assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00031235 = 0.3436 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00031177 = 9.8831 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2286 @ 0.00030962 = 0.7078 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9545 @ 0.0003096 = 2.9551 BTC [-]
gribble: usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 14 hours, 52 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <usagi> We own 2000 shares.. should be good if glbse comes up :/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00030963 = 7.1525 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: jurov, may i suggest disabling the away thingy
jurov: why? it clutters the channel?
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: so I think usagi just ragequit forever
jurov: okay, znc set up, thx kakobrekla for reminder
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: I dont really blame him
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: his assets got hit much worse than mine did
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 192 @ 0.00031333 = 0.0602 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33408 @ 0.00031544 = 10.5382 BTC [+]
rg: [18:13] <kakobrekla> jurov, may i suggest disabling the away thingy
rg: doing nick|away is so 1995
rg: jurov is just paying homage
rg: i used to do nick-afk
rg: how long were you an ircop for
jurov: lol... did not realize, but i did return to irc after 15yrs
jcpham: so how is this train wreck doing
gribble: Best bid: 11.80044, Best ask: 11.94, Bid-ask spread: 0.13956, Last trade: 11.94, 24 hour volume: 63403, 24 hour low: 11.7, 24 hour high: 12.6185
gribble: There are currently 14917.521 bitcoins offered at or under 12.7 USD, worth 184121.05157 USD in total.
Diablo-D3: jcpham: the train wreck is still going
pigeons: 15 years is a long time people had to see that away message
Diablo-D3: pretty much every asset holder has said they wont return if their records can be recovered
jurov: yeah, i forgot my lil' server with linux 0.9 and irc bouncer is 15yrs running
Diablo-D3: I mean, hell, the first 2.0 came out like 16 years ago
Diablo-D3: which was a little before I started using linux
jurov: i started in '99, so don't remember much before
Diablo-D3: Ive been using linux for around that long
jurov: but it's always the same crap. only fucking artist can come up with such error msg: "problem-driven null cycle problems=1"
jurov: i'm trying to set up jackd to use instead of my hearing aids
Diablo-D3: I started linux when debian had potato unstable, and slink was released in 1999
jurov: if it works, it does nicely. but every while something blows up
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 8 @ 0.10200758 = 0.8161 BTC [+]
jurov: some wannabe operating system
jcpham: never heard of it... is it like windows?
pigeons: drinka PBR and move to Plan9
jurov: i'll stay with CP/M, thanks
B0g4r7: Yea, I jumped into linux land around 1998ish. Redhat 5.2 baby.
B0g4r7: Even had a retail boxed copy I think.
B0g4r7: Wish I could find that now.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36500 @ 0.00031287 = 11.4198 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 842 @ 0.0003116 = 0.2624 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: <smickles> holy shit, the gov't representatives in romainia are elected by plurality, and they use a civil law based legal system? <<< yes.
mircea_popescu: femtotube> is that really true that there was so SEC etc agents poking at nefario? It was all just bullshit and excuse << the first part for sure. the 2nd very likely.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 473 @ 0.00349146 = 1.6515 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 77 @ 0.00345638 = 0.2661 BTC [-]
dub: check out atlas' latest vblog
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 4 @ 0.21743878 = 0.8698 BTC [-]
dub: guess I should watch this gangam video or whatever
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00031276 = 6.5054 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120N] 2 @ 0.25 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 177 @ 0.51951231 = 91.9537 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 177 @ 0.51951231 = 91.9537 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 1 @ 0.51951231 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 3 @ 0.21701203 = 0.651 BTC [-]
B0g4r7: Funny, a guy I know went to law school to study and then practice internet law.
Diablo-D3: I need some sort of multidimensional popcorn machine
mircea_popescu: so, am i the only person on btc interwebz who actually sued gubernment and won ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48700 @ 0.00031236 = 15.2119 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00031224 = 4.4338 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48700 @ 0.00031224 = 15.2061 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 2 @ 0.09878951 = 0.1976 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 777 @ 0.34645233 = 269.1935 BTC [-]
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: things you would say if this was magical candy land?
Garr255: <mircea_popescu> o wow glbse is back!
Garr255: mircea_popescu, you are a sick, sic, person
mircea_popescu: gotta change my "hey, pirate paid!" line with something.
grubles: mircea_popescu, looks like mpex is down
mircea_popescu: (also, there's an old ww2 air raid alarm that sounds if the site goes down)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00031224 = 3.5908 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29288 @ 0.00031173 = 9.1299 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: at least mtgox stepped in and covered for the .pl neh ?
rdponticelli: Yeah, the only clusterfuck covered in bitcoin history?
rdponticelli: Glad that mtgox hasn't keep covering clusterfuck. They would own the whole economy at this moment
mircea_popescu: but anyway. i offered to buy glbbq back in may. ofcourse then they were still into this "we know shit" mode.
Diablo-D3: I wonder if we can claim this is our great depression
rdponticelli: Let's pay for people to make holes, and for other people to close them!
mircea_popescu: teach people about their personal inferiority, force them to recognize and bow to their superiors,
dub: you dont print pasta
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: there are no superiors here
Diablo-D3: even I failed at getting this shit rolling
Diablo-D3: and Im a fuckload better than the rest of you
rdponticelli: All the other at the end will fuck your girl....
rdponticelli: Diablo-D3: do you really wasn't aware when you was writing your plan that there wasn't a minimal chance that it would end well?
Diablo-D3: rdponticelli: did you just do a triple negative?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00031173 = 4.6136 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: rdponticelli: there was a large chance of success if everyone pulled together
Diablo-D3: pretty much _no one_ pulled together
rdponticelli: Maybe we just not have the same idea about largeness...
mircea_popescu: great line to use on a girl, tell her you have a large cock
mircea_popescu: Maybe we just not have the same idea about largeness...
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.16390534 = 163.9053 BTC [-]
dub: just find smaller girls tbh
dub: cock looks bigger in their little hands
dub: at least thats what, my friend said
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 2 @ 0.21288428 = 0.4258 BTC [-]
novusordo: anyone know if nefario is requiring ID just for the bitcoin withdrawls, or for proof of ownership of assets as well?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18712 @ 0.00031173 = 5.8331 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26488 @ 0.0003116 = 8.2537 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: it is odd seeing nefario go after theymos, one of the most trusted people around
mircea_popescu: or at least trusted before his entire sell shares sinking ship thing.
Chaaang-Noi: who would not want to sell? also he was selling becasue he did not like the direction glbse was going, the legal path, theymos made that clear
gribble: Best bid: 11.02502, Best ask: 11.12, Bid-ask spread: 0.09498, Last trade: 11.02502, 24 hour volume: 86323, 24 hour low: 10.621, 24 hour high: 12.21
mircea_popescu: point was you'd be acting on undisclosed insider info.
mircea_popescu: he should have FIRST delineated all the problems he was seeing
Chaaang-Noi: well he said he was selling becasue he did not want his name listed on the legal papers
Chaaang-Noi: i kinda trust him, i doubt he expected nefario to go bat shit crazy
mircea_popescu: he should have saiod "im selling because nefario will likely crash this thing and i'd rather get something than nothing"
mircea_popescu: anything other than that level of disclosure -> fraud.
Chaaang-Noi: im pretty well trusted, im more than happy with the level of trust the comunity has given me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 282 @ 0.0032 = 0.9024 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 18 @ 0.0001 = 0.0018 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: i have a lap top that works fine other than the scree will light up only about 2% of normal, just enough to know it is there... this is pretty much fucked right?
mircea_popescu: "I've decided Nefario will get a scammer tag for this. "
Chaaang-Noi: kakobrekla is that pretty easy to do at a computer shop?
mircea_popescu: cause theymos owns the forum and has asked the guy to do it ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100000 @ 0.00295 = 295 BTC [+]
gribble: Best bid: 10.96809, Best ask: 11.089, Bid-ask spread: 0.12091, Last trade: 11.089, 24 hour volume: 87181, 24 hour low: 10.621, 24 hour high: 12.21
gribble: Current Blocks: 202360 | Current Difficulty: 3054627.5269486 | Next Difficulty At Block: 203615 | Next Difficulty In: 1255 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 0 hours, 29 minutes, and 15 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2953812.97685027 | Estimated Percent Change: -3.30038766458
mircea_popescu: There has been [for awhile] a fairly reasonable service from MtGox lately as far as withdrawals were going. Is it going back to trouble mode? I have week worth of withdrawals, all don't move.
kakobrekla: why would be people unplugging them hashers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100000 @ 0.0028 = 280 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100000 @ 0.0026 = 260 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 42700 @ 0.0024 = 102.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.0024 = 4.56 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 38288 @ 0.0024 = 91.8912 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0001 / 0.0027205 / 0.00320001 (399098 shares, 1,085.75 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.003221 / 0.0034 (2081519 shares, 6,704.59 BTC)
Chaaang-Noi: long weekend in usa im sure is also hurting the btc price
mircea_popescu: Security through obscurity is not security. Passwords are security through obscurity, so yes, it is.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090T] 10 @ 0.05651891 = 0.5652 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: Another reason to keep bond fees high :>
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] [PAID] 1000000 @ 0.00003459 = 34.58804 BTC
mircea_popescu: that's three weeks that were actually paid. if/when giga manages to sort out the glbbq mess there'll be more.
mircea_popescu: I am meeting with my lawyers this week to investigate the legality of operating a bitcoin stock exchange, or something along those lines, in Canada. I deal with a global law firm that does a lot of work in the financial sector, so they should be able to provide me with a solid footing.
mircea_popescu: After the legal issues are sorted out, my main concern is how to create one that is not centralized, and not run by a small group of people. I am already working with some top notch security and hosting people,
rg: i vote that we just let rg have all our money
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 17112 @ 0.0024 = 41.0688 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300000 @ 0.0022 = 660 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 52888 @ 0.0018 = 95.1984 BTC [-]
rdponticelli: Why I believe all that money is headed directly into an exchange?
kakobrekla: >> 14:59.30 ( mircea_popescu ) I am meeting with my lawyer
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu, srsly, when you quote, urlpls automagic
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1000 @ 0.31012557 = 310.1256 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.2400318 = 240.0318 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.18222296 = 182.223 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: tho you'd have to be imo insane to sell s.dice half price to buy calls.
mircea_popescu: stands to profit 90 btc on those c090t if btc goes to 15
mircea_popescu: ou know that if I can actually consider paying the fine myself, then the fine is too small.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00031245 = 4.4993 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56800 @ 0.0003125 = 17.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 707 @ 0.00031338 = 0.2216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4975 @ 0.0003137 = 1.5607 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54318 @ 0.00031379 = 17.0444 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00031271 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: Update:we will begin processing account closures and returning bitcoin later today.
Azelphur: Chaang-Noi: what is returning?
pigeons: nice, look, the whole situation sucks, he's closing down so your accounts will be closed. let's just hope for the best that everyone gets their coins back and an accounting of who owns what
Chaang-Noi: yeah it would be nice if people got their coins back.
Chaang-Noi: but this asset thing is going to be a mess, a massive mess
pigeons: its going to be a massive mess, we know that, as long as it keeps moving forward from here, its better than moving backward or not moving
Chaang-Noi: not really sure why thats cool, im sure most people have invested in now worthless assets, not have btc being held on glbse
Azelphur: my asset is still worth as much as I paid for it \o/
pigeons: well lets see if everybody gets back the coins they do have an accounting of what they have and then we can bitch about how it sucks
Chaang-Noi: i agree pigeons but i expect things will slow down. iv already been told i cant accept the code system glbse gave me
pigeons: what are your suggestions for an alternate to the code system?
pigeons: is your main concern with the code system that you don't trust that the information is accurate?
Chaang-Noi: i can only accept the code system if nefario will take the liability for it going bad and BS aml stuff.
Chaang-Noi: as far as i know he is giving these codes to terrorists and is using me to launder money.
Chaang-Noi: i know, it sucks. i had hoped nefario would be able to come up with a better option
kakobrekla: pirate could be a terrorists laudring money ... you didnt have a problem back then?
Chaang-Noi: if the feds arrest me and ask me where the money went i can say pirate and i can say why.
Chaang-Noi: if i take the code system and the feds arrest me i can say i dont know where it went and cuz i trusted some guy who was made at me named nefario...
Chaang-Noi: the coins need to go to nefario first so he can verrify that the correct owners get them
Chaang-Noi: and i thought he was going to do something like that
Chaang-Noi: i was told he was, and i guess he still might.
Chaang-Noi: but that update did not sound too good.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3435 @ 0.00031271 = 1.0742 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00031234 = 5.2785 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33265 @ 0.0003115 = 10.362 BTC [-]
leotreasure: how does nefario know where to send all our coins to?
femtotube: in short, nefario made huge present to all the sec issuers?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8382 @ 0.00031379 = 2.6302 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67718 @ 0.00031425 = 21.2804 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: no, the sec issuers are pretty screwed. they are now in a very bad spot.
Chaang-Noi: if nefario does what i think he will. he however might not so we will just have to wait.
copumpkin: Chaang-Noi: I've heard other people saying legal advice they received suggested that issuers (even in the US) would be shielded by the fact that nefario acted as more than an exchange, and he would thus be on the hook for the issuance of bad securities
copumpkin: rather than the people we generally consider the issuers
femtotube: how come Chaang-Noi? They have the coin and "no way to pay" back
Chaang-Noi: yes copumpkin, that is what i was told to and one of the meany reasons why i should not accept a code system.
Chaang-Noi: femtotube just because they have btc does not mean they can spend them. they ahve to hold them forever until this gets solved.
femtotube: btw, I am in attempting to set up a OT server to see how it works and can it be used to pick up where GLBSE left off
copumpkin: anyway, I'd much prefer if nobody got screwed over this, especially people I like
femtotube: Chaang-Noi: not in this scammers an liars community :)
Chaang-Noi: copumpkin you must not know about my assets being delisted and me being given a "code system" to find the asset holders?
copumpkin: Chaang-Noi: nah, I'm way behind the times
femtotube: Chaang-Noi: I also had a code to get something from your securities
Chaang-Noi: well copumpkin my assets were delisted. i was then givien a bunch of random numbers, the share holderes were then mailed a matching code. and we are supposed to meet up somehow and trade assets for codes.
Ukto: pigeons: I have a suggestion for alternative
Ukto: still working on it
copumpkin: I feel like he would've done a lot better if he'd had professional advice
Ukto: I havent shown you yet. :P
copumpkin: or paid attention to it or something
copumpkin: I still would prefer him not to get in trouble though
Chaang-Noi: people can use the codes more than once
Chaang-Noi: i have no way to know what code has been used twice, what one is real, its soo crazy
Chaang-Noi: i was e-mailed a bunch of random numbers
Chaang-Noi: people are to then send me their secret code and then problem solved...
copumpkin: I guess you're expected to keep records
Chaang-Noi: nefario made up a system that clearly wont work for more than one reason
copumpkin: are they long/random enough to be unguessable?
Chaang-Noi: what if a code is used more than once?
Ukto: thats waht I had been planning
Chaang-Noi: how do i know that the code holder really had the asset?
Ukto: lets hope he was smarter than that
copumpkin: Chaang-Noi: I guess you're just supposed to keep a spreadsheet or a file somewhere with a list of the ones you've paid?
Ukto: have you laoded the data
Ukto: to see if thereare dupes?
copumpkin: Chaang-Noi: you need to trust nefario! sounds like a smart thing to do :)
Chaang-Noi: yeah, i can not do this without trusting nefario
Ukto: i agree with copumpkin: with proper care, there would be no dupes
Chaang-Noi: sadly right now i can not trust nefario
copumpkin: you still need to trust nefario's honesty and competence
Ukto: Chaang-Noi: your just going to pay out right?
copumpkin: I don't think he's malicious, but I'm not too sure about the second half
Ukto: sucks, i expected him to take longer
copumpkin: Chaang-Noi: did he give you how much each code owned?
Chaang-Noi: what happens when someone sells a valid code but its already been used?
Ukto: first come first serv
Ukto: tell ppl not to buy them
Chaang-Noi: people are selling their codes like they would an asset but otc
Ukto: thats their problem
Ukto: they shouldnt do it
copumpkin: buyers need to confirm with you that the code is valid
Ukto: if they wanna trade them
Ukto: have the original contact you
jcpham: the code is to be sold, not told
Ukto: and the new buyer contact you
Ukto: and do it through you
Chaang-Noi: iv been told i cant accept the code system anyway.
Ukto: now i am mroe confused
Ukto: i thoguth the code was to show proof of ownership ?
Chaang-Noi: i can not accept the liability nefario had when he sold the assets
Ukto: and did users get their codes for their holdings?
Chaang-Noi: i was told user have codes, some people have codes
jcpham: fight the power. f-f-f-f-fight the power
Ukto: wait wait, is this ONLY for your assets? or for any asset due to closing ?
Chaang-Noi: iv seen some of the codes sent to me via email from supposed glbse customers
Diablo-D3: NEFARIO IS GOING TO GET SCAMMER TAG
Chaang-Noi: but as far as i know its all nefario :/
Diablo-D3: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Chaang-Noi: ukto i dont know what nefario ha done for other assets, only mine
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: well, you know he tried to fuck me
Ukto: what u talkin bout willis
Ukto: thers is some stuff apaprently
Diablo-D3: Ukto: he tried to fuck me before getting fucked by nefario was popular
Ukto: Diablo-D3: i honestly wonder if my accoutn being 'hacked' was getting fucked by him too now
Ukto: he was living off of glbse
Ukto: told me himself he had no other income
Diablo-D3: yeah, Im wondering how many BTC I actually lost in DMC, or if he actually stole them
Ukto: he said only from profits though, but
Chaang-Noi: and there were many accounts hacked that did not seem like they should ahve been
Diablo-D3: I mean, why else would he intentionally fail to audit me
Diablo-D3: he didnt want people to know what he was doing
Diablo-D3: and he realized he would get caught
Ukto: I just need another.. 2~4 hours
Ukto: and i will have a solution for when nefario releases everyones info
Ukto: what tos? i dont see one on the site
copumpkin: Chaang-Noi: you mean like that passport photo he published? :P
Ukto: as far as I am concerned, he changed his tos to nothingness
copumpkin: perhaps it's shutting down cause he got sued over that
Chaang-Noi: thats why i never gave him my passport photo...
Ukto: he hadtoo many issues
Chaang-Noi: nefario has proven himself to be fail over and over, he just thought he was hot shit and protected
Chaang-Noi: * Ukto :You must log in with services to message this user
copumpkin: it's the fucking goatse guy's fault
copumpkin: if he wasn't baring his asshole to everyone, we wouldn't have +R
Ukto: is he still doing it?
copumpkin: beats me, but I just turned it on unconditionally in my client
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 282 @ 0.00031425 = 0.0886 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33918 @ 0.00031458 = 10.6699 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0001 / 0.00243113 / 0.0032 (753188 shares, 1,831.10 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00305967 / 0.0034 (2451519 shares, 7,500.86 BTC)
Ukto: anyone happen to have a screenshot of the asset page details? specifically the bid/ask tables? (for any asset)
Ukto: I am kinda curious about something
Ukto: cant find it on google images
Ukto: you rock kakobrekla :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6983 @ 0.00031458 = 2.1967 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 3 @ 0.25780139 = 0.7734 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: that has approximately the last bids and asks for a lot of assets
rdponticelli: Ukto: did you want a snapshot of the glbse assets page?
Ukto: as it woudl be pointless to mention before finding out if any asset creators want to continue
rdponticelli: Because some guy made one for my asset in it's thead, but I'm looking at it now and it's only the orderbook and the forms
rdponticelli: Well, I had also saved the page with the portfolio of my asset account...
kakobrekla: im guessing there will be a login of some sorts
Ukto: based on Chaang-Noi
Ukto: i expect there wont be
Ukto: asset holders will get a list of codes+amounts
Ukto: and the holders will get a list of matching codes+amount
copumpkin: asset holder can be abbreviated to ass-hol
rdponticelli: Everything can, and even should be abbreviated to ass-something
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 2 @ 0.38882848 = 0.7777 BTC [-]
Cylta: (rumour from #bitcoin-otc, want to check is it true or not)
rdponticelli: Bad news: bitcoinica isn't in business anymore
Ukto: and you will have your answer
Cylta: mircea_popescu: so, you are the only, who have a stock exchange with bitcoins?
Ukto: dont trust the word of random irc ppl
Cylta: mircea_popescu: oh, right...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4743 @ 0.00031458 = 1.4921 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi did you eventually get your btc balance from glbse ?
mircea_popescu: um. what % is that ? what's the nature of the dispute ?
Chaang-Noi: i dont know the nature. i still do not know why my account was closed and my assets seized
Chaang-Noi: i do not have an exact number but i expect a signiificant amount more
Chaang-Noi: i made the mistake of trusting nefario...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13203 @ 0.00031458 = 4.1534 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i trusted glbse cuz people like theymos were in it
Chaang-Noi: after dealing with a year of nefario its so clear now he is a crazy baby
mircea_popescu: im getting arab hating spam now. wtf is wrong with people.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5253 @ 0.00031458 = 1.6525 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11910 @ 0.00031471 = 3.7482 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13337 @ 0.00031478 = 4.1982 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i must confess i like the emotional responses people come up with
Ukto: y? cause he trid to sell his shares?
mircea_popescu: cause he tried to sell shares in something he either did know or should have known was worthless
Criminalio: mircea_popescu it only appears now in hindsight that he _may have_ misrepresented himself publicly
Criminalio: use weaker language until you are sure
Criminalio: then give me all of your bitcoins because I've got a deal for you
DeaDTerra1: How about giving the whole forum a scammer tag :) We might as well with all the accusations coming down
Criminalio: some might say that the pirate thing escalated
mircea_popescu: some may say many things, including those. i didn't say them.
Criminalio: It's more fun to make things up and write my own history
Ukto: what did MPEX have to do with that thread...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44400 @ 0.00031363 = 13.9252 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00031274 = 0.6568 BTC [-]
rdponticelli: Just put a scammer tag in every single satoshi
rdponticelli: And everybody who anytime touched a single satoshi would be life marked
rdponticelli: Well, not precisely harmless, but at least the less harmful of the scammers
rdponticelli: Somebody payd him in excess, and he kept the difference
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37900 @ 0.00031274 = 11.8528 BTC [-]
rdponticelli: He misrepresented value, failing to account for splits
pigeons: adam back's hashcash was the start of the scam
rdponticelli: Ok, let's take care of all the bulanulas, first xD
pigeons: hey bitcoin is non refundable!
mircea_popescu: Get ready for it kids, bitcoin is going down the path of specialized criminal enterprise so fast it outstrips belief. The next big disaster is already out there- BFL's and the massive pre-order, that will end up getting the royal shaft in about 30 days
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67900 @ 0.00031437 = 21.3457 BTC [+]
gribble: Best bid: 11.4, Best ask: 11.45, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 11.45, 24 hour volume: 99825, 24 hour low: 10.621, 24 hour high: 11.99
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24628 @ 0.00031478 = 7.7524 BTC [+]
rdponticelli: mircea_popescu: it could be true. Maybe if somebody kills the guy, glbse would be back up
mircea_popescu: so is the forum drama-exhausted or what ? i'd have expected a lot moar butthurt on theymos thread.
jcpham: the forum has been played out for some time now
Doffx: Drama? This would be beyond drama.
Doffx: This is a complete and utter catastrophe.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31268 @ 0.00031478 = 9.8425 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00031487 = 7.4939 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3641 @ 0.00031538 = 1.1483 BTC [+]
JWU_42: what is a catastrophe?
JWU_42: what drama did i miss now ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00031437 BTC [-]
rdponticelli: Today's drama is nothing compared to tomorrow's one
JWU_42: mircea_popescu: thanks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0019 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0025 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0009 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0028 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0019 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0019 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0016 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0016 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0009 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0009 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0025 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0016 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00031437 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0025 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0025 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0028 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0019 BTC [-]
dub: would be great if theymos taged himself then left bitcoin entirely
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8 @ 0.00031437 = 0.0025 BTC [-]
dub: he really is the ultimate scammer
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 10 @ 0.097 = 0.97 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 10 @ 0.06366671 = 0.6367 BTC [-]
dub: has nefario actually said anything yet?
jcpham: lawyers normally shut people up
dub: no further proof of theymos intent to continue to destroy bitcoins credibility is needed
jcpham: smoothie still owes me $550 USD on halloween
jcpham: i sold him $11 bitcoins months ago
dub: its like he illicits applications for moderator positions (already a broken model) and selects only the most stupid applicants
dub: If I were you I would relinquish it or face further reputation taint
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090T] 20 @ 0.038 = 0.76 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.000315 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1999 @ 0.00031538 = 0.6304 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00031544 = 2.5235 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00031438 = 3.1438 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7157 @ 0.00031437 = 2.2499 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34975 @ 0.00031433 = 10.9937 BTC [-]