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truffles: im a friendly person
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.759 = 7.59 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.76 = 6.08 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00556183 / 0.00606203 / 0.0064 (49421 shares, 299.59 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00571766 / 0.00739498 (4354487 shares, 24,897.50 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00556178 / 0.0075 (8437874 shares, 46,929.61 BTC)
mircea_popescu: ;;calc (0.76 - 0.00606203 * 100 * 95/100) * 18
gribble: 3.3139287
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.76 = 7.6 BTC [+]
truffles: mp i am friendly!
truffles: there are less ppl in here so obv i type here
truffles: betting like half the ppl read the comments
midnightmagic: that's.. kind of creepy.
midnightmagic: "13:56 < truffles> def gonna stalk that guy damit"
mircea_popescu: so you're friendly, good for you. what of it ?
truffles: u laughed meaning u didnt believe me
truffles: i called it very interested midnightmagic
truffles: -ed
mircea_popescu: most stuff happening in this channel is not related to you.
mircea_popescu: i laughed at the price insanity.
truffles: ok
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11903 @ 0.00062683 = 7.4612 BTC [-]
truffles: midnightmagic, dont u get the feeling bitcoiners are in a cult
midnightmagic: truffles: I get the feeling people looking in think it's a cult because the idea is strong enough to change minds. I also think people think all the psychopaths sniffing around the edges trying to fleece victims aren't doing us any favours, nor idiotic sites like silk road.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00062944 = 7.1127 BTC [+]
truffles: i hear all the talk about sticking it to the system but can it
truffles: what about all the ppl without computers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00062944 = 5.004 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00063265 = 3.353 BTC [+]
kakobreklaa: they got mobiles.
truffles: all the rich ppl can buy fast pcs and get most of the rewards
kakobreklaa: the what
truffles: btc
mircea_popescu: ok this is enough of that.
kakobreklaa: id guess you are on his ignore list by now.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00063521 = 1.9056 BTC [+]
kakobreklaa: i think its cute.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00062683 = 6.2996 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19568 @ 0.00062675 = 12.2642 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1032 @ 0.00062656 = 0.6466 BTC [-]
pigeons: truffles: this is old, we dont want to hear it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8673 @ 0.00062656 = 5.4342 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8061 @ 0.00062628 = 5.0484 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00062628 = 0.0626 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10 @ 0.00062628 = 0.0063 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10 @ 0.00062628 = 0.0063 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10 @ 0.00062628 = 0.0063 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10 @ 0.00062628 = 0.0063 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1226 @ 0.00062608 = 0.7676 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00063136 = 1.7047 BTC [+]
jurov: lol that were my lil testing orders
jurov: at least no need to remove them now
jurov: truffles, how much do you want to pay for some juicy bit of history?
jurov: i'm sure i can dig something
jurov: payment accepted. so i present you this snippet featuring mircea_popescu: http://bash.org/?953990
mircea_popescu: Quote #953990 is pending moderation. ?
mircea_popescu: shenanigans, i call them.
jurov: he got equivalent value for air btcs.
jurov: but once it will get unmoderated, it's really #bitcoin-assets quote, i've added myself
mircea_popescu: http://mywabashvalley.com/fulltext?nxd_id=292862
mircea_popescu: the news from indiana.
Bugpowder_: did u see the coffee enema addicts from florida?
Bugpowder_: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.48786, Best ask: 24.52214, Bid-ask spread: 0.03428, Last trade: 24.43271, 24 hour volume: 29403.49796069, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 24.54000, 24 hour vwap: 24.09918
jurov: lol http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/02/11/elon-musk-calls-nytimes-review-of-the-tesla-model-s-fake-citing-vehicle-log-data-as-proof/
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder_ yah
mircea_popescu: jurov omg they shoud be in bitcoin
mircea_popescu: delishious drama
jurov: yeah, maybe the reporter was btc miner and drained the battery :DD
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
mircea_popescu: HASHING TESLA!
mircea_popescu: giving pool hopping a whole new mining.
Bugpowder_: lol
mircea_popescu: inb4 it turns out the tesla logging stuff had a bug in it
mircea_popescu: wait
jurov: wait what?
mircea_popescu: nm lol
jurov: http://baselinescenario.com/2013/02/09/the-importance-of-excel/
jurov: my brother does even industry energy calculations in excel
jurov: recently asked me about help importing 500k data points from some measurements
mircea_popescu: why excel
jurov: cause excel. whole article/discussion is about that.
jurov: after a while i gave up and did it for him in perl
mircea_popescu: “After subtracting the old rate from the new rate, the spreadsheet divided by their sum instead of their average, as the modeler had intended. This error likely had the effect of muting volatility by a factor of two and of lowering the VaR . . .”
mircea_popescu: juicy.
kakobreklaa: ;;bc,convert eur
gribble: 1 BTC = 24.61000 U.S. dollars = 18.3793876 Euros
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.56393, Best ask: 24.61000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04607, Last trade: 24.61000, 24 hour volume: 30001.60733989, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 24.61000, 24 hour vwap: 24.11142
jurov: nice
mircea_popescu: Microsoft Excel is one of the greatest, most powerful, most important software applications of all time.**
mircea_popescu: what the fuck.
mircea_popescu: who writes this shit.
mircea_popescu: dude. gcc is one of the greatest, more powerful, most important software "applications", w/e that means, of all time.
jurov: sadly it's the opinion of most everybody, really
mircea_popescu: vi. emacs. gnupg.
mircea_popescu: fuck excell. what's it even for ?!
mircea_popescu: vaguely related, http://trilema.com/2012/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain/
mircea_popescu: incidentally, "Wall Street doesn't have a great recent history with outside reviews either. JPMorgan and other banks recently shut down external reviews of their foreclosure practices"
mircea_popescu: it's not just mpex!
pigeons: excel is a program to read microsoft's proprietary binary version of csv files
pigeons: oh yeah the newer ones are allegedly xml
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/why-mpex-is-better-than-fiat-institutions-part-349085-we-dont-use-excel/
mircea_popescu: all the juicy details of jpmorgan's embarassment included.
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.dice
Bugpowder_: come back assbot
mircea_popescu: http://mpex.co/faq_pe.html
mircea_popescu: check this shit out, mpex faq in farsi
Bugpowder_: u should get it in arabi
Bugpowder_: c
Bugpowder_: This site feels really professional now. I think I can invest now.
mircea_popescu: i will get it in arabic
mod6: the farsi looks awesome
mod6: not that i know what it says, lol. but it /looks/ awesome
mircea_popescu: it does
mircea_popescu: both chinese and persian are actually very aesthetically pleasing notations
pizzaman1337: I hate how that language is aligned to the right side
mircea_popescu: well it;s one of thiose
mircea_popescu: speakingof which, the one i really have to get is hebrew
mircea_popescu: AND idish
pigeons: how do you say "idiot" in farsi?
jcpham: <cough>
mircea_popescu: he coped out, said "stupids"
mircea_popescu: مردم احمق
mod6: haha
mircea_popescu: احمق being stoopid
pigeons: hey, my tatoo artist told me that meant "brave warrior"
mircea_popescu: seems accurate.
DeadWeasel: ;;slap eskimobob
DeadWeas1l: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.51079, Best ask: 24.54000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02921, Last trade: 24.51079, 24 hour volume: 31430.66254096, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 24.67503, 24 hour vwap: 24.16444
DeadWeasel: ;;asks 25
gribble: There are currently 9260.6569 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 229947.752117 USD in total.
DeadWeasel: ;;bids 24.5
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 24.5 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
DeadWeasel: ;;bids 24
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell evoorhees https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77870.msg1520259#msg1520259 he has a point there
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: There are currently 2032.1217 bitcoins demanded at or over 24.0 USD, worth 49120.3990789 USD in total.
DeadWeasel: ;;bids 23
gribble: There are currently 10428.055 bitcoins demanded at or over 23.0 USD, worth 245554.642353 USD in total.
DeadWeasel: ;;bids 24
gribble: There are currently 1774.9244 bitcoins demanded at or over 24.0 USD, worth 42951.1478531 USD in total.
pigeons: http://i.imgur.com/FO5bs3O.png
kakobreklaa: lol
mircea_popescu: ahaha nowai ?
DeadWeasel: who is that woman? i see here everyone online
DeadWeasel: everwhere*
mircea_popescu: that's the fearsome mpoe-pr
pigeons: picture from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92969.msg1519140#msg1519140
DeadWeasel: that your PR front MP?
mircea_popescu: my pr, yes.
DeadWeasel: it couldn't hurt.
pigeons: heh, you would think
pigeons: if you were to just guess
DeadWeasel: i'm a great guesser.
pigeons: apparently not
DeadWeasel: bam!
DeadWeasel: hard to argue with an idiot, eh?
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13606324795.jpg have a prize
DeadWeasel: plastic wrapped. that must mean they're fresh
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.44617, Best ask: 24.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05383, Last trade: 24.44617, 24 hour volume: 31371.13774248, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 24.67503, 24 hour vwap: 24.18070
gabridome: !help
mircea_popescu: gabridome what are you trying to do ?
gabridome: hi just to obtain command help..
mircea_popescu: i don't think assbot has a help implemented.
mircea_popescu: pretty much what it does is
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.mpoe
mircea_popescu: sort of thing
mircea_popescu: gribble is
mircea_popescu: ;;help
gribble: The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
gabridome: thanks
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bugpowder http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/11/article-2276884-17841A9A000005DC-22_634x815.jpg
gribble: The operation succeeded.
Namworld: http://namcdn.com/btcalarm/
Namworld: @mircea
Namworld: A new tool to have an eye on price 24/7 for trading options
mircea_popescu: lol kinda cool.
ThickerThanThiev: $25.20
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/225/bitcoin-to-surpass-gold-value-in-2013/
mircea_popescu: that's a pretty interestin bet...
Namworld: per gram/oz/kg?
BitHub: go with no on that one
Namworld: because per gram, maybe
mircea_popescu: per 31ths of ounce comex price
BitHub: doubtful
mircea_popescu: atm its 2:3
mircea_popescu: hence interesting
Bowjob: 25 dollars
BitHub: so it is per gram?
Bowjob: holy shit
Namworld: ah, then yeah
mircea_popescu: it's per 1/31th of ounce
mircea_popescu: so practically grams yea
BitHub: yes 31 grams in a troy ounce
mircea_popescu: 31.1
BitHub: why don't they just say that
mircea_popescu: prolly lazy
mircea_popescu: also gold grams aren't really priced anywherew
BitHub: create confusion
Bowjob: So.. where are the bears
mircea_popescu: what's gold atm, 1650 ?
BitHub: around 50 a gram or something
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1650 / 31
gribble: 53.2258064516
mircea_popescu: ya
BitHub: it could beat it
mircea_popescu: http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/02/11/cnn-anchor-blames-asteroid-on-global-warming/
BitHub: does it just have to go over it, or by end of year it has to be over it?
mircea_popescu: this has to be the last word in libertard lmao
Namworld: Well anyway, I'm out
Namworld: goodbye
mircea_popescu: sleep tight
ThickerThanThiev: adios
Bowjob: at this rate, we
Bowjob: w'd see 3 digits
Bowjob: soon
mircea_popescu: i love bitcoin, it fucks over people's sleep.
Bowjob: yah
Bowjob: 25 dollars
Bowjob: holy shit
Bowjob: i shoulda dumped at least 10k on this thing
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.28000, Best ask: 25.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 25.30000, 24 hour volume: 38689.86085846, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 25.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.44526
ThickerThanThiev: look at the goxlive
Bowjob: woulda been ballsy
mircea_popescu: well, shoulda coulda woulda...
mircea_popescu: prolly too late by now
mircea_popescu: or is it ?
ThickerThanThiev: http://mtgoxlive.com/orders
Bowjob: ooh
Bowjob: id be damned if btc reaches 1k
Bowjob: ea'
Bowjob: O_O
mircea_popescu: 30 looks possible.
Bowjob: id be a lazy fat cat
Bowjob: if that happens
mircea_popescu: i'll prolly be having dinners at the white house, if tht happens
Bowjob: so mp, hows the trolling contest no
Bowjob: w
Bowjob: anything notable?
mircea_popescu: well... so far buncha sa selfowning
Bowjob: that forum looks disgusting
mircea_popescu: but nothing substantial.
mircea_popescu: they're basically a buncha bitcoiners w/o bitcoin
mircea_popescu: but with equal faith in collectivism, being nice and whatnot
Bowjob: lol
mircea_popescu: a, and the various craps du jour. helping fags, women, niggers etc.
mircea_popescu: saving da planet, and whales
mircea_popescu: i forget what all is on the list.
Bowjob: mp for prez
mircea_popescu: lol noty.
Bowjob: u dont really have to do much just play gold
Bowjob: golf
mircea_popescu: i dont like golf.
mircea_popescu: i'd much rather just walk in a town than on a pasture.
mircea_popescu: hey kakobreklaa, would it be possible for assbot to have a !last x y which'd replay the last trade of y on x ?
Bowjob: buying a 1 bedroom condo in dt vancouver, 5 BTC pm me
mircea_popescu: 1 bedroom condos ?!
Bowjob: mhm?
Bowjob: yap
mircea_popescu: these seriously exist ?!
Bowjob: yeah
Bowjob: why
mircea_popescu: i thought condo-ing was a sort of upscale affair
Bowjob: I typed 1 bedroom condo in google
Bowjob: it showed an ad in vancouver
Bowjob: maybe its a vancouver thing
Bowjob: here, condos are relatively cheap. detached houses are a million bucks each
mircea_popescu: hey. learn something new everyday
Bowjob: i know in other countries condos are expensive and detatched houses are cheap
mircea_popescu: but yes, seems it's 90% a canada thing
Bowjob: well, here in vancouver the homeowners rent their basement out to pay for mortgage
mircea_popescu: haha literally basement dwellers ?
Bowjob: since no one can pony up a million bucks
Bowjob: yeah
Bowjob: actually we started as basement dwellers.. until we switched to a house
Bowjob: mortgage is insane, 2k a month
Ukto: lol
Ukto: Bowjob: next time I fly out that way, we can meet up
Bowjob: but. parents are paying so im getting a free ride.
Bowjob: i wouldnt buy this house even if i had the money but its pretty nice
Ukto: actually, Bowjob, if your interested, I have someone who is looking to buy weex CAD
Bowjob: btc to cad?
Ukto: actually, he just needs a canuk to deposit cad into weex so he can hold weex cad
Ukto: not sure how he wants to settle up
Ukto: but you would need a bank account at rbc, scotia, td or BoM
Bowjob: Ah. I'm with a credit union
Bowjob: free debit card..
Ukto: ah
Ukto: thanks then. just trying to put people together. :)
Bowjob: td is charging 15 dollars per month for a debit
Bowjob: lol im not really a canuck. i didnt participate in the riots
knotwork: thats insane. Royal gave me a free debit caard that masquerades on the net as a credit card
Bowjob: ooh. they are now charging 2 dollars to deposit paper money .. per 1000
Bowjob: wtf is this
Bowjob: oh wait its business account lol
mircea_popescu: heh the amusements continue i see
mircea_popescu: ;;eauth mircea_popescu
gribble: Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
mircea_popescu: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:756619e2969805ca04cc00f67579d291c815df246f20807f9c7515ea
gribble: Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans
mircea_popescu: ;;rate fbastage -10 Never interacted with the guy. Prolly a scammer per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the rating system.
mircea_popescu: doh ?!
mircea_popescu: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:756619e2969805ca04cc00f67579d291c815df246f20807f9c7515ea
gribble: You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
mircea_popescu: ;;rate fbastage -10 Never interacted with the guy. Prolly a scammer per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user fbastage has been recorded.
BitHub: anybody ever try out mpex, what's it like?
mircea_popescu: ;;rate eskimobob -10 Never interacted with the guy. Prolly a scammer per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user eskimobob has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: heh that's not accurate is it.
Bowjob: i didnt know arabic text is from right to left
mircea_popescu: ;;rate eskimobob -10 #bitcoin-asset's premier angry clueless noob. Prolly a scammer per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user eskimobob has changed from -10 to -10.
mircea_popescu: Bowjob yeah, most middle eastern languages are like that.
mircea_popescu: haha this is rich : lowtax joins btctalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22158
knotwork: If you are pretty confident bitcoins are just going to generally keep going up and up, are options of much use, or are they generally mostly useful if you are uncertain thus want to hedge against your uncertainty?
mircea_popescu: this question presuposes that one's state of mind is more important than reality.
mircea_popescu: this is not the case.
mircea_popescu: however people feel is irrelevant. we don't know for a fact nor is there any clear mathematical proof that btc only goes up.
mircea_popescu: consequently, hedging is both responsible and required.
knotwork: so options are useful to insure against it going down but not a means to increase the profit one is making from it going up?
mjr_: hi all
leotreasure: you can make money going up too
leotreasure: but you usually need to buy below the ask price to have any kind of chance
mjr_: you can also arb the exchanges
mjr_: specifically if you are fast on the other exchanges you can get better than mt. gox
knotwork: thats not options though
mjr_: coinbase is too fast...but especially overnight, if you go on camp bx or bitfloor...people leave their limit orders up and you can get a bunch under $25
knotwork: maybe if one could find someone willing to buy a put at current price you could make money going up due to they wont exercise it
pizzaman1337: btc-e too
BitHub: hey leo, was it you i was talking to about the aud law and stuff?
leotreasure: hey BitHub yes it was
mjr_: but yeah, options are tough, i just got calls so i wouldn't get left behind
mjr_: the 17 strike option was a good deal i think
BitHub: ahh, how did you go, get anymore answers to your questions?
BitHub: i checked out the site today
leotreasure: i'm going to speak with the head lawyer in Sydney in a few weeks
BitHub: where can i donate? :)
mjr_: if you just calculate the breakeven for each of the calls, you can find the "cheapest" one and then watch it rip lol
leotreasure: i haven't started accepting donations officially yet but i guess you could send them here 1LeobZhdhmvQUpcdgF7MExR1CobUygUi5P
mjr_: in my case, yesterday my breakeven for the $17 call was 25.30 i think...
leotreasure: thanks btw :)
BitHub: .5 btc coming up :) keep up the good work
knotwork: what does the $17 even mean if actual breakeven is 25.30 ?
mjr_: well
BitHub: sent :)
mjr_: you are paying for the option to buy bitcoins at $17
mjr_: but if i tell you i will give you that option for $8...
knotwork: and you pay 25.30 minus 17 as fee?
mircea_popescu: knotwork if you sell puits short
mircea_popescu: you do make a lot when it goes up
mjr_: it doesn't make sense to use that option unless they are selling for $17+8
mjr_: no...you are paying $17 (i bought the right to buy a bitcoin for $17) and I paid $8 for that right
knotwork: so the $17 strike options price was $8.30 per coin for the option?
mircea_popescu: take O.BTCUSD.P350T. you can sell it now for 0.43102778
mjr_: around there
mircea_popescu: if btc goes to 36 it's worth 0
mircea_popescu: and so you made 0.43 btc PER
knotwork: or I guess, paid $8 and had an additional fee for the exchange of $0.30
mjr_: nah, i was doing rough estimate
mjr_: i paid...
mjr_: 0.33832578 bitcoins for that option
mjr_: which adds in the extra wrinkle of how do i calculate what i paid for the option
mjr_: do i calculate my average cost of bitcoins, the price at the time of purchase, or the price when i exercise....
mircea_popescu: mjr_ well you have to decide if you keep books in btc or not
mjr_: yeah. it is mainly an accounting decision
mircea_popescu: first off
mircea_popescu: and yes it is.
BitHub: i do it at time of purchase mjr
mircea_popescu: that yields a consolidated sort of gain
mircea_popescu: (value of decision to buy btc + value of decision to buy option) together
mjr_: yeah
mjr_: that makes sense
BitHub: i just write the amount of btc and the amount and the total amount i paid for it at the time.
mjr_: i have to translate back to USD unfortunately
mjr_: because that is how you show ridiculous gains against a failing dollar
BitHub: example 50 btc 1000 aud
BitHub: at the time or purchase
BitHub: of
mircea_popescu: mjr_ the excruciatingly precise way to do it would be to keep separate accounts.
mjr_: k
mircea_popescu: then do vwap price when you buy, actual price you bought at
mjr_: yeah true
mircea_popescu: then when you do options value btc in then-current vwap and add difference to acct
mircea_popescu: etc
mjr_: ugh, i was an accounting major, but i don't do that now because it aint fun
BitHub: keep it in fiat figures
BitHub: easier
mircea_popescu: you end up with an account plan doing a. btc buying slippage gain/loss ; b. overtime btc gain/loss ; c. option entry/exit gain/loss
knotwork: how much were bitcoins price when people paid $8 for option to buy them for $17 ?
mircea_popescu: so 3 accounts
mjr_: yeah
mjr_: i believe when i bought the option bitcoin was around $24/1btc
mjr_: but even so...this is a matter of precision...
mircea_popescu: indeed.
mjr_: i think it will hit 30 by the end of the month (last friday)
mircea_popescu: back when btc was about 14/each an option struck at 15 would have cost about .15 btc say, roughly, so like 2 dollars.
mjr_: so i am just quibbling over how much percent i will make lol
mircea_popescu: now it's worth 10 bucks each, +400%
knotwork: so at buying coin for $17 at that moment woud only have cost you $7 (over the 17) instead of the 8 you paid for mere option?
mjr_: you can even do it as a constantly changing variable
mircea_popescu: knotwork yes.
mircea_popescu: options contain a premium obviously. being options.
knotwork: weird so why not just buy the damn coin instead of the option?
mircea_popescu: because if they go down you lose.
mircea_popescu: he paid the extra whatever , 50 cents, a dollar, to insure his 17 capital out of the 24 against the possibility of loss
mircea_popescu: if you buy 1 btc at 24, then you risk 24. if you buy 1 btc synthetically via an option at 8, you risk only the 8.
mjr_: like profit = current exchange price - (strike + cost of option at current exchange)
knotwork: ok, and seller gets $8 instead of 7 but faces loss if they go down instead of up
mircea_popescu: yup
mircea_popescu: so in this sense it can work as leverage, even as high as 10`000%
mircea_popescu: which is why people were lolling at people who lost their stuff in bitcoinica.
knotwork: but with options the guy you sell them to is going to exercise them at just the worst moment for the seller
mircea_popescu: possibly.
knotwork: whereas owning the coins you dont care if they go down if you "know" its just a matter of time before they go back up, aks that the momentary down is just momentary
knotwork: with options that momentary down is where buyer will nail you
mircea_popescu: it does use the 24 hour avg price tho
mircea_popescu: so it has to be really down not just spot down
knotwork: so buyer just needs to manipulate the oracle into reportying a momentary low and exercise
mircea_popescu: and in any event it's better than bitcoinica-style forced liquidation event.
mjr_: also
knotwork: oh ok average helps make oracle resistant to maniulating to some extent
mircea_popescu: kinda hard to manipulate the 24 hour average.
mjr_: they may not exercise when it's worst
mjr_: since they can't kinow that
mircea_popescu: yeah, they may think it will go even lower.
mjr_: if i could pick bottoms and tops, i would be a billionaire
knotwork: oh right
mircea_popescu: exactly. it's a market after all.
mircea_popescu: they can't go retroactively and say i buy here i sell there
mjr_: yeah, more than likely, they will wait and if it turns around they will exercise there
mjr_: missing a little profit
mircea_popescu: mjr_ and THEN it collapses
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: and they kick themselves
mircea_popescu: this channel log is full of such adventures
mjr_: lol true
mircea_popescu: not just optiopns, stocks too etc.
mjr_: look at apple
mircea_popescu: yah
mircea_popescu: market is market.
mjr_: that is a perfect example of not being able to find tops or bottoms
mjr_: some peple sold apple at $25 and thought they were genius's
mjr_: others bought at 699 thinking it couldn't go down
mircea_popescu: lol
mjr_: the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent
mircea_popescu: that's not actually true. for instance all of asicminer is like 50-100k btc.
mjr_: anyways, with my call, which is my favorite single legged strategy, i will prob just let it auto exercise at the end of the month
mircea_popescu: it can't outsolventize me.
mircea_popescu: however, this is the #1 risk i face. one day it will be the case, and ima try not to get fucked then.
mjr_: that is true
mjr_: yeah
knotwork: by selling the right kind(s) of options can you ensure you never actually lose what you had, worst loss you could have is just not making as much as you might have if if you hadnt sold those options?
mjr_: but what i said earlier is the reason why "martingaling" doesn't work over the long run
mircea_popescu: knotwork you can lock profits in.
mjr_: yes, or protect against big downsides
mircea_popescu: say you bought calls and they are now up. you can buy puts and pretty much lock it.
mjr_: yes true
mircea_popescu: or if you sold puts short, you can sell calls too
mircea_popescu: or buy them back
mjr_: strangle/straddle
mircea_popescu: it's really very complex/flexible
mjr_: yep, but options strategies are my favorite
mircea_popescu: the only thing is, it needs thinking
mircea_popescu: unlike forexy things where you just mash the buy/sell buttons
mjr_: it's just hard when pretty much i think "it's going up"
mircea_popescu: you need a strategy here
mjr_: well...aren't there options on currency?
mircea_popescu: surely.
knotwork: yeah nice thing about just holding one's coins indefinitely is it doesnt need much/any thought
mircea_popescu: most retail plays forex (and gets scammed)
mircea_popescu: most serious investors do options
mircea_popescu: (like buffett etc)
mircea_popescu: knotwork very true.
mjr_: yes, i would definitely sell calls on the US dollar
knotwork: they went down from $32 but lately its finally looking like they are recovering
mjr_: with a far out enough expiration date
mircea_popescu: mjr_ selling calls on the usd or buying calls on the btc are very similar i think
mjr_: exactly
mjr_: you can describe my positoin as bearish us dollar, or bullish bitcoin
knotwork: I missed opportunities I could have in theory got by selling high and buying back in low but I could not be sure there would ever be a low to buy back in at
mjr_: it is more bullish bitcoin than anything
mircea_popescu: still some decoupling, but as btc mkt cap increases there will be less and less.
mircea_popescu: knotwork exactly.
mjr_: you can conceivably make money still just by market making and arbing different exchanges
mjr_: especially very early in the morning or late at night
mjr_: (though i realize it is global)
pigeons: early morning/late at night where?
mircea_popescu: new york. he does have sorta a point
mjr_: yes...mostly US and europe i would guess
mjr_: i mean...i was watching around 3am NYC
mjr_: you could still scoop up btc for under 25 on camp bx
pigeons: how many though
mjr_: eh, like 10 btc under 25
mircea_popescu: i think arbing the fiat exchanges is more work than it's worth.
mjr_: they are already taken
mjr_: i agree
mircea_popescu: i mean, take the havelock/mpex s.dice difference.
mjr_: not enough volatitliy and razor thin margins cuz of transferring money back and forth
mircea_popescu: there's like, what, 3-4 btc worth to be made arbing that ?
mircea_popescu: i doubt there's 100 bux to be made working campbx/stamp/mtgox/w/e
pigeons: yeah i see high prices at havelock, then i look at the order size, right
mjr_: depends
mjr_: if its a bot...
mircea_popescu: pigeons yest like 28 lots sold at 76
Diablo-D3: http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/virtual-bitcoins-can-now-be-traded-for-dominos-pizza/
mircea_popescu: i think book is deceptive, as btc ppl are very impatient.
pigeons: at dominos? cause i used jjjrmy's bitpizza in 2011
mjr_: yeah, well, i mostly use the strategies i've said to try to get as long as possible, for as little money as possible
knotwork: yeah that is what I'd like to be able to do
mjr_: so if i can scoop up cheap coins on camp bx, or bitfloor, i would, simply cuz i plan on holding them
mjr_: only problem is you multiply CP risk
knotwork: kind of abstractly using my increased riches to buy more bitcoins, without actually spending my bitcoins to do so since they *are* my riches
mjr_: and you have way more accounting to do
Bugpowder: still no assbot
mircea_popescu: sucks.
mircea_popescu: i wonder what the trouble is
knotwork: shorting something else to buy bitcoins might be best maybe, such as borrow some other type of coin using bitcoins as colalteral, and sell what you borrow to buy more bitcoins to use as more collateral etc
Bugpowder: bubbletalk
mircea_popescu: knotwork that's very dangerous.
knotwork: that worked great with devcoins for a while but now devcoins are so crazy cheap its looking dangerous that they might go back up before you pay back the loan
knotwork: now instead its time to buy all those cheap devcoins to pay back the loans
knotwork: and maybe borrow some other coin that seems overpriced or at least not at a crazy low
ThickerThanThiev: that pizza article made it to BBC too
ThickerThanThiev: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21427505
knotwork: borrowing is always dangerous but particularly so for things there arent many of
mircea_popescu: yup
knotwork: as you could end up trapped owing something that you cannot get hold of or not at decent price
pigeons: pizza was the first useful thing you could buy with bitoin
Bugpowder: ;;asks 29
gribble: There are currently 9937.51 bitcoins offered at or under 29.0 USD, worth 266608.244608 USD in total.
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.31000, Best ask: 25.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 25.31000, 24 hour volume: 44738.61190480, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 25.75000, 24 hour vwap: 24.61882
jurov: lol this is insane... just few hours ago i cashed out a bit at 24.21
pigeons: nuts
JWU42: ;;asks 30
gribble: There are currently 17410.07 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 488875.899895 USD in total.
mircea_popescu: jurov i sold 200 btc's worth specifically to rebuy once price tanks back to 20.
mircea_popescu: so far im losing on that idea.
jurov: i have my parents lined up for buying btcs if that happens
knotwork: cashing out at anything less than $100 is more a daytrader thing or a desperately need the cash thing really
JWU42: =)
JWU42: knotwork: huh?
knotwork: tho likely by time it hits $100 that'd have to be changed to "anything less than $150"
jurov: ^exactly
JWU42: so - BTC gets to $95 in 5 years
jurov: or in 5 months
Bugpowder: dat bubble
JWU42: and then something goes batshit bad and BTC goes back to $.01
knotwork: JWU42 daytrader as in hoping it will dip sometime so you can buy back in cheaper
mircea_popescu: knotwork i was trying to play teh daytrader what can i tel lyou.
JWU42: you lose EVERYTHING
JWU42: on paper
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder ikr?
pigeons: if it was .01 i could buy them all
Bugpowder: its fun
Bugpowder: i love bubbles
Bugpowder: reminds me of DNDN
JWU42: well - the only reason it goes to $.01 is that the project is effectively dead and broken
mircea_popescu: all bitcoins in the world for 100k ? sure, i'll take em
mircea_popescu: JWU42 100k is inconsequential irl anyway
JWU42: and for some those odds might be worth it
Bugpowder: it will never go to .01
JWU42: mircea_popescu: for some people 100K is currently 5x their lifetime savings
pigeons: ;;totalbc
gribble: 10770225.0
Bugpowder: maybe 1 if SHTM
Bugpowder: SHTF
knotwork: next time it goes toward $2 it likely wont even get there
JWU42: and that is a growing % of people in the US
jurov: lol i'm looking up the usd/eur rate at bitstamp's bank... and usd isn't there
jurov: so it's here... usd not valid anymore
pigeons: heh
JWU42: no real equity appreciation in a dozen years
mircea_popescu: ya well JWU42 , some people have no business doing btc megaplays either.
Bugpowder: https://www.bitstamp.net/market/order_book/
JWU42: mega is the key word there
JWU42: ;)
mircea_popescu: indeed
JWU42: as the saying goes - pigs get slaughtered
mircea_popescu: if 100k is 5x your life savinfgs you obviously have no place dicking around b uying internet funny moneys for 100k
JWU42: waiting to sell anything until $100 is, to me, piggish
knotwork: its looking likely now that lots of folks will think we are finally recovering to our $32 we were at back before all those hacks hit the fans
JWU42: true there MP
knotwork: so I would not be surprised to see it go to $32 shortly then think about whether to bubble or just gloat a while before continuing up
JWU42: I thought we would stop at 20
mircea_popescu: i think many people are psychologically invested in passing the bubble
JWU42: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
JWU42: still favorable
knotwork: (by whether to bubble I mean whether to shoot on up more, not whether to "burst")
mircea_popescu: so 30-35 is more a reasonable next plateau i guess
ThickerThanThiev: I think there are more and more people putting a portion of the their weekly paycheck into BTC
JWU42: I am selling about 5% at these levels
ThickerThanThiev: propping it up higher and higher
mircea_popescu: BTC prices have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau. I do not feel there will be soon if ever a 50 or 60 point break from present levels, such as (bears) have predicted. I expect to see the BTC market a good deal higher within a few months.
mircea_popescu: there, i jinxed it.
knotwork: yes I think so, if it keeps shooting up as fast when it passes $32 I'll start to think its likely to burst back down to $25 to 32 range
mircea_popescu: http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_01/seymour062001.html there's more famous quotes.
knotwork: seems likely at $32 people will worry that higher might be "just a bubble", and of course some folk will be already thinking it *is* a bubble, so likely should slow the climb around there
ThickerThanThiev: just the fact that we're noting $32 means it's obv people will get skittish at that point
Bugpowder: nah
Bugpowder: this move will violently reverse
Bugpowder: at some point
knotwork: yeah its a famous high imaged to have been a bubble
Bugpowder: retrace 25-50%
Bugpowder: bounce
Bugpowder: resettle
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder there's not really that much btc on the market.
Bugpowder: who knows how high
mircea_popescu: your modelling assumes 50-70% of btc moves.
mircea_popescu: the reality is closer to 5-7%. certainly under 1/4
knotwork: I dont think $32 was really a bubble at all but saying it was plus all the hacks forced it into being one, self fulfilling prophecy
knotwork: I thought $32 was just people realising the potential and pricing it in
Bugpowder: There will be a lot of BTC on the market when the price falls 20% and stays down for more than an hour.
Bugpowder: waterfalllll
mircea_popescu: this is why price moves so much : fiat side can increase 1000% in two weeks on account of very small basis (in fiat terms)
pigeons: jurov: https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/300947007957237760
mircea_popescu: btc side can only move very little to absorb that
mircea_popescu: so price compensates.
knotwork: ever since I have figured it is fundamentally worth more than $32 or at least $32
Bugpowder: to think otherwise is classic bubble delishion
mircea_popescu: and no, either side. people don't sell.
Bugpowder: delusion
mircea_popescu: perhaps.
jurov: pigeons i know, but i'm doing withdrawal not deposit
jurov: if i don't receive it in 2 days i'll let you know
mircea_popescu: ima write this up, brb
jurov: and cross another exchange out of my list
knotwork: if it falls 20% and stays down more than an hour people will be running to get more bucks to exhcanges to buy those cheap coins
ThickerThanThiev: i dont think people are as liquid as that
ThickerThanThiev: "running to get more bucks"
jurov: i'm considering to use this panic to sell bitstamp usd codes :D
jurov: if that happens
jurov: or i'll go by car to slovenia to deposit first lol
kakobreklaa: hmm
kakobreklaa: want to buy bitstamp code?
jurov: not atm, just phantasizing
jurov: over my after-good-lunch coffee
kakobreklaa: maybe there is money to be made here
kakobreklaa: i have my deposits processed same day if im early enough
jurov: kakobreklaa, you have a clue why unicredit bank has no usd rate published?
kakobreklaa: no clue
kakobreklaa: i never checked it there
jurov: http://www.unicreditbank.si/tecajna_lista/?t=1&id_menu=&language=ENG
kakobreklaa: its not too far from what google will say regarding eur usd ratio
kakobreklaa: lol
kakobreklaa: silly
jurov: i know, just i tried to find it for like 15 seconds in vain
knotwork: wow it dipped below $25, buy buy buy! :)
pigeons: the bubble is over! it's going to .02
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.97000, Best ask: 25.07000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 25.07000, 24 hour volume: 47520.26271140, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 25.75000, 24 hour vwap: 24.64565
jurov: perhaps market got aware that mp is cashing out
jurov: :D
kakobreklaa: mp is cashing out!?
kakobreklaa: is it april 1st?
jurov: [13:29] <mircea_popescu> jurov i sold 200 btc's worth specifically to rebuy once price tanks back to 20.
jurov: [13:29] <mircea_popescu> so far im losing on that idea.
kakobreklaa: impossibru!
Ukto: heh, its gonna hit 30
Ukto: promise
Ukto: too much money still flowing in
jurov: it's like bernanke saying he'll change 2k usd to euros. market would panic.
knotwork: finally all the MP-haters can strike back, just keep buying to prevent it ever going down to 20!
mircea_popescu: lol
Ukto: mircea_popescu: HAHA YOU FUCKED UP FINALLY. j/k :P
knotwork: yeah nice psywar move MP
mircea_popescu: what can i say, i don't shit gold
Ukto: damn it, why not
knotwork: hahaha made MP miss out on $1000 by making hs remaining holdngs go up 20+ percent hahaha
pigeons: why would he waste his time thinking about such a paltry sum as 200 btc?
Ukto: is this even a serious conversation? lol
pigeons: ok time to get serious, we're making Ukto sick
jurov: i was not serious (just to stay clear)
pigeons: i'm usually about half-serious/half-joking as a hedge
jurov: humour hedging? what did the world came to
Ukto: pigeons: wanna trade options on humor?
jurov: what will be next? drama futures?
Ukto: dont we already have that?
pigeons: well i used to joke on margin, that didn't turn out well
Ukto: afk
jurov: Ukto, let's create me CoinBr.Drama-E and CoinBr.Drama-E on bf
jurov: *CoinBr.Drama-O
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bugpowder here you go : http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: dude don't tell me my 200 btc comment crashed it ?!
mircea_popescu: you ppl gotta stop listening to me srsly.
wao: :D
wao: mircea_popescu: url
mircea_popescu: wao hm ?
wao: for your 200 btc comment o_O
mircea_popescu: its in the log above neh ?
DeadWeasel: did you break IRC with your inflammatory comments?
mircea_popescu: i ruined everything!!1
knotwork: " Two billion dollars divided by 600`000 Bitcoins comes to three thousand dollars and chance per Bitcoin." --> s/chance/change/ ???
mircea_popescu: oty
knotwork: "Neutral and unengaded governments win" --> s/unengaded/unengaged/ ???
knotwork: "forget all about the Youkon gold rush sometime" --> s/Youcon/Yukon/ ??? Or is you con a deliberate pun?
knotwork: oops I meant s/Youkon/Yukon/
mircea_popescu: hehe the youkon is a joke ya
DeadWeasel: where are these atrocious spelling and grammar mistakes coming from?
DeadWeasel: mircea_popescu: probably your site, you gotta start proofreading. :)
TomServo: unengaded = unengaged?
TomServo: oops, didn't see it had been mentioned - apologies.
DeadWeasel: africans could actually use this, cos most of them are landless, addressesless. Course the don't have any money either.
DeadWeasel: ahahahahahahahha. they kicked all the whites out and 5 years later they are starving.
DeadWeasel: they can't manage their resources
Diablo-D3: >yukon gold
Diablo-D3: mmm potatoes
Diablo-D3: >every1
Diablo-D3: >stupid
Diablo-D3: truffles is an african
DeadWeasel: no way, my step brother is south african. he has a great business.
Diablo-D3: DeadWeasel: but is he black?
DeadWeasel: sorry, brother in law, i'm a little retarded today myself.
DeadWeasel: nope.
DeadWeasel: but he's south african.
Diablo-D3: I can think of at least two south africans who made it big... but they're white
DeadWeasel: i'll ask next time I see him.
Diablo-D3: they have no resources to manage
Diablo-D3: mining? oil? businesses owned by white men.
Diablo-D3: and the coffee industry is also ran by white men
Diablo-D3: I dont blame for most of africa hating people just because they're white
Diablo-D3: they see the color of your skin and know you're evil because thats all they've ever seen
mircea_popescu: DeadWeasel i crowdsource proofreading :D
Diablo-D3: colonial powers ARE white
Bugpowdurr: Japan was a colonial power
Diablo-D3: japan was an imperial power
Diablo-D3: THEY had colonies
mircea_popescu: costa rica is a colonial power
mircea_popescu: it has colones
error4733: he is just a tech
error4733: good luck with that
BitHub: anyone selling any asicminer shares?
BitHub: transfer them to my email adress?
mircea_popescu: i imagine the pain and horror of unwinding all these asicminer assignment transactions will create the profession of btclawyer
BitHub: i know :/
BitHub: its a bit risky
BitHub: but i need to feed my fams
mircea_popescu: hey, nothing wrong with having that profession around
mircea_popescu: i was trying to push for it with the rota, but as long as it gets made somehow it's all good.
BitHub: i would actually pay for that service atm
BitHub: i made a donation to bitcoin-legal.org before
BitHub: could be good
ThickerThanThiev: bithub, what would you use a bitlawyer for now?
BitHub: just to help me in relation to australian small business law
BitHub: in terms of licences, staying legal, AML and AT compliyant etc
BitHub: company structure
Bugpowdurr: Well if anyone has a recommendation for a US based CPA that gets bitcoin and can issue recommendations, I am all ears.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowdurr possibly smickles once he gets his reg
Bugpowdurr: heh
Bugpowdurr: Probably going for someone more established
mircea_popescu: it'd be pretty cool if some big name cpa started taking btc
mircea_popescu: much more important than wikipedia/worpress/whatnot
BitHub: must be doable to outsource a cpa somewhere and pay them in btc
BitHub: same with a lawyer
pigeons: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=la&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.loremipsum.net%2F
BitHub: these are probably things the bitcoin foundation should be working on
DeadWeasel: I just got offered a permenent position at my contract job.
DeadWeasel: wooooo forme.
DeadWeasel: and I spent most of my time talking on here and looking at bitcointalk.
pigeons: DeadWeasel: its a trap
DeadWeasel: i know it is pigeons
DeadWeasel: but this is a right to work state and I can leave anytime.
mircea_popescu: interesting what right to work ends up meaning
mircea_popescu: http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/acc/3604579148.html loller
ThickerThanThiev: not the worst idea...
ThickerThanThiev: (for the scammer)
mircea_popescu: "I actually recommended a disabled guy with a limited government social income to use some of his last savings to buy 3 units from this guy."
mircea_popescu: the stuff btcrtalk people do ...
mircea_popescu: it's unconscionable. the badmouth mpex on the grounds of it being too good for them and saying so,
mircea_popescu: they push disabled people into sending their last savings to scammers.
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder that thing doesn't explode already.
DeadWeasel: i use an ssh tunnel into my home machine through PUtty, and use IRSSI, it looks like a data sync.
DeadWeasel: I have several command windows open and this one just blends in
DeadWeasel: plus I use screen and can switch this one to another command window doing something legit
iz: ctrl-a, ctrl-a, the boss is coming
DeadWeasel: they are welcome to.
DeadWeasel: I have delays where I"m waiting for builds or loaders, so I do as I please.
jcpham: where is the new drama
DeadWeasel: ;;slap jcpham
DeadWeasel: there it is.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.32002, Best ask: 25.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07998, Last trade: 25.32001, 24 hour volume: 51237.14840373, 24 hour low: 23.67740, 24 hour high: 25.75000, 24 hour vwap: 24.74607
DeadWeasel: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 24.71
Diablo-D3: Im going to see how much it costs to start an LLC in Maine
Diablo-D3: its probably more than I have, though
BitHub: 400?
mircea_popescu: should be like a hundred or w/e
Chaang-Noi: xrp?
Chaang-Noi: d3 why?
Diablo-D3: why what?
coingenuity: Diablo-D3: $85
coingenuity: also, why maine of all places
Diablo-D3: because maine needs the money the most of all places
Diablo-D3: its also better to register in the state that you have your physical assets in
Diablo-D3: makes it easier to make the state go your way
pigeons: prolly vice versa as well
Diablo-D3: maine also has very cheap very cold land
Chaang-Noi: why do you need a llc d3?
pigeons: to limit his liability
Chaang-Noi: glbse should have made a llc, but many other btc operations, but you dont just make one cuz...
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: because thats the norm for technology startups
Chaang-Noi: liabibility to what is what im trying to ask pigeons
Chaang-Noi: d3 do you have a tech start up?
Diablo-D3: you know I do
Chaang-Noi: i thought your company was dead?
Chaang-Noi: iv not been around
Chaang-Noi: is it back alive?
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: it never died
Diablo-D3: Im just cleaning up the mess nefario caused
Chaang-Noi: ok
Diablo-D3: its taking longer than I wished, but the sooner all of this gets going the better
Chaang-Noi: ok
Chaang-Noi: best of luck
Chaang-Noi: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.41225, Best ask: 25.45500, Bid-ask spread: 0.04275, Last trade: 25.41225, 24 hour volume: 51819.99065886, 24 hour low: 23.67740, 24 hour high: 25.75000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77514
gribble: 1 BTC = 25.31971 U.S. dollars = 18.8418738 Euros
Bugpowdurr: takes a lot of $$$ to move the market now
Bugpowdurr: not a lot of BTC though
iz: so.. i figure ppl in here understand foreign currencies pretty well also, so i'll ask here.. why is the yen moving now?
DeadWeasel: you know a lot about africans
Bugpowdurr: iz, Nuke Test
Bugpowdurr: maybe
asa1024: abe told BOJ to print yen to boost their stock market I had read.
DeadWeasel: bugpowder, you should start a tea company. BudPowder tea. with different bugpowder flavors
asa1024: check zero hedge for moar
Bugpowdurr: byebye 25.60
iz: it was happening before the nuke test
Bugpowdurr: where is the assbot
Bugpowdurr: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.60888, Best ask: 25.64999, Bid-ask spread: 0.04111, Last trade: 25.65000, 24 hour volume: 55047.39682831, 24 hour low: 23.84590, 24 hour high: 25.75000, 24 hour vwap: 24.85482
Bugpowdurr: YAH!
Bugpowdurr: assbot is back!
Bugpowdurr: !ticker m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062608 / 0.00064414 / 0.00066029 (2741845 shares, 1,766.15 BTC), 7D: 0.0006153 / 0.00066649 / 0.0007 (21474701 shares, 14,312.79 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066292 / 0.0007 (75430667 shares, 50,004.63 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.0006556 = 4.2286 BTC [-]
Lucidize: Is there any chance of Obsi making some kind of magical payback? Any news on him?
asa1024: The pope lutheran?
error4733: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00598091 / 0.00608437 / 0.00620694 (7895 shares, 48.04 BTC), 7D: 0.004321 / 0.00608305 / 0.00689996 (3348531 shares, 20,369.28 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00557377 / 0.0075 (8343729 shares, 46,506.07 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.0006556 = 3.1141 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14024 @ 0.00065566 = 9.195 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5530 @ 0.00065343 = 3.6135 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9376 @ 0.00065343 = 6.1266 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4026 @ 0.00065566 = 2.6397 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7040 @ 0.00066029 = 4.6484 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3708 @ 0.0006604 = 2.4488 BTC [+]
Bugpowdurr: yeah
Bugpowdurr: S.MPOE up to .00066
Bugpowdurr: lets hope so
imsaguy: lets hope it remains stable
imsaguy: drastic spikes will all but certainly lead to drastic drops
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7989 @ 0.00064622 = 5.1627 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00064551 = 8.5207 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20897 @ 0.00065178 = 13.6202 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4357 @ 0.00063748 = 2.7775 BTC [-]
Bugpowdurr: yeah
Bugpowdurr: volatility is great!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065069 = 9.6302 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00620694 = 10.5518 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00624361 = 6.2436 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00624362 = 3.1218 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0063 = 63 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00635293 = 3.1765 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0063999 = 3.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.0063999 = 25.5996 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3800 @ 0.0064 = 24.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065037 = 2.8102 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5879 @ 0.00065046 = 3.8241 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00194985 = 0.9749 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00194986 = 0.9749 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 2300 @ 0.00195 = 4.485 BTC [+]
jurov: EskimoBob, then why people were again and again sticking to use hyperinflating currencies to do payments irl?
Bugpowdurr: for fuch sake
Bugpowdurr: S.BBET for .00195
Bugpowdurr: are people insane?
jurov: bitcoin is nowhere near such volatility
Bugpowdurr: ;;calc https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=2/3000000/.00195&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
gribble: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
mod6: Bugpowdurr: people said the same thing when S.MPOE hit .00015
Bugpowdurr: ;;calc 2/3000000/.00195
gribble: 0.00034188034188
Bugpowdurr: 0.03% dividend
Bugpowdurr: noice
mod6: lol, its been like 1 month man.
Bugpowdurr: I guess I should have not sold :-P
mod6: look at it this way, it wasn't a loss, and they covered the additional expenses, and STILL paid a ~2 BTC dividend
mod6: in less then 1 month
jurov: ppl expect it to have similar revenue to sdice soon
Bugpowdurr: ppl are idiots
Bugpowdurr: there is zero chance of that happening
Bugpowdurr: unless S.DICE shuts down
mod6: IPO was on Jan 11
jurov: why not?
ThickerThanThiev: zero chance is a bit extreme
Bugpowdurr: well
ThickerThanThiev: it is a betting site after all
mod6: S.DICE IPO was on Aug. 24
Bugpowdurr: I also think S.DICE is overvalued ATM too
Bugpowdurr: probably looking at 4000 BTC / mo
Bugpowdurr: from here
Bugpowdurr: but
Bugpowdurr: hey, growth could occur.
jurov: even with 4k/month sdice divs would be attractive
Bugpowdurr: ;;calc 4000/100000000/.0064
gribble: 0.00625
Bugpowdurr: 0.6% on something that could get DoJ'd?
jurov: ;;calc 0.00625*12
gribble: 0.075
jurov: 7.5% yearly... and how exactly it will get DoJ'd?
ThickerThanThiev: ^
Bugpowdurr: Erik gets charged.
jurov: you mean domain seizure? like it worket in TPB's case?
Bugpowdurr: spooks the market
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064847 = 2.802 BTC [-]
jurov: last i checked tpb is alive and kicking
Bugpowdurr: panic sell
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6879 @ 0.00064844 = 4.4606 BTC [-]
Bugpowdurr: down to .001
Bugpowdurr: that's how I imagine it might go.
jurov: Bugpowdurr then you'll stop bitching about the price i hope
Bugpowdurr: lol
ThickerThanThiev: hehe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 240 @ 0.006 = 1.44 BTC [-]
Bugpowdurr: Can you tell I sold all my S.BBET and S.DICE :)
jcpham: gigavps: http://i.imgur.com/iltirS0.png fan finally died
maximian: I think any DOJ scenario is a ways off
maximian: They take their time investigating
maximian: however, Erik really should sell S.DICE well beforehand
Bugpowdurr: I agree its a ways off
maximian: sell it at 0.008 to some gaming concern in Gibraltar or Macau
Bugpowdurr: yeah
ThickerThanThiev: .008 seems low
ThickerThanThiev: .2
Bugpowdurr: ;;calc .008*87000000*25
gribble: 17400000
ThickerThanThiev: 20mil
Bugpowdurr: yeah
ThickerThanThiev: (usd)
Bugpowdurr: uhhh
Bugpowdurr: I'd take that deal
mircea_popescu: <Lucidize> Is there any chance of Obsi making some kind of magical payback? Any news on him? << nope.
maximian: I think 17.4M would be a fair price
maximian: (USD)
jurov: fuck, why is my phone so hot and slowly charging? oh, left mtgoxlive open :/
maximian: Great way for a big gaming co to get a quick presence in bitcoinland
mircea_popescu: maximian the thing is, once one of them figuresd it out, all do
mircea_popescu: so the only way is either it be ignored or else bidwar.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6021 @ 0.00064844 = 3.9043 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: if there's a bidwar anything under 100mn is a joke.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5373 @ 0.00063749 = 3.4252 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28093 @ 0.00063748 = 17.9087 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4103 @ 0.00063683 = 2.6129 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24610 @ 0.00063606 = 15.6534 BTC [-]
maximian: possibly
maximian: I wonder if evoorhees has put any thought into it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006503 = 2.8099 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16718 @ 0.00065046 = 10.8744 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065034 = 2.8101 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1407 @ 0.00065046 = 0.9152 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.0006473 = 2.5568 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064009 = 2.7658 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11664 @ 0.00064008 = 7.4659 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13301 @ 0.00063606 = 8.4602 BTC [-]
gigavps: jcpham :(
gigavps: time for warranty replacement
maximian: So far this month, S.DICE has earned 6644 BTC as far as I can tell by dooglus' reports, which would imply ~16K profit for the month… does that seem right?
mircea_popescu: why would it imply 16k ?
maximian: just a simple projection
mircea_popescu: a
mircea_popescu: too spikey tho. it can go +x thousand in one day
mircea_popescu: or wallow for however long
maximian: yeah
maximian: most of last month's revenue came really late in the month
Pucilowski: is there a transaction fee to trading on mpex?
mircea_popescu: ya but that was ny
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006416 = 2.7724 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00064154 = 5.3248 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4139 @ 0.00063606 = 2.6327 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: o no, wait, im thinking of the other month
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 407 @ 0.00063526 = 0.2586 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10933 @ 0.0006352 = 6.9446 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Pucilowski 0.2% seller side.
Pucilowski: i see, thanks
Bugpowdurr: maximian, it implies 9k for the month
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063723 = 2.7535 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11936 @ 0.00063693 = 7.6024 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: how did yo ufigure 9k ?
ThickerThanThiev: more like 16k
ThickerThanThiev: but like you said, it could stay flat from here
jurov: nope. it's 120k
ThickerThanThiev: ?
ThickerThanThiev: sdice profit?
jurov: just joking
ThickerThanThiev: ah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3861 @ 0.00063693 = 2.4592 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8889 @ 0.0006352 = 5.6463 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0061 = 6.1 BTC [+]
gribble: 1 BTC = 25.57047 U.S. dollars = 19.1123926 Euros
Bugpowdurr: It will stay flat from here
jurov: did you actually bet? or just speaking in vain?
jurov: http://bitbet.us/bet/221/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-stay-above-20-24-and/
Bugpowdurr: I predict volume of ~2000 BTC / day for the rest of the month
Bugpowdurr: umm
Bugpowdurr: I mean
Bugpowdurr: 100-150BTC revenue a day for the rest of the month
Bugpowdurr: however, another spike of up to 3000BTC is possible.
kakobreklaa: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.57047, Best ask: 25.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02953, Last trade: 25.60000, 24 hour volume: 56715.11409378, 24 hour low: 24.00600, 24 hour high: 25.80000, 24 hour vwap: 24.96823
Bugpowdurr: beyond that, I think is unlikely.
Bugpowdurr: Due to the BTC remaining in the whale addresses.
Bugpowdurr: If those addresses get more coins, of course I will reevaluate my prediction and my S.DICE positioning.
jurov: i predict sunshine, snow or rain. anything beyond that is unlikely :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 670 @ 0.0061 = 4.087 BTC [+]
Bugpowdurr: but most likely outcome is 9k.
mircea_popescu: jesus the scams on bitcointalk never end
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143552.0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8620 @ 0.00063414 = 5.4663 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: used to be that picostocks thing had the cake of most brazen bullshit, but check out that shit.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00612297 = 8.5722 BTC [+]
jurov: lmao btcjam thinks about "limiting number of active loans per user".. as if that would help anything
jurov: and https://strikesapphire.com/ tells me "proxy detected - to ensure we don't accept users from jurisdictions where online gambling isn't allowed"
jurov: what a bs, whatever i have here on port 80 is fine with freenode proxy checker, but not for them
iz: lol
iz: freenode isn't taking your money for gambling
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.006399 = 6.399 BTC [+]
jurov: but they do check rigorously for open proxies
iz: yeah, but that's for anti-spamming, not to cover their asses legally
maximian: bugpowder: I see. well, hopefully the whale comes back. He spoiled us for a while there!
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00598091 / 0.00625286 / 0.0064 (34005 shares, 212.63 BTC), 7D: 0.004321 / 0.00608436 / 0.00677999 (3373219 shares, 20,523.90 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00557722 / 0.0075 (8359458 shares, 46,622.54 BTC)
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 557722 * .13 / 12
gribble: 6041.98833333
mircea_popescu: actually, as long as sdice makes 6k btc a month it covers inflation.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.40120001 = 401.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5367 @ 0.00065046 = 3.491 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065614 = 2.8352 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16159 @ 0.00065615 = 10.6027 BTC [+]
SpNg: are S.DICE financials all denominated in BTC?
jurov: iz, what's the difference, really? either i do have open proxy here or not
jurov: SpNg: yes . and they won't touch fiat at all
maximian: SpNg: yes, and here's last month's P&L statement: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aiec3-Eo_yO5dHB2dVdiaEltUHAtTWlBcFhXQVBYeGc#gid=0
SpNg: jurov: ok, good to know.
Bugpowdurr: bid wall at 25.70!
SpNg: maximian: I found that yesterday. S.DICE is doing pretty well ;-)
maximian: yep, it's a great business
Bugpowdurr: blarg... ask wall at 25.80
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.40063855 = 400.6386 BTC [-]
SpNg: maximian: I'm surprised it's doing that amount of business too. The concept is fairly straight forward. Growth has been amazing on it too
ThickerThanThiev: another boring revenue day for sdice
mircea_popescu: i see the puts are moving
ThickerThanThiev: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1522277#msg1522277
mircea_popescu: interesting graph. blue a little lower black a little higher ?
maximian: revenue goes up in bursts
mircea_popescu: that's new isn't it ? usually 4 and under drives the profits.
Bugpowdurr: usually 4 and over drives profits
Bugpowdurr: but there was 1 guy recently that was just hammering 1 and 2 BTC bets on many different levels
mircea_popescu: a ok
Bugpowdurr: I wonder if its the same guy shorting the 350s that got burned last time...
Bugpowdurr: Seems premature to short the puts, IMHO
Bugpowdurr: h
Bugpowdurr: hurrr. actually ok
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.40063855 = 400.6386 BTC [-]
Bugpowdurr: premature to BUY puts :-P
Bugpowdurr: how yah
Bugpowdurr: its him
mircea_popescu: i wonder if with his luck we should be scared.
Bugpowdurr: lol
Bugpowdurr: how to lose 4,500BTC in 24 hours or less
mircea_popescu: what's that, the 3rd k ?
Bugpowdurr: ya
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long he goes at it this time
mircea_popescu: like, pound bot continuously till opex ?
alphaguru: sup
mircea_popescu: moar like soup
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.40161617 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065247 = 2.8193 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00065264 = 7.2443 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00065342 = 8.8865 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2079 @ 0.00065615 = 1.3641 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5680 @ 0.00063414 = 3.6019 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063397 = 2.7394 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5099 @ 0.00063396 = 3.2326 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.39895687 = 398.9569 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: well on the positive side i think mpex monthly volume is at a new record
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0060123 = 6.0123 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3401 @ 0.00063396 = 2.1561 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063282 = 2.7344 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19711 @ 0.00063281 = 12.4733 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 730 @ 0.0061 = 4.453 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.39895687 = 398.9569 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064192 = 2.7737 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3579 @ 0.00064225 = 2.2986 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0062 = 62 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063407 = 2.7398 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7379 @ 0.00063437 = 4.681 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3997 @ 0.00063437 = 2.5356 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4037 @ 0.00063281 = 2.5547 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063187 = 2.7303 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00063186 = 3.9175 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12542 @ 0.00063131 = 7.9179 BTC [-]
gribble: 1 BTC = 25.64900 U.S. dollars = 19.171089 Euros
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1324 @ 0.00063437 = 0.8399 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064219 = 2.7749 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7323 @ 0.0006422 = 4.7028 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064202 = 2.7742 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064205 = 2.7743 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5058 @ 0.00064225 = 3.2485 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11681 @ 0.00064225 = 7.5021 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0224 = 0.224 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0223 = 0.223 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0222 = 0.222 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0221 = 0.221 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.022 = 1.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 15 @ 0.0216 = 0.324 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 13 @ 0.0215 = 0.2795 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0214 = 0.1712 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 12 @ 0.0213 = 0.2556 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0212 = 0.212 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.02 = 2 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: ASICMINER testing? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49417.msg1522065#msg1522065
Diablo-D3: MY PENIS IS SO HARD RIGHT NOW.
ThickAsThieves: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3250 @ 0.0062 = 20.15 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: nope.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 14.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.0006441 = 11.626 BTC [+]
Bugpowdurr: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143588.msg1510029;boardseen#new
Bugpowdurr: ??
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.73600002 = 7.36 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: !ticker
assbot: How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.52099, Best ask: 25.59999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07900, Last trade: 25.60000, 24 hour volume: 58636.80403702, 24 hour low: 24.28002, 24 hour high: 25.82767, 24 hour vwap: 25.11691
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: no?
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: I did the math, batch #3 avalon is too late
Diablo-D3: they'd have to cut the price in half and/or double the performance
mircea_popescu: Bugpowdurr hurrr
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24835 @ 0.00065303 = 16.218 BTC [+]
jurov: i should post mircea's words to the wall thread.. maybe he meant 200k BTC, not 200 :D
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: im not on mtgox, and it wasn't me.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu has like half the bitcoins in all existence
Diablo-D3: and like 3 bitches, at least 3
jurov: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1522320#msg1522320
Diablo-D3: one for the cleaning, one for the cooking, and one for the blowjobbing.
mircea_popescu: i would like to address this question at this time.
mircea_popescu: i do not has half the bitcoins
jurov: You know, we're open to North Korea but we don't get any players from there either. It's not my problem.
jurov: mircea_popescu but that won't stop me joking
mircea_popescu: that thread is getting like a life of its own huh
jurov: so if you talk with lawyer you'll end up with online casino for north koreans
jurov: that's what the doos is trying to say or?
jurov: *dood
mircea_popescu: jurov you know, he totally owned you
mod6: Inaba is dumb.
mircea_popescu: if you were american it;'d work
Diablo-D3: inaba isnt dumb as much as well paid
mircea_popescu: course now you tell him you're from slovakistan...
jurov: no i;ll prolly ask him whether there aren't sanctions for trade with north korea, too
jurov: like they do with cuba
jurov: or iran
mircea_popescu: hello sir i tell you absolutely no trok at all!
jurov: ?
mircea_popescu: it's this histerical video one sec
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdguyMJprsA
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0062 = 0.062 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0061 = 0.061 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 16 @ 0.00607 = 0.0971 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00599414 = 4.1959 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00599414 = 4.7953 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.00065303 = 17.893 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.006 = 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00064537 = 1.807 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25450 @ 0.0006441 = 16.3923 BTC [-]