gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.23450, Best ask: 83.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.76550, Last trade: 82.23450, 24 hour volume: 172174.43696469, 24 hour low: 83.12000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 92.56464
Bugpowder: short lived pathetic little things
Bugpowder: so unlike the bounces of yesteryear
pgp: we'll see - off to get a drink - will have to monitor situation from cell phone (blows)
orkaa: btw, anyone got a nexus 4?
orkaa: mine just doesn't like the mtgox app
orkaa: crashes on startup
Bugpowder: thats becuase the selloff's haven't gotten violent enough. yet.
Bugpowder: If we drop to 50 there will be a bounce
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.37 = 0.74 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 49607416 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12514542.8959 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0087 seconds
gribble: There are currently 161806.29 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999999.0 USD, worth 125033136860.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.8288 seconds
taub: this is more like it
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.20000, Best ask: 82.39999, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 82.40000, 24 hour volume: 181286.53123402, 24 hour low: 81.11000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 91.99549
taub: mtgox humming along nicely
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.00000, Best ask: 82.23300, Bid-ask spread: 0.23300, Last trade: 85.07394, 24 hour volume: 181765.32662977, 24 hour low: 81.11000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 91.96967
taub: why no lag suddenly?!?! maybe they finally released the brakes...
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.46070, Best ask: 82.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03930, Last trade: 82.50000, 24 hour volume: 182869.62756165, 24 hour low: 81.11000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 91.91353
Bugpowdurr: but that will only be supported if betting volume actually picks up
Bugpowdurr: and then move to s.dice when bet volume is shown to be up again
Bugpowdeer: I will buy the winkelvoxen's stack when they capitulate
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00071101 = 6.8257 BTC [-]
Bugpowdeer: btw - got some c302t's on the market, CHEEP!
gribble: expecting to test 93, then to test 98 if 93 breaks, then testing 100 and targetting 103-105 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 18:43 UTC ( tips:
http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer:
http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 2 hours, 43 minutes, and 17 seconds ago
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.00001, Best ask: 82.21000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20999, Last trade: 82.00001, 24 hour volume: 184460.54915531, 24 hour low: 81.11000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 91.82169
gribble: There are currently 6374.6862 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 513716.693315 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0041 seconds
gribble: There are currently 10789.73 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 939197.07045 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.8740 seconds
gribble: Current Blocks: 231525 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 314 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 20 hours, 4 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8928892.15082 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.36768
taub: omg lol those sells
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.40000, Best ask: 76.48000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 76.48000, 24 hour volume: 202039.77755624, 24 hour low: 76.00000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 90.72171
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.00000, Best ask: 78.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.75000, Last trade: 78.75000, 24 hour volume: 202039.77755624, 24 hour low: 76.00000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 90.72171
gribble: Blame it on MT.GOX - YouTube
taub: BTC bought: [tid:1366062491912230] 12.00000000 BTC at $76.10000
taub: BTC sold: [tid:1366062708031449] 9.15686140 BTC at $79.00000
Namworld: with so much movements, easy to flip for a few USD
gribble: expecting to test 93, then to test 98 if 93 breaks, then testing 100 and targetting 103-105 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 18:43 UTC ( tips:
http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer:
http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 3 hours, 15 minutes, and 54 seconds ago
jurov: all so unreal... since 9 April till today went travelling without access to my own mpex account, figured that won't be problem
jurov: of course, mayhem ensues in exactly that time frame
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.00000, Best ask: 72.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.90000, Last trade: 72.90000, 24 hour volume: 215607.09679741, 24 hour low: 73.31000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 89.77153
gribble: There are currently 17121.238 bitcoins demanded at or over 69.9 USD, worth 1234402.44978 USD in total. | Data vintage: 47.0863 seconds
gribble: A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 732027.7637 USD and would take the last price down to 71.5100 USD, resulting in an average price of 73.2028 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 103.7943 seconds
taub: looks like we're goign for 40
error4733: i use to pm gribble, it's confusing !bids work
gribble: MtGox lag is 1.852667 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00371272392451 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
Namworld: MtGox really fixed the lag good
Namworld: No more 300-30000 seconds of lag on panic buy/sell
error4733: satoshi kid's play with his wallet
gribble: There are currently 49577235 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11076918.2758 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0122 seconds
gribble: There are currently 163292.17 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999.0 USD, worth 3921203220.22 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.6129 seconds
gribble: There are currently 35249.319 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 3244397.7273 USD in total. | Data vintage: 45.8733 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 17 @ 0.48399999 = 8.228 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00071199 = 2.5632 BTC [+]
KRS1: are there options for short?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.899 = 4.495 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.0006 = 0.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067807 / 0.00069653 / 0.00071199 (321008 shares, 223.59 BTC), 7D: 0.00065356 / 0.00069955 / 0.000735 (2738441 shares, 1,915.70 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.0006853 / 0.00077505 (9950306 shares, 6,818.95 BTC)
Bugpowder: glad my friends will be able to get out above 80
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.895 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.89 = 1.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3213 @ 0.00071004 = 2.2814 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87021 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3401 @ 0.00071004 = 2.4148 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.21200, Best ask: 77.21210, Bid-ask spread: 0.00010, Last trade: 77.21210, 24 hour volume: 235487.22898511, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 87.89123
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8702 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10179 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00071199 = 1.424 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 5 @ 0.0016 = 0.008 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7251 @ 0.00070461 = 5.1091 BTC [-]
jurov: got btctalk PM with disguised link to proxy to get my password
jurov: wonder how many users will fall for it
Doffx: Hell I am always afraid I will fall for one
Namworld: I want to scrape BTC out of my stocks too
Doffx: why would you want to sell it now? Think its going much lower?
Bugpowder: bounce back to 87 is pretty likely. 94 plausible. 100 unlikely.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 83.70000, Best ask: 83.71000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 83.71000, 24 hour volume: 228798.11579488, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 87.58152
jurov: ;;eightball bounce
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 7 hours, 37 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
ThickAsThieves: most of the btc i got out was bonds i had with Deprived, he bought them back from me like a champ
Bugpowder: he is the only non bitcoin-assets guy with half a brain
jurov: hehe i made him once-a-lifetime offer to license coinbr code for 90BTC
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 79.10000, Best ask: 79.57928, Bid-ask spread: 0.47928, Last trade: 78.00000, 24 hour volume: 231528.75561906, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 87.45454
Bugpow: do we get one more bounce up here?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 80.63830, Best ask: 80.65190, Bid-ask spread: 0.01360, Last trade: 78.80000, 24 hour volume: 234374.31191872, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 87.29248
pgp: nice to see a little volume coming back into the market...
pgp: down from here I think
Bugpow: Well my friends have another 600BTC on the way to gox
pgp: we got our dead cat bounce already
Scrat: i seriously think that volume figure is bogus
Bugpow: There are serious bids and asks getting destroyed right now
Bugpow: this is actually the highest volume period ever, excluding the free 48 hour period
pgp: yes, i noticed that too
gribble: buy targets: 74, 68, 54 | upper target 85-88, reversal up if we stay above 85 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 22:54 UTC ( tips:
http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer:
http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 44 minutes and 29 seconds ago
pgp: ;;eightball $32 bitcoin?
pgp: bids are evapotaing...
Bugpow: now OneFixt is talking some sense
Bugpow: too bad he told you that AFTER it dumped
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.13999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 15 @ 0.14 = 2.1 BTC [+]
OneFixt: Bugpow: i stepped out for an hour =(
gribble: There are currently 49590076 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11742910.623 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0078 seconds
gribble: There are currently 150494.7 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999999.0 USD, worth 125027833971.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 10.6874 seconds
Bugpow: coins for sale going down
pgp: man, a LOT of coin sloshing around...
pgp: low lag is such a novelty...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.484 BTC [+]
Bugpow: they must have upgraded their servers actually
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 6 @ 0.00159 = 0.0095 BTC [-]
pgp: 3day chart on bitcoinity tells the story in no uncertain terms... lower lows and lower highs...
pgp: you could almost set your watch to it...
pgp: they did upgrade their severs during the "cool down"...
pgp: problem was that they came back up with "free" trading for 2 days which killed them...
Bugpow: very happy my friends are going to get out above 80
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.484 = 1.936 BTC [+]
pgp: PSA - sell the bounce!
ThickAsThieves: it's not bad but kinda outta place with the site design
gribble: MtGox lag is 1.143437 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00229143494544 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00439999 = 4.4 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 83.47901, Best ask: 83.48000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00099, Last trade: 83.47900, 24 hour volume: 235906.16414531, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 87.05151
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00070866 = 2.1614 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.18617 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.17 = 0.51 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.152 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 347 @ 0.00070461 = 0.2445 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3498 @ 0.00069916 = 2.4457 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.41 = 0.82 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9084 @ 0.0006988 = 6.3479 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6709 @ 0.00069835 = 4.6852 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.871 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8707 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.86 = 2.58 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.83 = 4.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8261 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.826 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.826 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.00428 = 0.0128 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3091 @ 0.00069835 = 2.1586 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7259 @ 0.00069763 = 5.0641 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.41 = 2.46 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8709 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 17 @ 0.01 = 0.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.10179 = 0.509 BTC [+]
pgp: it is QUIET in here... are those crickets i hear?
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 10 @ 0.00159 = 0.0159 BTC [-]
pgp: you know, I really wish all charting products offered logarithmic scales... especially for volatile assets...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 1.22 = 6.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.22 = 4.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.22 = 4.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.22 = 3.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.19 = 2.38 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 73.20000, Best ask: 74.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.80000, Last trade: 74.00000, 24 hour volume: 244430.28357478, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 86.06528
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.88999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.89 = 5.34 BTC [+]
KRS1: somebody's fixin to buy $14K of litecoins
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.49 = 0.98 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.43000, Best ask: 74.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.47000, Last trade: 74.95000, 24 hour volume: 246451.24074112, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 85.94777
gribble: 74-80 range | buy targets: 74, 68, 54 | resistance 85-88, upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 1:06 UTC ( tips:
http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer:
http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 37 minutes and 35 seconds ago
KRS1: that thing accurate?
thestringpuller: this is not investment or trading advice <<<<< what do you think?
KRS1: thats different than the tool being accurate
KRS1: it was a simple question, didnt ask if it was good advice just if it was accurate or not
KRS1: ok cool i understand those pretty well..thanks-
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 10 hours, 7 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
splnkr: way to look, glad i heard that idea
splnkr: bitcoin atm isn't just for getting money out of your account, but also for transferring it to anyone else
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.46 = 2.76 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.36500018 = 0.73 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.049 = 4.196 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.66110001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.6611 = 6.6444 BTC [-]
pgp: getting kinda frothy out there!
pgp: pick up in volume, large market orders order on both side... market trying to decide which way it wants to go...
pgp: kinda like my kids splashing around in the bathtub... frothy...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00070213 = 9.6192 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00071199 = 0.356 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: well the gold chart makes me feel better
kakobrekla: should be added to definition of sloveny
pgp: ok, so we're at 75... poll: were are we at 24 hours from now?
KRS1: thanks to you fine people i know a bit more than i did about Slovenia and how embarrased i was to confuse it with Somalia..especially geographically.
kakobrekla: thanks to our PM id rather be in somalia
joecool: mircea_popescu: how's romania?
KRS1: Many Americans are ignorant about other countries, ours is so big many cant even name all of our states.
joecool: mircea_popescu: it's sorta a non-popular country to see on IRC
pgp: in case you didn't know, the balkan mafia runs this channel
KRS1: I do know a few things about Romania.
mircea_popescu: there;'s evenb a freenode romanian server what arte you talkin' about
KRS1: Any tourist destinations there for the Dracul interests?
joecool: yeah I know there is, I VPN there too, i assumed it was because you don't have laws or something
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.89 = 3.56 BTC [+]
joecool: i'm assuming romanians know more about americans than americans know about romanians
ThickAsThieves: romanians probly know more about americans than americans know about americans, we dumb
pgp: curiously, I have a trio of romanian developers who have worked for me for 8 years... sponsored 2 of them for h1b's... we joke about romanians in my offic all he time... in a nice way, of course...
joecool: ask an american what they think of romania, the answer will probably be around the lines of "isn't that a place where gypsies and wizards roam around?"
ThickAsThieves: my only impression of romania is that video mp showed of dudes fucking with the kid who stole the bike
KRS1: joecool: u are probably right
pgp: transylvania - that's what americans know about romania
joecool: mircea_popescu: i thought france was a muslim country now
KRS1: and the weather is always dreadful
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89899 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.89899 = 2.697 BTC [+]
KRS1: mircea popescu: i bet you can pull some bitches too
orkaa: it's finally improving here in eu
mircea_popescu: it's not dreadful. it's sort of like hm... virginia maybe.
orkaa: after 8 months of winter
joecool: well would be worse, canada is mostly cold and snow
pgp: mp: how much time did you spend abroad? did you live in the US?
kakobrekla: sure only 8 moths of winter, wasnt there like 14?
KRS1: lol joecool wizards and gypsies lol yep
KRS1: I am not far from Miami, FL we have a lot of culture here
KRS1: Cubans mostly, but a big mix of everyone..and i mean everyone
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3874 @ 0.00069763 = 2.7026 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7826 @ 0.00069745 = 5.4582 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.899 = 2.697 BTC [+]
orkaa: kakobrekla, climate is different in your secluded village
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.6611 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.661 BTC [-]
KRS1: Umm..means, a good mix of food/dancing/special interest groups of nationalities/people you will meet on the streets who could be from anywhere really..but a lot of Cubans...a lot of folks from the Caribbean..but also people from many parts of the world.
orkaa: slovenia's really nice these days
pgp: oh shit - gox taking a crap
KRS1: I have studied with students from abroad, Egypt, Japan, everywhere.
mircea_popescu: culture mostly means written shit 500 years old or older.
KRS1: It has to be written? I have learned much about food from Jamaicans, dance from Cubans, poetry from folks from the U.K..
KRS1: Music from Brazil..
mircea_popescu: yes culture has to be written. else it's maybe civilisation
KRS1: Ok I had the wrong definition of culture then..
KRS1: The Cubans make delicious food.
mircea_popescu: thuis is kinda the advantage of vbeing american/english
KRS1: Even the British? ;)
pgp: english have worst cuisine - hands down
KRS1: thats real big here mircea popescu
joecool: yeah english food is pretty bad
KRS1: really big...took someone from Brazil to help me realize most of how we prepare meat here is sweat..
ThickAsThieves: i like spicy foods (any kind of spice, not just hot), Thai, Indian, portuguese
pgp: errr, guys, i think we're gonna break 70 here....
joecool: KRS1: live without carbs for a couple months, will change entirely how you feel about sweet things
KRS1: never ate Indian food I like..
KRS1: Carbs is the one thing I can't break away from..wish I could.
pgp: carbs are killing me....
joecool: eh it's like a drug, there's a withdrawal from it, but then it doesn't matter
orkaa: i'll have to treat myself with a horse burger soon
KRS1: I need to try to get over that hump.
dub: ThickAsThieves: was it you that linked thugkitchen.com?
dub: if not, good vegan food blog
dub: kakobrekla: read teh blog anywya
KRS1: wow...i gotta hit teh google on that one
pgp: vegan = higher risk of cancer - recent study...
ThickAsThieves: look up proportion of meat eaten in a country compared to cancer levels
pgp: i guess my crystal ball isn't broken afterall...
ThickAsThieves: i will say that for some reason lately ive had trouble with energy, vegan and 3 hrs sleep isnt working :/
orkaa: just saw a guy on reddit had one
joecool: probably your insulin levels going fucking mad
joecool: riding that rollercoaster all day
dub: now she gets a little sausage erryday?
joecool: ! awesome, romania has slavery still
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 66.10000, Best ask: 66.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.70000, Last trade: 66.10000, 24 hour volume: 275365.83424234, 24 hour low: 66.55000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 84.22094
dub: I had some proper prosciutto recently, almost couldnt take it
dub: and I'll eat anything
dub: home cured, never beeen near regrigeration
joecool: well the being vegan part won't kill you, the cancer you get from it will
dub: pretty much scraping maggots off it to eat
pgp: ;;eightball is ThickAsThieves REALLY a vegan?
dub: ThickAsThieves: have you seen the tofu meat replacement shitchina comes out with?
dub: 'vegetarian pork chops' etc
dub: they take tofu and flavour the shit out of it with nuclear waste
orkaa: but you have to deep fry it to be eatable
dub: try using it in baking
pgp: My wife like tofu - show's up on the dinner table now and again
dub: gf hates tofu but I sneak it in here and there
pgp: the food of freedom?
KRS1: pgp: so you never really have to eat out huh ;)
KRS1: your comment about tofu-
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.08 = 4.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.08 = 2.16 BTC [+]
orkaa: have you seen the nasty pics?
orkaa: might be better, yep
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.5 = 2 BTC [+]
dub: mircea_popescu: never watched a beheading vid?
joecool: boston fails it so hard, they shut down the city for lite brights, not even bother to check for bombs -_-
dub: the satanists eating girl scene LOL
joecool: not dead, grabbing leg stub though
dub: yeah the monkey brains thing is real
pgp: boston photos are fucked up...
dub: meh, go look up some shit from whereve 'murica has started a war
pgp: the dude sans leg is brutal...
ThickAsThieves: ok see i thought i saw all kindsa blood on the ground on the news, i was like did someone explode?
joecool: heh this would be business as usual in israel
jcpham: Taking a beating today
joecool: ThickAsThieves: aljazeera thought it was a gas main explosion
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 274 @ 0.00069745 = 0.1911 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.00069735 = 0.7322 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7374 @ 0.00069447 = 5.121 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3202 @ 0.0006941 = 2.2225 BTC [-]
orkaa: so no terrorists took responsibility yet?
Diablo-D3: orkaa: Im thinking it was home grown
ThickAsThieves: they said something about a dark man trying to access secure area
dub: inb4 gun nuts protesting 2nd ammendment shit
dub: africanised killer bees
dub: no niggers in boston
Diablo-D3: SOUNDS LIKE AN AVERAGE BOSTONIAN TO ME
joecool: dub: they call them haitians, they drive the taxis
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.51899 BTC [+]
joecool: this is what it's like in bawston
Diablo-D3: and the news WAS reporting a third bomb at the jfk library
joecool: plenty of nigs in murderpan
dub: Diablo-D3: like hte plane that hit the pentagon
joecool: this is why the red line is disconnected from there
Diablo-D3: dub: fucking supernigger hijacked a cruise missile or some shit
orkaa: kakobrekla, it sure is dark
ThickAsThieves: in southie, they actually have flyers in shops for bareknuckle boxing matches, or at least they used to...
joecool: haven't had a lot of time in southie, mostly back bay
orkaa: btw, poor north korea, they're off the headlines today
joecool: went drinking in southie a few times, it's like full-retard boston
ThickAsThieves: rented an attic room from a single mom who smoked pot in her bathroom
joecool: pretty much hated the time i was there, hate the city, hate that it shuts down pretty much at midnight, hate the people, hate the accent, yeah all pretty horrible
joecool: only plus side is you can actually walk, it's pretty small
pipeline: not every big city has bad commuting
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.519 = 1.557 BTC [+]
joecool: but i guess there could be worse, boston is low on my list of cities to drive in
joecool: but it's not philly or montreal bad
pipeline: i would rather drive in philly
pipeline: at least if i had an armored car
pipeline: the traffic in philly is pleasant by comparison
pipeline: and the roads more or less are straight, not cow-paths from the 16th century
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89899 BTC [-]
joecool: well yeah armored car in philly is a good idea
joecool: those roads defy all logic and science
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.00065 = 0.13 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 142 @ 0.000689 = 0.0978 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 696 @ 0.00069 = 0.4802 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 129 @ 0.000691 = 0.0891 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000695 = 0.0695 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 182 @ 0.000697 = 0.1269 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 18 @ 0.000698 = 0.0126 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 704 @ 0.000698 = 0.4914 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.0007 = 0.0014 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 394 @ 0.000709 = 0.2793 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000709 = 0.0709 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00071 = 0.071 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1500 @ 0.000712 = 1.068 BTC [+]
joecool: just don't make the mistake of hopping into camden at night
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 588 @ 0.000714 = 0.4198 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.00073 = 0.0219 BTC [+]
joecool: that's a city they should just burn to the ground
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.000746 = 0.0373 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000747 = 0.0224 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.00075 = 0.0015 BTC [+]
joecool: easier to build a replacement
orkaa: hm, i should go to sleep
orkaa: i can hear the morning busses
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 80 @ 0.00079 = 0.0632 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 8 @ 0.00081 = 0.0065 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 41 @ 0.00081 = 0.0332 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00089 = 0.089 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 8 @ 0.0009 = 0.0072 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.00096 = 0.048 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 8 @ 0.00097 = 0.0078 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.001 = 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 182 @ 0.00364763 = 0.6639 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: now that people see the inevitable coming up to meet them
Bugpowder: the last bubble chart is very clear
Bugpowder: people will probably try to front run it
kakobrekla: also the pullback might be slightly faster
ThickAsThieves: i think there are a lot of people waiting for the bottom
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3312 @ 0.00071199 = 2.3581 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4970 @ 0.0006941 = 3.4497 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10330 @ 0.00069311 = 7.1598 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: remember, the psychological perspective of immediate post-pop last time was probably very similar to what we naturally are thinking now
Bugpowder: we need to think like the people 3 weeks after the pop
gribble: MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
dub: gox right click unfucked the lag eh
gribble: looking for retracement to 86 | buy targets: 74, 68, 54 | resistance 85-88, upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 1:44 UTC ( tips:
http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer:
http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 1 hour, 44 minutes, and 48 seconds ago
kakobrekla: Bugpowder thats prolly somewhat true but certain conditions have changed
kakobrekla: is one of the reasons why its going down faster
jcpham: so what did gox do to fix the lag
jcpham: Or did everyone just give up?
dub: jcpham: new hardware, higher min trade, trade rate limits
Bugpowder: dub oh? higher min trade and rate limits?
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 16 @ 0.00421 = 0.0674 BTC [+]
dub: Bugpowder: yeah according to that neofutur shill
joecool: well new hardware didn't do shit tbh, rate limiting and putting a check to stop people bidding with empty wallets seemed to help
joecool: everything they do is crappy bandaid solutions
dub: I dont thing the balance check is in yet
joecool: support has a 3 day backlog, verifications has ~2 week backlog
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.519 = 7.266 BTC [+]
joecool: i'm guessing they spent a good amount of money on pizza parties and don't have enough to fund all deposits
Bugpowder: luckily wire transfers out have 0 backlong
joecool: so it's a cycle of sweating and eating pizza
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.89899 = 1.798 BTC [-]
dub: tux collection of diamond 20 sided dice
Bugpowder: I just bought 2500 magic cards for some used 5850s
dub: and gold leafe yugio cards
kakobrekla: dunno a friend of mine has been waiting sepa withdrawal 3 weeks now from gox
joecool: i tell them it's a 50/50 on whether they will be successful or in jail in a year
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.899 = 9.889 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: they are saying they are capped out at the polish bank iirc
Bugpowder: well they seem to have their shit together with US intl wire, at least for bofa
Bugpowder: what banks DON'T WANT you to wire them money?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.89998 = 3.5999 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: basically you can't initiate a sepa wire except from an european bank or subsidiary
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.89999 = 8.0999 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Bugpowder's investment return plot
dub: kinda want to sell here and rebuy but thsi asshole is gonna trap me
Bugpowder: It has been shown that if you make a guess, pause, reconsider, then make a second guess, then average those two guesses, you are more accurate
Bugpowder: the average beats both the first or second guess, even if you have the same information
Bugpowder: I told them all to sell this morning.
Bugpowder: dub I think there will be a bounce
dub: it will be right after I sell
Bugpowder: you never want to sell after a selloff has been going for quite a while
Bugpowder: but I would exit on the next sustained up move
jcpham: That doesn't sound fun at all
dub: yes officer, this dude named after tim leary's herion metaphore on the internet gave me trading advice
jcpham: I did my ten percent metal thing this morning closer to 100
jcpham: Still waiting on the big bubble
jcpham: I think dub's phonetic is more
kakobrekla: well luke will be reasonably priced soon
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: we're selling luke? to who?
kakobrekla: id get rid of him for free, but his coins are 25$ a pop
dub: I suspect you'd have to pay to have him taken away
dub: expecially now his loyal mouth breathing fanbase is realising what a spineless piece of shit he really is
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assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.15999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 42 @ 0.00085 = 0.0357 BTC [-]
pgp: happening faster than i thought...
pgp: bp: what do you think?
gribble: There are currently 119758.3 bitcoins demanded at or over 31.0 USD, worth 5378138.64252 USD in total. | Data vintage: 76.0023 seconds
pgp: thought I was going to bed, but... not now!
Bugpowder: combo should really be posting funny shit on the way down too
pgp: how bout that ... new low... a little sooner than I expected, but hey...
gribble: MtGox lag is 4.718365 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00945555063055 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Saturn to its largest moon, Titan (0.00802 AU).
Bugpowder: ThickAsThieves: 70 might be a bit rich actually… People will definitely want to buy at 50, but at 69? At 69 people are probably counting their blessings that they can sell the bounce.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder you're making the mistake of thinking "people" are like you.
mircea_popescu: the vast majority of bitcvoin holders don't give a shit what the price is.
Bugpowder: I have made very few mistakes tonight
Bugpowder: and the vast majority are in a panic
mircea_popescu: the 1% or so bitcoins that are held by noobs really don't matter in any serious discussion.
Bugpowder: are you talking people or talking total bitcoins
Bugpowder: half the top 500 addresses didn't move during the whole bubble
mircea_popescu: buncha noobs got tjhemselves into a tizzy. nobody really caresd.
Bugpowder: but if they didn't move on the way up or the way down, they aren't participating in the market
mircea_popescu: the mtgox "market" is very decoupled from economic reality, as it happens.
Bugpowder: and my goal is to make $ and coins from the price movement
mircea_popescu: i don't imagine a recoupling is ever likely at any rate.
mircea_popescu: i know your goal is to try and speculate, but this makes you not part of bitcoin in any meaningful sense.
Bugpowder: hence, the people that are market participants are the people I'm thinking about, since they are pushing the price around.
deadweasel: i'd rather be profitable than be part of something in a meaningful sense.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder meaningful, as in having a price signal. you're currently unable to make any sort of judgement as to what bitcoin price should be other than "what are others thinking"
mircea_popescu: the only problem is that it doesn't work longterm. might as well play s.dice.
deadweasel: i agree. but for some reason this has worked out better.
Bugpowder: I think economic activity associated with bitcoin currently supports a price of ~30
mircea_popescu: well, that's the nature of chance. sometimes it works.
mircea_popescu: conversely, the nature of people is to infer patterns in chance.
Bugpowder: and we will see an undershoot on that
Bugpowder: based on the stability of price at around 15 pre-bubble, and the growth in bitcoin infrastructure since then
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1833 @ 0.00070824 = 1.2982 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7618 @ 0.00071 = 5.4088 BTC [+]
dub: ;;calc [ticker --vol]*[ticker --avg]
mircea_popescu: let's look at this past week (dear lord, it is ONE WEEK) from a macro perspective. buncha noobs poured 20-25 mn into the fiat/btc exchanges. miners took out a few mn of that, exchanges took out a few mn out of that too as fees.
dub: ;;calc [ticker --vol]*[ticker --last]
Bugpowder: and from a long term EV perspective, buying at 260 is still positive
mircea_popescu: probably. if by long term one means more than a year or a few.
mircea_popescu: dub most of the trades count as wash trades in this perspective.
Bugpowder: IFF you don't consider future buy in
mircea_popescu: we're talking net inflows, the fact someone makes bets worth 10 btc on s.dice doesn't mean he has bet a total over 1 btc
Bugpowder: If you are ignoring volatility and bubble formation and popping, (which was obvious both during and in hindsight) then you may be making an EV positive play, but it is far far far from the best EV + play.
KRS1: that all sounds very positive to me
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder in the end it all boils down to "it's an -ev game" and "everybody thinks they're special".
KRS1: wow i've learned a thing or two since i've been here
Bugpowder: I maintain that luck has a huge role to play here
mircea_popescu: i wonder if their concrete prefab building can take it.
Bugpowder: although my brain tells my that I must be more skilled than the market
Bugpowder: I wouldn't believe it if this was a mature financial market
mircea_popescu: it is a bounty of information and case study for actual economical discussion however.
mircea_popescu: for instance : the common wisdom is that capital controls help volatile macrofinancial situations.
mircea_popescu: well... mtgox is the most extreme case of capital controls i've ever seen implemented.
deadweasel: we actually make very few decisions with our conscious mind. our unconscious makes the decision and the consciousness creates a story around it make so it feels special about 'making' the decision.
Bugpowder: but the seductive argument is that the current state of bitcoin pricing is based on new market participants with little experience, and by using information asymmetries, like spending 12 hours a day on #bitcoin-assets, I can beat them.
mircea_popescu: leaving aside the quite typical cypriot failure mode of capital controls (ie, corruption), it still doesn't work.
deadweasel: so if you know a subject well enough and long enough (10,000 hours i think), the instinct can be correct when you're conciously not sure.
deadweasel: yeah, but it's how we work ALL the time.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder i always suspected the "fight" or "Game" representation of markets is an artefact of the american mind and has nothing to do with market reality.
ThickAsThieves: also consider that the market price is manifesting itself from people doing what they think other people think people are doing
Bugpowder: I wonder how that guy that quit his job to play 10000 hours of golf is doing.
Bugpowder: ThickAsThieves: I would argue though that the dynamics of bubble formation and popping have such similarities that there must be common stages of collective emotion that drive them
Bugpowder: and label it with descriptors of emotion
ThickAsThieves: right but knowing what a bubble looks like, allows us to construct it
mircea_popescu: this is like saying knowing what democracy looks like we can now construct it.
mircea_popescu: 1. we don't really know what it looks like ; 2 we've never constructed it.
Bugpowder: maybe democracy is harder to construct than a spec bubble
Bugpowder: takes higher order thinking, reasoning debate
Bugpowder: bubbles are just raw emotion driven asset valuation
ThickAsThieves: the speculators note that when i bubble pops, this and that happens, making it much more confident behaior
Bugpowder: ThickAsThieves: I certainly have used the last bitcoin bubble chart to inform my position for this one.
Bugpowder: just, when you personally manifest it, be early :)
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder "I can calculate the motions of the heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people."
mircea_popescu: such as, airplanes were made in the 1900s. ants are still not made.
ThickAsThieves: i do think we'll strike an anomaly against the bubble template
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves to put it simply : the more close to common thought you are, the less likely it is to be correct. the further out you are the higher chances for you to be wrong. this is how thinking about bubbles works.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.95 = 2.85 BTC [+]
ezdiy: also '' Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one. ,,
ezdiy: however this line thinking is actually useless to quantify bubless, because you can get the shape right
ezdiy: but never the timescale :(
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 19 hours, 46 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Bugpowder: ezdiy: yup, that's why averaging out and averaging in are useful concepts
Bugpowder: but you can tell you are probably in a bubble and peel off some gains on the way up
mircea_popescu: i think statistically the difference between the strategy of averaging in and the strategy of timing the top
mircea_popescu: is the same as the difference between the strategy of martingale and the strategy of playing s.dice
ThickAsThieves: mp, re: common thought, isn't it a different situation when the very game IS common thought (speculation)
mircea_popescu: actually the proof of this would be a huge step forward in economic theory.
Bugpowder: I think it boils down to psychology
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i'm always wary when someone proposes something is different from something else.
mircea_popescu: we just don't have that many different things available.
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: martingale is for truly iniform random walk
ThickAsThieves: speculation is being at the front of the herd, rather than the back, where the wolves are
Bugpowder: If you give someone a 50/50 chance of making $1,000,000 or a 100% change of maki ng $500,000, unless they already have many million in the bank, they will invariably pick the sure bet.
Bugpowder: similar thing in settlement negotiations
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder also someone will tend to represent a 49/51 chance as a 33/66 chance and a 1/99 chance as a 0/100 chance.
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 19 hours, 50 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
Bugpowder: well, taleb may be restating our ideas
mircea_popescu: well... the old black swan. 'it never happened therefore it's impossible" fallacy.
Bugpowder: in settlement negation, client management and selection is essential for optimizing firm revenue under contingency model
Bugpowder: You want a client that already is rich
ezdiy: Bugpowder: until you're overrun by competition which caters to long trail :)
Bugpowder: so when a defendant finally raises the settlement offer from 1MM to $10MM, the client doesn't piss himself and take the money
BitHub: come join us at #oracles&rogues where we perform miracle readings and premonitions
ezdiy: moar crystal balls, yay
BitHub: yes but this one is lulz
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder this is incidentally why i never raise offers. i make an offer. any further discussion is met with a deduction from the offer.
mircea_popescu: works with women, too. ask her out. she fails to accept... well... he'll have to work at it next time.
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: i'm afraid this is not universally acceptable *g*
Bugpowder: you need a client that can say, fuck 100% at 10MM, let's try for the 30% shot at 100MM
ezdiy: try that with any self-respecting woman
ezdiy: or human, for that matter lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00071 = 7.597 BTC [+]
BitHub: is the site issues all good now mircea?
BitHub: well the ddos bs, same guy as gox?
ezdiy: well, generally works with doormats of all walks of life
BitHub: i only trust asicminer
Bugpowder: There is a lot of truth in 'The Game'
Bugpowder: of course, you must be savvy enough to adapt it to your own style
Bugpowder: and now deal with everyone know about The Game
BitHub: better off reading robert greene books tho
ezdiy: Bugpowder: in it's core, it's artificial price inflation
ezdiy: Bugpowder: youre making scarce something which is in reality not scarce at all
ezdiy: smart women realize that :)
BitHub: read his art of seduction
Bugpowder: which is tricky, because doing the meta-game game usually doesn't not go well.
Bugpowder: I read all this shit when it was just on that web forum
mircea_popescu: they're the only ones that can go yes or no on the first presentation and stick to it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00070023 = 0.9103 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: I went from having NO women, to 2 hot girlfriends at the same time
Bugpowder: although a part of my integrity died
Bugpowder: I was not ready for that at 20 yr old
BitHub: have you developed your inner game yet?
mircea_popescu: girls don't mind eating a girl out once they figure out it's safe.
BitHub: don't listen to mircea when it comes to girls
BitHub: probably hasn't been with one for a while
ezdiy: BitHub: why not? this sort of talk leads to guys one-upping each other
BitHub: maybe im neggin him ;)
BitHub: or that alpha male technique thingy
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: awww. are we negging? :)
ezdiy: /insert relevant xkcd/
BitHub: heh better ban yourself then
BitHub: just run off with peoples bits yeah?
BitHub: but at the end of the day right its a numbers game
BitHub: either you like daddy, or piss off
BitHub: new girls turning 18 every day
ezdiy: depends on what youre looking for
ezdiy: till 25, people are looking just for a cheap fuck
BitHub: you know why people get gf's and wives etc
BitHub: because they're poor and scared to die alone
ezdiy: BitHub: whats worse, there are rich people who die alone
BitHub: work on your bank account
Bugpowder: 1) positive influence on life, 2) understanding, 3) having kids
Scrat: disregard bitches, acquire satoshi
mircea_popescu: heh. i guess the rebellious youth of these days no longer reads sartre & co huh.
Bugpowder: those would be my top 3 reasons for a wife, in some order.
BitHub: anyway my point is, be a man and work on making money
Scrat: b-b-but im still a poor beta fag
Scrat: t-t-thanks bitcoin-assets
Bugpowder: but you gotta be good at something
ezdiy: BitHub: not much money needed actually
BitHub: ezdiy at last 1 million
ezdiy: BitHub: it might come as a surprise, but shallow women are mostly interested int *things*
mircea_popescu: because more girls need a good whipping than need money at all.
ezdiy: ie visible signs of social status
ezdiy: ie piss poor, but a good car
BitHub: anyway lil off topic, i actually really enjoy all the different bitcoin assets
BitHub: any good ipo's coming up? i'm only feeling asicminer at the moment
Scrat: it will rox your sox off
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i thought he was getting out of brokering ?
Bugpowder: he probably should if he locks you up for weeks
BitHub: scam me and i'll you tho
ThickAsThieves: BitHub, do you realize that you're repeatedly looking for confirmation that ASICminer shares are a good buy?
ezdiy: self-assuring circle jerks are a good thing
BitHub: well name another asset then
Scrat: BitHub: well, not yet released
BitHub: should i put all my btc into ziggap?
BitHub: or maybe should i put all my btc into BAKEDwell
ThickAsThieves: you should be looking for reliable stocks that are tied to USD
BitHub: i praise asicminer because its a legit asset
Bugpowder: ZIGZAP, BAKEWELL distressed assets and litecoin.
BitHub: i want to get your guys opinions on good and trusthworth bitcoin companies that are floating assets
ThickAsThieves: asicminer may be the most stable, but you are essentially locking yourself in to BTC/USD value
BitHub: so during these times of suicides, isn't it better to be collecting divs? and the demand for stable asset is there, so alot of people pumping, allowing you to golden parachute out later when btc price picks up again?
ThickAsThieves: you really think divs will outweigh your loss in BTC/USD value?
Bugpowder: but you really need that betting volume to pickup
mircea_popescu: @DalaiLama It’s unrealistic to think that the future of humanity can be achieved only on the basis of prayer, what we need is to take action.
mircea_popescu: i guess another religion confronts its intellectual bankruptcy.
pgp: I agreed SDICE is the a defensive USD/BTC play
Bugpowder: I think calling that guy a 'whale' is being a little generous.
Bugpowder: I'd restrict whales to someone with proven 10k btc in a set of addresses and is hammering s.dice for bets of >100BTC for long stretches.
pgp: interesting to note that at bitfinex, they have changed margin rules - they use to offer 5x - I guess that didn't work out so good for them... they still have 400k lent out in margin, but at an average annual rate of ONLY 84% - used to be consistently over 300%... Sentiment indicator?
pgp: i'll be they go smoked trying to liquidate some margin accounts....
mircea_popescu: they are using the bitcoinica codebase they've stolen ffs.
mircea_popescu: what more ? what more could one do to be untrustworthy ?
Namworld: Well as long as someone can fix the security issues of the script (unless funds were actually stolen by the admin)... although it casts some serious doubts about the safety of such a thing.
mircea_popescu: currently bitcoin contains this throng of idiots who literally have no standard.
mircea_popescu: if you go by them there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING one can do to fuck up.
mircea_popescu: this will ensure bitcoin's failure on the long term if allowed to continue.
mircea_popescu: there must be standards, and if those standards are breached the person must be dead.
mircea_popescu: there's currently absolutely nothing jared kenna can do to become a bitcoin business person again.
Namworld: I didn't say it was good, I said it COULD be possible to reuse some failed codebase if someone fixed it. Not that I think this is likely to have occured.
mircea_popescu: the bitcoinica victims, one of their avenues to recover something of their lost money
Namworld: yeah but that's not happening regardless, does it?
mircea_popescu: doesn't seem likely. i have no idea who'd fix ror code.
Namworld: Maybe I should read more about these cases, but I can't care enough to go and do it.
kakobrekla: "young enterpreneurs and still learning their business"
mircea_popescu: on your teeth motherfucker. this is okay. because most retards are tauight how to write and nothing else, then given internet access.
Namworld: Honestly, if someone is going to make an exchange or anything without much experience, make it clear BTC withdrawals will take a long time to process. Because there won't be a hotwallet.
kakobrekla: the tx is 'pending confirmation' for days now
pgp: holding up fiat is just plain bad business...
pgp: BTC, expecially large amounts, i understand. Do you prefer convenience or security?
pgp: got a little longer overnight - scale seller over 65 methinks
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.83501 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.835 BTC [-]
pgp: gox 24h volume at 547k... that's HUGE...
gribble: jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 hours, 2 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <jurov> no wonder everyone uses ;;next
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.24999998 BTC [+]
pgp: future fiat exchange will need blessing of govt and prolly a banking license to be truly succesful
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1118 @ 0.00071387 = 0.7981 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6682 @ 0.00071 = 4.7442 BTC [-]
pgp: friendly jurisdictions like panama, malta, gibralter, costa rica, even
BitHub: let me know about teh asset
deadweasel_work: are we going to bounce around this week and still return to 30$?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.00100, Best ask: 59.92000, Bid-ask spread: 0.91900, Last trade: 59.89000, 24 hour volume: 547666.44717794, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 98.22700, 24 hour vwap: 68.89155
gribble: 57-58 support | resistance: 70, 77, 85-88 | upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | highest targets 111-113 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 10:40 UTC ( tips:
http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer:
http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 2 hours, 7 minutes, and 48 seconds ago
Namworld: I'd be surprised 50 is the bottom
Namworld: Also I don't understand how this support/resistance is calculated...
gribble: There are currently 130246.66 bitcoins demanded at or over 30.0 USD, worth 5550385.33549 USD in total. | Data vintage: 8.8607 seconds
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 90.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 19.9924 seconds
gribble: There are currently 51116.173 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 3911649.1496 USD in total. | Data vintage: 32.4811 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.29001, Best ask: 59.66249, Bid-ask spread: 0.37248, Last trade: 59.66249, 24 hour volume: 547741.83685989, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 98.22700, 24 hour vwap: 68.88007
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.47000001 = 1.41 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.47 = 0.94 BTC [-]
gribble: 57-58 support | resistance: 70, 77, 85-88 | upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | highest targets 111-113 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 10:40 UTC ( tips:
http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer:
http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 2 hours, 15 minutes, and 16 seconds ago
ThickAsThieves: 14 hours ago: There are currently 35974.547 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD
gribble: There are currently 68671.866 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 5613040.35424 USD in total. | Data vintage: 63.7432 seconds
Bugpowder: deadweasel: I suspect we could bounce as high as 90 in the next few days, but also expect to see 30 or below sometime in the next 3
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.09001 BTC [-]
Namworld: We've accumulated a nice 68k BTC asks under 100 USD/BTC. It keeps raising, bids keeps lowering. Looks like mostly people cashing out right now.
gribble: There are currently 33142.458 bitcoins demanded at or over 49.9 USD, worth 1740332.85768 USD in total. | Data vintage: 89.1672 seconds
gribble: A market order to sell 20000 bitcoins right now would net 1080445.3355 USD and would take the last price down to 51.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 54.0223 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 115.8273 seconds
gribble: A market order to sell 30000 bitcoins right now would net 1585346.9489 USD and would take the last price down to 50.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 52.8449 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0009 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.45 = 0.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.445 = 0.89 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.441 = 0.882 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.44 = 1.76 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: similar level of bids were there when I went to bed
ThickAsThieves: so 50 would only be bottom if no one dodges falling price
Bugpowder: got cleaned out then bounced to 66 in the space of 3 hours
Bugpowder: deadweasel_work: yes. That's really the only thing I'm going on here.
error4733: when you try to compare with 2011 bubble, dont forget MTgox hack ! less than a week after crash
Namworld: well we've had lots of bounce. People each time hoped for a quick rise back so they could sell their BTC they bought at a premium.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00195 BTC [-]
pgp: i agree, though I think we could break out here to upper 60's
Bugpowder: when it was going up, buy the dips, buy calls
Bugpowder: when its going down, wait it out, or take short term long positions on sharp selloffs, selling the bounce, if you must trade
ThickAsThieves: we'll plateau or slight slope until buying/volume subsides, then dumping will resume
Bugpowder: The beatings will continue until morale improves
Scrat: ;;eightball will we stabilize
gribble: What are you asking me for?
Namworld: ;;eightball Will we see 40 USD/BTC in less than 24 hours?
Scrat: if I were filthy rich I'd make a bot that trades based on gribble's eightball, just for kicks
Namworld: He must have confused 40 for something else
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.89701, Best ask: 59.91000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01299, Last trade: 59.91000, 24 hour volume: 549138.33281102, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 98.22700, 24 hour vwap: 68.83756
ThickAsThieves: ;;gribble If you gave 3 wishes, could I wish for more wishes?
gribble: yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
ThickAsThieves: ;;eightball If you gave 3 wishes, could I wish for more wishes?
error4733: ;;eightball will satoshi come back ?
error4733: ;;eightball will satoshi say it was a big joke ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.05000003 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00070758 = 6.0498 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.0007028 = 4.8493 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.0006965 = 0.9751 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00069512 = 1.8421 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.09 = 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.07201 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 35 @ 0.06 = 2.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5139 @ 0.00071387 = 3.6686 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00421 = 0.0211 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 61.00102, Best ask: 61.69899, Bid-ask spread: 0.69797, Last trade: 61.00102, 24 hour volume: 552465.69282423, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 98.22700, 24 hour vwap: 68.74805
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.00377 = 0.0754 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 61.49999, Best ask: 61.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 61.49999, 24 hour volume: 553160.98601480, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 98.22700, 24 hour vwap: 68.72244
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 60 @ 0.0036 = 0.216 BTC [-]
pgp: all this 0.01 shit on the gox book is ridiculous...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5087 @ 0.00071387 = 3.6315 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4312 @ 0.00071404 = 3.0789 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.88 = 4.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.89999 = 2.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.851 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.01 = 10 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1060 @ 0.01 = 10.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.86 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.855 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [-]
pgp: if it clearly 60's, there's a pretty good shot at upper 70's , i think
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.83 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8222 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.81003 = 4.0502 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.81002 = 4.0501 BTC [-]
pgp: there are cycles within cycles...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.81 = 8.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.8 = 12 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8 = 1.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.792 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.79101 = 9.4921 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.79101 = 2.373 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 0.791 = 23.73 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.790001 = 5.53 BTC [-]
Namworld: anyone selling better priced PUTs?
pgp: they are impossibly priced - all put > 1 by bot
Namworld: although at half the strike value, they're worth 1 BTC already...
Namworld: best puts are in the money at 32 USD/BTC
mircea_popescu: pgp 1 is a max for calls, it has no particular relaiton to puts.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 60.97661, Best ask: 61.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.52339, Last trade: 61.84948, 24 hour volume: 562839.81439493, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 97.69000, 24 hour vwap: 68.46823
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P050T] 5 @ 1.080704 = 5.4035 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00069802 = 3.4901 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C062N] 3 @ 0.80630438 = 2.4189 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00069512 = 3.8927 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8007 @ 0.00069311 = 5.5497 BTC [-]
pgp: mp: i understand that puts can be > 1, but if you look at it from a USD perspective all the put are guranteed losers, right?
pgp: am i right in assuming that O.USD.P050T is "best" put right now?
ThickAsThieves: the one with the lowest break even i suppose would be the "safest"
pgp: lowest implied vol? just want to walk through an example
mircea_popescu: ok, let's try the example then. [MPEX] [O.USD.P050T] 5 @ 1.080704 = 5.4035 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if you atm have 5.4035 btc, their value is whatever, 300 bucks.
mircea_popescu: if you keep it as btc and btc goes to $6, you have 30 bucks. so from a fiat perspective lost 90% of your fortune.
mircea_popescu: if you trade it for puts and btc goes to $6, you now have 44/6 * 5 = 35 btc or so.
mircea_popescu: even if you count those at $6 each, it's hardly a loser compared to 30 bucks.
pgp: no way to win in fiat terms
mircea_popescu: this is something we've been discussing at length yest i thought ?
pgp: look at the trade in the sense that I start in fiat and end in fiat - guaranteed loser
mircea_popescu: as far as the bot is concerned, bitcoin is a dead horse it would seem.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00063 = 0.0013 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 8 @ 0.00062 = 0.005 BTC [-]
pgp: if we used your prices, converted to USD and computed like convention option in USD, all puts are guaranteed losers...
mircea_popescu: more like "nothing that goes from 20 to 260 and then down to 60 has a future"
mircea_popescu: which, on the strength of that alone, i find difficult to contest
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.0042 = 0.063 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 14 @ 0.00421 = 0.0589 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 157 @ 0.004285 = 0.6727 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: bot is an instrument in the volatility game, yet goes to bed when things get volatile
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 52 @ 0.004287 = 0.2229 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: yes. just like the guy on first base is an instrument in the game of baseball
mircea_popescu: yet he leaves the field once somebody takes out a machete.
jborkl: micrea_popescu can you clear a deposit
mircea_popescu: one of the key factors eveeryone has to consider when promoting idiocy,
mircea_popescu: whether it's pirate idiocy like gigavps did, or price idiocy like keiser & co did, or simple technical idiocy like pushing tradehill or coinbase etc :
ThickAsThieves: like you said, we already discussed this, so I shouldnt beat the dead horse, but in the end the bot is flawed
mircea_popescu: we are looking into it, but overall it's a difficult argument.
guruvan: I wouldn't let most any of my own automated trader bots trade in this market
mircea_popescu: the chief idea here is that mechanisms that exist to make this a market, and serious, and worth money, and respectable,
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as people behave idiotically they have not the right to functioning mechanisms, nor are entitled to actual service.
guruvan: swing machetes made of USD around wildly in the air
mircea_popescu: i guess the one most bitter lesson btc will force down people's throats is that elusive personal responsibility thing.
mircea_popescu: that conservatives always roil about and socialists keep pretending to have never quite heard of.
guruvan: maybe the bot should tweet
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 90 @ 0.2 = 18 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 18 @ 0.2 = 3.6 BTC
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.861 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: 17:22.30 ( coinmaster ) [MtGox] BTC 66.920 USD (-1.280 USD)
kakobrekla: 17:22.34 ( coinmaster ) [Stamp] BTC 74.780 USD (+0.780 USD)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.80101 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.801 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.790301 = 3.9515 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7903 = 1.5806 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7903 = 1.5806 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.790233 = 2.3707 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.790202 = 3.951 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7902 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7901 = 3.9505 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.79 = 7.11 BTC [-]
gribble: MtGox lag is 8.284369 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0166017827196 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin one full loop along the orbit of the Moon around Earth (0.016 AU).
gribble: MtGox lag is 2.067305 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0041428560733 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
bgupta: feels ddos-like since sites other mtgox are acting wonky
joecool: that's the upgraded hardware
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.13370, Best ask: 71.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06629, Last trade: 71.30500, 24 hour volume: 599982.61592459, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 96.41990, 24 hour vwap: 68.47706
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1551 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 4 @ 0.2 = 0.8 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 1 @ 0.2 BTC
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.00000, Best ask: 77.19000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 77.00000, 24 hour volume: 604694.37166289, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 96.35000, 24 hour vwap: 68.48964
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00365 = 7.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00365001 = 3.65 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00355003 = 3.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 15 @ 0.2 = 3 BTC
KRS-1: looking much better
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC
pgp: 24h volume is 614k on gox - my, my, that's a lot of coin
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.14399 BTC [-]
Namworld: pgp: I have traded over 2500 BTC on ~250 BTC...
Namworld: 614k is probably less than actual BTC traded, probably a good chunk of back and forth
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.43 = 1.72 BTC [+]
gribble: 57-58 support | resistance: 70, 77, 85-88 | upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | highest targets 111-113 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 10:40 UTC ( tips:
http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer:
http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 5 hours, 39 minutes, and 17 seconds ago
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.14399 BTC [-]
gribble: 57-58 support | resistance: 70, 77, 85-88 | upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | highest targets 111-113 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 10:40 UTC ( tips:
http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer:
http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 5 hours, 44 minutes, and 6 seconds ago
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.00000, Best ask: 75.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 75.00000, 24 hour volume: 619256.52243863, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 95.99999, 24 hour vwap: 68.57269
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.14399 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2112 @ 0.0036 = 7.6032 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00350001 = 3.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 13 @ 0.2 = 2.6 BTC
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i just switched that video to 2.30 or smth
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC
jcpham: cats in heat murdering each other
jcpham: marvin gaye after that
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 28254.964 bitcoins offered at or under 89.9 USD, worth 2384060.18064 USD in total. | Data vintage: 34.7650 seconds
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 46.6460 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00340001 = 3.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 4 @ 0.2 = 0.8 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3740 @ 0.00069482 = 2.5986 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.14001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 24685.39 bitcoins offered at or under 89.9 USD, worth 2107078.45197 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0031 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 80.25100, Best ask: 80.44815, Bid-ask spread: 0.19715, Last trade: 80.44815, 24 hour volume: 629746.79613590, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 95.90000, 24 hour vwap: 68.70007
gribble: 57-58 support | resistance: 70, 77, 85-88 | upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 | highest targets 111-113 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 10:40 UTC ( tips:
http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer:
http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 6 hours, 7 minutes, and 6 seconds ago
gribble: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
Bugpowder: it was just a temporary setback guys
Namworld: ;;eightball Will price go down to 40 USD/BTC today?
gribble: The answer is certainly yes.
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.17999 BTC [+]
Namworld: 100% cashed out... sounds like me
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.18 = 0.36 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: need to cash out the proceeds from the call sales
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1885 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 6 @ 0.19 = 1.14 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 100 @ 0.19 = 19 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.37 = 3.7 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 20219.645 bitcoins offered at or under 89.9 USD, worth 1753446.30424 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0031 seconds
Bugpowder: I just wish I hadn't sold what I picked up at 52 and 51 last night
Bugpowder: good trade needs good entry, check, good exit, FAIL.
gribble: MtGox lag is 18.6353 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0373449325488 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
Bugpowder: OK. Final Ponzi Plot update. Future updates will start from $1 again.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00069482 = 2.7793 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: there's a bunch of people looking to verbally invest into btc
mircea_popescu: i wonder what's the headcount of bullshit artists at today. 4bn ? 7bn ?
Bugpowder: You know what's cooler than claiming a $100,000 investment in BTC? Claiming a $10,000,000 investment.
mircea_popescu: you know what's more idiotic than claiming you're a millionaire while begging for free pizza ?
kakobrekla: i think some became millionaries by begging for free pizzas
error4733: some became millionaries with 2 pizzas
kakobrekla: yeah mp you really should have picked a different dish
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.20000, Best ask: 74.38000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18000, Last trade: 75.00000, 24 hour volume: 643361.01494130, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 94.67089, 24 hour vwap: 68.78895
kakobrekla: yeah i pasted a link to the book when it was showing that
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00065 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.00064 = 0.128 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.00063 = 0.0032 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 40 @ 0.00062 = 0.0248 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 250 @ 0.00061 = 0.1525 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 20 @ 0.000609 = 0.0122 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000608 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 726 @ 0.000608 = 0.4414 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 99 @ 0.000607 = 0.0601 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.0006 = 0.0024 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.0006 = 0.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00058 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3725 @ 0.000566 = 2.1084 BTC [-]
jcpham: my wife just brought me a sandwich and walked out\
Bugpowder: I wonder how much added liquidity is a result of the reduced fees from couting all the volume during the free trade period towards current fee schedule.
Scrat: jcpham: sounds like a good wife
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 16 @ 0.003811 = 0.061 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: jcpham you need to start with domestication early
Scrat: it's just the whales playing with each other
Scrat: they will get bored
jcpham: it has bacon on it too
kakobrekla: theyll get borred and go back fapping sdice
Scrat: the bugpowdery whales
deadweasel_work: well you already married her, all you can do now is eat your sandwich
jcpham: need to do something for her
error4733: ask for a second round, best compliment ever
deadweasel_work: just tell her you love her and don't dutch oven her. that should be good for a while.
Scrat: "blow me while i day trade honey"
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.837 = 1.674 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.0006891 = 4.6514 BTC [-]
error4733: did she ask how reddem a private key yesterday ?
unbalanced: Bugpowder, what's the red USD scale in that last plot? USD/BTC? Thousands? I think I get the blue scale.
jcpham: sadly she knows the passphrase to my wallet
jcpham: ...if only she knew how to mount an encrypted truecrypt container
error4733: so its 5 letter max ! sounds a bad passphrase !
gribble: There are currently 52749739 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12462919.8992 USD in total. | Data vintage: 17.3470 seconds
unbalanced: Ah, it was just the $ on the axis labels throwing me off.
Bugpowder: I'm losing faith in the predictive power of this indicator
unbalanced: So the plot ends at 25x in USD terms, 3x in BTC terms. That'll do, pig. That'll do.
Bugpowder: it sounds so small when you say it like that
unbalanced: (Has anyone seen the movie "Babe"? No?)
unbalanced: File it under famous movie understatements.
unbalanced: The pig saves the farm, incredible achievements transpire, and the perpetually grumpy farmer finally says something positive.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.51 = 1.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 113 @ 0.195 = 22.035 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.80599 = 8.0599 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.805 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.801 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.801 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.791 = 15.82 BTC [-]
pgp: binany options is like satoshi dice... negative EV
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19899 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.15001 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: well pretty much every scam has to be tried out at least once
Bugpowder: did u see the million dollar bitcoin homepage
deadweasel_work: lol, just read bitcoin-assets.com again. "- don’t slap yourself [in public] (yes you DeadWeasel), it’s spammy"
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder the million dollar bitycoin ? or the bitbillion ?
mircea_popescu: or bitmillions or w/e the fuck ? thye kinda run together by now
Bugpowder: The faq is pretty embarrassing... suprised he hasn't taken it down yet.
mircea_popescu: The site traffic is growing every day! Today almost 1,000 uniques and counting. Be the first to pick up your spot on the homepage. Prime time to pick the best spots =)"
deyyo: lol at the faq….that is so retarded
Bugpowder: he should seed the page with some fake ads
kakobrekla: im just trying to see how much it costs to write fuck you there but its expecive as shit
Bugpowder: the street musician ALWAYS has some money in the hat
mircea_popescu: also, 100 dollars per pixel ? what's this to do with bitcoins.
jcpham: shrug i got bored of drawing dicks
jcpham: doesn't minesweeper for shit
jcpham: never found a single mine
jcpham: drawing dicks or playing minesweeper ;)?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.71 = 5.13 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.70000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.7 = 8.5 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: finding dick patterns in the freemine zone
joecool: that's a minesweeping tactic
jcpham: this one time i was sitting around this campfire
jcpham: this 12 year old kid blurts out
jcpham: "that fire looks like satan's penis!"
jcpham: "excuse me, were you thinking about dicks just now?"
jcpham: everyone laughs at kid
pgp: kid commits suicide...
jcpham: poor guy was broken in front of his peers
Diablo-D3: the only proper response to that is "I was thinking how your mom fits mine perfectly"
mircea_popescu: that awkward moment when you're watching a vid of some girls going down some stairs and exlaim "wait a second, this is that hotel in belgrade"
mircea_popescu: only to immediately realise that a. yes it is, b. they're getting banged and c. that's actually when you were there.
mircea_popescu: worse than satan penis. now people think i'm going senile.
jurov: how does that follow?
jurov: you forgot you filmed them?
mircea_popescu: i was just there in case they needed money to replace destroyed underwear etc.
deadweasel_work: my underwear is in tatters: 1GdtkZzhZTzBssUq6bnE27cz4rv5SJ4sr5
jurov: deadweasel you whore, how is my job?
jurov: don't tell me you fapped hard and spranied wrist again :)
mircea_popescu: "This is not the case here. Paying the 30BTC doesn’t mean that other people can then trade via me and I will be able to earn commissions from their trades."
jurov: where? i so want to troll them that i paid for special broker license
mircea_popescu: people have found the article where some doods who explain how $600 is way too much are being hammered, and want to add their own "$3000 is too much" contributions.
mircea_popescu: basically the internet is this place where funny just grows. like a sort of agar for humor.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5060 @ 0.00069482 = 3.5158 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1315 @ 0.00069802 = 0.9179 BTC [+]
jurov: Yes, you’re correct. For reselling MPEx account, you need special broker license from exclusive reseller such as CoinBr.com. To obtain it, please send 99 BTC to CoinBr662GWdiqVz8mXJUnYjWZbBchKAb .
jurov: no, just issuing mpex broker licenses
jurov: lets see what happens nao
gribble: MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 69.22100, Best ask: 69.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.75900, Last trade: 69.22100, 24 hour volume: 657938.34800807, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 93.00998, 24 hour vwap: 68.33931
jurov: that's there, in fine print
jborkl: holy shit, you see unconfirmed transactions
jborkl: well a block just went through, still over 5000
jborkl: well, it just randomly changed for me also, now at 1100
gribble: Keiser Report: Magic of Bitcoin Gathering (E432) - YouTube
Bugpowder: Wow. I never actually watched Max. He really looks and sounds like a troll.
Scrat: you never know with max keiser
joecool: i wonder if he lives under a bridge, i notice there's a bridge in the background behind him
jcpham: who's got a bridge for sale?
jcpham: pretty sure keiser pumped and dumped already
jcpham: can't listen to him anymore
Namworld: Selling bridge! Only 200000 BTC!
deyyo: i couldn't watch him for more than 10 seconds...
Namworld: Yeah, I'm sure he sold near the top
deyyo: he just looks and sounds retarded
Scrat: i have overlayed gollum on max keiser
Scrat: proportions match perfectly
Namworld: He looks like gollum, but with more hairs and not yet as skinny
error4733: some of you already bought something on bitmit ?
kakobrekla: its still better than half of the shit you find outthere about bitcoin
error4733: i need btc on my account before bidding or i can fill my account after & pay ?
Namworld: Scrat, maybe if Bitcoins dies one day, when all BTC are lost to lost keys, he'll have the last cascacius coin, the last bitcoin, saying "My Precious"
pgp: "krugman is a complete bimbo"
Scrat: sorry I exited photoshop in disgust
Scrat: mtgox x232 3,021.3251 @ 68.73813904 USD
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.51499989 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: also wtf "even if you were to take over the network people would see it comming....... you cant fllip a switch and take 51% of the network"
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000699 BTC [+]
pgp: that is not what prisoners dilemma is all about - is it?
mircea_popescu: sounds a lot like the internet is not like a truck argument.
pgp: does he really have a .ru email address?
Namworld: [15:13] <kakobrekla> also wtf "even if you were to take over the network people would see it comming....... you cant fllip a switch and take 51% of the network"
Namworld: Well... if someone were to do that... that's exactly how they'd do it.
Diablo-D3: thats how I'd do it if I wanted to
Diablo-D3: and I'd leave the shit on just enough to make it work
kakobrekla: luckly for us it doesnt matter what you would do
pgp: actually, isn't hashing power now more concentrated than ever?
Diablo-D3: pgp: wont be after asicminer unleashes a 200th load all over your face
Namworld: they'll reach 51% at this rate
pgp: right - so... that doesn't seem so secure to me...
pgp: that's the reason yifu started avalon, right?
pgp: c'mon - sell, sell, sell!
pgp: so, extrpolate into the future - how does the mining shit play out?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3975 @ 0.00070239 = 2.792 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2925 @ 0.0006891 = 2.0156 BTC [-]
punkman: then the cheapest electricity qina
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 65.94000, Best ask: 66.00100, Bid-ask spread: 0.06100, Last trade: 66.30000, 24 hour volume: 664521.94526845, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 91.00000, 24 hour vwap: 68.15425
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.366 = 0.732 BTC [-]
jcpham: Using our powerful ASIC cloud, we simplify the mining process for you.
jcpham: luke-jr what do think about this cloudhashing scam
tk993: I'd say, yeah, sounds too good to be true, jcpham.
alex1234567: Luke-Jr: can you by any chance do hardware based c coding?
jcpham: i can't get behind their economic model
Luke-Jr: jcpham: even if it weren't a scam, it defeats the point of mining even more than centralized pools
jcpham: doesn't seem any worse than asicminer
Luke-Jr: jcpham: well, ASICMiner has the same problem
gribble: There are currently 1.0566017e+09 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11861233.5045 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0078 seconds
Namworld: I switched gribble to e+ numbers
Namworld: Of all bids, Me: 1 billion, Rest of the world: 56.6 millions
Namworld: Where's my trophy for stupid achievements
gribble: There are currently 62882.521 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 5473189.36504 USD in total. | Data vintage: 84.2062 seconds
gribble: There are currently 1.0566017e+09 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11859030.3747 USD in total. | Data vintage: 91.7733 seconds
jborkl: there is something else with AA, they asked the FAA to ground all the flights?
gribble: There are currently 710752.61 bitcoins demanded at or over 1.0 USD, worth 11622897.2427 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0074 seconds
Scrat: ok ill go away now
Namworld: It's not lame. I represent like 95% of the bids orderbook in BTC denomination now.
gribble: There are currently 1.0565969e+09 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11854275.4436 USD in total. | Data vintage: 107.0922 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00070244 = 4.7766 BTC [+]
Namworld: 0.00001 USD minimum bid... 0.0000001 cost per bid
Namworld: Well that would have killed gox's engine
jborkl: I am assuming SD is undergoin a DDOS attack now
gribble: There are currently 1.0565969e+09 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11830042.4309 USD in total. | Data vintage: 11.4155 seconds
gribble: There are currently 56594480 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11572274.4877 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0086 seconds
pgp: can't gribble be formatted with 000 seperator
Namworld: not without complaining to the right person
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85397 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85398 BTC [+]
pgp: another nice feature would be something like ;;depth 40% where it give ;;bids last*(1-.4) and ;;asks last*(1+.4)
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01299 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.013 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.014 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.014898 = 0.1192 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.014899 = 1.4899 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 722721.79 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.9 USD, worth 11548332.3198 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0095 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85398 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.854 = 1.708 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.85999 = 6.8799 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8649 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.87387 = 2.6216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00069338 = 7.9739 BTC [-]
Lyspooner: Money is most optimal when it is fixed in value just as commerce is facilitated when we have fixed weights and measures. When you buy a pound of hamburger you expect to get 16 ounces of meat. An hour has 60 minutes. A mile has 5280 feet. These measurements don’t “float.”
jcpham: that's forbes staff btw
Scrat: A mile has 5280 feet < lol
Scrat: what a retarded measurement system
Scrat: using that to make a point
mircea_popescu: anyway, the usual set of ignorant/half informed nonsense people do these days
jcpham: dawwww i like seeing these old smart people look dumb
mircea_popescu: "our currency collapsed against this thing therefore this thing can't be used to price hamburgers in"
mircea_popescu: the fact that the dollar is insanely volatile these days has little bearing on anything other than... the dollar itself.
pgp: 666k 224h gox volume...
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19889 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.01 = 10 BTC [+]
Lyspooner: mircea_popescu, you do a good job of chronicling those articles or instances of great stupidity. please keep this steve forbes article in your archives for future reference
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.1989 = 0.5967 BTC [+]
Namworld: people just want my BTC-BOND, do they?
mircea_popescu: im not gonna. guy's entitled to being stupid ocasionalyl, he has a name.
Namworld: I was recalling it because price was rising too much in my taste. Now I put it back available and people buy.
jborkl: looks like it is going to be approx 300w for a single, whenif they show up
jborkl: 8800w for a minirig, even though those are not shipping
jcpham: most US homes/places of business aren't wired for that
kakobrekla: so when do they pay the 1k btc chairty bet?
jcpham: up front investment to support power usage
jborkl: that power draw is as correct as far as I know
jcpham: jborkl that's an insane number for a minirig
jborkl: consistent with what has been said
jborkl: I am not saying it is not insance
jborkl: just relaying the news
jcpham: those fuckers at bfl are batshit
jborkl: people are going to have to deal with heat, power , proper cooling, babysitting
jborkl: and that is without a host
jcpham: it would need 7 power cords going to maxxed out terminal is a US home
jcpham: more likely 220v though
jcpham: no clue what sort of support you'd need for that
jcpham: i bet i ask an electrician tomorrow though
jborkl: I have places for all of mine, already drawing a bunch from GPU's
jborkl: 480v with a transformer
pgp: then we'll shart to hear the stories of how the bfl asics catch on fire...
jcpham: that's new service from the electric co for most people
Diablo-D3: 240v is usually what comes down off the poles and then its phase split into two 120vs
Namworld: oh wow... the quote: "We don’t really know how this coin is created. You can’t have a functional money without a basic transparency."
jcpham: is terrible don't read it
Diablo-D3: no one even listens to their shit anymore
jcpham: it's steven himself Diablo-D3
Diablo-D3: steven forbes doesnt actually exist
Diablo-D3: its a persona made up by the company
jcpham: apparently the blockchain and mining is totally opaque
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.87 = 1.74 BTC [-]
jborkl: lol, I bet it does not either
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.87387 = 1.7477 BTC [+]
jborkl: you would also need a pretty big ventilation to draw out that heat
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.87389 = 4.3695 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89997 BTC [+]
jcpham: it's no good all-around
jcpham: they were selling a 1.5 kW plug it in anywhere device
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.89998 = 4.4999 BTC [+]
pgp: unless you can use it to reduce you're heating bill in the winter...
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.925 = 7.4 BTC [+]
jcpham: i thought the minirgis came in under 1.5
mircea_popescu: tbh i don't know how you can get 10kW installed comercially.
Diablo-D3: because that might not pass federal requirements
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: pretty much you call up the power company and ask
jborkl: I have my own , but I am commercial
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 around here you can get 380V triphase installed just on asking
jcpham: well the point is the minirig was a consumer device but now it seems commercial
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I think you're missing the concept
Diablo-D3: you told me volts and watts but not amps.
Diablo-D3: 380v triphase can handle 6kw, it just depends entirely what your amperage is
mircea_popescu: yes well... eu residential power is 220 v and < 20 amps
mircea_popescu: commercially you can get (easily) 380 volts and i think it carries about 120 amps max
Diablo-D3: you have 40, 60, 80, whatever amps coming into your house
jcpham: yeah i'm saying like home wiring can't even handle it
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I said into the house, as in, for all the cirucits
Diablo-D3: you have a shitty house if you only have 2 circuits
Diablo-D3: 120v in the US is typically 15a, 18a max
mircea_popescu: 20 amps at 220 volts is over 4kw, which is considered sufficient
Bugpowder: Tesla's home single charger is 240v/40A/10kW
Diablo-D3: Bugpowder: depends which one, you CAN buy superchargers for home use
jcpham: 240 works w/ the 80AMP
Diablo-D3: its just going to be fun talking your electric company into doing it
jcpham: inside wiring can't handle 80
jcpham: it's to much. you have to build the facility to house 8.8kW
Bugpowder: looks like $2000 plus installation costs
jcpham: right the opossite of what they initially sold
Diablo-D3: I have 6 or 7 120v circuits, and 6 240v 30a circuits
jcpham: you are wired sir Diablo-D3
Diablo-D3: I think 120v 40a actually goes into the circuit breaker box though
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 there is no way you can draw 40kw off your apt grid right now.
Diablo-D3: (the 240s are double 120 breakers)
jcpham: i've got 2 meters, 4 acres and 5 buildings and i think i only have one 240 drop to each meter
Diablo-D3: anyhow, you said 360v at 120 amps?
Diablo-D3: you do realize thats 45.6kw right?
mircea_popescu: and 120 is i think nomional max. you won't get it more than you get 1mbps internet or w/e
gribble: Error: unexpected character after line continuation character (<string>, line 1)
jurov: i can't follow, where are these kilowatts announced?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah but you were trying to put 6kw on it
mircea_popescu: i was discussing normal house wiring. which is about 4kw tops.
Diablo-D3: Bugpowder: btw, yes, due to what tesla is doing, you can now get higher end chargers installed
jcpham: 4kw tops but you aren't going to be using 120v at that point
Diablo-D3: Bugpowder: they'll work with your electric company to get it done for you
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah, europe is weird
mircea_popescu: and 380v triphase at about 100+ amps, which you have to install speciallly.
jurov: you just need thicker wires
jcpham: i think europe requires 380 or multiple 220v drops
Diablo-D3: you need LESS copper as voltage goes up to maintain the same wattage
mircea_popescu: this is what you can do out of the box pretty much. otherwise you have to get on the list for a transform station being builrt
jcpham: surely bfl does intend to ship a device drawing more than 4kW
Diablo-D3: we dont have 240v sockets typically