rg: i havent put any new clients on chicago in months
rg: we have like 3 other awesome nodes
rg: switzerland is SO fucking popular
rg: definitely a good move, on my part, cause i rule
rg: gonna get another node in switzerland soon
BTC-Mining: Why switzerland? Because of the financial laws?
dub: admin@aklab-mx960> request system reboot
dub: error: could not open database: /var/run/db/juniper.db: Too many open files in system
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4800 @ 0.00084715 = 4.0663 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining i think they're right in the middle of the german ring
mircea_popescu: i dunno who trusts their "financial privacy" anymore anyway
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00040147 = 8.8323 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 15000 @ 0.0034 = 51 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7700 @ 0.00084715 = 6.5231 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15331 @ 0.00082643 = 12.67 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2000 @ 0.0007984 = 1.5968 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1100 @ 0.00076437 = 0.8408 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 22185 @ 0.00076166 = 16.8974 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11500 @ 0.0007597 = 8.7366 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 20876 @ 0.00075129 = 15.6839 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9308 @ 0.00074879 = 6.9697 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JLP-BMD] 1 @ 0.095 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JLP-BMD] 9 @ 0.09999 = 0.8999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8292 @ 0.00074879 = 6.209 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2000 @ 0.00074567 = 1.4913 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 19708 @ 0.00073557 = 14.4966 BTC [-]
usagi: [06:12:20] <mircea_popescu> da fuck is that. like a riemann ?
usagi: You keep saying how much you know about finance and how little the people who disagree with you do
usagi: What exactly is your finance background?
mircea_popescu: for instance, when they made the first large romanian brokerage house, way back in the 90s
usagi: Yeah well see this is what I am talking about.
usagi: Have you actually studied finance at all?
mircea_popescu: they went through customer roosters and picked people to hire to train as brokers.
usagi: Well I can't say I'm suprised
usagi: Everyone here is a trader mircea that isn't something special
copumpkin: everyone on the internet is a pornstar
usagi: Actually it is interesting that you mention quants, I wonder if any of the bots around here have any good math inside them
usagi: Oh wow dub that really does look like me too!
EskimoBob: you guys are still going at it :) wtf!
JWU_42: EskimoBob: see what u are missing out on...
mircea_popescu: so let's cut this fish then. usagi, pick a couple of stochastic processes of your choosing and demonstrate ito calculus.
copumpkin: I wish I could list porn on my resume
mircea_popescu: you have one hour. do something that's not available to c/p online.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29400 @ 0.00040132 = 11.7988 BTC [-]
usagi: You don't even know what that means, mircea
usagi: No wait, let's make this interesting
usagi: I'll bet you $1000
usagi: Right now yes or now.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1021 = 0.2042 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 50 @ 0.099998 = 4.9999 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so basically what happened here is that copumpkin said something, usagi googled, found wikipedia and now thinks he knows ito calculus. and he'll bet me.
usagi: Ok yeah back to work I guess...
mircea_popescu: this reminds me vaguely of that thing that failed, what was it called...
usagi: That thing called mircea has no balls
mircea_popescu: the "company" that was doing something or the other and peopleended up logging in as anyone etc
mircea_popescu: "We do use... that thing... the one you just talked about. Right. We totally use that. You know, the one from... the market. The thing market."
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1021 = 1.021 BTC [+]
smickles: coursera, i've heard talk about that site
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 50 @ 0.00999999 = 0.5 BTC [+]
usagi: copumpkin is that a good site?
copumpkin: usagi: it's just a general site for running online courses, but the course is starting today
copumpkin: it's one of those free online courses
usagi: online courses have come a long way
Lyspooner: i was told this was a channel concerning bitcoin assets?
copumpkin: Lyspooner: it's a pissing contest, really
smickles: Lyspooner: what asset would you like to talk about?
smickles: damn, i was just going to route him to the assbot wiki page
copumpkin: there's also skiena's comp finance course
usagi: it's all about price discovery
mircea_popescu: i kinda like copumpkin cause he tries to be constructive.
usagi: once you know what something is worth... you can have conviction in your trade
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.7899 = 2.3697 BTC [+]
copumpkin: and you can hear skiena say "mmkay" every two words
copumpkin: (I'm not kidding, it's like the dude in south park)
mircea_popescu: i dun think i'm cool enough yet copumpkin. i rarely know what things are worth
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1021 = 0.5105 BTC [+]
copumpkin: usagi: aha, now we know your financial qualifications!
copumpkin: usagi: isn't there that dude in a top hat? is he your financial mentor?
copumpkin: he was called milord in the italian dubbed version
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
copumpkin: I quite like that quant stack exchange though
copumpkin: I never watched it in english or japanese
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1021 = 0.2042 BTC [+]
copumpkin: when people take an obscure math concept, read for about two minutes, and then write a long blog post explaining it, completely wrong
copumpkin: I appreciate people trying to learn and people trying to teach
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.137 = 1.096 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1375 BTC [+]
usagi: Haskell is really good for parsing.
copumpkin: there's so much wrong with that page
mircea_popescu: getting back to things of import : so wright has ~4 days to pay up 150k usd ?
usagi: Too bad it's so operator heavy.
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: it's more like 350k now
usagi: 35,000 bitcoins :/
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [+]
usagi: or whatever it's called
usagi: Well it's a big secret but it won't be if he doesn't pay
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.14999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1021 = 1.021 BTC [+]
usagi: Well it's hardly a secret, I mean it isn't like they don't have a website.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.14999999 BTC [+]
usagi: You guys keep spoiling my jokes on mircea lol
JWU_42: Hey bubba - you know that there 'nernet thingie
JWU_42: I lived there for 4 years - allows me certain liberties to disparage it =)
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1375 = 0.6875 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [+]
usagi: yeah i sold all bdt from nyan.b 3 weeks ago
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1389 = 0.6945 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.13889 = 1.3889 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.099999 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 5 @ 0.14999999 = 0.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE:FDBF] [Bid: 0.149] [Ask: 0.14999999] [Spread: 0.00099999] [Last: 0.14999999] [24hVol: 30.14999799] [7dAvg: 0.14824659]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.13889 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00040147 = 3.4526 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 10 @ 0.095 = 0.95 BTC [+]
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: No dividend payments yet.
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: No dividend payments yet.
dub: its like a roll call at a special school
mircea_popescu: including some of the brightest minds and most passionate voices in the Bitcoin world.
mircea_popescu: In September of 2011 an interesting concept was presented in the DCAO minutes to increase accessibility of digital commodities through mobile payment processors.
mircea_popescu: Founded in July 2010, the Organization has already played a major role in the development of cutting-edge financial services and promotional campaigns
dub: anything matthew touches is going to fail
dub: I'm half expecting some high drama suicide attempt or somethign once he loses this bet
dub: he appears quite manic about it
dub: I honestly hope he succeeds
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 14 @ 0.1021 = 1.4294 BTC [+]
dub: there are some people we are just better off without
dub: sadly I suspect there will just be a show
mircea_popescu: im sure we'll read all about it in that magazine thingamajig
mircea_popescu: "I read and dismissed Ayn Rand in the late 1970's. She codified and packaged selfishness and boorishness in such a nice way that it resonated with selfish boors."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00040147 = 3.9344 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00040186 = 1.0448 BTC [+]
nefario: some1 from south afica wt a gun
dub: they made good sausage
mircea_popescu: their chief guy, kruger (for whom the kugerrand is named) actually believed the earth is flat.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 5 @ 0.000124 = 0.0006 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0034 = 3.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.1021 = 0.3063 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Speaking of that, Zhou I wanted your thoughts on the financial situation.
mircea_popescu: As you know, Bitcoinica went from cranking out 6-figure profit one month to
mircea_popescu: a flatline the next. I covered most of the deficit from the hack on the
mircea_popescu: assumption Bitcoinica profits would quickly fill in the rest. What's
mircea_popescu: happened instead is a consistent equity leak that has remained unresolved
mircea_popescu: for two months. We've gone from being short 40k to now being short 88k.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22628 @ 0.00040186 = 9.0933 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12072 @ 0.00040302 = 4.8653 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: this is why i was saying im not so sure the zhoutong friend story is true.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.7211 = 3.6055 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 9 @ 0.721 = 6.489 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.72000001 = 2.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 12 @ 0.72 = 8.64 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITNODES] 1 @ 0.24475 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 10 @ 0.0957 = 0.957 BTC [+]
dub: more conspiracy for nefario
mircea_popescu: dub i have no ideea, i was just saying why i have my doubts.
dub: its exactly the kind of stupidly transparent lie chinese tell
dub: "some guy I know and did business with, who also uses my old email address sometimes, took the money. BUT he is willing to give it back if I ask him nicely"
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, the truth may be "this guy i know with money who put up the deficit 4 months ago and now just took his own money back
mircea_popescu: might be whined into giving some more money for fear of X Y Z"
dub: why would zhou lie for tihan though?
dub: remember he only came up with this story after trying to cash out the same amount that was taken from mtgox and some other exchange
mircea_popescu: 1. zhou wrote a shit algorithm for hedging. it seemed good-enouggh originally, but then started losing money.
dub: and being outed by magicaltux
mircea_popescu: 3. zhou went to rich chinese guy, bla bla bla'd him about the future of currency, got 50k btc
mircea_popescu: on the deal that he'll pay it back with interest from the bitcoinica proceeds.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.14999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINRS] 1 @ 0.05 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: 8. zhou goes to tihan, whines and bitches, threatens him with the spirits of cryptoancestors
dub: you are missing another hack or two, but yeah, could have run athat way
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.MINING] 20 @ 0.0999 = 1.998 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.ABMO] 6 @ 0.087 = 0.522 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CC] 1 @ 0.0001 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 3 @ 1.1301 = 3.3903 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 10 @ 0.095 = 0.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 20 @ 0.0975 = 1.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 35 @ 0.1 = 3.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 25 @ 0.1 = 2.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1021 = 0.5105 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.64 = 1.92 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.641 = 1.923 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00040166 = 0.3213 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.62869 = 1.8861 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 5 @ 0.14999999 = 0.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.138889 = 6.9445 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.1388899 = 6.9445 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.13889 = 1.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1397 = 0.6985 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.1398 = 2.796 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.1399 = 2.798 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.14 = 2.94 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1021 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3284 @ 0.00085411 = 2.8049 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5200 @ 0.0008556 = 4.4491 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00040132 = 1.9665 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00039964 = 3.4369 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 5 @ 0.14999999 = 0.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 4 @ 0.5012 = 2.0048 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 4 @ 0.5011 = 2.0044 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 2 @ 0.501 = 1.002 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 10 @ 0.5 = 5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.09577 = 0.1915 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 9 @ 0.075 = 0.675 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: "Everyone else is using them in bitcoinland! They must be good!"
dub: to be fair linode is fine
dub: they had an employee go rogue, there is no protection from that
mircea_popescu: i don't care. what i do is, i pick things and blacklist them.
assbot: [GLBSE] [SS] 8 @ 1.65 = 13.2 BTC [-]
dub: the problem is people putting hot wallets on _VPSEN_
dub: that is fucking retarded
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.09300001 = 0.186 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.093 = 0.279 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 43 @ 0.092705 = 3.9863 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 25 @ 0.092605 = 2.3151 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.09260001 = 0.1852 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 32 @ 0.0925 = 2.96 BTC [-]
smickles: why arn't these exchanges audited and insured?
smickles: well, don't people like neofurter and rg do security work?
mircea_popescu: smickles neither of those could eat a 25k loss. what else you got ?
smickles: and if cpa is currently the only option for insureance, something may be able to be worked out
mircea_popescu: cpa is the pet project of usagi, who is a well meaning and far overreaching anonymous english teacher.
smickles: mircea_popescu: it's a sector of the bitcoin economy that needs to be fleshed out, it seems
Obsi: Someone should write a how-to security guide for all these exchanges to get up to speed.
mircea_popescu: bunch of people have been throwing concepts around, just, insurance ain't so simple in btc.
mircea_popescu: Obsi someone was linking something on the forum. the problem is everyone has faith in themselves
mircea_popescu: this results in bizzare shortcuts and weird implementations.
smickles: i would imagine it to work out something like: in order to qualify for insurance, the agent would require you system to meet with some sort of inspection
smickles: and i bet the insurance would cost a pretty penny
mircea_popescu: smickles option contracts are insurance, in a way. i don't even know currently if i got taken for 4.5k or not.
mircea_popescu: leaving aside the fact that no actor in the "insurance" play=pretend space could eat that and survive,
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 5 @ 0.14999999 = 0.75 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if you were in my shoes. you insured the btc/usd rate and took a loss. what now ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 400 @ 0.1021 = 40.84 BTC [+]
smickles: well, you take a loss. presumeably, you business can handle an amount of losses
mircea_popescu: so i want an answer to this q : do i need to pursue anyone or is it bona fide loss ?
smickles: how does insurance work when it's for stuff like hail damage?
Obsi: You sue the weather
mircea_popescu: but seriously smickles, it's very VERY hard to insure anon.
smickles: well, if i insured an exchange, i wouldn't allow it to be on a managed vps
mircea_popescu: soon enough best scammer business model would revolve around your insurance company.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4800 @ 0.00085578 = 4.1077 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: even irl, w/o anonimity insurance fraud is like the #1 fraud by volume tried in courts.
mircea_popescu: but your claims would result almost always from "hacks".
smickles: mircea_popescu: in your case, isn't all actual btc offline?
mircea_popescu: and actually, to this day us insurers won't do floods.
smickles: so then a theft would have to come from physical theft
mircea_popescu: except im not an exchange. are you going to only insure exchanges that don't have hot wallets ?
Obsi: insurance company should provide the hosting & app platform, then they can be sure if actual hacking is taking place.
mircea_popescu: you'd need some muscle to force people into obedience, as in, the special cornflakes that they are don't want to give you their code.
smickles: Diablo-D3: suppose the code has to be audited too
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 you don't let them run it. you run it/ they just give you the code.
mircea_popescu: so yes, this would be a solution, but you would need something bigger than currently available
smickles: if the code sucks, it doesn't qualify for insurance
Diablo-D3: guess what: you can write stable and secure php.
Diablo-D3: if writing sane code was so easy, WE'D NEVER HAVE BUGS
Diablo-D3: it took me about 4 months to write an STM impl that wasnt shit
Diablo-D3: and I still cant prove if its 100% correct
smickles: so there is no code good enough to even build an actuarial model around?
Diablo-D3: I just know that every attempt Ive made to smash it has failed or lead to bugs that were fixed
mircea_popescu: we're too new and for the largest majority, too stupid.
copumpkin: granted, much simpler code than an STM impl :)
Diablo-D3: copumpkin: bullshit, you'd have to use a language specifically for that
Diablo-D3: theres only like three languages for that
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.099999 = 0.4 BTC [+]
copumpkin: Diablo-D3: I do this shit in my free time
copumpkin: I have thousands of lines of code of agda
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: ooh! ooh! I know what intergrals are! THEY ARE NIGHTMARE CONSTRUCTS SPAWNED BY EVIL MATH TEACHERS
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 i was referencing a speciffic discussion, i think you weren't here.
Diablo-D3: still, go ahead and write a provable stm impl\
copumpkin: I was tempted to, and started working on it :)
Diablo-D3: its ugly bastard code that I am not entirely pleased with
copumpkin: I'd need to build concurrency models first
Diablo-D3: maybe in 20 years I can replace it with hardware stm
copumpkin: because these languages give you very few primitives
copumpkin: so you need to build most things from scratch
usagi: Fix the security hole:
usagi: function makealpha($s){
usagi: $r = preg_replace('/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/i', '', $r);
Diablo-D3: complex hardware sychronization that fixes most of the ....
Diablo-D3: usagi: weatkhalrjhwrlarjarlroufjojawr
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 19 @ 0.1021 = 1.9399 BTC [+]
usagi: Ok that was level 1
usagi: Now here's level 2
usagi: function makealpha($s){
usagi: $r = preg_replace('/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/i', '', $s);
usagi: This obviously has blown Diablo-D3's mind.
Diablo-D3: doesnt php even have a fucking function for that
copumpkin: usagi: so you have a function makealpha that removes all alpha?
usagi: But there's a security hole.
Diablo-D3: there is a security hole BECAUSE SOMEONE THOUGHT REGEX WAS A GOOD IDEA
Diablo-D3: its bad enough I can do that kind of shit in perl
mircea_popescu: regex is a good ideea if you don't allow FUCKEN CHINESE BS CHARS
Diablo-D3: its an even worse idea to use php. for anything. at all.
usagi: No, that's not it Diablo.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I can make secure unicode apps
usagi: There's a very real problem with the makealpha function
Obsi: match what you allow, don't remove what you don't want.
Diablo-D3: Obsi: that only partially describes how ugly that regex is
usagi: If you can point out the security flaw I will hire you as my pen tester :p
BTC-Mining: Weird how I can't just stay 24/7 watching the bitcoin markets.
mircea_popescu: listen, this is the reason there's not many decent exchanges. 2k a month ? srsly ?
Diablo-D3: by default thats the one and only security flaw I need to know.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: writing an exchange is easy
usagi: Diablo thats nice but that's not the flaw
usagi: Yeah but you don't know anything about computer security
Diablo-D3: if I ran an insurance company and I had to audit code, anything written in php automatically fails.
usagi: What would you suggest -- cgi? lol
usagi: PHP is pretty much enterprise class
Diablo-D3: its the only language I can truly express myself in
usagi: PHP is more popular than perl, ruby, lisp, erlang and haskell all rolled into one
Diablo-D3: what planet have you been living on
usagi: The planet where people have reasons for what they believe in?
usagi: You are so big on PH{'
usagi: PHP's security flaws -- okay, so,
Diablo-D3: usagi: read the php release changelogs for the past 5 years.
Diablo-D3: and also, where is php actually popular? its not in the enterprise.
mircea_popescu: "On Tuesday, the PHP Group plans to release new versions of PHP in order to address the problems with a previous patch, which was intended to close a security problem." and on it goes.
usagi: Do you know what the security problem is?
Diablo-D3: oh my fucking god, people still use php with cgi?
smickles: usagi: just a wild guess, would that function fubar when regex special characterw were used?
Diablo-D3: php has a fucking fastcgi handler, jesus fucking christ
usagi: “When PHP is used in a CGI-based setup (such as Apache's mod_cgid)..."
usagi: So in othr words, it does not apply to modern PHP installations
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.09566999 = 0.1913 BTC [+]
usagi: See this is so endemic
usagi: I say, find the flaw, and you can't.. but instead of just asking, you bullshit about how the entire language is insecure
usagi: As proof you bring up the fact that they fix security holes as they are found
usagi: IIRC solaris had a security hole in sendmail until like, 6 months ago
usagi: I guess that means we can't use unix
Diablo-D3: usagi: the flaw is you're using that regex on user input in a function named "makealpha"
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 7 @ 0.5023 = 3.5161 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 9 @ 0.5022 = 4.5198 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 10 @ 0.5016 = 5.016 BTC [-]
usagi: You're getting warmer
Diablo-D3: no, this is what I said near the top.
usagi: But you were wrong there.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 2 @ 0.5897 = 1.1794 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: usagi: so explain to me, again, why you're not using strtoupper with your locale force set to a unicode one?
usagi: But anyways you mentioned Erlang
usagi: I am intrigued by their programming specificatoins
usagi: Why should I learn Erlang?
usagi: And... what about Haskell?
usagi: I've been meaning to learn Python actually, because of armory
Diablo-D3: [07:56:36] <usagi> $r = preg_replace('/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/i', '', $s);
copumpkin: replace all nonalphanumeric with empty
Diablo-D3: copumpkin: thats not what ^ means.
usagi: ^ means everything except
usagi: Well I will show you the solution
Diablo-D3: I can very easily produce a string that will produce an empty string with that regex
usagi: function makealpha($s){
usagi: $r = substr($s, 0, 1024);
usagi: $r = preg_replace('/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/i', '', $r);
Diablo-D3: usagi: you're giving a shit about string size on a dynamic language?
usagi: lol theres a buffer overflow in preg_replace
usagi: it will crash the system and maybe worse
Diablo-D3: if there is a buffer overflow in preg_replace
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah no fucking shit
Diablo-D3: usagi: fuck you dude, learn to code
nefario: mircea_popescu: dont you use php?
mircea_popescu: there WAS A buffer overlfow in php preg replace cca 2005
usagi: I just showed you a) you don't know what the insecurities are b) you don't know how to fix them
usagi: I'm not the one that needs ot learn to code bro
Diablo-D3: _I dont use php because its not secure_
usagi: Yeah and thats another thing, mpex is php
copumpkin: usagi: admittedly, asking for idiosyncrasies of particular versions of a specific language isn't exactly testing our security knowledge :)
Diablo-D3: does perl have the same problem? no. does ruby? no. does java? no.
usagi: I was just trolling diablo
smickles: lol, java has it's own problems
nefario: Diablo-D3: all those languages have their own issues
Diablo-D3: nefario: yes, but not a core language feautre having a buffer overflow.
Diablo-D3: thats something only php could do.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.7299 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol. the public face is php. mpex actually runs on lisp.
nefario: buffer overflow is a core feature of C C++
nefario: mircea_popescu: you use lisp?
usagi: There were still holes in malloc and free being used until early this year IIRC
nefario: but don't know if he'll hear me
nefario: last time I tried talking to him
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 4 @ 0.059 = 0.236 BTC [-]
nefario: mircea_popescu: which version of lisp?
copumpkin: my colleague saw him on the subway home this evening
usagi: That explains everything.
usagi: mircea is a lisp programmer :)
nefario: mircea_popescu hired a lisp programmer?
nefario: where ever did you find one?
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.62869 = 1.8861 BTC [+]
usagi: Is mpex really written in lisp?
nefario: I know people too, and none of them use lisp professionally
usagi: thats pretty sad lol
usagi: No wonder he can't maintain it
nefario: usagi: lisp in and of itself is not a problem
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9341 @ 0.00040166 = 3.7519 BTC [+]
usagi: No it's that no one knows it
nefario: mircea_popescu: you need people to use the site to notice its down
nefario: I almost developed some respect for mircea_popescu
usagi: If I had 3 bids and one of them was lisp I could tell you what the most expensive bid was without even looking
nefario: but he doesn't code it himself
mircea_popescu: that's possibly the worst criteria to decide who to respect.
usagi: Programming in lisp is a lot like programming in 8088 assembly language.
mircea_popescu: you should respect me because you had a market you were shitting all over for a year
usagi: You have to think like you're coding for 50 year old hardware
nefario: it's just the implenetations of it are no fun to use in production environments
usagi: Spoken like a true ruby evangelist nef :)
nefario: reddit started off in lisp
nefario: but they had to move to python because of threading issues
copumpkin: and I don't even have to write my own STM impl
assbot: [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 1 @ 0.14999 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 just did it cause he's a programmer at heart, wants the challenge.
nefario: I very much enjoy playing around with lisp
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.14999999 BTC [+]
nefario: when you start heading towards production
nefario: you rely more on libraries etc.
nefario: good libraries are important
nefario: list was fantastic at the start of the web
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINRS] 1 @ 0.05 BTC [-]
nefario: when there were no libraries
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.1689 BTC [+]
nefario: well mircea_popescu, better throw out the GPG lib you're using and write your own
nefario: write your own libc if you don't trust libraries
nefario: perl, ruby, python have so many great libraries
nefario: there is no advantage in using lisp anymore
dub: mircea_popescu has libraries, of porn
nefario: the best implementation of lisp that I've found
usagi: I'm a Java programmer. I am writing the backend for my exchange in java.
nefario: ok it doesn't do threading
smickles: usagi: you arn't afraid of how often java exploits seem to happen?
usagi: There are exploits everywhere
usagi: Even ruby has gaping security holes all over it
smickles: usagi: yes, but java is a pretty big target
usagi: There's nothing in any language that will prevent security holes
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 10 @ 0.14999999 = 1.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 10 @ 0.14999999 = 1.5 BTC [+]
copumpkin: the idea is to minimize the opportunities for them
usagi: You can't mitigate security by choosing a language
copumpkin: the vast majority of security holes arise from a couple of features that many language simply omit
usagi: Security is about compartmentalization
usagi: rg knows what he is talking about -- he said, he runs everything in VMs
copumpkin: I know what I'm talking about, too :)
usagi: so that if a service gets compromised they can't get out of the vm
nefario: then you can ensure there are no holes in your code
usagi: Yeah mircea of coruse I am making an exchange.
copumpkin: most security bugs in the wild arise from buffer overflows or format string vulns
copumpkin: the latter of which is particularly stupid
copumpkin: because it comes from a feature in format strings that nobody ever even uses, except for exploits
nefario: and now Im after installing clisp
copumpkin: all of which can be solved by language design decisions
usagi: Can you point out how it is wrong?
nefario: mircea_popescu: do you code...at all? Do you even know how?
usagi: What does the cert say
copumpkin: it's a self-signed root that doesn't match the domain
mircea_popescu: Connecting to hotwallet.ca|199.48.69.241|:443... connected.
mircea_popescu: ERROR: cannot verify hotwallet.ca's certificate, issued by `/O=hotwallet/OU=hotwallet/CN=199.48.69.241':
mircea_popescu: ERROR: certificate common name `199.48.69.241' doesn't match requested host name `hotwallet.ca'.
copumpkin: but during development, it's fairly common to not pay for a real one :)
usagi: buying certs opens you up to MITM attacks.
usagi: Self-signed and self-published certs are more secure than ones you buy online
copumpkin: usagi: self-signed certs defeat the purpose of the system
usagi: Yupyup they sell mitm boxes to the feds
usagi: The point is that the communication is encrypted
copumpkin: might as well use uncertified diffie-hellman
copumpkin: you can do that without a certificate
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [-]
copumpkin: TLS provides two features: authenticating your peer, and encryption
copumpkin: the certificates (possibly even client-side, in some systems) provide auth
smickles: copumpkin: i plan to self sign my cert, and publish clearsigned info so that users can verify my sig and import the cert
smickles: there by getting encryption and identity
usagi: Sign in with a yubikey
usagi: I'm setting it up so you can't do anything without 2fa
copumpkin: usagi: the point is, if you use a self-signed cert, someone else can pose as your site, and nobody will know
usagi: send with yubikey, etc.
copumpkin: they can act as a middleman and forward requests to your real site
copumpkin: or just not even bother doing that
usagi: But if I publish my own cert
usagi: then you can verify if it is me or not :)
copumpkin: sure, you'd attach it to some other notion of identity
copumpkin: but the vast majority of your users aren't going to know that
copumpkin: that's why central cert auths are worthwhile
usagi: Now there's a scam if I ever saw one
smickles: if the user doesn't care about connecting to the real site...
copumpkin: I might go out of my way to add your cert to my trusted set
usagi: 100 dollars for .... nothing
copumpkin: store the root somewhere else, and have it sign a sub-cert
copumpkin: and then make the site use the sub-cert
chaang-noi: usagi is yarr jumping to a differnt ponzi and is the 1% for yarr garanteed each day?
chaang-noi: like if i get it, will you be sure i get 1% each day other than sunday?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.003393 = 0.1018 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: incidentally : i have no ideea how people imagine those cert scams make any money
mircea_popescu: what with only allowing people that pay to have centralised certificates.
mircea_popescu: it should be free and they should recoup costs from advertising or something.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 200 @ 0.1042999 = 20.86 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 10 @ 0.94230769 = 9.4231 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 9 @ 0.75 = 6.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 6 @ 0.76 = 4.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 5 @ 0.095 = 0.475 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 250 @ 0.095 = 23.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 75 @ 0.1 = 7.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 1.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 2 @ 0.76 = 1.52 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C010T] 823 @ 0.90562136 = 745.3264 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: In case it's not clear to the dimwit collectivists, the "creditors who essentially have an open and shut case when it comes to a lawsuit" are we who have USD held by BitFloor, not the magical internetnerd token owners.
assbot: [GLBSE] [CHEAPERINBITCOINS-STOCKS] 1 @ 0.28999 BTC [+]
usagi: goat; nope, YARR is not jumping to a different ponzi.
usagi: As for the 1%, that part of the contract doesn't change; it's a pass-thru. Kind of like how tygrr.bond-pi stopped paying interest when pirate did
usagi: I wonder what the market will price it at this timre
usagi: Oh the other issue is, Nefario hasn't approved (or disapproved) of it yet
usagi: It might not list for a while
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 4 @ 1.0635 = 4.254 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 1.063 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 20 @ 1.05 = 21 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 10 @ 1.02 = 10.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 20 @ 1.00001 = 20.0002 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 15 @ 1.00000003 = 15 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 10 @ 1.00000002 = 10 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 65 @ 0.31 = 20.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 100 @ 0.32 = 32 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 19 @ 1 = 19 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 100 @ 0.311 = 31.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 100 @ 0.32 = 32 BTC [+]
usagi: I hope that wasn't you sellin YARR, goat
usagi: So um now that I am back
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [+]
usagi: Mircea, you said my site's security was bad or something? what did you see
mircea_popescu: i said you should either sign with the domain name or else quote the link with the ip in it
mircea_popescu: and copumpkin gave you the very useful advice of not signing with the root
mircea_popescu: which i wouldn't have bothered, cause you frankly aren;t worth it.
usagi: What do you think of the actual site?
usagi: So you don't actually have any problem with the site. Ok cool, I'll quote you on that ;)
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 2 @ 0.14999999 = 0.3 BTC [+]
usagi: Mircea said he cannot see any security flaws or problems with my site ^^
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1366 = 0.683 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09567 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ahahaha this takes the cake : ppl wanting to do a 75k btc ipo on glbse for a bankrupt company
mircea_popescu: it used to make ~2k a year before going bust, so this would be a P/E of ... 33
mircea_popescu: satoshi dice ipoing at a P/E of 10 was however much too expensive in the oppinion of the same financial wizards.
mircea_popescu: i guess evoorhees should bankrupt first, then it'll be also a great ipo. buncha idiots these people.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOT] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.0099998 = 0.03 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOT] 2 @ 1.01 = 2.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOT] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+]
usagi: Are you planning on buying it back goat?
usagi: Then let the market bleed into your .91
chaang-noi: i have asked nefario to make a large flashing red sign saying dont buy it
chaang-noi: well, i want to protect and make aware people trusting me assets...
usagi: But you are waiting for bitcoinina
usagi: So saying don't buy it could skew the market.. people mightg sell out, you'd buy up all the shares on the cheap etc
usagi: Who is to say that someone out there doesn't know something and is not selling under 1?
usagi: maybe pc is the one buying
chaang-noi: there is no way it should be wroth more than 1 btc ever
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00040242 = 0.6841 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13659 @ 0.0004018 = 5.4882 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5241 @ 0.00040048 = 2.0989 BTC [-]
chaang-noi: assbot> [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOT] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4784 @ 0.00040302 = 1.928 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40158 @ 0.00040326 = 16.1941 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.559 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1042889 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: I keep getting undercut by 1 satoshi on everything almost instantly
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9867 @ 0.00086192 = 8.5046 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11793 @ 0.00086378 = 10.1866 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5465 @ 0.00085631 = 4.6797 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1716 @ 0.00085578 = 1.4685 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8300 @ 0.00084532 = 7.0162 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6519 @ 0.00081485 = 5.312 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12800 @ 0.00081485 = 10.4301 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 3 @ 0.14999999 = 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 3 @ 0.15 = 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C010T] 592 @ 0.90552673 = 536.0718 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104285 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so there's some dumbass scam that's being spimvertised.
mircea_popescu: and this idiot is doing "a review" which consists of spending 20 minutes saying he's gonna do the same thing cause it works well.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 75 @ 0.01485 = 1.1138 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: considering the sort of shit that errupts every time money meets internet, i would say BTC is way ahead of the curve.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00040189 = 8.3593 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 40 @ 0.01481 = 0.5924 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: Wait what? You mean the classic "Buy my 20$ book to learn how to make 20$s from people!" stupidity?
mircea_popescu: actually i been half waiting to see the first btc shit in long page format with yellow highlights tbh
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 8 @ 0.7299 = 5.8392 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: that bitfloor thing can't help creating some decent memes.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 10 @ 0.96153846 = 9.6154 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: About those long page with yellow and red highlights (with the obligated traditional blue background and big red or golden "Buy Now" button at the bottom)
BTC-Mining: Did you know that 0.001% of them are legit? Pay 100 000 x 100$ bi-daily subscription and find out the one which actually provide hepful financial advise!
BTC-Mining: Or for a better deal, just buy Finances for Dummies
dub: I love this 1nject0r guy
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 15 @ 0.73 = 10.95 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: You mean that 8 years old kid who think he has hacked a website by loading an error page?
dub: still smarter than 90% of bitcointalk
mircea_popescu: i am very curious which will be the 1st bitcoin service to reach a 5 year stretch w/o hacking.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.79 = 3.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00040236 = 3.581 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 6 @ 0.055 = 0.33 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 1 @ 0.053 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: Only one to have survived a hack so far, and probably the better equipped to achieve that
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.104275 = 0.3128 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.10428 = 0.2086 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 29 @ 0.104285 = 3.0243 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 11 @ 0.104286 = 1.1471 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104286 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 78 @ 0.1 = 7.8 BTC [+]
copumpkin: the crash was artificial to exploit their withdrawal limits
copumpkin: I think the official statement is that the guy made off with 2000 coins or so
copumpkin: assuming they aren't downplaying it, which they probably are :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00040326 = 4.8391 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCS] 500 @ 0.011 = 5.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.139 = 0.695 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1399999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.13999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00040236 = 8.2886 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JLP-BMD] 2 @ 0.0811 = 0.1622 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 1 @ 0.00999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 1.098 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 2 @ 1.0989954 = 2.198 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7284 @ 0.00040326 = 2.9373 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36069 @ 0.00040333 = 14.5477 BTC [+]
EB250: BTC-Mining: same shit, different exchange :)
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: [04:03] <BTC-Mining> For all we know, all those trading websites were made by the same guy who is completly hilarious from making the same "mistake" every time yet keep getting funds from everyone every time.
BTC-Mining: [04:07] <BTC-Mining> "Oh guys, I'm sorry, I was (reusing passwords because it smartly saves me time/didn't use a cold wallet because it's stupid waste even if it caused plenty of others losses before me/didn't implement any actual security practice because heck, it's completly non-convential in the financial market to have those right?). All the funds were stolen. I still have a balance
BTC-Mining: in BTC/USD but there's no way I'm returning that either. Thanks, bye."
BTC-Mining: You mean BDT? I was thinking bitfloor currently...
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7296 @ 0.0007476 = 5.4545 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: BDT hasn't officially absconded from responsibility to anything.
BTC-Mining: But they found a security issue they had to correct before reopening.
BTC-Mining: I haven't read it yet, so unless you can point it out...
mircea_popescu: Jonathan Ryan Owens locked Rebate, Zip.A, Alberto & BDT thread
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 300 @ 0.00999999 = 3 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Is that the same Alberto and is there any official statement they lost 4k BTC?
mircea_popescu: welll, people don't seem to be making official statements much.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOT] 4 @ 0.91 = 3.64 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: kronos.io did launch, it was online for a few days then it closed. seems to me this is credible.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.79999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Forum software was compromised using a 0day exploit in SMF. Perpetrator had administrative access since September 3rd, which went unnoticed until September 9th, when they inserted the CosbyCoin defacement JavaScript.
BTC-Mining: oh, the operator lost 4k in the past with Kronos...
BTC-Mining: Now I'll tell all my friend I have a new drama show called "Bitcoin".
BTC-Mining: Full of unrealistic scenarios and bitching.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11704 @ 0.0007476 = 8.7499 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13096 @ 0.00074876 = 9.8058 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1754 @ 0.0003997 = 0.7011 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00039967 = 5.8352 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17502 @ 0.00039964 = 6.9945 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4244 @ 0.000399 = 1.6934 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5104 @ 0.00074876 = 3.8217 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10600 @ 0.00075113 = 7.962 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4296 @ 0.00081 = 3.4798 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.7999 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: deadt, want to buy back all that pirate debt? lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2794 @ 0.0004008 = 1.1198 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12431 @ 0.00040333 = 5.0138 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00040427 = 4.2448 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.0004044 = 4.0844 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16244 @ 0.0004048 = 6.5756 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00040414 = 5.2538 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9646 @ 0.00074033 = 7.1412 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5369 @ 0.00072379 = 3.886 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9300 @ 0.00070635 = 6.5691 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3785 @ 0.00070427 = 2.6657 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: right now plan is to sell off hardware
DeaDTerra: each share can be traded for $15 right?
Chaang-Noi: no, i highly doubt the hardware is worth that much
DeaDTerra: sorry my fault xD remembered incorrectly
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.13 = 1.17 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.72999999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16746 @ 0.00040414 = 6.7677 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.000399 = 9.8154 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1156 @ 0.000399 = 0.4612 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 244 @ 0.00039865 = 0.0973 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: why not just sell the gpu hardware and buy an asic rig?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 2 @ 0.08 = 0.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 8 @ 0.1042889 = 0.8343 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1042889 = 1.0429 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: nefario how be the legalization going?
nefario: I think I remember saying nothing will be happening until next week
Chaang-Noi: lol, if i could read everything everyone writes
nefario: Im waiting to get some documents
nefario: wont have them until saturday
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 1.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 4 @ 1.03 = 4.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53200 @ 0.00039943 = 21.2497 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.73 = 3.65 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 3 @ 0.07999999 = 0.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 16 @ 0.08 = 1.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 6 @ 0.0899999 = 0.54 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 10 @ 0.0923 = 0.923 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 15 @ 0.0925 = 1.3875 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 5 @ 0.99999 = 5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-A] 2 @ 0.12 = 0.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2500 @ 0.00081 = 2.025 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 150 @ 0.00999999 = 1.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 6 @ 0.09567 = 0.574 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 2 @ 0.06 = 0.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 4 @ 0.0575001 = 0.23 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 10 @ 0.0575 = 0.575 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 180 @ 0.055 = 9.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 9 @ 0.052 = 0.468 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19953 @ 0.00039865 = 7.9543 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 11 @ 0.11 = 1.21 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 10 @ 0.1072 = 1.072 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 7 @ 0.79 = 5.53 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25016 @ 0.00039865 = 9.9726 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29984 @ 0.00039826 = 11.9414 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 20 @ 0.1 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 2 @ 0.0091 = 0.0182 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 3 @ 0.009001 = 0.027 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 2 @ 0.00902 = 0.018 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 4 @ 0.00910012 = 0.0364 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: ahh all good stuff if you really hold physical
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.13 = 0.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RSM] 1 @ 0.2999 BTC [-]
farfi: This pirate situation better be over soon... peopel are losing their mind....
assbot: [GLBSE] [JLP-BMD] 2 @ 0.09989 = 0.1998 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.6349 = 1.2698 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: Looking to sell a 200 BTC BitcoinMax account anyone interested?
Chaang-Noi: then piles of shit will fall on mk kinny
Chaang-Noi: people will try and make a new goatse out of pirate on the 10th
Chaang-Noi: or at least file wire fraud charges that will be the start of priates new very large asshole
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 50 @ 1.01 = 50.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 40 @ 1 = 40 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4583 @ 0.00039943 = 1.8306 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17069 @ 0.00039979 = 6.824 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i think we need a btc lets just go the fuck crazy day
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 10 @ 0.78 = 7.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 10 @ 0.79 = 7.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 11 @ 0.73 = 8.03 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: lol EskimoBob is still trolling on the dmc thread
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00039993 = 9.8783 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.13 = 0.39 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.14 = 0.7 BTC [+]
EB250: Diablo-D3: what do you mean by trolling?
EB250: I read the stuff he writes and looks like the problem is not EskimoBob but you :)
EB250: I do not have any DMC but even if half of this is true
EB250: you have fucked up badly and looks like people are not happy with your lack of management skills
Diablo-D3: EB250: he seems to think that DMC isnt already moving forwards
Diablo-D3: I dont even know why hes trying to stop it
rg: as if id pay that chump for anything
rg: hes the only one person i have /ignore'd
Diablo-D3: rg: so I wonder how well this is going to go
rg: im imagining pretty slow
Diablo-D3: well, Ill be the only one selling high end dedis for btc
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 5 @ 0.075 = 0.375 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.799 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.09999 = 0.9999 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: and they're claiming 24k btc was stolen
JWU_42: Roman is a decent guy - maybe not a security expert though...
Diablo-D3: who the fuck puts 24k btc in a hot wallet
rg: they snagged an old backup of the wallet
rg: why dont you read the forum post before you continue
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.559 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.74 = 7.4 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: this whole clusterfuck makes my head hurt
Diablo-D3: why the fuck dont people take basic precautions
Diablo-D3: rg: back me up here and tell me Im not crazy
rg: Diablo-D3: everyone makes mistakes
Diablo-D3: and will someone just kickban goat already?
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.075 BTC [+]
rg: he has as much right to beh ere as you
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.147 = 0.294 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.1497889 = 0.4494 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.075 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: rg: yes, but at least I dont scam investors
Chaang-Noi: i will let d3 be d3 and will sleep, night everyone :)
rg: he didn't intentionally scam anyone
rg: oh i dont know anything about that
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 23 @ 0.00445 = 0.1024 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: neither do I, I just remember people bitching about it
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 3 @ 0.74 = 2.22 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9000 @ 0.00080701 = 7.2631 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5100 @ 0.00080701 = 4.1158 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 31 @ 0.96153846 = 29.8077 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 19 @ 0.98076923 = 18.6346 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: "Diablo-D3 | rg: yes, but at least I dont scam investors " No shit! This is exactly what you did with DMC
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: okay, so, if I "scammed investors" then why havent I bought my own caribbean island yet
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINTORRENTZ] 6 @ 0.749 = 4.494 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINTORRENTZ] 4 @ 0.75 = 3 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: buy your logic, or rather lack of it, every scammer has a island. No wonder DMC is worth nothing ... LOL
EskimoBob: you are amazingly stupid man. Honestly.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00040094 = 3.5283 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00040398 = 7.9584 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9656 @ 0.0004048 = 3.9087 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00040503 = 7.5336 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 893 @ 0.00040503 = 0.3617 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: Im stupid because Im making fun of you? thats not quite how it works
Diablo-D3: you seriously think pirate and that bitcoinica guy own an island
EskimoBob: let me quote you your own stupidity "Diablo-D3 | EskimoBob: okay, so, if I "scammed investors" then why havent I bought my own caribbean island yet "
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 10 @ 0.053 = 0.53 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 7 @ 0.05110001 = 0.3577 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 5 @ 0.0361011 = 0.1805 BTC [-]
exahash: fyi - there are lots of islands that arent't that expensive
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 250 @ 0.036101 = 9.0253 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13000 @ 0.00080386 = 10.4502 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1228 @ 0.00080701 = 0.991 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: exahash: he wasted the BTC on who know what. There is nothing left to bu a island ... LOL !
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: DMC [1@0.85BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.036101 BTC. Capital gain: -0.813899 BTC. Total: -0.78754086 BTC. (-92.7%)
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: DMC [1@0.5BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.036101 BTC. Capital gain: -0.463899 BTC. Total: -0.43754086 BTC. (-87.5%)
exahash: @mircea_popescu - what? the islands site?
exahash: that sites been around for over 10 years. I don't "know" 100% its not scam, as I have not bought an island through them.
exahash: its basically an mls site for islands instead of houses
exahash: I have read the magazine that goes with it
exahash: pretty sure they're legit, and have nothing to do with bitcoin
mircea_popescu: i never saw it before, sounded like a silly internet scam domain
exahash: look at the higher priced ones :-)
exahash: so they can't see your house from a boat?
exahash: and protection from the ocean
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 4 @ 0.8601 = 3.4404 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 4 @ 0.86 = 3.44 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5071 @ 0.003393 = 17.2059 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 92 @ 0.1041 = 9.5772 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: we all know you got lots of shit on your page. No need to advertise it
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 2 @ 0.16889 = 0.3378 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.1689 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 95 @ 0.1041 = 9.8895 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1866 @ 0.00080701 = 1.5059 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 17234 @ 0.0008094 = 13.9492 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00039812 = 9.4354 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE:FDBF] [Bid: 0.149] [Ask: 0.15] [Spread: 0.001] [Last: 0.15] [24hVol: 29.69999805] [7dAvg: 0.14843927]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.799 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 23 @ 0.8 = 18.4 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: in the immortal words of myself, "Trying to be part of a cryptocurrency without knowing how to use gpg is like trying to be part of the 60s without knowing how to use a bong."
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABIF] 1 @ 0.99403 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2764 @ 0.00039812 = 1.1004 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6736 @ 0.00039797 = 2.6807 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.795 = 1.59 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.7945 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 18 @ 0.79 = 14.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.75 = 3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.058 = 0.464 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.058 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0575 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.057 = 0.171 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.0001222 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.05555 = 0.4444 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [LTC-MINING] 10 @ 0.65 = 6.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 2 @ 0.99 = 1.98 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 30 @ 0.15 = 4.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5000 @ 0.0008089 = 4.0445 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11600 @ 0.0007977 = 9.2533 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 24900 @ 0.00079414 = 19.7741 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5511 @ 0.00079257 = 4.3679 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2989 @ 0.00078855 = 2.357 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 3 @ 0.798 = 2.394 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 2 @ 0.12 = 0.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.117 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3909 @ 0.00082042 = 3.207 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 300 @ 0.00082103 = 0.2463 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 2 @ 0.1111 = 0.2222 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 10 @ 0.101 = 1.01 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 3 @ 0.1000001 = 0.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 28 @ 0.10000001 = 2.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 17 @ 0.10000001 = 1.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.094 = 0.188 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 10 @ 0.0931 = 0.931 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 4 @ 0.15 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 4 @ 0.391 = 1.564 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 12 @ 0.3901 = 4.6812 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 6 @ 0.798 = 4.788 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 2 @ 0.798 = 1.596 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 3 @ 0.39 = 1.17 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 10 @ 0.06100001 = 0.61 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29164 @ 0.00039797 = 11.6064 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 736 @ 0.00039784 = 0.2928 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.73400001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.734 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 5 @ 0.3901 = 1.9505 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.5501 = 2.7505 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 6 @ 0.065 = 0.39 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 5 @ 0.108 = 0.54 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [LTC-MINING] 9 @ 0.65 = 5.85 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.73400001 = 1.468 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 3 @ 0.09398 = 0.2819 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 900 @ 0.00082133 = 0.7392 BTC [+]
gabbynot: anyone know how many outstanding shares of tygrr.bond-p there are?
gabbynot: it says 38402, but there were only 27895 on last dividend payment
Diablo-D3: people bought them after last dividend payment I guess
gabbynot: it never jumped by that much in a week
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.003393 = 0.0679 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
gabbynot: nyan.c should be worth a bundle if matthew actually pays everyone
mircea_popescu: i think i have some confederate bonds somewhere, i should make a glbse fund
mircea_popescu: they'll be worth quite a bit just as soon as general lee wins the war.
gabbynot: isn't friday his deadline for the bets?
assbot: [GLBSE] [JLP-BMD] 1 @ 0.09999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 15 @ 0.0001222 = 0.0018 BTC [-]
gabbynot: the forum stuff is entertaining. way better than any movie.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 30 @ 0.00024 = 0.0072 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Petition to Shutdown BTC-e and have all assests given back to the tax payers
rdponticelli: MrWubbles: Wasn't you the one who make a shitton hacking btc-e?
copumpkin: MrWubbles is full of shit, most of the time
gribble: Nick 'MrWubbles', with hostmask 'MrWubbles!~suckmywub@24.69.197.34', is not identified.
rdponticelli: It was a nice show. You could watch the consecuences of hyperinflation on fast forward
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1041 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 39 @ 0.09 = 3.51 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2500 @ 0.003393 = 8.4825 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00039784 = 8.0762 BTC [-]
gribble: Best bid: 10.515, Best ask: 10.55, Bid-ask spread: 0.03500, Last trade: 10.55, 24 hour volume: 27817, 24 hour low: 10.181, 24 hour high: 10.6
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 9 @ 0.32 = 2.88 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i suppose next time mpoe-pr says x is shit they remember this and pay fucking deference.
mircea_popescu: this is like confusing wall street with the bowery for chrissakes.
mircea_popescu: not implying they're au par with sr, just pulled a name.
rdponticelli: Ok, I thought there was some order of magnitude away....
mircea_popescu: if the 6k a month figure is correct then that's less than sd's last.
mircea_popescu: also hard to guess how much seals makes, but a few k might be it.
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: do even you believe this crap you write?
EskimoBob: is there another channel where I can see GLBSE trades and not this shit you write?
EskimoBob: for fuck sake, start your own mpx-scam channel and fuck off for good
kakobrekla: you are looking for #bitcoin-assets-trades
EskimoBob: ignore is good idea because this bull shit is not funny any more
EskimoBob: i know you are not greek. I told you this long time ago. How thick are you?
usagi: CPA would solve so many of this world's problems
usagi: It's a pity that guy didn't have a contract with us.
EskimoBob: nothing wrong with my ignore, You just have not made it to the list yet
usagi: Just imagine a big bandaid over the asshole with CPA written on it. "CPA. Protecting you from goatse spam before it even begins". Hmm. I wonder if that would be a viable advertising campaign for a bus or a subway or somehthing
mircea_popescu: have you ever done advertising on a bus or a subway or something ?
usagi: kakobrekla: /ignore who?
EskimoBob: looking at mpex, I guess you know all about advertising. Please, mircea_popescu, amuse us
usagi: Oh him.... right, right...
usagi: I didn't notice :p
usagi: eskimobob: Is he talking about glbse again?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00039934 = 0.9185 BTC [+]
MrWubbles: Mr Supa known for his work in the softmod console community as well as his Noob Guides to P2Pool
usagi: Oh poker again.. lol, thats another one... he mentions poker a lot doesn't he
MrWubbles: among various commits and pushes on git
usagi: Something about poker players making it in bitcoin
usagi: you should come on over here EskimoBob. To the mature side. *sniffs air* Aaaah, it's a beautiful day!
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 300 @ 0.003393 = 1.0179 BTC [+]
MrWubbles: you can not shoot what you can not see
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE:FDBF] [Bid: 0.149] [Ask: 0.15] [Spread: 0.001] [Last: 0.15] [24hVol: 26.99999857] [7dAvg: 0.14847284]
assbot: !pl <ticker> [<amount>@]<bought at> [<YYYY-MM-DD>]
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: DMC [1@1BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.036101 BTC. Capital gain: -0.963899 BTC. Total: -0.93754086 BTC. (-93.8%)
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 16 @ 0.1041 = 1.6656 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1041 BTC [-]
gribble: Best bid: 10.6, Best ask: 10.62, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 10.62, 24 hour volume: 29104, 24 hour low: 10.181, 24 hour high: 10.64499
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 13 @ 0.075 = 0.975 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 5 @ 0.0799 = 0.3995 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 50 @ 0.07999999 = 4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 50 @ 0.0855 = 4.275 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 20 @ 0.085989 = 1.7198 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 7 @ 0.08699 = 0.6089 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 5 @ 0.087199 = 0.436 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 18 @ 0.08899 = 1.6018 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 9 @ 0.751 = 6.759 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 7 @ 0.75 = 5.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 86 @ 0.0096 = 0.8256 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.0999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.7111 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 9 @ 0.711 = 6.399 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla : twitter discards identical updates. sometimes ppl buy 1k options blocks in sucession and only one gets reported. if i add some code at the end of the twitter message will it bork your bot ?
kakobrekla: well microtime makes at least some sense
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00039934 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1041 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.141 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.137 = 0.411 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00039934 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00039934 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.136 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.134 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.129 = 0.516 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 31 @ 0.12730011 = 3.9463 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.12720011 = 1.272 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.12710001 = 1.271 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.12710001 = 0.3813 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 19 @ 0.00999999 = 0.19 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.0999 = 0.999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.0999 = 1.998 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12902 @ 0.00040052 = 5.1675 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37125 @ 0.00040067 = 14.8749 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C010T] 750 @ 0.9068351 = 680.1263 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11273 @ 0.00040067 = 4.5168 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33216 @ 0.00039934 = 13.2645 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3511 @ 0.00039926 = 1.4018 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: maybe there's wisdom to the ponderous way the crowd ends up doing things.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3189 @ 0.00039926 = 1.2732 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: thinking about it... as someone pointed out, not like there's that many innocent bystanders that might haven ot heard about it.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5591 @ 0.00082104 = 4.5904 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 10 @ 0.00999999 = 0.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.104 = 0.52 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 10 @ 0.14 = 1.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.104 = 0.416 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 9 @ 0.641 = 5.769 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 40 @ 0.6 = 24 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 9 @ 0.571 = 5.139 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 300 @ 0.57 = 171 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1041 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.104 = 0.416 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.37899218 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 3 @ 0.0001222 = 0.0004 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 2 @ 0.125 = 0.25 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: But I wanted a postcard with pirate's avatar on an island on a longchair. With caption: "Thanks to the crew for another succesful plundering. Arrr mateys!"