assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.28800001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.288 = 2.304 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.285 = 2.85 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.284 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.28 = 2.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.278 = 2.224 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.278 = 0.556 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.276666 = 0.5533 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 34 @ 0.275 = 9.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 24 @ 0.275 = 6.6 BTC [-]
MJR_: its his tv personality that bothers me...he appears to be on meth...kinda disheveled
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00070705 = 0.9192 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7585 @ 0.00070706 = 5.3631 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6215 @ 0.00070719 = 4.3952 BTC [+]
MJR_: this is kinda great on one level
MJR_: ;;calc 0.00322346975733*12
MJR_: almost 4 percent using one of the worst months as the test case
MJR_: and in reference to monetarist...exactly
MJR_: yes, but hopefully i can scoop up a big chunk of the float before they do
mircea_popescu: the ability to make bad deals is what teaches people to stick to good ones.
MJR_: i am only annoyed from a "show the best performance" perspective
MJR_: i am very happy from a "get the best investment" perspective
mircea_popescu: a lot of newbs playing around introduce distortion in the marketplace.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0033333 = 3.3333 BTC [+]
MJR_: i mean, this IS on 13% of the shares...and only on the small percentage of which are traded
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.276 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 28 @ 0.275 = 7.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.309 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27070001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2707 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.425 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.62742, Best ask: 143.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.37258, Last trade: 142.62742, 24 hour volume: 69848.45947306, 24 hour low: 130.24303, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 138.48970
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2999 BTC [+]
pgp: rise in btcusd is nice 'n all, but the mad rush in by noobs does have its downsides...
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 210 @ 0.0032 = 0.672 BTC [-]
jurov: topace|2: trying to register on havelock, no mail comes, nothing in spam folder either
pizzaman1337: "He does not understand these words, as is the case with all the words he uses." < best line
mircea_popescu: yeah, it's always funny when people resort to definitions in an argument with the avg redditor.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.305 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: friend calls you on the phone, "hey, i'm stranded at the airport" "well... get in your car and here's driving directions"
mircea_popescu: that's why he's calling you. cause he has a car at the airport.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 37 @ 0.00349 = 0.1291 BTC [+]
pgp: seriously, though, only bad things happen to noobs and bad things can happen easily in bitcoins if you don't know what you're doing...
pgp: combustible combination...
mircea_popescu: i think we'll have to slowly change the sales pitch on bitcoin from
pgp: i just hope that bitcoin public image doesn't get too bruised getting through this growth spurt
pgp: then more will want in!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29999999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000656 = 0.0013 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: [at the time in the past we're discussing, this other event had already definitely happened in the past], how do you say that
pgp: mjr and I are FLOODED with requests from our collegues, friends, and drinking buddies to buy bitcoins FOR them...
pgp: I suppose that's safer then them doing it themselves - lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3235 @ 0.00070719 = 2.2878 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13465 @ 0.00070873 = 9.543 BTC [+]
pgp: would that we would have?
benkay: mircea_popescu: i advocate that perspective daily
benkay: bitcoins are a sophisticated financial instrument
mircea_popescu: pgp turns out would is auxiliary there, not personal, so it was correct
benkay: i say: "you know how your beloved government doesn't let you invest in profitable things? bitcoins are exactly the kind of thing you're not supposed to invest in."
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.80001, Best ask: 143.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.69998, Last trade: 143.77119, 24 hour volume: 69859.70987158, 24 hour low: 130.24303, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 138.54781
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1790 @ 0.0032 = 5.728 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i dunno why people hate on gmo food. these grapes are the size of prunes, taste like grape juice and have no seeds at all.
mircea_popescu: looking forward to the woman made out of eyes, tits and ankles only.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you said in your article "The situation in the market was becoming macroeconomically concerning, in the following sense : major holders were done selling, the vast majority of trading action consisting of trades among newcomers brought in by the recent significant press exposure" it seems noobs were about to cause a bubble and if left "unkempt" the herd mentality could cause catostrophic issues to
mircea_popescu: all the "it's going to 500" talk was putting us on the spot
mircea_popescu: correction without collapse => show of strength. no bubble can do that
burnside: the problem with gmo's is half the work they do is to make 'em pesticide/herbacide resistant.
pgp: sometimes you have to go down to go up...
burnside: they do that so they can slather them with pesticides and herbicides
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00070508 = 0.9166 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00070507 = 2.4325 BTC [-]
burnside: sometimes I process things a lil slow
burnside: you always plug 'em in in the middle of the night!
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: yes which is why as youve stated the presence of big players (as yourself) keeps the economy from having a complete collapse. i pose a scenario where the noobs become educated. what occurs when the economy is composed of more competency?
burnside: yeah, I'd be worried about anyplace you have a lot of btc that doesn't have a manual withdrawal process honestly.
benkay: do y'all see any use in the btc economy for entities that hold slices of private keys for users?
benkay: aka distributed wallet backup?
burnside: not sure what'cha mean. (286 remember.)
mircea_popescu: suppose this russian guy has a wife which wife has a sister.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27000002 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27 BTC [-]
pgp: multi-sig has many interesting applications as well
benkay: because nadja and tanja have a tendency to bitch out and cannot be depended on for professional service, other than the oral kind.
benkay: secret sharing allows one to reconstruct without all shared slices, though
benkay: allowing one to leave slices with trusted relatives in addition to untrusted banks around the world
mircea_popescu: why use a publicly known and thus attackable holder of shards.
benkay: why not use 10 publicly known holders and 10 private?
benkay: i'm looking at en-robust-ifying the thing
mircea_popescu: why not put a piece of paper in a bank locked chest say
mircea_popescu: the fact that we know you hold shards adds a risk to you as a shard holder.
benkay: sure, but shard holder ameliorates that risk by charging a fee for a useful service. some fraction of which fee should go to ops to blah blah blah
pgp: watch - tradtional accounting and auditing firms are going to get involved in the bitcoin security game - and insuring deposits while they're at it...
benkay: the ecosystem needs auditors and accountants.
benkay: witness ALL THE THINGS.
benkay: smickles should really get on that.
pgp: already making inroads...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.25200001 BTC [-]
benkay: in addition to keysharding, i want to see merchant receipt/contract tracking as well
pgp: a practice of requiring 2/3 key to unlock an address for owner, auditor, lawyer (in case owner dies) seems like a good start
benkay: otc, but for merchants, and prettier.
pgp: you can put whatever text you want into a txn...
benkay: why put it in the blockchain
benkay: when you can use the underlying crypto?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.25200001 BTC [-]
benkay: the thing would be relatively simple to implement
benkay: big text box for receipts/contracts
benkay: track all signing entities
benkay: kinda buy into claim resolution, which is not a scalable thing
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the asics have little to do with tx processing. they just hash.
jborkl: I got my stratum servers running today
mircea_popescu: "a well-known Silicon Valley socialite and entrepreneur"
mircea_popescu: run a node, have it well connected, you'll be instamempooled.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.9 = 19 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.25100001 BTC [-]
benkay: does multibit function as a node?
ThickAsThieves: so how do i get my tx from outside services to go faster
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.25200001 BTC [+]
benkay: ha you can't do that thickasthieves
benkay: you have to be broadcasting your own txns
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yes unless you're on a shitty connection or something
benkay: unless you can get them to send the tx to you
kakobrekla: broadcasting is the smaller part of the transactio
mircea_popescu: nah this doesn't work on the otghers. wors on your own
mircea_popescu: but with people turning it off we;'re already under the red.
jborkl: I am setting up 2 more nodes
mircea_popescu: jborkl if you have the option, set them up in like mongolia and shit
jborkl: I have 15 at least commercial internet connections across many different ip ranges
Ukto: ThickAsThieves: also, weex broadcasts txns to over 500 nodes :)
mircea_popescu: seems atm 90%+ of nodes are on the euro fiberring, on the sf-la line and on the ny-boston line
Ukto: including the major pools
jborkl: where I am - there are not any for 200 300 miles
Ukto: mircea_popescu: the issue is that none of the pools currently prioritize by tx fee rate
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.25200001 = 0.504 BTC [+]
Ukto: they just have a hard limit on how many txn's can be included per block
Ukto: so when things like sdice are being super popular etc
Ukto: it creates a backlog of txn processing
assbot: [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.90000000 / 1.9085 / 1.93000000 (16 shares, 30.53600000 BTC), 7D: 1.87000000 / 1.97486053 / 2.08000000 (114 shares, 225.13409996 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.81479725 / 2.08000000 (730 shares, 1324.80199240 BTC)
Ukto: i know 4 major pools that are first come first serve
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 36 @ 0.25200001 = 9.072 BTC [+]
Ukto: I never said it was smart
Ukto: or with the original bitcoin intentions
Ukto: Luke-Jr even completely blocks sdice txns (last i checked)
Ukto: leaving a larger backlog for those to be processed
Ukto: but while he blocks sdice, it allows other txns to get processed at least
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.43999999 = 7.04 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: whether he puts in 500 txs including sdice or excluding s dice
mircea_popescu: it makes no diff, there's always 500 non sdice txns in the pool
Ukto: i didnt say he was helping or hurting
Ukto: i think him doing it helps non sdice txns get through
Ukto: (when he finds a block)
Ukto: but causes the delay later for the next pool
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2799999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.28 BTC [+]
Ukto: sdice pays higher than default txs
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin is way less cool if its slower than a credit card
mircea_popescu: the fact is tho, i set mpex to pay 0.001. since then i have measured, and i had next-block inclusion for all payments
Ukto: so for the pools that prioritize based on tx fee, unless you specifically tell your client ot pay a higher tx fee than sdice (whatever it might adjust to) you will not get ahead of them
mircea_popescu: as far as i can tell, fee + well connected node -> next block guaranteed.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.179 = 2.358 BTC [-]
Ukto: ThickAsThieves: bitcoin has always been slower than credit card
Ukto: due to the confirms
Ukto: mircea_popescu: based on what you said, pools would be idiots to not include sorted by fee.
ThickAsThieves: the shit hanging off of every facet of the dev and tx side of btc boggles my mind
mircea_popescu: well, it's just my experience, but it's been pretty consistent.
Ukto: 0.0012 btc is not the default txn fee
Ukto: you have to make sure to pay higher
mircea_popescu: maybe i am loved by pools and they prioritise me otherwise ? (seems improbable)
Ukto: i am basing it off of what you said atm :)
Ukto: it also depends on time of day
Ukto: and how many txns are being added to the network
Ukto: sometimes its fine, othertimse a giant backlog is created
mircea_popescu: as far as i can see the backlog has been 5 to 10k txns for the past... 2 months ?
ThickAsThieves: first , the client sux, this causes people to not run nodes, then pools dont prioritize by what pays most, then even for those that do, we have services dealing in lots of btc that dont include fees at all
gribble: Error: "unconfirmed" is not a valid command.
Ukto: so if your saying lower priced tx fees for your transfers are going through before highier pricesed sdice txns, then your thought that pools sort by tx fee is out the window, right?
Ukto: or are you purposefully setting higher tx fees?
mircea_popescu: Ukto i am setting .1, and that s.dice seems to have made it in fast no ?
jborkl: already one node halfway- 10 minutes
Ukto: when your limiting txns to say 500 when generating a block
Ukto: and esp if you are sorting by fee
Ukto: unless you pay a highre fee than sdice's already higher than default fee
Ukto: you wont be included
Ukto: for at least another 1~2 blocks
jborkl: it is only 1 line in the .conf file to change the fee structure
Ukto: mircea_popescu: no idea. blockchain.info is up to date
ThickAsThieves: if i'm trying to send 20btc quickly, in order to profit 10%, i dont care about paying even a .1btc fee
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.44 = 4.4 BTC [+]
Ukto: jborkl: yes, but as as service, it's a huge pain to constantly change that one line and restart
Ukto: the issue isnt the fee itself
Ukto: as I stated, very few high block pools sort by tx fee
jborkl: I keep mine very low, just because
Ukto: during slow times, i have tested sending tx with a 0.1btc fee
Ukto: and it still took 3 hours
Ukto: same as the 0 fee tx
Ukto: the issue is that bitcoin needs to be able handle larger amounts of txns
Ukto: if ti continues to grow
Ukto: and this is not corrected, then bitcoin will die.
Ukto: this was teh cause of the recent fork
Ukto: pools were told to increase the size of txn announcements
Ukto: so what did some do? set ungodly highly max's
Ukto: this conflicted with with a limitation in 0.8
Ukto: which caused a fork
jborkl: hmm, I wonder if we addnode eachother with a fee structure we like - we will broadcast and get included faster- therefore prioritizing out transactions
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves post in mpoe's devs are idiots thread lol
Ukto: mircea_popescu: all pools did not set 1mb max txn lists
Ukto: thats what caused the fork
Ukto: along with a the max set to 0.8
Ukto: the point was to increase the tx load. not limit them
Ukto: thats why there is the big update deadline
Ukto: btw, look at the blockchain unconfirmed list
Ukto: you will see the number dropped from 800+
thestringpuller: at some point you WILL have to pay miner fees to get confirmed?
Ukto: as a block just went out
Ukto: only taking abotu 200~300 txns with it
Ukto: and if you look at that last block
Ukto: youw ill see they are mostly in order
Ukto: not higher paid fees
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla what do yo usay to an idea of giving less weight to small bets on bitbet ?
Ukto: ThickAsThieves: thats another discussion for another day. :)
Ukto: back to coding for me :)
Ukto: but yes, it pisses me off too.
mircea_popescu: doesn't that reflect moreover how the miner sorted them ?
Ukto: how the pool sorted them
ThickAsThieves: didnt mean to rage at you directly, but if including fees helps at all, i'd appreciate it
Ukto: yes, which goes back to my point
Ukto: that most of the pools are not sorting by txfee
jborkl: you can watch your bitcoind reject tranactions
mircea_popescu: but listen, just because they sorted it thart way in the getwork or w/e
mircea_popescu: doesn't mean that it actually reflects the selection process
Ukto: i was just looking at a txn witha higher fee
jborkl: no, t takes them as tit receives them and stomps them
mircea_popescu: if i pick girls by their brasize i will still seat them at the table by height
Ukto: and was not included in the block
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu you want even more cofulzed ppl ? :)
Ukto: so obviously, it wasnt sorted by higher txn fee
jurov: Ukto, iirc it's not completely FCFS
Ukto: jurov: depends on teh pool
mircea_popescu: do you know the sort of shit that happens when i have to pay out 500 BTC ?
Ukto: each do it their diff ways
jurov: miners have by default some space reserved to no-fee txs
Ukto: mircea_popescu: keep in mind, I host and help with ozcoin :)
kakobrekla: ya well ppl will still bet dust even with 90%
Ukto: and i work with alot of other pool operators due to hashpower
jurov: and txfee can be changed on the fly, no need to restart
jurov: you didn't knew about bitcoind settxfee?
Ukto: jurov: yes, but not ona per-send unless you do a custom raw tx
Ukto: jurov: sending rpc calls to bitcoind to constantly try to change the txn fee per client send leaves bad things to possibly happen
Ukto: its not like an sql transaction
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu i could do it so there is no bet accepted if its not funded by at least N (can come in several txes or w/e)
Ukto: i dont know how many user syou have constatnly withdrawing, but I tend to get a few about the same time every few days
Ukto: usually because something is happening in the world
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.9 = 3.8 BTC [-]
Ukto: but the method for handling this, and letting users throw whatever amoutn they want at a tx fee is coming with the new weex relesae
Ukto: then they can all donate to minors, just to find out it wont help
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.44 = 3.96 BTC [+]
Ukto: "minors" yes, bad joke :)
benkay: this is not the vim window...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.28099999 = 0.843 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.281 = 4.215 BTC [+]
jurov: well, i do have problems with coinbr deposits sitting there for hours
jurov: withdrawals waiting are rare
jurov: cuz i have node running all the time with 90+ connections
ThickAsThieves: btw the withdrawal that triggered me ranting, ended up clearing in 15min...
jurov: plus, adding a fee did help a bit
pgp: it all has to do with nodes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.281 = 1.405 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 25 @ 0.00301 = 0.0753 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [-]
pgp: if you're "well connected" so to speak, you're txn will get picked up quickly, irrespective of fee
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.281 BTC [+]
pgp: nice to see a plus-tick on SDICE
gribble: There are currently 11628.06 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 1718711.96735 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0020 seconds
gribble: There are currently 31145458 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11787480.3755 USD in total. | Data vintage: 25.0973 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.28199999 = 0.564 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.43999999 = 2.64 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.90000000 / 1.90755556 / 1.93000000 (18 shares, 34.33600000 BTC), 7D: 1.87000000 / 1.97356983 / 2.08000000 (116 shares, 228.93409996 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.81581095 / 2.08000000 (730 shares, 1325.54199220 BTC)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.778 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.43999999 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.282 = 0.564 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.282 = 1.41 BTC [+]
benkay: if you're well connected, you generally don't have to suffer the same problems that normo's do anyways, pgp ;)
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0026 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 510 @ 0.0025 = 1.275 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 496 @ 0.002011 = 0.9975 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.003355 = 0.0268 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.778 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 19 @ 0.425 = 8.075 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00070053 = 7.1804 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6035 @ 0.00070873 = 4.2772 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3915 @ 0.00071 = 2.7797 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.282 = 1.692 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1029 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1029 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.262 = 0.786 BTC [-]
luke-jr_: Ukto: AFAIK, every pool prioitizes by fee/KB
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.282 = 1.128 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.00286307 = 8.3029 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.90000000 / 1.90755556 / 1.93000000 (18 shares, 34.33600000 BTC), 7D: 1.87000000 / 1.97494825 / 2.08000000 (114 shares, 225.14409996 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.82103054 / 2.08000000 (720 shares, 1311.14199220 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00286307 / 0.00321072 / 0.00333333 (21008 shares, 67.45 BTC), 7D: 0.00286307 / 0.00324298 / 0.00439992 (541587 shares, 1,756.36 BTC), 30D: 0.00286307 / 0.00372327 / 0.006 (1707706 shares, 6,358.26 BTC)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.778 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 14 @ 0.00303497 = 0.0425 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.778 = 2.334 BTC [-]
joeykrim: mircea_popescu, sorry, im around now
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.29339, Best ask: 142.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.70661, Last trade: 142.00000, 24 hour volume: 69571.46909424, 24 hour low: 130.41000, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 139.47741
gribble: MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
Diablo-D3: OFF TO SEE THE WIZARD, THE WONDERFUL WIZARD OF CHACHUNG
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 93.3570601 / 108.2470225 / 135.80742037 (19613 shares, 8,037.73 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Uglux: Plan Ƀ, sounds good
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2645 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.264 = 6.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.2636 = 7.908 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.26301 = 2.1041 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.2621 = 1.0484 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.2601 = 2.3409 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2600002 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.26000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.25200001 = 0.504 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.251 = 3.765 BTC [-]
pigeons: ill take next month's dividend for 0025
kakobrekla: hm, for march, bbet is over half of sdice per share
kakobrekla: we are over half of march div right now for april if i see this correctly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3067 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3067 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 325 @ 0.00303497 = 0.9864 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.30679999 = 0.6136 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3067 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.439 = 3.073 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.004 = 0.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 158 @ 0.0039 = 0.6162 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3000 @ 0.00385 = 11.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 250 @ 0.0038 = 0.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 204 @ 0.0037 = 0.7548 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.306788 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3800 @ 0.00303497 = 11.5329 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 61 @ 0.00303497 = 0.1851 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.777 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.778 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.306788 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.39 = 2.34 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.30688 = 3.0688 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 109 @ 0.01 = 1.09 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 23 @ 0.778 = 17.894 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.779 = 3.116 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.00001, Best ask: 141.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.89998, Last trade: 141.00001, 24 hour volume: 68994.82037063, 24 hour low: 131.12000, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 139.64835
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 85 @ 0.0028 = 0.238 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 300 @ 0.0026 = 0.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.0021 = 0.042 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 850 @ 0.002 = 1.7 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: now he announces some news and the s.dice price adjust accordingly
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.003354 = 0.0503 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 580 @ 0.00191 = 1.1078 BTC [-]
bgupta: THere is a reason they say "the gold standard" and not the "silver" "nickel" "copper" or "tin" standard.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00439 BTC [+]
dub: ppcoin is doing pretty well
dub: 04/06/13 02:14:07 5100.00000000 0.00510000 26.01000000
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.899 = 3.798 BTC [-]
toffoo: I bought my first ones two days ago,
toffoo: "always better to be lucky than smart" i say
dub: I mined 40k in the first 12 hours
toffoo: yup seems like these might be the next thing to gain some traction,
dub: cost $10 in power oslt
toffoo: BTC-e started trading now like a few hours ago
dub: this is why we mine all the chains
toffoo: what did you use to mine them?
toffoo: can cgminer do ppcoin /w gpu?
dub: yeah its not different to btc
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 117 @ 0.01 = 1.17 BTC [+]
toffoo: cool thnx .. I may give that a try, with my <cough> .. nVidia
toffoo: so in theory someone could hook up an Avalon and mine the crap outta these ppcoins
toffoo: hmm..maybe a bit early to be buying in then
dub: though it doesnt work with stratum yet
dub: yeah would be a bit dumb not to
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P200T] 1300 @ 0.62136625 = 807.7761 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P200T] 3000 @ 0.62136625 = 1864.0988 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P200T] 400 @ 0.62136625 = 248.5465 BTC [-]
jcpham: i welcome our new overlords
copumpkin: people bitching about not being able to short
jcpham: my IT department told me not to touch the bitcoins
jcpham: you must not be watching the tv news
copumpkin: well, I lent my TV to a friend several years ago because I never watched it
jcpham: sorry i'm commenting on stupid bitcoin press
jcpham: some guy said something cnbc the other day about his it department wouldn't go near bitcoin
copumpkin: I could see compliance departments having a problem with it, in some cases
copumpkin: but most companies don't even have that
jcpham: you need to see the videa and see how he says it
jcpham: the money shot so to speak
locksley: mircea_popescu: is the registration fee for mpex.co still 30BTC? ...given the recent surge in BTC/USD prices
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 4 @ 0.00439 = 0.0176 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 4 @ 0.0044 = 0.0176 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7686 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7685 = 3.074 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P140T] 5 @ 0.28572235 = 1.4286 BTC [-]
ChaangNoi: lol at all the alt coins trading on btc-e for crazy prices...
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P095T] 10 @ 0.06811293 = 0.6811 BTC
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 5 @ 0.1722 = 0.861 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7789 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7733 @ 0.000714 = 5.5214 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.29999 = 2.9999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1001 = 0.2002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.003354 = 0.1677 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7686 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7685 = 3.8425 BTC [-]
taub: is mtgox losing volume already?
taub: btce and btc24 having lots of trades in the feed compared to mtgox
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.28210001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.28200001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.095 = 1.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.1001 = 0.6006 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-]
Bowjob: that was some nice viet food
Bowjob: damn i love vancouver. diverse food
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.00000, Best ask: 142.24998, Bid-ask spread: 0.24998, Last trade: 142.50000, 24 hour volume: 61098.98505712, 24 hour low: 135.12000, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 140.58777
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.304 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.305 = 0.915 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.305 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.3055 = 0.9165 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3055 BTC [+]
toffoo: mircea_popescu have you or your minions investigated at all "Bitcoin Rain" ?
toffoo: seems like this Leandro guy was like the combined zhoutong + pirateat40 of Brazil,
toffoo: and apparently getting away with it,
toffoo: because the Brazilians are like begging for him back
toffoo: the situation probably hasn't gotten the attention it deserves because of the portuguese factor,
toffoo: but smells like he should earn a prominent position on your scam list sometime soon
mircea_popescu: the brazillians haven't bothered to join #bitcoin-assets.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.62001, Best ask: 142.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.37999, Last trade: 142.00000, 24 hour volume: 59239.00956523, 24 hour low: 135.12000, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 140.65500
jurov: i'm inclined to call it "discordia currency tho
mircea_popescu: Title : {A fear} + {An assumption} = {An inconsistent definition}
mircea_popescu: Body : {Misreference} {Misinterpretation of fact} {Misquote} {Personal Bias} {Daydreaming} {Cat pic}
jurov: oook. this was just an innocent proposal, tho
jurov: oh, what happened?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.43 = 0.86 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.406 = 0.812 BTC [-]
jurov: Anyone working in the press is a professional and intellectual failure. << yup, this begins well
jurov: (latest trilema article)
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.15789 BTC [+]
gribble: Current Blocks: 229941 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1898 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9247456.62683 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.51944
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.179 = 2.358 BTC [-]
prof7bit: bitbet could need a help page. there is no explanation how it works, what the numbers mean, what the small graph below each bet means, how to calculate my possible win, etc.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.18 = 2.36 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00329 = 0.0494 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00329 = 0.0099 BTC [-]
prof7bit: does anybody here know how it works?
prof7bit: why is the "faq" link white text on white background? No wonder I couldn't find it.
jurov: in ff it shows fine on black background
jurov: prolly tell kakobrekla to fix
prof7bit: i'm using a webkit based browser
jurov: ahh ic now. in konqueror+webkit the FAQ gets flushed down, onto white background
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000656 BTC [+]
prof7bit: this calculation method is very intransparent and convoluted, why not choose a simpler and more intuitive calculation?
jurov: what is intransparent and convoluted?
jurov: for me it feels right. just have to remind myself to always check the weight
jurov: if it's too low, abstain form betting
prof7bit: how is the weight calculated, why does this factor even exist, why not just calculate the ratio of total winning side / total losing side?
mircea_popescu: but those that do have it to reflect the fact that it's more risk to claim a girl is pregnant in her first week than in her last.
jurov: weight goes down linearly in time
prof7bit: what is the maximum weight and when is it consdered "low", why not ue a percenage instead of 8 digit numbers
mircea_popescu: do you specifically feel the need to ask that question ?!
anarchy5: support levels are becoming huge
gribble: There are currently 31145510 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12066597.028 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0097 seconds
gribble: There are currently 51815.043 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 6262852.41742 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0059 seconds
bitesak: there is 500K more in bids than yesterday for ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 31144153 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12025871.6491 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0100 seconds
ChaangNoi: seems shockingly quite in here, wanted to makesure it still worked:)
ChaangNoi: 12 million bids, thats is nice to see
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 169 @ 0.2 = 33.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00286307 / 0.00315869 / 0.00333333 (21469 shares, 67.81 BTC), 7D: 0.00286307 / 0.00324138 / 0.00439992 (545787 shares, 1,769.11 BTC), 30D: 0.00286307 / 0.00365017 / 0.006 (1621037 shares, 5,917.07 BTC)
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00447 = 0.447 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.71054, Best ask: 141.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18946, Last trade: 141.71052, 24 hour volume: 54153.97471258, 24 hour low: 135.12000, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 141.09054
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.17399 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 5 @ 0.174 = 0.87 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.00329 = 0.023 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.01301 = 0.1171 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.013 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.012 = 0.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.003353 BTC [+]
bowjob: the rape adria richards contest should be over now
bowjob: ltc dropping like a bitch
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00244 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00245 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.0025 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00071399 = 0.9282 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.000714 = 6.1761 BTC [+]
jurov: Still no love for s.dice, what happened?
jurov: people who did after-dividend shopping prolly left...
gribble: There are currently 31749042 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11902783.3381 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0101 seconds
gribble: There are currently 10941.045 bitcoins offered at or under 149.94 USD, worth 1604809.16098 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.5561 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.7685 = 4.611 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 29384.845 bitcoins offered at or under 198.0 USD, worth 4757177.58812 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0027 seconds
gribble: There are currently 51818.679 bitcoins demanded at or over 98.0 USD, worth 6227000.30109 USD in total. | Data vintage: 45.8592 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00070759 = 2.1228 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.261 = 2.349 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.003353 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2605 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.2601 = 7.803 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00301 = 0.0903 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 25 @ 0.003 = 0.075 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 11 @ 0.00292 = 0.0321 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00291 = 0.0146 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 11 @ 0.0029 = 0.0319 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.26001 = 5.2002 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2600001 = 0.52 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.25231 = 2.2708 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 57 @ 0.00274 = 0.1562 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00273 = 0.0082 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00271 = 0.0054 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00268 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: I am willing to buy S.DICE if anyone wants to well cheap? ;)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.765 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: well nothing is forever so anything that is alive is dying all the time
gribble: namworld was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 14 hours, 6 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <Namworld> lag on the rise... and almost no trading...
KRS1: its just going down, it will come back up
DeaDTerra: People do not seem to understand probability and statistics
DeaDTerra: S.DICE are having a really bad month in terms of luck but not that bad month in terms of volume
DeaDTerra: if the volume would be super bad you might be able to justify selling but selling because S.DICE is unlucky and hence had a bad dividend is just a poor decision
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7601 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.265 = 7.95 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: eh I am happy to keep the shares ;)
DeaDTerra: I got a nice dividend and I can just wait until S.DICE has good luck again
error4733: they sold because of elasticity of s.dice price vs BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.265 = 4.77 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: but S.DICE is quite resiliant to the BTC price increase
DeaDTerra: the volume has not dropped by 11 times
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.265 = 5.3 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: which suggest that it's still a good investment if you believe in a long term increase in the BTC price
error4733: beacause ppl play like its 20$ again
ThickAsThieves: plus sdice, AM, and bitbet are like the only decent Btc assets
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.265 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: WTS G.MPOE,G.BBET,BTCQuick, G.ASICMINER-PT, WTB G.SDICE pm me with offers :)
DeaDTerra: It's funny how half a year ago people in this channel lauged at me and called me a scammer for helping AM IPO :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.265 = 1.325 BTC [+]
error4733: time will say, i kept some S.dice 4 glory but if every morning i'm happy with btc rally but i'm cry when i look to S.dice it's not good
jurov: error4733 in 2 weeks maybe you'll cry you sold it,dunno
DeaDTerra: Well, I for one think that S.DICE is a good investment as the volume doesn't follow the BTC price perfectly but it does it well enough to protect okay against a BTC price fall but not good enough to totally crash when the BTC price spikes.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00249 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: I had 1000 shares, I sold them for 0.126...
jurov: Anyway it's not a good practice to check portfolio every day.
DeaDTerra: The only once that profit from active trading (in long term) is your broker/exchange
kakobrekla: DeaDTerra they still do, and for dealing with AA, usagi etc too
error4733: agree, but big mistake as a news noob i put 80% of my btc in S.dice
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 27 @ 0.265 = 7.155 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: 16:14.50 ( DeaDTerra ) It's funny how half a year ago people in this channel lauged at me and called me a scammer for helping AM IPO :)
DeaDTerra: If you try to promote things some will turn out bad some will turn out well
DeaDTerra: I am not saying I have a perfect record, but I am not a scammer
DeaDTerra: I have learnt that trusting people in the bitcoin forum is naive and doesn't work out
jurov: So, i succeeded to register at havelock and snatch some sdice...but i don't see function to transfer *to* mpex...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i think jurov just self smarted himlsef
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00070759 = 0.2123 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4375 BTC [+]
jurov: Okay. So I'll transfer your sdice from havelock to mpex for 0.1btc only.
jurov: Ofc, must research if if allows transfer between users.
pigeons: that sounds good jurov, i'll get in touch later probably
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.265 = 1.325 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: That logic... If I know more things my brain will use more oxygen and hence there's a bigger change I will die from a heart attack?
kakobrekla: perhaps thats why hes doing the show from jail
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.265 = 3.975 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00271 = 0.0813 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.265 = 0.795 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00249 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.253 = 2.024 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.769 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2523 = 0.7569 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.778 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.253 = 1.012 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00276111 = 1.1044 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 31748275 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11855944.8587 USD in total. | Data vintage: 76.1617 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.11000, Best ask: 142.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49000, Last trade: 142.98000, 24 hour volume: 50668.79562235, 24 hour low: 136.00000, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 141.56102
gribble: There are currently 11439.837 bitcoins demanded at or over 135.0 USD, worth 1571682.99787 USD in total. | Data vintage: 99.8146 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.779 = 2.337 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 7253.3583 bitcoins offered at or under 148.9 USD, worth 1056222.62948 USD in total. | Data vintage: 119.2631 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00995 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1035 = 0.207 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 35 @ 0.1039 = 3.6365 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4375 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 11 @ 0.105999 = 1.166 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7788 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C119T] 5 @ 0.27839364 = 1.392 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C122T] 5 @ 0.28150864 = 1.4075 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7788 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.779 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.20300, Best ask: 143.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04700, Last trade: 143.25000, 24 hour volume: 47264.29232165, 24 hour low: 138.02000, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 142.02168
gribble: MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00070759 = 1.5213 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7799 = 1.5598 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000655 = 0.0013 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 11 @ 0.000601 = 0.0066 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0037 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2022 @ 0.003333 = 6.7393 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.002755 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0027 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0027 = 0.0135 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 29 @ 0.0037 = 0.1073 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.0037 = 0.037 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.003601 = 0.0072 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00357 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.11968, Best ask: 143.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08032, Last trade: 143.20000, 24 hour volume: 43220.78928430, 24 hour low: 139.00000, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 142.25566
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7799 = 2.3397 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7799 = 3.8995 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00276111 / 0.00311367 / 0.0033333 (17066 shares, 53.14 BTC), 7D: 0.00276111 / 0.00323887 / 0.00439992 (547459 shares, 1,773.15 BTC), 30D: 0.00276111 / 0.00364928 / 0.006 (1624459 shares, 5,928.11 BTC)
Namworld: Hmm, I'm surprised about those stats. There's no source included for them sadly.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00070085 = 0.4906 BTC [-]
deadweasel: i know, at least they get us high for free.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 0.7715 = 16.973 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7711 BTC [-]
TomServo: odd, blockexplorer already shows 11mn
kakobrekla: >. I have no qualms about what EskimoBob did so long as he pays for it, one way or another. And a 10% return in a little over a month is fine with me. I've evaluated his business plan and I rather like the little setup he has going. It works like this. Either he makes me rich, or he turns out to be a scammer and I get the last laugh. I could care less either way.
kakobrekla: also this >EskimoBob is receiving regular scheduled distributions on his investment along with all my other former shareholders. Further, I own some shares of ART. In short, EskimoBob works for me now, Augustocroppo, and in my books that's the way it should be.
mircea_popescu: BTC has gone from $10 to $100, and ART lost 98.41% of it's investor's money. To point out the obvious, the expected loss was 90%, not 98.41%. Losing that extra 8.41% is much, much larger than it seems. Because accounting for the fluctuation in currency prices, ART went on to lose 84.1% of it's value.
mircea_popescu: Please explain how you lost 84.1% of your investor's money, or (at current exchange prices) over $60,000.
thestringpuller: "But that is water under the bridge now. EskimoBob is receiving regular scheduled distributions on his investment along with all my other former shareholders." <- is a lie
jurov: i think hiring psy would be sufficient
thestringpuller: the payments were not regular and have ceased without any warning or explanation except when probed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.26 = 0.78 BTC [+]
jurov: ..er..that's korea. nvm.
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> the payments were not regular and have ceased without any warning or explanation except when probed << sorta like tradehill ?
kakobrekla: no that was the old company you silly!
mircea_popescu: no they didn't vanish, bitcoin scamdation people are trying to push kenna's new scam
KRS1: there will be a gox announcement about alternative currencies next week?
jurov: maybe they clearly think their multicurrency multiorder book isn't laggy enough
gribble: MtGox lag is 1.2938 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00259276071389 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Earth to Moon (0.00257 AU).
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla because they seem to have abandoned the promotion effort.
kakobrekla: its gonna be all over once i manage to slam btc/usd in mt4 anyway.
jurov: really, i wouldn't put it past them trying to solve their problems
jurov: by throwing in another virtual currency on bitcoin side
jurov: like euro/jpy is on usd side
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.26 = 0.78 BTC [+]
jurov: thereby their monstrous order book code achieving sentience
jurov: then we're lost. unless we can release mpex code to slay it.
mircea_popescu: link you as soon as it's there, i think you'll appreciate.
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 3 hours, 29 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00427 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00428 = 0.0086 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 204 @ 0.0032 = 0.6528 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.004 = 0.008 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00321 = 3.21 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00343 BTC [-]
guruvan: looks like they will add NMC & LTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3434 @ 0.003333 = 11.4455 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: also I really like this quote: "Nobody respects actors. Nobody. Everybody respects producers. Everybody. Including the actors. Starting with the actors." since being on set I have found this to be incredibly true.
thestringpuller: I'm moving to romania, that's where all the cool people live.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.00992 = 0.1488 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 11 @ 0.009911 = 0.109 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 100 @ 0.15271 = 15.271 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.106 = 0.212 BTC [+]
bowjob: so your rape contest got some pretty decent submissions
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu I've been on the set of Walking Dead and a few others, didn't work was just a guest of my friends who are in the industry.
jurov: what did you expect? gore? tentacles?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: also been on the set of a few shows that were pitched to Adult Swim but never made it to air.
thestringpuller: film industry is cutthroat, I can't wait for the first scammer to try and raise money for a movie
thestringpuller: and it ends up being some indiegogo bull crap that gets 100 views on youtube after spending 10,000 coins
jurov: there's this bitcoin documentary, dunno how they raised money for it
jurov: what is the rule no #? when you thought of a scam, someone on internet already did it
jurov: maybe rule 33, preceding rune 34
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bowjob: gah, ATC hasnt paid me yet. think he ran away?
bowjob: ATC777, the dude that shorted BTC at 75 dollars
bowjob: it was only 6 BTC split between me and john, the mod.. but it amounts to $1k now
bowjob: his excuse was his computer fried while mining ltc.!!
bowjob: seems like half the news is about hatin btc
bowjob: they jelly they didnt get in early... but we're still early
mircea_popescu: bowjob if everyone was pumping it we'd have a probkem.
Namworld: Did they take their 1,247 participants in an asylum or at some conspiracists conference or something?
mircea_popescu: Namworld you know, not as a dig but, you seem regularly confounded by the state of the world in various details.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.899 = 5.697 BTC [-]
KRS1: price of btc on gox is inflated
Namworld: I just live in Canada and rarely encounter such people...
Namworld: Maybe I should start asking these kind of questions to random people.
thestringpuller: looks like HIM is recovering, but it's gonna plummet if they depend on BFL for their ASICS
assbot: [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.89900000 / 1.8997619 / 1.90000000 (21 shares, 39.89500000 BTC), 7D: 1.87000000 / 1.97199182 / 2.08000000 (110 shares, 216.91910000 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.84047117 / 2.08000000 (694 shares, 1277.28699220 BTC)
bowjob: him was 4.6 btc when it started
bowjob: then it reached 20 btc, then it split
bowjob: its doing extremely well for a 22gigahash farm
thestringpuller: but as the difficulty rises I'm paranoid of their being a run on the stock
thestringpuller: everyone will vacate their position in HIM and move to ASICMINER or something
bowjob: i missed the reaction here about bfl jacking prices of their non existent machine
Namworld: According to the poll, the more conservative someone is, the more likely someone is to believe pretty much anything.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: 300 shares were issued initially during the IPO from June of 2012 to October of 2012
thestringpuller: as bowjob indicated 4.6 BTC was the initial price for the first 175 shares
bowjob: it wasnt a hot stock back then
bowjob: at the time, pirates fund was the rage
mircea_popescu: " NOw I can not live in my home and live in the garage of vegetable garden from my parents." lol
bgupta: That's like what 30k worth of GPU servers?
KRS1: Everyones worth a mil now mircea
KRS1: at least those who knew about btc
KRS1: whats the hassle man
bowjob: mp, i remember you asking topace about the hashpower of the rig
bowjob: you don't remember? :p
bowjob: he also said the fund will buy his 1.5 TH bfl preorder
bowjob: i dont think he ordered avalons
mircea_popescu: o so wait, it's the case they have ~6k btc on hand + 22gh deployed ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 489 @ 0.001021 = 0.4993 BTC [-]
novusordo: "Hi Mara. That is a hard life you have there."
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 3 @ 0.00102 = 0.0031 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 102 @ 0.00101 = 0.103 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [+]
bowjob: yeah man, 22 gh/s for $1m.
bowjob: they have a 1.5 TH BFL pre order.. we all know how that turned out.
bowjob: if bitbet sentiment is correct, batch 2 avalon will ship before bfl
bowjob: due to power issues, ect
mircea_popescu: bowjob all i gotta say is : bfl demoed box of fans ; 3 months later their rig cools passively.
bowjob: i;d be nice to get 3 mil for my avalon 2
bowjob: then again i might be shortchanging myself in the future
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 75 @ 0.00271 = 0.2033 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 58 @ 0.00271 = 0.1572 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 143 @ 0.0027 = 0.3861 BTC [-]