mjr_: that should work i think, but it doesn't
mjr_: i keep getting parse error
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.006 = 0.06 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.00067 = 0.0067 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "I already get enough shit because the general public think the legal adult industry and the illegal adult industry are all the same. I'm not asking for a second helping."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 14.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.7499998 = 5.25 BTC [+]
iz: there's another joke like that w/ a punchline of the wallet turning into a suitcase if you rubbed it a little
iz: like the dude saved foreskins and made leather goods out of them
mircea_popescu: "If MP has any dirty laundry such as child sex charges or other things it will be found by SA. Then MP can be right up there with such luminaries as Bruce Wagner."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.7499998 = 3 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00598093 = 5.9809 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00598092 = 0.299 BTC [-]
awkorama: I was rubbing my wallet.dat a little and it didn't change to any suitcase.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0006442 = 1.6749 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064135 = 2.7713 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064126 = 2.7709 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7808 @ 0.00064111 = 5.0058 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3445 @ 0.00064111 = 2.2086 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063943 = 2.763 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3084 @ 0.00063942 = 1.972 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3084 @ 0.00063942 = 1.972 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: 3 hours of waiting in the Burning Man ticket queue.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00609587 = 0.0305 BTC [+]
jurov: hm, looking to the site, do you ask "I understand that I will be required to pay 30 BTC" to be written in chinese/farsi FAQ, too?
kakobrekla: > The only Bitcoin service that has never been hacked.
pigeons: ;;google youtube les claypool burning man
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 45 @ 0.00609587 = 0.2743 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: I refreshed the initial page to slow and got in line 1 minute after it opened
jurov: lol it's like... in motorests in austria, there are slovak warnings "to use toilet you have to pay". slovak only.
mircea_popescu: some bitcoin tard "educating" a buncha strippers about bitcoin
mircea_popescu: it ended up something like, random bitcointalk dood walks into a forum populated by 5000 mpoeprs
jurov: 5000 mpoeprs *wipes monitor*
mircea_popescu: but seriously now : somebody should make a bitcoin based webcam programme.
mircea_popescu: the mericans came up with this really retarded idea whereby anyone sending money into the us has to also apply the us laws to their customers
mircea_popescu: which is why most non-us banks aren't actually dealing with transfers towards the us anymore
mircea_popescu: and to top it all off next year ALL transfers will have to be charged 30% tax
mircea_popescu: srsly. if you're an american and have a foreign bank account
kakobrekla: what does this have to to with free trade talkings that i posted about today
pigeons: many countries and banks don't allow american customers
kakobrekla: 13 February 2013: EU and US free-trade talks launched
Bugpowder: this is only if they don't report who the account owner is
Bugpowder: there is no withholding if they do report it seems
Bugpowder: BITCOIN RALLY ON IRC CHAT DISCUSSION
mircea_popescu: tbh i was pretty certain the cause of the rally is this
mircea_popescu: people were trying to wait past the halving but not much past march, so... squeeze.
Bugpowder: if you can afford the fee, they don't charge you
Bugpowder: or people will have money for offshore
mircea_popescu: in the unlikely event there's someone wioth any wealth left physically in the us
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.00000, Best ask: 25.15000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 25.00000, 24 hour volume: 82323.14434998, 24 hour low: 24.47998, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.57240
pigeons: and you haven't stopped talking since
mircea_popescu: it's funny how that works, i add names, the killed lines counter jumps to hundreds a day, then a few weeks later it's back to 0
kakobrekla: does it say on the end of report "you are very ignorant" :D
jurov: once btcusd goes to 133 coinbr acct will cost 12 bucks/month too, then :P
jurov: fuck bitbet... i made few small bets slightly drunk
jurov: using coinbr wallet
jurov: now i realized i have to check every deposit whether it isn't something from bitbet
jurov: and add alcohol tester to coinbr admin interface
kakobrekla: you will trick yourself using different drugs.
pizzaman1337: good, I want the price to go down. Need to buy more coings.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.49753, Best ask: 24.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00247, Last trade: 24.50000, 24 hour volume: 86614.45783048, 24 hour low: 24.48752, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.53151
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 948 @ 0.06641709 = 62.9634 BTC
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.50000, Best ask: 24.63661, Bid-ask spread: 0.13661, Last trade: 24.63661, 24 hour volume: 87831.55624440, 24 hour low: 24.48752, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.51202
gribble: 1 BTC = 24.63661 U.S. dollars = 18.2859126 Euros
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 52 @ 0.06641709 = 3.4537 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 745 @ 0.21602472 = 160.9384 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 745 @ 0.25537348 = 190.2532 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 744 @ 0.29472225 = 219.2734 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 735 @ 0.33407101 = 245.5422 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 4 @ 0.37341978 = 1.4937 BTC [+]
Namworld: Someone is cashing in his calls or something.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P250T] 1000 @ 0.10775591 = 107.7559 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P240T] 1000 @ 0.08563291 = 85.6329 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 1000 @ 0.06697417 = 66.9742 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.29000, Best ask: 24.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 24.30000, 24 hour volume: 89583.97608075, 24 hour low: 24.23140, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.48663
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P260T] 1000 @ 0.13408587 = 134.0859 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063952 = 2.7634 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11916 @ 0.00063942 = 7.6193 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4366 @ 0.00063878 = 2.7889 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 100 @ 0.06707301 = 6.7073 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 900 @ 0.06707301 = 60.3657 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P240T] 1000 @ 0.08576716 = 85.7672 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P250T] 1000 @ 0.10793223 = 107.9322 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: a dollar difference still stamp vs gox
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.48629718 = 486.2972 BTC [+]
pigeons: what the hell are you talking about
pigeons: but yeah market price is the price you can get them at, but no you can't get bitcoins from s.dice except dividend day or winning bets
kakobrekla: yeah theres an official place that sells 25$ btcs
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 1000 @ 0.06763205 = 67.6321 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P240T] 1000 @ 0.0864789 = 86.4789 BTC [+]
pigeons: what the hell are you talking about
kakobrekla: im guessing this weeked could be a good time to stock up if needed
pigeons: im gonna ignpore ore you too truffles if you dont stat making sense
Bugpowder: This will either make the ponzi plot truly explode.... or make me cry
pigeons: i think he's just a retard
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.48869324 = 488.6932 BTC [+]
pigeons: well now you have 50 places from that link
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.61000, Best ask: 23.87675, Bid-ask spread: 0.26675, Last trade: 23.61000, 24 hour volume: 94921.36763921, 24 hour low: 23.61000, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.39773
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.349 = 1.745 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 34 @ 0.3499 = 11.8966 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: dude that guy got fucked two times
Namworld: Some guy overbought on calls/oversold puts?
mircea_popescu: some whale shorted like i dunno, 20, 30k worth of deep puts last exercise
Bugpowder: he bought 30,000 calls at the top last time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12784 @ 0.00063878 = 8.1662 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3516 @ 0.00063701 = 2.2397 BTC [-]
maximian: mircea_popescu: PR should also mention that 1BTC is over $20 USD
maximian: cuz why would thy bother? they probably don't realize that bit coins are worth anything
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 1000 @ 0.06977665 = 69.7767 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.06000, Best ask: 23.10500, Bid-ask spread: 0.04500, Last trade: 23.10500, 24 hour volume: 100067.34572136, 24 hour low: 23.06000, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.28815
Namworld: so, another good month for S.MPOE in sight, mircea?
Namworld: with all the calls that were bought =P
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.03655, Best ask: 23.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06345, Last trade: 23.03655, 24 hour volume: 100563.10296792, 24 hour low: 23.03655, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.27701
swhitt: that's a lopsided market
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.02002, Best ask: 23.10001, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 23.02002, 24 hour volume: 101056.49539453, 24 hour low: 23.02002, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.26533
kakobrekla: ok for real truffles, start in #bitcoin-otc or smth
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00063701 = 2.4843 BTC [-]
Namworld: Yeah, but the growth was a bit unrealistic.
Namworld: there was no one selling, no ask depth. Price increasing very fast.
pigeons: right, because we're going to put you on ignore
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.04000, Best ask: 23.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.16000, Last trade: 23.20000, 24 hour volume: 106681.62083572, 24 hour low: 22.02100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.10876
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.02100, Best ask: 23.05000, Bid-ask spread: 1.02900, Last trade: 23.05000, 24 hour volume: 107968.90102643, 24 hour low: 22.02100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.07438
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.55933, Best ask: 22.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24067, Last trade: 23.05000, 24 hour volume: 109588.67124306, 24 hour low: 22.01000, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.03072
gribble: 1 BTC = 23.05000 U.S. dollars = 17.1082907 Euros
kakobrekla: we might be at 50$ for all we know by now
pizzaman1337: it could be in their interest for more lag though - more panic, more selling, more transaction fees, more profit..
Namworld: We could be at 1 or at 50, yeah
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.52201, Best ask: 22.79700, Bid-ask spread: 0.27499, Last trade: 22.79700, 24 hour volume: 111499.86991286, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.97243
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 265 @ 0.07546687 = 19.9987 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: their bad code is fuckin bitcoin stability
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1224 @ 0.00063701 = 0.7797 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34276 @ 0.00063696 = 21.8324 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.50000, Best ask: 22.65000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 22.65000, 24 hour volume: 114786.56433186, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.89309
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.51921463 = 519.2146 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064464 = 2.7855 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10829 @ 0.00064499 = 6.9846 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2594 @ 0.00067 = 1.738 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.78000, Best ask: 22.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 22.78000, 24 hour volume: 115402.35989204, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.87805
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.04288, Best ask: 23.08065, Bid-ask spread: 0.03777, Last trade: 23.08065, 24 hour volume: 117425.35972100, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.84136
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.33000, Best ask: 23.49800, Bid-ask spread: 0.16800, Last trade: 23.49800, 24 hour volume: 117968.26192446, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.83143
DeadWeasel: i'm sorry, did someone just take a 35k dump?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.40000, Best ask: 24.74000, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 24.40000, 24 hour volume: 121630.16790847, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80265
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.91954, Best ask: 24.94948, Bid-ask spread: 0.02994, Last trade: 24.91954, 24 hour volume: 122926.85310540, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80555
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063706 = 2.7527 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5179 @ 0.00063696 = 3.2988 BTC [-]
Namworld: and no market depth. Will crash right back. Price is unstable and should now correct, hopefully.
broomkorn: pretty sure the liquidity will prevent that
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.40000, Best ask: 24.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 24.40000, 24 hour volume: 123213.42485046, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80525
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.53072917 = 530.7292 BTC [+]
DeadWeasel: wtf, coinbase lowered their sell limit from 1K to 300
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 70 @ 0.00609588 = 0.4267 BTC [+]
Namworld: Price went to 25.5 like 10 minutes ago and now back down
Namworld: Not until that huge gap disappear ^
Bowjob: looks like we can hit 21 dollars any minute
gribble: Time since last block: 18 minutes and 13 seconds
gribble: Current Blocks: 221055 | Current Difficulty: 3275464.586565617 | Next Difficulty At Block: 221759 | Next Difficulty In: 704 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 1 hour, 39 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3478478.41739 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.19802
Namworld: Now prices are unstable and all it would take is some larger holding seeing this, panicking and selling 20k at market price to send it all crashing for good.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064238 = 2.7757 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10745 @ 0.00064256 = 6.9043 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1821 @ 0.00064499 = 1.1745 BTC [+]
Namworld: nah... that won't happen again...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2889 @ 0.00064701 = 1.8692 BTC [+]
Bowjob: fine. 2.1 coins please
Namworld: But I value BTC maybe 16-18 USD right now.
Bowjob: if we hit 2 dollars again im getting an mpex
aiball: Namworld are you selling at $17?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.39917, Best ask: 24.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00083, Last trade: 24.40000, 24 hour volume: 126560.10139199, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80221
kakobrekla: i sold at 25 bought back at 24 sold back some at 25
gribble: 1 BTC = 24.30001 U.S. dollars = 18.0360796 Euros
kakobrekla: better to not look at btc value and just make new coins on fx
Namworld: No, unless it drops under 17 USD/BTC
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.04750, Best ask: 24.40102, Bid-ask spread: 0.35352, Last trade: 24.04750, 24 hour volume: 126934.28273813, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80032
aiball: is this all about asics coming online today?
Namworld: They're coming only today? Who's?
aiball: so we've got the good old days until at least the next difficulty reset.
Diablo-D3: Namworld: er, asicminer most likely has almost all of theirs online
Diablo-D3: no one can get ahold of friedcat, which is evidence in of itself that hes very busy plugging shit in
aiball: and selling his new btcs
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the girl is totally rocking the stripper thread
gribble: Time since last block: 36 minutes and 6 seconds
aiball: MP are you being sarcastic? I don't know enough to be able to tell...
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.30000, Best ask: 24.35001, Bid-ask spread: 0.05001, Last trade: 24.30000, 24 hour volume: 126809.53474656, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.79075
Namworld: I'm the fucker who got the P230T bugpowder =/
Namworld: But I think the recent growth was too much too fast
Namworld: As I said, I have a 16-18 USD/BTC valuation.
mircea_popescu: i think tho we will see 24-25 for the rest of the month.
BitHub: maybe a lil sniff of 30
mircea_popescu: the way i've seen this to work is when high volume breaks, the price gets set
BitHub: 25 would be nice for a while tho
Bugpowder: There is a LOT of overhead pressure
Bugpowder: 25 for a while would be great for smoke
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder there was a lot of under pressure for a while.
Bugpowder: Yeah and it it fcking annihilated while I had dinner
kakobrekla: whore are retarded in reality as well.
mircea_popescu: srsly, don't knock whores, some of my best friends were hos.
BitHub: when you have all your funds tied up in bitcoin its days like this you wish your local vedor took bitcoin for a pack of smokes or something
mircea_popescu: BitHub having all your funds tied in bitcoin is unsanitary.
Bugpowder: There is a good chance of another leg down.
BitHub: well i mean not all my funds but all the fiat i put aside just for bitcoin
Bugpowder: Usually these moves are damped oscillations
Namworld: Well if bugpowder thinks like me, I'm satisfied.
Bugpowder: Anything is possible, cause bitcoin.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1530 @ 0.00609588 = 9.3267 BTC [+]
BitHub: i think i should try other stock exchanges and stuff
BitHub: having it all tied up into one site, real bad idea
BitHub: trying btcjam.com - i'll give you guys a review in a week. Let you know if its any good or a waste of time.
swhitt: anyone have opinions on coinbr vs havelock?
mircea_popescu: BitHub look up the girl's suspected scam thread in btctalk
swhitt: looking for a 2nd trading platform in addition to mpex
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006386 = 2.7594 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12479 @ 0.0006384 = 7.9666 BTC [-]
swhitt: mircea_popescu: _they_ should eh?
pigeons: you can buy everything on coinbr, only s.dice passthrough on havelock and 2 "mining bonds"
BitHub: i think i'll get most of it back
pigeons: s.dice on coinbr pays 100% - account management fee, on havelock it only pays 95%
Bugpowder: Coinbr is all you need if you have under 300btc
Bugpowder: Mpex is all u need if you have more
kakobrekla: there are many better places to put 100 btc
BitHub: well it is valentines day
DeadWeasel: maybe if I used a thumbdrive, i could keep it in her ass.
BitHub: but i want to make a lil btc off it
Bowjob: lol someone wanted me to buy bitcoins for them I get 10% commision
swhitt: well, ∞ as ∞ -> 21,000,000
BitHub: i don't even know what mpoe bonds means
BitHub: i still got lots to learn before doing that
Bugpowder_: there are always new opportunities arising
BitHub: i'm only about 6months into it
mircea_popescu: if he does things like dropping 100btc on btcjam he won't have much need to learn anything
BitHub: luzl mircea i was joking about that, i just dropped 5btc to try it out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3459 @ 0.0006384 = 2.2082 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10741 @ 0.00063696 = 6.8416 BTC [-]
Bowjob: is coin br a pass thru or is it a bot that directly trades at mpex?
DeadWeasel: mircea_popescu: my btcs would not be safe in there.
Bowjob: so i cant sell directly on mpex thru coin.br then
BitHub: is mpex doing the most volume right now?
mircea_popescu: DeadWeasel i was sayingso but these ppl disagreed with me
BitHub: like a real drug cartel?
DeadWeasel: BitHub: they sell the drugs to smaller syndicates, who then open 'exchanges'
DeadWeasel: BitHub: which are poorly written and run websites they basically sell you what they bought from the 'Cartel'
gribble: Time since last block: 5 minutes and 47 seconds
DeadWeasel: it's all completely improvable and insane, but if you're not a total twat you can make a couple BTC.
DeadWeasel: which is fun, but effectively not worth your time if you have a real job.
gribble: Error: "twat" is not a valid command.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.64900, Best ask: 24.72998, Bid-ask spread: 0.08098, Last trade: 24.64900, 24 hour volume: 126154.93631317, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77711
BitHub: mpex doesn't seem very serious tho
BitHub: seems like they could close down and take your coins any day now
DeadWeasel: hold you BTCs in a cold wallet at home and don't look back.
BitHub: trolling? No i'm being serious its just the impression i'm getting from first reading it
Bowjob: maybe they have a troll MPEX contest over at SA
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064666 = 2.7942 BTC [+]
pigeons: mpex is for gypsy puppets!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10346 @ 0.00064701 = 6.694 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pigeons is so fringe. he's always like, doing something nobody heard of
BitHub: lulz oh, this is your site mircea?
BitHub: kako, i actually like the simplicity of the website, easy to understand
BitHub: i think it just gives off a first impression
BitHub: i think its more catered to insiders of the community, rather than the mainstream people
Bugpowder_: not sure if this is a counter indicator or not
BitHub: any discount on the 30btc fee for mpex mircea :P
mircea_popescu: BitHub if you use someone's fingerprint you each get 5 btc
Bugpowder_: AA14 8EAF 40BE 9C02 F091 F382 F157 3A6B 1578 A821
BitHub: so use that whole thing?
BitHub: does mpex have a failsafe proof backup plan if a GLBSE happens?
mircea_popescu: AA148EAF40BE9C02F091F382F1573A6B1578A821 is teh right thing
kakobrekla: afaik F1573A6B1578A821 is the right thing
BitHub: i only half know what i'm doing
BitHub: but you gotta burn some btc to learn
Diablo-D3: bithub, put all your money in dmc 2.0
BitHub: i just want to start earning 1btc a day
BitHub: as quickly as possible
Bugpowder_: So much capital flow into MPEX must go somewhere
BitHub: have no idea what that means
Bugpowder_: stock price rises have crushed the dividends
Bugpowder_: Like S.DICE has paid out around what, .01?
mircea_popescu: there's totally 5-6 mn still waiting for a home out there
BitHub: i think a year from now i'll be doing alot better
BitHub: just need to get that first n00b year out of the way
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00598092 / 0.00617859 / 0.00625 (29517 shares, 182.37 BTC), 7D: 0.004321 / 0.00619263 / 0.0064 (1926831 shares, 11,932.15 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.0056144 / 0.0075 (8131062 shares, 45,651.11 BTC)
Bugpowder_: good, keep that positive attitude and you'll go far son.
BitHub: you're right mircea no rush
mircea_popescu: there's actually perversely more room for stock appreciation than for dividends
mircea_popescu: because the listed busiensses are MUCH better at their business than avg btc person at allocating capital
Bugpowder_: As risk perception of bitcoin goes down, stock price should approach a point where dividends are paying 5% of price a year
BitHub: so buying and selling shares is much better than just waiting on divs?
BitHub: every share i have pays a div, which is nice, long term play
Bugpowder_: but I have concerns about their revenue staying up
BitHub: i think it might be the myspace of the bitcoin world
Bugpowder_: until I see more money flowing into the big betting accounts
Bugpowder_: S.BBET has potential, but got bought really high in the IPO
BitHub: might be a passing fad? sdice
Bugpowder_: so shares are very expensive relative to current div
BitHub: i purchased alot of s.bbet on ipo
BitHub: long term play as well
mircea_popescu: well, bitbet made ~1400 worth of bets in jan. there's already like 1300+ and it's half february
mircea_popescu: and the div was calculated on ~400 btc that closed in january.
BitHub: i don't understand those enough
Bugpowder_: despite the very resonable sale price on the current MAR futures
BitHub: do you think bbet would exchange some shares with me for some domains?
kakobrekla: i have more euros comming in dunno it just doesnt stop
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.20100, Best ask: 25.25167, Bid-ask spread: 0.05067, Last trade: 25.43850, 24 hour volume: 125018.23437143, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77011
Bugpowder_: I should have checked the reddit sentiment index
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.21105, Best ask: 25.29999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08894, Last trade: 25.21103, 24 hour volume: 125052.58662713, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77029
Bugpowder_: Show me a 5k volume candleon the 15m and I'll believe it
DeadWeasel: shoulda waited for todays dump though, but bugpowder is right
DeadWeasel: i love the speculation thread on bitcointalk
DeadWeasel: if you constantly watch the different charts, it's possible, but i work and eat and poop.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.21206, Best ask: 25.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08794, Last trade: 25.30000, 24 hour volume: 125063.37060347, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77082
Bugpowder_: picking out apartments in santa monica
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19317 @ 0.00063722 = 12.3092 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2033 @ 0.00063722 = 1.2955 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1665 @ 0.00064701 = 1.0773 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064784 = 2.7993 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064784 = 2.7993 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1810 @ 0.00064785 = 1.1726 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3754 @ 0.00063696 = 2.3911 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2096 @ 0.0006368 = 1.3347 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2225 @ 0.0006368 = 1.4169 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4615 @ 0.00063679 = 2.9388 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5191 @ 0.00064785 = 3.363 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006518 = 2.8164 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00065181 = 4.2368 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.00929, Best ask: 25.19900, Bid-ask spread: 0.18971, Last trade: 25.19900, 24 hour volume: 126127.08330674, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77347
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.0063 = 0.63 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00067 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 500 @ 0.00067 = 0.335 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 692 @ 0.00065181 = 0.4511 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065205 = 2.8175 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00065222 = 0.6522 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4781 @ 0.00065223 = 3.1183 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: ha, the new header borked my spreadsheet
swhitt: is there a way to subscribe to the trades feed without polling the rss feed?
swhitt: and how often is considered kosher (on MPEx)
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0157 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0156 = 0.1248 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0154 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00065223 = 8.642 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00595 = 0.0595 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0061 = 0.061 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0061 = 0.122 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.56458, Best ask: 25.57789, Bid-ask spread: 0.01331, Last trade: 25.42042, 24 hour volume: 131695.93004727, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80064
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.00195 = 0.0195 BTC [-]
Namworld: wow, did it bounce back to 26?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00981 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00981 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: i am aware of depth, lookin at same thing since 2011 or what was it
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00067 = 0.067 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0063 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: I wish I had enough coins to destroy this rally
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 3 @ 0.59 = 1.77 BTC [+]
Namworld: One of the larger player off to sell off a good chunk soon before it's too late.
Namworld: I'm certain it will go back down hard soon.
Namworld: But I'm not 100% sure that soon will be before the 22th
Namworld: Either way, I put 280 BTC down on my puts
Bugpowder: there was a 5k green candle on the bounce now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1130 @ 0.00065223 = 0.737 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9970 @ 0.00065228 = 6.5032 BTC [+]
Namworld: Dropped a lot, then it started going back up fast
Namworld: people bought... but that was because there's no market depth.
Bugpowder: That dude that covered his put short
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5796 @ 0.00065169 = 3.7772 BTC [-]
Namworld: When it's either lose 90% on exiting or stay on your decision...
Namworld: Better stick to your decision. That 10% will be no consolation.
Namworld: Well yeah, at least rally looks killed.
Bugpowder: I don't think it was a bad call though
Namworld: I think the odds of the rally going down before the 22th are good. That first drop and more bearish ask is good enough to me.
Namworld: I've been waiting on it for weeks.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 10 @ 0.0299 = 0.299 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.7499998 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.78395, Best ask: 26.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21605, Last trade: 26.25000, 24 hour volume: 137291.37159601, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.87115
Namworld: Some bought back a few thousands...
Namworld: But now the bids depths are very short
mircea_popescu: methinks the mtgox book may be as meaningless as the mpex book.
mircea_popescu: <Bugpowder> I wish I had enough coins to destroy this rally <<< one doesn't simply destroy this rally.
swhitt: I was just wondering how often would be considered 'impolite' by yourself
swhitt: if I were to be polling for changes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7125 @ 0.00065228 = 4.6475 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063679 / 0.00064992 / 0.00066142 (1336281 shares, 868.48 BTC), 7D: 0.0006153 / 0.00065743 / 0.0007 (18930104 shares, 12,445.28 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066264 / 0.0007 (72883171 shares, 48,295.65 BTC)
swhitt: mircea_popescu: oh, ok. I won't be anything near that. I'd let you know before I did anything close to that. How often does assbot poll?
mircea_popescu: you can also get the twitter feed, if you have a twitter api key
swhitt: no way to subscribe to a push at this time?
swhitt: that might be easier to ensure that everything is up to date.
mircea_popescu: ya but you'd have to be strategically important. in general what im thinking is push to some high uptime strong distribution networks and everyone can poll those
mircea_popescu: you can probably configure a listener bot in this chan and it can push to you wherever tho
swhitt: yeah, I completely understand. That makes sense.
kakobrekla: if you give me an intiative, i can repush.
swhitt: well, I'd want redundancy if it wasn't the "official" feed
swhitt: so I might do a combination of twitter+irc
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.93500, Best ask: 26.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06500, Last trade: 26.00000, 24 hour volume: 141166.77007292, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.90903
Namworld: That brown line is average growth on 365 days
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3455 @ 0.00065228 = 2.2536 BTC [+]
Namworld: yeah, uptrend. But the current price? Might be a bubble.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12295 @ 0.00065327 = 8.032 BTC [+]
swhitt: is there any way to see 2nd derivative of that trendline?
Namworld: The price raising fast over the yearly trend seems to be near pirate end, when lots of people got burned. Dropped a bit afterward. Then everyone started to load up for some reason.
Namworld: Now in the last days, no asks almost. Price skyrocketed, no one was selling.
Namworld: It just seems like that price is not sustainable to me. Although I think Bitcoins are worth more than last year and will continue trending upward.
Namworld: It's just that now, we're way too high.
mircea_popescu: the thing with bitcoin is, the larger the total value the more appealing they are to people.
mircea_popescu: so i think one of the reasons price is going up is to give space for various interests.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.748 = 2.244 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: finally caught up on the chat log, mp, that stripper thread is great
Namworld: Maybe... I don't see the appeal in higher prices tho
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4305 @ 0.00065327 = 2.8123 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7645 @ 0.00065379 = 4.9982 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Namworld well the appeal is this : if you go to iran and say hey, don't be stupid moving your dough on aplane, move it in bitcoin
mircea_popescu: they go "does bitcoin have enough mkt cap to cover 200mn ?!"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.99 = 1.98 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.748 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.20004, Best ask: 26.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04996, Last trade: 26.25000, 24 hour volume: 146215.43264948, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.60000, 24 hour vwap: 24.95764
Namworld: it doesn't... if anyone would buy for that much, would skyrocket the price. But then if he wants to sell?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.19070, Best ask: 26.34181, Bid-ask spread: 0.15111, Last trade: 26.64000, 24 hour volume: 147736.52475072, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.65000, 24 hour vwap: 24.97344
Namworld: It's a bulltrap... don't listen to mircea... there's some dude who bought tons of calls. He wants price to go down. He just wants more people to buy calls prior to that =P
ThickAsThieves: after our conversation about BitBet ive been hanging there more
Namworld: That bitcoins are sustainably worth that much... it's a possibility but I'm betting against it.
Namworld: Maybe I'm just a fool... put the average bitcoiner and newbies seem incredibly bearish... that gotta blow up at some point.
pigeons: how long have you been here ThickAsThieves?
Namworld: That's the kind of thoughts that creates bubbles... natural course is up... everyone is investing in it... we'll always have someone else to sell to
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.96624, Best ask: 26.01999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05375, Last trade: 25.96624, 24 hour volume: 158444.85494761, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.65000, 24 hour vwap: 25.05489
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00067 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006428 = 2.7775 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4629 @ 0.00064308 = 2.9768 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4788 @ 0.00063992 = 3.0639 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1762 @ 0.00063917 = 1.1262 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2559 @ 0.00063917 = 1.6356 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5841 @ 0.00063916 = 3.7333 BTC [-]
Namworld: Did the guy with calls cash out already?
mjr__: what is the vwap at now?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6009 @ 0.00063916 = 3.8407 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12891 @ 0.000638 = 8.2245 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.07000, Best ask: 26.07001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 26.07001, 24 hour volume: 158889.21035303, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.65000, 24 hour vwap: 25.05851
mjr__: options can be complicated enough without worrying about fx risk on top lol
mircea_popescu: "Yeah, yeah, I can tell you do not have a very highly developed capacity for abstract thinking -- developers do not necessarily care much about the design of things but often prioritize functionality, i. e. you are not my target market so go and play with some lego blocks, I am sure you will find them colorful and appealing."
mircea_popescu: i dunno why people keep ragging on mpoe-pr, she never says shit like that.
mjr__: mircea, do you think that coinbase could be a large part of this rally?
mjr__: they are pretty new and supposedly doing a ton of volume
mjr__: expanding the user base
mjr__: has to have some impact, i think it's a combination of them and the ton of news coming out about bitcoins
mjr__: i even think that it is possible that if they have halted sales due to demand, that they caused the dip
mjr__: but purely speculative
mjr__: i mean a million dollars a month is not crazy, but i think it would move the market
mjr__: lol, s.dice is doing well for me right now
mjr__: but mpoe is undervalued i think
mjr__: but i look forward to the end of the month report
mjr__: yeah, can you believe that someone said to me on reddit (of course you can) that exchange rate has nothing to do with returns
mjr__: ie. you either hold S.DICE or you hold Bitcoins
mjr__: i'm like, you sell and buy S.DICE or S.MPOE using bitcoins, it's a way to grow your bitcoins, and the value of those bitcoins changes, so your total return when measured in dollars is a function of both effects
mircea_popescu: well, people think that s.dice betting volumes are somehow related to bitcoin price
mircea_popescu: this may or may not be true. if you look at the graphs there's no relation so far.
mircea_popescu: but maybe because other factors drowned it out and will be more apparent in the future.
mjr__: but that does not change the fact that when measured in USD, your total return is still a function of price of bitcoins and price of shares + dividends
mjr__: same on any stock exchange when you are in a different country
mjr__: if i buy japanese stocks on nikei, i have to also account for yen/usd exchange
mjr__: anyway, if i am expecting financial savvy on reddit, i should get my head checked
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0242 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00064308 = 1.1254 BTC [+]
mjr__: lol, yeah, it is a flash heavy site
mjr__: but the first quote is...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1962 @ 0.00064308 = 1.2617 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3238 @ 0.00064399 = 2.0852 BTC [+]
mjr__: There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved.
mjr__: it's the hedge fund that nassim taleb works at
mjr__: i just finished antifragile, and i think it is a great book, i just wonder if he is aware of bitcoins
mjr__: that was a quote from ludwig von mises
mircea_popescu: i think the bitcoin gambit currently is to try and persuade some hedge fund people.
mjr__: that is what i am working on
mjr__: because that will change everything
mjr__: if you can bridge wall st and bitcoins
mjr__: you can first of all get a rally up to $100 if capital starts pouring in
mjr__: and second of all gain legitimacy as they are behind it
mjr__: since they have washington in their pocket
mjr__: my original plan was to get a public company with bitcoins as assets
mjr__: but i would have to do a reverse merger for that and buy a public company
mjr__: so might be too hard
mjr__: so now i am looking at a slower approach to start a hedge fund type deal
mjr__: i already convinced the CEO of my company and he is meeting with some Forex guys and is going to see if they could offer a product using bitcoins
mjr__: at some point, people on wall st will realize that instead of gold, bitcoins are a much better opportunity against the dollar
mjr__: at that point, there will be an influx of capital that has never been seen in bitcoin
mjr__: i know that a lot of people in this field are in finance
mjr__: but they do this on their own
mjr__: soon, it will be financial companies
mjr__: and at that point, we will see a ton of demand all at once
mjr__: egypt, argentina, venezuela etc.
mjr__: fiat currencies are failing hard
mjr__: and today i realized that our system is not tried and proven, it is very very new, we only adopted this in the US in 1971
mjr__: so it is still an experiment, having money not backed by any asset
mjr__: if someone could start an ETF that tracks bitcoins, that would change everything, that is what i was trying to do, but it is hard
mjr__: getting it publicly available would cost like 50k, and that is just basically a setup fee
mjr__: well...you get no return on that 50k
mircea_popescu: all you need is someone start a general partnership with a few tens of mils from a dozen friends
mjr__: if i had a few tens of mills it would be done already
mjr__: its easy, you let people buy a bitcoin backed ETF with their etrade accounts
mjr__: they have a hedge against the dollar
mjr__: and currently yielding great returns
mjr__: just a tiny fraction of the money on wall street could quadruple the "market cap" of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: this would not be open to the masses for a decade at least.
mircea_popescu: you have to understand the "for people" attitude internet dweebs immediately paint over bitcoin is nothing of any consequence
mircea_popescu: they do it because that's all their experience allows.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1083 @ 0.00064399 = 0.6974 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15102 @ 0.000644 = 9.7257 BTC [+]
mjr__: but if you have a publicly traded stock
mircea_popescu: you get a closed partnership with a billion under management
mjr__: that is a nice way to do it too
mircea_popescu: why bother offer it to the public ? the incentives just aren't there
mjr__: but i really want to offer it to the public
mjr__: so that everyone, even old people who don't understand, can get exposure
mircea_popescu: old people that don't understand shouldn't get exposure.
mjr__: i don't want to see us recreate the current system
mjr__: but just put ourselves in positions of power
mjr__: i want to see everyone enjoy this new change
mjr__: or at least have the option to
mircea_popescu: dude. somebody who doesn't understand does not and can not have a position of power.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00616999 = 5.553 BTC [+]
mjr__: but i want to make it easier for them to get exposure to the bitcoin economy
mjr__: without having to actually get involved
mjr__: similar to gold ETF
mircea_popescu: getting involved is a guarantee they put the effort into understanding.
mjr__: well, not if they just buy shares using investment account
mircea_popescu: if they can't be bothered to do that, there's no reason to suspect they won't hurt themselves.
mjr__: but i think the option should be there
mjr__: so that anyone can actually have a portfolio with publicly traded shares
mjr__: that touches the world of bitcoins
mjr__: so, whether it is a hedge fund or a public company or an etf
mjr__: i think something along those lines is coming
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1115 @ 0.00064459 = 0.7187 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2385 @ 0.000638 = 1.5216 BTC [-]
mjr__: gpg is also going to be huge
mircea_popescu: it literally takes the average knowledgeable person 1 hour to go from holding some fiat to holding some btc stocks.
mircea_popescu: now, that they'e not knowledgeable is ok, but should be fixed there,
mjr__: but also, i think it is so funny that someone tried to do the idea in reverse
mjr__: a hedge fund wanted to raise btc so they could convert it out of btc and put it into the stock market
mjr__: they were on twitter called btchedgefund or something
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064498 = 2.787 BTC [+]
mjr__: let me take your btc and put it into dollars
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1179 @ 0.000645 = 0.7605 BTC [+]
mjr__: going to grab a smoke brb
mjr__: it's funny though, my friend who i work with is so impressed with nomura because they use pgp
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 534 @ 0.000638 = 0.3407 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063796 = 2.7566 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6773 @ 0.00063795 = 4.3208 BTC [-]
mjr__: he was like that is the future, they really have their shit together
mjr__: one of the things that i take away from all that i've experienced in bitcoins is that if you expect scams, you are safer than getting blindsided by "mortgage-back securities" or credit default swaps
mjr__: the key is to know the risk and the downside
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063805 = 2.757 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1179 @ 0.00063795 = 0.7521 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064481 = 2.7862 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5157 @ 0.000645 = 3.3263 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64 @ 0.00063797 = 0.0408 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00063796 = 1.0207 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063796 = 2.7566 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9932 @ 0.00063795 = 6.3361 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1833 @ 0.00063754 = 1.1686 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3564 @ 0.000645 = 2.2988 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064598 = 2.7913 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7783 @ 0.00064599 = 5.0277 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00067 = 0.067 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 232 @ 0.0095 = 2.204 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3817 @ 0.00064599 = 2.4657 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00064785 = 1.069 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065143 = 2.8148 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3212 @ 0.00065143 = 2.0924 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064094 = 2.7695 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 479 @ 0.00064072 = 0.3069 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064609 = 2.7918 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20829 @ 0.0006459 = 13.4535 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1109 @ 0.00064668 = 0.7172 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8320 @ 0.00064699 = 5.383 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2900 @ 0.006 = 17.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0062799 = 1.884 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000646 = 2.7914 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6479 @ 0.0006459 = 4.1848 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.0006459 = 11.0449 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064664 = 2.7941 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064669 = 2.7943 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8230 @ 0.00064699 = 5.3247 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00065144 = 6.7098 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16493 @ 0.0006527 = 10.765 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00065403 = 11.6417 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1435 @ 0.00065464 = 0.9394 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00064591 = 1.5502 BTC [-]
jurov: Nomura Securities copies MPEx after a year and a half… yeah here we go
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1921 @ 0.00064591 = 1.2408 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9842 @ 0.0006459 = 6.3569 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6137 @ 0.00064246 = 3.9428 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: but it's the fact. first financial institution to use gpg ? mpex.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064253 = 2.7764 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10547 @ 0.00064246 = 6.776 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13319 @ 0.00064072 = 8.5337 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4213 @ 0.00063888 = 2.6916 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00063888 = 10.9568 BTC [-]
mjr__: honored to be cited...lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1424 @ 0.00065464 = 0.9322 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1041 @ 0.00065464 = 0.6815 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065484 = 2.8296 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5507 @ 0.00065485 = 3.6063 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6231 @ 0.00065494 = 4.0809 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064741 = 2.7975 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12679 @ 0.00064744 = 8.2089 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064719 = 2.7965 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11439 @ 0.00064744 = 7.4061 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065491 = 2.8299 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9446 @ 0.00065494 = 6.1866 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12474 @ 0.00065494 = 8.1697 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063679 / 0.00064677 / 0.00066098 (1409926 shares, 911.90 BTC), 7D: 0.0006153 / 0.00065584 / 0.0007 (18889176 shares, 12,388.36 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066251 / 0.0007 (73333145 shares, 48,584.03 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3907 @ 0.00065268 = 2.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063895 = 2.7609 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2263 @ 0.00063888 = 1.4458 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064482 = 2.7863 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11129 @ 0.00064504 = 7.1787 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00064336 = 1.0615 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006389 = 2.7607 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10429 @ 0.00063888 = 6.6629 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45 @ 0.00063888 = 0.0287 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063755 = 2.7549 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21817 @ 0.00063754 = 13.9092 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15667 @ 0.00063654 = 9.9727 BTC [-]
DeadWeasel: bouncy bitcoin. a lot of hungry mouths were waiting for that drop.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.86297, Best ask: 25.89910, Bid-ask spread: 0.03613, Last trade: 25.86297, 24 hour volume: 147093.07547354, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.65000, 24 hour vwap: 25.00466
DeadWeasel: mircea_popescu: at work, no videos. already use webIRC to get around blocks.
gribble: Current Blocks: 221145 | Current Difficulty: 3275464.586565617 | Next Difficulty At Block: 221759 | Next Difficulty In: 614 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 15 hours, 11 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3474257.66998 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.06916
kakobrekla: BFL will deliver ASIC devices before March 1st;
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063679 = 2.7516 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1093 @ 0.00063659 = 0.6958 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ya a fpga is running somewhere in the house
DeadWeasel: i'll take that as a yes, mircea_popescu
DeadWeasel: I get 171 with a ati 6770, but it's not worth it.
jcpham: passive 7870's sound elite to me
jcpham: a rig box full of passive cooled gpus
kakobrekla: i had a passive nvidia running at 105 degrees C for years
kakobrekla: bitdaytrade : Today at 12:09:28 PM : Go troll somewhere else. I'm working hard to raise the necessary funds. Very positive news are on the horizon.
mircea_popescu: it's funny how scammers always have very positive news on the horison
kakobrekla: poor eskimo, would hurt too much to write "you area right", he writes "you are not wrong"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064484 = 2.7864 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6171 @ 0.00064504 = 3.9805 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5149 @ 0.00065494 = 3.3723 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10409 @ 0.00065622 = 6.8306 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 11 @ 0.006 = 0.066 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3228 @ 0.00063659 = 2.0549 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8372 @ 0.00063654 = 5.3291 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3891 @ 0.00065622 = 2.5534 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065629 = 2.8358 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49 @ 0.0006563 = 0.0322 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 9 @ 0.99 = 8.91 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065609 = 2.835 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2929 @ 0.0006563 = 1.9223 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: apparently llewellyn didn't much care for this week's reality tv
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3399 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063676 = 2.7514 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2629 @ 0.00063654 = 1.6735 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.42000, Best ask: 26.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 26.40901, 24 hour volume: 147397.72847532, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.65000, 24 hour vwap: 25.02041
mod6: Bugpowder: what up?
kakobrekla: and by invest you mean lose money with?
assbot: Your actions are useless.
Garr255_Lappy: kakobrekla, let me know when mining stock, not bonds, becomes unprofitable.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064002 = 2.7655 BTC [+]
mjr__: is there a crossed quote on mpoe?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063996 = 2.7653 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2879 @ 0.00063967 = 1.8416 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Garr255_Lappy you got a graph of cognitive price somewhere ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00063967 = 4.6696 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064037 = 2.767 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064046 = 2.7674 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2158 @ 0.00064052 = 1.3822 BTC [+]
leflor: mircea_popescu warren buffet is going to buy mpex for 1 billion dollars
gribble: There are currently 13428.315 bitcoins offered at or under 27.0 USD, worth 360232.300725 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 34633.742 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 974142.854562 USD in total.
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0181 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.018 = 1.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 14 @ 0.0154 = 0.2156 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 200 @ 0.0153 = 3.06 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 150 @ 0.0152 = 2.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 43 @ 0.0152 = 0.6536 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.0151 = 0.755 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i shou;d prolly link that from mpex main page just for lulz.
kakobrekla: is never to high to buy and never too low to sell
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i don't have the full range of sensual experiences.
jurov: no matter how deep, no matter how hiiiigh
jurov: nono nononono nonono limiiit
mod6: they're beating up on MPEx in bitcoin-otc...
mod6: more nonsense about how "bad" teh website is lol
mod6: (10:04) < FonziScheme> we're talking about the website, mod6. get over it
mod6: (10:05) <+mod6> hahaha
mod6: these dumbshits sit in there and talk all kinds of trash. at some point I usually jump in and tell 'em what idiots they are.
mod6: this is one of those moments
mod6: (10:05) < FonziScheme> but if you want to discuss how crappy the CLI scripty is, we can do that
mod6: (10:06) <+mod6> you want to dog on my code, feel free.
mod6: (10:06) <+mod6> asswipe
mod6: (10:06) < FonziScheme> wow. simma down.
mod6: (10:06) < FonziScheme> panties, meet bunch.
mod6: (10:07) <+mod6> then stop talking shit about stuff you don't understand FonziScheme
mod6: (10:07) < FonziScheme> stop claiming no one understands it, mod5
pigeons: fonzischeme may be under fbastage or reliablesource
pigeons: he's been on my ignore for a year
mod6: ahh, he's mildly retarded
mircea_popescu: 20450 fbastage 18 mircea_popescu 2013-02-11 17:33:47 -2 spammer and megalomaniac.
mircea_popescu: fucking hell all these people talking about me that i don;t even know.
mod6: well, that doesn't shock me in the least then. he has an axe to grind.
mod6: they think they can just do 2minutes hate everyday and I wont call 'em out
mod6: (10:01) <+Scrat> neofutur: i dont care about validation either but MPOE is the worst website ive seen since geocities
mod6: (10:04) <+mod6> What MPEx is, is not a website. I'm not sure why people fail to understand that. It doesn't even really need a damn website.
mod6: (10:04) <+mod6> lol
mircea_popescu: any connection between these fine folks and the douches embroiled in the "highest valued currency" wiki revert war ?
mod6: I think there might be.
mod6: I don't follow in there quite close enough these days.
mircea_popescu: well since mpoe-pr is trolling stripper forums i kinda lost track of reddit
mod6: i bet that is moar lulz
mod6: seriously, its a bunch of dudes who even have neg ratings as oppers.
mod6: one day last week (I forget who it was for now) there was someone op'd and I was like "WAH HOW DID DA SCAMMERZ GET OPZ?!"
mircea_popescu: you about ready to purge the bitcoin-otc oplist or give it moar time ?
mod6: but... i guess they need some monitoring in there and there isnt a ton of trusted people left to do the job.
mod6: 521 active nicks in the channel, so that's up about 100
mod6: which is good. but man, there are some real dumbasses who think they run that show.
imsaguy: neg ratings aren't always a bad thing. neg ratings from an idiot source really aren't neg ratings.
mod6: when I seem to check every now and then it seems to typically hover around 400-450
imsaguy: the whole point of otc is that you go by your web of trust
imsaguy: not some stupid sum number
mod6: imsaguy: I'm with you there. I need to find who I was talking about... the guy srsly looked like he had some scammer ratings.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2594 @ 0.00063967 = 1.6593 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063655 = 2.7505 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6085 @ 0.00063654 = 3.8733 BTC [-]
imsaguy: half weren't active more than a week
mircea_popescu: imsaguy who was at some point negative total so the rule about rating with negative had to be reverted ?
imsaguy: most were because people don't/didn't understand how ratings work
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063671 = 2.7512 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6242 @ 0.00063654 = 3.9733 BTC [-]
imsaguy: kakobrekla: exactly, it all depends on who you trust, not hte absolute
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla im sure he has pirate + too, it's how scamming works, you suck up to people.
imsaguy: ;;gettrust imsaguy pirateat40
imsaguy: I'm surprised my L2 to pirate is still positive
mod6: it seriosly could have been Anduck i'm talking about
imsaguy: kakobrekla, I used to be one.
imsaguy: The first few negatives take care of that though.
mod6: im like WTF is this guy doing with ops.
pigeons: starsoccer doesn't know that he's a scammer
mircea_popescu: mod6 anduck was the guy coming here ocasionally asking me like why im trusted and shit no ?
mod6: he's just a random guy with 1 bad rating... might be somewhat superficial.
imsaguy: many of the people with ops in there atm aren't on the access list
imsaguy: well, if I leave and come back, I won't have ops from chanserv
imsaguy: if nanotube leaves and comes back, chanserv can/will give him ops
imsaguy: kakobrekla, not if you're not on the access list
mod6: oh so someone just does like /op imsaguy
mod6: instead of telling ChanServ to hook you up
imsaguy: I'm too emotional with the bans sometimes
imsaguy: so its good I'm not on the list
imsaguy: ban first, ask questions never
mircea_popescu: this chan is noban, it works fine. my chan is +m, works fine
mircea_popescu: the stuff in between tho, with the banning... not so fine.
mod6: it does get the point across to trolls with limited reach -- for everything else there's SupaDupa
imsaguy: mod6, we fixed that though
mircea_popescu: mod6 so gives idiot kids an incentive to read up on supaduping
mircea_popescu: imsaguy i thought freenode finally got their shit together ?
imsaguy: well, we're talking two different things
imsaguy: he was making tons of fake otc accounts
imsaguy: I would catch those almost as quickly as he made them
imsaguy: freenode and the assbot were something else
imsaguy: then again, its mainly dead these days
imsaguy: it was back when people were trying to figure out gpumining
imsaguy: now that the settings are pretty tried and true and almost obsolete
gribble: Time since last block: 12 minutes and 42 seconds
mircea_popescu: how do we know avalons/asicminers aren't premining a huge chain!
imsaguy: because they're just mining
pigeons: cause it would work out better for them to just mine honestly
mircea_popescu: seems suspicious as all hell, weeks after everyonedelivered network is still humming at 25.
gribble: Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 6.19499 % based on data since last change | 10.21154 % based on data for last three days
pigeons: they just turned em up today really
imsaguy: 12TH is only like 50% of current network
imsaguy: which means they only have 33% of combined
mircea_popescu: that guy with the 1th was there since like the 12th neh ?
imsaguy: probably dealing with heat and internet connection issues
mircea_popescu: ya. th mining requires some stuff other than power plug.
imsaguy: especially on older hardwear like theirs
mircea_popescu: the one thing that becomes interesting now is of course useful life.
mircea_popescu: if a set mines at 12th on average for 500 hours and then pops
imsaguy: it'll be interesting to see where things settle
gribble: The expected generation output, at 12000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3275464.58657, is 1842.44953278 BTC per day and 76.7687305327 BTC per hour.
mircea_popescu: if they spike us up and then their gear dies early in a recalc cycle it'll be nasty.
imsaguy: ;;calc 500/24*1842.44953278
imsaguy: they only spent 20000 for it
imsaguy: it wouldn't be for too long that we'd be 'stuck'
imsaguy: and right now, its only 1th anyway
imsaguy: gotta have something to bitch about
imsaguy: if not that, it'd be something else.
imsaguy: don't even try to fool yourself :p
imsaguy: ok, its time to go stick my head in a meat grinder.
imsaguy: enjoy the rest of your day/evening.
imsaguy: well you know, I am pirateat40
mod6: dude, I think that maybe you were the first person that sold me BTC.
mod6: so for that, I thank you :)
imsaguy: haha, I broke a lot of cherries back in the day
mircea_popescu: who's that forum kid that keeps reporting on like, what pirate did in his hood
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.031 BTC [-]
mod6: he actually one a 10 BTC bet on over 26 USD by Noon EST today.
mircea_popescu: then a while back i referred to someone by her byname instead of their handle
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.00066 = 0.0033 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.006 = 0.024 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1011 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.332 BTC [-]
mjr_: ugh, reddit is bumming me out
mod6: just hang on irc then, less hassle?
mjr_: i mean, so dumb though
mjr_: don't understand FX Risk
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 49 @ 0.01 = 0.49 BTC [+]
mod6: yeah, this stuff is pretty far beyond most people who use the internet on a daily basis.
mjr_: "if the price of bitcoins doubles, the price of S.DICE halves"
mjr_: i'm like OH that is why every single stock on NYSE moves the same direction at the same time
mjr_: yes, but you get forward contracts or options to guarantee and hedge
mjr_: well, not for me at least
mjr_: i'm up 6 or 7% on S.DICE
mjr_: so my total gain when measured in dollars is a combo of the two effects
mircea_popescu: you got in late, ipo people are up like whatever, 80% on s.dice and 300% on btc
mjr_: i'm not saying there is NO correlation
mjr_: but still...these returns are great and that's before i have ever even received dividends
mjr_: 0.0057 is what i got S.DICE for
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.33672, Best ask: 26.36438, Bid-ask spread: 0.02766, Last trade: 26.30110, 24 hour volume: 143473.69366734, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.67000, 24 hour vwap: 25.03657
mjr_: yeah, if only i had gotten in then
Bugpowder: It was up to 4x till last night's bounce :(
mjr_: but that position is up...i got the bitcoins on average for 21.22 so that position is up
mjr_: so i am up in total by the combination of the two
mjr_: also...how can people retroactively go back and make their bets smaller because bitcoins are worth more now?
mircea_popescu: mjr_ what's your exit point ? or didn't establuish in advance ?
mircea_popescu: well, there's this theory that people will bet less if btc are worth more.
mircea_popescu: cause well... gamblers are rational people and everything
mjr_: but they already bet and that is already his revenue
mjr_: so my tiny fraction of that revenue is already mine in dividends
mircea_popescu: yes, for the current month. but past months are water under the bridge far as you're concerned
mjr_: they can't change that now
mjr_: my point is that for february
mod6: upwards and onwards though!
mjr_: i hope to get 3% on my position
mjr_: i am happy with that
mircea_popescu: well if you want to look art it this way, i was making bets on diff this year as far back as aug/sept 2012
mjr_: as opposed to just taking the ride on btc, i am basically doubling down my bet
mircea_popescu: 100 btc bet then worth like 700 or w/e, 200 btc won now worth like 5k ?
mjr_: which is down from where i bought it
mjr_: even though btc is up
mircea_popescu: people would take things like "diff will be under 50mn" at even money etc.
mjr_: again, the two are not the same
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1005 @ 0.00063655 = 0.6397 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2805 @ 0.00063654 = 1.7855 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063654 = 3.1827 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11190 @ 0.00063653 = 7.1228 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: remember, back in aug and even sept peoplethought bfl delivers 1st batch in oct
mod6: yeah. there were massive bets and everything iirc.
mjr_: i am not at all interested in mining hardware speculation, if they deliver they deliver
mjr_: so my point is that the revenue they bring in and the dividends they pay is way more likely to change the share price than the price of btc at the moment
mod6: its a joke from the Dell commericals
mjr_: dell is being taken private
mjr_: btc/usd could affect that but that remains to be seen
mircea_popescu: i never quite understood this taking private business.
mjr_: buying back all its shares
mjr_: oh, i love the idea
mod6: they must have some awful shit on the books, or they couldn't get it to an attractive price for a buyer, otherwise why take it private?
mjr_: no more worrying about what analysts have to say
mjr_: you can think long term
mircea_popescu: mod6 i suspect they have some wicked tax avoidance idea they'll tery
mjr_: without worrying about pissing people off every quarter
mjr_: public companies divorce the interest of the company from the interest of the owner
mjr_: ie. it may be best to invest ahead of the growth curve for a while, take a loss, for future gain
mod6: mircea_popescu: could be. lot of companies upped their dividened payments before the end of '12 to front-run the up coming tax hikes.
mjr_: but convincing joe six pack that you know best about servers or the tech market is too tough
mjr_: they want to see pretty green arrows
mjr_: i know a lot who do
mjr_: but then again it is nyc
mjr_: how many times have i seen a company BEAT earnings and STILL get smoked
mjr_: to try to cater to a fickle market
mjr_: and went down like $50
mjr_: i personally wouldn't bet on direction
mircea_popescu: ya well, netflix didn't have every hipster tard on their wagon
mjr_: get a straddle and just play the volatility
mjr_: still though, i sold a record # of widgets...ok you suck, we don't want your stock
mjr_: but i made more money than you expected
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4410 @ 0.00063653 = 2.8071 BTC [-]
mjr_: i don't care, sell sell sell
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9826 @ 0.00063601 = 6.2494 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2514 @ 0.000636 = 1.5989 BTC [-]
iz: netflix also secured big exclusive contracts with 2 major studios in the future
mircea_popescu: mjr_ the key is if they find a new jobs. they don't, they're dead.
mjr_: irrational markets, focused on short term
mod6: AMZN beat (barely iirc) and it went up a bunch too -- until the following week where exuberance dropped. I think traders were spooked by the -1.0% GDP print... and any good earnings news was like "heaven sent"
mjr_: yeah...that is my point, a private company doesn't worry about spooking anybody
mjr_: you do what you want
iz: there's more data there, than just the earnings
mjr_: what you think is best
iz: so if it seems "irrational", maybe it's just that you haven't seen all the data everyone else has
mjr_: wall street is like a bunch of whiny spoiled children
mjr_: yeah...the prop traders i see...they are super inside
iz: well, i'm glad i could help illustate your point there then :D
mjr_: they are scalping and playing around, they have no idea of fundamentals
mjr_: they are riding the emotions of others
mjr_: to make a penny or two
mjr_: just like an algorithm
mjr_: which doesn't care about any of that
mjr_: i think everyone gives these people WAY too much credit
mjr_: in fact, some of them just buy and sell at the same price just to make liquidity rebates
mjr_: they could literally not care less about what the company does
mjr_: institutional investors are different
mjr_: they are a lot smarter, but still, driven by emotion to some degree
mircea_popescu: reason and emotion use the same circuitry but different heuristics is all
mircea_popescu: not really as fundamentally different as people paint em
mjr_: selling because you see red is dumb
mjr_: and i see a lot of people do that
mjr_: it is counter to normal
mjr_: when many are selling you should buy
mjr_: and when many are buying you should sell
mircea_popescu: advisors are actually telling people like stanford to sell when price goes down, and the more it goes down the more to sell
mjr_: i have seen people call up to check a position
mjr_: and i say you want me to flatten it?
mjr_: the people will say no...don't sell
mjr_: they wait till they lose their profit and are down and then they sell
mjr_: because you want to own something that is profitable and you don't want to own something that is down
mjr_: exactly opposite of what you should do
mjr_: which is buy low sell high
mjr_: i'm down 4% on MPOE, i am going to double my position
mircea_popescu: ya well, you don't know if it ever recovers is their idea
mjr_: but what they end up doing is buying at the top of the hill and selling at the bottom
mircea_popescu: depends. some things actually go out. that's why i picked leh.
mjr_: cuz they get scared
mircea_popescu: and at that time, citi and boa seemed primed for the same fate iirc.
mjr_: even goldman had rumors of failure
mjr_: i'm actually reading "too big to fail" right now
mircea_popescu: cause "everyone" knew if it comes to it fed is going to pick jpm to save
mjr_: bailout was a very dirty word back then
mjr_: should still be IMO
mjr_: bankers are scumbags
mjr_: for the most part, no offense to any bankers
mjr_: but seriously, you get the upside, we get the downside
mjr_: great work if you can get it
mjr_: hehehe, it is fun trying to front run people :)
mjr_: love jumping in front of a wall
mjr_: by the way, bitfloor is my new favorite exchange
mjr_: i got my money in there in a half hour with no ID, and i think a $2 fee
DeadWeasel: nice, i just reg'd last night. didn't have time to explore.
mjr_: the bank of america option is the way to go
mjr_: if you have one by you
mjr_: literally half hour
mjr_: and roman who runs it emailed me when i asked how long within 5 min
mjr_: also...nice big spreads
mjr_: i'm just market making for fun right now
mjr_: think it's like a .35 spread
DeadWeasel: good security? safe to keep btc there?
mircea_popescu: DeadWeasel they had a breach and currently owe the customerbase btc
mircea_popescu: so, i wouldn't keep btc there. but if you're ok with the risk, hey.
DeadWeasel: well, i'll just watch for now, thanks mircea_popescu
mjr_: yeah, i don't know if i will leave btc overnight
mjr_: but, the guy is trying to pay back at least
mjr_: and i think he has started
mjr_: i mean, for me...i can drop off cash on the corner, have it in the account in a half hour, get PAID to trade (liquidity rebates) and don't have to use Mt. Gox (best reason)
mjr_: so, maybe a little riskier, but also i've emailed the guy and erik said he is a good guy, so i feel somewhat comfortable with it
mjr_: not that he vouched in any way
mjr_: yeah, his platform is nice
mjr_: i kinda want to help bring volume for many reasons
mjr_: he will be able to pay back if he collects more revenue
mjr_: i think having 80% of volume go through mt.gox is insane
mjr_: he is local and doesn't require id
mjr_: and he gives liquidity rebates...
mjr_: handles FIX messages in his API
mjr_: well ID to withdraw cash
mjr_: but i can drop off anonymously
mjr_: and i have no interest in cash
mjr_: oh they advertise 80%
mjr_: well...to be fair they say july 2011
mjr_: i think a bunch of small local exchanges is better for the ecosystem
mjr_: and i find their limits and fees onerous
mjr_: their process is byzantine to me
mjr_: i don't understand the voucher system and why we need an extra layer of annoyance
mircea_popescu: im curious how the recent bitcoinica drama will unfold.
mjr_: always drama in bitcoinland
mjr_: has anyone used camp bx? they also look really good
DeadWeasel: the bot has changed his amount to .13 and is putting downward pressure on BTC price.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.41728, Best ask: 26.42859, Bid-ask spread: 0.01131, Last trade: 26.42859, 24 hour volume: 143011.50114582, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.67000, 24 hour vwap: 25.04569
DeadWeasel: the one I assume is a bot because I see a .13 sell every 6 or 8 transactions, sometimes 3 in a row at .002 less than the last.
DeadWeasel: seems like a bot,i've got no way to know.
mjr_: also...i find that these exchanges are much easier to arb
mjr_: look at bitfloor and then look at camp bx
mjr_: 10 coins for sale at 26.65
B0g4r7_: I'll buy your 10 coins for $26.65.
mjr_: can buy at 26.40 on bitfloor
mjr_: i'm showing the arbitrage opportunity that exists right now
B0g4r7_: Oh, you meant $26.65 each. ;P
mjr_: gotta get to work on my bot
B0g4r7_: I had the beginnings of a bot.
mjr_: cuz i can transfer between these two relatively easily
mjr_: it was just a spread finder
mjr_: if the spread was larger than the fees it would market make
B0g4r7_: I was pleased to discover that once I had it talking to one exchange's API, it "just worked" with 3 others with no changes.
mjr_: i wish i could trust btc-e
mjr_: they have the best prices always i think
mjr_: i don't use mt. gox
mjr_: i've used bitinstant, local, bitfloor, and soon camp bx
B0g4r7_: I used btc-e a couple times to exchange for LTC. Had no issues.
mjr_: just seems to hard for me personally to get money all the way there
mjr_: i want to move fast
mjr_: i just got btc in camp bx now
mjr_: so i can take advantage of that offer sitting on the books
mjr_: and they let you send hidden orders *drool*
mjr_: so much easier to front run :) i gotta get to work on this bot
mod6: laaaaaaag zapped me out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00063973 = 4.0943 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1968 @ 0.00064034 = 1.2602 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.88167, Best ask: 26.91933, Bid-ask spread: 0.03766, Last trade: 27.00000, 24 hour volume: 148547.21940210, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.03987, 24 hour vwap: 25.12082
gribble: 1 BTC = 27.00000 U.S. dollars = 20.2596233 Euros
Bugpowder: Ireally managed tofuck up my best trade ever
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P240T] 1000 @ 0.05712394 = 57.1239 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P250T] 1000 @ 0.07274391 = 72.7439 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P260T] 1000 @ 0.09149325 = 91.4933 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.09800, Best ask: 27.17804, Bid-ask spread: 0.08004, Last trade: 27.23334, 24 hour volume: 151359.26250357, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.25000, 24 hour vwap: 25.15996
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 26.5 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 27.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 10647.286 bitcoins offered at or under 28.0 USD, worth 294253.35604 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 13698.669 bitcoins offered at or under 29.0 USD, worth 381539.936416 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
DeadWeasel: thank you for saying that, i always get itchy trigger finger in these wild swings. I'm such an emotional woman
mjr_: i love these exchanges
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.723 = 3.615 BTC [-]
burnside: <Bugpowder_> picking out apartments in santa monica
burnside: Bugpowder - you live in Santa Monica?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.0063 = 0.0315 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.07455, Best ask: 27.08704, Bid-ask spread: 0.01249, Last trade: 27.24000, 24 hour volume: 153179.59959284, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.25000, 24 hour vwap: 25.18652
DeadWeasel: 12K to 28. Everyone expect a big drop at 30?
DeadWeasel: i know we don't know, but what does your gut expect/
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.20000, Best ask: 27.22800, Bid-ask spread: 0.02800, Last trade: 27.20000, 24 hour volume: 153518.46183669, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.25000, 24 hour vwap: 25.19122
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P260T] 1000 @ 0.08972507 = 89.7251 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P250T] 1000 @ 0.07128309 = 71.2831 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P240T] 1000 @ 0.05592943 = 55.9294 BTC [-]
maximian: This will make a news splash for sure
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 1000 @ 0.04308293 = 43.0829 BTC [-]
mjr_: why is there going to be a dump?
jurov: a day ago or so 250k ask wall shortly appeared on mtgox
jurov: if it wasn't shoped, it's likely it's perparing for dump
Lyspooner: i'm trying to buy reddit gold with my bitcoin gems. someone help!
gribble: (sell <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a sell order for <amount> units of <thing, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask|bid|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also include expression of (1 more message)
gribble: Error: "bc,sell" is not a valid command.
mjr_: oh wow, so asicminer is doing good i guess
mircea_popescu: and if indeed they have 12th it will be 16th in btcguild out of 37th total
mircea_popescu: Network total 23.541 Thash/s atm, which is even worse.
mircea_popescu: and makes the 2th figure look like shenanigans really.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.25414, Best ask: 27.30710, Bid-ask spread: 0.05296, Last trade: 27.50000, 24 hour volume: 157549.28385180, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.50000, 24 hour vwap: 25.25535
gribble: 1 BTC = 27.50000 U.S. dollars = 20.6348015 Euros
maximian: I think with this news, it's going to $30 for sure
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.0006375 = 3.9844 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.000637 = 7.2937 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00627988 = 3.1399 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00628 = 4.082 BTC [+]
mod6: ;;market --sell 250000
gribble: A market order to sell 250000 bitcoins right now would net 3327608.8468 USD and would take the last price down to 2.2000 USD, resulting in an average price of 13.3104 USD/BTC.
mod6: wow. if that happens, i be buying.
jurov: reddit lulz "67117 identity reviled, it's asicminer"
mjr_: reddit just started accepting bitcoins
mjr_: going through coinbase
mjr_: so now, if every redditor at least just sees the option if they go to pay
mjr_: they will at least think, oh that's a thing
mjr_: could be big publicity
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.739 = 3.695 BTC [+]
mjr_: it makes sense for them
mjr_: even just offering the option...
mjr_: gonna start an email campaign...now
maximian: perhaps the most important news event since the Silk Road story on Gawker
nanotube: what's this, reddit takes bitcoins now? nice :)
mjr_: i'm sure not everyone even uses reddit gold
mjr_: and those that do may not even choose to use btc
mjr_: but at least they will have heard of it now
mjr_: i think if many people push to get online content providers to offer it
mjr_: netflix, hulu plus, spotify, pandora, etc
mjr_: that would be very nice
mjr_: and it fits in very well with their model
mjr_: though it would be nice if there was a wallet that did recurring payments
nanotube: mjr_: cool. /me doesn't use reddit, but i hear it's pretty big.
nanotube: also, wallet with recurring payments... that's called a cronjob :D
maximian: bitcoin sentiment is shifting from "lolz… monopoly money" to "wtf? really?"
mjr_: yeah, the bitcoin channel is ok, though not super smart financially speaking
nanotube: though really i'm not sure i'd want to do any recurring payments automatically.
mjr_: and i know cron jobs :( so like i said we need a wallet with recurring payments
nanotube: there's a protocol being developed for payment requests and receipts and stuff, that would probably be pretty good for it.
mjr_: just saying that would be a great feature to offer a netflix
mjr_: they love recurring monthly stuff vs they have to choose to pay each month
nanotube: yes, it's good for the seller, bad for the buyer....
nanotube: (i.e., a lot of those guys count on people forgetting to cancel)
mjr_: yeah, i mean, that is kinda on the buyer
mjr_: you don't like, you cancel
mjr_: but, i kinda appreciate not having to think about netflix, just automatically take my $7...if i had to call or actually do something...probably wouldn't be worth the effort
mjr_: by the way...notice that reddit went through coinbase...
mjr_: i think they will do better as online wallet/vendor support than as actual bitcoin exchange
mjr_: TBH, it is my second least favorite method after mt gox
mjr_: is there a way to tweet a bitcoin at someone?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006394 = 2.7628 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14779 @ 0.00063957 = 9.4522 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.50000, Best ask: 27.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 26.50000, 24 hour volume: 162182.55852551, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 25.32592
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3517 @ 0.00063744 = 2.2419 BTC [-]
mjr_: so i went to suggest to netflix
mjr_: had to live chat cuz i couldn't find an email address
mjr_: he said they don't have one for suggestions
mjr_: but that he could relay my suggestion
mjr_: so i said my first suggestion is that you get an email address for suggestions
mjr_: second suggestion, accept bitcoins
mjr_: well...i want to be able to try and get a bunch of people to email
mjr_: cuz getting them to chat with jason will be tougher
mjr_: i had the time and thought this guy would be like wtf
mjr_: he was like, ah i haven't heard of that in a while
mod6: it seems like every new leg up is met with a round of selling though. and it marches on...
mjr_: saw a great article on the rally
pigeons: jurov: the wall wasn't shopped, i saw it
pigeons: i dont think bitcoinmagazine links are allowed in here
mjr_: this time (i believe) it is based on greater adoption and publicity
mjr_: did not realize that
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21 @ 0.00063957 = 0.0134 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2353 @ 0.00064037 = 1.5068 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00064051 = 0.6405 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9326 @ 0.00064052 = 5.9735 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Market prediction is a difficult thing; if it were easy, Bitcoin would have immediately jumped all the way to some final price back in 2009. Perhaps the best strategy for most of us is to simply wait and see."
mircea_popescu: ironically... that's what apparently happened to s.mpoe.
mjr_: anyway, by any metric you choose, they are growing everywhere, blog mentions, google trends, SR users, SR items for sale, overall volume
mircea_popescu: it went way up and since then it's been roughly stable
mjr_: no one can predict and i don't even want to
mjr_: but i can see baseless tulip stuff vs growing interest
mircea_popescu: " It's just a neat piece for people to talk about to feel tapped into the pulse of the Internet without actually having to do it. "You hear about that internet currency? Yeah it's pretty neat huh" and that's the end of it. It's just a filler piece, a blurb, not really a publicity piece.
mircea_popescu: There's nothing actually newsworthy about bitcoin at this point except in drug law and so on. Drugs aren't really "in" right now in the news cycle. Now, if someone started selling unregistered guns with extended magazines using bitcoin. . ."
mjr_: is that counting other exchanges and coinbase?
mircea_popescu: "When this bubble bursts it won't be newsworthy because nothing of importance will be lost. There will be a few articles on Gawker or whatever but nobody will really report on this. Bitcoin will die slowly, fading into obscurity as the last true believer tries to tell his son with his dying breath "there's always money in the bitcoin shack," not realizing his son mothballed that loving shack years ago because it was st
mircea_popescu: upid makework and the solar panels powering it could be used for something fruitful."
mjr_: i mean, changing the world and the financial systems, giving people a more democratic method of payment, giving them power...that is all well and good...i really just want to see SA cry
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064049 = 2.7676 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006405 = 2.7676 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6125 @ 0.00064052 = 3.9232 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00064108 = 7.3083 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6380 @ 0.00064182 = 4.0948 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4553 @ 0.00064311 = 2.9281 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it's their interwebs forum, they can cry if they want to .
mircea_popescu: "I really hope asicminer brings all their stuff online, takes control of the network and pushes all the other mining pools out of existence by increasing the difficulty beyond profitability for anyone without their own ASICs. People desert Bitcoin in droves, the price crashes and ASIC owners are left holding the bag of worthless Bitcoins and useless, expensive hardware."
mod6: yeah. these guys have epic amounts of butthurt.
mod6: this is all stuff from SA huh?
mircea_popescu: Someone did the math some minutes ago on the BFL chat how much a single Jalapeno would earn per day if everyone rolls out as intended and the difficulty matches that hashrate.
mircea_popescu: It's "0.025152 - 0.037728" BTC per day. Yup, your 150$ device makes 4 to 6 cent a day (at pre bubble burst prices).
mircea_popescu: which is somewhat not surprising, i guess they're mostly the liberal arts/community college folks with a lot of debt and degrees in whore/nigger studies right ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.74 = 2.96 BTC [+]
mjr_: they are only going to have half the hashing power of the avalons
mircea_popescu: if indeed avalon delivers anything eventually then its kinda perfect that asicminer came online first
mjr_: avalon has been online
mjr_: i saw one in person
mircea_popescu: nah, they sent like 60 units which are awol/possibly confiscated/stuck in customs/who knows
mjr_: watched it hash, (well not actually the bits, but it was on)
mjr_: yeah the first batch is not "wild" yet
mjr_: will BFL ever deliver
mircea_popescu: actually im kind of curious if inaba REALLY thinks he;ll be able to walk away from the eventual bfl blow up
mjr_: do you know what exchange asicminer is going to be on?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.999999 BTC [-]
Lyspooner: when did those 23, 24, 25, 26 puts trade mircea_popescu
mjr_: think idiff futures are a good call?
mircea_popescu: i imagine sooner or later someone competent - maybe a miner - will start mming them
mjr_: at current price, we may have broken 300 mil
mjr_: 280 using average which is around 25
mjr_: think there is at least another 20 mil for $2....
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.95326, Best ask: 26.99997, Bid-ask spread: 0.04671, Last trade: 26.95326, 24 hour volume: 162515.40000499, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 25.34225
mjr_: no, not using vwap, using mt gox last i meant
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner don't hate, i bought some homeless chicks pizzas with bitcoins like yest.
Lyspooner: some homeless chicks' pizzas more like it
mjr_: yeah, think a few of them want out of the eurozone
mod6: i was wondering if you used the pizza.itradebtc.com thingy
Lyspooner: i did pizzaforbitcoins, it is worthless