [+]
Namworld: myeah, your puts are still way too expensive
ThickAsThieves: soz
Namworld: like the best calls have breakeven points over 140 USD/BTC and best puts have breakeven points under 77 USD/BTC
Namworld: Too expensive to me
taub: the risk/reward in writing the options is really bad :s
taub: mp basically turned off his bot
taub: don't blame him, really
Namworld: at the rate currently asked, the risk/reward is really good...
Namworld: In my opinion
taub: oh! okay yea
Namworld: Prior to that, it was bad...
taub: but like betting 1btc to maybe make 0.1 on some options
Namworld: maybe there's a better inbetween to be found...
taub: i guess it can work, but the model he has running isn't very good
ThickAsThieves: i agree Nam, I think the bot algo could be fine tuned
ThickAsThieves: it leaves money on the table to be as timid as it is
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.48 = 4.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: but we are biased too
ThickAsThieves: what kind of breakeven are you looking for on calls?
Namworld: sheesh... not sure I'd want any calls right now...
ThickAsThieves: oh you mentioned calls earlier
Namworld: yeah, if there was a really good deal...
Namworld: I might bite
ThickAsThieves: the month is young
Bugpowder: See,… the bitcoin ATM guy knew enough to wear a suit.
Bugpowder: https://twitter.com/JamesGMorgan/status/330067324210135040/photo/1
joecool: not like MT sitting on inflatable balls like a seal or smthn
joecool: polo/jeans
joecool: with pizza sauce all up in it
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3 = 2.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.3199 = 3.9597 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.23501 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.235 = 0.47 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.23 = 1.15 BTC [-]
tiberiusiv: waiting on that sell off bugpowder
Bugpowder: :)
tiberiusiv: its been more then 1hour
tiberiusiv: 6 confirms
tiberiusiv: if markets worked like that everyone would be rich
ThickAsThieves: 4 confs btw
ThickAsThieves: i sent btc to gox
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 40 @ 0.00339 = 0.1356 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: so there's your time reference in confs
tiberiusiv: the market reaction already occured to the news
tiberiusiv: and nothong happend lol
Bugpowder: wife says CoinLab's general counsel is a pretty famous and good contingency firm
tiberiusiv: theres absolutely 0 emperical evidence that news drives markets
tiberiusiv: only amateurs believe news matters
Bugpowder: And there is no way to clearly evaluate it this early in the process
tiberiusiv: yes there is.
tiberiusiv: we have 300 years of markets
ThickAsThieves: did she also see the contract
tiberiusiv: im trying to dig you up the website
tiberiusiv: i want you to read
tiberiusiv: but i cant find it
testypesty: yeah, so if paypal & ebay announced in the news today it's taking on BTC, that wouldnt matter?
tiberiusiv: its like a 3min video disproving
tiberiusiv: testypesty: nope.
tiberiusiv: btc would still not surpass 266.
tiberiusiv: hence why paypal ceo talked about bitcoin but the price is 30% lower then when he spoke.
testypesty: why 266?
tiberiusiv: if crowd psycology is heading towards a direction
tiberiusiv: nothing else matters
tiberiusiv: all that would occur would be a short term spike
Bugpowder: Yes she saw it
tiberiusiv: IF the general trend is down its down.
ThickAsThieves: is it difficult to get an international suit like this to work?
ThickAsThieves: or can gox just kick it around
tiberiusiv: no its easy
tiberiusiv: gox is in a AAA jurisdiction
tiberiusiv: if you were in romania you can ignore it
tiberiusiv: hence why mircea is there
tiberiusiv: mircea isnt stupid. he sits in an area where hes 100% sheltered
tiberiusiv: mtgox is not sheltered in japan especially when their assets are in US banks
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.31899 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: Mircera is going to have a blogasm when he wakes up
tiberiusiv: mtgox will not be liable for 75 million
tiberiusiv: maybe $2500
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.10899 = 1.0899 BTC [-]
tiberiusiv: i mean where does vessennes even get that 75mil number from
tiberiusiv: coinlab is worth 75 dollars
inhies: man
inhies: screw bitcoin
inhies: its iron man night
mod6: u no like cheap prices?
inhies: cheap?
inhies: its been cheap for months
tiberiusiv: mod6 dont be a cheerleader
inhies: JUST YOU WAIT
mod6: keke
tiberiusiv: theres nothing cheap about bitcoin @ 100
inhies: tiberiusiv: mod6 just bought in so she's trying to drum the price back up to at least break even
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.014 = 0.14 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 90 @ 0.014 = 1.26 BTC [+]
tiberiusiv: lol inhies
tiberiusiv: exactly
dub: I read inhies ans inhales
ThickAsThieves: yeah, whats an inhies?
tiberiusiv: mod6 is a woman?
inhies: inheis is an inh
inhies: with an ies on the end
inhies: kind of like pants and panties
tiberiusiv: a woman in here is rarer then thickasthieves having money
inhies: ...or something
inhies: i guess im trying to say, im panties
inhies: im inh on otc, as soon as i dig that keypair off my old hdd :3
inhies: until then, dont beleive a word i say
taub: ;;bids 70
gribble: There are currently 88672.613 bitcoins demanded at or over 70.0 USD, worth 7038561.94509 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0060 seconds
dub: ;;getrating inh
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User inh, rated since Thu May 12 17:15:32 2011. Cumulative rating 19, from 11 total ratings. Received ratings: 10 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 10 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=inh
tiberiusiv: coinlab failing is excellent news for bitcoin
tiberiusiv: bullish event imo
tiberiusiv: peter vessennes and co are permanently out of the picture now
taub: its not like they've been relevant anyway
tiberiusiv: i know
dub: don't you have to do somethign first in order to fail?
taub: lol yes
dub: what did they fail at? nothing
tiberiusiv: yea but now hes completely out
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 15 @ 0.185 = 2.775 BTC [+]
taub: right
tiberiusiv: his reputation will be too damaged
tiberiusiv: for anyone to do business with him in the future
dub: maybe pretending to have an HPC/mining platform
tiberiusiv: and damage btc infrastructure
dub: they didn't fail at that though
assbot: [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 4 @ 0.4 = 1.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23852 @ 0.00071785 = 17.1222 BTC [+]
tiberiusiv: why dont mining pools begin investing into their own BTC client
tiberiusiv: like to make the client compatible with the btc network it just has to follow the same rules right?
tiberiusiv: that nerd crew has to go
dub: +1
dub: no real incentive for pools to get involved though
jcpham: everyone should join my club
jcpham: the bitcoin miners union
dub: the jesus christ pham?
jcpham: we'll do stuff
jcpham: btcmu.org
jcpham: except we have to make it
tiberiusiv: vessennes gavin
tiberiusiv: have to go
jcpham: or i'll sell you the domain and you do it
jcpham: whatever
dub: gavin is ok imo, just needs to be stronger an dignore the other fuckwits
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 26 @ 0.01442 = 0.3749 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.01498 = 1.498 BTC [+]
tiberiusiv: what about garzik
jcpham: i'm inviting btcguild first
dub: he tried to sort the dev shop out but got beaten down by the 'community'
jcpham: btcmu.org is not opposed to forking the blockchain
jcpham: for funa nd profit
tiberiusiv: vessennes is finished anyway though
Bugpowder: bitcoin foundation board meetings are gonna be FUN
dub: the foundation is a joke
jcpham: haha
tiberiusiv: hanging around at a star trek convention?
tiberiusiv: since the foundation has no actual capital
tiberiusiv: they cant really do much
Bugpowder: they got that 10000BTC donation from gox
Bugpowder: Peter should have spent that too
tiberiusiv: lol
Bugpowder: where is mah crash?
Bugpowder: Still think we will see 70-80 this weekend
tiberiusiv: you are an amateur bugpowder
Bugpowder: but I guess a violent sell off is not in the cards
tiberiusiv: those levels are possible
tiberiusiv: but it wont be becuase of mtgox lawsuit
Bugpowder: I am a ameture but have made much more on bitcoin than you ;)
tiberiusiv: i doubt it.
Bugpowder: that's your ego talking, not your head
tiberiusiv: bugpowder in 12months from now youll have given back most of your gains
Bugpowder: o really?
tiberiusiv: yep
Bugpowder: how?
jcpham: i like how coinlab has this emotional pr release and mtgox releases a one-liner
Bugpowder: I am out of coins!
tiberiusiv: seen so many guys like you in trading
tiberiusiv: its not even funny
Bugpowder: Gotta pay my taxes
Bugpowder: l8r
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31989999 BTC [+]
Framedragger: oh fuck it's may, i've to pay taxes in a week as well :(
ThickAsThieves: ok 6 confs
ThickAsThieves: price dipping
Bugpowder: i'm baaaaaaccckkkk
Bugpowder: There it is tiberiusiv
tiberiusiv: thats like 4 hours later man
tiberiusiv: confirms dont take that long lol
Bugpowder: well
ThickAsThieves: so where do you think the bottoms will be?
Bugpowder: sometimes they delay in heavy volume
Bugpowder: It has taken me 30 confirms before
ThickAsThieves: 81ish?
Bugpowder: My first bid is at 81
Bugpowder: then 76, 71 and 53
truff1es: ;;seen bowjob
gribble: bowjob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 5 hours, and 13 seconds ago: <bowjob> lol
tiberiusiv: ;;asks 120
gribble: There are currently 16741.418 bitcoins offered at or under 120.0 USD, worth 1870631.70231 USD in total. | Data vintage: 57.2346 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.48964 = 2.9378 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.48965 = 1.469 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.4896999 = 4.4073 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.3 = 6.5 BTC [-]
tiberiusiv: ;;bids 85
gribble: There are currently 13577.623 bitcoins demanded at or over 85.0 USD, worth 1190565.26875 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.2072 seconds
tiberiusiv: not much of a sell off bugpowder
tiberiusiv: same levels 12 hours ago
Bugpowder: there is a ripple on every drop.
Bugpowder: this isn't over yet
tiberiusiv: right
Bugpowder: call me in the morning
tiberiusiv: so despite that news
tiberiusiv: why are we at the same level as 12hrs ago
Bugpowder: lets see where we are in 12 hours from now.
tiberiusiv: ok
tiberiusiv: it has nothing to do with the news.
tiberiusiv: even if you rationalized trying to explain away price movements with news
tiberiusiv: what does peter vesseenes have anything to do with anything lol
tiberiusiv: is he selling a massive bitcoin stash?
Bugpowder: people are sheep
Bugpowder: 1) we were already deep in a downtrend
jcpham: i'm queuing up buy rockets
jcpham: like Bugpowder said
Bugpowder: 2) Ask / Bid is super high and rising
Bugpowder: 3) 4 day bank holiday in japan, so no new cash
Bugpowder: market was already fragile.
Bugpowder: This news is going to have a very negative impact in the short term (now till Tues)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.3 = 7.8 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: Also 4) The law firm CoinLab got is famous and good
Bugpowder: and does contingency
Bugpowder: which means they expect an EV+ settlement
Bugpowder: because they probably aren't getting paid by the hour
Bugpowder: Does take much to scare bit coiners. and with good reason. shit is always blowing up!
Bugpowder: not*
tiberiusiv: most of the sheep have already exited
Bugpowder: we will see
dub: ;;ticker --vol
gribble: 253895.71075196
jcpham: yeah i thin coinlab has a fairly solid contract
jcpham: gox got set up good
Bugpowder: Gox should just settle for 2M and be done with it.
Bugpowder: 1M if they can get away with it.
ThickAsThieves: that may have been their thought if/when they breached
ThickAsThieves: maybe even legal counsel said
parseval: I wonder if they'll be looking for a new partner
jcpham: yeah i mean if they stonewalled the contract they retained counsel long ago
jcpham: and it'll be like they have logs of coinlab ddosing them
jcpham: and all that
jcpham: no telling how far down the rabbit hole it goes
tiberiusiv: why would mtgox settle
tiberiusiv: they didnt do anything
jcpham: everyone already wants a new exchange anyways
jcpham: the non action is what the lawsuit is about
jcpham: compelling action
tiberiusiv: coinlab doesnt have ddos power lol
dub: http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-966926
dub: lol
jcpham: remember all those problems mtgox has been having during the "transition"
jcpham: what if mtgox blames coinlab
ThickAsThieves: lol, i wonder how long before CNN cancels iReport as a service
ThickAsThieves: its obv stupid
ThickAsThieves: very bad branding
ThickAsThieves: https://www.khanacademy.org/science/core-finance/money-and-banking/bitcoin/v/bitcoin-overview
dub: I wtf'ed when BFL made the user blog and all kinds of even crazier shit than josh comes out with started showing up
tiberiusiv: im still waiting for your sell off bugpowder
dub: that CNN has the same 'feature' is pretty lulzy
tiberiusiv: in how many hours should i return
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C125T] 13 @ 0.21816684 = 2.8362 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00071634 = 9.8855 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: coinlab sues gox, lulz
pgp: huh?
jcpham: hey you guys want to doa bitbet somehow on this
Chaang-Noi: why did they ever think gox would be honest, ver still lost his 22,000 bitcoinica coin, hahaha tears
jcpham: the mtgox/coinlab thing
jcpham: trying to think of way to bet it
pgp: what news there?
Chaang-Noi: people trsuting gox in 2013, hahahhaha dumbasses
ThickAsThieves: http://gawker.com/massive-bitcoin-business-partnership-devolves-into-75-487857656
ThickAsThieves: http://www.scribd.com/doc/139181173/Contract-between-Mt-Gox-and-Coinlab
ThickAsThieves: pgp ^
jcpham: i think that initial paragraph on dmages may be 75k
Chaang-Noi: its not
jcpham: there's some talk about that usually representing a certain fee (iana)
Chaang-Noi: its 75million but the contract says make is 50 million so its silly anway
Chaang-Noi: this is just about trying to get gox to do what they said they wont, and if they wont shame them
jcpham: well the 50 million is the realized everything
jcpham: they lay that out
Chaang-Noi: this is the big boys scammer tag
pgp: wow... that's some news...
jcpham: i wholeheartly agree with bugpowder and some of the others about coinlab being disorganized and poorly realized
jcpham: fwiw
Chaang-Noi: yeah but still gox cant just sell something and then go, nevermind
jcpham: they've never delivered and their credibility is laughable
dub: both parties are retarded
Chaang-Noi: this
Chaang-Noi: both parties are fucking retarded
pgp: of course... like everyone else
tiberiusiv: nerds should be sent to concentration camps
dub: the court should throw it out on the basis that there were no valid signing parties
jcpham: hurrrr
Chaang-Noi: tiberslav!
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.3 = 5.2 BTC [-]
tiberiusiv: there werent any dub
tiberiusiv: 2 idiots printed a contract off of the internet
tiberiusiv: and signed it
tiberiusiv: then made a website talking about it coinlab
dub: you need to be a) over 18, b) not drunk or high c) not retarded to sign a contract legally
tiberiusiv: well vessennes is retarded lol
ThickAsThieves: and the contract cant be for a fictional asset
dub: tux is clearly retarded
ThickAsThieves: wtf is a bitcoin
tiberiusiv: it wasnt for bitcoins thickasthieves
tiberiusiv: always chiming in with the low IQ opinion
tiberiusiv: vessennes can probably be classified as having a mild case of downs syndrome
jcpham: if you think about it
tiberiusiv: and magictux a severe case of mental retardation
jcpham: put your tinfoil hat on for a sec
tiberiusiv: or not
jcpham: coinlab mined blocks
dub: implying I take it off
jcpham: pulled the VC pumped and dump
jcpham: underpaid miners in fiat
dub: what did coinlab mine with?
jcpham: and exited with lawsuit
tiberiusiv: jcpham yea you are dumb
dub: a fucking retarded idea about robbing the parents of gamers?
jcpham: it's brilliant
tiberiusiv: LOL dub
tiberiusiv: thats something vessennes would come up with
dub: did they ever actually launch anything?
jcpham: maybe a little bit but not really
tiberiusiv: how could vessennes mine anything when he was a broke piker?
dub: tiberiusiv: that was the model afaict
tiberiusiv: vesseennes made a website
tiberiusiv: and walked into some tiny ass bank
dub: tiberiusiv: get gamers (who are retarded) to download a mining client that gave them free game tokens and wow gold
tiberiusiv: talked to a teller about becoming a partner
jcpham: there was talked about different work units and different lcients on different gpus
jcpham: live an nvidia client for scientific work
Chaang-Noi: dub that was gpumoneys idea first
dub: 90% of their target userbase would last exactly one month, until the parents took away the naighty childrens puter
Chaang-Noi: lol
tiberiusiv: bitcoin foundation will fall apart now
Chaang-Noi: uni dorm
tiberiusiv: since its wealthiest member leaves lol
Chaang-Noi: yeah bitcoin foundation pervz suing bitcoin foundation pervz
Chaang-Noi: who is leaving?
ThickAsThieves: who ever didnt fart
jcpham: i'm getting eligius in on the foundation
ThickAsThieves: whomever
jcpham: for the ultimate in anarchy
Chaang-Noi: lol luke jr should be
jcpham: you guys need to back my miners union now
Chaang-Noi: and d3
jcpham: while the board seats are still unfilled
dub: get nefario in on this
Chaang-Noi: ha
Chaang-Noi: and pirate
jcpham: eligius is a charter pool in the bitcoin miners union
Chaang-Noi: and bruce :)
jcpham: i want btcguild next
jcpham: shhh
tiberiusiv: huge bullish event for bitcoin
tiberiusiv: vessennes is finished even if he wins his lawsuit
tiberiusiv: 2 clowns suffer reputation damage
tiberiusiv: = bullish for BTC
dub: ideally, but I doubt he's going to walk away
Chaang-Noi: i almost hope someone from google or paypal comes in a makes a decent exchange...
dub: ideally this whole deal gets ugly as fuck and we end up with no foundation and no mtgox
Chaang-Noi: that is the dream
Chaang-Noi: but i doubt it will happen
dub: that is best case
tiberiusiv: it will happend chang
tiberiusiv: mtgox will be at 20-30% marketcap within 12months anyway
Chaang-Noi: marketshare
Chaang-Noi: and they claim 80% but that is bullshit
Chaang-Noi: so much is otc
tiberiusiv: they dont claim otc share
tiberiusiv: and no it isnt.
Chaang-Noi: like real trades are otc, mt gox is just day traders
tiberiusiv: most otc transactions are little children doing 0.01 btcs
tiberiusiv: between themselves
tiberiusiv: chaang noi lol right
Chaang-Noi: iv done about a million dollars in the last month
tiberiusiv: look at the bitcoin otc book
Chaang-Noi: i dont mean that otc
tiberiusiv: sure you have
Chaang-Noi: i mean people trading with each other outside
Chaang-Noi: lol tiberslav
tiberiusiv: 1mil in 30 days
tiberiusiv: thats like what 2% of all exchange trade?
tiberiusiv: even less
Chaang-Noi: all of it was person to person trades not using an exchange
Chaang-Noi: and no, some days we got like 20 million vol on just gox
Chaang-Noi: hell i even got that finish guy to wire me 100k usd :)
Chaang-Noi: tiberslav where have you been? had you been here you would know more about this...
dub: you got it?
Chaang-Noi: not yet, but he has confirmed it
Chaang-Noi: i really think he has sent it
dub: reptillia
Chaang-Noi: yeah
Namworld: I made over 1 million in trades in the last 30 days
Namworld: But on gox =/
Chaang-Noi: i did not same made, i said trade, buying and selling
Chaang-Noi: fuck i cant type, i did not make 1 million dollars, but i traded buying and selling that volume in person mostly in thailand and the usa
Namworld: Yes, I understood that...
Chaang-Noi: coinharvest and fastcash4bitcoins and local people
Chaang-Noi: easy as fuck to do
Namworld: I'm saying I did the same, more or less. But on gox
Chaang-Noi: fuck gox, we dont need it
Chaang-Noi: ahh okay
dub: this is good http://thefuckingbitcoin.com/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4701 = 1.8804 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4701 = 2.3505 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.318788 = 13.1879 BTC [+]
jcpham: i have asked matonis personally for a response from the bitcoin foundation
jcpham: soon
Framedragger: dub that's awesome
maximian: Vesennes should resign as chairman. I nominate MPOE-PR as his replacement.
Chaang-Noi: ha
Chaang-Noi: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186185.0 hahahahhahahaha
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.3100001 = 3.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3188 = 2.6376 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.319 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.10899 = 2.1798 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 11 @ 0.10899 = 1.1989 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.27399 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.274 = 0.822 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00071407 = 4.0702 BTC [-]
jurov: only if btctalk wasn't down
jurov: theymos is too busy doing ama on reddit, no time for btctalk :D
jurov: looool seems like vessenes did another typo: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1dl6uz/coinlab_sues_mtgox/c9rgtrz
jurov: added 3 zeros to $75K
Scrat: "I'm thinking about how best to proceed with that. I definitely want to get new forum software created, but I need to figure out how best to turn the BTC into a good finished product."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6111 @ 0.00071407 = 4.3637 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7789 @ 0.00071057 = 5.5346 BTC [-]
Scrat: not sure if daft or purposely deceiving
jurov: $avg
mpexbot: jurov: 102.91
Scrat: custom forum software... are you fucking kidding me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.31000005 = 7.75 BTC [-]
jurov: with that money the can fkn hire joel spolsky or some such luminary to do forum right
jurov: meh, no point frothing about that
Scrat: existing forum software is (mostly) secure as a result of years of people being trying to break them
Scrat: -being
jurov: !depth
jurov: $depth
mpexbot: jurov: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7FcRXeVq
jurov: how do i display depth here?
jurov: !depth O.USD.C314T
jurov: $depth O.USD.C314T
mpexbot: jurov: O.USD.C314T Bids: ['1000 @ 2e-08']
mpexbot: jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.05098201']
jurov: $depth O.USD.C314N
mpexbot: jurov: O.USD.C314N Bids: ['1000 @ 2e-08']
mpexbot: jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.1184941']
jurov: $depth O.USD.C227T
mpexbot: jurov: O.USD.C227T Bids: ['1000 @ 2e-08']
mpexbot: jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.05098201']
jurov: $depth O.USD.C227N
mpexbot: jurov: O.USD.C227N Bids: ['1000 @ 2e-08']
mpexbot: jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.18918345']
Scrat: call the bottom guise
jurov: lowest breakeven point on *next* month options is ~ 176
jurov: mpoe bot is dipping its balls too deep again
jurov: $depth O.USD.C131t
mpexbot: jurov: O.USD.C131T Bids: ['1000 @ 0.00431737']
mpexbot: jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.18889226']
jurov: $depth O.USD.C134t
mpexbot: jurov: O.USD.C134T Bids: ['1000 @ 2e-08']
mpexbot: jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.18059408', '10 @ 0.37']
jurov: $depth O.USD.C137t
mpexbot: jurov: O.USD.C137T Bids: ['1000 @ 2e-08']
mpexbot: jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.17269112']
jurov: ahh that 0.37 wreaked havoc to my spreadsheet
Chaang-Noi: bitcointalk.org down?
jurov: yes
Chaang-Noi: thx
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.42998 = 0.86 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.42999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.274 = 0.822 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.275 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3195 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: wow cog over .3
parseval: BFL started shipping
parseval: Cog has a heavy BFL order, something like 6 or 7 60GH/s miners from BFL
parseval: Eventually they'll get a significant boost to their hashing power
Chaang-Noi: oh i know
Chaang-Noi: i just bought 414 shares at an average price near .11
Chaang-Noi: like a month ago
Chaang-Noi: someone sold into my low ass bids
Chaang-Noi: like 4 times
parseval: Very nice
Chaang-Noi: yeah
parseval: I have some I got cheap tied up securing a BTCJam loan... I really wish that site would transfer dividends that are accrued while they hold your collateral securities
parseval: Either way.. I wanted to hold them for a while so I didn't mind locking them down
parseval: I think there's a market for a competitor in the collateralized BTC loan niche there, if the new competitor can pay back dividends at the end of the loan term
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.000708 = 3.186 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.0007071 = 2.2274 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.33335, Best ask: 89.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.64665, Last trade: 89.99428, 24 hour volume: 289762.16466107, 24 hour low: 85.01000, 24 hour high: 121.97998, 24 hour vwap: 100.26635
davout: brace yourselves we're going under 50
parseval: I wish
Chaang-Noi: i kinda wonder if we are
Chaang-Noi: i think we will get close
Diablo-D3: you know, Im pissed off
Diablo-D3: I'd love to release dividends
Diablo-D3: forums are down
tiberiusiv: ;;bids 50
gribble: There are currently 131292.58 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 8886062.75366 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0065 seconds
tiberiusiv: ;;asks 150
gribble: There are currently 78395.924 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 10103263.1678 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.4850 seconds
tiberiusiv: ;;asks 200
gribble: There are currently 136994.79 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 20132487.1587 USD in total. | Data vintage: 10.1539 seconds
tiberiusiv: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 27329083 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14748803.8693 USD in total. | Data vintage: 16.9295 seconds
davout: let's sell to cut losses hurr durr
davout: :-)
Chaang-Noi: ill be honest, i sold some btc, but at 133, 230 and 255
Chaang-Noi: i do hope we hit 50 again cuz i want to buy at 55
tiberiusiv: i doubt 50's
tiberiusiv: everyones already sold out
Chaang-Noi: i think we might hit 50's before we hit 250's
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.31876 = 15.8251 BTC [-]
tiberiusiv: if you had a long position id be worried
tiberiusiv: 250's will never be seen for along time
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.319 = 15.828 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: there are a lot of people who wanted to sell at 130 or higher but did not, and yeah since 250s wont be seen for a long time these people some, will slowly sell off
Chaang-Noi: i know a local guy who wants to sell 20k worth so he can buy a car, but that was at 130
Chaang-Noi: will he at 80's? maybe...
Chaang-Noi: maybe not
ukru: he will
Chaang-Noi: lots of people like this
ukru: as he sold his coiuns at $162 !
ukru: ;)
Chaang-Noi: the first bubles the peak was 32 and went to 2 so if we fall the same we will ahve to go all the way back to like 15 (but i dont think that will happen) but i bet we atleast test 50 again
Chaang-Noi: im not saying this month, but before 250
MJR_: Yo! kakobrekla!
MJR_: the guy on cnbc is in bratislava
jurov: mjr_ you have us mixed again
jurov: i'm in bratislava, not kako
MJR_: oh hahaha
jurov: =D
MJR_: slovenia vs slovakia?
jurov: no, somalia
MJR_: hahaha
jurov: and what he's doing here? checking up local guys?
MJR_: reporting on some ECB thing
MJR_: something to do with the comments that central banker made that basically moved the euro a little
MJR_: just thought it was cool that i recognized the name of a foreign place on tv lol
jurov: ah that eurozone doom... but still doesn't explain the odd place
MJR_: i know...i was curious too
MJR_: he had a british accent
jurov: picking up guys i say... we're apparantly some popular fag destination
jurov: that happens to be in eurozone
MJR_: Ewald Nowotny <--- I think he made his comments in Bratislava
davout: yeah, we'll be sending ours to your direction
davout: also ohai
MJR_: hey davout
jurov: this? http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international-business/no-negative-ecb-deposit-rate-for-now-says-ewald-nowotny/articleshow/19862180.cms
MJR_: yep
jurov: seems he's ec spokepserson, not journalist
MJR_: yes, there was a journalist there because he spoke about it there
MJR_: i guess
jurov: seems ecb had some fag meeting on bratislava
MJR_: lol
jurov: um, if they really do hve such meets, i should research this more :P
davout: want to join in ? :-)
jurov: i'll decide when i'll have the information
jurov: or maybe they will ask me first about securing some stash on mpex :D
jurov: lol http://www.bitcointalk.org/ hijacked
davout: woow
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.14946, Best ask: 90.17776, Bid-ask spread: 0.02830, Last trade: 90.14946, 24 hour volume: 287950.79400385, 24 hour low: 85.01000, 24 hour high: 118.00000, 24 hour vwap: 99.70197
mircea_popescu: aww
davout: wtf, did their domain expire with them forgetting to renew it ?
mircea_popescu: who ?
davout: bitcointalk.org
mircea_popescu: no, they were hosted by mtgox
mircea_popescu: which is being raided by japanese police reading maps
jurov: reddit hivemind says it was paid until 2021 but got prolly hijacked
jurov: mircea_popescu: know about the lawsuit already?
davout: doesn't look available
mircea_popescu: which one ?
davout: they haven't been hosted by mtgox for a while now
parseval: Which is why you should always turn on the registrar lock :D
jurov: cinlab is suing gox
mircea_popescu: lol yeah.
davout: they were hosted by "private internet access"
jurov: http://gawker.com/massive-bitcoin-business-partnership-devolves-into-75-487857656
davout: jurov: popcorn for everyone
jurov: mircea, there are moar lawsuits since yest?
jurov: in coinland
tiberiusiv: well bitcoins party has ended
davout: it's on pause
tiberiusiv: yea for a very long time.
davout: i'd say 1 or 1.5 years
tiberiusiv: last pause took 2 years to surpass a high
tiberiusiv: this time probably even longer
davout: probably
Scrat: less
jurov: i'm not into analysis at all but this actually looks sane: http://i.imgur.com/WRRJnUS.png
davout: i think the timeframe will probably be somewhat similar, but the next bubble might take us into 3000 USD/BTC territory
davout: or not
MJR_: we'll see
davout: if we don't die stupidly until then
MJR_: who here is surprised that gox acted like gox and coinlab acted like coinlab
davout: choking on the popcorn we eat watching the coinlab/mtgox farce
davout: i'm surprised that they need to take it to the public place
KRS-1: ok who the hell pulled the plug
KRS-1: lol
MJR_: so Disrupt was happening in NYC
MJR_: and a bunch of cali vc's were talking about bitcoin
MJR_: one of them had a great point
MJR_: he said something to the effect of...people have been building some businesses, but I think you will see a second wave of businesses start
MJR_: and that is what i think is happening
MJR_: first wave is dying
MJR_: second wave is preparing
davout: i think we're going to see lots of press about the immaturity of bitcoin, a couple of years will pass, someone will make a major announcement, and suddenly the roller-coaster starts climbing the trend again
mircea_popescu: <MJR_> who here is surprised that gox acted like gox and coinlab acted like coinlab << nobody.
mircea_popescu: besides the new people might not know the tradehill dwolla lawsuit
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/329856208393613312
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.31499999 = 3.15 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <MJR_> first wave is dying << fu mpex will eat you all
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.1077 = 1.077 BTC [-]
jurov: i only met kids from startup incubator few times and have enough "waves" talk for lifetime
mircea_popescu: waves ?
jurov: tlaking about something coming up in waves, new paradigms etc.
mircea_popescu: o that stuff
MJR_: obviously mpex was excluded from that statement
MJR_: if that wasn't obvious to all here
MJR_: also satoshidice
MJR_: and bitbet
MJR_: maybe a few others
jurov: mjr_ what would you say to company named "Improbable Solutions LLC"?
jurov: just using you as a lab rat for a moment
MJR_: sounds interesting
MJR_: i would say i feel pretty neutral so far
MJR_: but i'm still listening
jurov: good. i'm going to found it and wasn't sure if it doesn;t sound too negative
MJR_: nah, i wouldn't say negative
MJR_: overall neutral i think
jurov: if it's interesting and maybe a bit funny then it's what i need
MJR_: yes, it is both of those
jurov: thx. problem solved.
jurov: i had a friend that wanted to emphasize how creative he is
jurov: so he started a company First Media - procreative studio
jurov: even to me it was obvious he rather "overdid" it... so doesn't hurt to ask native speakers :)
mircea_popescu: :p
mjr_1: lol
MJR_: procreative?
jurov: yes. some are proactive, so he can be procreative
MJR_: lol i think i get what he was going for...but procreation is having sex
MJR_: was that intentional?
jurov: not at all. he refused to even admit when i pointed out
MJR_: hahaha
Scrat: Welcome to the future home of "bitcointalk.org"
Scrat: Domain Management Login
Scrat: Need to enable web hosting?
Scrat: durp
MJR_: you took over the domain?
Scrat: MJR_: I suggest you visit the website
MJR_: its down...
Scrat: ;;isitup bitcointalk.org
gribble: Error: "isitup" is not a valid command.
jurov: https is down, http is parked
Scrat: ;;isitdown bitcointalk.org
gribble: bitcointalk.org is up
MJR_: lol i see it now
Scrat: jurov is right
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.93 = 5.79 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: I like "Improbable Solutions LLC"?
ThickAsThieves: minus the ?
ThickAsThieves: sounds sorta like a television/movie/cg studio
jurov: ThickAsThieves: that's why the name is quoted. fix your parser :D
ThickAsThieves: my parser just woke up
ThickAsThieves: :)
mircea_popescu: he slept with his parser
mircea_popescu: which is ga-ha-hay
ThickAsThieves: mp, is there a goxcoinlablol trilema post yet?
ThickAsThieves: the world is waiting
jurov: there's twitter one already. whole thing prolly not worthy of his further consideration ;)
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves noap
mircea_popescu: i already posted about coin* fail
mircea_popescu: what, am i gonna spam myself every time they do ?
mircea_popescu: a ok give jurov cookies!
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/fredwilson/status/330282608183345152
jurov: omnomnom
mircea_popescu: ok, that is wilson's office
jurov: *gurp*
mircea_popescu: what the bloody fuck i know real estate agents IN ROMANIA with a better office
MJR_: who is fred wilson?
ThickAsThieves: someone that likes to drink a lot
mircea_popescu: a vc guy
Bugpowder: lotta bozze
ThickAsThieves: his twitter says "I am a VC"
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder its prolly giftsd
mircea_popescu: at some point it was fashionable to give people bottles
mircea_popescu: i think by now its subsiding
Bugpowder: The Dominae de Canton is half empty
Bugpowder: ginger liquer
Bugpowder: a flask
ThickAsThieves: any good?
Bugpowder: yeah
ThickAsThieves: i like ginger stuff
Bugpowder: I mean, for a mixed drink
mircea_popescu: gingerale for adults
Bugpowder: or I guess you can shoot it
ThickAsThieves: ginger ale is a rarity in restaurants here for some reason (north FL)
ThickAsThieves: it's abundant in the northeast tho
ThickAsThieves: too exotic for the rednecks maybe
MJR_: yeah its at the bar a block away from here
mircea_popescu: actually i think my fav liqueur is this italian thing
mircea_popescu: strega
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 23 @ 1.31897 = 30.3363 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 38 @ 1.31897 = 50.1209 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: means "witch" sounds cool
mircea_popescu: so i go "summarize this"
mircea_popescu: i get back "karpeles says he has no idea what's going on."
mircea_popescu: i'm like "right. why do i even bother."
error4733: ;;ticler
gribble: Error: "ticler" is not a valid command.
error4733: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.30001, Best ask: 82.71226, Bid-ask spread: 0.41225, Last trade: 83.00000, 24 hour volume: 319970.07153489, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 97.26344
error4733: ;;bids 51
gribble: There are currently 109437.13 bitcoins demanded at or over 51.0 USD, worth 7184724.87849 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0054 seconds
leotreasure: what happened to all the options?
leotreasure: oh - there are some left, nm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9297 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9199 BTC [-]
error4733: ,,eightball are we doomed ?
error4733: ;;eightball are we doomed ?
gribble: One would be wise to think so.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.3199 = 3.199 BTC [+]
leotreasure: why are options disappearing?
jurov: mpoe bot decided not to put orders?
jurov: $avg
mpexbot: jurov: 96.96
jurov: this works, tho
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.31897 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: leotreasure options are periodically refreshed.
leotreasure: thanks mircea_popescu - do you know if they're coming back soon?
jurov: already there
mircea_popescu: they're on right now
leotreasure: sweet thanks!
mircea_popescu: you will have momentary gaps now and again as the old ones expire / new ones go in.
mjr_1: due to the quantic nature of the universe?
mircea_popescu: also butts.
davout: karpeles made a statement regarding the lawsuit, basically : "i'm 12 what is this"
sturles: He did? Where?
davout: https://mtgox.com/pdf/20130503_coinlab_lawsuit.pdf
thestringpuller: dude wtf happened while I was asleep¿??
mjr_1: fucking hilarious, the mark and peter are both on the foundation board, and he didn't even know he was being sued?
davout: thestringpuller: your brain re-organizing information, dreaming, wetting your sheets maybe
thestringpuller: fuck I'll have to read about this shiznit later
thestringpuller: got papers to finish
mjr_1: its pretty hilarious
davout: but it ain't pretty :-)
mircea_popescu: <davout> karpeles made a statement regarding the lawsuit, basically : "i'm 12 what is this" << <mircea_popescu> so i go "summarize this" i get back "karpeles says he has no idea what's going on." i'm like "right. why do i even bother."
sturles: The press release looks sensible to me.
mircea_popescu: aren't you the "lag looks sensible to me " guy?
davout: lol
sturles: Would be stupid to comment out of the blue when it can potentially cost you 75 million USD.
davout: well, it's sensible but it's still funny he doesn't know shit
mircea_popescu: ya, it's always sensible to appear clueless whern being sued.
sturles: Obviously CoinLab didn't tell him.
mircea_popescu: if anyone was pondering whether to join in the fray, just the signal they need
mircea_popescu: derp
davout: POPCORN FOR BTC! POPCORN FOR BTC!
sturles: Something is fishy here. How could CoinLab be ready at the 22nd, three days after the FinCEN statement? I doubt it.
Bugpowder: hey guys I gotta run but when tiberusiv shows up, call him an idiot for me.
sturles: The case will probably end with some kind of settlement. CoinLab trying to put the blame on MtGox.
Bugpowder: tx
imsaguy: <sturles> Something is fishy here. How could CoinLab be ready at the 22nd, three days after the FinCEN statement? I doubt it. << pretty easy actually.
mircea_popescu: how do you know how the case will end up ?
sturles: CoinLab probably has a lot of pissed customers on their end.
imsaguy: They were probably already registering for the MSB license
imsaguy: which is all fincen was requiring of them.
mircea_popescu: not really any customers, they just got the seething ego of vessenes whom i've trashed to all shit and publicly humiliated for three lifetimes.
davout: imsaguy: no, that would be for fixed rate exchangers
mircea_popescu: so no, this lawsuit is not ending in a settlement. you can't settle egos.
davout: exchanges like mtgox need other licenses
davout: that in itself was already dodgy
mircea_popescu: davout arguably coinlab was not an exchange. without going into the whole legal theiory here
mircea_popescu: what they were trying to do is exploit a present hole in legislation.
imsaguy: coinlab was going to handle the cash
imsaguy: gox handle the exchange
davout: if they aren't counterparty to transactions they are an exchange and hold fiat on behalf of third-parties
mircea_popescu: they failed, through mostly everone involved being ignorant idiots
davout: imsaguy: the technical platform does not matter, it's the entity that holds the funds who needs the license
imsaguy: ...
mircea_popescu: this is not france you know.
imsaguy: did I not just say they were already registering for the license when fincen released their guidance?
davout: imsaguy: i'm saying they'd need a different license
imsaguy: which?
imsaguy: and more importantly, how do you know they hadn't started the process for that?
sturles: I understand you need a licence for each state if you are going to hold user funds.
davout: i have no idea, like mircea_popescu said it is not france, but the fincen guidance referred to people exchanging btc for fiat, not for people who sit in the middle and acts as escrow
sturles: Those licences aren't cheap.
imsaguy: no
davout: sturles: yup, and you gotta get one in each state
imsaguy: they typically require a $25M bond
imsaguy: that in and of itself prices many out
sturles: My guess is that CoinLab wasn't ready, but don't see themselves as beeing in breach of contract. Transferred customers wouldn't be able to transfer funds or trade.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C080T] 108 @ 0.38603715 = 41.692 BTC
imsaguy: The court filing attached the contract
imsaguy: the scribd document of the court filing failed to include said contract
davout: and that might be because the msb license itself isn't enough, but hey, just my opinion
imsaguy: I would like to read it
mjr_1: huh? coinlab is the suer...
davout: imsaguy: yea me too!
mjr_1: why would they be worried about bein in breach of contract
mjr_1: they are saying gox breached the contract
imsaguy: the problem with all of the fincen guidance is it is untested
imsaguy: until it hits a court, people can kind of do what they want
imsaguy: and think they are in compliance
davout: yep
davout: did anyone find the actual contract that should be attached to the filing ?
LainZ: davout > http://fr.scribd.com/doc/139181173/Contract-between-Mt-Gox-and-Coinlab
davout: LainZ: thank you
LainZ: You're going to San Jose right davout ?
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 81.83435, Best ask: 81.85530, Bid-ask spread: 0.02095, Last trade: 81.85530, 24 hour volume: 315308.23666282, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 96.42800
imsaguy: LainZ: thank you
davout: LainZ: not sure yet, there's like a shit ton of stuff to do here
mircea_popescu: the main reason that contract is relevant is because it shows the targets
mircea_popescu: which are i imagine news to many people who misrepresent the exchange revenues etc.
davout: mircea_popescu: they seem kinda low
mircea_popescu: notrly.
mircea_popescu: if you know what things are really like they're sort of ambitious.
davout: dunno, if you take an average 1% fee on the volume it's like 30M USD volume, there's lots of room to cover the costs, don't think so?
ThickAsThieves: the thing that surprised me about the contract
mircea_popescu: ya well, this is why buffett said acquisitions are always at a disadvantage ot the buyer
ThickAsThieves: is that coinlab agreed to make 10% more than previous year revenue for 0 years
ThickAsThieves: 10
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves why surprised ? we know they don't jhave a business strategist.
ThickAsThieves: like who would bet on a bitcoin business for 10 years at this point
ThickAsThieves: i wouldnt even bet 2
kakobrekla: ;;bc,stat
gribble: Error: "bc,stat" is not a valid command.
kakobrekla: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 234340 | Current Difficulty: 1.0076292883418716E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 235871 | Next Difficulty In: 1531 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 9 hours, 57 minutes, and 33 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10137984.6621 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.61225
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves speaking of which :
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-best-investments-in-the-history-of-bitcoin/
ThickAsThieves: awesome
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29501 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: o look bitbet
mircea_popescu: hehe
LainZ: nice one again mircea_popescu been reading your blog for a long time and it is greatly appreciated, thanks!
kakobrekla: must be some cool guys
mircea_popescu: my pleasure.
mircea_popescu: http://jpkoning.blogspot.ca/2013/05/bitcoins-hyperdeflationary-recession.html
mircea_popescu: actually, anyone with a reddit account kind enough to spread the luv ?
mircea_popescu: we have a responsibility to educate our inferior friends over there.
mjr_1: share that blog post?
mircea_popescu: yeh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4797 BTC [+]
davout: mircea_popescu just wants someone to buy his trilema credits :)
mircea_popescu: ya i'm only making more than most bitcoin businesses from those credits so...
mircea_popescu: gotta push it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.945 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: Can I get free trilemma credits if I do?
mircea_popescu: i thought you already had some
thestringpuller: haha I is just messin with you
thestringpuller: aren't you inhibitor on reddit mircea_popescu ?
davout: mircea_popescu: you do write quite a few articles so i guess they're deserved!
mircea_popescu: peeps always messin' with ma style
davout: haven't bought any yet :-)
mircea_popescu: well they're in bitcoin so that's understandable.
LainZ: me neither, using hidemyass works well:)
mircea_popescu: lol
ThickAsThieves: that MOneyness article is so-so
mjr_1: what is it, 5 free per day?
ThickAsThieves: he conveniently ignores some things
mircea_popescu: per week
ThickAsThieves: but also
mjr_1: ah cool
ThickAsThieves: he ignores a huge factor regarding SR
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i think he's a noob mostly. bitcvopin noob i mean
mircea_popescu: he's an economist
ThickAsThieves: competition
ThickAsThieves: also
ThickAsThieves: in SR
davout: mircea_popescu: implements incredibly tight security on mpex, enforeces payments using the client IP :D
ThickAsThieves: what happens is
ThickAsThieves: certain sellers get very successful
ThickAsThieves: cuz people want an easy trust choice
mircea_popescu: davout well yeah. what, people want to steal books ? let them.
ThickAsThieves: then those sellers leave SR
ThickAsThieves: and go privaye
ThickAsThieves: private*
mircea_popescu: a excellent point you have there
mircea_popescu: should make a comment on his blog prolly. this is unobvious but solid.
ThickAsThieves: SR has no way to obfuscate customer data, so no way to retain customers
jurov: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1dm85o/the_best_investments_in_the_history_of_bitcoin/
mjr_1: upvoted
jurov: lol it picked mp's smug face again
mjr_1: lol
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: why is pirate/usagi considered non-investment?
ezdiy: i mean its dubious and all
ezdiy: but as long you werent the last fool holding the bag ...
kakobrekla: trollcointalk down?
davout: kakobrekla: lol
ezdiy: kakobrekla: trolling there stopped long ago
ezdiy: its been made of pure fail past 4 months
kakobrekla: unserious.
mircea_popescu: ezdiy wait what ?!
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: just pull out the principal if its a ponzi
mircea_popescu: it's not considered an investment because it's not an investment.
ezdiy: and you win the game
mircea_popescu: needs a business to be an investment.
ezdiy: well, it works
ezdiy: until it fails
ezdiy: :)
mircea_popescu: moving money from pocket to pocket is neither business nor investment
mircea_popescu: heh. that's not how it goes, no.
ezdiy: but you imply *everybody* loses
ezdiy: which is simply not true
mircea_popescu: everybody does lose.
mircea_popescu: yes, it's simply true. if economy consists of this idiocy we all starve
mircea_popescu: period.
ezdiy: why?
ezdiy: i made money with pirate
ezdiy: fuck economy
jurov: ezdiy: just few days you argued with me mpex is just a bucket shop
mircea_popescu: yes, well, the opinions of retarded 15yos aside, things are what they are.
jurov: now everything someone makes money from is legit?
ezdiy: well, isnt it?
ezdiy: i mean, how do you write options in mpex?
ezdiy: :)
mircea_popescu: sigh.
ezdiy: jurov: bucket shops are legit
ezdiy: actually anything morally dubious is legit as long its transparent
jurov: ezdiy, there is an api for writing options, or what are you asking for?
mircea_popescu: this is the problem of talking to the ignorant. to them all the words mean the same thing and it changes randomly. so therefore discussion is an exercise in what, aesthetics.
ezdiy: jurov: transparency
ezdiy: :)
jurov: can you elaborate?
mjr_1: there are two ways to create an option
mjr_1: either SPLIT
mjr_1: or MKOPT
mjr_1: i believ
jurov: ezdiy knows, he's just trolling
mjr_1: ah cool
mjr_1: nice job ezdiy
ezdiy: jurov: well, as long things are not transparent
ezdiy: there are ignorants
jurov: nyse is bucket shop then, too you can't even access IPO directly without going through some intermediary bank
mircea_popescu: herpderp
ezdiy: for example
ezdiy: you were ignorant for listing a ponzi
mircea_popescu: what ?
mircea_popescu: anyhway, enough of this, i have people to meet. catch you all later
ThickAsThieves: if i visit a mining pool, and it spits out "Access denied for user 'ltc'@'localhost' (using password: YES)"
ThickAsThieves: is that something that will be exploited once live again?
ThickAsThieves: website i mean
davout: no
ThickAsThieves: word
davout: that means mysql denies access
ThickAsThieves: i think their host doesnt want them anymore
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 86.00000, Best ask: 87.37727, Bid-ask spread: 1.37727, Last trade: 88.93000, 24 hour volume: 317169.48209858, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 96.07508
Scrat: ThickAsThieves: it means that you're a hack (if you're spitting out errors to visitors that reveal database details)
Scrat: and that you should go back to writing hello world applications
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00167 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: well, i should known with a name like give-me-ltc.com
Uglux: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.10000, Best ask: 90.35000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 90.10000, 24 hour volume: 322025.96705327, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 95.95725
Uglux: lolercoaster
ThickAsThieves: like 8k bidwall at 90 now
ThickAsThieves: someone wants to sell coins at a higher price
Uglux: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-best-investments-in-the-history-of-bitcoin/
Uglux: poor giga
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3187 = 2.6374 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.3195 = 0.9585 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 17.070391 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0342088724344 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
Chaang-Noi: im a goat!
Rhino: I'm a Rhino
Chaang-Noi: awesome :)
Diablo-D3: hurray the forums are back
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.00000, Best ask: 93.99989, Bid-ask spread: 0.99989, Last trade: 93.00000, 24 hour volume: 330614.82688208, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 95.36606
Chaang-Noi: why were they down?
Rhino: Likewise
Chaang-Noi: nice to see btc back in the 90s
Rhino: bitcointalk is still down for me
Chaang-Noi: works in tbhailand
jurov: and in yurp
Diablo-D3: they were down since yesterday
Diablo-D3: I wanted to post dividends but couldnt
Chaang-Noi: hmm was just down again for me
Chaang-Noi: but now bacvk
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.315 = 2.205 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.31 = 4.03 BTC [-]
Rhino: Still see the domain registration page on it
Chaang-Noi: lol did they forgetto pay for the domain?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.30079994 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.30079994 = 2.1056 BTC [-]
Rhino: Looks like it
Rhino: Or hacked
Chaang-Noi: maybe they need more funding
Chaang-Noi: ]they only have like 500k usd for the forum
Ukto: forums are back? doesnt load for me
Chaang-Noi: for some yes
Chaang-Noi: i get it
Chaang-Noi: others ahve said no
Ukto: well give it here!
Ukto: "I just dont get it" :P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.30079994 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: bitcointalk is up
thestringpuller: 109.201.133.65
thestringpuller: just hit that ip
Ukto: down I say! :P
thestringpuller: ;;title 109.201.133.65
gribble: Bitcoin Forum - Index
thestringpuller: :P
Ukto: ;;echo Down Down DOWN!
gribble: Down Down DOWN!
Ukto: :P
Ukto: theres like... no updates lol
davout: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.32002, Best ask: 94.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.97998, Last trade: 94.30000, 24 hour volume: 311433.29392122, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 94.99566
davout: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 97.10688, Best ask: 97.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.79312, Last trade: 98.00000, 24 hour volume: 311640.01921008, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 94.92621
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00069719 = 3.7648 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.38499 = 0.77 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0155 = 0.155 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 95 @ 0.01599 = 1.5191 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 80 @ 0.016 = 1.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3187 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.75000, Best ask: 95.09000, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 94.69001, 24 hour volume: 305443.43095715, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 94.87912
ThickAsThieves: not sure how many of you have been following my tinfoil gox manipulator rants
ThickAsThieves: but if you believe them whatsoever
ThickAsThieves: i want to update that the 20k wall at 70
ThickAsThieves: is now at 8k
benkay: what's the game being played?
ThickAsThieves: so this manipulator is probably using some of that coin
ThickAsThieves: not coin, cash
ThickAsThieves: to prop up the price at 90
truff1es: ThickAsThieves i remember the rant like 2 weeks ago
truff1es: but not the details heh
ThickAsThieves: benkay,
ThickAsThieves: basically
ThickAsThieves: afte rthe midapril bubble burst
ThickAsThieves: we were chilling in the 60s for a while
ThickAsThieves: things were actually sorta stable
ThickAsThieves: then someone posted a bidwall at 70
ThickAsThieves: all at once
ThickAsThieves: at about 15k
ThickAsThieves: everyone just sorta ignored it
ThickAsThieves: and built on top of it
ThickAsThieves: really its the whole foundation that got us to 160
ThickAsThieves: once we hit 80
truff1es: a few ppl suggested that one should buy or sell at that time..
ThickAsThieves: he put up another
ThickAsThieves: and he probly helped build the whole bubble last time too
ThickAsThieves: well
ThickAsThieves: today is the first day since it appearred
ThickAsThieves: that it has dropped in size
ThickAsThieves: and a couple hours ago
ThickAsThieves: someone rallied the price from 82 to 90
ThickAsThieves: and posted new bidwalls
ThickAsThieves: that was probably him
ThickAsThieves: he's letting everyone else thicken the bidbook
ThickAsThieves: and buy above his walls
ThickAsThieves: so he can crash when ready
truff1es: wish i understood the process...
truff1es: or what ure saying
truff1es: but im guessing someone is just fist pumping himself right now
truff1es: or some ppl
ThickAsThieves: there is risk to what he is doing
ThickAsThieves: but
ThickAsThieves: if he is the biggest player on gox
ThickAsThieves: not much risk
Chaang-Noi: i think people over think this stuff:)
ThickAsThieves: possibly
ThickAsThieves: but can you refute it?
Chaang-Noi: lol
jcpham: i asked matonis last night for a comment on the legitimacy of the foundation
jcpham: "Please understand that due to ongoing discussions, I am unable to comment publicly. I agree with you about a strong foundation and I would add that it needs a neutral and independent executive director"
Chaang-Noi: no i cant refute crazy ramblings, i agree you MIGHT be correct
jcpham: " I will definitely make a comment when things become more clear. Thanks for your support."
jcpham: whatever that means
ThickAsThieves: its not THAT crazy
truff1es: then its not crazy ramblings
Chaang-Noi: jcpham fuck the foundation, this is btc
ThickAsThieves: i'm not normally a tinfoil kinda guy
ThickAsThieves: but i watched these things happen
ThickAsThieves: and decided to theorize answers
Chaang-Noi: t crazy
Chaang-Noi: but i see not evidance to support it, or say its not true
ThickAsThieves: how would you explain the sudden bidwalls?
ThickAsThieves: just someone saying hey wtf lemme post a big bid!
truff1es: cra·zy Adjective
truff1es: Mentally deranged, esp. as manifested in a wild or aggressive way: "Stella went crazy and assaulted a visitor".v
ThickAsThieves: i would love to get a fair argument that makes mine look crazy
ThickAsThieves: i'm not tied to it if its a dumb theory
jcpham: i wear the tinfoil with you ThickAsThieves
jcpham: "he" or "them" have been buuilding it up and tearing it down again for months
jcpham: maybe years
ThickAsThieves: the best thing we can do is ride with them
ThickAsThieves: not against them
ThickAsThieves: then we get more power
jcpham: no sense swimming against the current
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.80000, Best ask: 94.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 94.99000, 24 hour volume: 298905.40822556, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 94.89145
thestringpuller: i keep missing cheap coins ugh
ThickAsThieves: dont worry
ThickAsThieves: youll get your chance soon
ThickAsThieves: even cheaper
truff1es: <jcpham> no sense swimming against the current>>> easiest way to control ppl heh
ThickAsThieves: truff1es, the difference here is, more coins = more power
ThickAsThieves: and anyone can get coins
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194121.0
kakobrekla: MJR_ mjr_1 mjr___ ^^
kakobrekla: and also, get a bouncer
truff1es: its just whenever this group wants something u follow so i dunno
kakobrekla: this is ... ridiculus.
thestringpuller: kakobrekla: you are ridiculous
thestringpuller: where is mircea_popescu
truff1es: page doesnt load
thestringpuller: summon him from the depths
Chaang-Noi: feeding his slaves
thestringpuller: Chaang-Noi: are you Thai?
kakobrekla: slaves are feeding him
Chaang-Noi: no
thestringpuller: wut is ur nationality?
Chaang-Noi: usa
truff1es: no.1
Chaang-Noi: meh
Chaang-Noi: iv not been there for 8 years cuz it was no 1...
Chaang-Noi: but most thai peole think that...
Chaang-Noi: think im crazy for being in thailand
thestringpuller: live like king you do
truff1es: crazy huh
Chaang-Noi: im happy here
ThickAsThieves: kraken is fancy
kakobrekla: yes
kakobrekla: fancy
kakobrekla: that is what matters
kakobrekla: on the trading platform
kakobrekla: fancyness.
kakobrekla: UP THIS MOTHERFUCKER!
ThickAsThieves: ?
ThickAsThieves: up this?
Chaang-Noi: he thinks he is on reedit
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=fdve38tu9rdt438jjvl3kin964&topic=194121.msg2014146#msg2014146
kakobrekla: he calls his exchange motherfucker?
ThickAsThieves: i'm a guy that appreciates some fancy in my software
kakobrekla: so you are gay?
ThickAsThieves: not that i know of
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3187 BTC [+]
truff1es: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP5rcFQ7Tss Drones Over America: A Booming Business in North Dakota?
ThickAsThieves: possibly by your definition though
truff1es: Chaang-Noi wont find those in thailand?
kakobrekla: tools for pros dont look fancy normally
kakobrekla: tools for dorks do on the other hand
Chaang-Noi: lol drons
truff1es: image was so clear
Chaang-Noi: ah kako bitter?
ThickAsThieves: these things are not mutually attached
ThickAsThieves: pro tools can't look fancy?
Chaang-Noi: fancy is fine, its not a bad thing, but we should look at the things that really do matter
ThickAsThieves: to me it's simply taking pride in your work
kakobrekla: fancy is irrelevant
ThickAsThieves: like wearing a suit when you mean business
davout: fancirrelevant
Chaang-Noi: that is my point, fancy is irrelephant
ThickAsThieves: suits are not needed either
Chaang-Noi: we should talk about the toehr important issues
ThickAsThieves: just wear pajamas to that presentation
Chaang-Noi: i dont even own a suit
truff1es: hwy not
truff1es: why
Chaang-Noi: my car says i dont have to :)
ThickAsThieves: something doesnt have to be totally logical to make sense
ThickAsThieves: it only must work within the framework of the game you are playing
Troic_: are you michael knight ?
Chaang-Noi: :)
Chaang-Noi: wage slaves wear suit
Chaang-Noi: just ask zuaburg
Chaang-Noi: zukaburg or whatever
truff1es: if one must be in a position of leadership one must be presentable
Chaang-Noi: i dont lead shit, people just keep folowing my ass...
Troic_: for a particular definition of leadership, stallman leads his horde
truff1es: a suit isnt a requirement to appear presentable imo
Chaang-Noi: i never saught to be a leader, but at times people do follow
truff1es: ure aware of your influence then
Chaang-Noi: sometimes
truff1es: but thats just my opinion on presentation
truff1es: if my boss came to work in pj's id have to really think about who im working for
Chaang-Noi: i have in the past owned and run a business with 15 people
Chaang-Noi: and i wore my pjs before
truff1es: omg!
Chaang-Noi: staff was mostly uni kids but still
kakobrekla: hey listen
kakobrekla: whats the fastest way to get coins
kakobrekla: in the states
truff1es: to me thats like waving your penis around saying oh look at me im the boss
kakobrekla: right now
Chaang-Noi: kako i dont know, why?
kakobrekla: a friend is asking
kakobrekla: i dunno im in yurop
Chaang-Noi: truff pay was based on computer prioven performance
jborkl: buy from gerald
Chaang-Noi: kako fastcash4bitcoins will sell coins if you but 1000 or more
kakobrekla: who is gerald?
Chaang-Noi: truff we had beer in the fridge,. it was clock in out when you wanted
kakobrekla: ok tnx goat thats one option
Chaang-Noi: kako how many you need?
jborkl: fastcash4bitcoins
kakobrekla: i dunno 10k usd +
Chaang-Noi: oh his name is gerald? hahaha
truff1es: ok so that was a casual work environment then
Chaang-Noi: ill sell 10k
kakobrekla: in us?
truff1es: would still have reservations about it
Chaang-Noi: ill need a wire
Chaang-Noi: to a us bank account
kakobrekla: hrm
kakobrekla: i dunno
kakobrekla: ill ping you if it comes to it
Chaang-Noi: up to you
Chaang-Noi: okay
jborkl: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87094.0;topicseen
Chaang-Noi: im okay with escrow btw
Chaang-Noi: if you trust the guy...
kakobrekla: rgr
kakobrekla: id like to avoid being involved at all but as last resort
Chaang-Noi: ok
Chaang-Noi: if the price drops a lot im out
truff1es: derp
seongyupyoo: hey guys, is mircea here?
Chaang-Noi: lol
seongyupyoo: or anybody who remembers me or NashX?
kakobrekla: he took a walk
kakobrekla: we remember
Chaang-Noi: you mean he is walking his slaves :)
kakobrekla: the guy who wanna send coins to void
seongyupyoo: well i see he's in the room, so maybe he'll be back in a few minutes?
seongyupyoo: hey kako!
kakobrekla: but fastcahs4bitcoin only buys coins ?
kakobrekla: hi seongyupyoo
Chaang-Noi: kako you mean sell?
Chaang-Noi: right you do mean buy
kakobrekla: https://fastcash4bitcoins.com/
seongyupyoo: well, i made lots of changes to nashx and wanted to get your feedback on it
Chaang-Noi: they will sell but its tricky
seongyupyoo: http://nashx.com/About
Chaang-Noi: they ahve a bunch of hoops and you need to be the right kinda guy and what not
truff1es: Chaang-Noi hope we can hear more about ur reasons after these btc shenanigans
Chaang-Noi: also min is 1000 i think
Chaang-Noi: kako they will sell but its tricky,
Chaang-Noi: truff what?
truff1es: u know our discussion before the pressing stuff
Chaang-Noi: pjs at work?
Chaang-Noi: the job for them was mostly data entry
Chaang-Noi: so i did not give a fuck as long as they did it quickly and correctly
Chaang-Noi: hanging out for an hour or so after the clocked out drinking my beer was fine
truff1es: but were they as casually dressed as u?
Chaang-Noi: i made like $2,000 a day back then
Chaang-Noi: some at times
Chaang-Noi: mostly just wore streat clothing
Chaang-Noi: some were dressed up, cuz other things
Chaang-Noi: its was a 24 hour operation
truff1es: ok
Chaang-Noi: so yeah my being in pjs some times worked cuz sometimes i slept there, (or not at all)
kakobrekla: is bitinstant working ?
Chaang-Noi: no idea, i dont trust them fuckers
Chaang-Noi: kako you know my issue yesterday?
Chaang-Noi: the 1000 just showed up! wh000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000!!!!
Chaang-Noi: i still have 5000 blocks to do but got damn
Chaang-Noi: send me an address and ill send you a tip as a test payment
Chaang-Noi: but it will take a while to send
thestringpuller: 1000 what
thestringpuller: btc?
Chaang-Noi: goats
thestringpuller: Chaang-Noi: is a btc millionaire
thestringpuller: you should sign up for the btc millionaire club
Chaang-Noi: no im not, im a ltc millionair
jcpham: btc-e has 10% market volume now in the last week
jcpham: but only in the last 7d
Chaang-Noi: i hope they add a 0 to that
Chaang-Noi: fuck gox
thestringpuller: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.452427 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000906658642375 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
seongyupyoo: guys why not trade directly person to person?
thestringpuller: because all the btc millionaires live in the country of europe
Chaang-Noi: that is all i do
seongyupyoo: online?
thestringpuller: what is this kraken.com?
MJR_: has anyone seen my bitcoin wallet?
MJR_: it's the one that says "bad motherfucker"
MJR_: lol jk
MJR_: but i bet someone has a brainwallet from badmotherfucker just for the homage to pulp fiction
jambo_: ;;bids 0.1
gribble: There are currently 999362.89 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.1 USD, worth 14823514.2355 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0091 seconds
jambo_: ;;next
gribble: expecting to test 108 | upper target: 120-123 | updated by OneFixt at May 3 2013, 08:58 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 7 hours, 11 minutes, and 30 seconds ago
jcpham: thestringpuller i just signed up. i like it so far
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3187 BTC [+]
jcpham: seems like i read about it on hn or something a month ago
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00069249 = 3.6702 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3187 = 2.6374 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: cool chart http://www.rtcons.com/wall/10.png
Chaang-Noi: 3d?
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00499 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00499 BTC [-]
b0n1: is there a bitinstant like company for european so far?
kakobrekla: bitinstant means failing?
error4733: no, mean instan cash deposit in random location
error4733: i dream about this
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.003622 = 0.0109 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: OMG
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192122.msg2015989#msg2015989
kakobrekla: how dares he
kakobrekla: wheres his 1000k btcs for chairty motherfucker*
kakobrekla: *expression apropriate in this case
Diablo-D3: http://venturebeat.com/2013/05/03/coinlab-sues-mt-gox-for-75m/?utm_source=feedly
Diablo-D3: THE FUCK?
kakobrekla: old
Diablo-D3: how the fuck did coinlab fuck up that deal
jambo_: didnt have the infrastructure
jambo_: all they had was a contract. no plans or capabilities afterwards.
Diablo-D3: jambo_: that'd be coinlab refusing to comply with the conditions of the contract
jambo_: correct.
jambo_: the judgement isnt not. who knows, what is they counter-sue?
Diablo-D3: so why isnt mtgox suing them?
Diablo-D3: they should have been to first to sue
jambo_: they dont need to, they make mad money and they just went around them because they couldn't deliver.
jambo_: maybe he was too busy running an empire
Diablo-D3: mtgox is useless to me anyhow
Diablo-D3: they dont comply with US Federal law on data safety
Diablo-D3: and have yet to prove they did
jambo_: really?
Diablo-D3: yes
Diablo-D3: banks and other companies that handle personal data must jump through hoops to secure it
Diablo-D3: mtgox has not done so
benkay: source on the claim that coinlab didn't have infrastructure sufficient to handle gox handover?
benkay: jambo_?
jambo_: yes?
jambo_: sorry benkay, i dont have any sources, my personal opinion.
benkay: ah ty
jambo_: they couldn't deliver, couldn't even get coins for people trying to pay...
jambo_: I wouldn't be surprised if they counter-sued
benkay: that's generally what happens when lawyers get involved in a thing
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.3187 = 9.2309 BTC [+]
error4733: biggest problem is : boss of each involved partie is on bitcoin fondation board
benkay: foundation is srs bizniss
benkay: you can tell by how they resolve conflicts between board members
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.1089 = 2.178 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60548.msg2016542#msg2016542
Diablo-D3: damit
Diablo-D3: nanotube: I know you're there
Diablo-D3: turn on title display for urls
Diablo-D3: make gribble useful damnit
kakobrekla: ;;title
gribble: (title <url>) -- Returns the HTML <title>...</title> of a URL.
Diablo-D3: I want it automatic for bitcointalk urls
kakobrekla: i can hear mp shouting i want to fuck your wife
Diablo-D3: when I get one, Im sure we can negotiate a deal.
truff1es: Indecent Proposal ftw
jambo_: you guys think we hit the floor?
davout: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.50003, Best ask: 92.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39997, Last trade: 92.90000, 24 hour volume: 273106.52176777, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 94.32426
davout: definitely not
jambo_: thanks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.9199 = 5.7597 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00102 BTC [-]
benkay: $avg
mpexbot: benkay: 93.92
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 6 @ 0.325 = 1.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 3 @ 0.00101 = 0.003 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 16 @ 0.001 = 0.016 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.318 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 14 @ 0.1089 = 1.5246 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6970 @ 0.00069303 = 4.8304 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 17 @ 0.0161 = 0.2737 BTC [+]
benkay: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.69332, Best ask: 93.59899, Bid-ask spread: 0.90567, Last trade: 93.59899, 24 hour volume: 261797.37999717, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 93.76582
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1050 @ 0.0031 = 3.255 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.00301 = 0.1505 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 7 @ 0.003 = 0.021 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 400 @ 0.0029 = 1.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.0031 = 0.155 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3178 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.416001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.416 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.415 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.40051 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.4005 = 1.2015 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.400001 = 0.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.40001 BTC [+]
inhies: here you go
inhies: expand your portfilio to realestate http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/02/trump-soho-condo-selling-for-19m-in-bitcoin-only_n_3203609.html?utm_hp_ref=new-york
inhies: 18.5k btc
nanotube: Diablo-D3: sup. you can use the ;;t command, to grab title of the last url posted in chan.
Scrat: ;;t
gribble: Trump SoHo Condo Selling For $1.9M In Bitcoin Only
Diablo-D3: [03:15:58] <nanotube> Diablo-D3: sup. you can use the ;;t command, to grab title of the last url posted in chan.
Diablo-D3: yeah but I dont want to do the work
taub: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6911896/wat.png
kakobrekla: cause its not white
Bugpowder: I had green poop as a kid once
Bugpowder: I had eaten a bunch of grass pretending I was a cow.
Bugpowder: my mom freaked
Bugpowder: I was 3-4 yr old
damientrog: green shit happens
damientrog: nothing to be worried about
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.31 = 2.62 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.31 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.42988 = 0.8598 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4299 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.439 = 1.317 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.44 = 1.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 36 @ 0.00329 = 0.1184 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2981 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.298 = 6.49 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2975 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.2974 = 9.0818 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4615 = 1.3845 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.46140001 = 1.3842 BTC [-]
taub: gox getting lagspammed
taub: pa-the-tic
taub: you need 1 btc
taub: and you can play the goxlag game like a fiddle
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4614 = 0.9228 BTC [-]
jcpham: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1dmmqy/how_to_break_the_mtgox_trading_engine_with_normal/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.45750001 = 6.8625 BTC [-]
jcpham: there's how if anyone wants to play along
jcpham: check local legalities
taub: yep
taub: well i pointed this out like a month ago
taub: tux knows about it too, doesnt seem to care tho
Scrat: LOL
jcpham: i think if multiple people purposefully try it...
jcpham: legally it's a denial of service and probably a felony in the US
jcpham: ymmv
wao: oh that how we calling our cryptopumps to army
Scrat: inb4 black mtgox helicopters landing outside your house
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2911 BTC [-]
jcpham: it's not very far removed from telling people how to use loic to shut down paypal
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.291 BTC [-]
jcpham: and getting prosecuted for doing it
jcpham: be careful is all i'm saying
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.29 = 2.58 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [-]
jcpham: i actual know someone who was indicted for exactly that
MJR_: anyone know a good site for crafting bitcoin transactions?>
Scrat: http://brainwallet.org/
MJR_: so, how can i add text into my transactions?
kakobrekla: like you see on blockchain.info?
kakobrekla: thats on top of btc
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.309 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ;;genrate 25000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 25000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 10076292.8834, is 1.24774687042 BTC per day and 0.0519894529344 BTC per hour.
ThickAsThieves: ;;genrate 2500
gribble: The expected generation output, at 2500.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 10076292.8834, is 0.124774687042 BTC per day and 0.00519894529344 BTC per hour.
ThickAsThieves: ;;genrate 25.2
gribble: The expected generation output, at 25.2 Mhps, given difficulty of 10076292.8834, is 0.00125772884539 BTC per day and 5.24053685578e-05 BTC per hour.
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1089 = 0.2178 BTC [+]
parseval: ;;genrate 240
gribble: The expected generation output, at 240.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 10076292.8834, is 0.0119783699561 BTC per day and 0.00049909874817 BTC per hour.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 13 @ 0.0101 = 0.1313 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.1089 = 0.5445 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.84001, Best ask: 94.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15999, Last trade: 93.84001, 24 hour volume: 255976.52594918, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 92.64101
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.293 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.292 = 2.584 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.29104 = 2.5821 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1dmjyg/bitcoin_from_a_banker_prospective_a_serious/
thestringpuller: ;;calc 122 / (1 - .539)
gribble: 264.64208243
thestringpuller: ;;seen Syloq
gribble: I have not seen Syloq.
assbot: [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.4999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 20 @ 0.016 = 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.1089 = 0.8712 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.282075 = 3.8462 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves:
thestringpuller: see
thestringpuller: lol
ThickAsThieves: troll!
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.291 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0101 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 11 @ 0.0101 = 0.1111 BTC [-]
Namworld: urgh, where's the info on SD's profit for this month?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7320 @ 0.00069549 = 5.091 BTC [+]
damientrog: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aiec3-Eo_yO5dHB2dVdiaEltUHAtTWlBcFhXQVBYeGc#gid=0
damientrog: well that's april if that's what you meant
damientrog: otherwise wise follow the thread on bitcointalk "satoshi dice analysis" by dooglus
thestringpuller: 45466464
damientrog: that guy does fantastisc work
thestringpuller: yes he does
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 15 @ 0.10889 = 1.6334 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 12 @ 0.10889 = 1.3067 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.016 = 0.08 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: soo how's things
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.20001, Best ask: 94.87620, Bid-ask spread: 0.67619, Last trade: 94.87620, 24 hour volume: 252357.52489494, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 110.20000, 24 hour vwap: 91.73894
KRS-1: bouncing cat?
KRS-1: we go down...we come back up but not as much...we go down more...come back up but not as much...
KRS-1: just a day after cnbc calls us gold v2.0
KRS-1: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 234395 | Current Difficulty: 1.0076292883418716E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 235871 | Next Difficulty In: 1476 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 6 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10015438.6096 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.60394
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 110 @ 0.0029 = 0.319 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00285 = 0.0428 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 600 @ 0.0029 = 1.74 BTC [+]
mod6: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 95.20103, Best ask: 95.79981, Bid-ask spread: 0.59878, Last trade: 95.79981, 24 hour volume: 251905.49943468, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 109.21000, 24 hour vwap: 91.63934
mod6: $vwap ^OIX
mpexbot: mod6: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 89.62493193 high: 189.09754758 low: 72.04563121 volume: 3490 btc: 1265.76350754 30 day: no data
mircea_popescu: whioa 89 ?
mircea_popescu: remarkably accurate neh
mircea_popescu: !! Non US travelers with ESTA : #airport #customs computer systems down nationwide - only people with a physical VISA are getting in
mircea_popescu: bwahaha this is ridiculous
truffles: they should fly to Romania in protest
error4733: https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/12779-goat
error4733: need a 51€ loan
mircea_popescu: Condition:New
mircea_popescu: doiesn't looks so new...
benkay: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 97.63317, Best ask: 97.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.36682, Last trade: 98.00000, 24 hour volume: 246231.22326211, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 109.00000, 24 hour vwap: 91.29097
benkay: $avg
mpexbot: benkay: 91.30