ThickAsThieves: i wonder how much potential money was lost waiting for that deposit
jurov: try complaining to your bank how much you lost due to them "delaying" a wire
jurov: i'm interested what they'll say.
ThickAsThieves: not that simple, i could debate more relevant angles, but i'm not interested in arguing I guess
unbalanced_: It's taken me a while but I am learning to plan ahead to get BTC where I need 'em before I need 'em.
unbalanced_: jurov, I appreciate you helping out on the transfers as you have mentioned here before
unbalanced_: (I'm a small fish compared to some of the whales around here though.)
jurov: um, okay, it's not exactly helping, rather basic business operation
dub: what I like about this rally is the deafening silence of the 'cryptoanarchist' brigade
jurov: they became rich and are disgusted of thmeselves?
dub: 'down with the state! eat the rich! oh shit nigga im rich? break out the crystal'
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 116 @ 0.010246 = 1.1885 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010246 BTC [+]
jurov: or just the media attention completely deafened anything other
unbalanced_: jurov, that's what I mean, when you're around you do what you can to expedite. But you gotta sleep sometime.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.010247 = 0.1537 BTC [+]
jurov: my mother said today "oh yes i'm seeing bitcoins everywhere"
Bugpowder: or traded their coins for stuff on SR.
jurov: i was like what? where?
jurov: and there are supposedly some billboards with bitcoins around
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0987 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.0988 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0989 BTC [+]
jurov: i hope she's exaggerating
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.099 = 0.198 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.1 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C248T] 400 @ 0.14696244 = 58.785 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1818 @ 0.00071199 = 1.2944 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10482 @ 0.000712 = 7.4632 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01799 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.018 = 0.09 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 20 @ 0.01899 = 0.3798 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 200 @ 0.25859901 = 51.7198 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 61 @ 0.010248 = 0.6251 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.10099 = 0.202 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C203T] 30 @ 0.24982555 = 7.4948 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 28 @ 0.101 = 2.828 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C185T] 170 @ 0.30659469 = 52.1211 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1442 @ 0.0027 = 3.8934 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C209T] 30 @ 0.23306651 = 6.992 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C155T] 100 @ 0.42471172 = 42.4712 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C215T] 30 @ 0.2173294 = 6.5199 BTC [+]
Lyspooner: and i don't see why a cryptoanarchist can't enjoy champagne
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 23 @ 0.101 = 2.323 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.101 = 0.303 BTC [+]
jurov: cryptoanarchist + veuve clicquot = ?
dub: Lyspooner: thanks for that
dub: never actually seen any cristal taht i can recall
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.16 = 3.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 500 @ 0.01025 = 5.125 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 6 @ 0.019999 = 0.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 16 @ 0.02 = 0.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.02 = 0.06 BTC [+]
Lyspooner: the owner of the company that produces cristal said something bad about black people, like, "i wish they wouldn't be drinking my champagne"
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 33 @ 0.1019 = 3.3627 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1019 = 0.2038 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.15 = 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.125 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.7799 = 6.2392 BTC [+]
jurov: no wonder when topace allows sdice transfers in only one direction
jurov: the other direction is "allowed" for 10BTC fee
jurov: btw if anyone is interested to split the fee let me know
jurov: er... but transfers between accounts are prolly 10btc too... no help here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2750 @ 0.0027 = 7.425 BTC [-]
MJR_: that is super low on havelock
jborkl_: I bought a bottle once, it was shitty
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 237.00000, Best ask: 237.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 237.10000, 24 hour volume: 101568.77369191, 24 hour low: 183.00000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 210.66450
topace|2: 10btc is rediculous at todays rates
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: are you still around?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 480 @ 0.0027 = 1.296 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.24 = 0.72 BTC [-]
toffoo: for sale: 175 ASICMINER shares (not pass-thru) @ 0.75 BTC
toffoo: (typing up forum post now)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.145 = 2.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0027 = 1.08 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.222 = 0.888 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.221 = 2.21 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.101 = 5.505 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 27 @ 0.221 = 5.967 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: I wuz thinking of depositing some more coin
Bugpowder: wanted to see if I could get a quick flush when it comes in
mircea_popescu: at the rate mining has been going that'll be tomorrow anyway
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.222 = 0.888 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0027 = 1.08 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.23 = 0.92 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00277899 = 1.1116 BTC [+]
gribble: (bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 237.25000, Best ask: 237.45900, Bid-ask spread: 0.20900, Last trade: 237.46000, 24 hour volume: 98777.78340359, 24 hour low: 184.58200, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 211.72212
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: If you wouldn't mind flushing my deposit, I'd appreciate it. tx
KRS1: no matter where you say it, you know that you'll be heard
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C122T] 20 @ 0.539 = 10.78 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C119T] 5 @ 0.55 = 2.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C110T] 40 @ 0.605 = 24.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C107T] 30 @ 0.625 = 18.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 55 @ 0.65 = 35.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C095T] 20 @ 0.68 = 13.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.145 = 2.29 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: wouldnt it be better to buy higher strike price options?
mod6: (15:33) < ThickAsThieves> diminishing returns on those, no? << if the price of the underlying continues to rise, so should the CALLs regardless of strike
mod6: well, have to figure in theta tho
mod6: and other greeks heheh
Bugpowder: I only bought cause they were midmarket
jurov: fuck someone had to chose this night for pentesting coinbr
jurov: getting flooded by error reports
ThickAsThieves: Bug, lets take the [MPEX] [O.USD.C110T] 40 @ 0.605 = 24.2 BTC for example
ThickAsThieves: so you'd only need price to hit 275 to make the same .08
Bugpowder: the curves are steeper the higher out you go in strike
Bugpowder: and have a 0 point crossever further out
Bugpowder: I don't really care what the curves look like
Bugpowder: your options were 8% under the bot price
Bugpowder: I don't know where there price will go
Bugpowder: If mircea_popescu programmed his bot right, which I assume he did, the average EV of each strike should be roughly equal, given the population distribution of future price expectations
Bugpowder: Thus, if a few strikes are priced 8% cheaper than others, I should buy those
mircea_popescu: you're supposed to find all sorts of bot errors and whatnot
Bugpowder: unless I KNOW where the market is going to go
ThickAsThieves: okay so in summary, what you bought breaks even at 275, and the break even for C200 is lower, yet what you bought is better?
Bugpowder: the break even for c200 is lower???
Bugpowder: I should really automate this analysis
mircea_popescu: the otm one breaks even slightly earlier, but the itm one spends a lot longer itm
Bugpowder: I used to have an excel sheet that did this
Bugpowder: maybe I will write a little matlab toolbox for MPEX options
jurov: Namworld has it, no?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77969 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 232.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 233.68090, Best ask: 234.00100, Bid-ask spread: 0.32010, Last trade: 233.36000, 24 hour volume: 104028.45730655, 24 hour low: 184.58200, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 213.48161
deadweasel: volume ticked up from 101000 a few hours earlier.
deadweasel: what does mpex stand for? mirceau popescu's exchange?
deadweasel: oops, sorry about the u, stupid one hand type
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C206T] 30 @ 0.24933615 = 7.4801 BTC [+]
deadweasel: we can't say it in our heads w/out a U. hell, we can't even say it. you know that.
deadweasel: 85mph on a couple of our highways. i don't stand a chance.
jurov: we now know why do americans remove the u in colour, honour and other words.. to give to mircea
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00398 BTC [+]
jurov: mircea_popescu, withdrawals pls
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.003989 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00070579 = 1.4116 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.225 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.15 = 6.9 BTC [+]
gribble: MtGox lag is 94.39232 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.189161152411 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Wickamela: there is a waitlist of 11000 on mtgox, no one is cashing out of BTC anytime soon. hold
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: people are always cashing out of bitcoin, but there are a lot of businesses that depend on bitcoin circulating no?
pizzaman1337: 11k in queue? let's say each one buys one btc...
gribble: A market order to buy 11000 bitcoins right now would take 2771320.6718 USD and would take the last price up to 286.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 251.9382 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 74.5696 seconds
gribble: A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 8459539.8771 USD and would take the last price down to 100.5100 USD, resulting in an average price of 169.1908 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 93.5936 seconds
gribble: A market order to sell 5000 bitcoins right now would net 1109898.4968 USD and would take the last price down to 216.4966 USD, resulting in an average price of 221.9797 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 105.9529 seconds
gribble: There are currently 357138.57 bitcoins demanded at or over 1.0 USD, worth 14054330.0402 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0104 seconds
gribble: There are currently 6925.555 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 1682002.33694 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.6257 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.77959 = 7.7959 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.002421 = 0.0048 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00242 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 59 @ 0.00241 = 0.1422 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 394 @ 0.0024 = 0.9456 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.267 = 1.869 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7769 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01196 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 18 @ 0.01197 = 0.2155 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01199 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 234.88701, Best ask: 234.99988, Bid-ask spread: 0.11287, Last trade: 234.99988, 24 hour volume: 104419.56405479, 24 hour low: 189.60123, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 220.28807
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00071213 = 13.8153 BTC [-]
rikur: could you review my bet of gox to 1000$ before end of april. I set it to end within 2 weeks to make it a bit more interesting ;)
ChaangNoi: is it just me or is the forum down?
Uglux: quite unstable here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00070927 = 4.6103 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01199 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00188 BTC [-]
taub: only thing worse than laggy data
bowjob: Who owns this address?
mircea_popescu: that may interest you. connects it to leandro cesar, the mercado bitcoin guy
bowjob: Oh I see.. didnt he get hacked
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77649 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 235.50000, Best ask: 235.63800, Bid-ask spread: 0.13800, Last trade: 235.63800, 24 hour volume: 106384.26600045, 24 hour low: 191.55000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 221.80184
taub: i'm afraid we might break out to the upside...
bowjob: theres over 10k at gox waiting to get verified
bowjob: hard to imagine they will register to dump
mircea_popescu: i always quesrtoned this, everyone is like "o, queue at gox"
mircea_popescu: for all you know it's people who had 50 btc they forgot about
taub: you dont have to get verified to deposit btc
mircea_popescu: for all we know most of those accounts are already out of the mkt
mircea_popescu: jkust sitting ion whatever cash mtgox owes them waiting
mircea_popescu: (and for all we know mtgox doesn't even have that cash ready)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.287 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8401 @ 0.0007035 = 5.9101 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3403 @ 0.00070202 = 2.389 BTC [-]
ChaangNoi: there is over 18,000 waiting to get verified at gox
ChaangNoi: i have people coming to me and trying to buy in thailand, like 100,000 usd per order, its fucking crazy
ChaangNoi: new blood into the market, but sure, some to take it out
bowjob: i already stopped talking about btc irl
bowjob: fuck this shit. i told them to buy at 13.5. i told them i cashed out
bowjob: hey chang, i had 3 thai dishes today, pad ped, green curry and cashew chicken
bowjob: gc > pad ped >>>>>>>>>> casher chicken
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75651 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7565 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75641 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7564 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.74201 = 5.1941 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.742 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7402 = 1.4804 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7401 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.74 = 3.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 0.73925 = 16.2635 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.739211 = 7.3921 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 0.73921 = 9.6097 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.7391 = 5.9128 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7391 = 7.391 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.739 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 240.00000, Best ask: 241.67000, Bid-ask spread: 1.67000, Last trade: 241.67000, 24 hour volume: 107066.49201964, 24 hour low: 193.50300, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 222.26621
gribble: There are currently 33211201 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12846229.62 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0136 seconds
bowjob: "I'm working with Exante.eu to broker deals getting London hedge funds into BTC. We've got more than $1 bn. lined "
saulimus: he's giving us a tip to buy now.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.776 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7759 = 2.3277 BTC [-]
rikur: bowjob: Exante already has a portfolio of 81k BTC, I was shocked to read it
bowjob: 1 b in btc would baloon us to 10b? market cap?
bowjob: im gonna be a millionaire in fiat value
bowjob: hopefully people start accepting btc for houses in vancouver
bowjob: id love be a landowner at age 21, hehe
rikur: oh hi vancouver mate
rikur: bowjob: I'm looking to buy a penthouse with a couple bitcoins :)
bowjob: id love to get my hands on dt as well
bowjob: i heard most of it is empty
rikur: I'm down downtown, seymour and robson
rikur: view to granville st
bowjob: its my cakeday tomorrow, ill head over to downtown for nice meals
bowjob: yeah that place is awesome
bowjob: my friends know of my bitcoin riches, they dont seem to ask for handouts which is great
bowjob: imma head over to le crocodile, get the chef menu
rikur: I damn wish I had more bitcoins, but I'm not rich yet
bowjob: umm, i took some fiat values, im not rich lol
bowjob: i made it so that i cant lose in this game. i got my money out, and then some
bowjob: im set for another year
bowjob: and, i have an avalon coming yyeah?
rikur: I mined my coins, only bought 75 more about a week ago.
rikur: nah, this was years ago
bowjob: i have a buddy who mined 500 btc
bowjob: sold them for a few hundred bucks..
rikur: 12 GPUS running and huming 24/7. Seems like it was worth it
bowjob: so, cakeday. to le crocodile
bowjob: i havent really splurged at all
rikur: hope you get your avalon soon.. Once they hit the market, the profits are going to collapse.. And soon bit players are going to start getting asics.
bowjob: coulda walked into hermes shop and walk out with stuff
rikur: but if you're lucky, you could get a month or two headstart.
bowjob: Well, im pretty sure id get at least 170 BTC back
bowjob: bfl seems to be in trouble
rikur: I pre-orederd BFL but cancelled it after waiting for 6 months. BS service.
bowjob: i wish i bought more avalons
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 249.01000, Best ask: 249.49900, Bid-ask spread: 0.48900, Last trade: 249.49900, 24 hour volume: 108720.87911572, 24 hour low: 193.81110, 24 hour high: 249.00000, 24 hour vwap: 223.14239
bowjob: i would sell one of them
bowjob: and mine one. that way, i get my cake and it too
rikur: pizzaman1337: 1000$ will be hit before end of week :)
bowjob: theres this guy named blacklilac, who offerd 171 BTC for an avalon
bowjob: hes a vancouverite too
gribble: There are currently 27967.965 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 12626807.4112 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0026 seconds
gribble: There are currently 33210999 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12758878.916 USD in total. | Data vintage: 18.5050 seconds
bowjob: rikur. i have an uncle who owns 3 houses. he makes bank
bowjob: i wanna do taht shit as well.. , it seems the prices of houses will go down soon
bowjob: if btc rises enough, ill strike this shit
gribble: There are currently 49348.324 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 7949601.91864 USD in total. | Data vintage: 61.0224 seconds
rikur: bowjob: yeah the housing prices here are a joke. I moved in about a year ago, and won't buy until I'm a bitcoin millionaire or there's a correction.
bowjob: btw, have you been to bella gelateria?
rikur: bowjob: not unless it's in yaletown?
bowjob: west cordova, close to canada plac
rikur: I can't remember the name of the place, but the there's an italian one I think.
rikur: hmm. maybe not then.
bowjob: yeah, bella gelateria.
rikur: I guess "close" is so relative when you live dt
bowjob: theres this place i want to go to.. its called Finch's coffee and tea house
bowjob: i heard its godtier shop.
rikur: bowjob: I've heard it's really nice, but small and crowded
bowjob: im gonna try it as well... so many top tier place in vancouver its like.. the best foods congregate there
bowjob: with my buddy.. we were gonna go to exp bar that day
bowjob: but it was closed.. and we werent even dressed for the occation
rikur: my recommendations: Sunday brunch at Beyond Restaurant (25$ / person), Twisted Fork (very small and nice restaurant)..
bowjob: lots of business suits over there
bowjob: never heard those places
rikur: trying to think of more but am too tired and medicated :D
bowjob: octopus garden at kitsilano
rikur: hehe, you know what? I've never been to kits
bowjob: i wanted to get the 100 dollar menu but the head chef wasnt there, so i had the 65 dollar one instead
bowjob: me neither. till i went there exclusively for that place
rikur: But I should explore a lot now, still waiting for my new LMO and Work Permit.
rikur: have all the time in the world
rikur: hell, if bitcoin keeps this up I might not need the job :D
bowjob: I'll have 2 parties for my cake day.
bowjob: 1 with fam, 1 with friends
rikur: oh and ofcourse, best nachos are at The Foundation
bowjob: have you ever been to vij's?
rikur: that's a nice platter :)
bowjob: yeha, you know what. that platter
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 249.87990, Best ask: 249.87999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00009, Last trade: 249.87999, 24 hour volume: 109125.46115724, 24 hour low: 193.84000, 24 hour high: 249.87999, 24 hour vwap: 223.42658
rikur: nah.. I have a bad habit of sticking to a couple places I like :/
bowjob: you can eat a godtier meal for 2.. for less than 1 bitcoin
bowjob: yeah me too. but i love trying out new places
bowjob: im a bit of a foodie so
rikur: so do you have hundreds or thousands coins?
bowjob: but im set in fiat terms
bowjob: i havent worked for like 8 months now LOL
bowjob: i got most of my BTC when they were 13 dollars ea
rikur: dunno.. I just got a golden handshake. and it's gone.
bowjob: just before the great rally
rikur: so you've been seriously cashing out
bowjob: i want a house. but i cant afford it
bowjob: i can afford everything else
bowjob: so having 50k in the bank wont help me
rikur: Hehe, I'm saving for my houses too. But also for my immortality and trip to mars.
eeecurrency: I bought $45 worth at $9 ... wow... it's worth like $1150 now - :\ Who knew...
bowjob: tbh, we're both gonna be very wealthy, it seems.
taub: totally normal behavior
bowjob: I want to open a foodcart in vancouver
taub: price just comes to a standstill
bowjob: I have a friend who got 19 bitcoins when he used school computers
bowjob: it was still on his account.., I helped him transfer it to electrum
rikur: just imagine when 1 satoshi = 1 $
bowjob: 1 satoshi 1 cent, maybe in 10 years
rikur: you'd be surprised
bowjob: i want to eat the worlds most expensive hotdog
rikur: Just one of the tax haves got whistle blowed recently: 40 TRILLION USD of hidden money, and now the govts are stupid enough to go after it.. If they do, the money will find a new home and some of that will go to bitcoins too.
rikur: bowjob: let's order a set if the agrees to sell them in BTC?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7749 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.775 BTC [+]
rikur: the guy could get the title for worlds most expensive hot dogs for the next 100 years :DD
bowjob: if not, then i dont mind spending fiat either way
bowjob: i find calculating prices of goods in btc a good mental exercise
rikur: nah, I'm a scrooge. If it doesn't promote bitcoins, I'll rather eat canned soup :D
bowjob: so, 0.4 BTC for that glorious hotdog
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 249.99999, Best ask: 250.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 250.00000, 24 hour volume: 109468.05441769, 24 hour low: 193.95111, 24 hour high: 250.00000, 24 hour vwap: 223.69880
bowjob: it comes with wagyu beef and lobster, and some of that louis XII ?
gribble: There are currently 1167.9295 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 291982.352046 USD in total. | Data vintage: 105.4371 seconds
bowjob: rikur, i have a poor acquiatance who learned about bitcoins at 17 dollars
bowjob: nevr invested to 200 bucks,
bowjob: each time it goes up, its a bubble. each times, it flash crashes, its dying
rikur: hehe yeah. A friend of mine sold 100+ at 20$/btc. He's hitting himself hard these days.
rikur: They laughed at my adamant stacking and waiting for 10k/coin
bowjob: imo dont tell anyone else about the amount of btc you have
bowjob: its like winning the lottery.. but better. you can preserve your anonymity
rikur: yeah, I'll downplay the numbers whenever someone asks :)
bowjob: distant aunts and uncles wont bother you..
bowjob: and that kid you bumped into 5 years ago wont bother as well
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
rikur: so gox has been down for 10 mins
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 249.99800, Best ask: 249.99990, Bid-ask spread: 0.00190, Last trade: 249.99800, 24 hour volume: 108766.46027008, 24 hour low: 194.30000, 24 hour high: 250.00000, 24 hour vwap: 224.07281
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.20385 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000408513117582 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
rikur: but not executing trades either
bowjob: i dont really go to mt gox and watch the price these days
bowjob: warning. if you send a bet there, you will lose you bitcoins
bowjob: the bet is over, i saw some people game the system at 200
bowjob: btw, there is a BCIT instructor that holds 10k btc
bowjob: according to my IT friend.. ^ and old school miner
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00283546 = 0.8506 BTC [+]
taub: I refuse to believe mtgox isn't fucking with their engine on purpose now
taub: this stale action doesnt seem real at 250
taub: oh here we go, ther was a drop
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 247.38630, Best ask: 248.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.61370, Last trade: 248.00000, 24 hour volume: 108532.84546070, 24 hour low: 194.90001, 24 hour high: 250.00000, 24 hour vwap: 224.29028
rikur: taub: it's a complete black box, gox that is. they could be front running trades for massive profits.
taub: engage lag, look into the future
bowjob: man.. i asked casa to send me an invite to buy 100 1 BTc oins
bowjob: im too small of a fish for him. i wonder what kind of orders hes getting
bowjob: i have just 1.. i wish i got more
bowjob: i mostly use it as a "fuck u. BTC can exist phyiscally"
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 244.99000, Best ask: 247.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.01000, Last trade: 247.38630, 24 hour volume: 108068.12006362, 24 hour low: 195.20000, 24 hour high: 250.00000, 24 hour vwap: 224.55260
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5076 @ 0.00070202 = 3.5635 BTC [-]
bowjob: its 3:29 am wtf am i doing
rikur: wanking about bitcoins
bowjob: we bought bitcoins before buying them were cool
rikur: need to get a shirt like that
rikur: but yeah.. would be cool to just travel slowly for a few years
bowjob: i can bring the big bucks for the best food around
bowjob: one place ill never dare set foot in is mexico
bowjob: ive seen the worst shit happen in that place
punkman: still pretty safe for tourists
bowjob: dunno man, i seen to many narco vids
bowjob: russia... im ambivalent toward it
rikur: well I'm from Finland, so..
rikur: I've heard my share of stories of russia :)
punkman: there's always FUD about a country next door
bowjob: ah, i heard the happnies index there is high
bowjob: well, next door to canada is us
bowjob: im sure the fud is warranted
rikur: punkman: true, but shooting and bagging people in bright daylight is still pretty hc. And the stuff that happens on the quiet roads..
rikur: also, google russia road rage vids
punkman: yeah I've seen plenty of scary russian things
bowjob: russians seem to have dashcams everytime
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.0029 = 0.0203 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00281 = 0.0843 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2000 @ 0.0028 = 5.6 BTC [-]
MJR_: ;;calc (220.66-164)/220.66
bowjob: i wanna eat at guu now
gribble: benkay was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 7 hours, 59 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <benkay> forced bucketing of participants
KRS1: seems to have leveled off a bit after the last few days
MJR_: don't ever turn your back on an insane bitcoin market
punkman: what kind of new BTC services would you guys like to see this year?
MJR_: ooh nice one bowjob
MJR_: i was wishing i could take out $20 yesterday
bowjob: for me to load 1 BTC with the purchasing power of a few grand
punkman: you can already get debit cards
bowjob: can you use them to pay merchants tho
MJR_: where are these debit cards?
bowjob: make it so that the btc gets converted to fiat
punkman: yeah, mastercard/visa for btc, I saw a few on btctalk
bowjob: that way merchants will be familiar
bowjob: i mean a card loaded with BTC directly
punkman: you just don't want to preload them
bowjob: i expect to see one soon
MJR_: basically a visa card denominated in btc
bowjob: then i wont hoard as much lol
bowjob: i accidentally put jogging pants on backwards
bowjob: according to chinese, its good luck
KRS1: btc for toll roads would be splendid
KRS1: you could easily get refunded for unused portions
MJR_: wow guys, this is awesome...get this
MJR_: $960619.34 in loan demand at weighted average of 499.37%
MJR_: almost a million dollars at 500% interest
MJR_: 743840.76 at 667.165%
MJR_: so, the credit market for margin trading is approx 1.75 million and people pay between 500% and 667%...
ThickAsThieves: I'm thinking price might not move more than +/- 5% today
bowjob: it would be a bitch to move cad to usd
MJR_: but this is how i hedge my portfolio
MJR_: dollars lent out at sick interest rates
MJR_: 6.5408% that is the percent on Bitcoin loans
bowjob: mhm, lending money to them seems like a good idea
bowjob: ill do my due diligence tomrrow.
MJR_: also...in some ways you are adding liquidity
MJR_: as people can buy and sell more, also enabling short selling which is good, because they HAVE to buy bitcoins at some point
bowjob: 500% apr thats like.. a
MJR_: but they can't actually default
bowjob: what if they get hacked
MJR_: i mean, the only counter party risk is between you and bitfinex
MJR_: but you don't have to trust the person actually borrowing the money
taub: lost 8 coins trying to fish for a top
taub: feels bad, never again
MJR_: not only do they have risk procedures in place to autoliquidate the position if they lose their money, but they also guarantee that if they don't catch them in time, they will make up for it
bowjob: seems like a nice compounding game
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 195 @ 0.00283546 = 0.5529 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0029411 = 1.1764 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0029411 = 1.4706 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00318999 = 1.595 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 405 @ 0.00319 = 1.292 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.374 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.37315 = 1.4926 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.37311 = 1.4924 BTC [-]
pgp: what happens when the market moves down too fast for bitfinex to autoliquidate the margined longs?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00318999 = 1.595 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00319 = 1.276 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 60 @ 0.00256 = 0.1536 BTC [-]
pgp: they could end up getting really fucked really quickly...
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0025 = 2.5 BTC [-]
pgp: they don't disclose how much of a cushion they have to protect against that...
KRS1: lol does this mean its just gonna keep going up bid $248.53 ask $249.40 there's practically no spread
bowjob: 300 dollars reached on china
taub: mtgox is way too fucking laggy
KRS1: an exchange in china?
taub: to be running something like bitfinex on top of it
taub: i think i'll write an open source exchange
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1517 @ 0.000715 = 1.0847 BTC [+]
taub: or make the one i have os...
taub: tired of crappy exchanges
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 249.78598, Best ask: 249.78600, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 249.78598, 24 hour volume: 100347.88063017, 24 hour low: 199.78000, 24 hour high: 250.50000, 24 hour vwap: 228.10415
ThickAsThieves: Selling Call Options for lower than mpex bot, available in 86, 95, 104, 128, 131, 134
taub: Max Keiser .@maxkeiser 3h
taub: As I predicted: BTC would hit $250 (+/- 1%) and then pull back (as we've seen to $211). This is very healthy bull market action.
taub: there was no pullback to 211
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 250.78500, Best ask: 250.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01500, Last trade: 250.80000, 24 hour volume: 99766.58677138, 24 hour low: 201.56584, 24 hour high: 250.80000, 24 hour vwap: 228.36193
taub: it blew through 211 and never came back
taub: maybe he's looking at something else
taub: I didn't know he was promoting bitcoins like this
bitesak: he is seeing what he wants to see or the drop to 211 is upcoming..
MJR_: when did it go to 211
taub: well it didnt' that's why i'm wondering
MJR_: was that maxkeiser?
MJR_: maybe he was watching a different exchnage?
MJR_: he is an idiot...but i kinda appreciate him
MJR_: he says the most random crazy shit on his show
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6572 @ 0.00070202 = 4.6137 BTC [-]
MJR_: and i think half the comments reference meth
bitesak: wonder what price they offer? supposedly lots of 1k Btc
MJR_: where do they get access to the bitcoins? gox?
Namworld: #bitcoin is almost the top channel on freenode
MJR_: wouldn't be surprised if others like them are a big part of the rally
taub: maybe gox giving them lag discount...
MJR_: the malta based hedge fund
MJR_: and i use the term loosely...they just buy bitcoins
MJR_: and if someone wants to redeem 1000 fund units
MJR_: do they cover it directly or offload to the markets
bitesak: 1billion will make the price go up more than 100
taub: curr marketcap is like 200m?
Namworld: bitesak: true, because most coins in existence are probably lost...
bitesak: and are not available for sale also
Namworld: Many early day miners probably destroyed their wallets of "worthless bitcoins".
Namworld: and people not there to sell their Bitcoins...
bowjob: exante will pay dearly for my coins
bitesak: price > $500 if they actually buy coins.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.19500001 = 0.39 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.0006992 = 1.5382 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 20002.321 bitcoins offered at or under 500.0 USD, worth 6885874.93277 USD in total. | Data vintage: 33.2068 seconds
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
assbot: !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
assbot: !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
gribble: Error: "buys" is not a valid command.
bitesak: whats that command with $ amount and number of coins you could buy?
dub: ;;market buy 1000000000
gribble: This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 36730.056 bitcoins, for a total of 27477039122996.8594 USD and take the price to 13370133701337.0000. | Data vintage: 19.7813 seconds
dub: (note thats about 50 times more bitcoins than will ever exist)
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00242 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00242 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 318 @ 0.00241 = 0.7664 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 318 @ 0.00293588 = 0.9336 BTC [-]
MJR_: apparently, exante has 81k bitcoins...giving them AUM of 20.25 million dollars
MJR_: return over last 3 months...1000%
MJR_: minimum to open account 100k euro
Namworld: I hope not too many fools bite... or do I?
Namworld: I would be able to sell BTC even higher
MJR_: i'm looking to buy ;)
Namworld: 1 million a BTC please. Thank you, sir.
Bugpowder: Hello, I'm writing with an update regarding the Mt. Gox transition we announced a month ago. We've made good progress fulfilling direct buy and sell orders, and that seems to be going great. Our customers are saying really nice things about our customer service, and we've enjoyed making some direct connections with you.
Bugpowder: We will continue to make progress, but we're waiting for two things to be implemented: Full customer data access Working wire and Dwolla withdrawal forms Once those are done, we'll be ready to go.
kakobrekla: Our customers are saying really nice things about our customer service!
Bugpowder: Because of the Gox team's strong customer data protection methodologies, we aren't allowed to deliver these things directly, they have to go through the Gox process and that's taking longer than any of us want. I will be in Tokyo next week, and should have more updates then.
Bugpowder: you can't have customer service without customers.
deadweasel: i have some C188s, if this trend continues it is best to let them auto-exercise? if trend turns down i should exercise them before expiration?
deadweasel: or is it better to sell to bot rather than exercise?
bitesak: apparently, selling to bot is better
ThickAsThieves: run the math, check which method works best at the time you are ready
bitesak: but last month, I had trouble selling mine and it was easier just to press on exercise in coinbr
Bugpowder: almost always better to sell to the bot
Bugpowder: but better do the math, cause da bot can be pricing things incorrectly
deadweasel: ok. thx y'all. i do maffs tonight after work!
Bugpowder: if the trend continues, yes, you should hold as long as you can.
Bugpowder: this is not a sustainable rally today... not enough bid support
mpexbot: ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
deadweasel: but but the avg will climb until price<avg
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 265.00000, Best ask: 265.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 265.50000, 24 hour volume: 98543.24485812, 24 hour low: 204.00100, 24 hour high: 265.00000, 24 hour vwap: 230.36571
Bugpowder: deadweasel: it will probably climb even longer than that
deadweasel: but not more than say, 12 hours once the price turns down?
deadweasel: 24hr hr avg would have to stare falling onve price is less than avg... right.
Bugpowder: 24hr ave falls when the volume weighted price of the current time is less than the volume weighted price of what is rolling off the end of the 24hour window. This is rarely the same point of when the overall 24hr average > current spot price.
Namworld: Better go spread some stuff to prop up my vested interests in Bitcoins...
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.755 BTC [-]
gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 264.99000, Best ask: 265.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.41000, Last trade: 264.99000, 24 hour volume: 96781.06266826, 24 hour low: 205.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 231.21792
mpexbot: deadweasel: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
gribble: MtGox lag is 3.442951 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0068996352548 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).
deadweasel: so 24hr vwap is the leading number for the avg...
deadweasel: so it takes all spot vwaps for 24 hrs and averages them into $avg.
gribble: MtGox lag is 114.26117 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.228978105348 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4428 @ 0.0006992 = 3.0961 BTC [-]
error4733: 24 hour volume from gribble is 24h volume MtGox ?
pgp: is there a resource out there with historical 24h averages?
deadweasel: 2 hr vwap is 24 hr volume weighted average across all exchanges/
pgp: of course... I want to know if there is a historical record of those values anywhere?
pgp: at least for midnight GMT
deadweasel: i want to know also. just telling error4733
kakobrekla: i might possibly have something, lemme see
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 258.00001, Best ask: 259.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.99999, Last trade: 259.00000, 24 hour volume: 96828.50560386, 24 hour low: 205.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 231.94314
kakobrekla: accually i dont keep the vwap in the db only derivates of it since 26.5.2011
kakobrekla: but you can get whole history from bitcoincharts or whatever
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 200 @ 0.00997 = 1.994 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 250 @ 0.009961 = 2.4903 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 200 @ 0.00996 = 1.992 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
bitesak: thestringpuller: the weighted average price too?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00325 = 0.0163 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.374 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.372 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.37103 = 1.1131 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 258.52000, Best ask: 259.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.48000, Last trade: 259.00000, 24 hour volume: 98201.05349287, 24 hour low: 205.20000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 233.21993
Namworld: thestringpuller: not only is it fishy... it's unreal...
Namworld: the margin asked on those calls is massive...
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01199 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.012 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: Namworld: very surreal, is this what happens when a lot of money enters a market, or will come April 29th, MPOE-Bot will have lost much
bitesak: i followed bugpowder analysis and bought 188 at the beginning of the month. Seemed risky back then :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.012 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 255.00000, Best ask: 258.99000, Bid-ask spread: 3.99000, Last trade: 255.00000, 24 hour volume: 98201.05349287, 24 hour low: 205.20000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 233.21993
taub: tailer park boys <3
xiando: I'll see this as weakness if it even touches 250
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.774 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.21 = 2.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.1 = 2.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.10000000 / 1.29951327 / 1.70000000 (113 shares, 146.84500001 BTC), 7D: 1.10000000 / 1.56626019 / 1.93000000 (216 shares, 338.31220010 BTC), 30D: 1.10000000 / 1.78251174 / 2.08000000 (792 shares, 1411.74929840 BTC)
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 254.00000, Best ask: 254.99490, Bid-ask spread: 0.99490, Last trade: 254.00000, 24 hour volume: 99132.93124795, 24 hour low: 207.56630, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 233.77794
gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
mpexbot: thestringpuller: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 244.00000, Best ask: 246.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 246.00000, 24 hour volume: 98467.48651505, 24 hour low: 208.01000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 234.66446
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [+]
gribble: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "--help" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
gribble: MtGox lag is 554.95413 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.11212186294 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
gribble: MtGox lag is 586.52823 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.17539600582 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 245.10000, Best ask: 248.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.90000, Last trade: 250.00000, 24 hour volume: 97594.28627093, 24 hour low: 213.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 235.22490
dub: can anyone get to gox?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27 BTC [-]
gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 249.99897, Best ask: 249.99996, Bid-ask spread: 0.00099, Last trade: 249.99897, 24 hour volume: 97477.12202574, 24 hour low: 213.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 235.69527
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.12799 BTC [+]
bitesak: deadweasel: doesn't seem publi link
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.774 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77489 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7749 = 1.5498 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.775 = 3.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.128 = 0.256 BTC [+]
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 22 hours, 47 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.1 = 2.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000689 = 0.0689 BTC [+]
jdeurlruyk: What exactly does this group discuss? I am new to this but find it extremely interesting
Namworld: idk but I sold like 40 BTC at 130 and 50 at 250
Namworld: will probably keep selling small chunks as we keep rising
jdeurlruyk: So, what are the main ideas for investing in bitcoins so far? Would anyone be interested in setting up various basic financial instruments (e.g. annuities, bonds, etc) and have ideas on how to implement it? I am not a programmer but am a finance/economics expert
Namworld: There's already a lot of options out there...
jdeurlruyk: hahah nice. What exactly do you mean by options?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 258.00000, Best ask: 258.49000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49000, Last trade: 258.49000, 24 hour volume: 97414.58644216, 24 hour low: 213.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 236.13664
Namworld: options, bonds, stocks of bitcoin ventures, etc.
Namworld: There's plenty to be found around already.
Namworld: The actual exchange has a 30 BTC flat fee to join...
ThickAsThieves: pretty sure most of the current exchanges havent been hacked yet
kakobrekla: most of the exchanges so far were hacked
kakobrekla: most of the current one including fiat were
jdeurlruyk: There have definitely been hacks and problems
jdeurlruyk: but much faster to fix than every other bank or central fed
taub: actually any hack is worse when it's done in btc
taub: a hacked bank can roll back the transactions
taub: in btc the money is gone
Namworld: a BTC hack can often doom the business and all customers...
kakobrekla: yes cause you cant just type the numbers back in
jdeurlruyk: thats what we get for not being backed by anything physical, though
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32809 @ 0.00071359 = 23.4122 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28300 @ 0.00071123 = 20.1278 BTC [-]
Namworld: and if the business owners faked the hack, it's pretty much indistinguishable...
wao: when I want buy asicminer-pt shares, how to do it?
jdeurlruyk: Thanks for the help! I have to go back to work *shrug* but I will be back because this is too interesting not to write an econ paper on a few things
jdeurlruyk: Would people be interested in participating in brief interviews on the topic?
jdeurlruyk: obvi no names are attached, just to pick your brains on ideas
jdeurlruyk: a discussion for another day <taub> for now i gotta make sure i can pay rent
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2365 @ 0.00070215 = 1.6606 BTC [-]
dub: its a lot more than expected
ll: supposed to be a low div week too afaik
dub: last was .0025 and he said this would be lower
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.751 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.2390001 = 0.478 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.24 = 1.2 BTC [+]
BitHub: just to top off a beautiful day
mpexbot: deadweasel: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.22 = 0.66 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.241 = 2.41 BTC [-]
gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00293588 = 2.9359 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 239.62588, Best ask: 240.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.37412, Last trade: 240.00000, 24 hour volume: 94220.60089513, 24 hour low: 218.52000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 238.58516
deadweasel: do that does change throughout the day? or changes on tick of midnight?
ThickAsThieves: I'm selling call options for lower than mpex bot, available in 86, 95, 104, 128, 131, 134. No need to pm, they are listed on mpex
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00243 BTC [+]
gribble: MtGox lag is 836.410295 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.67615686626 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
pgp: is the mpex bot offline right now?
pgp: sell, sell, sell !!!
deadweasel: ThickAsThieves: how do you know what mpexbot is buying calls for?
pgp: bot is down - has been for a while
deadweasel: ok, so no prices showon coinbr, makes sense
deadweasel: i can still use the last prices I see on mpex.co for some price data...
gribble: MtGox lag is 1058.278714 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.12077869378 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.75000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.22 = 1.54 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.2 = 2.6 BTC [-]
Bugpowdurr: suddenly it found some funds after the dip below 250 though
Bugpowdurr: I think he turns of sales when the market is in super rally toppy mode.
gribble: There are currently 31798929 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11985801.1795 USD in total. | Data vintage: 67.0128 seconds
Bugpowdurr: I think we need to be above 14M to go up
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2426 = 1.213 BTC [+]
MJR_: gotta get some cash into the exchanges :)
Bugpowdurr: the lag is out of control right now too
gribble: MtGox lag is 1022.119422 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.04831587747 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
MJR_: yeah 1.5 AU's may be part of the reason
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.04000001 = 2.08 BTC [-]
MJR_: but also, still at 250 at bitfloor
ThickAsThieves: lag is from major selloff triggering reordering of soft bids
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.018 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.014 = 3.042 BTC [-]
MJR_: yeah...but not everyone follows this as closely
MJR_: one major selloff+lag = panic for some
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.014 = 2.028 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: what is the official wat to test which price mpex options uses to excercise?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.01100003 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.01100003 BTC [-]
pgp: any place beside bitcoincharts to get trade histories - site timeouts. I'm trying to reconstuct 24 moving avg for last year...
mpexbot: ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [-]
MJR_: and rising past 251 on bitfloor (i think this may be record volume for bitfloor as well)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.21 = 1.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.2 = 2.4 BTC [-]
mpexbot: MJR_: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
MJR_: think both are equal but wanted to test
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99520001 BTC [-]
gribble: MtGox lag is 1189.968031 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.38468261058 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
MJR_: faq predates mpexbot...
deadweasel: could be coincidence. i thought ;;bc was gox only?
MJR_: nah, mpex uses it, so it must be the cross exchange number
MJR_: since mpex doesn't go by gox for options (not only by gox, though it makes up most of the number)
gribble: Error: "goxlog" is not a valid command.
gribble: MtGox lag is 871.828642 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.74713483709 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
mpexbot: ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 233.00000, Best ask: 234.99999, Bid-ask spread: 1.99999, Last trade: 234.99999, 24 hour volume: 93700.32878955, 24 hour low: 220.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 239.14213
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 41 @ 0.00996 = 0.4084 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.01001 = 10.01 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 229.88659, Best ask: 230.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11341, Last trade: 229.88659, 24 hour volume: 93920.89273959, 24 hour low: 220.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 239.14560
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 0 hours, 51 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 231.00000, Best ask: 235.00000, Bid-ask spread: 4.00000, Last trade: 230.62587, 24 hour volume: 93920.89273959, 24 hour low: 220.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 239.14560
Scrat: thestringpuller: where do you see that? I only see trades that were issued 10 minutes ago because gox is a piece of shit
assbot: [HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.18000000 / 0.22859646 / 0.28000000 (421 shares, 96.23910756 BTC), 7D: 0.18000000 / 0.31138451 / 0.47000000 (1490 shares, 463.96291803 BTC), 30D: 0.18000000 / 0.42180339 / 0.79900000 (14359 shares, 6056.67483856 BTC)
gribble: MtGox lag is 586.074302 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.17448633919 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
gribble: There are currently 30682.543 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 5463681.92999 USD in total. | Data vintage: 4.2593 seconds
gribble: There are currently 3087.9525 bitcoins demanded at or over 220.0 USD, worth 691260.620651 USD in total. | Data vintage: 19.8122 seconds
mod6: wow. what is vtx and why did it crash?
gribble: There are currently 3345.7072 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 815592.437721 USD in total. | Data vintage: 34.7430 seconds
pgp: so goddamn frustrating...
mod6: oh that vtx was the canadian exchange 'eh
gribble: MtGox lag is 576.990166 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.15628183236 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 229.11000, Best ask: 230.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 230.00000, 24 hour volume: 94682.35153073, 24 hour low: 220.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 239.10318
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 229.11000, Best ask: 230.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 230.00000, 24 hour volume: 95098.86292173, 24 hour low: 220.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 239.05336
Doffx: It will go to about 211-212
deadweasel: could go 190. could shoot up in the night to 300. who fuggin knows.
Doffx: Oh high of 266 I missed that somehow duh
Doffx: back to 300 tomorrow!
Doffx: anyhow off to do work.
gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
mpexbot: ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
deadweasel: lol, forums down. :) newbs ddosing it to post panic posts
gribble: A market order to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 220609.3737 USD and would take the last price down to 219.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 220.6094 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0002 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 218.50000, Best ask: 226.99999, Bid-ask spread: 8.49999, Last trade: 218.50000, 24 hour volume: 95443.23142610, 24 hour low: 218.50000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 238.94761
gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
pgp: you call this stabilizing?
Scrat: I call this an arbitrary retarded rollercoaster
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 215.12452, Best ask: 220.00000, Bid-ask spread: 4.87548, Last trade: 215.12452, 24 hour volume: 96147.37374937, 24 hour low: 217.11100, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 238.79527
deadweasel: think dwonturn will push $avg down through to the 27th?
deadweasel: 227, no, i don't think you are. i've been preventing myself from clicking exercise all morning.
Bugpowdurr: I'm up a lot on these calls, want to protect the profits
KRS-1: its going back up?
pgp: 105% chance it goes past 200
assbot: [BTCTC] [GOLD] 2 @ 0.06746 = 0.1349 BTC [-]
pgp: if it breaks $200, noob panic will set in...
pgp: 215 going, going. gone...
BitHub: hows your cash looking guys?
assbot: [BTCTC] [GOLD] 3 @ 0.06746 = 0.2024 BTC [-]
mod6: yeah when she bottoms be ready to BTFD
assbot: [BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.06746 BTC [-]
gribble: Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
gribble: Error: "goxlaglag" is not a valid command.
Scrat: you know you have failed at providing a service when people actually bother to graph your lag
taub: btce is at 175 already
taub: implying mtgox lag isnt fucking the price development up
assbot: [BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.06746 BTC [-]
pgp: 175? i don't see that?
mod6: Last Price: 181.996 USD
Scrat: pgp: gotta visit the website. bitcoinity is behind
taub: lag is in the stratosphere
taub: shooting back up right now again
MJR_: just watch the decimal point is my strategy
taub: can we put mtgox to sleep now
deadweasel: put it in a bag and hold it under water.
MJR_: its painful to watch
Scrat: burn the entire deck of cards
pgp: saving yourself from yourself?
ZedsterX: does anyone know the actual price my lags are over 20 mins
taub: there is no actual price
Scrat: 209 on gox, 24h low
gribble: MtGox lag is 1936.838474 seconds. During this time, light travels 3.88140261597 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
pgp: basically a 10 dollar spread right now
mod6: hah, sittin in the asteroid belt
Namworld: which cannot be exploited anyway
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 207.64769, Best ask: 210.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.35231, Last trade: 200.20000, 24 hour volume: 94268.30080656, 24 hour low: 200.57000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 238.09025
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.26 = 2.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.2629 = 0.7887 BTC [+]
pgp: avg hasn't changed at all... something is wrong tith that
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 200.00000, Best ask: 205.00000, Bid-ask spread: 5.00000, Last trade: 200.00000, 24 hour volume: 93585.85587562, 24 hour low: 200.20000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 238.10401
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.26 = 2.6 BTC [-]
MJR_: bitfloor just crashed i think
Bugpowdurr: puts would be nice to buy with a $27 mispricing
pgp: bitfloor been down for a while, eh?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.2629 = 2.629 BTC [+]
Namworld: I think mircea takes the bot offline when these wild swings occur or something
Namworld: so people don't take advantage of the huge average/price difference
pgp: i don't think so... wall is falling
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.263 = 1.315 BTC [+]
Namworld: or bot just goes of when it can't get an average, which is from bitcoincharts which tends to go bust at the same time as MtGox
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2273 @ 0.00069098 = 1.5706 BTC [-]
pgp: well, maybe he only runs the bot when he at his terminal... he's not logged on here...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.263988 = 1.056 BTC [+]
gribble: MtGox lag is 2198.736701 seconds. During this time, light travels 4.40624373052 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).
pgp: we've made it to jupiter!
taub: laglag lag lag alaaaaaaaaaaag we all lag
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.2687 = 1.0748 BTC [+]
pgp: can't wait... saturn is a beautiful sight to behold...
MJR_: does he have pluto?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 200.00000, Best ask: 210.00000, Bid-ask spread: 10.00000, Last trade: 200.00000, 24 hour volume: 95453.02714893, 24 hour low: 200.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 237.25191
pgp: more big prints at 200
MJR_: or is he a planetary purist
MJR_: another obvious dump and buy
pgp: not so sure about that...
bitesak: seems like a possible strategy indeed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2629 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2688 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.268888 = 0.5378 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.289 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.299998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.3 = 15 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 44 @ 0.3 = 13.2 BTC [+]
pgp: picking a bottom on a swift downdraft like this could be painful
bitesak: would you buy puts regardless of the lag at the time of purchase?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.002779 = 1.3895 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00277899 = 6.6696 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2099 @ 0.0027 = 5.6673 BTC [-]
pgp: $10 spread - for real? what a fucking joke!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.12 BTC [+]
gribble: MtGox lag is 2414.772998 seconds. During this time, light travels 4.83917805085 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).
MJR_: blood in the streets
MJR_: 40 minutes lag will do that
Lornzz: may someone give me a pointer to where i can find a satoshidice related channel?
MJR_: i guess no one has declared self-help?
pgp: <Bugpowdurr> feeling better about exercising?
jborkl_: btce and virtex are showing 170
MJR_: ;;calc (227.18-164)/227.18
Scrat: i think gox just died
bitesak: can I exercise now on coinbr?
FabianB_: Lornzz: about investing or gambling?
bitesak: it will be based on the avg price?
gribble: MtGox lag is 2513.197929 seconds. During this time, light travels 5.03642051055 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).
pgp: just imagine if gox supported buy stop and sell stop orders...
Lornzz: FabianB_: gambling related
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 194.10508, Best ask: 200.00000, Bid-ask spread: 5.89492, Last trade: 194.10508, 24 hour volume: 96446.18641015, 24 hour low: 194.10508, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 236.68617
gribble: MtGox lag is 2521.606381 seconds. During this time, light travels 5.05327095421 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).
Lornzz: which forums are you talking about? bitcoinstalk.org?
pgp: avg price is not working correctly... for sure
MJR_: i just exercised at the exact same as the bot said
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 193.15000, Best ask: 199.29345, Bid-ask spread: 6.14345, Last trade: 193.15000, 24 hour volume: 96446.18641015, 24 hour low: 194.10508, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 236.68617
pgp: that number hasn't changed in over an hour
Bugpowdurr: yeah, despite the bitcoincharts number updating
bitesak: drama has to come from somewhere
pgp: can't get to bitcoincharts - what do it say?
Bugpowdurr: its was 229.11 but sure that has dropped since then.
pgp: 236 avg for gox alone
pgp: bitcoinity down for me too...
pgp: bitfloor still down too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.285 = 2.28 BTC [-]
pgp: now relegated to hitting refresh on gox website....
bitesak: exercising your calls is not enough?
Scrat: pgp: you can join #bitcoin-market , amphipod seems to have a telepathic connection to exchanges
gesell: any time max keiser opens his mouth things go to shit
mod6: well, max & stacy were talking every day like buy buy buy
gesell: i'd love to see a panel with mircea_popescu and max keiser together :P
mod6: and these "journalists" on all the blogs and ZH, etc, nothing but just garbage reporting.
mod6: i even liked ZH for a while, but this stuff lately has been outright retarded
mircea_popescu: gesell he kinda got his ass handed to him last week so
MJR_: no one selling calls?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2629 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 194.17125, Best ask: 198.00000, Bid-ask spread: 3.82875, Last trade: 183.00000, 24 hour volume: 97280.46863889, 24 hour low: 183.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 235.67905
gesell: mircea_popescu: where was that, i didnt see
MJR_: Mtgox is currently having some issue. Only orders routed to Bitfinex will be processed until Mtgox service has returned to normal.
mircea_popescu: gesell on twitter. he was all herpderp bitcoin went to 150 as predicted now it is going to 500
MJR_: 20 point spread on bfx
MJR_: you will see the flood of buy orders from 30 minutes ago start to come in now i think, we are trading with people in the past now
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 183.00000, Best ask: 190.00000, Bid-ask spread: 7.00000, Last trade: 190.00000, 24 hour volume: 97280.46863889, 24 hour low: 183.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 235.67905
gribble: MtGox lag is 3141.535095 seconds. During this time, light travels 6.295601156 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).
deadweasel: Scrat is right, get a good subset of exchange prices at #bitcoin-market
pgp: yep - good call, scrat
gesell: gox should lower the number of bids one can make based on current lag. that way small orders can drag things down, aand its analog'ish enough that as they fix lag issues even buts can do what they want
gesell: btw, anyone have a contact to magicaltux? I would like to inform him of this 0day that would crash the websockets interface.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 180.00000, Best ask: 198.00000, Bid-ask spread: 18.00000, Last trade: 180.00000, 24 hour volume: 97429.84097955, 24 hour low: 180.75700, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 235.29545
gesell: yeah i mentioned it here 2 or 3 months ago but havent published it at all
Scrat: Bugpowdurr: then it's a.... 3month
gesell: no user magicaltux around these parts
gesell: deadweasel: not publically at least and the current dos's are actually DDoS or 1:1 dos. Not crashing the interface, as far as ive hard
gesell: so no, no one has used it yet
pigeons: he is here, look in #mtgox and check your spelling
Scrat: gesell: to which websocket daemon does that apply?
gesell: socket.io lib of nodejs
MJR_: i was hoping today would be exciting
gesell: tested it once, watched it go down and come right back up (meaning there is some mitigation to this)
MJR_: isn't socket.io supposed to fail over to other transport mechanisms?
Scrat: well, correlation is not causation
gribble: MtGox lag is 3440.907279 seconds. During this time, light travels 6.8955396608 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).
Scrat: download node, set it up and test it
MJR_: i have an instance running right now, and it does fall back to xhr
Scrat: MJR_: fallback has nothing to do with node crashing though
gesell: Scrat: this is true. im not looking for anything from this but actually the way i and friend came to this was because he was working on a project for google that used the same lib and he found the problem there. so i would just pass it along if possible
Scrat: gesell: I actually use socket.io heavily and I've worked on a pretty big deployment of it last year
gesell: Scrat: we were able to at least confirm in a local test enviornment that the lib for nodejs has the problem, and could replicate
bitesak: I get the cloudflare Always Up farce
pgp: 518 coins offered 120
Scrat: it aint a fluke either, been < 130 for the last 20 mins
MJR_: you sure it is USD?
MJR_: i know, i love that part
MJR_: blood in the streets
MJR_: i don't care what you give me, just take this NAO
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.2629 = 2.3661 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.284 = 5.68 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.3 = 3.3 BTC [+]
jborkl_: people are realizing how much bitcoins and $ virtex is making
pgp: i hear a popping sound...
jborkl_: especially with gox all fucked up
Chilca: how can you check gox order book or price?
MJR_: Bugpowder_: how much?
taub: only mtgox source right now for me is the stream from bitcoin charts
taub: i guess their ticker still works too
MJR_: i'm watching #bitcoin-market
gesell: wow, this is a new test of the market for certain
taub: no point in looking at book data, 60min lag
farfi: good time to shut of the computer :)
taub: yea, well this was long overdue
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 156.01003, Best ask: 180.00000, Bid-ask spread: 23.98997, Last trade: 180.00000, 24 hour volume: 100647.42874735, 24 hour low: 157.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 232.22003
taub: if you look at a 240m chart it doesnt look that bad, considering the steep upmove
taub: that i bought in back at 250
pgp: whoops, there went the bitfloor book again...
taub: after selling at 220
gesell: taub: you are in good company. i purchased some new coin at 250 as well
taub: goxlag is just compounding this crash...
MJR_: hope they all sell already and go away
Namworld: 150? Nah, going to fall like flies
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 156.01003, Best ask: 180.00000, Bid-ask spread: 23.98997, Last trade: 156.01003, 24 hour volume: 100861.53781031, 24 hour low: 156.01003, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 231.92817
mircea_popescu: whoever sees tux can tell him that gox leeched ~5mn dollars off the community this month.
Scrat: Bugpowder_: are you sure the wall at 150 is real?
taub: Bugpowder_: it's already ay 156
MJR_: i'm seeing 109 on bitfloor
MJR_: and now back to 148
MJR_: its funny that they think of limit orders as "too advanced" but i think the market order should come with two warnings
taub: looks like i caught the wrong end of this
mircea_popescu: where's that quote where i say "every dollar over 100 is a dollar lost "?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 170.00000, Best ask: 180.00000, Bid-ask spread: 10.00000, Last trade: 180.00000, 24 hour volume: 100861.53781031, 24 hour low: 156.01003, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 231.92817
gesell: anyone, what happen to the huge lower buy walls that were there about 30 minutes before the crash?
gesell: were they removed, soaked up?
taub: i wonder what max kaiser is spouting now
pgp: i wonder when cnbc is pick up this story...
Namworld: Max Kaiser has cashed out already and is wondering what else he's going to pump & dump now?
taub: oh his twitter has been slient for 4 h :D
MJR_: eh, all this day to day is silly anyway, 100k or 0...
MJR_: but i appreciate the buying opportunity
taub: im not concerned long run
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 181.00000, Best ask: 195.00000, Bid-ask spread: 14.00000, Last trade: 175.00000, 24 hour volume: 100987.02516697, 24 hour low: 156.01003, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 231.76704
taub: but i want to use opportunities to aquire more coins
taub: so far i missed a big one here
MJR_: ah cuz you didn't get out and get back in? there will be many more crashes in the future
MJR_: rallying on bitfloor
mircea_popescu: Apr 03 14:11:19 <Bugpowder> getting tempted of shaving of a bit
mircea_popescu: Apr 03 14:11:22 <mircea_popescu> and when they finally panic they'll expect actual players to buy from them.
mircea_popescu: Apr 03 14:11:25 <mircea_popescu> it won't happen over 100.
mircea_popescu: Apr 03 14:11:37 <mircea_popescu> so basicvally... any dollar over 100 anyone pays on a btc is a dollar lost.
MJR_: kakobrekla i think between 0 and 80k
MJR_: guess the dump and buy is done huh?
bitesak: would like to see the lag down before calling it done
gribble: MtGox lag is 4304.957932 seconds. During this time, light travels 8.62708749502 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
MJR_: YAY we made it past jupiter!
MJR_: if we slingshot, we could have made it past saturn
gesell: like i said, what happen to the 2 huge near $1m buy walls about $5 and $15 below market price that were there about 30 min before the crash?
MJR_: gesell: i would imagine that once they cleared the book, they pulled those and then watched it sink
MJR_: simply market manipulation
taub: $50 spread on the gox now
gesell: MJR_: yeah I'm not sure. Wouldnt assume that yet, unless someone saw them when they were up, and saw them removed just before the crash
MJR_: gesell: i wasn't watching them, but absolutely nothing changed since yesterday and today
MJR_: if anything, i think this is someone very bullish, who just didn't want to pay full price
MJR_: perhaps a big fund or something
ThickAsThieves: this was people that were smart enoug to realize 265 was a ridic price
MJR_: on bitfloor it just ticked at 195
pgp: second chance to sell
MJR_: kakobrekla: why ridiculous?
MJR_: i think in the grand scheme of things, it'll look cheap at 10x that
pgp: somebody tell those buys that the crash is over...
MJR_: eh, picture ten years in the future
gribble: MtGox lag is 4530.11715 seconds. During this time, light travels 9.07830404688 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
MJR_: and put that against a $265 betg
MJR_: i don't care about the $265, so it actually really doesn't matter what price i pay
ThickAsThieves: youre nuts if you think 10 years will paint a totally new landscape
pgp: too far, too fast...
MJR_: ThickAsThieves: the world will be unrecognizable
MJR_: i want to go drink some tears from redditors...brb
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 172.00000, Best ask: 190.97000, Bid-ask spread: 18.97000, Last trade: 190.97000, 24 hour volume: 101854.75453118, 24 hour low: 150.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 229.94480
MJR_: ugh people are so amazingly stupid
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 180.00000, Best ask: 190.97000, Bid-ask spread: 10.97000, Last trade: 180.00000, 24 hour volume: 101854.75453118, 24 hour low: 150.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 229.94480
MJR_: with crazy market orders, you get ticks at 197 and then 150
MJR_: LOL just saw 224 on bitfloor
pgp: 30 point spread on bitfloor
taub: i hope everyone switches to bitfloor or something
taub: mtgox is done after this
Scrat: taub: sadly no. stockholm syndrome
taub: might as well go to bed, nothing gonna happen
taub: price will clime back into 220-240 area
taub: and then drop again
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.235 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 160.00000, Best ask: 177.98034, Bid-ask spread: 17.98034, Last trade: 177.98034, 24 hour volume: 102458.74013324, 24 hour low: 150.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 229.49595
iz: lol, what did you do?!?!
splnkr: I'd give Kraken a try but the fact they have Lorem Ipsum text on their homepage isn't encouraging
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+]
taub: kraken isn't live yet
taub: its just beta with fake money
gribble: MtGox lag is 4497.755235 seconds. During this time, light travels 9.01345113156 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 159.02439, Best ask: 190.00000, Bid-ask spread: 30.97561, Last trade: 159.02439, 24 hour volume: 103170.69059839, 24 hour low: 150.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 228.83195
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+]
jborkl_: If it gets past Pluto I think we are screwed
benkay: ticket to cluetrain plz? did anything in particular blow up?
benkay: is that result or cause
benkay: four thousand second lag.
gribble: MtGox lag is 4375.270055 seconds. During this time, light travels 8.76799220226 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
pgp: their matching engine is totally fubar right now...
pgp: we're gonna break 150
pgp: then more unpleasantness...
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.00000, Best ask: 149.00000, Bid-ask spread: 7.00000, Last trade: 142.00000, 24 hour volume: 103170.69059839, 24 hour low: 150.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 228.83195
taub: I think mp is smiling right now
pgp: like mana from the heavens
pgp: mpoe bond holders gonna have a good month afterall?
taub: gonna sleep, cya in 5 hours
mod6: still 16 days until options expiration
benkay: mircea_popescu will you be offering longer term options?
mircea_popescu: just as soon as a majority of the trade happens on N month
taub: all those fools that took out loans just to buy at 250 rofl
taub: i wonder what he'll say to this haaa
ThickAsThieves: hmm i'm seeing a couple problems with my coinbr excercisings
ThickAsThieves: got 0 back from things that shouldnt have been total losses
pgp: I wonder how badly bitfinex fared - lots of margin selling into non-existent market
benkay: what do y'all anticipate the market to bottom out at?
benkay: and expected 'retrace' (i think is the correct word?)
jcpham: so how are you guys doing
jcpham: i thought we were taking it over 9000 for sure
Scrat: mtgox x25 18.6796 @ 127.54566208 USD
jcpham: now that we see $100 swings are feasible there's actual money to be made
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.00000, Best ask: 156.92398, Bid-ask spread: 31.92398, Last trade: 125.00000, 24 hour volume: 107629.21996269, 24 hour low: 126.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 223.42581
Scrat: jcpham: yes, very easy if you have direct access to the engine
Scrat: and noone will notice
pgp: bugpowder: 91 your number?
pgp: you could fly a dreamline throught that spread... ridiculous...
mpexbot: ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
pgp: and coinlab has no data at all...
pgp: and some guy bought on bitfloor at 197... lol
pgp: where are the "adults"?
Bert__: Anyone have speculated any particular reason why Bitcoin went down so rapiply.. Or is is just another expected correction to price that has raised too rapidly?
scottjp: Where's mircea? Are we under attack?
benkay: this publicity campaign again.
topace|2: be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful
jborkl_: Mp, did you push the big red button? lol
pgp: good book: reminiscences of a stock operator
scottjp: all the major sites are unresponsive - ddos or just traffic?
jborkl_: I'VE got my finger on the button
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+]
iz: scottjp: ever see a bunch of fat guys try to go through the same doorway at the same time?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0027 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: scottjp all the minor sites (ie, everything other than mpex) just plain sucks.
Namworld: Is it me or we'll get a VERY good month for S.MPOE?
Namworld: I think most people were holding calls...
mod6: yeah, was I the only one that still had puts?
mircea_popescu: Namworld it was about half calls half puts as i pointed out to jurov / he wanted to quote on the forum etc.
mod6: well, they're listed now ...
gribble: MtGox lag is 3858.490312 seconds. During this time, light travels 7.73237138344 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [+]
benkay: does this market even do price discovery with that much trading latency?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 116.00000, Best ask: 150.00000, Bid-ask spread: 34.00000, Last trade: 116.00000, 24 hour volume: 110659.55530272, 24 hour low: 116.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 220.40982
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 127.21951, Best ask: 133.38538, Bid-ask spread: 6.16587, Last trade: 150.00000, 24 hour volume: 110659.55530272, 24 hour low: 116.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 220.40982
pgp: oh... spread narrowed
salinawyldcat: how do you check the time stamp of the lowest trade?
gribble: MtGox lag is 3854.391173 seconds. During this time, light travels 7.72415675478 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
gribble: MtGox lag is 3847.828407 seconds. During this time, light travels 7.71100504519 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU).
pgp: <+amphipod> Apr10 19:14:55 mtgox x3 13.8943 @ 112.35606189 USD
scottjp: As I see it - we have broken into the mainstream ever so slightly and our systems don't hold up. This is part of the process I guess - this will help us improve - but it's pretty embarrassing
Scrat: porngo.at handled the load like a champ
pgp: fuck ya, it's embarassing...
pgp: yesterday, I was having cocktails with VCs and everyone wants to talk to me about bitcoins - after today, they won't even recognize me
jcpham: pgp i hope you mentioned to them about the manipulation
pgp: may 50 is the bottom?
MJR_: you guys are trading with the past right now
MJR_: market orders from an hour ago
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 110.00000, Best ask: 149.07778, Bid-ask spread: 39.07778, Last trade: 149.07778, 24 hour volume: 111779.96618126, 24 hour low: 111.24300, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 219.22259
gribble: MtGox lag is 3401.086096 seconds. During this time, light travels 6.81573845593 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU).
jcpham: ijs if you are talking to money you should understand the market is heavily manipulated
jcpham: the money needs to know someone can make a power play daily
MJR_: bitfloor is holding steady at 155
OgNasty: Anyone have a list of sites that take payment based on the 24 hour average?
MJR_: or even better, they can make power plays daily
pgp: nothing different than fiat markets
MJR_: thats why market orders are pretty dumb in a supper laggy shit engine
jcpham: how many bubbles will we see though
MJR_: i'm guessing i'll get a good price in an hour from now
mod6: and whats this I heard about gox limiting orders to 100 at a time?
jcpham: bitcoin is like an economics history in hyperdrive
mircea_popescu: MJR_ there's two things biotcoin investors are too smart for : mpex and limit orders.
mod6: that was supposed to go into effect today?
jcpham: which bubble was today
evoorhees: well then I will have an awesome capital loss deduction on my taxes
gribble: There are currently 42631227 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 6143603.12416 USD in total. | Data vintage: 32.8264 seconds
pgp: 150, 122, 150, 122...
MJR_: i'm gonna get back to coding, i'll check back in a few hours
bgupta: well if one is a believer, this could become a great opportunity… to pick up more coins
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.27 = 1.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.28649 = 0.573 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2864999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2865 = 0.573 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2867 = 0.5734 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.287 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.287 = 0.574 BTC [+]
pgp: this shit *is* distracting - that's for sure...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.2875 = 3.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.288 = 0.576 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2898 = 0.8694 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.294 = 0.588 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.298 = 5.364 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 23 @ 0.299 = 6.877 BTC [+]
MJR_: in expectation of people dumping coins cuz of crash?
mod6: well pgp this is the most important thing in our generation, its hard not to pay attention.
bgupta: If it hits 50, I will sell some things that I don't really want to part with to take a larger btc position
mod6: im glue'd as well :]
Bugpowda: looks like the first wave of buys are starting to hit
Scrat: so who else made bank today, other than magicaltux
Bugpowda: I hope there is still one 20000 BTC market sell waiting to hit.
pgp: yep - glued - soon to be enjoyed with a drink in hand - it's five o'clock somewhere, right?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.37103 = 2.2262 BTC [-]
OgNasty: I can't even get an order through gox...
OgNasty: Can't bounce if people can't buy.
mod6: and bitcoin will live to fight another day
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 695 @ 0.00319 = 2.2171 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.003195 = 15.975 BTC [+]
pgp: bitstamp seems to be normalized at 122
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 13 @ 0.37102 = 4.8233 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7342 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.732 BTC [-]
punkman: do limit orders work on bitstamp?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7313 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.727 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.702 = 1.404 BTC [-]
MJR_: yep thats my point, we are watching a farce play out, but we can't intervene
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7013 = 3.5065 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.70014 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 0.7001 = 9.1013 BTC [-]
MJR_: its like watching a distant galaxy's war...its already been done
gribble: MtGox lag is 1887.856924 seconds. During this time, light travels 3.7832441382 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
gribble: There are currently 42736435 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 6196428.4601 USD in total. | Data vintage: 54.2196 seconds
punkman: I gotta start calling in favours, get some cash on an exchange, start buying during dips
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.309 = 3.708 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.003289 = 5.2624 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 130.00000, Best ask: 134.20757, Bid-ask spread: 4.20757, Last trade: 134.20757, 24 hour volume: 115349.53392103, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 214.70630
lololo: godzilla fucked the gox hamster
mircea_popescu: maybe someone in the crows that's not mentally retarded manages to notice what service mtgox is delivering for 1mn a month.
pgp: 6.2MM ... that's a big haircut
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7001 = 1.4002 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 106.10000, Best ask: 149.00000, Bid-ask spread: 42.90000, Last trade: 106.10000, 24 hour volume: 115349.53392103, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 214.70630
MJR_: hopefully we will have some real information soon
pgp: the problem with lag and subsequent huge spreads is that regulators will now have something tangible to point to vis-a-vis protecting the consumers...
pgp: fucks it up for all of us
OgNasty: hard to complain about triple digit BTCs...
pgp: let's hope it stays that way
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 158.60300, Best ask: 164.78000, Bid-ask spread: 6.17700, Last trade: 158.60300, 24 hour volume: 116200.68527493, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 213.66190
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 0.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 72.6251 seconds
gribble: There are currently 42879652 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 6016501.54882 USD in total. | Data vintage: 72.7408 seconds
MJR_: buying opportunity of the year?
pgp: mtgox replaced their graph - what a joke
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.089 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.5674 seconds
pgp: 6MM bid... was 6.2MM 10 min ago...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [+]
pgp: methinks more short-term downside...
OgNasty: I'm trying to buy... At 106. :)
ThickAsThieves: sell button on Gox isnt even functioning right now, are we just watching all the past orders of the day thru goxlag
bitesak: lets have a lag close to 0 and then assess
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00069098 / 0.00070945 / 0.000715 (160086 shares, 113.57 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.00069029 / 0.00071514 (2045008 shares, 1,411.66 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068765 / 0.00077505 (9412586 shares, 6,472.64 BTC)
gribble: There are currently 51776.79 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999.0 USD, worth 2899007691.85 USD in total. | Data vintage: 50.1436 seconds
gribble: MtGox lag is 645.385533 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.29334538204 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
MJR_: 10 minutes, back to normal?
OgNasty: sell button works fine on my pc... interestingly it doesn't work on my mac...
gribble: Error: 'o' is not a valid floating point number.
gribble: There are currently 42901822 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 6983685.78301 USD in total. | Data vintage: 91.2011 seconds
gribble: There are currently 34271.076 bitcoins offered at or under 300.0 USD, worth 7910977.33468 USD in total. | Data vintage: 96.3186 seconds
pgp: orders coming back onto book - looks like...
bgupta: so quesiton for old time traders.. other than the big selloff in 11 (and the "fork flashcrash") have we ever seen such a dramatic downward price move? Basically 50% as fast as gox could handle it
bitesak: at the time of bitcoinica we did
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 35 @ 0.00325 = 0.1138 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 91 @ 0.003205 = 0.2917 BTC [-]
KRS-1: sell button wasnt working for me on gox
KRS-1: its okay with me though im good
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.691 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.69 BTC [-]
lololo: that was the killing blow for mtgox
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.6269 = 1.8807 BTC [-]
lololo: who in the right mind will ever trade there again?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.3095 = 1.857 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 124.00000, Best ask: 130.00000, Bid-ask spread: 6.00000, Last trade: 130.00000, 24 hour volume: 118103.42036012, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 211.81434
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.31 = 2.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.31 = 0.93 BTC [+]
gribble: MtGox lag is 728.692788 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.4602921883 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.315 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 120.00000, Best ask: 129.00000, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000, Last trade: 120.00000, 24 hour volume: 118103.42036012, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 211.81434
gribble: MtGox lag is 724.106535 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.45110138864 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
jborkl_: pirate weekend was 11.5 to 7
mod6: (12:50) < mircea_popescu> but no, glbse didn't even register
mod6: oops maybe that was pirate stuff i was remembering...
mod6: haha, can't look at bitcoincharts either for the history. thats ded too.
bgupta: gotcha… wishing it would come back to 50
jcpham: can't even pronounce cumparari with out laughing
bgupta: should be interesting to graph the bottoms of all 30%+ drops..
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 131.65510, Best ask: 139.00000, Bid-ask spread: 7.34490, Last trade: 131.00000, 24 hour volume: 117610.35167010, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 210.73940
bgupta: I have to run. be back later.
thestring: gribble seems to still be able to connect to gox
gribble: jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 20 hours, 34 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <jurov> mircea_popescu, withdrawals pls
gribble: MtGox lag is 774.288923 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.55166633232 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 127.00000, Best ask: 134.00000, Bid-ask spread: 7.00000, Last trade: 134.00000, 24 hour volume: 117610.35167010, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 210.73940
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.31 = 3.41 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.09 = 3.27 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 127.21951, Best ask: 143.06527, Bid-ask spread: 15.84576, Last trade: 149.99999, 24 hour volume: 118890.16565084, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 209.86283
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.315 = 0.945 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3331 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3331 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.003289 = 0.3289 BTC [+]
gribble: MtGox lag is 815.718806 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.63469135398 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 131.13000, Best ask: 133.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.87000, Last trade: 133.00000, 24 hour volume: 122718.37665676, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 207.67786
Bugpowda: probably bullish for S.DICE BTC valuation
pigeons: nah there hasnt been any correlation shown in btc/usd price and s.dice profits/bets
Bugpowda: pigeons: I'm not saying there has been.
pigeons: but s.dice should have a good yield this month
Bugpowda: but that is why people just bought some
pigeons: ThickAsThieves: to disagree just show it to me
ThickAsThieves: you think we'll see another 15k profit month at $250 BTC/USD anytime soon?
Bugpowda: I kinda like goxlag. If you know what you are doing, you can profit from it I think.
pigeons: i asked for a correlation seen in the past, not "do you think we'll see x anytime soon"
KRS-1: i think i gotta go have a drink..
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.54194, Best ask: 140.00000, Bid-ask spread: 10.45806, Last trade: 129.00000, 24 hour volume: 123531.05189806, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 207.12602
KRS-1: this would be a scotch day
Bugpowda: Got filled at 133.335, but my 121.25 is languishing on the book
Doffx: Will thos 260 options drop in price I wonder
Bugpowda: surpised that it didn't snap back harder yet.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GOLD] 3 @ 0.12381 = 0.3714 BTC [+]
Doffx: Im not, Mtgox is the issue.
Doffx: You would think they would have fixed that by now.
OgNasty: I'm getting buys filled at 123 and sells filled at 145 simulatneously...
rikur: damn, might be too late to get money in
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 139.94146, Best ask: 143.85158, Bid-ask spread: 3.91012, Last trade: 148.00000, 24 hour volume: 125333.65136459, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 205.77171
gribble: MtGox lag is 636.652305 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.27584409091 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU).
assbot: [BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.12381 BTC [+]
Bugpowda: up up and away... Back to 200.
Doffx: What is the fastest way to get money in anyhow
Bugpowda: mircea_popescu: bitcoinity is way behind
Doffx: I have never found a good way other than dealing with OTC
mod6: btc-e was at 170 a minute ago...
Bugpowda: I am watching everything at once
mircea_popescu: "I'm a 25 year old guy from College Station, Texas. I am married to the most wonderful woman in the world, and I love Jesus. I'm a huge fan of creative brainstorming sessions, unmanned aerial vehicles, geeky microcontroller electronics projects, and games of disc golf with friends."
Bugpowda: 'm a 25 year old guy from College Station, Texas. I am married to the most wonderful woman in the world, and I love Jesus.
Scrat: in love with jesus
pigeons: which is worse, disc golf or jesus?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.40075, Best ask: 149.00000, Bid-ask spread: 8.59925, Last trade: 140.40075, 24 hour volume: 127462.62102141, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 204.43302
mod6: pigeons: good question
gribble: MtGox lag is 596.95149 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.19628410216 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
pigeons: its more boring than real gold
Bugpowda: it's like ultimate frisbee if you aren't good at running
mod6: Bugpowda: aint no body got time for that
Bugpowda: meh... got my bids... ttyl. time to catch up on work
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 29 @ 0.28 = 8.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.09 = 2.18 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.28 = 2.8 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 149.00000, Best ask: 149.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.99000, Last trade: 149.00000, 24 hour volume: 131603.19396295, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 201.95839
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 26 @ 0.2933 = 7.6258 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.09 = 4.36 BTC [+]
mod6: still over 500s of lag... jeeze
assbot: [BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.12381 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 42 @ 0.31 = 13.02 BTC [-]
Bowjob: I feel for the fucker who bought at 266, and sold at 105
lololo: the old buy high sell low
kakobrekla: i cant belive i snatched a few 78 on stamp today
lololo: china will rescue us ;)
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 151.00000, Best ask: 160.00000, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000, Last trade: 160.00000, 24 hour volume: 135121.67227778, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 200.43051
gribble: MtGox lag is 438.092694 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.877932853646 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Bowjob: im to desensitized to this
Bowjob: i sold some, so i cant lose
mod6: oh i tought you mean the goxlag. lol
mod6: that's becoming way too common
Bowjob: 50% wednesday todaaaaaaaay
Bowjob: this could be a present for my cakeday
Bowjob: It all makes sense. i had my shirt backwards
MJR_: this was orchestrated
MJR_: if anything, i think they found their plan a success
MJR_: and expect overall MORE buying
MJR_: but the whole fun of bitcoin is how easy it is to manipulate the market
gribble: MtGox lag is 518.343624 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.03875481883 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
assbot: [BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.1238 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 42635939 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11082243.7308 USD in total. | Data vintage: 9.3239 seconds
gribble: MtGox lag is 503.166845 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.00834072364 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
gribble: There are currently 35956.287 bitcoins offered at or under 300.0 USD, worth 8469650.61604 USD in total. | Data vintage: 28.7736 seconds
Bowjob: maybe ian will turn legit?
Bowjob: rikur where are you brah
TomServo: bitcoinforecast reports -111 short term, 407 long term. nbd.
gribble: MtGox lag is 534.079881 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.07029010167 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
Bowjob: its the goxlag thats hurting it
rikur: Bowjob: yeah I missed the dip
MJR_: hopefully this forces people off of gox
Bugpowda: 6:52] <+amphipod> Apr10 18:39:01 bitstamp x65 384.5677 @ 89.57359346 USD!!!
Bowjob: seems that gox is at175
Bowjob: according to bitcoinstore
MJR_: kakobrekla: you really got $80?
kakobrekla: i bought at 200 and 150 too on the way down if it makes you feel any better
assbot: Hell, ain't we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 179.00000, Best ask: 189.00000, Bid-ask spread: 10.00000, Last trade: 179.00000, 24 hour volume: 141513.64558635, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 198.84086
rikur: dump and pump is dangerous, so I'm sort of glad I missed it..
gribble: Error: "lag" is not a valid command.
gribble: MtGox lag is 581.765251 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.16585104924 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU).
rikur: oh well, it should be back to 220 today
ThickAsThieves: i WANT to like the price recovering so quickly, but I worry that it puts us at the same exact exposure we were at this morning
Bowjob: Rikur, lets buy $100 hotdogs for
TomServo: So my open bid @ 64 might have a chance?! haha
rikur: Bowjob: hehe, I'll wait a day or two to get hot dogs for -50% :p
ThickAsThieves: i have proof ready that SDICE betting is affected by USD/BTC rate