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dub: !pl DMC
assbot: !pl <ticker> [<amount>@]<bought at> [<YYYY-MM-DD>]
dub: !pl DMC 0.07
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: DMC [1@0.07BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.07 BTC. Capital gain: 0 BTC. Total: 0.02635814 BTC. (37.7%)
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.14999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.84499899 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.84499899 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5442 @ 0.00085513 = 4.6536 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6600 @ 0.00085394 = 5.636 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7579 @ 0.00085209 = 6.458 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 17400 @ 0.00084999 = 14.7898 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2979 @ 0.00084845 = 2.5275 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.10353999 = 1.0354 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.13033003 = 5.2132 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 7 @ 0.15 = 1.05 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 1 @ 0.15 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 100 @ 0.15 = 15 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.10353999 = 2.0708 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.4567 = 0.9134 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 245 @ 0.20112911 = 49.2766 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 6 @ 0.0941 = 0.5646 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 7 @ 0.0942 = 0.6594 BTC [+]
smickles: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 10.33
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 3 @ 0.20112911 = 0.6034 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 20 @ 0.08 = 1.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1 @ 0.15338189 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 10 @ 0.90384615 = 9.0385 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 23 @ 0.92307692 = 21.2308 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 50 @ 1 = 50 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [UDN] 2 @ 0.0998 = 0.1996 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: !ticker bakewell
assbot: [GLBSE:BAKEWELL] [Bid: 0.125] [Ask: 0.15] [Spread: 0.025] [Last: 0.15] [24hVol: 16.2] [7dAvg: 0.15]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 99 @ 0.1035 = 10.2465 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.10353999 = 5.177 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 124 @ 0.10354 = 12.839 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: well
kakobrekla: he doubled his ipo costs
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.10354 = 5.177 BTC [+]
smickles: that sounds sad
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.143 = 2.145 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10723 @ 0.0003855 = 4.1337 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17477 @ 0.00038548 = 6.737 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 64 @ 0.10355 = 6.6272 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11562 @ 0.00038567 = 4.4591 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00038815 = 5.4341 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37601 @ 0.00038846 = 14.6065 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Wasn't it 0.15 all the time?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30178 @ 0.00038863 = 11.7281 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47800 @ 0.00038875 = 18.5823 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9192 @ 0.00039013 = 3.5861 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.00039013 = 10.0654 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00039174 = 3.1731 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20994 @ 0.0003926 = 8.2422 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00039272 = 7.069 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33736 @ 0.00039294 = 13.2562 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00039343 = 4.6425 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00039344 = 1.6918 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00039409 = 11.1133 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59700 @ 0.00039464 = 23.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00039541 = 5.0217 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59100 @ 0.00039624 = 23.4178 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40700 @ 0.00039675 = 16.1477 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15137 @ 0.00039696 = 6.0088 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 384 @ 0.00039817 = 0.1529 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00039886 = 1.2764 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56700 @ 0.00039962 = 22.6585 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00039983 = 10.0757 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0004 = 0.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3974 @ 0.00040217 = 1.5982 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20942 @ 0.00040302 = 8.44 BTC [+]
smickles: that's a fucken' buy
BTC-Mining: Nah....
usagi: So let me understand this
BTC-Mining: that's only like 100 BTC
usagi: twenty plus individual people
usagi: had orders for that?
usagi: With orders averaging... 5bts?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 12000 @ 0.0034 = 40.8 BTC [+]
usagi: Looks like one person trying to spam irc.
smickles: usagi: have you seen the book an that thing?
usagi: In other words, someone is acting to intentionally decieve people here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 74 @ 0.00377777 = 0.2796 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 738 @ 0.00378 = 2.7896 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1188 @ 0.003801 = 4.5156 BTC [+]
usagi: Likely for the gain of free advertising, or to give the impression that MPEX does a lot of volume.
smickles: fake bids with real btc, eh?
usagi: An intentional act to decieve made for gain is the legal definition of fraud.
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 41500 @ 0.001028 = 42.662 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 58500 @ 0.00103 = 60.255 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 49 @ 0.10355 = 5.074 BTC [+]
smickles: usagi: what makes you think those arn't real asks that were bid into?
Rothgar: ;;join #bitcoin-market
gribble: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
usagi: Oh they were real
usagi: Just the pattern seems weird
usagi: Obviously that was one buy
usagi: So why are there so many little sells?
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 50 @ 0.01 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [STANDARD.GOLD] 13 @ 0.00000026 BTC [-]
copumpkin: usagi: because it probably reports every order crossed
copumpkin: a bit like mtgox in its annoying emails
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 3 @ 0.9 = 2.7 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: yeah
Diablo-D3: its one order
usagi: Yeah, but why are there so many little sells :p
usagi: in the first place
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 77 @ 0.003393 = 0.2613 BTC [-]
copumpkin: because someone's market making
copumpkin: or attempting to, or something
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 10 @ 0.00012433 = 0.0012 BTC [+]
smickles: usagi: the 'i'm just asking questions' approach is not cool
usagi: Here I'm not just asking questions
Diablo-D3: usagi: bots
Diablo-D3: and assholes trying to put up fake walls
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [+]
smickles: if you think it's fraud, that's a positive accusation. which in an actual discussion, holds the burden of proof
usagi: Where is the fraud?
smickles: what did you even mention fraud for then?
usagi: A fraud is an intentional act to decieve for gain... The act of fraud here lies in why so many small orders were made
usagi: I was speculating.
copumpkin: usagi: it's fairly common, if you're providing liquidity for something, to make a ladder of small orders
smickles: so many small orders does not imply fraud
copumpkin: instead of a wall
Diablo-D3: whats fraud?
Diablo-D3: tiny funny sized amounts?
Diablo-D3: its just bots being fucktards
usagi: Most bots suck
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.14999999 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: WAAAAAARS THE DIVIDENDS!
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 9 @ 0.71 = 6.39 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 10 @ 0.15 = 1.5 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 52 @ 0.00315 = 0.1638 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.003 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 200 @ 0.0029 = 0.58 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 479 @ 0.0028 = 1.3412 BTC [-]
Namworld: Why the sudden interest in Bakewell?
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 10 @ 0.14999999 = 1.5 BTC [+]
Namworld: The owner keeps 20% for himself
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0028 = 0.0056 BTC [-]
usagi: Bakewell's security is insured by CPA
usagi: If he takes the money and runs, we pay out.
usagi: http://dollarcollapse.com/category/welcome-to-the-third-world/
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 12 @ 0.08 = 0.96 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 14 @ 0.14999999 = 2.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 10 @ 0.15 = 1.5 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 1 @ 0.15 BTC
Diablo-D3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTMRPs8LUkg&feature=related
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 10 @ 0.72 = 7.2 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: mindfuck speed.
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 5 @ 0.73 = 3.65 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 15 @ 0.7779999 = 11.67 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0034 = 34 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 5 @ 0.73 = 3.65 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11737 @ 0.00084845 = 9.9583 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6600 @ 0.00084329 = 5.5657 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 600 @ 0.00084306 = 0.5058 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5500 @ 0.00083837 = 4.611 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 563 @ 0.0008259 = 0.465 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1033 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 30 @ 0.10265 = 3.0795 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.10265 = 2.053 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 24 @ 0.10260001 = 2.4624 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 9 @ 0.99 = 8.91 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.62 = 1.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 14 @ 0.63999 = 8.9599 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.456 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 4 @ 0.948 = 3.792 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.10355 = 1.0355 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JTME] 4 @ 0.9499 = 3.7996 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.10355 = 0.2071 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 7 @ 0.14999999 = 1.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 20 @ 0.01 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.799 = 3.196 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.08899 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 3 @ 0.949 = 2.847 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 5 @ 0.964 = 4.82 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 1 @ 0.965 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.071 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 4 @ 0.07 = 0.28 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: usagi yes, it is called liquidity.
mircea_popescu: can't blame you for going a little nuts if you've never seen it before.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7600 @ 0.00085519 = 6.4994 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 40 @ 0.9 = 36 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 40 @ 0.0147 = 0.588 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.8252 = 4.9512 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 45 @ 0.8251 = 37.1295 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.825 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.821 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.821 = 4.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.820201 = 4.101 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.820201 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.820101 = 4.1005 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.82 = 2.46 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.82 = 4.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.814 = 3.256 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1032 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.814 = 4.07 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 25 @ 0.81311 = 20.3278 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 9 @ 0.813 = 7.317 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.811 = 2.433 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 8 @ 0.801 = 6.408 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1035499 = 0.2071 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.801 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 7 @ 0.8 = 5.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 9 @ 0.791 = 7.119 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.7901 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 11 @ 0.79 = 8.69 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 20 @ 0.78 = 15.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.75 = 3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 7 @ 0.73 = 5.11 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.72 = 2.16 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.711 = 2.844 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7368 @ 0.00085662 = 6.3116 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 19237 @ 0.0008259 = 15.8878 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15600 @ 0.00081834 = 12.7661 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 14600 @ 0.00081753 = 11.9359 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11710 @ 0.00080409 = 9.4159 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15829 @ 0.00079485 = 12.5817 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5656 @ 0.00078324 = 4.43 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 18044 @ 0.00078324 = 14.1328 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7097 @ 0.00078132 = 5.545 BTC [-]
Namworld: "DUMP ALL THE GIGAMINING!" said the internet meme.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12800 @ 0.0007757 = 9.929 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 14219 @ 0.00076777 = 10.9169 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2840 @ 0.00075382 = 2.1408 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2560 @ 0.00075382 = 1.9298 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 14016 @ 0.00075354 = 10.5616 BTC [-]
Namworld: Looks like it's going down the drain. What's the news about that?
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 5 @ 0.0942 = 0.471 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 25000 @ 0.00071 = 17.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 150000 @ 0.0007 = 105 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 75000 @ 0.00069 = 51.75 BTC [-]
smickles: !ticker f.giga.etf
smickles: !ticker gigamining
assbot: [MPEX:F.GIGA.ETF] 1day: 0.00069 / 0.00077074 / 0.00086192 (593244 shares, 457.24 BTC), 30day: 0.00064789 / 0.00096382 / 0.00115139 (9201962 shares, 8,869.07 BTC)
assbot: [GLBSE:GIGAMINING] [Bid: 0.711] [Ask: 0.8409] [Spread: 0.1299] [Last: 0.711] [24hVol: 600.15089409] [7dAvg: 0.84742098]
Namworld: Goodbye Gigamining =/
Namworld: Some huge dumps
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3850 @ 0.00069 = 2.6565 BTC [-]
Namworld: Let's see what gets purchased now...
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13 @ 0.00069 = 0.009 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 18800 @ 0.00103 = 19.364 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.0034 = 13.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3200 @ 0.00069 = 2.208 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15000 @ 0.00069 = 10.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 2 @ 0.099 = 0.198 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.41000003 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 5 @ 0.41000002 = 2.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 9 @ 0.41 = 3.69 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 6 @ 0.07 = 0.42 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 9 @ 0.386 = 3.474 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 8 @ 1.01 = 8.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 1 @ 0.5005 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 10 @ 0.5 = 5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 4 @ 0.74 = 2.96 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.0003926 = 0.0785 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42136 @ 0.00039285 = 16.5531 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6764 @ 0.00039416 = 2.6661 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS] 1 @ 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.07 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 0.948598 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 8 @ 0.11 = 0.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 80 @ 0.0096 = 0.768 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 50 @ 0.301 = 15.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 7 @ 0.3001 = 2.1007 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 19 @ 0.30001 = 5.7002 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 2 @ 0.30001 = 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 10 @ 0.300001 = 3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 100 @ 0.3 = 30 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 80 @ 0.31 = 24.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 165 @ 0.32 = 52.8 BTC [-]
Rothgar: !ticker GSDPT
assbot: [GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.003015] [Ask: 0.003393] [Spread: 0.000378] [Last: 0.0028] [24hVol: 93.5888362] [7dAvg: 0.00327638]
nefario: tier 2 sponsorship is now available for bitcoin2012
dub: awesome
nefario: first 5 spots get £70 discount
dub: when is GLBSE going to be usable?
nefario: lol
nefario: soon
nefario: seriously though
dub: every time you say that
nefario: new charts are on the way
dub: we believe you a little less
nefario: because it IS going to be soon
dub: but carry on with your more important shit
nefario: http://67.222.146.58:9999/asset/view/BITBOND
nefario: look here
dub: like getting all teh dumbest bitcoiners together :)
nefario: teh?
nefario: teh dumberist?
Bane_Capital: nefario: how about that refund
nefario: lol
nefario: BANE!!!!!
nefario: also
nefario: no refunds
Bane_Capital: You
Bane_Capital: said you would give me one
Bane_Capital: over email
nefario: are you sure?
Bane_Capital: Emanuel
Bane_Capital: That's my name
Bane_Capital: oh my mistake
Bane_Capital: Yeah, I see that policy
Bane_Capital: Sorry.
nefario: dub: opinion on the new version of charts?
nefario: run from memory so it's lightning fast
nefario: I hope
Namworld: Nefario, are you going to hide frozen assets/expired assets from the market?
nefario: you talking about pass throughs?
nefario: PPT's?
Namworld: passthrough, scams, etc.
mircea_popescu: dmc...
Namworld: Anything expired/frozen
Namworld: Which cannot be traded
nefario: have you got a list?
nefario: also
nefario: opinion on this
nefario: http://67.222.146.58:9999/asset/view/BITBOND
nefario: hover over a price
nefario: on the chart
nefario: should give it to ya
dub: nefario: fugly
dub: why fuck up the bid/ask like that?
kakobrekla: price is not showing in opera
kakobrekla: only vol
nefario: kakobrekla: thats too bad
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1438 = 0.719 BTC [+]
nefario: I've got a fast fix for that though
dub: love your priorities though
kakobrekla: stop using glbse
kakobrekla: k
nefario: give me a second
nefario: while you download firefox
kakobrekla: lol
dub: gaying up the charts is clearly more important that sub-minute page loads
nefario: dub, the backend for the new charts is really fast
nefario: the charts are only the lipstick
nefario: the new thing is the backend
kakobrekla: fast but it doesnt work.
mircea_popescu: o hey, fixed the order book so it looks sane now. well done nefario.
nefario: in OPERA
nefario: which means it works
mircea_popescu: (it still takes ~1 minute)
Namworld: dub, I think the data for the charts was already loading in full anyway.
nefario: reallyhmmm
nefario: need to talk to rg
nefario: since it's on his service that Im running this
Namworld: The javascript to display probably changed, only that. Shouldn't make much of a difference, that's processed by your computer anyway.
nefario: also some interesting new
nefario: news
Namworld: Never, it's a broker
Namworld: Your interface is like a stock market backend.
dub: nefario: do you exclusively use an ipad to access the itnernet?
nefario: no!
nefario: I use a toshiba satelite now
nefario: :D
mircea_popescu: Namworld right-o.
nefario: with the death of my last notebook
nefario: had to get a new one
nefario: although
nefario: I expect this is leading to another dig from dub about the site
nefario: tooltips work
nefario: hover over the graph
nefario: will give you the price and date
mircea_popescu: there's a graph ?
mircea_popescu: i don't see a graph ?
nefario: date is currently foobar
Namworld: well it might not be blazing fast, but at least it gets a bit faster each time it gets a bit heavier on each page. Somehow...
nefario: also
Namworld: So I suppose the speed is improving
nefario: will be adding a slider
nefario: to limit what trades are shown
nefario: set the slider to the price you want
nefario: and it will only show trades under that price in the graph
nefario: fixing the single trade at high price graph foobar stuff
mircea_popescu: http://browsershots.org/http://67.222.146.58:9999/asset/view/BITBOND
mircea_popescu: well the site mostly doesn't load.
mircea_popescu: when it does load i see a hole and then the volume graph.
nefario: also adding live streaming soon as well, using websocket, for new orders, trades, dividends etc.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 5 @ 0.15 = 0.75 BTC
mircea_popescu: http://api.browsershots.org/png/original/64/64f1bc22d6d0a33c6f7dad7fb9f2a247.png o hey, in seamonkey it does work. okay.
Namworld: Works from here in firefox
Namworld: I don't like the new orderbook display however.
mircea_popescu: why not ?
nefario: Namworld: we'll be adding live streaming of new orders as they are made
nefario: you'll be able to have a bot sit there waiting
assbot: [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 1 @ 0.15 BTC
Namworld: ordering the bids over the ask like that, I just don't like it. Takes too much space
Namworld: I prefer to have them side by side like it is now
nefario: there are two kinds of space
nefario: vertical and horizontal
nefario: this takes up less horizontal
nefario: also limits the number of bids to 10 shown
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 5 @ 0.07 = 0.35 BTC [-]
Namworld: What if I want to see all the bids/asks?
nefario: API
nefario: or
nefario: we might have a separate page for all bids and asks
kakobrekla: when will you be fixin the api
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.14 = 7 BTC [-]
dub: kakobrekla: SOON
kakobrekla: hm
nefario: kakobrekla: whats wrong with the API?
kakobrekla: i need tranfers from acc to acc and souch
dub: right after the inaugural bitcoin sticky biscuit convention
nefario: you've played that game?
nefario: I thought it was only legend
kakobrekla: nefario https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104649.msg1154749#msg1154749
kakobrekla: also this makes it the third time
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
nefario: kakobrekla: I don't know if I want to add transfers to the API
nefario: at least not yet
kakobrekla: why
nefario: have you hooked it up to mtgox yet?
kakobrekla: tux even coded me a private api
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.722 = 2.888 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.721 = 2.884 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.72 = 3.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 15 @ 0.712 = 10.68 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.711 = 2.844 BTC [-]
nefario: I'll see what I can do.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.711 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: k
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
Namworld: Bonjour Transisto
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 2 @ 0.14999999 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.672 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.671 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 15 @ 0.1033 = 1.5495 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 18 @ 0.078 = 1.404 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.839999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.137 = 4.11 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 300 @ 0.003015 = 0.9045 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 25 @ 0.003015 = 0.0754 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINRS] 2 @ 0.05 = 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.0942 = 0.2826 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.0956 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1033 = 0.5165 BTC [-]
Rothgar: !ticker GSDPT
assbot: [GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.003015] [Ask: 0.00338] [Spread: 0.000365] [Last: 0.003015] [24hVol: 94.5687112] [7dAvg: 0.00327145]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 3 @ 1.063 = 3.189 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 97 @ 1.0625 = 103.0625 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 18 @ 0.14999999 = 2.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1033 = 1.033 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 123 @ 0.0899 = 11.0577 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 79 @ 0.091 = 7.189 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 159 @ 0.09379999 = 14.9142 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 10 @ 0.094 = 0.94 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 4 @ 0.099 = 0.396 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 10 @ 0.09989 = 0.9989 BTC [+]
smickles: !ticker s.dice
smickles: !ticker gsdpt
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0034 / 0.0034 / 0.0034 (102487 shares, 348.46 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.0032717 / 0.0034 (3507500 shares, 11,475.50 BTC)
assbot: [GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.003015] [Ask: 0.00338] [Spread: 0.000365] [Last: 0.003015] [24hVol: 94.5687112] [7dAvg: 0.00327145]
smickles: !ticker f.giga.etf
smickles: !ticker f.giga.etf
assbot: [MPEX:F.GIGA.ETF] 1day: 0.00069 / 0.00076477 / 0.00086192 (590307 shares, 451.45 BTC), 30day: 0.00064789 / 0.00096316 / 0.00115139 (9224025 shares, 8,884.30 BTC)
smickles: !ticker gigamining
assbot: [MPEX:F.GIGA.ETF] 1day: 0.00069 / 0.00076477 / 0.00086192 (590307 shares, 451.45 BTC), 30day: 0.00064789 / 0.00096316 / 0.00115139 (9224025 shares, 8,884.30 BTC)
assbot: [GLBSE:GIGAMINING] [Bid: 0.79] [Ask: 0.8399] [Spread: 0.0499] [Last: 0.839999] [24hVol: 482.52399329] [7dAvg: 0.84155518]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 27 @ 0.075 = 2.025 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 4 @ 0.070001 = 0.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 175 @ 0.07 = 12.25 BTC [-]
smickles: "then they, ya know, gently shove it in"
Obsi: sounds kinky
smickles: Obsi: it's a quote of adam curry talking about how he thinks the media programs your brain
smickles: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 10.36
smickles: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.42001, Best ask: 10.5, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 10.5, 24 hour volume: 22779, 24 hour low: 10.08889, 24 hour high: 10.5934
Rothgar: low volume
mircea_popescu: been low for a while now.
Rothgar: I take that as bullish
Rothgar: This is a nice channel, no one spams
Rothgar: anyway, I'm going to head on
Rothgar: Have fun watching assbot
Rothgar: he he he ... ass
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the bot really needs a website somewhere
mircea_popescu: so that inquiring minds can check out its ass
mircea_popescu: ets.
Rothgar: :)
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [-]
smickles: _that_ass_
smickles: mircea_popescu: encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Assbot coming soon
mircea_popescu: haha cool
smickles: (i need a good pic, i'm sure you can help out)
mircea_popescu: hmm
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/3553.html or http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/767.html
mircea_popescu: pick & choose.
smickles: nice, a whole thread
jcpham: hi
smickles: hiya jcpham :)
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2768 @ 0.00078764 = 2.1802 BTC [+]
Obsi: I vote for: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/133371961864.jpg (NSFW)
jcpham: what a milkly white ass she has
mircea_popescu: obsi is a girl that has a taste for ass ?!
mircea_popescu: and that IS a nice ass too
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCWEB] 5 @ 0.109 = 0.545 BTC [+]
smickles: Obsi: i may have to go for that one, i doube that admin will go for anything with actual naughty bits showing
Obsi: wow I think I found the definition of BADONKADONK http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/128235540939.jpg (NSFW)
mircea_popescu: that's pretty bad oink :D
smickles: oh my
mircea_popescu: it reminds me of this bed that got broken when i was a kid.
smickles: plus, nothing says assbot like and ass of that ... 'stature'
smickles: er
smickles: re the badonkadon
Obsi: yeah that ass really says "ass"
mircea_popescu: i guess that's it then.
assbot: [GLBSE] [METAL.SILVER] 5 @ 0.099999 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00039143 = 5.4017 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16236 @ 0.00039416 = 6.3996 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5564 @ 0.00039478 = 2.1966 BTC [+]
smickles: well, it's a good end to the beginning
smickles: http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Assbot
Obsi: That makes me have a strange attraction to assbot now
mircea_popescu: lol desire for ass
mircea_popescu: istance.
smickles: mircea_popescu: in consideration of your statement, i'll route you to http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/User:Smickles
mircea_popescu: randiom page --> http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Mircea_Popescu
smickles: every time !
smickles: random page == mircea_popescu
smickles: :D I'm rich!
mircea_popescu: you should prolly do obsi nao
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.61 = 1.83 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.6001 = 3.6006 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 25 @ 0.6 = 15 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 36 @ 0.55 = 19.8 BTC [-]
smickles: oh shit, there's a solidcoin page now
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 2 @ 0.9 = 1.8 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Bitcoinica is a "Bitcoin Faucet" style free bitcoin giveaway site. Instead of a captcha to get your free bitcoins, you have to hack the site. This is much easier than any captcha however.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
mircea_popescu: The hacker was successful able to access an email server. This gave the attacker access to info@bitcoinica.com which in turn allowed them to reset passwords with our hosting provider, Rackspace.
mircea_popescu: lulzy.
smickles: "Soiledcoins are printed out of thin air and stored in the clouds" Lloolololllo
smickles: this site is generally brilliant
mircea_popescu: lmao so on bitcoinica site
mircea_popescu: if i click open claim
mircea_popescu: https://claims.bitcoinica.com/ Could not connect to remote server
mircea_popescu: You tried to access the address https://claims.bitcoinica.com/, which is currently unavailable.
mircea_popescu: dun dun dun
smickles: http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Main:Current_events :D
smickles: ^explains all the goatse
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 3 @ 0.9 = 2.7 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: you think it actually is pirate ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [JLP-BMD] 24 @ 0.09499 = 2.2798 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JLP-BMD] 1 @ 0.09499 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: omfg.
mircea_popescu: http://www.namworld.com/
mircea_popescu: this has got to go into the wiki.
Chaang-Noi: i was wondering if it was pirate before
mircea_popescu: this guy has better css skills than mine
smickles|m: Lol
smickles|m: I'm on the go bitches
Namworld: Except it's unrelated to bitcoins?
mircea_popescu: Namworld well you're the relation
Namworld: eh, then do it about me?
Namworld: Although, yes. I should definitly work on that design.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't touch it. it's incredible as it is.
mircea_popescu: why make more bootstrap sites ?
smickles|m: Dave Weiner likes bootstrap
Namworld: meh at bootstrap
Namworld: I have my own css/grid system
smickles|m: Damn, just got goatse'd on mobile
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134672677419.jpg i really like this pic
smickles: shit, had to shut that off
smickles: got goatse'd 4 more times in 3 seconds
mircea_popescu: i never got it.
Namworld: Maybe you're not in the otc?
Namworld: Nope
Namworld: Bot spy must not be in this channel
Namworld: Relaying your name to the infinite goatse spam bots
mircea_popescu: yeah
smickles: it has to be in this chan
mircea_popescu: not being in otc is smarter and smarter.
smickles: smickles|m was only in this chan
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00039109 = 0.0782 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59385 @ 0.00039081 = 23.2083 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: hmm odd
smickles: oh wai
smickles: t
smickles: it was in -otc too
mircea_popescu: :p
mircea_popescu: well ok, im off to sleep. take care all!
smickles: nn
Namworld: goodbye
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.74 = 2.96 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1033 = 0.5165 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so the advantage of running a stock exchange : my address now gets all sorts of "insider info" about various bs penny stocks.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.1494 = 0.2988 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 1 @ 0.15 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.1182 = 0.2364 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.0955 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 300 @ 0.00024 = 0.072 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.1494 = 0.8964 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.3863 = 2.3178 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.0955 = 0.191 BTC [-]
rg: welcome home nefario
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 22 @ 0.0956 = 2.1032 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.586 = 1.172 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00039051 = 0.5077 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.10546 = 0.4218 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 1 @ 1 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.10546 = 2.6365 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.10546 = 0.3164 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10546 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6972 @ 0.00076474 = 5.3318 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13528 @ 0.00076912 = 10.4047 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.0003915 = 7.7126 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39906 @ 0.0003902 = 15.5713 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1494 @ 0.00039009 = 0.5828 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.7313101 = 4.3879 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.7312102 = 1.4624 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.7312101 = 1.4624 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.74 = 7.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 17 @ 0.3999 = 6.7983 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2172 @ 0.00076912 = 1.6705 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7139 @ 0.00077166 = 5.5089 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12451 @ 0.00077238 = 9.6169 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 24500 @ 0.00077542 = 18.9978 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 19100 @ 0.00077602 = 14.822 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13600 @ 0.00077638 = 10.5588 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5800 @ 0.00077904 = 4.5184 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7380 @ 0.00078121 = 5.7653 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2000 @ 0.00078226 = 1.5645 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7500 @ 0.00078402 = 5.8802 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3246 @ 0.00080434 = 2.6109 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 230 @ 0.00080841 = 0.1859 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4882 @ 0.00081209 = 3.9646 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.79979 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00039009 = 4.291 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 9 @ 0.4 = 3.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.3999 = 2.3994 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.09 = 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00039557 = 0.0791 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9481 @ 0.00039586 = 3.7531 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11972 @ 0.00039654 = 4.7474 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 9 @ 0.117 = 1.053 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 63 @ 0.10545 = 6.6434 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 37 @ 0.1054599 = 3.902 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: bitfloor got gotten https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105818.0
mircea_popescu: oh ?!
mircea_popescu: wait, wasn't it a scam long ago ?
mircea_popescu: or no, im thinking about bitscalper.
kakobrekla: yeah
kakobrekla: bitscalper was scam
mircea_popescu: people need to get out of this bit bs
mircea_popescu: it's entirely contrary to their own interest. you make a logo with bit in it, people see and remember "bit"
mircea_popescu: and then where are you ? o, "that bit service" ? pff
copumpkin: butt*
mircea_popescu: now buttpumpkin on the other hand...
mircea_popescu: that has badonkadonk staying power.
kakobrekla: speaking of names
kakobrekla: i need one.
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 90 @ 0.11 = 9.9 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: dingle dongle ticolensic
mircea_popescu: or
mircea_popescu: Shönendanker-Kalbsfleisch-Mittler-Raucher von Hautkopft of Ulm
kakobrekla: :p
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu, theres a shitton of bit* domains and buisnesses
assbot: [GLBSE] [JTME] 11 @ 0.9498 = 10.4478 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yes i know
kakobrekla: bitstamp, bitpay,
kakobrekla: two well known and legit
mircea_popescu: bitinstant
kakobrekla: bitfloor apparently also :)
rdponticelli: quote bitfloor: the attacker gained accesses to an unencrypted backup of the wallet keys (the actual keys live in an encrypted area) << Nobody take security seariously here...
mircea_popescu: well no. bitinstant is that thing with the card no ?
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli the "ACTUAL" keys you see.
kakobrekla: i take security semi seriously
mircea_popescu: the problem with the current generation of youths is they honestly believe the designations they give to things in their heads are binding to the world at large.
mircea_popescu: if they call their ex a slut, she IS a slut
mircea_popescu: if they call these keys the UNACTUAL keys then they are "unactual"
rdponticelli: All keys are the "actual" keys
mircea_popescu: in normal time.
kakobrekla: lol
rdponticelli: OMG
rdponticelli: Well...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22071 @ 0.00039673 = 8.7562 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7628 @ 0.00039544 = 3.0164 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2687 @ 0.00039684 = 1.0663 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31285 @ 0.00039825 = 12.4593 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 163 @ 0.1054599 = 17.19 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 200 @ 0.1054799 = 21.096 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 37 @ 0.105499 = 3.9035 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 7 @ 0.94230769 = 6.5962 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 65 @ 0.0956 = 6.214 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 97 @ 0.09567 = 9.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 2 @ 0.14999999 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.79979 = 2.3994 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.0899 = 0.4495 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 885 @ 0.33593928 = 297.3063 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 885 @ 0.40300823 = 356.6623 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 2 @ 0.1479 = 0.2958 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 40 @ 0.1 = 4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 30 @ 0.148 = 4.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 40 @ 0.149 = 5.96 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 1 @ 0.191 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 1 @ 0.149 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 9 @ 0.122 = 1.098 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 37 @ 0.1081 = 3.9997 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 1 @ 0.10800001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 500 @ 0.108 = 54 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 5 @ 1 = 5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 45 @ 1.01 = 45.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.105499 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 1 @ 0.10799999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 25 @ 1 = 25 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 118 @ 0.00081209 = 0.0958 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5951 @ 0.00081396 = 4.8439 BTC [+]
nefario: ja pretty much
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 4 @ 0.117 = 0.468 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: what?
nefario: just talking
nefario: to myself
nefario: ...
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 36 @ 0.1079 = 3.8844 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 332 @ 0.108 = 35.856 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Oh... I see...
BTC-Mining: I've seen before people think aloud... but not think visibly...
nefario: wrong window actually
nefario: bitfloor?
assbot: [GLBSE] [JTME] 4 @ 0.9498 = 3.7992 BTC [-]
smickles: unencrypted backup; "a small majority" < WTF is a small majority?
nefario: what statement
smickles: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105818.0
nefario: lol
nefario: small majority
nefario: Im guessing its a typo
smickles: god damn, a small majority == nearly all
smickles: apparently
nefario: from what I read it's almost all the hot wallet
smickles: dammit, i'm sure i had a few coins in there
smickles: nefario: yeah, and there wasn't really a cold wallet
smickles: fucking morons
nefario: ooooooooh
nefario: ouch
kakobrekla: thats why i stay away from exchange biz
mircea_popescu: lmao small majority.
mircea_popescu: i must confess, people keep saying btc is not backed by anything
mircea_popescu: yes it is. btc is backed by lulz.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17815 @ 0.00039825 = 7.0948 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17634 @ 0.00040186 = 7.0864 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: and drama.
mircea_popescu: ya but mostly lulz
smickles: drulz
mircea_popescu: (now you say no, mostly drama and i say fuck you)
mircea_popescu: A SMALL MAJORITY OF LULZ!
rdponticelli: Facepalm type of lulz
kakobrekla: drama type of lulz
kakobrekla: (waiting for the fuck you..)
mircea_popescu: o o sorry. fuck type of you.
rdponticelli: It's reaching the point where it's tragedy more than drama
mircea_popescu: tragedlulz.
kakobrekla: dramgedy
mircea_popescu: you know someone's registering all these domains right ?
kakobrekla: :D
nefario: what domains
rdponticelli: The nice thing about btc is that comedy and tragedy happens simultaneously
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134677810274.png << which is the older sister ?
rdponticelli: You don't have to wait to the other side of the story
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli that's why it's called drama. tragedy + comedy.
kakobrekla: how much for the two
rdponticelli: Yea, but the facepalm part is missing
rdponticelli: :D
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla a pair of actual keys.
kakobrekla: :DDD
mircea_popescu: and a small majority.
kakobrekla: bah, my majority is large.
mircea_popescu: your majority is large ? my minority is large!
BTC-Mining: Ok, this is getting ridiculous, nearly every goddamn exchange, trading platform, online wallet have to close because "someone got access to servers"
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 20 @ 0.74 = 14.8 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: And there's never a godamn cold wallet ever
BTC-Mining: Don't people learn???
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining why are you such a hater ? they don't make servers like they used to
mircea_popescu: all sluts now.
BTC-Mining: Oh, that's right... I'm ranting about the lack of cold wallet tho.
mircea_popescu: and tbh, what i learned is to not have a hot wallet.
BTC-Mining: A hot wallet is practical...
mircea_popescu: i don't care.
mircea_popescu: im in the business of providing safety.
BTC-Mining: Just that it should have a very small amount
mircea_popescu: so then it'd be unpractical.
BTC-Mining: It would allow instant withdrawal
mircea_popescu: so ?
BTC-Mining: That's what you'd expect from an exchange/online wallet
BTC-Mining: Not wait 12 hour for the admin to login and process manually
mircea_popescu: you can expect it till you're blue in the face. what i expect from an exchange is TO NOT BE OWNED
mircea_popescu: right, because you can't plan your life 12 hours in advance.
BTC-Mining: Hey, when you find something and want to pay for it, but have an online wallet, you still want to pay immediately
mircea_popescu: maybe my spartan ideas are more adequate to some applications than others.
BTC-Mining: Thing is, you can keep operating with a hot wallet for instant withdrawal if you take care about security and keep it small enough that you can cover a potential hack.
mircea_popescu: right. theoretically.
BTC-Mining: At worse some payments can't be processed immediately I guess.
smickles: hacks seem to be garaunteed
smickles: so having a hot wallet seems to be a garaunteed loss
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.79979 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: this_is_dog hello ?
smickles: and money shouldn't be a business' loss leader
this_is_dog: hello
this_is_dog: ues
this_is_dog: this is dog
smickles: it should be doublemints or somethign
mircea_popescu: dog hello ?
dog: http://img3i.www.spoki.lv/upload2/articles/51/516169/images/HELLO-YES-THIS-IS-DOG-11.jpg
JWU_42: http://img3i.www.spoki.lv/upload2/articles/51/516169/images/HELLO-YES-THIS-IS-DOG-11.jpg
dog: omg
mircea_popescu: Last night, a few of our servers were compromised.
mircea_popescu: dude this is so cute
mircea_popescu: we had 56349875 servers
mircea_popescu: 2837 were compromised
mircea_popescu: gtfo, he had a vps.
dog: lol
JWU_42: a double dog
mircea_popescu: http://www.goodtimecharlieblog.com/wp-content/uploads/image-import/_lZoQPvGfdG8/SguzVajVAWI/AAAAAAAABOY/axGQ35qUcJ8/s400/DoubleDong.jpg
mircea_popescu: build a better double dog...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6853 @ 0.00040186 = 2.7539 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ...and you won't need no hss
BTC-Mining: smickles: MtGox seems to be fine. They got hacked at some point but managed through it and improved security.
mircea_popescu: BitFloor is currently the #4 USD exchange and #1 in the US.
mircea_popescu: how did he figure that ?
BTC-Mining: The thing is, any server used for financial transactions is a prime target for attacks
dog: double dog dare?
rdponticelli: In any case, it WAS
mircea_popescu: well anyway that forum post killed him
rdponticelli: You can't keep your position after losing all your assets
mircea_popescu: that's not how you go about what he claims he's trying to accomplish
BTC-Mining: And having secure servers for financial transactions is a VERY COMPLEX FIELD. There is absolutly ZERO room for error and must be set up correctly.
BTC-Mining: Which tends to cost a lot to implement.
mircea_popescu: right.
BTC-Mining: Which is why it seems we're going more and more centralized with MtGox
BTC-Mining: All the small exchanges/wallet don't have the means to do it.
rdponticelli: That's how we end up on the financial system we know today
rdponticelli: 5% any transaction....
BTC-Mining: They don't even TRY! Everything on hot goddam wallet.
rdponticelli: I'm sure that btc can be a lot more efficient
rdponticelli: But we need people taking this seriously
rdponticelli: Well, they are, som
BTC-Mining: Some, yes
rdponticelli: A small minority
rdponticelli: :D
mircea_popescu: yeah, we kinda need a serious exchange competitor for mtgox.
rdponticelli: I hope OT keeps growing
rdponticelli: Looks like an interesting job
mircea_popescu: New withdrawals are currently on hold while I work through the future of the exchange.
mircea_popescu: That is unacceptable. Regardless of the future of the exchange you have an obligation to disburse funds to the ACH account on record.
mircea_popescu: o boy, this will be nice thick drama.
rdponticelli: I can't afford more drama...
rdponticelli: I used to have a life
rdponticelli: Well, sort of...
smickles: mircea_popescu: yeah, i think D&T may have a good chunk of usd held hostage now
mircea_popescu: smickles interesting how that works.
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli wife&girlfriend or just wife/just gf ?
rdponticelli: just gf
rdponticelli: Turning into a wife now...
rdponticelli: Well, sort of...
rdponticelli: I won't sign anything...
rdponticelli: We just live together
rdponticelli: It was in fact a joke
mircea_popescu: "Secure your website first then bark in front of us u fucking k1d u really cant compare us so grew up and secure all bitcoins site then bark here"
mircea_popescu: this should be on a site somewhere.
rdponticelli: It's like a wife, bc I'm almost all day with this play money...
rdponticelli: lol
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: this is why a gf helps, you tell each you're gonna spend the day with the other.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.0899 = 0.899 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: supplemental (yet unrelated) drama : romanian wanna-be author who closed his blog last year cause i laughed at his pretense came back to declare that i'm obviously nuts for thinking he closed his blog because of me.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 50 @ 0.14999999 = 7.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.1494 = 1.6434 BTC [+]
usagi: asicminer up 50%
usagi: Hmm!
mircea_popescu: !ticker asicminer
assbot: [GLBSE:ASICMINER] [Bid: 0.1411] [Ask: 0.1494] [Spread: 0.0083] [Last: 0.1494] [24hVol: 100.75611112] [7dAvg: 0.11819219]
mircea_popescu: not much volume.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.1411 = 3.9508 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.14100011 = 0.705 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.141 = 1.41 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.14000001 = 1.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.14 = 6.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1351 = 0.6755 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.13311111 = 1.3311 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.13311111 = 2.6622 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.13311111 = 6.6556 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.133111 = 2.2629 BTC [-]
rdponticelli: You took profit usagi?
usagi: a little
rdponticelli: lol
mircea_popescu: !ticker asicminer
assbot: [GLBSE:ASICMINER] [Bid: 0.1411] [Ask: 0.1494] [Spread: 0.0083] [Last: 0.133111] [24hVol: 100.75611112] [7dAvg: 0.11819219]
mircea_popescu: umm wtf ?
usagi: bots.
mircea_popescu: is the data cached or something ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 7 @ 0.79979 = 5.5985 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: !ticker asicminer
assbot: [GLBSE:ASICMINER] [Bid: 0.1411] [Ask: 0.1494] [Spread: 0.0083] [Last: 0.133111] [24hVol: 100.75611112] [7dAvg: 0.11819219]
mircea_popescu: pff this is useless.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 9 @ 0.79989 = 7.199 BTC [+]
usagi: !pl ASICMINER 0.09
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: No dividend payments yet.
usagi: bug!
mircea_popescu: it paid dividends ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.105499 = 0.3165 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.8 = 3.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C010T] 1000 @ 0.90590417 = 905.9042 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 10 @ 0.125 = 1.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 83 @ 0.133111 = 11.0482 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.13 = 0.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.125 = 2.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1042 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 30 @ 0.1041 = 3.123 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 22 @ 0.10351 = 2.2772 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1025 = 1.025 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 21 @ 0.1023 = 2.1483 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 99 @ 0.1023 = 10.1277 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.10226 = 0.2045 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.10225 = 10.225 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 200 @ 0.102201 = 20.4402 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 15 @ 0.102113 = 1.5317 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.msg1157305#msg1157305 i think this is a pretty decent summation of the forum.
mircea_popescu: anon gives reading schedule to the pr chick for the place that does btc options.
mircea_popescu: maybe his services would be so much more valuable as an (pro bono) advisor to the us president ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 85 @ 0.102113 = 8.6796 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.102111 = 10.2111 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 30 @ 0.1015 = 3.045 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C010T] 800 @ 0.90590417 = 724.7233 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "Nice... GLBSE is dead for me. My money will be gone in some days and i dont think i will take the risk again to threw money at glbse when even after carefully checking a share out you can lose everything. Thanks!"
mircea_popescu: anyone care to guess what comp he's disucssing ?
Diablo-D3: not dmc.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.1021 = 0.3063 BTC [+]
usagi: Oh you mean the guy that admitted he didn't know how his account was compromised?
usagi: Mircea I hope for your sake
usagi: That no MPEX user ever is compromised... in the same way
mircea_popescu: usagi nope, this has nothing to do. Diablo-D3 yep exactly dmc.
usagi: You know what I mean?
mircea_popescu: i know you got the wrong story :)
usagi: I got the same story as you
usagi: because I read it in the same place...
mircea_popescu: sigh.
usagi: Well at least you admit you got it wrong, indirectly anwyay.
usagi: Now that we've moved past that, whats going on with DMC *now*? :)
mircea_popescu: at the current time we are not discussing how global scam exchange is intrinsicly unsafe. we are discussing how one asset in there defrauded investors of ~90% of their investment.
mircea_popescu: different stories.
usagi: He didn't. You got the wrong story :)
mircea_popescu: o i c.
usagi: But as usual, you just go by rumor and innuendo
usagi: If you want to know what happened you could ask DMC
mircea_popescu: well... tell it to the guy with the loss.
usagi: err Diablo -- or me
mircea_popescu: im not really interested in either your or diablo's version of "what happened". i got that.
usagi: Why bother, isn't it obvious?
mircea_popescu: what i;m interested in is the investor's version of what happened.
usagi: You yourself feel mining bonds are a dead end
mircea_popescu: usagi it was a quote.
usagi: Oh right, man on the street, right?
mircea_popescu: i am no party in this.
mircea_popescu: no, not man on the street. INVESTOR.
usagi: I have a newspaper you might be interested in.. called the National Examiner.
copumpkin: moo
mircea_popescu: sigh.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.74 = 3.7 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: dude. do you understand that your pathetic scam-thingee only works as long as you can find suckers to "invest" in it ?
usagi: There you go calling it 'my' exchange again.
mircea_popescu: because you have no ownership interest whatsoever, i forgot.
usagi: Right.
mircea_popescu: my bad.
usagi: I have no ownership ineterst whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: s/your/that
usagi: Would you like me to register with gribble so you can take a screenshot of me saying that and make blog post about it?
BTC-Mining: mircea, you know you complain about the way GLBSE is mostly unregulated as to which assets are allowed and poor speed... not that it's a "scam-thingee"
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1249 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: Although it indeed has hosted many scammy things.
mircea_popescu: i do this guilty by association thing.
usagi: yes
usagi: For example, it's 'my' exchange
usagi: therefore I am a scammer.
mircea_popescu: i dun recall saying that. did i say you're a scammer somewhere ?
usagi: Yes you did.
mircea_popescu: quote ?
usagi: You said I was scamming people.
mircea_popescu: yes, but quote.
usagi: [04:29:14] <mircea_popescu> dude. do you understand that your pathetic scam-thingee only works as long as you can find suckers to "invest" in it ?
usagi: Oh really, My exchange, as long as I can find suckers.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 84 @ 0.14999999 = 12.6 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: didn't you just protest and i just corrected it ?
usagi: Mircea you need to learn when to shut the fuck up.
mircea_popescu: you is both the plural and the singular 2nd person you know.
usagi: This isn't you against the world. Learn to play with other kids.
BTC-Mining: Aye, under that logic, an unregulated currency like bitcoin is guilty of money laundering, scamming, gambling and multiple other vices. Therefor, bitcoin is a "scam-thingee" too?
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining well, there's some dampening at work.
BTC-Mining: Like the fact it cannot be regulated at all, unlike GLBSE
mircea_popescu: the issue here isn't that "it happens". the issue is that it happens with regularity. "a small majority" as they say.
BTC-Mining: Yes, I suppose
mircea_popescu: moreover, if you run a bar where patrons are regularly mugged, your connection to the muggings is stronger than the connection between guineeas and mugging.
BTC-Mining: Didn't Nefario stop accepting new issues and was considering severely ramping up the requirements for IPOs?
BTC-Mining: Hopefully it gets more regulated.
mircea_popescu: yes, he did. this happened mostly because people we won't name don't know when to shut the fuck up.
BTC-Mining: Ah, yes. More drama?
mircea_popescu: drama is crucial.
usagi: Hi ciuciu
usagi: I noticed you stopped trolling the YARR thread :> is everything ok?
BTC-Mining: Of course it is crucial... that's what makes people do rash decisions
BTC-Mining: and rash decisions makes good business opportunities.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining not really. drama is the only way truth can get out in circlejerk situations.
BTC-Mining: (For those not doing rash decisions)
mircea_popescu: and teh interweb sociali media tends to build up circlejerks
mircea_popescu: whoa, what a little pearl : "We have also obtained 4,200 shares of DMC for only 50 bitcoins in a special one-time "insider" trade with Diablo-D3."
mircea_popescu: how did you pay below mkt price usagi ?
usagi: Because I traded for ASICMINER.
mircea_popescu: ><
BTC-Mining: I have yet to see any drama or people bashing on my threads.
mircea_popescu: agagagaa
usagi: All Diablo did
mircea_popescu: o this is great.
usagi: was set the price of MHASH to asic's price, "now".
JWU_42: Diablo has fucked up DMC to infinity
usagi: People who are paying .80 for GIGAMINING for example
usagi: ---theyre living in a dream
JWU_42: ASIC
usagi: GIGA is worth less than DMC.
usagi: "now", DMC > GIGAMINING.
usagi: Right now.
mircea_popescu: ahaha
mircea_popescu: o god almighty.
BTC-Mining: I disagree, usagi
JWU_42: completely
usagi: Think about it. DMC has 6.5 mhash a share.
JWU_42: it is worth nothing
usagi: Soon it will be 10.
usagi: What will gigamining have?
usagi: 5?
copumpkin: usagi: he's announced the upgrade path
BTC-Mining: Gigamining is going to be 100 mhash per share
copumpkin: and it's frree
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.7327 = 3.6635 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 25 @ 0.7326 = 18.315 BTC [-]
usagi: Yes but DMC has those mhash NOW.
mircea_popescu: my eyes are bleeding.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.7325 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 9 @ 0.732 = 6.588 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [-]
copumpkin: usagi: 100?
BTC-Mining: or 25 mhash for the free path
usagi: Gigamining has some kind of paid upgrade path.
usagi: Well look
JWU_42: usagi: AND PAYING NO DIVIDENDS
mircea_popescu: usagi no it has jack shit now lmao. what now ? asics are just a dream yet.
usagi: You don't realize this but you are 2 months late
usagi: This was reported and dealt with 2 months ago
mircea_popescu: dun dun dun.
usagi: What Diablo is doing is apparently OK, so I decided to run with it
JWU_42: and the sahre price has gone from 1 to bitcents
usagi: So I traded a bunch of asicminer. I made some profit. In 6 months
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 150 @ 0.003393 = 0.509 BTC [+]
usagi: You will wish you did too.
JWU_42: it is almost criminal
usagi: As mining bonds go to zero and DMC goes to 10
usagi: DMC has risen 80% since I did that trade
usagi: Sorry. 800%
mircea_popescu: no, i'm with JWU_42 here. it's criminal alright.
JWU_42: wow .01 to .02
usagi: !pl DMC 0.0111111111
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: DMC [1@0.01111111BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.07 BTC. Capital gain: 0.05888889 BTC. Total: 0.08524703 BTC. (767.2%)
usagi: This is the profit you get from investing in EITHER ASICMINER or DMC.
usagi: And more than 75% of the shares out now were traded after the asicminer deal
mircea_popescu: usagi srsly... these things go on the record. what will you do in 6 months ?
mircea_popescu: insist i learn when to stfu ?
JWU_42: good luck selling your shares
usagi: So frankly...... Do you know what you are talking about? No.
mircea_popescu: this is so sad.
usagi: You have it so wrong
JWU_42: mircea_popescu: this will end badly
usagi: that to actually educate you I thin kI would need to be paid for the massive amount of time
mircea_popescu: JWU_42 yes, it will end badly. like ppt ended badly. you know for whom ?
copumpkin: for my asshole
JWU_42: yes
JWU_42: mine too
mircea_popescu: not for the incompetent bunch that thinks it knows finance.
copumpkin: no no
JWU_42: the double dong
copumpkin: you are my asshole, JWU_42
JWU_42: you are my mother figure
copumpkin: oh, but I KNOW I know finance
copumpkin: I don't just think it
copumpkin: I am so awesome
mircea_popescu: in every way ?
copumpkin: nah, every way but one
mircea_popescu: sharpie in poopar nao pls.
JWU_42: I know just enough to be dangerous
usagi: I know more about finance than you could possibly understand mircea
usagi: If you and I sat down and discussed it one of two things would happen, we'd either become friends, or you would be unable to speak from the depth of my knowledge.
JWU_42: anyone who has to say that - isn't telling the truth
usagi: Mircea says it all the time :p
JWU_42: if you were that good - everyone would say it for you
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: I also got DMC shares for cheap... at some point DMC was trading 1 ASICMINER for 9 DMC (When ASICMINER was still IPOING at 0.10 each)
JWU_42: this is one of the few times I agree with mircea_popescu ;)
JWU_42: on the subject of DMC
BTC-Mining: It was way too low, killed DMC share prices definitly.
mircea_popescu: JWU_42 you do tend to agree with me, it's just not always at the same time.
usagi: I'm the one that walked away with 800% profit
usagi: But before this I spent about a month trying to petition Diablo to do it properly
JWU_42: and DMC selling 5000 shares for less then .01 when i paid 1 -- WTF
usagi: He wouldn't listen, so..
JWU_42: mircea_popescu: fair enough...
usagi: When he came to me with this plan, and explained it, it actually kinda started to make sense
usagi: I'm glad I took the deal
JWU_42: usagi: what was the total net profit - not %
usagi: over 200 bitcoins so far
JWU_42: who gives flying fuck if you 800% totals less than 100 BTC
usagi: Dunno, probably noone
usagi: This is why people are in the nyan thread telling me how great I am at finance.
BTC-Mining: I was flabbergasted he never mentioned it on his thread. I just happened to notice it because I have his trade chart in my favorite and watch it.
usagi: I reported it immediately in my letter to shareholders.
BTC-Mining: He prices everything in mhash/potential mhash, not market price
BTC-Mining: I price things as market price.
usagi: Which is actually brilliant.
usagi: It's one of the few accretive shares out there
BTC-Mining: No... it's not brillant
usagi: Yup.
usagi: It's over 6 mhash
usagi: Why don't you buy more?
BTC-Mining: He should have sold market and bought the other for market.
usagi: it's only 0.08
mircea_popescu: <JWU_42> who gives flying fuck if you 800% totals less than 100 BTC ,<<< this.
JWU_42: and the market values it at .07
BTC-Mining: Would have gotten a LOT more than by just trading...
usagi: If you sit down and actually look at what is going on
JWU_42: The market values YABMC's 1 Mh/s at .115 (or so)
usagi: You will realize that DMC is over 6mhash per share for 0.08
JWU_42: and same for pure and the others
JWU_42: so it is 6x worse
usagi: DMC is a major holding of NYAN.B and BMF
JWU_42: ;)
usagi: Over 15% in both cases iirc
JWU_42: CONFLICT OF INTEREST
JWU_42: ;)
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 25 @ 0.09 = 2.25 BTC [+]
usagi: Conflict of interest?
mircea_popescu: fascinating how much fun teh kids today can have out of 200 bitcoins.
JWU_42: DMC is supposed to eb accumulating funds to build a mining farm
mircea_popescu: there's 18 companies and complex shareholding relations
usagi: How is that a conflict of interest
mircea_popescu: in case the SEC ever comes asking questions i give them usagi.
mircea_popescu: that'll keep them working for 6 months.
JWU_42: heh
usagi: I don't live in the USA and I'm not a citizen.
mircea_popescu: even better.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1249 BTC [-]
copumpkin: whoa, where you from usagi?
copumpkin: 日本
usagi: I am from the moon kingdom.
copumpkin: sorry, forgot :)
mircea_popescu: he's from xanadu, land of the finance ppl.
usagi: My mother was Chang'e. I am the princess of the moon.
mircea_popescu: his mother was a bank and his father a golden paperweight
copumpkin: 兎
copumpkin: whee
usagi: =^^=
JWU_42: <mircea_popescu> his mother was a bank and his father a golden paperweight << Now that is funny
mircea_popescu: i ocasionally have my moments
usagi: My full title is Usagi Fushi no Kyuuketsuki Ohimeasma. And as the princess of the moon I demand that Mircea refer to me by my proper title from now on or face... the penalties.
mircea_popescu: mkay countess paperweight
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 14 @ 0.1021 = 1.4294 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: .tr miasma
markac: mircea_popescu: "miasma" (en to en, translate.google.com)
mircea_popescu: pff
mircea_popescu: it actually means stench in romanian
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.1249 = 2.498 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.1249 = 2.498 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 3 @ 0.059 = 0.177 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.1249 = 0.9992 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.125 = 0.25 BTC [+]
usagi: mircea: I gave the 200 bitcoins to my shareholders.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 10 @ 0.14999999 = 1.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [+]
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: it means stench in english too
copumpkin: or greek, I guess :P
mircea_popescu: o, you're greek ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.1249 = 1.3739 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.125 = 5.625 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: fuck you shit bird
usagi: lol?
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob it's not my fault about your mother man. how was i going to know ?
usagi: Shit bird, that's a new one.. what brought this on
copumpkin: lol
copumpkin: usagi: EskimoBob disapproves of mircea_popescu's involvement in porn
copumpkin: as fas as I remember
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: what kind of porn did you do, anyway? gay for pay/
copumpkin: that's the best
mircea_popescu: i just thought he's a little unhinged cause his toaster buying ipo didn't go so well ?
usagi: Well, in one sense porn is just a business. But, a responsible businessman would realize it offends many, many people.
usagi: Even just politically it sets you up as a target. It's easy to take a stance against MPEX because, well, let's be honest
usagi: It hosts illegal porn.
copumpkin: lol
copumpkin: usagi: I'm curious, how old are you?
copumpkin: this isn't a rhetorical question
mircea_popescu: usagi if you thought things through for a second, you'd realise you're safer with someone that has been hosting a 4chan for years
mircea_popescu: than wioth some random kid who bought a domain.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.125 BTC [+]
usagi: It's not about that
usagi: Like i said it's just a business. It just makes you a target
mircea_popescu: "it just makes me a target". i've been a target. for a long while. do you understand this ?
mircea_popescu: i have bigger guns is the point, my safety isn't your mousy safety, let's be anon and hope we're never a target.
usagi: Erm no you don't
usagi: I mean politically (I said politically)
usagi: I can just say "You host porn, no discussion, won't list"
mircea_popescu: because some deluded fuck who thinks he lives on the moon says so. right.
usagi: You can't even respond to that logically
usagi: Lol, everyone knows it dude
mircea_popescu: you don't have anything you could list to begin with.
usagi: It's a running joke, mpex hosts porn
usagi: Am I wrong? :p
mircea_popescu: i'm fascinated tho. so you think you're good enough to list on mpex now ?! who the fuck are you ? what have you done ?
mircea_popescu: gtfo lmao.
copumpkin: I hear glenn beck murdered a hooker
JWU_42: I can't believe I have stayed away from this channel for so long - this is hilarious
mircea_popescu: JWU_42 lettat be a lesson to you.
usagi: Right because 2 days ago you were congratulating me on the work I did with nyan, and 2 weeks before that telling me to keep up the good work with bmf
mircea_popescu: copumpkin i hear jimblo wales did porn too.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.125 = 0.5 BTC [+]
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: ooh
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: you are a loser. Period. You bragging here just makes you even bigger loser. There is nothing you can really do about it except just fuck off.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.125 = 0.25 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: usagi quote pls.
usagi: Lol you want me to quote you from 2 weeks ago on irc
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob hello and welcome back to the place where we type words. well done, keep up the good work.
mircea_popescu: usagi i want you to back up what you say.
usagi: I want you to STAND by what you say
mircea_popescu: sigh.
usagi: Not demand people quote you
copumpkin: stand by meeeee
usagi: You know what you said :)
mircea_popescu: yes, i do. which is why i ask for a quote.
usagi: From 2 weeks ago on IRC.
usagi: Well I want a peanut butter sandwich.
mircea_popescu: you say that like a douche that has no ideea what logs are.
usagi: And a car.
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: longer you talk, bigger fool you look. You are a loser. What part of this you do not understand?
usagi: Oh you have logs
mircea_popescu: d'oh ?!
usagi: Toss 'em over usagi@tsukino.ca
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: it'll be 5 btc per mb.
mircea_popescu: name the channels you want i'll give you an address.
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 5 @ 0.39 = 1.95 BTC [-]
usagi: It's your interest
usagi: not mine
PsychoticBoy: wtf an east european hooker is cheaper, you must know mircea
mircea_popescu: PsychoticBoy hey, guy's a banker, he makes 800%
mircea_popescu: i gotta make ends meet over here.
usagi: Oh and by the way that'll be 10btc for the sandwich, mircea
usagi: (same logic)
EskimoBob: you are a porn peddling turd. Your "exchange" is also a host for porn
mircea_popescu: the sandwhich you ate, i'm paying for ?
mircea_popescu: fucken welfare generation.
BTC-Mining: "I can hear a lot of kids arguing in here!" https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJkqT9TWq-N_2gfbkqwA9b-Xp29TSYmcZ92EvUvVaauDCTil6H
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob so is your mother.
usagi: The logs you sent, I'm paying for?
JWU_42: EskimoBob has a thing for feces
EskimoBob: so is my mother?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1021 = 1.021 BTC [+]
JWU_42: your site is a turd, mining bonds are truds
mircea_popescu: yes bobby, so is your mother.
EskimoBob: what a idiot you are :)
EskimoBob: so is my mother what?
mircea_popescu: a porn peddling turd.
BTC-Mining: Seriously tho, can't we all agree everyone hates everyone and stay quiet?
mircea_popescu: i don't hate everyone.
mircea_popescu: fuck you for even suggesting it.
JWU_42: I hate very few people
JWU_42: but dislike many
EskimoBob: what are you babbling about mircea_popescu?
mircea_popescu: now there i agree with the JWU_42. i dislike many people.
JWU_42: ok - we found 2 things we can agree on - progress...
coingenuity: wtf are you guys arguing about
BTC-Mining: Bah, I'll be in #bitcoin-shares mindining my own business...
mircea_popescu: in case anyone's curious about EskimoBob's mom btw : http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_liw53fRFCm1qexv0so1_500.jpg
EskimoBob: nothing really coingenuity
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu is freaking out
mircea_popescu: coingenuity well it started from dmc and ended up a general discussion on things
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 150 @ 0.00357261 = 0.5359 BTC [-]
coingenuity: WHY CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!
EskimoBob: and posting images of his mom . how pathetic is that :)
EskimoBob: LOL
mircea_popescu: lol
EskimoBob: what a loser you are mircea_popescu
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 37 @ 0.1068 = 3.9516 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob my mom ain't barefoot.
coingenuity: on a serious note though, lets try to keep it civil.... we're all peers in a tiny community so we should try to get along
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: do you even know who she is?
coingenuity: if we're all throwing shit at one another in a tiny room, everyone ends up covered in shit
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 99 @ 0.1067 = 10.5633 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: nah. getting along is what inflates ponzis.
mircea_popescu: we should focus on saying things, no maatter who gets hurt.
coingenuity: nah, gotta maintain amicable atmosphheres to get anything done
mircea_popescu: look, you've tried that theory in otc
mircea_popescu: otc went to shit.
mircea_popescu: this is the place where people getting things done moved.
mircea_popescu: let's learn the lessons of the past.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25979 @ 0.00039988 = 10.3885 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5221 @ 0.000397 = 2.0727 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: don't make friends just because people are in the same cryptocurrency as you. make friends if people are worthy of being your friends.
usagi: otc is a nice idea but it needs to be institutionalized.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
usagi: Turned into a credit agency.
mircea_popescu: usagi : institutionalized means in english "put into mental hospital"
EskimoBob: "are worthy of" - you talk like a scammer
usagi: No it does not always mean that, Mircea...
usagi: in fact
usagi: the meaning you quoted is a secondary meaning
mircea_popescu: sigh
usagi: institutionalize/ˌinstiˈt(y)o͞oSHənlˌīz/
usagi: 1. Establish (something, typically a practice or activity) as a convention or norm in an organization or culture.
usagi: 2. Place or keep (someone) in a residential institution.
mircea_popescu: you know english better than me too now ?
rg: mircea
rg: that video is hilarious
mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutionalized
rg: about the .it theifs
usagi: Well, yeah actually
rg: theifs*
rg: thiefs*
usagi: For one, I'm an English teacher
mircea_popescu: rg yea
usagi: I'll leave it there though
mircea_popescu: you're a finance english teacher ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1021 BTC [+]
usagi: No, I didn't say that.
mircea_popescu: so you're a non native speaker public worker on the lowest possible pay braket
usagi: Nope, didn't say that either.
mircea_popescu: and you daresay you know both the language and finance better than anyone.
mircea_popescu: this is fascinating even moar.
usagi: I didn't say that either.
usagi: You're basically a liar.
mircea_popescu: i'm a liar because you're a teacher who aspires to be something more than a teacher ?
BTC-Mining: Why does everyone misquotes everyone?
usagi: I said, "otc is a nice idea but it needs to be institutionalized." and in response to your blatant troll, "No it does not always mean that, Mircea..."
usagi: Then I quoted the dictionary.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining cause quoting properly takes work.
usagi: That's it.
mircea_popescu: you know, troll can't be used like that either.
mircea_popescu: troll is a noun.
usagi: Yeah you're a troll.
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu you are lonely loser how made a penny more than your beggar neighbour and now you think you are something special. No, you are not :)
usagi: It's pretty obvious.
mircea_popescu: lonely loser how made a penny << how isn't used like that either.
EskimoBob: and yes, you are a troll
mircea_popescu: jesus this should be #esl
mod6: haha
BTC-Mining: Or make assumptions? That's what makes bad partners, bad partners. Always jealous and jumping right to the conclusion, throwing shit everywhere before verifying anything...
usagi: troll 1 (trl) v. trolled, troll·ing, trolls (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/troll)
usagi: At this point is has become obvious Mircea is a poor troll... I'm out guys. Got work to do.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining well, for my own education, point them out on my side.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 46 @ 0.125 = 5.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1021 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.12999999 = 1.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 11 @ 0.1066 = 1.1726 BTC [-]
nefario: just chiming in on the OTC thing
nefario: I think the whole system is flawed for larger groups
nefario: works fine for small groups
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 3 @ 0.1065 = 0.3195 BTC [-]
nefario: once it grows past a certain size
mircea_popescu: that may well be true.
nefario: much of the ratings become useless
nefario: as no one really knows anyone else
nefario: for example
nefario: pirate
mircea_popescu: are you talking about otc or wot ?
nefario: had a GREAT rating
nefario: sorry
nefario: WOT
mircea_popescu: well, our hope is that historically a wot is what created capitalist economy. the hansa was one huge wot. the lombard trade was one huge wot
mircea_popescu: the jewish were one immense wot.
nefario: that may be so
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 50 @ 0.1065 = 5.325 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 1 @ 1.01 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: of course, all of these were maintained by responsible people, who didn't give two rat's asses for decorum.
nefario: but they were not anonymous
nefario: were they?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.40009999 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pseudonymous really
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.40009999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 11 @ 0.4001 = 4.4011 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: as nobody could REALLY verify identity past this
mircea_popescu: most of the classical art (operas etc) are based on mistaken identity
mircea_popescu: why do you think ? because the entire economy was run as a pseudonymous wot.
mircea_popescu: take the taming of the shrew as a fine example. servant and master switch roles. everyone knows there is a master, but nobody knows WHO exactly it is. except his own father.
nefario: I think there is limits to a WOT and OTC where there is no enforcement of contracts beyond banishment from the community
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.7299 BTC [-]
john_smith: trust me
john_smith: I have a real name
jcpham: k
nefario: and even banishment doesn't work in an environment like this
mircea_popescu: historically it worked, with the banishment. course we dunno if it ever can be made to work again.
nefario: as there is always someone who is willing to do business with them
assbot: [GLBSE] [BLUECHIP] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC
nefario: and
nefario: people are able to easily re-invent their identity online
mircea_popescu: nefario : for sure we have HUGE obstacles to overcome before this is all settled.
copumpkin: nefario: more importantly, banishment doesn't work because you can create a new identity
copumpkin: yeah
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 7 @ 0.00999999 = 0.07 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: yeah, this is a serious problem, in and of itself.
mircea_popescu: for all we know pirate is still around, facing us as some bright lad with an ideea.
mircea_popescu: if we turn this into a paranoid xenophobia we will just wither and die.
mircea_popescu: so... yeah.
usagi: So what are bitcoins
copumpkin: bitcoins are like totally awesome dude
nefario: like
dub: lol bitfloor pwned?
nefario: you can
usagi: Bitcoins are a way to drag hackers and techies kicking and screaming into the real world; the wot trust model doesn't work
nefario: smoke them
mircea_popescu: dub yup
nefario: wait
dub: muppets
nefario: no
usagi: and all those big bad banks? they were right all along
nefario: you can
nefario: BUY smokes with them
nefario: ja
mircea_popescu: dub some people are doubting whether it was an actual compromise.
dub: oh hey, bitcoinica 2.0
nefario: I hate all this conspiracy talk
nefario: it gets so boring when you hear it again and again
nefario: everytime something happens
mircea_popescu: well the story is that someone connected to a server through which they connected to the server where they held unencrypted pws of the wallet.
usagi: Do you have logs of the ip who created the trade?
nefario: crys of INSIDE JOB
mircea_popescu: this is doable but SO DIFFICULT to do...
dub: nefario: so you believe zhou's story? that his 'friend' took the money then gave it back?
nefario: not at all
dub: you damn conspiracy theorist
nefario: I haven't believed zhou since the first hack
mircea_popescu: dub it's such a stupid story tho... who the fuck knows anymore.
mircea_popescu: nefario wasn't slush hit in that one too ? the vps thing ?
dub: thing is its a perfectly reasonable story to a chinaman
nefario: and I've dealt with Chinese people
dub: because they are baldfaced lying morons
nefario: so I generally dont trust any of them
mircea_popescu: what, all the chinese are liars now ?
dub: yes
nefario: mircea_popescu: not all, just most
dub: its a cultural aspect of china
mircea_popescu: i only knew a handful of chinese people, and never been there
mircea_popescu: but they seemed ok
nefario: you never had the chance to learn for yourself
mircea_popescu: indeed not.
nefario: I would only do business with family there
nefario: wouldn't trust anyone else
nefario: which
nefario: funny enough is often how things work there
dub: even family..
mircea_popescu: hmmm... isn't this what the chinese themselves do ? only deal in family ?
dub: you can't control what happens to them because the entire country is corrupt
nefario: ja still need to be careful even with family
mircea_popescu: there certainly is more to the friend took money gave back story tho.
mircea_popescu: i mean, i read the logs. zhou was "not getting a salary" ?
mircea_popescu: they had a layered cake of conventions, deals and dealings a mile tall.
nefario: maybe there wasn't more
nefario: maybe there was less
nefario: who cares
nefario: it's such a quagmire
nefario: with so many liers
nefario: why even bother trying
dub: it doesnt matter if you trust them or they are trustworthy, an event that seems unconscionable to you is normal to them
dub: like simply having everythign they have ever owned taken by someone else with no recourse
mircea_popescu: this sounds like bdsm already.
dub: they'll just be like, 'oh well' move on, nothing can be done
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mircea_popescu: i guess it must happen often then.
dub: if they complain the'll probably end up being injected into an americans lips
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-]
dub: (biotech manufacturing plants are attached to prisons in china)
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.7501 = 2.2503 BTC [-]
nefario: fun
nefario: or you know
nefario: off to the 4 year gulag
nefario: thats quite common
dub: there are stories of prisoners having their skin harvested for collagen while still alive
mircea_popescu: hm
mircea_popescu: impossible to discern truth from journofiction in those tho
mircea_popescu: at least for me
nefario: communism with "chinese characterisitics" is what they call it
nefario: lol
dub: I forget who but a reasonably big news outfit did a sting buy of chinese collagen which tested as human derived
nefario: another name for it is fascism without killing jews
rg: oh dear
rg: is that bad dub?
nefario: rg
nefario: you server slow
mircea_popescu: well ya but i mean human derived...
nefario: MAKE IT FAST!!!
rg: nefario: which server
nefario: eh my one
rg: someone has been syncing a bitcoind after i told them not to
nefario: give me a sec
rg: you're on dallas
rg: it shouldn't be too slow
rg: its not loaded
rg: 16:55:21 up 122 days, 16:42, 1 user, load average: 1.65, 1.40, 1.51
rg: and that 1 is your ruby process
nefario: http://67.222.146.58:9999/asset/view/BITBOND
nefario: should be fast
rg: seems fine to me..
nefario: but it's not
usagi: Syncing
rg: someone else view that
rg: is it slow?
usagi: What do you mean by syncing? Is it me?
rg: it loaded very quick for me
nefario: are you in dallas?
rg: no
mircea_popescu: rg http://browsershots.org/http://67.222.146.58:9999/asset/view/BITBOND
rg: im on the other side of the country
mircea_popescu: that was yest.
rg: real 0m2.140s
rg: user 0m0.004s
rg: sys 0m0.012s
rg: that's curl url_here
mircea_popescu: like 9x% of them timed out
rg: dude look at the URL theyre loading
rg: its not that IP
mircea_popescu: it's what he quoted above ?
rg: http://api.browsershots.org/png/original/fd/fd8b4f767e646334df3ea1b898395979.png
rg: look at the URL being loaded
rg: its not BitVPS
mircea_popescu: http://browsershots.org/screenshots/64f1bc22d6d0a33c6f7dad7fb9f2a247 some loaded tho
rg: ofcourse
rg: it looks like browsershots was ovreloaded
mircea_popescu: o you suppose it fucked up cause of ip/dns name ?
rg: api.browsershots.org to be exact
rg: they all say
rg: 'contacted api.browsershots.. waiting'
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mircea_popescu: hm
rg: run it again
rg: i bet they'll all work
mircea_popescu: well you run it, what, just put the url in
rg: you do ti
mircea_popescu: no u
mircea_popescu: :D
rg: im about to eat lunch
mircea_popescu: nefario can do it.
rg: and i have a bunchof shit to do
mircea_popescu: good site to test sites with anyway.