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thestringpuller: jurov lemme use coinbr for free
thestringpuller: jkjk
jurov: O? And why?
jurov: (hopes for jk punchline)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.763 = 1.526 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: !ticker btctc asicminer-ot
assbot: Shit. You ain't even old enough to smoke.
thestringpuller: !ticker btctc asicminer-pt
assbot: [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.76 / 0.78376 / 0.795 (205 shares, 160.7 BTC), 7D: 0.683004 / 0.76178 / 0.795 (1253 shares, 954.5 BTC), 30D: 0.59998 / 0.77589 / 0.9489 (7745 shares, 6009.3 BTC)
thestringpuller: !ticker h him
assbot: [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.89000000 / 1.92735294 / 1.93000000 (17 shares, 32.76500000 BTC), 7D: 1.82000000 / 1.90417629 / 2.05990000 (97 shares, 184.70510000 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.85736363 / 2.08000000 (693 shares, 1287.15299230 BTC)
jurov: ;;rate thestringpuller -1 "joke's on you"
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
jurov: but no, you're a friend :)
FabianB_: 22:59 < jurov> everyone is tired from it :D <-- yeah, but so all the buyers are new?
jurov: how does it follow?
jurov: i meant, btcusd tired us
jurov: hence the silence
jborkl_: mtgox socket down fo 95 minutes now
FabianB_: yeah, but trading goes on
jurov: where? bitcoinity says 235s
jurov: ohh you mean whole socket api down, not lag?
jborkl_: yes
jurov: they will follow mpex lead. no socket api (or third party only)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2802 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.28 = 0.56 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.258 = 0.516 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.25 = 0.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.24 BTC [-]
jurov: then withdrawals will get deprecated
bgupta: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/04/inside-the-bitcoin-bubble-bitinstants-ceo.html
jborkl_: equity is getting shit on, for now
bgupta: jborkl_: btc equity?
jborkl_: stocks
FabianB_: if all the buyers are new, we might crash soon when press slows down
jurov: define crash... some fellows here call even correction to 170 a "crash"
jborkl_: buyers are interested in other things for now, but obtaining bitcoins is getting more and more expensive. therefore will be worth more later
bgupta: counter-trend correction more likely before press slowdown if past is any indicator.
FabianB_: like < 100
jborkl_: yeah, we go from 20 to 200 and people scream when it goes to 170
bgupta: crash to me would be price drop of >50%.
FabianB_: who knows
bgupta: jborkl_: stocks seem ok? https://www.google.com/finance?q=INDEXDJX:.DJI
bgupta: or you talking btc exchange stocks lie sdice am etc
bgupta: they seem ok?
jborkl_: I don't look at fiat stocks
bgupta: which btc stocks are crashing?
bgupta: err getting shit on
bgupta: (not crashing)
bgupta: right now we have churn… hard to say what will happen when it breaks.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.7624 = 15.248 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7624 = 7.624 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7623 = 3.0492 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76211 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: asicminer crashing!
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.762027 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.762024 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.762022 BTC [-]
bgupta: not really...
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.762021 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.762 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7611 = 7.611 BTC [-]
jborkl_: That is correct, I said they were getting shit on
jborkl_: not crashing
jurov: https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q="bitcoin"&date=today+1-m&cmpt=q
ThickAsThieves: The Great ASICminer Crash of 4-8-13
bgupta: on volume of what 50 shares?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76011 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75502 BTC [-]
jborkl_: I did not name a stock
jurov: upward trend stopped.. but dunno whether recent google data is reliable
jcpham: so guys
bgupta: AM really is stuck in a trading range.
jcpham: i was just doing some maths
jcpham: and all those loans i made... that never repaid me
jcpham: $290,000
ThickAsThieves: upward trend is still there whatcha mean?
ThickAsThieves: https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=bitcoin&date=1%2F2013%2012m&cmpt=q
jurov: double facepalm /o\ /o\
ThickAsThieves: lesson learned, dont loan btc
jcpham: that doesn't even make sense to me
ThickAsThieves: the chart?
ThickAsThieves: google is dumb and noted incomplete data as a cliff
jcpham: the relative value
bgupta: that data is not realtime
jcpham: all bitcoin searches halted
jcpham: no one cares anymore
ThickAsThieves: surely
ThickAsThieves: that would make the most sense
jcpham: i'm glad we can see eye to eye on this
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.30499999 BTC [-]
jurov: disregard today... it seems declining since wednesday... i doubt it takes them 3 days to aggregate all data
jcpham: i thought you were about to say people were still searching for bitcoin
jcpham: and the google data in incomplete
jborkl_: socket down for 110 minutes now
jcpham: but i'm pretty sure all bitcoin searches basically stopped
ThickAsThieves: lol
jcpham: all at once if by magic
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.89 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.81 = 10.86 BTC [-]
unbalanced_: jborkl_, agree with you re: BTC equities having a bad run: VTX just traded on Havelock for 0.24, down huge from 0.799 peak
bgupta: new articles keep popping up like this http://www.zdnet.com/how-to-buy-and-sell-bitcoins-part-1-theory-7000013661/
bgupta: scarey "howtos"
ThickAsThieves: i sold all my vtx in high 70s
ThickAsThieves: twas fun
unbalanced_: yeah, to me. thanks again
ll: so that was you lol
bgupta: vtx is what?
unbalanced_: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=VTX
ThickAsThieves: cavirtex
ThickAsThieves: canadian currency exchange
ThickAsThieves: canuckoins
unbalanced_: The Mt. Gox of Canadia
ll: mm $207/btc there?
bgupta: gotcha
unbalanced_: Where BTC has already crossed $200 CAD, btw.
jborkl_: cad
bgupta: although there really is only one mtgox
ThickAsThieves: CAD is not real money
ThickAsThieves: is why
unbalanced_: Yes, at least Virtex functions...
unbalanced_: CAD = "dollarettes"
ThickAsThieves: hehe
bgupta: ;;volume
gribble: Error: "volume" is not a valid command.
bgupta: ;;ticker
ThickAsThieves: Currently Almost a Dollar
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 183.75000, Best ask: 183.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 183.95000, 24 hour volume: 111564.57755450, 24 hour low: 160.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 180.22433
bgupta: wow 111K not bad.
Bugpowder: Havelock bubble finally popping?
ThickAsThieves: yep, i started trading there
thestringpuller: huh?
thestringpuller: !ticker h him
assbot: [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.81000000 / 1.89166667 / 1.93000000 (21 shares, 39.72500000 BTC), 7D: 1.81000000 / 1.89860673 / 2.05990000 (104 shares, 197.45510000 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.85700427 / 2.08000000 (700 shares, 1299.90299230 BTC)
Bugpowder: Xrp sure is popping
Bugpowder: Down down down
bgupta: http://btctrading.wordpress.com/
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.763 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 93.631956 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.187637391468 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 184.00000, Best ask: 185.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 185.00000, 24 hour volume: 111564.57755450, 24 hour low: 160.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 180.22433
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00301846 = 0.3018 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: !ticker h him
assbot: [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.81000000 / 1.88975 / 1.93000000 (20 shares, 37.79500000 BTC), 7D: 1.81000000 / 1.89860673 / 2.05990000 (104 shares, 197.45510000 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.85700427 / 2.08000000 (700 shares, 1299.90299230 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.24 = 1.68 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: why is VTX crashing so hard anyway?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.81 = 5.43 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 14 @ 0.14952605 = 2.0934 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: $avg
mpexbot: ThickAsThieves: 179.97
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 500 @ 0.01 = 5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00418 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7945 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 6 hours, 26 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
unbalanced_: 24hr vwap now over 180...
bgupta: http://consumerist.com/2013/04/08/nyc-bar-to-allow-patrons-to-buy-drinks-with-bitcoins/
bgupta: Hmmm. gotta try that just to see how smooth it is..
bgupta: talking about the transaction not the whisky.
unbalanced_: ThickAsThieves re: VTX I imagine it's because it stopped going up and some of the people who bought 10K worth noticed there were only a few dozen shares worth of bids over 0.20 BTC
unbalanced_: cue the race for the exits
unbalanced_: also, it doesn't pay a div
unbalanced_: er by "10K worth" I mean the 10,000 shares offered at IPO
unbalanced_: no one buying post IPO to support the price
thestringpuller: !ticker m ^oix
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 108.7315223 / 142.65191654 / 172.70719171 (19154 shares, 4,736.51 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
thestringpuller: ;;seen topace|2
gribble: topace|2 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 3 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <topace|2> !ticker h him
bgupta: who is the admin for bitbet (on IRC)
kakobrekla: me and mircea
thestringpuller: kakobrekla: I want a refund.
thestringpuller: jkjk
thestringpuller: mircea and i* <- technically
kakobrekla: perhaps a slash was missing
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 186.49891, Best ask: 187.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50109, Last trade: 187.00000, 24 hour volume: 112828.65816047, 24 hour low: 161.29378, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 181.24809
ThickAsThieves: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
kakobrekla: i always suspect trading is halted, when i see 0 sec
orkaa: http://i.qkme.me/3tryd1.jpg
kakobrekla: lol
ThickAsThieves: lol
ThickAsThieves: that has crossed my mind too
kakobrekla: my gf is smat enough :(
kakobrekla: smart
ThickAsThieves: i'd say my wife is smart enough, but she's so far removed from bitcoin it would not be so simple
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.80999999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 75 @ 0.00329 = 0.2468 BTC [+]
orkaa: ThickAsThieves: just create an onetime script that sells everything with a market order and transfers it to her bank account
orkaa: or sth :)
benkay: are we talking about bail strategies?
bVector: benkay: http://i.qkme.me/3tryd1.jpg
benkay: ah
benkay: i see you have all chosen where to make your beds on the lady-triangle
benkay: pretty and sane?
benkay: i went with pretty and smart
orkaa: pretty insane
benkay: and you didn't get smart?
benkay: fast/cheap/good pick two in business
benkay: smart/pretty/sane pick two in women
mod6: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 50 minutes and 2 seconds
mod6: wtf
benkay: interdasting...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00065675 = 8.0452 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: its true
mod6: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 230349 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1490 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 10 hours, 19 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8758402.77339 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.14574
orkaa: its not true
orkaa: i've seen stupid+ugly+insane
benkay: talking about the optimization, friend.
kakobrekla: i was speaking about 349 being last block
benkay: not the whole space
benkay: and that, kakobrekla, is interesting.
kakobrekla: ah
kakobrekla: 50 just poped up
kakobrekla: rally may resume
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 186.00001, Best ask: 186.84340, Bid-ask spread: 0.84339, Last trade: 187.00000, 24 hour volume: 113791.55742270, 24 hour low: 161.29378, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 181.32145
mircea_popescu: what, nothing ?
kakobrekla: yeah pft 180
kakobrekla: thats nothing
mircea_popescu: srsly.
punkman: "1. We have only just opened 2. We have no previous history 3. We are taking your money in Advance"
punkman: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.0;topicseen
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.23999999 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: win.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78992 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.23999999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.23999999 = 0.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78993 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7943 = 1.5886 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7944 = 1.5888 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7944 = 1.5888 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.1019 = 0.4076 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.23999999 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ouch
mircea_popescu: !ticker h vtx
assbot: [HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.23999999 / 0.33127558 / 0.39000000 (217 shares, 71.88680004 BTC), 7D: 0.23999999 / 0.42829361 / 0.57499999 (1076 shares, 460.84391999 BTC), 30D: 0.23999999 / 0.4328512 / 0.79900000 (13612 shares, 5891.97053324 BTC)
kakobrekla: what happend there?
mircea_popescu: what happened there
kakobrekla: lol
mircea_popescu: omfg this guy :D
kakobrekla: first.
mircea_popescu: hehehe
mircea_popescu: may the bird of paradise fly up your nose!
kakobrekla: :p
kakobrekla: (not sure is that good or bad)
mircea_popescu: it's an old song
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3856 @ 0.00065705 = 2.5336 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 873 @ 0.00066211 = 0.578 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2707 @ 0.00066974 = 1.813 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P140T] 718 @ 0.03241474 = 23.2738 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2721 = 0.8163 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.2721 = 1.9047 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.79397 = 1.5879 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.79399 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.794 = 3.97 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.21000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9493 @ 0.00066974 = 6.3578 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.21 = 0.84 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 49 @ 0.00418 = 0.2048 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00276101 / 0.0029175 / 0.00301846 (7205 shares, 21.02 BTC), 7D: 0.00276101 / 0.00315343 / 0.00400173 (467223 shares, 1,473.36 BTC), 30D: 0.00276101 / 0.00364184 / 0.006 (1638027 shares, 5,965.44 BTC)
kakobrekla: "...
kakobrekla: Since October 2012, BTC market conditions changed, and our algorithm stop trading, pointing to hold BTCs as the most profit action to be taken. So we did this way,
kakobrekla: holding BTCs to avoid bad sell from our shareholders. This strategy now proved to be correct and to prize our algorithm. We proud of a very good work.
kakobrekla: ..."
kakobrekla: LMAO
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170003.msg1776817#msg1776817
bgupta: umm a bitcoin trading company that just holds bitcoins that you could just as easily hold yourself?
mircea_popescu: so wait...
mircea_popescu: for 6 months thios ?!
mircea_popescu: About you trollers , all I have to say is: "clap clap clap clap ! ". May you get it and may it be penicillin resistant.
bgupta: So checking my math sdice has market cap of ~$55,000,000 AM $56,240,000 and bbet about $1,850,000?
bgupta: al seem pretty high, but I think that reflects an expectation of growth in usd/btc ratio.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2721 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.1019 = 0.4076 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: hm
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00079521 / 0.00082831 / 0.00085021 (2492 shares, 2.06 BTC), 7D: 0.0007531 / 0.00083127 / 0.00195 (2520 shares, 2.09 BTC), 30D: 0.00050015 / 0.00189327 / 0.00201401 (79740 shares, 150.97 BTC)
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.00082831 * 10000000
gribble: 8283.1
mircea_popescu: yeh like 8k btc at current prices.
mircea_popescu: course i wouldn't sell it at that.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.2199999 = 0.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.22 = 0.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2721 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18030 @ 0.00070061 = 12.632 BTC [+]
MJR_: a penny
MJR_: there it is!!!
MJR_: woohoo everyone we just hit 200
deyyo__: yep :P
leotreasure: wooooooooo!
bgupta: just lost bet
MJR_: did you guys see ernie with his mind blown?
deyyo__: http://bitbet.us/bet/330/mtgox-bitcoin-usd-exchange-rate-200-before/
damientrog: just won the bet :D
mircea_popescu: woot
bitesak: 2K coins exchanged at 200
bitesak: and counting
pizzaman1337: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 200.48000, Best ask: 200.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 200.40000, 24 hour volume: 97559.81266110, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 197.48000, 24 hour vwap: 187.02354
rikur: http://bitbet.us/bet/330/mtgox-bitcoin-usd-exchange-rate-200-before/
rikur: me too
rikur: now someone resolve it
bitesak: ;;asks 202
mircea_popescu: heh what's the rush
gribble: There are currently 881.21269 bitcoins offered at or under 202.0 USD, worth 177205.166732 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
MJR_: the "bubble" is alive and well
ColdHardMetal: bitcoinity bringing the lulz again
MJR_: at what point do they cease seeing a bubble and start seeing a new price level?
MJR_: lolz
MJR_: bitcoinity is the best channel on tv lol
MJR_: geez, not even a little time to pause and reflect on how far we've come...nope, on to 300 NAO
rikur: hey does the betting time get re-adjusted for the actual length of the bet?
rikur: would be fair :)
rikur: I was Yes days ago
damientrog: yes the weight of your bet will be higher
jurov: uhh just missed it... anyone has bitcoinity screenshot?
rikur: I know, but since the weight was given against the Last of April, even last minute better get 50% weighted
rikur: It should be weighted: start -> end of bet
rikur: not start -> maximum lifetime of bet.
mircea_popescu: rikur weight's not readjusted, why;'d it be ?
jurov: also, then bettors betting just before lifetime would get almost 0 weight
rikur: mircea_popescu: for example this mtgox bet, you get more information as price goes higher and it's less risky to bet yes
rikur: but the weight is relatively still high
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: so ?
jurov: lol some bitch weight is too small, others that it is too big
rikur: jurov: they would get their own money back and a tiny profit on top of that
jurov: rikur nope
rikur: huh your algo is not that smart then
MJR_: not a lot holding back from 235 right now...this is getting crazy
jurov: they will get their money minus house edge
bgupta: the bet was more yes folks than no folks through most of it's life
rikur: favors last minute bettors who
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1565 @ 0.00069716 = 1.0911 BTC [-]
MJR_: ;;bids 0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00070096 = 13.7388 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 31615980 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12659267.2931 USD in total. | Data vintage: 75.7371 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00070757 = 12.1348 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1085 @ 0.00070898 = 0.7692 BTC [+]
MJR_: ;;asks 235
gribble: There are currently 7289.0965 bitcoins offered at or under 235.0 USD, worth 1564703.04003 USD in total. | Data vintage: 91.5550 seconds
mircea_popescu: it doesn't favour anybody.
mircea_popescu: who'd you figure "it favors".
rikur: jurov: when I bet Yes at around 160$, I was taking much higher risk than last minute 50 BTC bettor don't you agree?
jurov: not at all
jurov: it can fall as well as rise
bgupta: so we gonna get a rash of articles talking about 200 and 2 billion
rikur: lol, but the information the bets are placed has changed
ColdHardMetal: ;;bc,mktcap
gribble: 2224267339.89
bowjob: price has gone insane
mircea_popescu: rikur the fact that the information has changed may make the system inconvenient for oyu
bgupta: btw - kinda glad I lost that bet
mircea_popescu: but it does not make the system unfair in itself.
bowjob: also, i won my fist bitbet
mircea_popescu: in order for it to be unfair it'd have to be unfair in general, not inconvenient to some case.
bgupta: the 140 bettors who bet yes can scrap over my 20 btc..
rikur: mircea_popescu: it is unfair in general whenever the bet can end before the max life time
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=171057.0 apparently unfunded orders is going away
rikur: late bettors gain leverage on more information
bowjob: there should be a rule on bitbet if people try to game the system by putting btc after the event stops
mircea_popescu: rikur they also incur the list on losing their capital
rikur: it is totally different to bet Yes with 10 BTC early on than 50 BTC on the last minute
mircea_popescu: if the bet closes before theior bet makes it in.
bowjob: you should keep the btc
mircea_popescu: no, it
mircea_popescu: s not just totally different. its very risky to bet 10 at the last minute.
rikur: far less risky, you gotta admit that
jurov: rikur if you want the bet weight to reflect tmkt information, you're plainly using wrong instrument
jurov: trade options instad.
mircea_popescu: it's not far less risky. it's VERY risky.
mircea_popescu: have you read bitbet last month reports ?
rikur: no
mircea_popescu: half the dividends came from people trying to leech the betpools by betting late.
joeykrim: can you link to last month's report? sounds like a good read
deadweasel: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 203.50001, Best ask: 203.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24999, Last trade: 203.99000, 24 hour volume: 103340.65692708, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 205.00000, 24 hour vwap: 188.16600
rikur: so that's why you don't fix it
deadweasel: 203!
mircea_popescu: joeykrim http://trilema.com/2013/bitbet-march-2013-statement/
joeykrim: mircea_popescu, thx
mircea_popescu: irt's not that "i don;'t fix it". it's that what you're proposing is not a fix, and what i have is.
jurov: so about 30btc was sent to expired addies???
mircea_popescu: 23 if memory serves
mircea_popescu: it wasn't expired addies, it was more specifically : guy sees bet about to close, sends btc, doesn't make in before close.
rikur: so what happens if they don't make it
mircea_popescu: btc goes to shareholders.
rikur: what?
rikur: lol
mircea_popescu: yep.
rikur: what a fag site
mircea_popescu: maybe bitcoin is a little new to you.
punkman: lol
rikur: the rules are not based on any sane math
mircea_popescu: "Looking for someone to create/modify software for this forum [5500+ BTC] " << bitcointalk now has > 1mn dollars in software devbiounty
rikur: but it's cool
mircea_popescu: largest in history of internet ?
jurov: we just happen to have this "sinkhole in foyer, whatever falls in is kept" capitalism here
mircea_popescu: jurov it's incredibly efficient in encouraging people not to litter.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7749 BTC [+]
jurov: lol hehe... i'm considering to enact something like
jurov: oh i already am.. there's a guy who forgot both his coinbr username, password and email
mircea_popescu: ...
jurov: and wasn't able to produce a btc addy even with hint
mircea_popescu: how do you know you're not being social engineered in a case like that ?
jurov: i don't know. hence, it will be kept by coinbr
rikur: mircea_popescu: I can't see this risky last minute bet mentioned on the site
mircea_popescu: read the faq.
rikur: and still, the weight should be re-calibrated in bets that end earlier
bitesak: to suit you
rikur: just my feed back as a paying customer :)
bgupta: new bet: will btc trade below 200.. ;)
mircea_popescu: lol
jurov: or just for fun "bitcoin will fall below $2 in 2013"
jurov: although, even 1000% profit from such bet would be moot
mircea_popescu: indeed.
taub: there's a ton of buying pressure
taub: ratio: 362.74 USD/BTC
taub: up from 290 during the breakout runup
unbalanced_: ...and gox api down again?
taub: still working for me, the data stream at least
taub: lax is next to zero too
jurov: ;;ticker
taub: lag*
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 199.96722, Best ask: 200.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03278, Last trade: 200.00000, 24 hour volume: 104305.48741673, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 205.00000, 24 hour vwap: 188.36658
taub: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 3.389127 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00679177256144 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).
unbalanced_: I'm looking at bitcoincharts and at mpex.co: no bot quotes?
bowjob: oh no crash
jurov: ic, bowjob is on it again :)
mircea_popescu: unbalanced_ prolly bitcoincharts crapped out
bowjob: shush. old habits die hard
unbalanced_: Yeah they're boned now
bowjob: im trying to figure out this mining game
bowjob: "valueerror: need more than 1 value to unpack
bowjob: I registered on slush's pool. i inputted my worker bowjob.worker1 and put whatever password they supplied me
bowjob: then i click mine, and it doesnt seems to work
rikur: but yeah, not going to bit again on bets like this. unfair rules still, can't understand why you don't agree.
unbalanced_: How often do the bots sample the bitcoincharts 24hr vwap?
bgupta: bowjob, best to hit the slush irc channel…
unbalanced_: And how often does bitcoincharts update it? every 15min? hourly?
bowjob: aye.
bowjob: im prepping for my avalon. didnt have too much time to think.
bowjob: just buyyyyy
bgupta: heh
bowjob: i guess ill be spoiled with 4 btc a day
bgupta: mining is hot work...
jurov: just my observation - bot refreshes somewhere between 5-20 minutes
unbalanced_: thx
bgupta: bitcoincharts is a bit flaky atm
jurov: and btcharts vwap seems to be updated continuously
bgupta: or was
jurov: if it's there, ofc.
bgupta: taub: what's that ratio?
jurov: but they warn that it shouldn't be fetched more often than every 15min.
unbalanced_: And when the bots have been blind for X minutes because of a b...charts api crapout, they go to n/a
jurov: instead of looking around for some cloud/cdn solution to distribute their api
unbalanced_: Do the the bots wait X minutes on an outage or do they go straight to n/a
unbalanced_: I remember reading something about stale info a week or two ago and am just trying to grok it now
jurov: why would they wait? it's risky
bgupta: well.. vwap moves kinda slowly...
jurov: iirc mp said they place orders with expiration date, they don't actively cancel them
taub: bgupta: all usd from the bid vs the coins on the ask
bowjob: http://bitbet.us/bet/307/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-july-1st/
bgupta: ah..
bowjob: lol. reall,y 57 BTC on NO
MJR_: i think it would be funny if one day all the sellers decided to list all their coins at $1010101...for 10 minutes, just to show people that they have to choose to sell
mircea_popescu: <jurov> iirc mp said they place orders with expiration date, they don't actively cancel them << this is correct.
MJR_: i am more worried about everyone choosing to just say, why bother selling at all...
mircea_popescu: if bot can't find pricing feed / is not sane it just doesn't quote, tries again.
jurov: can't you ask bitcoinity to provide alternative feed?
mircea_popescu: i'm not using mtgox only feed.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.26 = 2.6 BTC [-]
bgupta: mircea_popescu: Am I observing incorrectly that min/max and volume numbers go away if bots aren't playing?
bgupta: nvm
mircea_popescu: i think you are, yes
jurov: i know but bitcoinity can make average vwap from these 4 biggest exchanges they have there
jurov: should be accurate enough for pricing at least, if not for exercises
mircea_popescu: meh.
mircea_popescu: maybe.
bgupta: might be worth running ones own private vwap pricing service..
bgupta: I'd look at the uptime/downtime numbers of the public one that's used, and see how often it's offline
bowjob: http://imageshack.us/f/571/mtgoxiseebatman.jpg/
mircea_popescu: bgupta the entire idea is to separate data feeds and market
bgupta: so new seller wall at 205
mircea_popescu: i'm never running a private one.
mircea_popescu: the community has to get ity's collective useless ass in a bunch and make a working service.
mircea_popescu: absent that, it doesn
mircea_popescu: 't actually need options.
bgupta: what's the revenue in running a pricing service?
bgupta: IE: seems a small amount of ad revenue at best.
mircea_popescu: im not sure what you mean by pricing service.
jurov: while i'm at it, what price is used for exercises when btccharts isn't there?
bgupta: like bitcoincharts, which you use for vwap quotes..
mircea_popescu: jurov last available.
MJR_: i was wondering about bitcoinity's business model...
mircea_popescu: bgupta irl bloomberg seems to do okay.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, as far as websites go, thuis would be the highest traffic website in btc.
mircea_popescu: granted, a geek might not be mentally capable to turn something useful into something productive.
mircea_popescu: but let him find a boss.
mircea_popescu: and let that boss not be me.
MJR_: i think that if you want to talk about eyeballs on a screen, bitcoinity has that...someone should create the CNBC of bitcoin, and basically just do a youtube channel talking about bitcoin related affairs with great market data in the ticker and sidebar.
jurov: MJR_ ur doing something too, no?
jurov: or just another exchange?
MJR_: I appreciate the little easter eggs, and i think people watch bitcoinity pretty religiously
MJR_: hopefully aggregation of data
MJR_: but bootstrapping process
mircea_popescu: tbh i think the model is very good as it is : bitcoinity for the crazed f5 mashing crowd, bitcoincharts for the more in depth universal minded minds.
bgupta: right my point is in this case, I sense that that a solid site could be built, and it would be useful, and get a lot of traffic, but there doesn't seem to be a market yet of folks iwlling to pay for a paywall service.. and ads can only bring in so much.
mircea_popescu: this should work on the long term, stratefgically speaking
MJR_: my plan is not to try and woo current customers but rather find a large pool of new customers, expanding the pie rather than redistributing it
mircea_popescu: sounds like a good plan.
MJR_: (you will redistribute it once you have a certain critical mass anyway)
MJR_: so eventually data services will be a part of that, but for now its trying to get the most bang for the buck
MJR_: I think if someone just read the top stories from reddit, and had a simple feed from this channel on a youtube program, while showing bitcoinity, bitcoincharts, clarkmoody, they could get ad revenue
MJR_: 1700 people on the subreddit now...
MJR_: 7162 on bitcoinity
mircea_popescu: prhaps.
MJR_: bloomberg started small (i know most people can't believe that these monolithic huge corps were startups at one point)
mircea_popescu: heh. yea.
bowjob: hey mp
mircea_popescu: MJR_ i kept trying to push people towards dfoing a blog, which is a subset of what you say but easier to do (for a geek)
bowjob: http://bitbet.us/bet/392/mtgox-bitcoin-usd-exchange-rate-250-before/
mircea_popescu: nobody wants to sink the work into anything.
bowjob: For this bet, I posted the exact same bet, i dont see my addy
MJR_: yes
bowjob: ... were there 2 bets?
MJR_: and it does take work and capital
mircea_popescu: people just want to dick around pressing f5 on some imaginary "getting rich" thing
mircea_popescu: bowjob tis possible.
MJR_: and right now everyone is waiting for everyone else to start the business that they can have as a customer, but they won't start it till they have the services they need
bowjob: mhm
bowjob: aye, same exact lazy copypasta as mine
bowjob: lol
MJR_: bloomberg started with 10 mil and 22 terminals
mircea_popescu: MJR_ where "the services they need" = other people doing all the work so they can just repackage it and pretend to be apple./
mircea_popescu: tyvm but that is not useful.
MJR_: which may seem like a lot of cash, but it isn't really in the grand scheme of where they are now
MJR_: ^^^which?
MJR_: mircea_popescu: I agree, don't need repackagers, need people willing to work
mircea_popescu: other than people who code there doesn't really seem to be any group in the us with any sort of work ethic.
mircea_popescu: and the people who code have monstrous ego issues.
mircea_popescu: it's a conundrum i tell ye.
MJR_: it really is
MJR_: only way is for someone to do what you did in other spaces
MJR_: become the foundation
MJR_: ugh, i don't mean like the bitcoin foundation
mircea_popescu: bowjob there were two bets, one had a zeroconf in it and was picked.
bowjob: zeroconf?
MJR_: i mean like a solid base for other people to build an economy around
bowjob: i assume the other guy put some btc in, thats why his got accepted
Olive6767: is this me or btc-e trades are not working currently?
bowjob: aye, thats fine.. kk
mircea_popescu: bowjob yea, you may send btc along with your bet
mircea_popescu: which for whatever reasons is called zeroconf in bitbet internals
MJR_: we need job creators lol, 10 million --> 22.5 billion
bowjob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142318.0
bowjob: I love this thread
bowjob: "Topic: I'm calling the top here @ $23.98961"
mircea_popescu: lol
punkman: *respect*
bowjob: john banned him, aw sucks
MJR_: that was a hilarious thread
MJR_: each new round number in big funny fonts
bowjob: it used to be him trolling, then I turned the thread about cats... then somehow it tured out to be an ATH thread
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: do you still believe BTC is not worth 130+?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C185T] 10 @ 0.21192633 = 2.1193 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: $avg
mpexbot: thestringpuller: 188.04
mircea_popescu: the text said "yet".
bgupta: taub: wondering if that ratio thing is a red herring.. and just a natural result of what happens when price goes up.. IE: people don't set out to sell a fixed number of coins, but rather they are selling to raise a certain amount of fiat to pay for bills/toys.. and in btc terms those keep getting cheaper as btc rallies.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: so time in bitcoin is accelerated 1000x to real life?
thestringpuller: :D
thestringpuller: jkjk
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu, mah nigga
mircea_popescu: bgupta may be a good point yes
bgupta: so press has noticed 200, haven't seen much talk of $2billion http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller http://trilema.com/2013/let-me-show-you-how-right-i-am/
mircea_popescu: rthere, just for you.
mircea_popescu: bgupta technically it's 2.22 bn
bgupta: yeah.. but the crossing of the threshold.. over 2 billion.. blah
unbalanced_: MJR_ is your site in private testing yet?
unbalanced_: What do you code in?
taub: bgupta: i haven't found out any correlation yet, but it's cute to look at
unbalanced_: I completely agree about finding people willing to Do The Work.
unbalanced_: Not easy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00070898 = 9.5712 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 204.50000, Best ask: 204.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 204.60000, 24 hour volume: 106092.82752189, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 207.00000, 24 hour vwap: 188.99308
ThickAsThieves: nice price
thestringpuller: too bad I'm still behind the paywall :D
unbalanced_: So we just have to do it ourselves.
mircea_popescu: aww
bowjob: woo. almost my cakeday
bowjob: 21 years of doing absolutely jack shit.
mircea_popescu: you never got any chick pregnant ?
bowjob: nah. i had this classmate knock a girl up when he was in hs. he's not so free these days
bowjob: and i hate babies. all they do is shit around
bowjob: cavirtex is at 219
bowjob: mhm
mircea_popescu: well i didn't mean she'd keep it necessarily.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.266 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.265 = 0.53 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.261 = 1.566 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.26000011 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2600001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.26 = 1.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.25982367 = 0.5196 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.245 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.24 = 0.72 BTC [-]
bowjob: VTX.. what are you doing
bowjob: stahp
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.261 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.26 = 1.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.258101 = 0.5162 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.25810002 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.258 = 2.322 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.258 = 0.774 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2566 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 35 @ 0.251 = 8.785 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.25 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.25 = 2.5 BTC [-]
Insaneatyou: asciilifeform hey, I would love to work with BTC but I am poor. MP said I should talk to you
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00302126 = 1.5106 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: Insaneatyou: work on evil things. Trojans that steal BTC/LTC or mine; more efficient ways to brute-force SHA256; attacks on the network; and the like.
asciilifeform: Insaneatyou: one example: http://jheusser.github.com/2013/02/03/satcoin.html
Insaneatyou: asciilifeform: My skills are not in programming
Insaneatyou: but I'd like to pointout, i already mentioned this to MP
asciilifeform: Insaneatyou: the common pattern here is that "money makes money" doesn't apply here; having more BTC (or USD) does not give you an advantage in purely intellectual battles
asciilifeform: Insaneatyou: what *can* you do?
asciilifeform: Insaneatyou: are you skilled in mathematics?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.25 = 1.75 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: Insaneatyou: how about stage magic? cold reading? can you fool people convincingly?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00302126 = 2.1149 BTC [-]
Insaneatyou: I hate people but make a fair to middling salesman
Insaneatyou: I'm best at solving complex problems
Insaneatyou: but sadly I have no specific math skills
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00068902 = 1.1713 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00068626 = 4.1862 BTC [-]
Insaneatyou: I'm apparently the worst at selling myself
asciilifeform: Insaneatyou: drum up an exit stampede from BTC, then. so that you (and the rest of us) can load up a bit.
Insaneatyou: but to be honest, I'm looking to study Economics, that's my area of interest
Insaneatyou: lol
mircea_popescu: best at solving complex problems but no math skills !? how exactly does this work ?
Insaneatyou: My plan was to load up after the price drops from it's highs
Insaneatyou: I did much math before, but haven't used it in a while, i also used to code some
mircea_popescu: but can you give an example of such a problem ?
bgupta: I hate headlines like this that don't have a matching story http://www.nysun.com/national/boom-in-bitcoins-challenges-bernanke-amid-sagging/88262/
Bugpowder: ask for advice here. http://www.reddit.com/r/depression/
mircea_popescu: i didn't even know there was a ny sun
mircea_popescu: "Finding a date and/or a job while completely convinced you are a worthless piece of garbage... how do you do it?"
mircea_popescu: dude i should hang out there more.
mircea_popescu: i like people who know they're worthless pieces of garage.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perhaps drugs are the answer.
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 206.01001, Best ask: 206.29959, Bid-ask spread: 0.28958, Last trade: 206.29959, 24 hour volume: 103646.77817016, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 207.00000, 24 hour vwap: 189.53950
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what happened to love you dark van gogh spirit you
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: of the 'performance enhancing' kind
mircea_popescu: oic
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.22 BTC [-]
Insaneatyou: To be honest, i dont have any examples. If you have a problem, hit me with it. I'll give it a shot
Bugpowder: remove the "looking to" from this sentence. "but to be honest, I'm looking to study Economics, that's my area of interest"
mircea_popescu: "I feel like I can't talk to anyone, because my own problems are stupid and insignificant, because I am stupid and insignificant."
mircea_popescu: dude totally.
asciilifeform: Insaneatyou: empty your penny jar, and buy one bitcoin. write a trading bot and see if you can turn it into two.
mircea_popescu: how have i not seen this before.
Bugpowder: I recommend watching clark moody with the sound up loud
Insaneatyou: Bugpowder - yes
Bugpowder: and cursing yourself for not having enough coins
Bugpowder: FUCKKKKK
mircea_popescu: "i feel like im dying, or maybe dead. in incredible agony now."
Bugpowder: 210
mircea_popescu: "Do I have depression, or is this all just hormones?"
mircea_popescu: lmao
Bugpowder: is there a difference?
Insaneatyou: asciilifeform - ah, yes, i hadn't quite realized that you could do that. It's an unregulated marekt
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder ikr
Insaneatyou: Bugpowder - point.
unbalanced_: http://chatt.hdsb.ca/~kozborj/images/whatisntchemistry.gif
mircea_popescu: Insaneatyou you can do that in the regulated market too.
Bugpowder: lol
Bugpowder: physicds
Insaneatyou: Thought bots were illegal?
Bugpowder: wat?
Bugpowder: question : how old are you?
bowjob: someone posted a topic that they;ll invest 100k in btc
bowjob: this is from a gaming forum
bowjob: wow
saulimus: great, thanks to him the price rises
Insaneatyou: huh
Bugpowder: Sad that they will have less than 500 BTC
asciilifeform: Insaneatyou: you can do pretty much what you want with BTC without being made to answer for it, if you have half a brain. plenty of people are.
Bugpowder: Insaneatyou: how old are you? seriously.
Insaneatyou: bugpowder 24
Bugpowder: ok, well you have got a shitload of reading to do about economics and markets
Insaneatyou: asciilifeform yeah, i get that now
Bugpowder: although bitcoin is a great place to lear
Insaneatyou: bugpowder yah, no joke
MJR_: who would make anything illegal?
MJR_: also, bots are legal in every financial market as of right now
Bugpowder: but the best lessons occur when you lose all your money
Bugpowder: at least at the beginning.
Insaneatyou: MJR_ in a regulated market in fiat I thought writing bots to trade for you was illegal
asciilifeform: Insaneatyou: stop talking to us and go read. Start with Satoshi's paper and go on to the discussions of great scams in the fora, and the various practical details of BTC dealings
Bugpowder: Insaneatyou: 90% of the trades on exchanges are bots trading with each other.
Insaneatyou: asciilifeform i've read Satoshi's paper, but i see the point.
MJR_: ;;bc,24hprc
Insaneatyou: Bugpowder yah, now i realise it's just expensive
gribble: 188.56
Bugpowder: your best chance of getting coins is to buy a put, and pray bitcoins crash to $5.
Bugpowder: within the next 2 weeks.
bowjob: the 200 BTC bet isnt paid out yet eh?
Insaneatyou: asciilifeform one quick question - "great scams in the fora"?
unbalanced_: I read forums for 2 years before piping up here and (as people here can verify) I'm still pretty much a bitcoin idiot.
Bugpowder: read MPs blog
unbalanced_: fora = the forums
Insaneatyou: Bugpowder sounds like a quick way to lose my ass
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/
Bugpowder: Insaneatyou: exactly
asciilifeform: Insaneatyou: read about Pirate, GLBSE, etc.
Insaneatyou: asciilifeform for what purpose?
Insaneatyou: stupid question that
unbalanced_: To understand the many ways you can lose money with Bitcoin... I could write a book
bowjob: so mp, any reason why bitbet hasnt paid out yet
Insaneatyou: unbalanced_ then i intend to not be you
bowjob: for the 200 BTC bet
unbalanced_: Learn from other's mistakes
Bugpowder: Why try to learn when you already know how to solve complex problems?
bowjob: or kako/satoshi/god ect does that
Bugpowder: buy some puts, and learn.
unbalanced_: Insaneatyou: that's a good start :)
unbalanced_: I should try that, not be me... it worked for George Costanza.
Insaneatyou: unbalanced_ sounds like you need this link too: http://www.reddit.com/r/depression/
Insaneatyou: one final thing boys, where's the forums?
pigeons: this is the internet, no males here
mircea_popescu: bowjob probably there were some fags or communists among the beneficiaries and we have to scrub the lists
unbalanced_: Self deprecation <> depression. I'm just trying to be polite.
kakobrekla: mornin
bowjob: ah i see isee. take your time
bgupta: http://mobile.blogs.wsj.com/cio/2013/04/08/cios-watching-bitcoin-evolution/
Insaneatyou: unbalanced_ apologies then
bowjob: maybe add a rule that if they try to game the system after an event occurs, the btc shall be kept and distributed to shareholders
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.25 = 2 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: who the fuck asked "cios"
mircea_popescu: bowjob rule 18 or w/e that was.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00302126 = 2.7191 BTC [-]
unbalanced_: Insaneatyou: Google is your friend... try typing "bitcoin forum" over there.
bgupta: (SOrry took a while to find a non paywall version of article)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.202 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.2012 = 0.4024 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.20100001 = 4.02 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.201 = 0.804 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: poor poor VTX
mircea_popescu: ya srsly, we know what happened there ?
ThickAsThieves: fallen from such great heights
ThickAsThieves: my working theory,
ThickAsThieves: is that many shareholders that bought over IPO price,
ThickAsThieves: were flippers
Insaneatyou: unbalanced_ thanks
ThickAsThieves: many whom held out too long
ThickAsThieves: and then
mircea_popescu: now that's a distinct possibility.
ThickAsThieves: i suspect that people just realized there are no divs
bowjob: "Do not send BTC after betting has closed. Any BTC sent to addresses allocated to a bet after betting has closed will be kept by BitBet and distributed to shareholders as dividends. "
mircea_popescu: many more "daytraders" than investors in btc yet.
bowjob: Golden
bowjob: you think they;d realize that there'd be no divs before pouring BTC in
ThickAsThieves: you'd think
bowjob: or maybe they realized, just hoping others would buy it via greater fool theory
ThickAsThieves: greater greater fools eh
bowjob: it doesnt relaly hurt virtex
bowjob: *really
bowjob: since they got th emoney already, their 300k
ThickAsThieves: also arent the coins way overpriced there?
bowjob: well, the market decides
bowjob: its 219 per coin last time i checked
bowjob: and 3% fee, going down if you trade more
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77489 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7749 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5103 @ 0.00302126 = 15.4175 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 51 @ 0.25 = 12.75 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: some nice arb there
ThickAsThieves: :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 17 @ 0.003 = 0.051 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 17 @ 0.003 = 0.051 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 400 @ 0.00286 = 1.144 BTC [-]
bowjob: aight. who got squeezed by virtex here
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 59 @ 0.002856 = 0.1685 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 71 @ 0.002855 = 0.2027 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00285 = 0.0855 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.00284 = 0.0114 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: us mint rationing sales nao.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1500 @ 0.002801 = 4.2015 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: la la la
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 18 @ 0.0028 = 0.0504 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0028 = 2.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 28 @ 0.25 = 7 BTC [-]
bowjob: the fiat value of vtx shares is $44.. still good
bowjob: from its 30 dollar ipo value
ThickAsThieves: Signs that you know you made a bad btc deal,1. You start rationalizing in fiat
bowjob: I did not touch VTX lol, im not crying.
mircea_popescu: true tho, who cares about fiat.
bowjob: they will start issuing dividends q3
bowjob: i didnt see that in the prospectus
ThickAsThieves: the prosp merely says, IF we start issuing divs, we'll give you some
ThickAsThieves: no real commitment
ThickAsThieves: blockchain.info down
ThickAsThieves: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.573548 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00114938377024 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 206.62620, Best ask: 206.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.17380, Last trade: 206.80000, 24 hour volume: 105756.02146466, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 210.00000, 24 hour vwap: 190.26993
bowjob: I wonder how many people sent BTC in after the bet closed
bowjob: on the 200 BTC in april bet
ThickAsThieves: many i hope
bowjob: ive seen a few, not sure how much in btc
bowjob: its gonna be juicy divs
ThickAsThieves: well i dont really wish ill will
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.25 = 1 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: but cmon
bowjob: it used to be refunded so that rule must be there
bowjob: recently
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.25 = 4.5 BTC [-]
bowjob: aye, i see the btc from bitbet. thx a bunch
Scrat: ThickAsThieves: it's up
Scrat: Free. Open Source. $ 6,485,491,563.34 Successfully Transacted.
Scrat: inb4 government takedown
ThickAsThieves: thx
mircea_popescu: Scrat whassat ?
Scrat: "nevermind me, im just a 1man operation that has moved $6 billion"
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136551374562.jpg the new bitcoin police cruiser.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000648 BTC [-]
Scrat: mircea_popescu: scroll down https://blockchain.info/wallet/
mircea_popescu: oh. yeah.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000607 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: everybody is all excited about tghe 100/200/whatever.
ThickAsThieves: so 300 next week?
mircea_popescu: what they seem to not think too much about is that the more oil you find, the larger an army you need.
mircea_popescu: sorta like the people who just build settlers in civ
mircea_popescu: then get owned by gingis khan
bowjob: thick, why so bearish
bowjob: 500
bowjob: brah
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 206.40000, Best ask: 207.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.60000, Last trade: 207.00000, 24 hour volume: 105765.49944185, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 210.00000, 24 hour vwap: 190.28382
pigeons: gingis khan, the red-headed, gum-diseased conqueror
deadweasel: lol mircea_popescu ... you tried the ipad version? civ revolution. only game i can play.
deadweasel: best for travelling 3-5 hours to win.
mircea_popescu: im playing poe atm
deadweasel: poe?
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/path-of-exile-story-continued/
ThickAsThieves: ;;nethash
gribble: 63617.6030711
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 8989778.42737 based on data since last change | 8887140.87338 based on data for last three days
kakobrekla: hm
ThickAsThieves: need more hashes!
kakobrekla: first screenshot reminds of diable
kakobrekla: diablo
kakobrekla: thats as far as my knowledge goes
mircea_popescu: it is kinda made by stealing everything that works
mircea_popescu: so a lot of diablo in there
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00068531 = 10.1426 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00068516 = 0.6166 BTC [-]
deyyo: diablo 3 was a fail game of the year
deyyo: waste of money
imsaguy: <mircea_popescu> then get owned by gingis khan << that's why you play as Victoria and build a bunch of archers
mircea_popescu: imsaguy i don't see anyone building archers.
imsaguy: shoot the bastages in the eye!
ThickAsThieves: D3 did suck
mircea_popescu: i see piuk going "heyyo i sent 7\bn wiorth of monyz"
imsaguy: mircea_popescu, because everyone knows you don't expose your archers
mircea_popescu: yeah, d3 was a faiul.
mircea_popescu: imsaguy a ok than. my bad.
imsaguy: what good is a defender that can get knocked down with a rock if fully exposed?
imsaguy: meanwhile, I wait for the bubble to pop and nobody stickign around to try to catch the bathwater
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.20001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.24001 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.24 = 0.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.00651 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 9999999999
gribble: There are currently 35778.387 bitcoins offered at or under 9999999999.0 USD, worth 14046355227.6 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 32306655 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13562707.0394 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.2427 seconds
ThickAsThieves: yikes
ThickAsThieves: we're in for some serious movement up still
ThickAsThieves: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 60.400741 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.121042408684 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
ThickAsThieves: 210 will go down today
ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 210
gribble: There are currently 1210.0012 bitcoins offered at or under 210.0 USD, worth 254025.162912 USD in total. | Data vintage: 104.2441 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 215
gribble: There are currently 2304.5749 bitcoins offered at or under 215.0 USD, worth 487074.216038 USD in total. | Data vintage: 119.9149 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 220
gribble: There are currently 3598.1747 bitcoins offered at or under 220.0 USD, worth 768176.646754 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
ThickAsThieves: !
ThickAsThieves: $avg
mpexbot: ThickAsThieves: 189.42
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.12 = 0.72 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1195 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.1192 = 0.596 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.1191 = 0.5955 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.119 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 70 @ 0.118 = 8.26 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 13 @ 0.11712 = 1.5226 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 20 @ 0.11711 = 2.3422 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 360 @ 0.001033 = 0.3719 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C158T] 10 @ 0.30600383 = 3.06 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C161T] 5 @ 0.2946322 = 1.4732 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C170T] 5 @ 0.26251706 = 1.3126 BTC
kakobrekla: ;;rate bitstamp -1 tards
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C164T] 5 @ 0.28359474 = 1.418 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.24 = 0.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C167T] 5 @ 0.27289023 = 1.3645 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C173T] 10 @ 0.25247337 = 2.5247 BTC
ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 231.39
gribble: There are currently 4830.2361 bitcoins offered at or under 231.39 USD, worth 1057565.65945 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 250
gribble: There are currently 8423.8545 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 1934423.80375 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.8790 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 32316727 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13548257.8426 USD in total. | Data vintage: 25.9812 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00103 = 0.0021 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 13 @ 0.00102 = 0.0133 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.001 = 0.01 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5240 @ 0.00068516 = 3.5902 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 210.00000, Best ask: 210.44622, Bid-ask spread: 0.44622, Last trade: 210.44622, 24 hour volume: 106279.45771713, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 210.00000, 24 hour vwap: 190.68842
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 400 @ 0.17758558 = 71.0342 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.201 = 1.206 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.000648 = 0.0032 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 50 @ 0.17758558 = 8.8793 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 57 @ 0.000649 = 0.037 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 28 @ 0.000655 = 0.0183 BTC [+]
taub: bitbet betters are pretty small-time huh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.20061111 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.20061111 = 1.6049 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: taub i seem to recall a 90 btc bet yest
mircea_popescu: afaik plenty of places even in vegas will turn down a 15k bet.
taub: well they arent p2p
taub: they offer fixed odds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.20061111 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.21 = 3.78 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: no i mean on betting
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 50 @ 0.17758558 = 8.8793 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.20011 = 0.8004 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.2 = 1.4 BTC [-]
taub: yea me too, i mean unless it's a betting exchange, the cointerparty is the house
taub: so of course they limit their size
mircea_popescu: this is a spurious argument.
mircea_popescu: fact is, ion bitbet people in fact bet 15k in one go
mircea_popescu: on other places, such as vegas joints, they can not.
mircea_popescu: thus, vegas is indeed smalltime.
taub: well
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 34 @ 0.17758558 = 6.0379 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: 211
mircea_popescu: $vwap ^oix
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 147.08078325 high: 181.60130255 low: 110.64241833 volume: 19536 btc: 4621.81435971 30 day: no data
taub: $avg
mpexbot: taub: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 35 @ 0.00361 = 0.1264 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.0036 = 0.0072 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 12 @ 0.003301 = 0.0396 BTC [-]
taub: $vwap
mpexbot: taub: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=LUS8vrji
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1000 @ 0.0033 = 3.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 90 @ 0.00321 = 0.2889 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 760 @ 0.0032 = 2.432 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: hey i see options that dont exist yet!
ThickAsThieves: in that pastebin
ThickAsThieves: hurry up Bug, before all the options are gone! ;)
mircea_popescu: it shows both the expired style and the current style
ThickAsThieves: ah
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.004 = 0.4 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: because it still has data on the old ones
ThickAsThieves: got it
ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 99999999
gribble: There are currently 33781.073 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 432570432.615 USD in total. | Data vintage: 84.5329 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 32087038 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13163031.4903 USD in total. | Data vintage: 87.4622 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 240
gribble: There are currently 4794.2223 bitcoins offered at or under 240.0 USD, worth 1076900.03865 USD in total. | Data vintage: 107.5441 seconds
Bugpowder: I don't have any more capital out of deep storage
Bugpowder: I shot my wad at the beginning of the month
ThickAsThieves: looks like we're poised to skyrocket
Bugpowder: and am holding till the end
Bugpowder: 15% of net in calls.
Bugpowder: not going over.
ThickAsThieves: i've been buying daily pretty much
Bugpowder: except the calls are appreciating
Bugpowder: so now I'm way over
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00280001 = 1.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.0028 = 4.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00270004 = 1.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00270003 = 2.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.00270002 = 0.0081 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00270001 = 0.27 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 39397 @ 0.0027 = 106.3719 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: tahts a lotta sdice
Namworld: Well not that much...
Bugpowder: oh man I lost so much money on seals
Bugpowder: last year
Namworld: yeah... I lost over 10 grand apparently
Bugpowder: >30k.
Bugpowder: oops
Namworld: eheh
Bugpowder: stupid veganhippie
Bugpowder: I think I must have lost $10,000 in one hand against him
Namworld: next year it's gonna be >30 million for you
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0028 = 0.28 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: I can only hope so
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00279 = 0.0279 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 34 @ 0.002781 = 0.0946 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: Where are the big time holders of coins
Bugpowder: why are they not selling?
Bugpowder: or ARE they selling?
Bugpowder: and it doesn't matter
Namworld: I guess the occasional dip is it...
KRS-1: every day i look at the market figures i have to rub my eyes..doesnt make sense, thought it would have leveled out or dropped to an equilibrium
Namworld: Maybe there's just a lot more BTC lost forever than we thought...
ThickAsThieves: selling power has decreased a lot since 100
Bugpowder: we really need to revisit that blockchain analysis of dormant coin.
ThickAsThieves: remember how we had those big walls before 50, 80, 100
Bugpowder: pretty big wall at 200 too
ThickAsThieves: no longer
ezdiy: Bugpowder: only miners are selling imo :)
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 214.08541, Best ask: 214.38000, Bid-ask spread: 0.29459, Last trade: 214.38000, 24 hour volume: 107810.14057364, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 214.00000, 24 hour vwap: 191.10771
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 43 @ 0.2 = 8.6 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 240
gribble: There are currently 6178.7618 bitcoins offered at or under 240.0 USD, worth 1383401.83525 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0010 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 32307537 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13144217.9744 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.3656 seconds
Bugpowder: all this buying, and yet the bids continue to increase in values
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 103 @ 0.2 = 20.6 BTC [-]
ezdiy: well, in theory
ezdiy: that'd put bitcoin at $3 :)
ThickAsThieves: ;;market --sell 100000
gribble: A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 11219765.0124 USD and would take the last price down to 36.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 112.1977 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 92.7004 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.21 = 1.26 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: http://blockchain.info/charts/bitcoin-days-destroyed?showDataPoints=false&timespan=&show_header=true&daysAverageString=7&scale=0&address=
ThickAsThieves: the thing is, if you are a big holder, youre better off selling in chunks
Bugpowder: looks like old coins are moving now..
KRS-1: ezdiy: thats lower than litecoin at the moment
ThickAsThieves: Bug, what is that chart?
ezdiy: ThickAsThieves: just following the logic there are X billion of people on earth, so bitcoin must be sure worth Y
ThickAsThieves: "days destroyed"?
ezdiy: ThickAsThieves: by that logic, each coin would be worth $3 now :)
ThickAsThieves: ezdiy i dont know what you are referring to
Bugpowder: Bitcoin days destroyed for any given transaction is calculated by taking the number of Bitcoins in a transaction and multiplying it by the number of days it has been since those coins were last spent.
ThickAsThieves: weird
ThickAsThieves: lotsa days destroyed
kakobrekla: the problem is its not volume weighted
kakobrekla: i mean tx volume
KRS-1: $3 is lower than litcoin-> sell and buy ltc now
kakobrekla: not coin volume
taub: time to dump yo stash Bugpowder
taub: let me front run
ezdiy: KRS-1: i think there are 11m litecoins too or something like that
KRS-1: tollla lola lol
Bugpowder: I am a minnow
ezdiy: given that those are generated 4 times faster
taub: ah what
ThickAsThieves: litecoin is just a tool for bitcoin utility
ThickAsThieves: mine litecoin, sell for bitcoin
ezdiy: yup :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6025 @ 0.00068861 = 4.1489 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: 216
MJR_: has anyone looked at herbalife?
ThickAsThieves: lol
MJR_: that is the point of torbroker
MJR_: anonymity
ThickAsThieves: wtb snake oil
MJR_: oh i think they are a huge scam
MJR_: but inside info is inside info
taub: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 156.627681 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.313880119033 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one month (0.2988 AU).
mircea_popescu: i looked at herbalife once when this stunning but obviously famished chick was trying to serll it door to door
taub: hold on to your hats
Bugpowder: lol
MJR_: mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: fed the girl, discarded the crap, everyone happy ever after.
MJR_: hehehe, that is the right approach
ThickAsThieves: this lag is taking us upward methinks, rather than the usuall downward
jcpham: there's no where to go but up
jcpham: surely you guys have caught on by now
Bugpowder: fastcash is out of money to buy
kakobrekla: lol
MJR_: ;;asks 250
gribble: There are currently 7660.0099 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 1787629.91563 USD in total. | Data vintage: 107.2681 seconds
Bugpowder: old coins ARE moving. http://blockchain.info/charts/bitcoin-days-destroyed-min-year?showDataPoints=false&timespan=&show_header=true&daysAverageString=7&scale=0&address=
MJR_: ;;asks 230
gribble: There are currently 3650.8952 bitcoins offered at or under 230.0 USD, worth 813546.641479 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0009 seconds
MJR_: interesting statistic though
MJR_: because if they are dumping bad...if they are not hoarding good...so which will it be?
Bugpowder: well, seeing as the price is still going up and they are selling some coin off, I think its great
MJR_: i agree
Bugpowder: increasing the effective base
Bugpowder: more market participants
Bugpowder: move even distribution
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 218.37900, Best ask: 218.38000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00100, Last trade: 218.38000, 24 hour volume: 107587.39057991, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 218.37999, 24 hour vwap: 191.81253
Scrat: this is madness
ThickAsThieves: nearly $30 difference between vwap and price
ThickAsThieves: i guess we need to start thinking % increase
ThickAsThieves: rather than dollars
kakobrekla: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 230474 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1365 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 19 hours, 11 minutes, and 59 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8983388.21622 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.07791
kakobrekla: fyi http://smpake.com/etc/btc/charts.php
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10125 @ 0.00068861 = 6.9722 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9965 @ 0.00070898 = 7.065 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6760 @ 0.00071145 = 4.8094 BTC [+]
taub: dont you love it when the data craps out
kakobrekla: we will be CPU mining soon at this rate
Bugpowder: yeah, I might turn the miner back on
Bugpowder: got a GH
Bugpowder: I liked getting woken up to bitcoinity playing a video, and then a message that the next funny gif would be revealed at $1000.
taub: 6.00 5 minutes ago 218.38
taub: unacceptable
taub: i think mtgox is just manipulating price or is using the lag/pause to their advantages to front run etc
mircea_popescu: mkay. strikes up to 500 added
kakobrekla: :D
mircea_popescu: bot will be quoting on the next tick.
Bugpowder: lol
Bugpowder: YES!
Bugpowder: should I roll the calls over to 400s
mircea_popescu: supervised quoting so trades may be unwound.
taub: haha dont be too giddy
jcpham: none of this make sense anymore
Bugpowder: table formatting is whack
jcpham: btw mircea_popescu we're over 300k now in failed btc loans
jcpham: btc equivalent
jcpham: fiat whatever
Namworld: gox lag has been going for so long without being fixed it's fishy...
MJR_: euphoria is beginning to set in
mircea_popescu: jcpham who's we ?
taub: ye pnam
jcpham: more than car, less than house is now more than a house
MJR_: just as bad as panic
taub: yep Namworld
mircea_popescu: Namworld seen the last on trilema ?
jcpham: the collective we
jcpham: me myself and i
Namworld: nay
jcpham: i mean you guys can't determine if there ar 6 of us scrambling like monkeys trading
jcpham: the entity you knows as "jcpham"
ThickAsThieves: i assume jurov will need a day or two to add these new options to coinbr?
jurov: stfu. just came and looking on'em
MJR_: i wonder what percent of options expire worthless
ThickAsThieves: huh?
MJR_: "IRL" 90% of options expire worthless
jurov: ThickAsThieves do tell me, why do you think it takes day or two?
ThickAsThieves: i have no idea
ThickAsThieves: i was just asking a q
ThickAsThieves: i'm no programmer
ThickAsThieves: unless you count some HTML...
ThickAsThieves: are you saying it's much harder or easier than that?
jurov: O.o even if i hand-inputted sql statement for every mpsic, it would be less than a day
ThickAsThieves: word, i thought it was pretty easy, wasnt trying to insult or anything
ThickAsThieves: i stil <3 you
jurov: oh sry i sounded out harsher than i meant to
jurov: no hard feelings, i was just wtf?
ThickAsThieves: :) back to your regularly scheduled programming
ThickAsThieves: (pun intended)
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 218.39000, Best ask: 218.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.56000, Last trade: 218.39000, 24 hour volume: 107667.08430243, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 218.38000, 24 hour vwap: 191.89077
mircea_popescu: jcpham this reminds me of the time george costanza + seinfeld decided they need like 3 of them to make up a guy enouygh to mate.
error4733: ;;calc 11000000*218
gribble: 2398000000
Bugpowder: Looks like handling the unfunded order book was a source of goxlag... https://mtgox.com/press_release_20130409.html
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7749 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i wonder why they are waiting that many days to change it
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.775 = 9.3 BTC [+]
Scrat: Bugpowder: LOL
MJR_: mircea_popescu: quick question about DDOS, do you think an EC2 instance is prone to hardware failure in the networking aspect (it is easy to just bring up new instances of the server, but you had said the router is the point of failure)
mircea_popescu: well it was one of the things people said they liked,.
mircea_popescu: MJR_ if you only expose it through their load balancer should be fine in most cases.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7798 = 3.1192 BTC [+]
Scrat: dont you get to pay the (rather large) bill if you get ddos'ed on ec2?
Scrat: on outgoing traffic obviously
MJR_: mircea_popescu: that is what i was thinking, building out infrastructure now, and that came up...i'm a big fan of having instances running and waiting to be failed over to. Last design issue I wanted to think about is an "airgap" solution for something that is in the cloud...
MJR_: Scrat: DDOS is inbound
MJR_: Scrat: so as long as you don't respond to spam, you should be fine
MJR_: Scrat: but you will incur more costs as you bring up more servers to handle the CPU side of the DDOS, I was mostly worried about the network hardware side
jurov: All added to coinbr.
Scrat: MJR_: a smart attack targetted against ec2 would pull static assets with legit looking requests
ThickAsThieves: thx jurov
MJR_: Scrat: i think btctc.co had an implementation to stop that, force a 3 second + redirect to the actual resource
MJR_: Scrat: or just only allow a certain number of logins per hour per account
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C272T] 5 @ 0.06780302 = 0.339 BTC
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 272 / .93
gribble: 292.47311828
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 217.00000, Best ask: 218.50000, Bid-ask spread: 1.50000, Last trade: 217.00000, 24 hour volume: 107667.08430243, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 218.38000, 24 hour vwap: 191.89077
MJR_: Scrat: a million ways to deal with traffic, as long as your router doesn't blow up
MJR_: but forcing them to blow up all of amazon in order to stop you is quite a barrier to entry
Scrat: MJR_: yeah I'm not saying otherwise, but in that case the objective of the attacker is to slap you with a $100k ec2 bill
thestringpuller: wow mircea_popescu that is a simple formula
MJR_: Scrat: I need to do more research, but it is outgoing that will run up the bill...you can throttle that based on a bunch of heuristics
Scrat: MJR_: it is, incoming traffic is free
thestringpuller: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 191.14
MJR_: no legit user needs more than 1000 logins per hour...and you only allow legit traffic to pull the resource heavy outgoing data
Scrat: don't need a session id to access say logo and css
jurov: MJR_, Scrat: I also have request limiter set up, caused regular users to get 503 error till i tuned it up
MJR_: obviously, you can stop non-legit users from creating accounts by having a funding requirement of 1btc etc...too costly to create the accounts, and why would you want to put all your coins into the hands of the guy you're attacking
MJR_: filtering legit users from spam is a lot easier than trying to stop traffic before it hits the router (actually impossible, it'll always hit SOME network device that you need)
thestringpuller: ;;seen Bugpowder
gribble: Bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 minutes and 4 seconds ago: <Bugpowder> Looks like handling the unfunded order book was a source of goxlag... https://mtgox.com/press_release_20130409.html
taub: I sold
taub: cant be dealing with this laggy exchange
mircea_popescu: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 198.983512 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.398760730118 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
mircea_popescu: heh
Scrat: taub: quantify sold
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/lag/ how come nothing on last 2 gfx ?
kakobrekla: started logging less than a week ago
taub: well worse than the time lag is the fact that no data stream is working no way to see the order book and trades
Bugpowder: oh jesus bidwall
mircea_popescu: but look at the dates
mircea_popescu: 4/03 you have data on some gfx not on others
Scrat: ThickAsThieves: whenever there's a rally payments stop :'(
Bugpowder: just cashed a bit more on fastcash
kakobrekla: dunno im guessing it will show up by itself
Bugpowder: should have locked it and waited to see if there was a dip
kakobrekla: ill see whats up with that if it doesnt
kakobrekla: whats the point of the 1mo chart now anyway
Bugpowder: where is the cancel button on Bitcoin-QT/
kakobrekla: if even a week is not full
mircea_popescu: not out of need, but since data should have been plotting and isn't i thought worth the mention
deadweasel: bug, where do you cash out?
Bugpowder: fastcash4bitcoins.com
deadweasel: thx
Bugpowder: they pay under market, but its fast and easy and run by someone with a clue.
taub: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 327.08457 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.655473816059 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
taub: \o/
kakobrekla: yeah its true mircea_popescu, something is acting up
Bugpowder: jesus... $14.1MM
kakobrekla: AND ITS NOT BITCOIN!
taub: 222.22 USD / BTC
deadweasel: nom nom nom
punkman: "Bitcoin is a tax on people who are bad at Byzantine fault tolerance."
jurov: and i thought it will abandon the parabolic(or even exponential) rise.. not yet
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in gold, http://bullmarketthinking.com/comex-gold-inventories-collapse-by-largest-amount-on-record/
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C296T] 100 @ 0.05114951 = 5.115 BTC
pgp: that gox press release was just as I suspected... doing some sort of recursive credit check for unfunded orders...
mircea_popescu: what'd be recursive about it ?
taub: >Greece is considering slapping a .162 billion invoice on Germany as compensation for the Second World War.
taub: lmao
Scrat: pgp: I doubt thats the culprit. that would allow anyone to turn captchas into gox lag
Scrat: surprisingly stupid
mircea_popescu: Scrat they've done surprisingly stupid shit before.
taub: 162b eur that is
Namworld: Do you have funds to fund the order? Yes. Do you have funds to fund the funds to fund the order? Yes. Repeat process 1 billion time on each order.
Namworld: You get gox lag.
mircea_popescu: eh that'
mircea_popescu: s not how it works
mircea_popescu: just have a process move order to active when funds clear
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.775 BTC [-]
Namworld: lag is not how it's supposed to work either. They must be doing something wrong somewhere...
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7605 = 1.521 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: then again considering the string of insanities sturles was sprouting the other day, it wouldn't surprise me if they run it like that.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C194T] 9 @ 0.20098104 = 1.8088 BTC
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7601 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75902 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75901 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75501 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.755 = 3.775 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.753 = 5.271 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.751 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.751 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.7503 = 11.2545 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.75 = 5.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.74001 = 8.8801 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.740003 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 0.740001 = 18.5 BTC [-]
Scrat: assbot
Scrat: stahp
mircea_popescu: lol it worked
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7391 = 1.4782 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: lol
Bugpowder: $14.6MM
ThickAsThieves: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 32321686 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14630014.4001 USD in total. | Data vintage: 57.1659 seconds
ThickAsThieves: wow
Bugpowder: I think the number needs to go up to support the current price though
Scrat: that's the same 12 million amplified by the new exchange value
pgp: let's say that I have funded buys and sell in gox and unfunded buys and sell, doesn't an execution on one side force them to check all the orders on the other side for same person?
Bugpowder: the walls need to be higher
Bugpowder: errr, at a higher value
pgp: not really recursive, but a shitload required checking with every order and execution...
jurov: !ticker m ^oix
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 110.64241833 / 147.74091471 / 182.77959828 (19650 shares, 4,629.08 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
pgp: no?
jurov: accrding to oix, practically all calls are deep in the money... feels sorry for bondholders
mircea_popescu: pgp why the fuck check ?
jurov: seems i can completely close MPBPT :(
pgp: question: with fastcash4bitcoins.com, isn't there an arb on that 15 min window when volatility is high? kinda like a free put?
mircea_popescu: keep a process on the clearing side, just move things in the active bnook as funds clear
jurov: mircea_popescu: as a representative of bondholders i request you to increase price on calls
Bugpowder: lol
mircea_popescu: lol
pgp: mp: I agree they shouldn't, but if their system is built around the idea of allowing unfunded order to be promoted to funded orders, that would occur no just when money comed in or out, but for those making two sided markets as well...
jurov: :)
mircea_popescu: pgp i still don't see what changes. when money comes in order is moved into active.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing to check.
Bugpowder: pgp yes, though during high volatility the price gap increases
Bugpowder: its tough to beat him.
pgp: i see - you've tried, then?
Bugpowder: yeah a little.
Bugpowder: my friend is more anal about it
mircea_popescu: why not do something useful, rather than try and squeeze pennies out of a service
pgp: I don't... just was reading their t&c's...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.25 = 0.5 BTC [-]
jurov: ;;calc 215/(1-0.087)
gribble: 235.487404162
Bugpowder: holdy fucking bidwall
jurov: ^ mircea_popescu, but im serious. C215T may be in the money tomorrow as it looks
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C248T] 100 @ 0.10431071 = 10.4311 BTC
Bugpowder: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 32320610 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 16067341.6473 USD in total. | Data vintage: 53.9271 seconds
deadweasel: holy crap 16 il
Bugpowder: C300T will be ITM tomorrow
mircea_popescu: well sure it may be in the money.
mircea_popescu: if calls couldn't make moneuy nobody would buy them
jurov: MPOE is exposing itself to undue risk, don't you think?
Bugpowder: bot should also BUY calls
Bugpowder: at a higher price
Bugpowder: I recommend 0.8 for the C137Ts.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.15267922 = 152.6792 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C215T] 30 @ 0.15955155 = 4.7865 BTC
mircea_popescu: lolwut
pgp: mp: regardng gox. If I have a funded buy order and an unfunded sell order for same amount and yet another unfunded buy order unde my funded buy order, then when first buy order gets triggered then sell order now becomes funded, no? and when sell gets executed the second buy order now become funded....
kakobrekla: o, wall
kakobrekla: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
mircea_popescu: jurov the risk is this : if price goes up, short calls lose money. if price goes down, they make money.
mircea_popescu: what's unde about that ?
mircea_popescu: pgp so what, have trade engine check with clearing ?
jurov: how many short calls are there, not many i daresay.
mircea_popescu: one'd have to be retarded to be like that.
mircea_popescu: jurov all calls the bot sells are short to the bot.
Enky: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 222.50000, Best ask: 223.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 223.00000, 24 hour volume: 111105.23170259, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 223.76000, 24 hour vwap: 194.02951
pgp: mp: agreed gox is retarded - i'll bet that there system does funding check on every execution - it explains a lot and is consistent with their press release...
mircea_popescu: this is what you get when geeks get involved in software design.
pgp: an alternative explanation is that they run their matching engine on a commodore 64
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C248T] 10 @ 0.10489348 = 1.0489 BTC [+]
deadweasel: no surprise there
AndroUser2: ;;ticker
thestringpuller: !ticker m ^oix
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 222.50000, Best ask: 223.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 223.00000, 24 hour volume: 111105.23170259, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 223.76000, 24 hour vwap: 194.02951
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 110.64241833 / 148.3968512 / 183.81305704 (19790 shares, 4,645.34 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.548 = 3.096 BTC [-]
jurov: <mircea_popescu> jurov all calls the bot sells are short to the bot. <<< and thus to bondholders
mircea_popescu: yeah.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29349 @ 0.00069022 = 20.2573 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00070222 = 7.1626 BTC [+]
jurov: i mean, isn't it so unreasonable to assume March will possibly repeat, and do valuation adjustment?
mircea_popescu: why am i assuming ?
jurov: what you're assuming then?
mircea_popescu: nothing.
mircea_popescu: if we knew wtf is ghoing on we wouldn't need optioons in the fuirst place
jurov: two months in a row loss for MPOE bonds will cause having to cover them all yourself, can't we at least assume that as a baseline?
jurov: or are you sure this is very unlikely?
mircea_popescu: im not sure of anything tbh.
mircea_popescu: what are you so aggitated about anyway, the oix is half puts
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.779 = 1.558 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [-]
jurov: i'm agitated about the call part of oix :)
ThickAsThieves: jurov, it seems you are questioning mp for bonds you bought knowing the same trend already
ThickAsThieves: no?
mircea_popescu: ya but if you think about it, if options sold are half put half call by volume... what's gonna happen ?
mircea_popescu: they can't both win
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.54 = 15.4 BTC [-]
bgupta: and remember because it's $ profits as calls move more and more into the money they have a built in profit limiter.
jurov: i didn't put much into bonds myself. but i'm being MPBPT operator here
jurov: and MPBPT May is not selling at all
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.15160246 = 151.6025 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i'm surprised APR sold
Namworld: the premium asked by the bot is already MUCH larger
AndroUser2: The tide will change though
jurov: options sold are half put half call by volume, really? then it's okay, should have researched it before freaking out.
ChaangNoi: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 32320703 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 15982219.3621 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0107 seconds
ChaangNoi: 16 million? fuck me
AndroUser2: Freaking out will only lead to impedements ;
ChaangNoi: we might hit 300 this week
ChaangNoi: asks 99999999999
mircea_popescu: jurov well it's what mpex.co main page says
ChaangNoi: ;;asks 99999999999
gribble: There are currently 33949.898 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999999.0 USD, worth 124147627774.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 56.7975 seconds
ChaangNoi: wow
jcpham: someone lit the fuse on the rocket a few weeks back
jcpham: i think it has 2 months of fuel left at least
jcpham: but that's me
ChaangNoi: its just now going into hyperdrive
taub: 225 getting interesting
jcpham: 500 tomorrow would be epicly interesting
taub: hah no way :)
jcpham: but that's more like next week
AndroUser2: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 32320982 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 15996422.2562 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.3289 seconds
jcpham: the market cap did just double in about 9 days
ChaangNoi: ;;ticker
ChaangNoi: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 224.00000, Best ask: 224.48980, Bid-ask spread: 0.48980, Last trade: 224.48980, 24 hour volume: 109285.52746947, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 224.70000, 24 hour vwap: 195.30955
jcpham: if no one was paying attention
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 224.00000, Best ask: 224.48980, Bid-ask spread: 0.48980, Last trade: 224.48980, 24 hour volume: 109285.52746947, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 224.70000, 24 hour vwap: 195.30955
ChaangNoi: 225?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.0007035 = 1.407 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: mp/jurov could you flush deposits?
ChaangNoi: and 500 is too much, over 1005 jump could happen but it would take a while to get a new ath
ChaangNoi: a while being 4 days or so, lol
thestringpuller: ;;asks 250
gribble: There are currently 5912.9431 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 1410255.58397 USD in total. | Data vintage: 69.2906 seconds
ChaangNoi: ;;aks 500
gribble: Error: "aks" is not a valid command.
thestringpuller: ;;bids 200
gribble: There are currently 20728.936 bitcoins demanded at or over 200.0 USD, worth 4370048.45664 USD in total. | Data vintage: 85.1904 seconds
ChaangNoi: ;;asks 500
gribble: There are currently 16400.756 bitcoins offered at or under 500.0 USD, worth 4935155.15891 USD in total. | Data vintage: 90.9606 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C047T] 4 @ 0.76327969 = 3.0531 BTC [+]
ChaangNoi: 5 million to 500
jurov: not yet, i just sent some deposits over to mpex
ChaangNoi: but the day traders...
Namworld: I wonder when we'll be at the "IT'S OVER 9000!!!" point... with everyone repeating that of course.
taub: Until recently, anyone could place a buy or sell order for Bitcoin, regardless of how much funds were actually available in their wallet, resulting in an order showing a "Not enough funds" error status in the Open Orders list.
taub: Starting on April 17th, this counter productive scenario will no longer be possible and will be automatically rejected before validating your order; until you have enough funds in your wallet to match the order value.
Namworld: Certainly not during this rally
taub: i called it
taub: so called it
ChaangNoi: how are my calls looking 218 and im in the money, fuck yeah
Namworld: Maybe in a few years tho
taub: that's whats causing the lag
ChaangNoi: and we still ahve weeks to go, lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.53000001 BTC [-]
jurov: btw if someone is funding coinbr with large sum and i'm around, ask me for direct deposit to mpex
Namworld: If I had been putting ALL my money in calls each month since the beggining I'd probably have like 20k BTC by now or something >.>
mircea_popescu: or nothing.
ChaangNoi: 225
Namworld: or nothing =P
ChaangNoi: for real this time
Namworld: Which is exactly why I didn't buy...
ThickAsThieves: will do jurov
Namworld: of course if people knew it wasn't going to crash during the month, people would buy more of them
ThickAsThieves: i have a 2nd large deposit already going to you tho
mircea_popescu: whatever happened to that dude was going to short mpoe last ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 24 @ 0.21 = 5.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C212N] 4 @ 0.39140833 = 1.5656 BTC
KRS-1: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 121.32087 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.243125665104 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.2222225 = 0.8889 BTC [-]
AndroUser2: taub, mtgox is changing their order system on the 17th?
jcpham: anyone shorting anything in bitcoinland is probably burned
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C320N] 1 @ 0.24445838 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2222 = 0.6666 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.2222 = 1.3332 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 230487 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1352 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 19 hours, 33 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8970854.58548 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.91457
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00070866 = 4.1811 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9333 @ 0.00071 = 6.6264 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.221 = 0.663 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;seen Bugpowder
gribble: Bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 37 minutes and 53 seconds ago: <Bugpowder> I recommend 0.8 for the C137Ts.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.06600001 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: Bugpowder: did you push to smickles?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.22 = 1.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 24 @ 0.21 = 5.04 BTC [+]
ll: !t m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0027 / 0.00276292 / 0.00333327 (51603 shares, 142.58 BTC), 7D: 0.0027 / 0.00309136 / 0.00400173 (503326 shares, 1,555.97 BTC), 30D: 0.0027 / 0.00361436 / 0.006 (1689030 shares, 6,104.77 BTC)
KRS-1: ;;quotes
gribble: Error: "quotes" is not a valid command.
KRS-1: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 227.00000, Best ask: 227.85990, Bid-ask spread: 0.85990, Last trade: 227.85990, 24 hour volume: 109285.52746947, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 224.70000, 24 hour vwap: 195.30955
thestringpuller: $avg
mpexbot: thestringpuller: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
thestringpuller: ;;bc,24hprc
thestringpuller: ugh
gribble: 197.23
thestringpuller: oh
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.741 = 1.482 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C104T] 120 @ 0.47411495 = 56.8938 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C104T] 10 @ 0.47411495 = 4.7411 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C302T] 1000 @ 0.06147506 = 61.4751 BTC
error4733: "i short btc @ 35$" poor poor guy
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C305T] 100 @ 0.05949934 = 5.9499 BTC
error4733: worst timing EVER
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.13928 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.24 BTC [-]
gesell: buy ask walls on bitcoinity dont match actual orderbook (as compared with clarkmoody)
gesell: shows a huge 8k btc wall at 212.13 that isnt in the order books
gesell: oh wait
gesell: found it in the order books
gesell: 212.11 for 9k btc
gesell: thats a $2million order
gesell: bid
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: two clicks iof the button
pgp: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.22000001 = 0.44 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: !ticker m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00065356 / 0.00068704 / 0.00071145 (560512 shares, 385.10 BTC), 7D: 0.00063322 / 0.00068728 / 0.00071514 (2019787 shares, 1,388.17 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068919 / 0.00077505 (9481307 shares, 6,534.43 BTC)
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 165 @ 0.11711 = 19.3232 BTC [-]
KRS-1: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 225.00000, Best ask: 225.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.99999, Last trade: 225.99999, 24 hour volume: 102831.28291584, 24 hour low: 178.00100, 24 hour high: 227.86018, 24 hour vwap: 198.06245
TomServo: Will one of you whales crash this thing already? This is absurd.
ThickAsThieves: Just put some low strike options for sale under bot prices, if anyone is interested
ThickAsThieves: 86s thru 122s
mircea_popescu: how come i don't see them ?!
gesell: TomServo: the wales are pumping it still
ThickAsThieves: coinbr says "queued"
gesell: i doubt a whale could crash it either. the best you could hope for is a ddos :P
ThickAsThieves: :/
mircea_popescu: ;;sell 50000
gribble: (sell <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a sell order for <amount> units of <thing, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask|bid|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also include (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: heh
ThickAsThieves: jurov, not sure if you're aware already but I have some sell orders that seem to be hung up
ThickAsThieves: ;;market --sell 50000
gribble: A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 9392456.7823 USD and would take the last price down to 135.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 187.8491 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 60.1194 seconds
gesell: mircea_popescu: you have to add the amount and price ;)
gesell: then we'll watch it fall
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.041 = 3.123 BTC [-]
jurov: ThickAsThieves: yes moment found some issue and debugging it
ThickAsThieves: sweet
mircea_popescu: i dont recall what the command is, but it tells you where priceends up
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 15 @ 0.00021 = 0.0032 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i'll bet you a 50k btc straight sell takes it under 100 atm
ThickAsThieves: its right up there mp ^
ThickAsThieves: ;;market --sell 50000
gribble: A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 9392456.7823 USD and would take the last price down to 135.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 187.8491 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 110.0784 seconds
gesell: when has there been a 50k sell?
ThickAsThieves: if someone dropped 50k coins, buyers would be ecstatic
Namworld: last crash from 33 USD to peanuts?
Namworld: was a hack but anyway
mircea_popescu: ah ok
mircea_popescu: im not sure if ecstatic or paniced.
TomServo: Then it'll really crash when Gox can't pay out. ;)
mircea_popescu: :p
mircea_popescu: "o, just some checking"
mircea_popescu: "our dwolla ran away with the tradehill"
mircea_popescu: "we must wake up the developers"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.0007035 = 0.0704 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.011 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ok the options i have for sale should be showing now
gesell: dont know if anyone is interested but speculating on the utility of bitcoin pre-2013 and putting SR at the top of the list... basing utility worth on yearly revenue would put btc at $1.6 per coin. It held actually around this value this until speculation started to flow in. bubble, craash... settled back to around $3 for the year and up to $13 before end of 2012. Putting price of bitcoin as a function of utility + speculation where speculation is one of
ThickAsThieves: 86-122
gesell: bullshit im sure but didnt know if anyone would be itnerested
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: would you mind highlighting me when you flush deposits? Thanks
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 i see a ton of unconfirmed stuff
mircea_popescu: pray to the miner gods
ThickAsThieves: oh miner gods, where for art thou
mircea_popescu: gesell assuymption is broken
mircea_popescu: sr wasn't at the tiop of the list since 2011
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.0007035 = 4.3617 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.45 = 7.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 15 @ 1.41 = 21.15 BTC [-]
gesell: sorting order for orderbook on clarkmoody is messed up. (sorts in descending order: 212.0 212.9 212.8 ... 212.1 211.0)
AndroUser2: ;;ticker
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.21 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C308T] 100 @ 0.05923571 = 5.9236 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 14 @ 1.41 = 19.74 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: Havelock almost back to IPO price
Namworld: all these things will keep going down...
mircea_popescu: wait
mircea_popescu: !ticker h him
assbot: [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.41000000 / 1.55749155 / 1.89000000 (71 shares, 110.58190010 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.75401928 / 2.04400000 (166 shares, 291.16720010 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.8343251 / 2.08000000 (733 shares, 1344.56029840 BTC)
mircea_popescu: eh
Bugpowder: OH SHIT
Bugpowder: I guesss the wall got impatient
taub: holy shit
jborkl_: 235
jborkl_: 237
jborkl_: 239
Bugpowder: its gotta be that wall
Bugpowder: of $2MM
Bugpowder: well
Bugpowder: maybe not
Bugpowder: we will see soon!
jborkl_: 223
Bugpowder: looks like the wall bought half
pizzaman1337: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 223.76020, Best ask: 231.99870, Bid-ask spread: 8.23850, Last trade: 223.76020, 24 hour volume: 101197.60668312, 24 hour low: 178.00100, 24 hour high: 227.86018, 24 hour vwap: 198.89449
Scrat: wat
Scrat: ;;ticker --last
gribble: 239.11100
jborkl_: 239
jborkl_: its all over the place now
jborkl_: sockets are crashing
Bugpowder: yep. Confirmed
Bugpowder: Wall at 212 cut in half
Bugpowder: ;;asks 340
gribble: There are currently 9616.2331 bitcoins offered at or under 340.0 USD, worth 2618836.03002 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: Remember "20 is a bifurcation point..." ?
ChaangNo_: wpw
mircea_popescu: 20 thousands!!1
Bugpowder: 168MM market cap for S.MPOE
kakobrekla: ;;ticker --last
gribble: 229.77000
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.42 = 7.1 BTC [+]
pizzaman1337: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 1 hour and 5 seconds
pizzaman1337: what?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.248899 = 1.2445 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 162 @ 0.2489 = 40.3218 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2221 = 0.4442 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.22000006 = 0.66 BTC [-]
pizzaman1337: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 2 minutes and 11 seconds
error4733: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0027 / 0.00276292 / 0.00333327 (51603 shares, 142.58 BTC), 7D: 0.0027 / 0.00309136 / 0.00400173 (503326 shares, 1,555.97 BTC), 30D: 0.0027 / 0.00358308 / 0.006 (1666530 shares, 5,971.32 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 32 @ 0.22 = 7.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00270001 = 0.54 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.234 BTC [-]
MJR_: yay new ath
MJR_: quick question, and this may seem stupid
MJR_: with socket.io, a client web page would request the socket.io client library from the server...
MJR_: to clarify, the client's browser would request that library and then load it...but if you are not in control of the server, how do you know where to get the client library from?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.41 = 8.46 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.269 = 0.538 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00153 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19821 @ 0.00070415 = 13.957 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7822 @ 0.00071 = 5.5536 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00153 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00279 = 0.0279 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 80 @ 0.00152 = 0.1216 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.002781 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.002781 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 70 @ 0.0027 = 0.189 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 59 @ 0.00261 = 0.154 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 129 @ 0.0026 = 0.3354 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.22 = 0.44 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 8 minutes and 10 seconds
deadweasel: should i let my 188s expire or sell?
mircea_popescu: always the question.
jcpham: i think 188 isn't happening again anytime soon
AndroUser2: Keep them a bit
jcpham: but what do i know
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C302T] 100 @ 0.06611514 = 6.6115 BTC [+]
unbalanced_: MJR_: a common use case is socket.io goes on your server and in your own client web page
unbalanced_: Your code at both ends.
jcpham: i wouldn't have payed 188 yesterday if i thought we'd see it again
AndroUser2: Ive got a few too :)
mod6: wth is going on
jcpham: mircea_popescu i payed 188 yesterday and almost got sick about it
jcpham: not feeling so bad today though
jcpham: i'll be priced out soon if i don't keep up
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00322 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: heh
jcpham: little guys can't even play with the big kids in the pool
Bugpowder: sell pressure building
Bugpowder: I think we have reached the top for the day.
gesell: can someone tell me what that huge order was in the past 30 min????
Bugpowder: see at 250 tomorrow
gesell: how much was it for?
Bugpowder: It for $1M
Doffx: 5000+
Bugpowder: half of the bidwall at 212
gesell: bingo
gesell: that is what i wanted to know
Doffx: 5159.98 x 230 per
gesell: Bugpowder: did you see it get moved? how close to the edge of the wall was it moved before being eaten up, Or did he just move it directly to the other wal?
AndroUser2: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 237.62376, Best ask: 237.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.32624, Last trade: 237.62376, 24 hour volume: 106406.95928128, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 239.11100, 24 hour vwap: 202.27481
unbalanced_: MJR_: your server code could talk via APIs to anything it wants. In theory the client could too. Mix and match communication with different end points as your app requires.
gesell: btw, anyone know of an api for bitcoin.de. have people that use my tools asking for support for this exchange but cant find any api documentation (though bitcoincharts must get it somehow)
unbalanced_: I'm not an export though.
ThickAsThieves: still no confirms on mpex deposits?
TomServo: Bugpowder | I think we have reached the top for the day. << 5 mins later, new top. Sillyness.
kakobrekla: is why he quit.
pgp: even for the most bullish among us - gotta admit that this seems a bit scary....
TomServo: I agree.
taub: ya
deadweasel: no way, this is thrilling, my moneys out + x2 profit.
deadweasel: let it crash, i'll buy in again with profits
taub: i'm expecting big ask walls to come out of the wood works any minute now
taub: like back in $93
mircea_popescu: you know... obviously it would have been better if this happened slowly, over the course of a year.
mircea_popescu: but what ever is reasonable ?
mircea_popescu: come to think about it, the evolution of BTC mimicks the evolution of s.mpoe.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00071 = 0.781 BTC [+]
pgp: no precedent for something like this, i suppose...
mircea_popescu: itstarted at 0.00002, went to 0.004 within a fewe mionths
jborkl_: 400*240
mircea_popescu: and it's been sorta there since then
zinodaur: mircea, care-i treaba :p
mircea_popescu: maybe btc does a similar number. runs up to 1k or w/e, then spends a year there.
mircea_popescu: zinodaur bine.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 239.00001, Best ask: 239.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.97999, Last trade: 239.98000, 24 hour volume: 106856.63799052, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 239.11100, 24 hour vwap: 202.50570
zinodaur: de prin ce parte a tarii o arzi ? :)
mircea_popescu: that was an ath.
mircea_popescu: zinodaur timisoara.
zinodaur: ah.
jborkl_: 240
mircea_popescu: ye
taub: price seems to know only one way
mircea_popescu: 159.62 2 minutes ago 240.00
kakobrekla: its good to be the king.
mircea_popescu: im like... o wait, that's like... a house ? cool.
deadweasel: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 264.997942 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.531052908703 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00071 = 13.348 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P308T] 1 @ 0.89573103 BTC
taub: i dont hold any btc right now
taub: not nervous yet
zinodaur: christ
taub: oh 5 min lag here we go, if i had btc i'd start to get nervous now
zinodaur: it'd be a dream to stabilise at 250 :p
taub: :s
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.00069 = 0.0014 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: zinodaur sell at 250 and it will be stable there
mircea_popescu: lol
iz: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 239.00001, Best ask: 240.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.99999, Last trade: 240.00000, 24 hour volume: 106856.63799052, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 239.11100, 24 hour vwap: 202.50570
bitesak: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 238.10000, Best ask: 239.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.90000, Last trade: 238.10000, 24 hour volume: 106856.63799052, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 239.11100, 24 hour vwap: 202.50570
mircea_popescu: there's like 5 txs to mpex have been waiting to be confirmed for > 2 hours by now
mircea_popescu: i guess people are learning the value of keeping your btc on mpex ?
deadweasel: lol 240
unbalanced_: Virtex at $289 CAD...
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C248T] 10 @ 0.13299188 = 1.3299 BTC [+]
taub: bleeeed
pizzaman1337: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 262.702221 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.526452309523 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
deadweasel: s.dice...... :(
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000685 = 0.0069 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.04000001 BTC [-]
deadweasel: $avg
mpexbot: deadweasel: 203.29
deadweasel: yay :)
jurov: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 230495 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1344 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 1 hour, 8 minutes, and 58 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8910584.56432 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.12908
unbalanced_: Listen, I don't want to alarm anyone, but I think we may be heading towards bubble territory soon. Just sayin'.
deadweasel: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 248.891458 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.498775695104 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
deadweasel: unbalanced_: i am not alarmed.
Doffx: OMG I am alarmed!
deadweasel: this is expected. in that i expected antything at any moment.
deadweasel: still do
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.269 BTC [+]
deadweasel: will retrace tonight, or not, then up around 4am EST
Doffx: Maybe the BTC price will surpass my Bubbled mortgage
mircea_popescu: unbalanced_ ity's not even 3x the previous enfoced plateau
Doffx: and I can pay it off with bubbled BTC
deadweasel: i hope so!
Doffx: Me too.
taub: gonna be a long night...
taub: everbody calls ia bubble now pretty much
taub: how long can this go on, with peple being anxious to big moves in either side
Namworld: everyone in these channels (which have been around for a long time) call it a bubble. Some have been for a long time
ThickAsThieves: $avg
mpexbot: ThickAsThieves: 203.69
kakobrekla: since 30
Namworld: While on places like MtGox, LocalBitcoins, etc
unbalanced_: Dudes, I was being facetious. https://www.google.ca/search?q=facetious
Namworld: tons of newbies flocks by the ton to buy...
unbalanced_: This is like high school all over again. Nobody understands me... :)
Doffx: I think we see 1000 before this ends at this rate.
Namworld: nah, not everyone calls it so
Namworld: I was wondering if we'd reach 100, I said, we just have to reach 100 before it pops...
Doffx: And if BTC reakky gets adopted completely well beyond 1000.
Namworld: now we're like way over...
unbalanced_: According to Dr. Rodrigue, the "media attention" phase we're in now is just The Beginning of the run-up: http://i.imgur.com/iMjfGf7.jpg
Doffx: really*
Namworld: If it reach 1000 I'll go nuts
Namworld: but compared to the mean, we should be way lower and are almost moving vertically over it
Namworld: We're like at greed/delusion
Doffx: Well, 3 months ago if you said BTC will be at 240 id would have called you nutts.
unbalanced_: it's just starting to verticalize(TM) on log charts.
MJR_: benkay?
Doffx: Happened so fast.
Namworld: Look the 365 exponential moving average
Namworld: 365 days
Namworld: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#tgSza1gEMAzm1g365zm2g21
Namworld: it's slowly moving up...
Namworld: but the current price is just bending the line crazily
Namworld: and is way, way over
Namworld: It's not like bitcoin businesses can grow and develop overnight
Namworld: That price rise is speculative from flocking "investors"
deadweasel: specul;ators can tho
Namworld: not true adoption
mircea_popescu: Namworld how do you know it's not investors catching up with adoption ?
deadweasel: don't, i will hold minus 5% profit leak at intervals
deadweasel: the rest of the process be damned.
Namworld: Seems odd...
Namworld: It's usually the other way around...
InstantBTC: mircea_popescu, interesting point but I agree with namworld
deadweasel: if it ain't broke...
Namworld: maybe but... I don't think that's the case
InstantBTC: what I see is the buying wall shrinking
taub: I don't see the adoption yet
taub: i see a lot of sites accepting donations with bitcoins tho
deadweasel: you adopted it
InstantBTC: taub, there actually has been a lot of adoption
taub: so that's some sign
InstantBTC: e-gov is letting citizens in e-gov areas pay for things with bitcoin now
InstantBTC: I think that's probably the biggest adoption this week
taub: when you can buy tf2 hats on steam with bitcoins we're going to am illion per coin lol
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: InstantBTC i see both arguments
mircea_popescu: the problem is partitioning reality among them
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.395 = 0.79 BTC [-]
InstantBTC: I don't think tf2 hats have a strong enough influence on... any economy to make anything worth 1 million lol
mircea_popescu: he was being funny.
InstantBTC: ah. now I see what the other guy in #bitcoin-otc meant by get sarcasm detector working before coming here lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.779 = 1.558 BTC [+]
taub: only half kidding, ofc not 1m, but something like steam adopting would be huge huge nwes
mircea_popescu: taub we can settle on half of 10% :p
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00071 = 8.9105 BTC [+]
taub: :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09868 BTC [+]
unbalanced_: In other coin bubble news... Canadian Mint came out with next its series of coins with glass figurines stuck to them:
unbalanced_: http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/fine-silver-coin-purple-coneflower-with-venetian-glass-butterfly-mintage-10000-2013-prod1670015
unbalanced_: Sold out 10,000 at $150 quite quickly.
unbalanced_: A large Canadian reseller store that bought many of them is now sold out at $250 each: http://www.cdncoin.com/product-p/623932043589.htm
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.741 = 2.964 BTC [-]
unbalanced_: All for 1 oz of silver.
deadweasel: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 230.00000, Best ask: 231.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 230.00000, 24 hour volume: 107341.81087907, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 203.79970
deadweasel: bears
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=171388.0
mircea_popescu: how can hazek be this retarded ?
TomServo: heh, #bitcoin is shuffling people over to "#bitcoin-pricetalk"
mircea_popescu: mpex leverage for last month was like 400k btc.
TomServo: real talk, yo.
mircea_popescu: his puny 500k usd are "to da moon" ?
mircea_popescu: where do they find these tards. srsly.
TomServo: don't be jealous of the 'bitcoin opportunity fund' :P
mircea_popescu: i'm just a little sick of this super-superficial attitude
mircea_popescu: "i see x dork on tv, must mean he's rich"
mircea_popescu: yea, that's how it works. totally.
deadweasel: no doubt
deadweasel: killed my tv 8 years ago
mircea_popescu: "mpex is too expensive ergo it doesn't exist. the rich people there do billionty dollars, but it never happened because they don't take my fiddy bux"
FabianB: mircea_popescu: have been thinking, in the 'unlikely' event bitcoin fails in a not too distant future and a good alternative arises (if), what happens to mpex? would you consider moving over and transfering current stock holders?
mircea_popescu: before the recent betsofbitcoin scam bitbet was doing 1.5-2k btc a month, betsofbitcoin was doing 20-50
mircea_popescu: "o, betsofbitcoiin, the tralalala"
mircea_popescu: FabianB yes, in the very catastrophic event you have in mind.
FabianB: just a thought experiment
mircea_popescu: if it's this very clear cut, bitcoin is ded, bitcoin' is here
mircea_popescu: then yes.
FabianB: yeah, of course not if all that happend is price plummeting to 1 usd
FabianB: more like if there's a security problem not fixable and price going to 0
mircea_popescu: depending on context i think simply another alt chain being worth more would mean i move.
mircea_popescu: depending.
mircea_popescu: this is all highly speculative of course and actual situations may play whichever way circumstances dictate etc.
FabianB: that means holding s.mpoe can hedge against btc failure
FabianB: of course
mircea_popescu: holding s.mpoe hedges against everything other than me going mad.
FabianB: seems like :)
ThickAsThieves: wow cant believe these deposits havent cleared yet...
pizzaman1337: yeah, it's been a while...
ThickAsThieves: .0002 tx fee
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C215T] 2 @ 0.20526835 = 0.4105 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.41 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: @Mircea_Popescu You should consider introducing #mircoin
mircea_popescu: that's possibly the most ridiculous sounding thing ever. mircoin
jborkl_: sounds too much like micon
deadweasel: popescucoin?
deadweasel: cucoin!
deadweasel: I'll mine.
mircea_popescu: cockoin
pgp: I wonder what "work" would consist of with cockoin...
taub: mtgox should just die
mircea_popescu: pgp i dunno but everyone mining it has real long penises...
deadweasel: max johnson
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7798 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 235.80001, Best ask: 237.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.19999, Last trade: 235.80001, 24 hour volume: 107994.08151368, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 205.87526
mircea_popescu: eh wtf is this.
mircea_popescu: scam!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 395 @ 0.00071 = 0.2805 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00071052 = 9.2723 BTC [+]
ll: !t m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0027 / 0.00276268 / 0.00333327 (51803 shares, 143.12 BTC), 7D: 0.0027 / 0.00309121 / 0.00400173 (503526 shares, 1,556.51 BTC), 30D: 0.0027 / 0.00357535 / 0.00599987 (1661472 shares, 5,940.36 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8355 @ 0.00071199 = 5.9487 BTC [+]
bgupta: so what's the longest folks have seen a single transaction take without getting a single confirm?
FabianB: hours
jborkl_: i had 12 hours myself, I am sure there are longer
pizzaman1337: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 236.00102, Best ask: 236.98900, Bid-ask spread: 0.98798, Last trade: 236.00102, 24 hour volume: 107837.97713614, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 206.40299
deadweasel: bgupta 19 hours
bgupta: geez
deadweasel: not enough nodes. what is the node count anyhow?
bgupta: well doesn't difficulty adjust to the numer of nodes?
deadweasel: ask a real miner. i'm a minor miner
bgupta: The network currently has over 2300 pending transactions.. typically only 1000 pending transactions.
jborkl_: no, nodes just relay
jborkl_: 1000 nodes, plus or minus
bgupta: apparently there is a huge and growing backlog in transactions http://blockchain.info/new-transactions
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
jborkl_: this morning it was at 700, right now 2200 - 4-5 blocks real quick would wipe out the backlog - depending on the size
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 1.2 = 8.4 BTC [-]
taub: failing to make a new high
taub: oh bwoy
taub: bitbet needs a better rating system though
taub: like
satoshigaming: is it just me or is this game riggable? http://www.satoshi-karoshi.com/?r=10670 ive just been going left to right and making baaank
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.28 = 0.56 BTC [+]
pigeons: is it just me or are you a spammer
taub: who
TomServo: ha!
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C230T] 100 @ 0.17381693 = 17.3817 BTC
deadweasel: kakobrekla: damnkaroshi spammers are back
kakobrekla: hm
kakobrekla: well not much to do since he posts and parts
kakobrekla: options b is he posts and gets banned and parts
kakobrekla: so .. not much of a win
pigeons: hmm maybe its only riggable if i use his refferal code
deadweasel: that site has viruo ya, i missed that. thx anyhow1
kakobrekla: gah :\
kakobrekla: well im open to ideas here
deadweasel: that site has a virus last time i checked.
deadweasel: no worries. kakobrekla, i thought he was going to sell it. i missed him 'partin'
pigeons: i dont click links in this channel anyway, too much porn
deadweasel: ^
deadweasel: yup
deadweasel: although when i'm not at work i clickem all
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C260T] 120 @ 0.1206268 = 14.4752 BTC
kakobrekla: meh work
KRS-1: is this teh new high
deadweasel: clockin' out, later!
mircea_popescu: deposits flushed
Doffx: If I remember correctly kakobrekla was living off BTC income a very long time ago.
mircea_popescu: ya but meanwhile that went bust
mircea_popescu: now he's living off plucking pigeons
kakobrekla: :D
topace|2: !ticker h vtx
assbot: [HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.20000000 / 0.2247293 / 0.29999990 (522 shares, 117.30869271 BTC), 7D: 0.20000000 / 0.34787883 / 0.56000000 (1465 shares, 509.64248047 BTC), 30D: 0.20000000 / 0.42544027 / 0.79900000 (14112 shares, 6003.81302600 BTC)
topace|2: !ticker h him
assbot: [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.20000000 / 1.50716374 / 1.89000000 (91 shares, 137.15190010 BTC), 7D: 1.20000000 / 1.70644973 / 2.00000000 (185 shares, 315.69320010 BTC), 30D: 1.20000000 / 1.82089017 / 2.08000000 (753 shares, 1371.13029840 BTC)
kakobrekla: Doffx like 2 years now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00270001 = 2.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 74200 @ 0.0027 = 200.34 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105818.msg1785348#msg1785348
mircea_popescu: lol
Doffx: I need to put more effort in to it.
kakobrekla: well
kakobrekla: its been hard to go bankrupt latley
Doffx: I am making insane extra side cash, but no way I could live off it.
Doffx: The whole pirate, glbse nonsense made me shy away for a while too.
mircea_popescu: i made ~200mn past year.
Doffx: btc?
Doffx: hehe
mircea_popescu: no, dollah
Doffx: Nice.
mircea_popescu: if these numbers are to be believed
kakobrekla: well i made shit compared to that.
mircea_popescu: !ticker these beenz are shit
assbot: How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
mircea_popescu: ^
kakobrekla: ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.0015 = 15 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00189999 = 18.9999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.00194999 = 9.75 BTC [+]
jborkl_: shit, mp you could buy a couple good hookers with that
mircea_popescu: yeah.
pizzaman1337: what do you do with all that anyway?
mircea_popescu: nothing lol
mircea_popescu: problem with being rich. fucking numbers on the screen
Doffx: Buy a beach house in bora bora
mircea_popescu: i don't like the beach
mircea_popescu: or bora bora
Doffx: Buy a ski resort in Alaska
mircea_popescu: meh. i kinda like eastern europe tbh.
mircea_popescu: white skinny chicks.
Doffx: Buy europe
mircea_popescu: at this rate i might buy sweden
pizzaman1337: cyprus!
mircea_popescu: too turkish
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.395 = 3.95 BTC [-]
pizzaman1337: make them use BTC
mircea_popescu: the turks ? they'll break it
pizzaman1337: heh
jborkl_: next thing we will see is photos of mp with the princess of Sweden
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.221 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: is she hawt ?
jborkl_: from what I remember
jborkl_: a couple years ago..
mircea_popescu: http://www.nhlsnipers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/princess-madeleine.jpg
mircea_popescu: "did you say mp?"
jborkl_: lol, you need to bang Maria Sharapove
jborkl_: a
jborkl_: that would be top on my list
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 17 @ 0.4 = 6.8 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ya think ?
taub: okay bitbet like heres the deal
mircea_popescu: i don't go for this famous angle so much
Lyspooner: i bought sweden, sorry
taub: for example that $200 bet, people who bet right at the beginning got 1.2 odds
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner was it wortyh it ?
jborkl_: naw, she just goes after balls with such effort
taub: the people who came in in the end got 1.1
Lyspooner: i don't know, i'm trying to get julian assange sprung so we can go there together
taub: not really fair, but i understand how it can be hard to implement
mircea_popescu: taub yeah i dare go on a limb and say it's not so common this stuff.
mircea_popescu: but im not so sure it's not fair.
OgNasty: mircea: is this month going to be another painful one?
mircea_popescu: that we'll know at the end.
OgNasty: are you bearish on btc?
mircea_popescu: nah
OgNasty: how'd you get put in a position to lose money on an increase?
OgNasty: or was it the wild swing?
mircea_popescu: well yes. who else do you know who can maintain a 500k BTC notional exposure ?
OgNasty: not i. i just wonder what i'm missing between you not being bearish and losing on an increase in price.
OgNasty: perhaps i should read more.
mircea_popescu: i'm passive. do you understnad how mpoe options work ?
OgNasty: yes. i didn't think you were passive.
mircea_popescu: well as a lender of last resort to the bot
mircea_popescu: if the exposure is laerger than what bonds cover
mircea_popescu: i can end up either long or short BTC on that book, depending what people did
OgNasty: i see.
OgNasty: so it's the pop that will make you smile.
mircea_popescu: not necessarily.
mircea_popescu: if i carry a lot (a lot!) of sold calls on the book and price goes up then i can hurt. if it doesn't then mpex makes bank
mircea_popescu: vice-versa with puts.
mircea_popescu: if there's not a lot of exposure i don't really care either way
OgNasty: a scary position to be in if a bigger shark comes along.
OgNasty: your balls must be made of steel.
mircea_popescu: eh, how big is this shark going to be.
OgNasty: i have no idea. i'm always impressed with how the idea is catching on. i heard roseanne barr owns bitcoins now.
jurov: coinbr deposits flushed
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: couldn't you adjust the algorithm to take your exposure into account, raising the cost of calls if you are short tons of calls... seems like a possible way of increasing your value extraction and biasing the pricing to encourage a reduction of your own exposure, while still market making
Bugpowder: if people still want to pay more for calls, you give them the option, but you just charge more for it
pgp: yes
OgNasty: i know i personally would like to be in control of which way my exposure was swayed...
mircea_popescu: i don't understand why people are so aggressed at the notion speculators made money.
mircea_popescu: you know, s.dice loses every fgucking month about 50% of the bets made
Bugpowder: I have NO PROBLEM with the current state
mircea_popescu: why shouldn't option gholders make bank if they;re right ?
pgp: they should
pgp: of course
mircea_popescu: so they have.
OgNasty: +1
jcpham: haters gon' hate
Bugpowder: people just care about you and your feelings
ThickAsThieves: $avg
mpexbot: ThickAsThieves: 207.52
Bugpowder: and don't want to see you hurt
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 235.01000, Best ask: 236.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.99000, Last trade: 235.00300, 24 hour volume: 108838.11631974, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 207.47966
Doffx: I still dont fully understand the options, I had it figured out once, but now its back to being foreign to me.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder i c :)
OgNasty: i am just surprised you would take the passive approach.
mircea_popescu: why ?
OgNasty: because i wouldn't i guess.
mircea_popescu: well ok, but we can't all be boys.
pizzaman1337: I think it's awesome, he's sacrificing for the "greater good" of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: you all daytraders gotta have a socket to plug your daytrading tool into
mod6: :]
OgNasty: no daytrading but trendtrading sure.
pgp: lol
OgNasty: if you think btc will be $1,000, seems odd to not take a side on that.
Lyspooner: he has the correct side on, i'm sure
mod6: i think you might want to read up on how mpex works
MJR_: i think people are basically saying that the market is super biased in one direction...it doesn't take a lot of skill to guess up
mircea_popescu: OgNasty my stake of various btc businesses is easy over 500k btc.
mircea_popescu: how do i not have a stake ?
OgNasty: but i respect that you are more of an architect than a player.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7798 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7798 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7799 = 1.5598 BTC [+]
Lyspooner: dude's got more play in his pinky than an architect has blueprints in his balls
jurov: *reads scrollback* lol chan suddenly full of tight-assed mpoe bondholders
mircea_popescu: lol Lyspooner didn't know you were a fan
Bugpowder: OgNasty: you still got those minirigs on order?
Doffx: I dont think hes sacrificing anything, I think hes making a killing and getting to look like the big boy at the same time.
Doffx: Hes got you all fooled!
Doffx: :)
OgNasty: lots of sc
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C188T] 10 @ 0.25604244 = 2.5604 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Doffx you shall now be exiled out of the happy chan
Lyspooner: who's being fooled?
Doffx: haha
mircea_popescu: into the chan of eternal torment with you.
Lyspooner: bondholders are faggots
Bugpowder: Doffx: It was that way till last month
Doffx: Oh I have been around a long time, mircea_popescu has always been making a killing.
Lyspooner: Nice choice of strikes, mircea_popescu
Doffx: Long time as far as this channel is concerned anyhow.
OgNasty: it's hard not to be making a killing when the price is going up 20% per day.
unbalanced_: Speaking of which... What, no new high yet? It's been like 2 hours... Bitcoin y u no bubble no mo?
Doffx: yeah, but he did it when btc was 4-5$, hes no dummy.
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner yeah it looks like fucking pasta.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 234.53656, Best ask: 235.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.46344, Last trade: 235.00000, 24 hour volume: 108850.07227890, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 207.55397
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00241 = 0.0241 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 19 @ 0.0024 = 0.0456 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i love going by all these abandoned sites with btc frozen prices
mircea_popescu: like... our tea! only 1.5 btc!
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09869 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C230T] 10 @ 0.17622044 = 1.7622 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: http://static.rtbtc.net:8080/img/bitvps_20120509.png
jurov: mircea_popescu: are you okay with me putting the "pls make calls more expesive" convo on btctalk
jurov: and washing my hands over it?
jurov: :D
mircea_popescu: lol. sure
Bugpowder: $40 a pound! http://bitbrew.net/fabulous-french-roast/
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C206T] 20 @ 0.23438962 = 4.6878 BTC
Bugpowder: unbalanced_: we have topped for the day
Bugpowder: need more capital to be flushed in
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C203T] 20 @ 0.24277853 = 4.8556 BTC
Doffx: kakobrekla, the funny part about the bitvps is I helped him clean that add up, he paid me 5 btc and I gave 30$ usd to the artist that did it.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C209T] 20 @ 0.22626342 = 4.5253 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C212T] 20 @ 0.21839445 = 4.3679 BTC
kakobrekla: :))
Doffx: I think I should ask if he would pay me 5 more btc to have it updated.
Doffx: where is rg anyhow
Namworld: rg has vanished
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C215T] 20 @ 0.21077537 = 4.2155 BTC [+]
Namworld: no more rg
mircea_popescu: so weird, he got out of btc like a month before btc kicking ass
mircea_popescu: bad move of all time./
Doffx: Odd for sure.
Namworld: well the profits are in USD anyway...
Namworld: and price in BTC moves according to USD/BTC rate
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C218T] 20 @ 0.20340016 = 4.068 BTC
mircea_popescu: Namworld site aside. i recall him since 2011
Namworld: So doesn't change much
mircea_popescu: he was in here for years
mircea_popescu: 15, 2, 5 etc
mircea_popescu: then a month before 200+ he's goine
Namworld: yeah...
Bugpowder: some people are born lucky
Bugpowder: some... are not
mod6: rg has been active in -otc, he's into ltc now i guess.
Namworld: lol
Namworld: liteVPS
mircea_popescu: if anyone notices rg dissapear from ltc
mircea_popescu: let me know pls.
mod6: (23:08) <+rg> thats wy im here
mod6: (23:08) <+rg> i got $9k in LTC burning a hole in my pocket
mod6: from lastnight
mod6: *shrug*
dub: he was selling btc in there too
dub: he should still have a decent stack, used to be one of the bigger miners
Doffx: You can always count on irc to be logging your every word! :)
mircea_popescu: yea he was eaerly mining it i recall
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.00651 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.00651 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 234.02395, Best ask: 235.89700, Bid-ask spread: 1.87305, Last trade: 235.89700, 24 hour volume: 107728.29325338, 24 hour low: 180.00000, 24 hour high: 240.11100, 24 hour vwap: 207.93552
dub: not that early but he had 60GH of stolen supercomputer (according to him) when most miners where <10GH
jurov: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131270.msg1786288#msg1786288 ... and lol, that C215T is in money already
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.006501 BTC [-]
mod6: i like rg for the most part. and I liked how he was helpful to most newbs in -otc. just too bad that bvps ended the way it did :/
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 4 @ 0.0065 = 0.026 BTC [-]
Namworld: BitVPS didn't end =/
mod6: err, yea sorry Namworld ...
mod6: im refering to its delisting on mpex
Namworld: Just RG and his helpfulness being around
Namworld: oh, that. Yeah
ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 99999999
gribble: There are currently 39007.734 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 502431927.952 USD in total. | Data vintage: 21.4332 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 32135254 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14598746.1341 USD in total. | Data vintage: 25.8648 seconds
ThickAsThieves: Bug are you SURE the rally is over today?
Namworld: http://www.bitvps.com/img/120x90-1.png
Namworld: The probable new banner to replace the 1 BTC banner
ThickAsThieves: ;;market --sell 3500
gribble: A market order to sell 3500 bitcoins right now would net 808104.7174 USD and would take the last price down to 225.9800 USD, resulting in an average price of 230.8871 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 106.8866 seconds
mod6: how's it goin anyway Namworld?
Namworld: BitVPS?
mod6: ya
Namworld: Doing ok...
Namworld: Been a money sinkhole...
Namworld: xD
Namworld: Shouldn't be for much longer tho
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C188T] 25 @ 0.264 = 6.6 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: ThickAsThieves: Not sure about anything... but the oscillation is damping down. bid volume is down. I think we need another bolus of wires to push it... Maybe when Japan gets up.
unbalanced_: Or China
Bugpowder: I'm assuming Japan is more relevant due to the exchange being located there, not sure how the deposit flushing works at gox.
unbalanced_: ah jes
mod6: The ToS says I can't run a miner, which makes sense. Wallet hosting is ok though?
ThickAsThieves: it does look like about 3000 new coins for sale
unbalanced_: I saw talk on the wall watcher thread about China on Sunday
Namworld: mod6: yeah
mod6: ok thanks!
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C260T] 500 @ 0.12286079 = 61.4304 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ;;calc 260/(1-0.12286079)
gribble: 296.418170612
Namworld: anyone wants some C200?
Bugpowder: I'll sell some 137s
Bugpowder: or 104s
Bugpowder: at midmarket
ThickAsThieves: list em
ThickAsThieves: and we'll see
Bugpowder: if anyone is interested
Namworld: ok well I'm out
Doffx: Ugg, just read a site aout options that finally made sense to me.
Doffx: As usual I was over complicating the why.