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mircea_popescu: did it crash recently ?!
EmanuelDeOrtego: I am sure how that flash crash went down.
EmanuelDeOrtego: not*
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 6 @ 0.4699 = 2.8194 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 22 @ 0.47 = 10.34 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: o, you think it was them crashed ?
mircea_popescu: truth is couldn't see mkt depth for about a day...
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.86187 = 4.3094 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.86186 = 3.4474 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.861 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 3 @ 0.853 = 2.559 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 37 @ 0.852 = 31.524 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !ticker FPGAMINING
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 16 @ 0.47 = 7.52 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE:FPGAMINING] [Bid: 0.852] [Ask: 0.9499] [Spread: 0.0979] [Last: 0.852] [24hVol: 363.8997599] [7dAvg: 0.90554816]
mircea_popescu: !ticker ASICMINING
assbot: Invalid ticker.
mircea_popescu: !ticker ASICMINER
assbot: [GLBSE:ASICMINER] [Bid: 0.085] [Ask: 0.086] [Spread: 0.001] [Last: 0.08967999] [24hVol: 80.70818761] [7dAvg: 0.09389722]
mircea_popescu: why are all these crashing ?
kakobrekla: cause its just words?
EmanuelDeOrtego: ASICMINER has nothing to show for it
EmanuelDeOrtego: It's just betting on if BFL will ship out or not
mircea_popescu: hm.
mircea_popescu: i guess pirate put a chill on everything huh
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 31 @ 0.47 = 14.57 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: The sooner that whole Pirate fiasco finalizes the better
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: Amount of MPOE stock held The fund currently holds 4,073,980 shares of MPOE stock
mircea_popescu: The number of issued, outstanding and authorized stock is 1110 shares.
mircea_popescu: ok so
mircea_popescu: .py 4,073,980 / 1110.0
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.48 = 2.4 BTC [+]
markac: (4, 59, 0.88288288288288286)
mircea_popescu: .py 4073980 / 1110.0
markac: 3670.25225225
mircea_popescu: !ticker s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00037531 / 0.00038748 / 0.0004 (2424737 shares, 939.54 BTC), 30day: 0.000035 / 0.00036254 / 0.00041457 (71582191 shares, 25,951.60 BTC)
mircea_popescu: .py 0.00038748 * 3670.25225225
markac: 1.4221493427
mircea_popescu: a no wonder ppl aren't selling then.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 230 @ 0.086 = 19.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.47 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [-]
smickles: yeah, it's just a slow moving asset, and it has an easily calc'd value
smickles: i doubt anyone will sell for that .1
smickles: oh, lol, someone out bid them
smickles: there's a .10000001
mircea_popescu: great fortune.
smickles: .py 7000/1110.0
markac: 6.30630630631
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 0.5 = 1.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 4 @ 0.53 = 2.12 BTC [+]
smickles: someone is bidding for about 6x the number of shares at .00011
mircea_popescu: it's cheap, why not
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 4 @ 0.4399 = 1.7596 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-A] 3 @ 0.152 = 0.456 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.000384 = 9.5616 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00038373 = 8.5188 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 20 @ 0.00342417 = 0.0685 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 261 @ 0.00341492 = 0.8913 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 219 @ 0.00341296 = 0.7474 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [+]
smickles: yay! my mouse started working again :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00038311 = 5.67 BTC [-]
smickles: i contest that it was just ut usaf jamming my mouse as a test
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 7 @ 0.999 = 6.993 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: next time they'll sorbet it.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 49 @ 0.5 = 24.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.23292418 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 46 @ 0.5 = 23 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 32 @ 0.5 = 16 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 10 @ 0.131 = 1.31 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.9449 = 3.7796 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 67 @ 0.945 = 63.315 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.9498 = 4.749 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 15 @ 0.9499 = 14.2485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 59 @ 0.95 = 56.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 9 @ 0.5 = 4.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 50 @ 0.959 = 47.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 30 @ 0.96 = 28.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 54 @ 0.086 = 4.644 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: You know, I like how evoorhees doesn't use more than 1 confirmation
EmanuelDeOrtego: yet he doesn't get scammed
bitfoo: it's because he uses your bet transaction as one of the inputs to send back funds
bitfoo: so if your initial transaction goes invalid, so does the payout
EmanuelDeOrtego: Oooo
mircea_popescu: you have no incentive.
EmanuelDeOrtego: So it only works in his instance.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Gotcha.
bitfoo: yeah
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN] 1 @ 0.9999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.6799 = 4.7593 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.5-10.MININGBOND] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINRS] 3 @ 0.05099 = 0.153 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10024 @ 0.00038311 = 3.8403 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 10 @ 0.10099999 = 1.01 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.0034 = 0.0238 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 90 @ 0.10099999 = 9.09 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: I withdraw money from GLBSE
EmanuelDeOrtego: Change my mind
EmanuelDeOrtego: Put it back on
EmanuelDeOrtego: wait forever
EmanuelDeOrtego: and wonder what the hell is wrong with me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00038373 = 4.6815 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.103 = 0.206 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: don't change your mind
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00038658 = 2.3581 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: EmanuelDeOrtega, what?
BTC-Mining: Put that money to work
BTC-Mining: or loan it to me for 0.5% weekly eh
EmanuelDeOrtego: >Ortega
Diablo-D3: lol BTC-Mining
BTC-Mining: sorry about the a
EmanuelDeOrtego: It's very common.
EmanuelDeOrtego: It finds itself everywhere.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Minina is right.
BTC-Mining: I... see what you did there?
mircea_popescu: :p
EmanuelDeOrtego: Okay, I made a deposit and 11 confirmations later, nothing.
BTC-Mining: Go on withdraw/deposit page...
BTC-Mining: and click on check for deposit
EmanuelDeOrtego: Nothing unfortunately
smickles: that's not uncommon
EmanuelDeOrtego: Good.
smickles: yeah, have no fear
EmanuelDeOrtego: If it shows up tonight, that's good enough.
BTC-Mining: I always get my money on time...
mircea_popescu: is glbse manual too ?
smickles: my personal high is 15 conf, iirc
BTC-Mining: no, it's not manual
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0034 = 3.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.4001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10000 @ 0.0034 = 34 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5000 @ 0.0034 = 17 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0034 = 3.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.0798 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.0034 = 1.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 12 @ 0.0034 = 0.0408 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 35 @ 0.08 = 2.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 7 @ 0.103 = 0.721 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Well, if anyone what's the scraps of GDSPT come and get'em
mircea_popescu: did it run out of asks again ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 58 @ 0.103 = 5.974 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0034 = 0.34 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell deadterra almost out of asks on gsdpt again
gribble: The operation succeeded.
EmanuelDeOrtego: It's getting there soon
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0034 = 0.0068 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: .py 6222 * 0.0034
markac: 21.1548
mircea_popescu: ya almost gone
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 10 @ 0.1345 = 1.345 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: If Meni gets bot up for POLY.10.1 I'll buy the rest
EmanuelDeOrtego: his*
EmanuelDeOrtego: but he probably won't so *shrug*
smickles: waht is poly.10.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.08967999 = 0.3587 BTC [+]
smickles: err, you know what i meant
EmanuelDeOrtego: Basically a Bitcoin long
smickles: is it better than buying a call?
EmanuelDeOrtego: Nope, not really
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.3901 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.37 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 14 @ 0.33001137 = 4.6202 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.33 = 1.32 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: smickles it's some bizzare/useless wannabe-option thing
EmanuelDeOrtego: I am trying to guess the top on Satoshi Dice but it's hard without a dividend yet
EmanuelDeOrtego: It's deflation proof until a certain point
EmanuelDeOrtego: and he will have a natural monopoly for some time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24176 @ 0.00038311 = 9.2621 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9424 @ 0.00038248 = 3.6045 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: unless he goes full retard
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 21 @ 0.1349 = 2.8329 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i doubt voorhees goes retard.
assbot: [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 10 @ 0.085 = 0.85 BTC [+]
smickles: ;;ident EmanuelDeOrtego
gribble: Nick 'EmanuelDeOrtego', with hostmask 'EmanuelDeOrtego!~k@74.196.233.153', is not identified.
mircea_popescu: anyway if the most recent data holds i can see it going to 50
BTC-Mining: ?
EmanuelDeOrtego: 50 what?
smickles: err, do you have a WOT identity EmanuelDeOrtego ?
EmanuelDeOrtego: smickles: Used to.
EmanuelDeOrtego: I had a 1000 BTC loan on that.
mircea_popescu: its 320k now, 500k.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BLUECHIP] 1 @ 0.1 BTC
EmanuelDeOrtego: I just lost the credentials.
BTC-Mining: Oh, total valuation
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITNODES] 10 @ 0.2573 = 2.573 BTC [-]
smickles: as to the issue of the dividend, i think evoorhees did mention total profits month to date
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0034 = 0.0102 BTC [+]
smickles: and that it has already beaten the statistically expected dividend
mircea_popescu: it was up significantly
smickles: which is about 19% iirc
BTC-Mining: SatoshiDice transactions just keep going up...
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.103 = 0.206 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Hmmm
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5000 @ 0.0034 = 17 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCWEB] 1 @ 0.1096 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol where is deadterra!
BTC-Mining: 0.0034 all gone almost already
EmanuelDeOrtego: Bubble time.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1217 @ 0.0034 = 4.1378 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: yup
EmanuelDeOrtego: I wish I had enough money to buy them all.
mircea_popescu: they're gone.
BTC-Mining: I have almost 50k personally
mircea_popescu: o did they even sell that much ?!
mircea_popescu: !ticker GSDPT
assbot: [GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.0033099] [Ask: 0.0035] [Spread: 0.0001901] [Last: 0.0034] [24hVol: 188.8802] [7dAvg: 0.00379333]
mircea_popescu: hmm doesn't say
BTC-Mining: https://glbse.com/api/quantity_trading/GSDPT
BTC-Mining: 299525
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 3 @ 0.10974 = 0.3292 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: 300000 total
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: .py 986.838 / 35
markac: 28.1953714286
mircea_popescu: 280k or so it sold huh
mircea_popescu: o ya, cheaper orifginally. i see
EmanuelDeOrtego: Let's see if somebody is stupid enough to buy it up to 70 again
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many people have the sense to put bids at 34
mircea_popescu: as opposed to buy at 35-40-50 etc
BTC-Mining: The other days they were selling at 70 =/
EmanuelDeOrtego: I need to sell when that happens. For some reason I wouldn't doubt it holding there though.
EmanuelDeOrtego: People claiming all the dividends in one swift valuation.
mircea_popescu: tbh, irt going to 50 i could see. it going to 70 seems a little rich.
mircea_popescu: maybe next year.
EmanuelDeOrtego: That's why dividends are stupid. He should just do share buybacks.
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego nobody says he doesn't.
BTC-Mining: We'll see how it goes, also with the new design and all
EmanuelDeOrtego: Hmmm
EmanuelDeOrtego: Very well
mircea_popescu: entirely within his right to buy up however many shares.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 32 @ 0.00989 = 0.3165 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.1349 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 4 @ 0.998999 = 3.996 BTC [+]
smickles: can someone do an independant calc here, i figured the expected dividend per share each month should be 0.00005505
BTC-Mining: Seems too high
BTC-Mining: What his the net profit each month currently?
BTC-Mining: to be distributed?
mircea_popescu: like 3k ?
smickles: 2,990.69 (expected)
smickles: so it's 0.00002990
BTC-Mining: 0.000029 per share then it seems
BTC-Mining: A bit under 1% per month or 10% per year, assuming no growth
BTC-Mining: Seems like a traditional company valuation
smickles: then what is that cedus guy in the forums saying that the forward dividend yeild is 19.15% for?
BTC-Mining: no idea
smickles: .py .00002990 / .00345
markac: 0.00866666666667
smickles: .py (.00002990 / .00345) * 12
markac: 0.104
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.1029 = 5.145 BTC [-]
smickles: oh
smickles: they claim that 19 based on the past 30 days performance as of their posting on the 24th
mircea_popescu: yeah
mircea_popescu: it went up this month
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.95 = 1.9 BTC [+]
smickles: .py ((6506.96/100000000)/.00345)*12
markac: 0.226329043478
mircea_popescu: myea.
smickles: so 22% now
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 18 @ 0.5 = 9 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: may be.
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 10 @ 0.7 = 7 BTC [+]
smickles: but that is a bad number to look at,
smickles: forward div yeild based on one good month
smickles: we should either use the statistical expectation, or the alltime actual data
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: tho... if it's booming it's booming.
smickles: just variance tho, like a red streak in roulette
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 10 @ 0.7 = 7 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: nah cause their actual bids are up significantly.
mircea_popescu: and variance was actually under before.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.103 = 2.06 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.1349 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 9 @ 0.135 = 1.215 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: course, if we had a year's worth of data. but there's pretty much 4 months of which prolly the first is meaningless anyway.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.08967999 = 0.7174 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.08977999 = 1.0774 BTC [+]
smickles: still, a 10% yeild is damn good
smickles: imo, for this sort of venture
mircea_popescu: well, some say too low some say pretty good...
mircea_popescu: it's a market.
smickles: mircea_popescu: does mpex have to capability to do share based dividends, rather than cash?
mircea_popescu: what sense would that make ?
smickles: some companies do it
mircea_popescu: so if some companies jumped in the river...
smickles: it makes some investors feel like they get more, and it makes the companies feel like they pleased their envestors for no cost
smickles: *investors
mircea_popescu: at most there could be splitting if the prices get out of hand
smickles: .py ((7,083.12/100000000)/.00345)*12
markac: TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for /: 'tuple' and 'float'
smickles: .py ((7083.12/100000000)/.00345)*12
markac: 0.246369391304
mircea_popescu: lol
smickles: i had the wrong number for august's profit
mircea_popescu: myea.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36693 @ 0.00038432 = 14.1019 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it could be uber sweet, is the thing. we see.
smickles: "it just keeps going up"
smickles: i suppose we'll see how well evoorhees can keep it up
smickles: harr harr
mircea_popescu: august pays no dividends to stock. september could be -500 btc
mircea_popescu: i mean you never know.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 100 @ 0.05 = 5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.08 BTC [+]
smickles: aww, that's too bad
smickles: i would've liked a nice quick payoff
mircea_popescu: :p
EmanuelDeOrtego: There's still the Speculative value
smickles: it would've pleased my 'merican sensibilities
smickles: june was -2k
mircea_popescu: i think that was on old rake.
smickles: lol, i remember this, but it's entertaining to go over it againg
smickles: so june starts out up ~2k
smickles: then day by day
smickles: 1: -131
smickles: 2: -177
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 9 @ 0.068 = 0.612 BTC [+]
smickles: 3: - 640
smickles: 4: -1031
mircea_popescu: so i get 2-2 and flop shows a 2
smickles: 5: - 784
mircea_popescu: everyone's bidding like crazy
smickles: so on day 6, he's lost all profit
smickles: 6: + 150
smickles: 7: -510
smickles: from there he slowly recovers tho via ebb and flow
mircea_popescu: that was a sweet 4 btc lol
smickles: mircea_popescu: seals?
mircea_popescu: yeah
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0035 BTC [+]
smickles: hmm, i think i still have about 2 btc there
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.08977999 = 0.3591 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 10 @ 0.00012189 = 0.0012 BTC [+]
smickles: clearly, you are playing above my tolerances tho
EmanuelDeOrtego: Who buys 1 share of GSDPT?
mircea_popescu: srsly.
mircea_popescu: smickles 300/500
smickles: maybe i'll join as see how long i'll last
Doffx: Ahh fuck all I have is .0035 after that transaction fee, I think ill buy 1 GSDPT with it sweet!
smickles: but then, maybe my mouse will quit again
mircea_popescu: they're noobs tho, dun kno how to play this game.
EmanuelDeOrtego: So what is Satoshi Dice's current valuation?
mircea_popescu: 340k btc
mircea_popescu: or thereabouts
mircea_popescu: just wiped a guy. kkk here 888 there. 11k
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [+]
smickles: oh my
mircea_popescu: im +20k past 30 mins.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 10 @ 0.08 = 0.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 25 @ 0.071 = 1.775 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 100 @ 0.071 = 7.1 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: which you know... i didnt know you could play pro poker in btc
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 4 @ 0.01 = 0.04 BTC
smickles: i'm up 1.5%, i should just stop now
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.08977999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 67 @ 0.08977999 = 6.0153 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.08978 = 2.9627 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.08 = 0.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.08 BTC [+]
smickles: ack, 5/4 off suit
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.08978 = 0.1796 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.08978 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 197 @ 0.103 = 20.291 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: "4.2. This contract is the sole and complete agreement between the parties. It may not be modified by third parties, irrespective if said parties should style themselves "court of law", "judge" or otherwise. "
EmanuelDeOrtego: Wow, just wow. Haha.
smickles: that's my favorite section
MoneyIsDebt: Which asset is that?
EmanuelDeOrtego: Satoshi Dice
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego ;)
mircea_popescu: philosophy is good, practice is better still.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 20 @ 0.08 = 1.6 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: I want to imagine a judge reading that
smickles: wow, just won a pot about as large as the max buy in with highcard
EmanuelDeOrtego: Where?
smickles: puddle
smickles: er
smickles: pond
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5100 @ 0.00103479 = 5.2774 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.104 = 0.936 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.33021337 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7646 @ 0.00038248 = 2.9244 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 0.3511 = 0.7022 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.3391 = 0.6782 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 16 @ 0.33011337 = 5.2818 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 20 @ 0.339 = 6.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 15 @ 0.33 = 4.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 2 @ 1.57 = 3.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.10211 = 0.2042 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 25 @ 0.0035 = 0.0875 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.102 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 46 @ 0.33 = 15.18 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 74 @ 0.300001 = 22.2001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 44 @ 0.3 = 13.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [+]
smickles: <once it was known that the people could play poker, they never once returned to -assets>
EmanuelDeOrtego: where do you guys play poker?
smickles: sealswithclubs.eu is where most people seem to play
bitfoo: I suck at poker
bitfoo: I just bleed money, even in the puddle
Jackmaninov: lol, pirate appaears and TYGRR.BOND-P rallies :)
Gladamas: :)
Doffx: Rally?
Doffx: that looks like a selloff at first
bitfoo: again? lol
rg: [20:06] <+Gladamas> <pirateat40> I'd just like to say, I never expected all this madness when I shutdown BS&T. It's been a lot more work than I could have even thought and I simply messed up. In hindsight, I shouldn't have stopped things so suddenly. Although it was nice to finally get some sleep, things have been spiraling out of control this week and pushing my personal deadlines.
rg: [20:06] <+Gladamas> <pirateat40> At this point and in an attempt to stop the bleeding (interest) I'm going to be forced to payout everyone at once, which I'm sure will piss off enough people to counter the lack of payouts but I don't see any other way of handling this.
mircea_popescu: moar excuses and promises ?
Jackmaninov: yeah, my bad, only looked at the last few trades
Gladamas: if you want to put it that way mircea
Doffx: I dunno, I hope that means hes going to payout
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 417 @ 0.08978 = 37.4383 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 907 @ 0.089799 = 81.4477 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: I'm going to be forced to pay everyone out at once...
EmanuelDeOrtego: Whenever the market collapses.
mircea_popescu: which I'm sure will piss off enough people << who's it gonna piss off ?
EmanuelDeOrtego: They are going to be pissed off because it will be a long time until he pays out.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: everyone at once, in 2055
Chaang-Noi: to cut down interest payments would it not be faster to pay off people when he had coin, and not just wiat until he had it all?
mircea_popescu: let's face it, he can't pay in the indefinite future.
mircea_popescu: btc is going up, he;s a two bit hustler.
MoneyIsDebt: or simply stop interest when he shut down the operations
mircea_popescu: he's not stopping interest. you don't understand how scams work
mircea_popescu: gotta give people shit to mull over.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1000 @ 0.1826746 = 182.6746 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: mmkay.
MoneyIsDebt: saying he'll release all at once might be an attempt to bring the btc price down
mircea_popescu: yaya.
mircea_popescu: scumbag dude. pays 11 people worth 500btc total
mircea_popescu: announces he will pauy "all at once"
EmanuelDeOrtego: MoneyisDebt: Bingo.
EmanuelDeOrtego: It's becoming more and more obvious that he doesn't have the BTC.
Jackmaninov: first time I think he's sounded uncertain...
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.3899 = 1.1697 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 0.4999 = 0.9998 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.5 = 2.5 BTC [+]
MoneyIsDebt: seems the market is not moving on the news though
Chaang-Noi: its mixed news
bitfoo: and it's nothing really new
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.465 = 3.255 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 0.3512 = 0.7024 BTC [-]
bitfoo: same status
bitfoo: no timelines
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 26 @ 0.465 = 12.09 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.3391 = 0.6782 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: no timeline
MoneyIsDebt: maybe the real news is that he has no market influence any more
Chaang-Noi: and a payout all at once.. very odd
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 19 @ 0.339 = 6.441 BTC [-]
Ignatius-otc: nothing new, excuses, no timeline...
Ignatius-otc: "uneventful"
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 12 @ 0.338 = 4.056 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: It makes no sense to keep interest going, say those interests are bleeding him, and the fix to be paying everyone all at once...
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining scams work by not making sense.
BTC-Mining: Instead of individually, as soon as possible
BTC-Mining: How can not making sense work?!
BTCHero: how can it not work at this point
mircea_popescu: what news lol.
mircea_popescu: pirate is last week's news. he didn't happen. moving on.
EmanuelDeOrtego: His influence has dried up completely.
BTC-Mining: Since when is senseless things better to invest in then senseful ones?
EmanuelDeOrtego: The market won't budge for him anymore.
mircea_popescu: like one of those one hit bands.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11091 @ 0.00038432 = 4.2625 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining scams appeal to the irrational part of people.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30296 @ 0.00038435 = 11.6443 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: creo quia absurdum est.
mircea_popescu: oldest scam in the book, xtianity.
boonies4u: actually, i would say pirate's influence has increased
boonies4u: now that MNW's bid has capped
BTC-Mining: why?
EmanuelDeOrtego: Matthew's bet only says he has a 50/50 chance of paying out.
mircea_popescu: that wright muppet makes bids now ?
BTC-Mining: 50/50?
EmanuelDeOrtego: 1:1
EmanuelDeOrtego: $100k on each side
boonies4u: EmanuelDeOrtego: he originally felt that odds were in his favor
boonies4u: EmanuelDeOrtego: I think it went down to 50% as the bids came in
boonies4u: and he had conversations
mircea_popescu: http://www.betsofbitco.in/item?id=566 o hey, somebody bid
Jackmaninov: pirate statement over?
boonies4u: mircea_popescu: if I was a hacker, I would bet for myself
boonies4u: mircea_popescu: if I was confident enough
mircea_popescu: i imagine that was a just in case bet.
mircea_popescu: im kind of amused tho, for all the hordes of forum idiots that whine about mpex
Doffx: I still wonder if the delay is related to LR being down.
mircea_popescu: that the best they came up with is 1 btc which actually was there from before their finding out the world exists.
boonies4u: mircea_popescu: would you still pay someone who compromised MPEX AND caused damages?
boonies4u: or only if they didn't touch anything? :P
mircea_popescu: 1.337 ? sure lol.
mircea_popescu: what exactly would he damage tho.
BTC-Mining: all your date?
BTC-Mining: data*
mircea_popescu: make the page say "Mircea Popescu sux!!"
boonies4u: damages
boonies4u: in general
BTC-Mining: no, he would add a word after sux.
mircea_popescu: Mircea Popescu sux eggs!!!
boonies4u: Mircea Popescu is a scam artist and has a small penis.
boonies4u: foolproof
BTC-Mining: aaaiiarrriiigght
mircea_popescu: please don't smoke teh cock
mircea_popescu: it bothers the artiste
mircea_popescu: you guise ever saw man on the moon ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.33510001 = 0.6702 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 135 @ 0.33500001 = 45.225 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 19 @ 0.333 = 6.327 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !topic
BTCHero: How would a business hedge a large number of coins, say 100k usd worth, so that they wouldn't have to worry about btc price rising
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 0.3501 = 0.7002 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 6 @ 0.35 = 2.1 BTC [-]
BTCHero: is it even feasible to do this for an extended period of time?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BLUECHIP] 14 @ 0.1 = 1.4 BTC
kakobrekla: ;;topic
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34052 @ 0.00038248 = 13.0242 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: BTCHero buy calls.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.095 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.35 = 1.75 BTC [-]
smickles: .py 4764/2000.0
markac: 2.382
smickles: fuck yeah
smickles: bought in at 2, cashed out with 4.764
EmanuelDeOrtego: smick: What security? : O
smickles: poker ;)
EmanuelDeOrtego: lol
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.98 BTC [-]
smickles: aww, cashouts are paid within 24 hrs :/
BTCHero: but is ilk
smickles: huh?
assbot: [GLBSE] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.193 = 0.386 BTC [+]
BTCHero: daughter got to the keyboard
EmanuelDeOrtego: Why do all penny stocks, without fail, start with that huge spike and crash?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 440 @ 0.0035 = 1.54 BTC [+]
boonies4u: oh god, there's an asset called SYNERGY?
EmanuelDeOrtego: Corporate-speak company.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Bringing synergy to the workplace(TM)
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09938 BTC [+]
smickles: oh wow, i just realized you could use bitinstant to 'deposit' usd to any btc addy
boonies4u: EmanuelDeOrtego: they come up with new corporate terms, and then make royalties off them?
boonies4u: lovely idea
smickles: the 'any' didn't really click with me before now
BTC-Mining: SYNERGY? reminds me of a Dilbert cartoon...
EmanuelDeOrtego: I would buy the shit out of a BitInstant IPO
BTC-Mining: BitInstant IPO? I'd be in
bitfoo: that's exactly why there won't be one
smickles: reminds me of that one comercial
mircea_popescu: no you wouldn't, you'd be all "too high p/e x"
smickles: there was the clueless director, the yesman, the buzzword guy, and a woman in a confrence
smickles: it played this senario in 3 decades, the 70's, 80's and 90's
smickles: each time the director aske 'what do we do?'
boonies4u: EmanuelDeOrtego: I would buy into IPOs just for the quarterly reports :P
smickles: everyone gave predictable answers for their era, but then the janitor would chime in 'burn it!'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 389 @ 0.00038248 = 0.1488 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41700 @ 0.00038237 = 15.9448 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7411 @ 0.00038183 = 2.8297 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: Matthew is now at 13690 BTC in bets: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ajtx05YrHtIydFVHcGxLOExTbnhqajJLZmlSZUNtM3c#gid=0
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 49 @ 0.7 = 34.3 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: That's some massive bets...
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 13 @ 0.71 = 9.23 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Bets that pirate pays back 100% WITH interests.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Matthew is going to lose everything
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 17 @ 0.00999999 = 0.17 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: or get the boot if he can't pay
smickles: BTC-Mining: i thought the max was 10000btc on that bet
BTC-Mining: He... keeps taking bets apparently
smickles: maybe MNW just needed an excuse to leave the community?
BTCHero: there is something wrong there obviously, can't wait to find out what
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10399 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.104 = 0.416 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Well, to me it's a safe bet
smickles: heh, seems legit to me, get out of a place where you don't want to be, or get paid bank to stay there
boonies4u: BTC-Mining: he's only taking bets from people he think will pay if they lose though
BTC-Mining: yup
BTCHero: i bet him 6 whole coins
BTC-Mining: To lose tho, Pirate would need to refund everyone... in full... with interest...
boonies4u: BTC-Mining: did it include interest?
boonies4u: BTC-Mining: in the bet?
BTC-Mining: yes
boonies4u: oh MNW is fucked then
BTC-Mining: Pirate has to pay ALL, with all guaranteed interests
smickles: waht amount of interest (in the bet)?
BTC-Mining: The bet is as described in pirate's thread (where pirate says he'll pay back all funds with full interest)
EmanuelDeOrtego: 130,000 dollars down the drain
jcpham: bo bitcoins
jcpham: not dollars
EmanuelDeOrtego: Well, in dollars
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 13 @ 0.5 = 6.5 BTC [-]
jcpham: say it, bit-coin
smickles: D: what i couldn't do with >10kbtc
EmanuelDeOrtego: I mean, he doesn't have the Bitcoins
EmanuelDeOrtego: He has to buy them
BTC-Mining: He bets that pirate will pay as he described
BTCHero: like he will really pay, i just want something new to cry about... "mnw didn't pay me"
jcpham: smickles if i get over 10k btc
BTC-Mining: Why wouldn't ha have them?
jcpham: i'm sending it to you to manage
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 7 @ 0.5 = 3.5 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: If he doesn't, he'll just get in trouble.
smickles: jcpham: I'll do my best, but don't expect 7% weekly
jcpham: for a fee of course
EmanuelDeOrtego: Because he thinks he's win
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: he'll*
smickles: EmanuelDeOrtego: i'm sure he thinks he's win too
BTC-Mining: Well if you think pirate doesn't pay back... go bet for the heck of it.
EmanuelDeOrtego: His girlfriend will leave him and he'll live off his friends
BTC-Mining: And be along everyone complaining and getting him out of the community =/
EmanuelDeOrtego: BTC-Mining: Objectively, I just see it as a gamble.
BTC-Mining: Pretty much
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 25 @ 0.5 = 12.5 BTC [-]
smickles: it could be a hedge for some tho
jcpham: wow .5 on ppt?
smickles: seems high to me
jcpham: i haven't been paying attention
BTCHero: any news is good news i guess
smickles: jcpham: there were some people buying some ppts at >1
smickles: yesterday
smickles: lunacy
EmanuelDeOrtego: I think the market has already written off Pirate's non-existent Bitcoins
jcpham: yowsers
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.09 = 2.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34054 @ 0.00038183 = 13.0028 BTC [-]
maximian: mircea_popescu: shouldn't the s.dice bid now be 0.0037 BTC? Or does the second block of 5M shares have to completely sell out first?
BTC-Mining: second block needs to sell out
BTC-Mining: last 3 million will be 0.0037
mircea_popescu: hmm why didn't the 2nd block go in ?
mircea_popescu: 1 sec
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.09938 = 0.2981 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 9 @ 1.02 = 9.18 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: there we go.
mircea_popescu: timezones ><
assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 24 @ 0.01405 = 0.3372 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 64 @ 0.001045 = 0.0669 BTC [+]
maximian: cool.. I'm new to this IPO stuff, so I wasn't sure.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 6 @ 0.08 = 0.48 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: they're there, course you wouldn't buy into them till the other batch sold out, so BTC-Mining is mostly right
mircea_popescu: more of a clerical point.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 17 @ 0.08 = 1.36 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 250 @ 0.1 = 25 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 240 @ 0.104 = 24.96 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: aye
assbot: [GLBSE] [BLUECHIP] 1000 @ 0.1 = 100 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [SS] 20 @ 1.95 = 39 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SS] 30 @ 1.98 = 59.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 1 @ 0.1298 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 2 @ 1.19 = 2.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 40 @ 1.19739576 = 47.8958 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1 @ 0.39966036 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 70 @ 0.96 = 67.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.961 = 9.61 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.961 = 4.805 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Yeah, but the silent majority of Bitcoiners are leftists/socialists. Satoshi, most likely, is one of them. It's not at all shocking we are beginning the process of having government regulate Bitcoin, as a currency it was designed for this to happen.
mircea_popescu: o ya ?
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is a socialist ? raise your right hand
EmanuelDeOrtego: Rarity?
EmanuelDeOrtego: Is that you?
boonies4u: copumpkin: really?
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.2701 BTC [-]
copumpkin: totally
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.27 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.241 = 1.205 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.23 = 2.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 11 @ 0.223 = 2.453 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.2202 = 4.404 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 100 @ 0.22001001 = 22.001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 30 @ 0.2112 = 6.336 BTC [-]
boonies4u: :0
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 500 @ 0.2 = 100 BTC [-]
boonies4u: 20% damn
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego you know the idiot "?
mircea_popescu: copumpkin just has issues with authoritah.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Yes.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 70 @ 0.22000001 = 15.4 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: The people who understand communism
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego tell him he needs a new sister, this one can't suck cock worth a shit.
copumpkin: EmanuelDeOrtego: I think he's talking about the dostoevsky book
EmanuelDeOrtego: True communists believe freedom is a resource to be rationed.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 81 @ 0.33500011 = 27.135 BTC [-]
copumpkin: EmanuelDeOrtego: have you read marx and such?
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2746 @ 0.00103374 = 2.8387 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 254 @ 0.00100036 = 0.2541 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: copumpkin: Yes. Unfortunately.
boonies4u: I've read the communist manifesto, haven't read capital yet though
copumpkin: how come?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.98 BTC [-]
boonies4u: copumpkin: idk
mircea_popescu: such vile, putrid nonsense. why not read dianetics while you're at it.
copumpkin: mircea_popescu opinion on the matter is discounted for being biased
mircea_popescu: o right, i see. communists have unbiased oppinions
copumpkin: yes, communists are perfect
mircea_popescu: being so damned stupid as to have nothing to do with reality. thus perfectly biasless
mircea_popescu: i mean baseless.
mircea_popescu: i just want mccarthy back.
copumpkin: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30523 @ 0.00038435 = 11.7315 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15477 @ 0.00038441 = 5.9495 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Communists can have their ideals but as soon as they try to enforce it on me
mircea_popescu: being a communist should be a capital offense.
EmanuelDeOrtego: they are getting a full magazine of ammunition
copumpkin: lol
copumpkin: sounds like a just reaction
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.BTCST.PPT] 10 @ 0.005 = 0.05 BTC [-]
copumpkin: EmanuelDeOrtego: more likely if they come for you, they'll have bigger guns and more people to throw at you than you can fight off
copumpkin: and then they will capture you
copumpkin: and force you to give things away
copumpkin: to people who don't deserve them
copumpkin: muahahahahaha!
mircea_popescu: lol is he trying to troll ?
EmanuelDeOrtego: I know local militias
EmanuelDeOrtego: We can fight
mircea_popescu: I HAVE A COUSIN WHO WAS IN THE SEALS
mircea_popescu: bitch!
EmanuelDeOrtego: lol
copumpkin: EmanuelDeOrtego: local militas will be forced into giving away things to people who don't deserve it, as well
copumpkin: you'll all be really sad for giving shit away
copumpkin: really fucking sad
copumpkin: because them commies will have bigger guns
copumpkin: and more people
copumpkin: your ideals will go down the drain the moment you give something away to someone who doesn't deserve it
mircea_popescu: i give shit away to ppl thart don't "deserve" it all the time wtf.
mircea_popescu: what's "deserve" !?
copumpkin: COMMUNIST
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.042 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.04199 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 7 @ 0.0411 = 0.2877 BTC [-]
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: come with me, comrade
boonies4u: lol
mircea_popescu: are you nuts lol
mircea_popescu: so wait, if i tip im a communist nao ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 100 @ 0.10099999 = 10.1 BTC [-]
boonies4u: no you're a communist mao
boonies4u: puns :3
EmanuelDeOrtego: I am not even going to argue this. Sun Tzu would be displeased.
smickles: so mircea_popescu 's a commie?
smickles: i knew it\
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: yes
copumpkin: mccarthy would have you in jail by now
copumpkin: fucking red
mircea_popescu: i guess that jackshit character can add this to his litany
smickles: mccarthy's not here anymore, WE have to get him
mircea_popescu: im a communist pornographer
copumpkin: sweet
mircea_popescu: actually by that description i own wikipedia.
copumpkin: now EskimoBob and McCarthy will be after you
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob was already after me cause his wife ran off with this greek bum
mircea_popescu: 25 years ago.
copumpkin: lol
copumpkin: oh I thought it was just because of the pr0n
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 10 @ 0.10099999 = 1.01 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 90 @ 0.101 = 9.09 BTC [+]
copumpkin: because pr0n is inherently immoral
mircea_popescu: no. it was the pron of his ex wife. with a greek.
smickles: yeah
copumpkin: anyway, behold the only communist bitcoiner
boonies4u: copumpkin: >inherently >immoral
boonies4u: lol
mircea_popescu: you're prolly just saying you're a communist to get some ugly bird to go home with you.
copumpkin: she's pretty hot actually
boonies4u: i need something Mauve
mircea_popescu: when she gives head, does she share ?
boonies4u: anyone know where I can get Mauve clothing?
copumpkin: she stares into my asshole
smickles: O_o
smickles: or rather
smickles: *_o
boonies4u: mircea_popescu: the semen has to be evenly distributed
boonies4u: mircea_popescu: so yes, she minds
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.9738 = 2.9214 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: boonies4u except i don't need any.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 42 @ 0.9739 = 40.9038 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0035 = 0.35 BTC [+]
copumpkin: I'm getting a bit sick of communism though
copumpkin: was thinking of being a nazi next
smickles: that's the spirit
mircea_popescu: in a true communist state they should have weekly rape sessions in highschools.
mircea_popescu: after all... the military gets horny.
copumpkin: yeah, I agree
mircea_popescu: http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2012/08/25/scientists-successfully-hack-brain-to-obtain-private-data/ i hope you didn't keep mindwallets.
copumpkin: o shit
smickles: well, total recall isn't aout of the question
copumpkin: do I get three boobs?
mircea_popescu: mk so the next person to buy 666 shares of something on mpex gets a bitcoin credited.
focked: mircea_popescu: how'd you fair at poker?
mircea_popescu: i lost L:D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 666 @ 0.00038441 = 0.256 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: o hey that was quick
boonies4u: 666
BTC-Mining: damn...
mircea_popescu: that guy just made 400% :D
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 12 @ 0.05305401 = 0.6366 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: I need an MPEX account to participate now
BTC-Mining: in the Devil's games
focked: damn, i tried to buy something for .666 btc to be cute
copumpkin: focked: *fare
mircea_popescu: your math. it is wrong.
smickles: just slightly
mircea_popescu: slightyl wrong math is WRONG
mircea_popescu: RAGEEEEEE
smickles: maybe i didn't have enough btc in my account
BTC-Mining: eh, I keep getting 2-3 affiliates each month O.o
mircea_popescu: what you selling ?
BTC-Mining: On some text links advertising network =/
BTC-Mining: Wonder where they come from
mircea_popescu: china
BTC-Mining: I got 29$ apparently in it
mircea_popescu: and brazil.
BTC-Mining: for 5% commission on publishers
smickles: if i keep up my growth at this brokerage, plus winning at poker, i could retire eventually
BTC-Mining: nevermind, 10%
BTC-Mining: 5% is for advertisers
smickles: oh, and my cat video on youtube, raking in 1 usd per month
smickles: i'm golden
BTC-Mining: I was getting 3$ a day long ago however
BTC-Mining: Received around 900$, lasted 1 year.
mircea_popescu: smickles i went in with 14 btc, lost like 10 of it a week ago. forgot about it till now. turned my 4btc into 27 btc
mircea_popescu: then lost the lot.
smickles: bad luck
mircea_popescu: haha it's kind of how i play poker. ups and downs.
mircea_popescu: i make too much irl to be bother with variance grind.
BTC-Mining: Turned 4 BTC > 36 BTC > 0 BTC
smickles: ya know, I technically had to declare my gambling winnings last year
BTC-Mining: I kind of do like you mircea, up and downs.
mircea_popescu: o you made 7k ?
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining they say iot's how noobs play.
mircea_popescu: well, the better ones anyho.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 100 @ 0.16010001 = 16.01 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Actually, I tend to win, until I get tired after a few 3-4 hours playing
BTC-Mining: Then I start doing random stuff
BTC-Mining: and lose all my chips eh
mircea_popescu: well... towards the end i was all-inning everything lol
mircea_popescu: got me like 3-4 btc too lol
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 55 @ 0.33500011 = 18.425 BTC [-]
smickles: usually, playing poker with friends, i do well inversely proportional to the lenght of the game because i drink at a consistant rate
BTC-Mining: ...
smickles: basically, my reasoning skills are gone by the time it's heads up
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 128 @ 0.22000001 = 28.16 BTC [-]
smickles: of course, there was the one game were each of us brought sidearms to the game
smickles: that turned out 'contranormal'
BTC-Mining: ... okay there, no one's cheating!
kakobrekla: speaking of poker, i know this guy https://www.google.si/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=ljubljana+poker+conspiracy&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest
kakobrekla: hehe
smickles: heh, especially when they all interprated sidearms as nerf guns, and i brought my .357 7 shot revolver
mircea_popescu: speaking of poker, do you ppl know that kid from wow
mircea_popescu: athena or something ?
smickles: i only know leroy jenkins
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINRS] 1 @ 0.05099 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [LTC-MINING] 10 @ 0.411 = 4.11 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [LTC-MINING] 4 @ 0.41 = 1.64 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: smickles: lesson being: Do stupid stuff and be crazy, you'll isntantly become famous in your domain.
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf9bXuAHpiw
Chaang-Noi: _matthew_ still taking more bets? :)
smickles: hey
smickles: wait
smickles: athena?
boonies4u: smickles: listen!
smickles: i've seen that guy play minecraft!
smickles: lol boonies4u
boonies4u: 12w34a/b is nice
smickles: boonies4u: you were pretty quick on the draw for that one too
BTC-Mining: Chaang-Noi: Why yes
BTC-Mining: He does
boonies4u: smickles: gotta be fast, Sanic Fast
Chaang-Noi: i was in the wrong chan
Chaang-Noi: lol
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.22000001 = 0.44 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 5 @ 0.22 = 1.1 BTC [-]
smickles: oh lol, if that's the same athena, he's much more confident in MC than poker
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09938 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: What was he saying by the way? Couldn't make out any word in his whinings
smickles: heh, "i just went all in and he 'stacked' me"
BTC-Mining: ... what the heck is that supposed to mean?
mircea_popescu: he's french i think.
smickles: in that context, i dunno, usu. stacked == all in
mircea_popescu: that's what he means
mircea_popescu: he went all in, guy didn't fold.
mircea_popescu: so the guy "stacked him".
BTC-Mining: stupid term
mircea_popescu: in the sense that if you're 30 and still nurse everything unpleasant that happens is "they did this to me!"
mircea_popescu: as in, drives car into the wall ?
mircea_popescu: the wall hit me!
BTC-Mining: ...
mircea_popescu: goes all in opponent doesn't fold ?
BTC-Mining: I get the point
smickles: mircea_popescu: you make it sound more french
mircea_popescu: opponent stacked him!
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 33 @ 0.9739 = 32.1387 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 14222 @ 0.00100036 = 14.2271 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3799 @ 0.0009956 = 3.7823 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 19081 @ 0.00099409 = 18.9682 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10351 @ 0.00098257 = 10.1706 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4688 @ 0.00095743 = 4.4884 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9859 @ 0.00095627 = 9.4279 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: Now to a more interesting topic
boonies4u: yes?
smickles: .py 6/15.0
markac: 0.4
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 17 @ 0.98 = 16.66 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: http://www.efda.org/jet/jet%E2%80%99s-main-features/
BTC-Mining: Ah, how science loves to do inneficient things, just trying.
mircea_popescu: most things we use today were inefficient to start with.
BTC-Mining: I hear they're getting closer to getting a 0 sum reactor.
BTC-Mining: Eventually, hopefully, fusion reactors that produce more than they consume
smickles: BTC-Mining: that's interesting, but have you seen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 ?
BTC-Mining: I stopped at seeing the title
boonies4u: ^
smickles: :P
BTC-Mining: It needs ANOTHER title...
boonies4u: BTC-Mining: what if they just can't get better than 0 sum?
mircea_popescu: i kinda enjoyed it actually.
boonies4u: or just gets closer and closer to 0 sum?
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.6799 = 4.7593 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: I doubt it...
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.2879 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.288 = 5.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 179 @ 0.289 = 51.731 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 16 @ 0.289 = 4.624 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: It technically generate a lot of energy, the issue is more of how long they can sustain it compared to the energy required to jumpstart the reaction and keep it stable.
BTC-Mining: But hey, it's fusion!
BTC-Mining: and it works
EmanuelDeOrtego: Somebody posted Pirate's family information on the forum
boonies4u: yes, we will never run out of helium
EmanuelDeOrtego: If Pirate doesn't pay
boonies4u: right, BTC-Mining ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.289 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: he's dead
EmanuelDeOrtego: So, my bets are on him paying
BTC-Mining: we need hydrogen, not helium
EmanuelDeOrtego: else facing a horrible time
BTC-Mining: deuterium and tritium
boonies4u: BTC-Mining: then fusion doesn't do us much good, if we need hydrogen
BTC-Mining: Why not?
boonies4u: because fusion makes helium
boonies4u: :P
assbot: [GLBSE] [SYNERGY] 23 @ 0.194999 = 4.485 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Oh, I thought you meant for making fusion with
assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 24 @ 0.0154 = 0.3696 BTC [+]
boonies4u: I wonder what we'll do with all the helium produced from fusion reactors
boonies4u: make balloons?
boonies4u: or use it for cooling?
assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 20 @ 0.0155 = 0.31 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: save it for later fusion
smickles: boonies4u: make a liquid that flows uphill
boonies4u: smickles: lol
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego poor people can't pay. also, link ?
smickles: it's true tho
boonies4u: mircea_popescu: dear god, do we even want to go beyond helium?
boonies4u: mircea_popescu: that sounds scary
mircea_popescu: boonies4u there's nothing we won't eventually try.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 20 @ 0.09938 = 1.9876 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: have you seen the guy suckuing his own cock ?
smickles: i won't settle until there is lead fusion @.@
boonies4u: smickles: why not bismuth?
smickles: why not uuo
assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 50 @ 0.016 = 0.8 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: mircea_popescu: deleted
mircea_popescu: well, did you copy it ?
smickles: boonies4u: to answer you question seriously
EmanuelDeOrtego: Ugh, I am not going to let you murder him.
boonies4u: smickles: bismuth is stable enough :/
mircea_popescu: i don't care either way lol
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.084 = 0.84 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: the total plasma volume is 200 cubic metres
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.61, Best ask: 10.6355, Bid-ask spread: 0.02550, Last trade: 10.62929, 24 hour volume: 30208, 24 hour low: 10.446, 24 hour high: 10.6355
assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 50 @ 0.0165 = 0.825 BTC [+]
smickles: oh sorry boonies4u, i didn't finish my statement
boonies4u: smickles: go on :3
smickles: i was going to explicitly point out that i don't have any knowledge on the topic
boonies4u: I see
boonies4u: well, Bismuth is technically unstable
boonies4u: but it has an extremely long half-life
boonies4u: and is pretty much safe to handle
smickles: only for lack of trying tho
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 10 @ 0.9999999 = 10 BTC [-]
boonies4u: smickles: do you even know what a half-life is?
smickles: i do
smickles: i actually vaguely recall reading information about what you just said about bismuth
boonies4u: cool :3
BTC-Mining: the half-life of bismuth is like billions of times the estimated age of the universe...
smickles: after doing well at 'merican highschool chemistry and physics, i went on to study philosophy in college
BTC-Mining: It's not going away anytime soon
BTC-Mining: :'O
BTC-Mining: Such beauty
BTC-Mining: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Bi-crystal.jpg
BTC-Mining: Didn't know bismuth could look like that
smickles: now that's a horse of a different color
smickles: what leads to it looking like that?
BTC-Mining: and this one: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Wismut_Kristall_und_1cm3_Wuerfel.jpg
BTC-Mining: this one is artificial apparently
BTC-Mining: they're bismuth crystals
BTC-Mining: the color comes from oxidation
BTC-Mining: reflect various hues
smickles: it's an "OG" fractal!
BTC-Mining: looks like oil marks in water
BTC-Mining: or soap bubbles
smickles: yes, but much more defined
assbot: [GLBSE] [PLATINUM] 169 @ 0.01 = 1.69 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 2 @ 0.16 = 0.32 BTC [-]
boonies4u: Bismuth is beautiful
BTC-Mining: It's actually quite dull when plain ore
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24330 @ 0.00038419 = 9.3473 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.0802 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11938 @ 0.00097669 = 11.6597 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090N] 5 @ 0.12974999 = 0.6487 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ahaha. over one million orders processed.
Diablo-D3: heh
Diablo-D3: botsh
mircea_popescu: myea.
mircea_popescu: .py 10^6 / (3600 * 24 * 30 *4)
markac: 10
EmanuelDeOrtego: one million orders?
EmanuelDeOrtego: for what?
mircea_popescu: average ten orders a second for the past 4 months eh.
mircea_popescu: .py 10^6 / (3600 * 24 * 30 *4.0)
markac: TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for ^: 'int' and 'float'
mircea_popescu: .py (10^6) / (3600 * 24 * 30 *4.0)
markac: 1.15740740741e-06
mircea_popescu: um
mircea_popescu: mno. one every 10 seconds.
mircea_popescu: that sounds moar like it.
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego for mpex stuff.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Ah.
mircea_popescu: the entire client facing part just got some massive upgrade
mircea_popescu: to make the site not be slow anymore.
mircea_popescu: course it wasn't actually slow.
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 2 @ 1.5601 = 3.1202 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 2 @ 1.56 = 3.12 BTC [-]
boonies4u: when I see that ^
boonies4u: it makes me think it's raising funds for a hydro op
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.9739 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 63 @ 0.33 = 20.79 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0034 = 0.34 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.34 = 3.4 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it's not ?
mircea_popescu: ;;topic
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assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 10 @ 0.00999999 = 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.MINING] 21 @ 0.098 = 2.058 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.MINING] 9 @ 0.099 = 0.891 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110N] 2 @ 0.24775052 = 0.4955 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 43 @ 0.098 = 4.214 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 22 @ 0.09948 = 2.1886 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: lots of things have been said
Chaang-Noi: but no, almost nothing has been paid bak and pirate is saying he is running behind
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 4 @ 0.265 = 1.06 BTC [+]
Tritonio: So people had seriously invested 5 million $ in his "scheme"?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 250 @ 0.00352303 = 0.8808 BTC [+]
Tritonio: and why is this bot called assbot???
farfi: no - probably most f the 5M$ is the intrest.
mircea_popescu: Transisto yes.
mircea_popescu: and the bot is called assbot cause we don't like tits around these here parts.
kakobrekla: lol
kakobrekla: good morning xD
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.9699 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: hehe hi
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.97 = 3.88 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: morning
kakobrekla: hows it going fellas
Chaang-Noi: it would be better if pirate paid out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00038226 = 6.1544 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi i seriously think by now (next monday) all pirate debt has to be provisioned for / downgraded to $0 in accounting sheets.
kakobrekla: did you have any private talk with him Chaang-Noi
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.97 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: no talks no
Chaang-Noi: downgrade to $0 on what?
Chaang-Noi: i have already done that on my personal books if that is what you are talking about
Chaang-Noi: but i cant set the bonds to nothing
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.3399 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi ya that's what i meant.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35835 @ 0.00038325 = 13.7338 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 11.7121, Best ask: 11.83642, Bid-ask spread: 0.12432, Last trade: 11.7121, 24 hour volume: 100168, 24 hour low: 10.52, 24 hour high: 12.14999
kakobrekla: wtf
kakobrekla: ??
EmanuelDeOrtego: It's Pirate
EmanuelDeOrtego: He doesn't have the coins
EmanuelDeOrtego: Thus UP UP UP
PsychoticBoy: duh
PsychoticBoy: finally realizing its aponzi?
kakobrekla: im not so sure its him
Chaang-Noi: mircea i did that like 5 days ago...
PsychoticBoy: this will be the bigest scam since bitcoinica
mircea_popescu: i don't think it's him either.
Chaang-Noi: since? lol
EmanuelDeOrtego: The market has written off the losses
mircea_popescu: market was on an upswing.
mircea_popescu: the guy sold out his remaning coins, causeda little panic, he's out of the picture
Chaang-Noi: i think biggest scam ever in btc land
mircea_popescu: (with about 500k - 1mn of investor's money0
mircea_popescu: and now we're headed back to 15.
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 60 @ 0.06 = 3.6 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: most of that was interest
PsychoticBoy: indeed
mircea_popescu: i woner if it's the last big scam.
mircea_popescu: as the value of btc goes up and people stop being forum retards it might be the case.
EmanuelDeOrtego: "I know you guys want updates and communication, but I'm somewhat muted by the personal attacks and legalities of whats going on. There is a lot more to this story than just "Send me back my coins." If I had all the coins just sitting around I would've has this wrapped up a long time ago.
EmanuelDeOrtego: "
EmanuelDeOrtego: lol
mircea_popescu: lolz
EmanuelDeOrtego: I believed in Pirate before. He had a good mouth.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Now I see he's a load of shit.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 4000 @ 0.0034 = 13.6 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: finally ding ding we have a winner
EmanuelDeOrtego: Matthew is going to be out $130k
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego he;'s just a liar.
mircea_popescu: he's not going to be out $5 of his own money on the grounds he never had $5.
PsychoticBoy: both matthew and pirate lol
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 6 @ 0.32 = 1.92 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !ticker gsdpt
assbot: [GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.0032] [Ask: 0.0034] [Spread: 0.0002] [Last: 0.0034] [24hVol: 210.8316] [7dAvg: 0.00375385]
Chaang-Noi: "legalities"
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 6 @ 0.13476 = 0.8086 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: i highly doubt matthew will pay the money owed withine 30 days
mircea_popescu: well presumably people betting with him used an escrow.
Chaang-Noi: nope
Chaang-Noi: i tried
Chaang-Noi: he wont do it
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
mircea_popescu: scammer.
Chaang-Noi: he will for like 5 btc but nothing over 100
mircea_popescu: right.
Chaang-Noi: its perfect he either wins so much money or he just gets a scammer tag...
mircea_popescu: which he should have anyway, so.
Chaang-Noi: everyone sees him as a troll scammer anyway
mircea_popescu: yea.
EmanuelDeOrtego: I'll be disappointed in him if that's the case.
mircea_popescu: it's ok, he'll pay everyone in magazines.
EmanuelDeOrtego: but anything goes in today's world.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Men used to live and die by their reputation.
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego they still do. men, that is.
mircea_popescu: i think one unavoidable consequence of the bitcoin new world will be honor suicides will come back in a big way.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Eskimo-Bob is trying to tell Evoorhees how to run his company
EmanuelDeOrtego: and that if he doesn't sell the remainder of the stock, he doesn't get its respective profits :/
guruvan-: one can only hope ;-D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8342 @ 0.00038325 = 3.1971 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15735 @ 0.00038481 = 6.055 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18623 @ 0.0003857 = 7.1829 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego EskimoBob knows a lot about things he has no ideea about.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.3202 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.3201 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile im over 100k option contracts traded this month
mircea_popescu: which makes it something like... the sum of all history i think ?
mircea_popescu: haha 13k in july, 11k in june, 5k in may. yyyyyy...eah!
mircea_popescu: 25k in april.
Chaaang-Noi: wonder how much of that is pirate? :)
smickles: < Chaang-Noi> i highly doubt matthew will pay the money owed withine 30 days << does this mean the pirate issue is settled? he defaulted?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00038226 = 2.4847 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.00038112 = 11.9291 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00038081 = 6.5499 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: pirate defaulted, will pirate ever pay back all his debt? who knows...
nefario1: its official now?
assbot: [GLBSE] [STANDARD.GOLD] 42 @ 0.000053 = 0.0022 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [STANDARD.GOLD] 88 @ 0.0000535 = 0.0047 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [STANDARD.GOLD] 131 @ 0.000056 = 0.0073 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [STANDARD.GOLD] 139 @ 0.000059 = 0.0082 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.3202 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 11 @ 0.3201 = 3.5211 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.09 = 0.54 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00038081 = 0.0762 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19727 @ 0.00038066 = 7.5093 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i don't think nanotube alloted his bet yet, but on the other hand... it's monday. full week passed.
kakobrekla: he has another week afaik
nanotube: bet default is 14 days
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 12 @ 0.06 = 0.72 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: nanotube so if he hasn't paid in full by the 2nd or something, you're paying out ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.09 = 0.27 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: I really hope Matthew pays since he'll have to place a market order.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 11.60128, Best ask: 11.6898, Bid-ask spread: 0.08852, Last trade: 11.60128, 24 hour volume: 102320, 24 hour low: 10.52, 24 hour high: 12.14999
mircea_popescu: o whoa, a dollar while i slept ?
mircea_popescu: how could one not love btc, goes to bed worth 5 mn, wakes up worth 5.5 mn
nanotube: heh
mircea_popescu: I R MAEK MONY WHILE I SLEEP
nanotube: earliest recorded withdrawal request must be paid out by aug29.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 10 @ 0.132 = 1.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 50 @ 0.132 = 6.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 4 @ 0.1310001 = 0.524 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.131 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 35 @ 0.13 = 4.55 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: nanotube is it something like 15 btc or w/e ?
EmanuelDeOrtego: YAY
EmanuelDeOrtego: GMVT-BOT finally crashes
nanotube: mircea_popescu: i'm not sure of the size of it. it was made by payb.tc
mircea_popescu: well at any rate, im sure more cam in during the interval. the entire thing is for this to not drag on for months
mircea_popescu: it will depress markets.
mircea_popescu: if it gets called by early september that's jus' fine.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 17 @ 0.0034 = 0.0578 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: People will give up by mid-September
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.95262 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.95261 = 3.8104 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.9525 = 9.525 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.95231 = 4.7616 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.951 = 5.706 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.9506 = 3.8024 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.9505 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.95001 = 5.7001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 9 @ 0.93 = 8.37 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 22 @ 0.928 = 20.416 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.911 = 3.644 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i think the guy is hell bent on doing a full fledged stockholm syndrome thing.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.104 = 0.416 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6100 @ 0.00094423 = 5.7598 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11500 @ 0.00094196 = 10.8325 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6680 @ 0.00093931 = 6.2746 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15600 @ 0.0009391 = 14.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3428 @ 0.00093592 = 3.2083 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1000 @ 0.00093588 = 0.9359 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5692 @ 0.00093293 = 5.3102 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.4629 = 0.9258 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 367 @ 0.00093293 = 0.3424 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15800 @ 0.00092334 = 14.5888 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11664 @ 0.00092305 = 10.7665 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3600 @ 0.00091823 = 3.3056 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 18569 @ 0.00091667 = 17.0216 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: "I proved how week you all are. Now I will be taking your money as compensation."
EmanuelDeOrtego: weak*
nanotube: shut up and keep buying up bitcoins. :)
mircea_popescu: seize them and bring them to mee
mircea_popescu: no but srsly, he'll prolly issue collectible printed certificates of 7% interest
mircea_popescu: before it's all done.
EmanuelDeOrtego: I would lol so hard
mircea_popescu: ppl'd be like... all keeping the shit
mircea_popescu: twenty years from now, crazy old cat lady dies in manhattan
mircea_popescu: they find a drawerfull of the shit
EmanuelDeOrtego: Honestly, when people go as far to sell their debt with him at 50% off....
EmanuelDeOrtego: I think he's pretty much done.
mircea_popescu: you mean 75%
EmanuelDeOrtego: I just think people can smell the reality.
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 19 @ 0.998999 = 18.981 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so yesterday i threw a shit fit cause i was sick of the 3 month long draught and threatened to live the country
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 138 @ 0.09 = 12.42 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it started raining last night and it has been raining continuously since.
EmanuelDeOrtego: You can think HAARP for rationing your rain like that.
mircea_popescu: i hope i didn't break anything.
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego nah, just shitty draughty plain. think kentucky.
mircea_popescu: obviously s/draught/drought wtf
EmanuelDeOrtego: Yes : )
EmanuelDeOrtego: Is DeaDTerra going to continue to buy from MPeX and put it on the GLBSE?
EmanuelDeOrtego: For Satoshi Dice that is
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 431 @ 0.00091667 = 0.3951 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9454 @ 0.00091642 = 8.6638 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 115 @ 0.00091526 = 0.1053 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i imagine so.
usagi: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 11.61038, Best ask: 11.699, Bid-ask spread: 0.08862, Last trade: 11.69898, 24 hour volume: 102868, 24 hour low: 10.52, 24 hour high: 12.14999
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Hi usagi
usagi: <hans and franz> lol somebody bought one share of ASICMINER, ja. It is so small. Oh little ASICMINER share, I think I hear your mommy calling.</hans and franz>
EmanuelDeOrtego: lol
EmanuelDeOrtego: I don't know why people do that
mircea_popescu: usagi some people buy 1 share of gsdpt
mircea_popescu: it's even smaller.
EmanuelDeOrtego: "Whoo, I bought one share! I am an investor now!"
EmanuelDeOrtego: "Maybe it will grow 1000x its value!"
mircea_popescu: in which case it will buy a dinner.
usagi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAUmD8EjUbk
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 219 @ 0.14572859 = 31.9146 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: yest puts were selling like crazy
mircea_popescu: nao we move on to calls ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 9 @ 0.00989 = 0.089 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: lol
Chaaang-Noi: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82572.0
EmanuelDeOrtego: 3000 BTC left until we hit $12
Chaaang-Noi: theymos starting the ppts
Chaaang-Noi: if anyone is interested
Chaaang-Noi: we already hit 12
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 11.56, Best ask: 11.6, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 11.56, 24 hour volume: 103844, 24 hour low: 10.52, 24 hour high: 12.14999
EmanuelDeOrtego: Well, you know, again.
EmanuelDeOrtego: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101554.0
EmanuelDeOrtego: This is a funny thread
Azelphur: lol
copumpkin: Chaaang-Noi is a necrophile
Chaaang-Noi: :)
Chaaang-Noi: just wantedpeople to see it
Chaaang-Noi: they are starting to try to get scammer tags for people who did ppts
Chaaang-Noi: just wanted to let people know theymos asked for them...
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.06 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: o, the mood turned that ugly already ?
MrTiggr: thats actually great news, Goat
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 1 @ 0.096 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i remember back in april was it ? when the girl called the "banker" consortium on the forum i dun recall what
mircea_popescu: and they were all sanctimonious and "professional"
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.00989 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: what's bitcoin max ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.3202 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 8 @ 0.3201 = 2.5608 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.32 = 2.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.3151 = 2.2057 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 100 @ 0.31 = 31 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.3 = 2.1 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: MrTiggr why good news?
mircea_popescu: since pirate's BST is closing, bitcoin max will also be closing
mircea_popescu: all accounts will have their deposits returned starting next week, as the coins come in from pirate.
mircea_popescu: ahahaah oooookay.
MrTiggr: well, not necessarilty for that particular reason .. but the addition of scammer tags
Chaaang-Noi: you think theymos will get a scammers tag?
MrTiggr: id rather not speculate
mircea_popescu: "I am now reducing my offer (except for people I've already agreed to a deal with via PM). I will buy a BitcoinMax account for 9% of the balance."
Chaaang-Noi: do you know who Theymos is?
MrTiggr: yes ofc
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.09887 = 0.1977 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 1 @ 0.00999999 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: ?
Chaaang-Noi: and you think theymos might get a scammers tag on his own forum?
MrTiggr: well i doubt it , its not the sort of thing i would comment on tho
Chaaang-Noi: lol
Chaaang-Noi: would you comment on if you think matthew w will pay his bet if he will lose?
MrTiggr: i would not comment
mircea_popescu: poor tiggr.
mircea_popescu: why would he comment ? what's he to do with the entiore thing ?
MrTiggr: im too fat from eating popcoin already
Chaaang-Noi: he said it was good news
mircea_popescu: lol
Chaaang-Noi: <MrTiggr> thats actually great news, Goat
MrTiggr: the addition of a scammer tag to the forums in general, yes
Chaaang-Noi: i just dont understand who its good for
mircea_popescu: lmao, mark the entire forum as scammers ?
Chaaang-Noi: the whole forum should ahve a scammers tag?
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
Chaaang-Noi: yeah im loling too
MrTiggr: no, ? is there that function already ?
MrTiggr: to tag as scammer
MrTiggr: ivew not seen that
mircea_popescu: wasn't it there for years ?
MrTiggr: *color me blind*
MrTiggr: ive not seen it
mircea_popescu: im confused
Chaaang-Noi: mr tiggr is not the person i thought he was
mircea_popescu: i coulda sworn they had it
MrTiggr: if its been there for ages then im funny as hell
Chaaang-Noi: he is either ignorant as fuck or a n00b
mircea_popescu: ;;ident MrTiggr
gribble: Nick 'MrTiggr', with hostmask 'MrTiggr!~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr', is not identified.
Chaaang-Noi: this must not be the bitcoin police guy
mircea_popescu: mmm, he's the guy with the graph robot etc no ?
mircea_popescu: ya he is cause my chan id's him.
Chaaang-Noi: hmmm
MrTiggr: yes thats me
MrTiggr: both treu , police and graphs
Chaaang-Noi: ...
MrTiggr: i dont forum post much though
Chaaang-Noi: i lost a whole lot of respect for you just now
MrTiggr: ive never noticed the ability to tag someone as a scammer
mircea_popescu: apparently the forum is more irrelevant than i thought.
Chaaang-Noi: yeah
MrTiggr: ^^ check my account
Chaaang-Noi: i lost some respect for the forum as well
MrTiggr: i think ive posted like 5 times or sumthing
Chaaang-Noi: hmm ok
Chaaang-Noi: wel lanyway yes
Chaaang-Noi: people can be tagged as a scammer
MrTiggr: nice
Chaaang-Noi: pirate will be if he wont pay out
Chaaang-Noi: well maybe
Chaaang-Noi: zhou was not
MrTiggr: certainly
Chaaang-Noi: intersango was not...
MrTiggr: ?? he wasnt
MrTiggr: not sooo surprized on intersango
Chaaang-Noi: theymos was taking money from zhou to place adds
MrTiggr: but ZT didnt ?
mircea_popescu: MrTiggr well, forum style. they have a tag, but they use it democratically.
Chaaang-Noi: matthew w no longer has a scammer tag
MrTiggr: aaah NOW i see
hctib: what happened at the forum?
mircea_popescu: Chaaang-Noi hahaha he was de-scammerized ? hao ?
Chaaang-Noi: matthew said sorry and paid back
MrTiggr: so, the scammer tag isnt being applied appropriately it would seem
MrTiggr: :P
Chaaang-Noi: the forum is a fucking joke
Chaaang-Noi: we need a new one...
MrTiggr: thats where i eat the most popcoin!
MrTiggr: :P
Chaaang-Noi: if pirate will pay out ill fucking support one...
mircea_popescu: Chaaang-Noi hey don't knock it, plenty of humour there albeit involuntary.
hctib: how is the forum a joke?
Chaaang-Noi: :)
MrTiggr: they should just merge it with SomethingAweful and be dun with it
mircea_popescu: hctib collection of idiots too incompetent to realise they're incompetent going at complex subjects ?
mircea_popescu: how could it NOT be
hctib: only way to stop that is a by invitation only forum.
MrTiggr: Chaaang-Noi: if pirate pays out and you want to come good on that - i will put up the servers to host it
Chaaang-Noi: MrTiggr i might do it anyway
Chaaang-Noi: it will be invite only
Chaaang-Noi: at first atleast...
MrTiggr: ^shout me if you do; im up for that
mircea_popescu: why would intersango be tagged anyway ? they didn't do anything.
Chaaang-Noi: lol
MrTiggr: is there a "got scammed" tag ?
mircea_popescu: lol!
Chaaang-Noi: now almost the whole forum would have that one...
MrTiggr: :)
mircea_popescu: so should i throw up olympus on a server somewhere ?
Chaaang-Noi: including me twice
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00038112 = 9.2612 BTC [+]
MrTiggr: fool me once.....
MrTiggr: :P
hctib: fool me can't get fooled again.
mircea_popescu: hctib the problem with invite only forums is that they grow stale
mircea_popescu: everyone agrees with everyone
EmanuelDeOrtego: like SomethingAwful
mircea_popescu: yes.
MrTiggr: ^^ see my comment before
MrTiggr: <MrTiggr> they should just merge it with SomethingAweful and be dun with it
mircea_popescu: yeah.
MrTiggr: ;)
hctib: mircea_popescu: good point.
EmanuelDeOrtego: mircea_popescu: Tell evoorhees to launch his new site if he wants more sales.
MrTiggr: lol - interestingly ... i got a "lilke" from "CosbyCoin" today on the BitcoinAus site
MrTiggr: *like
mircea_popescu: i don't even remember, when was it due ?
EmanuelDeOrtego: Mid-Semptember
EmanuelDeOrtego: Sept*
mircea_popescu: well ?
MrTiggr: i wudnt be surprised if the SAGoons are stirring
EmanuelDeOrtego: I am too impatient it seems
EmanuelDeOrtego: I just want to make a quick move and get out of it. : P
kakobrekla: wohoo magicaltux is making a special api just for smpake ;)
mircea_popescu: eh let him be, he ran the business up till now im sure he's gonna manage from now on
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla cool!
smickles: 'gratz kakobrekla
nefario1: >as Meni Rosenfeld pointed out, the "insurance" is mostly meaningless and only makes figuring out the risk/reward more difficult.
nefario1: theymos
kakobrekla: ty :)
nefario1: ha
nefario1: DeadTerra has paid out
nefario1: as have Goat
nefario1: PPT I don't know yet
mircea_popescu: are their insured bonds retired now ?
nefario1: I think so
mircea_popescu: a, that is a good thing then.
nefario1: Chaaang-Noi: what was your insured PPT?
Chaaang-Noi: PI
nefario1: ok
Chaaang-Noi: see that bid wall
mircea_popescu: and meni rosenfeld should get "pretentious dummy of the month" award.
nefario1: so I can freeze it?
Chaaang-Noi: its to cover all shares
Chaaang-Noi: nefario1 no
mircea_popescu: i don't recall him saying something sensible, but he's got some airs about him something fierce.
nefario1: Chaaang-Noi: let me know when to retire any of your assets
Chaaang-Noi: cuz i said if pirate did pay out i would pay a weeks interesy
Chaaang-Noi: interest
Chaaang-Noi: so...
Chaaang-Noi: people are waiting cuz they might get .055 more per bond
nefario1: not yet
nefario1: ok
Chaaang-Noi: yeah, lets just wait
mircea_popescu: Chaaang-Noi i think many holders don't check their accounts too regularly.
Chaaang-Noi: i dont want to go back on something i said in the forun
smickles: hey, insureance doesn't make valuation more difficult if the company in question reports its financial status properly :P]
Chaaang-Noi: forum
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 3 @ 0.2628 = 0.7884 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 3 @ 0.2627 = 0.7881 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 10 @ 0.2626 = 2.626 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 39 @ 0.26 = 10.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 16 @ 0.1298 = 2.0768 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Chaang-Noi: http://www.betsofbitco.in/item?id=588
nefario1: DeaDTerra: is GIPPT still trading? isn't it finished?
JWU_42: oh boy
JWU_42: they are getting scary low again
JWU_42: BIB.PIRATE and TYGRR-BOND-P
mircea_popescu: JWU_42 i wouldn't expect a rally.
JWU_42: heh - sadly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 117 @ 0.00352293 = 0.4122 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: better off this way. lessons learned, moving on.
JWU_42: better for some maybe - not me
nefario1: mircea_popescu: I think not
nefario1: there will be plenty of people willing to get bitten again
nefario1: maybe not the same
nefario1: perhaps a new batch
mircea_popescu: i doubt it.
mircea_popescu: suckers will ever be
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 9 @ 0.949999 = 8.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 6 @ 0.949999 = 5.7 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: but the sort of mass hysteria where people pretending to know finance
nefario1: JWU_42: whats your exposure?
mircea_popescu: were actually claiming this is respectable...
EB250: " nefario1 | as have Goat " ???
mircea_popescu: that's not coming back.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.962 BTC [+]
JWU_42: nefario1: plenty
nefario1: ouch
EB250: paid out?
nefario1: gambling
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 5 @ 0.7999 = 3.9995 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: JWU_42 listen, for my own curiosity. did you read the girl's post on the forum back in april or w/e, explaining exactly why pirate is nothing to get involved in ?
nefario1: the only thing being gambled on is the time of default
nefario1: and whether you can get out in itme
nefario1: time
JWU_42: mircea_popescu: yes
mircea_popescu: and what you made of it, at that time ?
JWU_42: opinons are like a**holes
mircea_popescu: i see.
JWU_42: and yes - I get what I get - I took the risk
nefario1: JWU_42: how are opinions like assholes? do tell
mircea_popescu: everyone has one.
nefario1: lol
JWU_42: nefario1: everyone has one...
EmanuelDeOrtego: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1137034#msg1137034 MAKE IT STOP
Chaaang-Noi: atlasi wont bet on that..
mircea_popescu: JWU_42 im not saying anything, i was honestly just curious what could have been done differently to help people at that time.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Of course. Just thought it might intrigue you
mircea_popescu: we had a two hour argument in my board over what exactly to do.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.0003816 = 4.4647 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27613 @ 0.00038066 = 10.5112 BTC [-]
JWU_42: as he has said - shutting it down abruptly has caused more problems then winding it down 9if that is even possible)
mircea_popescu: its a bald face lie.
mircea_popescu: he could have just done his stuff first and shut it down after, if it was in fact planned to survive.
mircea_popescu: it was planned to fail.
JWU_42: mircea_popescu: as with so many things, niot just finance, ego becomes involved and bad decisions are made
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: the thing is, some people actually have a lot of experience and knowledge under their belt.
mircea_popescu: this is not shit. this is there to help others by it.
Chaaang-Noi: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82572.msg1137033#msg1137033
usagi: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PG2mdU_i8k
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 3 @ 0.2601 = 0.7803 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 11 @ 0.24 = 2.64 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: problem with forum-style communications is exactly what you say : opinions become like assholes.
mircea_popescu: we need better hierarchy in btc-land.
kakobrekla: ok
kakobrekla: was that better
JWU_42: heh
mircea_popescu: better how ?
mircea_popescu: o, voice only ?
JWU_42: dictatorship
kakobrekla: im asking :)
JWU_42: ?
Chaaang-Noi: theymosmae 50 btc from my bond..
mircea_popescu: i don't think it was.
Chaaang-Noi: doubt he will get a scammers tag
nefario1: sorry why should theymos get the scammers tag?
EmanuelDeOrtego: He would have to apply it to himself
EmanuelDeOrtego: for the lulz
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0034 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 15 @ 0.5 = 7.5 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: usagi : <assbot> [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0034 BTC [+] :D
Chaaang-Noi: nefario1 people wanted to get ppt people a scammers tag.. then i told and showed them it was theymos who asked for them to be made on glbse
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 30 @ 0.5 = 15 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: i doubt theymos will give you and me scammer tags for something he asked for
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 1 @ 0.01 BTC
Azelphur: usagi: http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html
MrTiggr: ?? can you collect more than one scammer tag ?? like , is there a whole set ?
EmanuelDeOrtego: lol
EmanuelDeOrtego: COLLECT'EM ALL
EmanuelDeOrtego: SCAMMING ACHIEVEMENTS
Chaaang-Noi: lol
Chaaang-Noi: no
Chaaang-Noi: you just get one
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.3101 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 499 @ 0.31 = 154.69 BTC [-]
MrTiggr: scammer yugio
Chaaang-Noi: well matthe might get mroe than one
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 10 @ 0.06 = 0.6 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: yugio lol
MrTiggr: *pokemon (for the older kids)
MrTiggr: you could trade them like magic the gathering cards
MrTiggr: seewotididthere
EmanuelDeOrtego: Achievement Unlocked: Scammed users out of 1000 BTC using fraudulent securities.
MrTiggr: ;;sl mtgox magic the gathering
gribble: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=19632.0 | Because early bitcoin guys liked to trade Magic The Gathering cards. But yeah I agree MtGox should be shutdown or refund millions $ to ...
MrTiggr: grrr
MrTiggr: fu gribbel
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 1 @ 0.145 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: What is the peak of the GLBSE trading day?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0034 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60 @ 0.00038066 = 0.0228 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40765 @ 0.00038058 = 15.5143 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1875 @ 0.00038026 = 0.713 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: glbse is slow now
usagi: Azelphur: Last updated: July 24, 2000
usagi: hahaha
Azelphur: usagi: still valid
Azelphur: the annoyingness of away messages has not decreased over the past decade :P
EmanuelDeOrtego: Whoa
usagi: hehe
EmanuelDeOrtego: lol this guy was using HTML5 before it was cool.
EmanuelDeOrtego: It's just a plain <html> tag
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 1 @ 0.9999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P080N] 10 @ 0.06724003 = 0.6724 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85687.msg1137080#msg1137080
EmanuelDeOrtego: Big day
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.312 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: wghoa nelly
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 11.7211, Best ask: 11.79, Bid-ask spread: 0.06890, Last trade: 11.84, 24 hour volume: 108013, 24 hour low: 10.52, 24 hour high: 12.14999
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.312 = 1.248 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1039 BTC [-]
BTCHero: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 195943 | Current Difficulty: 2440642.606916 | Next Difficulty At Block: 197567 | Next Difficulty In: 1624 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 13 hours, 31 minutes, and 28 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2612644.47566272 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.04740088775
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16646 @ 0.00038026 = 6.3298 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33763 @ 0.00038014 = 12.8347 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: More threats of violence are being made against Pirate.
EmanuelDeOrtego: People know where he lives.
EmanuelDeOrtego: He's going to pay or he's going to have to skip town.
EmanuelDeOrtego: The latter might be cheaper.
EskimoBob: I was skimming the log and I see you 2 dimwits ( mircea_popescu and EmanuelDeOrtego) have really hard time saying anything with a value. What if you 2 get a private room and amuse each other in privacy?
EmanuelDeOrtego: *crickets*
EskimoBob: EmanuelDeOrtego: you are right, even crickets have more to say than you 2
smickles: ooh
smickles: dragon dice are a nice brand
smickles: good construction
usagi: They stole my name.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13400 @ 0.00094661 = 12.6846 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 900 @ 0.00095074 = 0.8557 BTC [+]
usagi: I invented a game called dragon dice on a mud in the early 90s
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 18 @ 0.235 = 4.23 BTC [-]
usagi: Medievia
Chaaang-Noi: .235 hmmm
usagi: I wrote a gambling bot there. And they banned me because they thought I was scamming
EmanuelDeOrtego: lol
EmanuelDeOrtego: I miss the 90s
mircea_popescu: sucks.
usagi: Later when I showed them the code they let me back on but they wouldnt let me play the bot
usagi: So I moved to ultima online and did it there. It blew up because someone martingaled me and I didnt have the capital
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.9599 = 3.8396 BTC [-]
usagi: I lost like 7000 UO gold
EmanuelDeOrtego: The house always has to win. : (
mircea_popescu: haha
usagi: it was over a week's worth of farming
jcpham: EmanuelDeOrtego y u no trollin somewhere else
mircea_popescu: jcpham : when did you register a request to be paid out from pirate ?
jcpham: interestingly enough
jcpham: i have not made one yet
EmanuelDeOrtego: lol
mircea_popescu: um ?!
EmanuelDeOrtego: jcpham: Stating reality isn't trolling.
jcpham: did i not answer poperly?
EmanuelDeOrtego: I am sorry you lost money.
mircea_popescu: so how do you expect to be paid then lol
jcpham: i'm not sure
Chaaang-Noi: i made a request
mircea_popescu: ahahah
mircea_popescu: when Chaaang-Noi ?
jcpham: where does one register a request
jcpham: and why does register
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.098 = 0.196 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: 15th or 16th texas time
mircea_popescu: well i dunno, all i know is nanotube mentioned this
jcpham: if the interest is runnin
Chaaang-Noi: im before the guy nanotube knowsabout
jcpham: i've made no request
Chaaang-Noi: iv not talked to nanotube
jcpham: and i'm no obligated to anyone downstream
mircea_popescu: Aug 27 16:23:07 <nanotube> earliest recorded withdrawal request must be paid out by aug29.
jcpham: this is where the pass-throughs fucked up tbh
jcpham: you pass-through guys are in default
jcpham: because you accepted money from others
jcpham: which you shouldn't have done if you couldn't cover it
jcpham: but i've made no request ad i expect full interest
mircea_popescu: well, here's to hoping your expector is in good working order
jcpham: i believe i had the chance to recover some funds but i declined
jcpham: respectfully
mircea_popescu: aha ?
jcpham: it's all shuffled around, you see
jcpham: more like investing in people
jcpham: so strange
mircea_popescu: uhm
mircea_popescu: i dont really follow.
jcpham: let's eat ponies
jcpham: and shit unicorns
EmanuelDeOrtego: I imagine Pirate is going to start playing victim at some point.
mod6: smh
EmanuelDeOrtego: Talking about how more people threatened his family.
EmanuelDeOrtego: and that he has to give up for safety and that we only have ourselves to blame.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Then I will laugh.
mircea_popescu: i really like the international aspect of bitcoin. im atm talking to a chinese guy who spent 48 hours trying to get gpg going and a romanian guy who's trying to buy bitcoins but the bank fees are huge.
mircea_popescu: the world is such a large place...
jcpham: at some point i'm goin to not pay attention to irc anymore
jcpham: hopefully soon
mircea_popescu: jcpham moving to the forums ?
jcpham: funny guy
mircea_popescu: >D
EmanuelDeOrtego: jcpham is really hurting
EmanuelDeOrtego: he had a lot of money with Pirate
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.9332 = 3.7328 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.9331 = 3.7324 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.881 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 9 @ 0.855 = 7.695 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 60 @ 0.854 = 51.24 BTC [-]
jcpham: few thousand or less
jcpham: bbl shower
EmanuelDeOrtego: Matthew's bet is going to set the standard with this.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00038272 = 12.1705 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: We will be counting down Sept. 9
jcpham: yeah matt is way more involved
jcpham: i hope he knows something i don't ;)
smickles: !ticker s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0034 / 0.0034 / 0.0034 (30250 shares, 102.85 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00322446 / 0.0034 (2295200 shares, 7,400.78 BTC)
jcpham: i can tell you that all my actual principal was withdrawn and used elsewhere
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4058 @ 0.00095074 = 3.8581 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6942 @ 0.00095334 = 6.6181 BTC [+]
jcpham: and my coount balance was all crazy interest
jcpham: if that helps
EskimoBob: nefario1: what happened to GLBSE? It's getting slow again
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1039 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3855 @ 0.00038272 = 1.4754 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29337 @ 0.00038014 = 11.1522 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00037994 = 1.1778 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24416 @ 0.00037985 = 9.2744 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 10 @ 1 = 10 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: !pl NYAN.C
assbot: !pl <ticker> [<amount>@]<bought at> [<YYYY-MM-DD>]
EskimoBob: !pl NYAN.C 1
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: NYAN.C [1@1BTC] paid: 0.10580463 BTC. Last price: 0.7 BTC. Capital gain: -0.3 BTC. Total: -0.19419537 BTC. (-19.4%)
EskimoBob: !pl NYAN.A 1
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: NYAN.A [1@1BTC] paid: 0.04 BTC. Last price: 1 BTC. Capital gain: 0 BTC. Total: 0.04 BTC. (4%)
EskimoBob: !pl NYAN.B 1
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: NYAN.B [1@1BTC] paid: 0.06081227 BTC. Last price: 1 BTC. Capital gain: 0 BTC. Total: 0.06081227 BTC. (6.1%)
EmanuelDeOrtego: Pirate might be back on the market again.
usagi: !p NYAN 1
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.66 BTC [-]
usagi: !pl NYAN
assbot: !pl <ticker> [<amount>@]<bought at> [<YYYY-MM-DD>]
usagi: !pl NYAN 1
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: NYAN [1@1BTC] paid: 0.05157803 BTC. Last price: 0.9999 BTC. Capital gain: -9.9999999999989E-5 BTC. Total: 0.05147803 BTC. (5.1%)
EskimoBob: EmanuelDeOrtego: do you invent this bs as you go or is this some type of script you read and repeat when nothing else comes to mind?
assbot: [GLBSE] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.194999 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: hm i should clear the output there
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.098 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 58 @ 0.0034 = 0.1972 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 54705 @ 0.0034 = 185.997 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0034 = 0.0068 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 1 @ 0.095 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: BUY MOAR GSDPT
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21363 @ 0.00037985 = 8.1147 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00037983 = 2.279 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00037976 = 4.6331 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15537 @ 0.00037939 = 5.8946 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 7 @ 1.17 = 8.19 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: <jcpham> and my coount balance was all crazy interest << i wonder how often this is the case.
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.13476 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINTORRENTZ] 5 @ 0.66599 = 3.33 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 3 @ 0.135 = 0.405 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: I have bought more backing so keep buying GSDPT ;)
mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_follows_the_plow this is the previous version of "global warming"
mircea_popescu: !ticker s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0034 / 0.0034 / 0.0034 (84955 shares, 288.85 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00322854 / 0.0034 (2349905 shares, 7,586.78 BTC)
EskimoBob: Are you sure you are not the only one who buys that stuff in mpex?
mircea_popescu: lol that worked out nicely then
jcpham: wat did i miss
jcpham: yes "crazy interest"
jcpham: my words
smickles: EskimoBob: I know he's not the only one buying on mpex
smickles: i have clients too
EskimoBob: still makes no sense why did he do the "IPO" in this dump called mpex
jcpham: somebody has to operate an exchange
smickles: personally, i prefer mpex to glbse right now, but i use both
jcpham: EskimoBob do you have an securities exchange
jcpham: i don't
jcpham: i'm in no position to judge others
EskimoBob: jcpham: as a client, sure you are.
jcpham: i'm way too kind then
smickles: on one hand, mpex gives faster and more reliable service
smickles: on the other, glbse has more listings
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 26 @ 0.06 = 1.56 BTC [+]
smickles: oddly enough, i think that mpex has better charts (on the assumption that you know how the axees are defined)
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.MINING] 1 @ 0.099 BTC [+]
smickles: glbse gives easier access to historical dividend information
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.86 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.855 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.8541 = 3.4164 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 14 @ 0.854 = 11.956 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 9 @ 0.853 = 7.677 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 11 @ 0.852 = 9.372 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.85 = 4.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 15 @ 0.85 = 12.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ya, what exactly is your hate EskimoBob ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26900 @ 0.00037939 = 10.2056 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: you're like those people ranting about the superiority of honda civics to "shit cars" or w/e
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13463 @ 0.00037939 = 5.1077 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00037936 = 2.9211 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7725 @ 0.00037925 = 2.9297 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45100 @ 0.00038127 = 17.1953 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7674 @ 0.00038241 = 2.9346 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2726 @ 0.00038359 = 1.0457 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0988 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.09010011 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.3999 = 0.7998 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0988 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 10 @ 0.3901 = 3.901 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00038221 = 4.2425 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 174 @ 0.00037925 = 0.066 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16406 @ 0.00037906 = 6.2189 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9120 @ 0.00037882 = 3.4548 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.1799 BTC [+]
smickles: ;;view
gribble: #9826 Sat Aug 25 13:45:41 2012 smickles BUY 244.0 mpexbtc @ 244 mpexbtc (I have a deposit in the works, but would like to make an order now, so I'm looking for someone to float me some mpexbtc)
smickles: ;;remove 9826
gribble: Order 9826 removed.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 20 @ 0.18 = 3.6 BTC [+]
smickles: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 11.0162, Best ask: 11.1245, Bid-ask spread: 0.10830, Last trade: 11.0111, 24 hour volume: 131811, 24 hour low: 10.52, 24 hour high: 12.14999
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1039 = 0.5195 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0988 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0988 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0988 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 15 @ 0.104 = 1.56 BTC [+]
smickles: how about that
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0988 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0988 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0988 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: "Pirate: Guys, I want to pay you back but you need to stop paying so much for Bitcoins. You guys only have yourselves to blame, gosh."
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0988 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0988 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0988 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0988 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0988 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DI.BFLSC.FAIL] 1 @ 0.001 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 5 @ 0.02949134 = 0.1475 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 7 @ 0.02815716 = 0.1971 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 0.3201 = 0.9603 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 0.32 = 0.96 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 3 @ 0.221 = 0.663 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 35 @ 0.22 = 7.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 7 @ 0.1 = 0.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 329 @ 0.001045 = 0.3438 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09799 BTC [-]
smickles: ;;bc,24havg
gribble: Error: "bc,24havg" is not a valid command.
smickles: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 11.28
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 12 @ 0.09799 = 1.1759 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.056 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 4 @ 0.052 = 0.208 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.052 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 5 @ 0.051 = 0.255 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 6 @ 0.998999 = 5.994 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 5 @ 0.999 = 4.995 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 3 @ 0.9999789 = 2.9999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 0.9999899 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22961 @ 0.00038359 = 8.8076 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16780 @ 0.00038545 = 6.4679 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 300 @ 0.0034 = 1.02 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: did the world restart ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 56 @ 0.0987 = 5.5272 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0034 = 0.34 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so if anyone is interested in a discussion of btc asset exchanges security : http://trilema.com/2012/security-comparison-of-bitcoin-denominated-instruments-exchanges/
smickles: ostensibly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00037882 = 4.811 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 10 @ 0.3901 = 3.901 BTC [-]
smickles: nefario: would you like to comment on mircea_popescu's recent link
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.0987 = 1.974 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 106 @ 0.08 = 8.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.ABMO] 100 @ 0.075 = 7.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.30021003 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 2 @ 0.18 = 0.36 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3307 @ 0.00095055 = 3.1435 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: smickles or, for that matter, EskimoBob
EmanuelDeOrtego: mircea: Could you open up a SMF forum for securities and speculation on polimedia? : ) It would be nice to have an escape from Bitcointalk
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.4494 = 2.6964 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 200 @ 0.4495 = 89.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 61 @ 0.4497 = 27.4317 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.9289 BTC [+]
smickles: ;;buy 1 '0-262-24039-4' @ 2 BTC
gribble: Order id 9842 created.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.084999 = 0.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.9289 = 1.8578 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 5 @ 0.10099 = 0.505 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego well i could easily make a forum, but...
mircea_popescu: is it worth it really ?
EmanuelDeOrtego: mircea_popescu: It depends on activity
EmanuelDeOrtego: Who here would use Mircea's forum for Bitcointalk-free speculation?
mircea_popescu: tell you what we do : when six people ask for it i'll dump olympus up
EmanuelDeOrtego: Sounds great. We'll see what happens, heh.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.92 = 4.6 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: well
kakobrekla: if its not invite only
kakobrekla: then it will be same
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 0.3201 = 0.9603 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 0.32 = 0.96 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: prolly.
mircea_popescu: maybe btc is just not mature enough to have a real forum ?
mircea_popescu: ormaybe the forum dweller idiots have run everyone off it...
mircea_popescu: i have an ideea actually : wot rating > 5 to post.
mircea_popescu: how's that!
mod6: that will certainly cut down on board trolls
mircea_popescu: course... what if people start giving people wot ratings just to be on the forum ?
mod6: *nod*
mod6: i still <3 irc anyway :)
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 10 @ 0.15999 = 1.5999 BTC [-]
usagi: there are 15 year old video games with more mature forums
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 4 @ 0.15999 = 0.64 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 1 @ 0.15999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.3499 BTC [+]
smickles: interesting tying it to WOT ratings somehow
smickles: is poluting the ratings really all that much of a risk?
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 7 @ 0.69 = 4.83 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: well hard to tell.
mircea_popescu: nanotube : if someone made a forum where posting rights were conditioned on a minimal wot rating, would you consider this detrimental to the wot integrity ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 24 @ 0.5 = 12 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 13 @ 0.5 = 6.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 12 @ 0.5 = 6 BTC [-]
smickles: mircea_popescu: maybe an invite/rating hybrid, new users can only get an account if they are rated by a current user
mircea_popescu: sockpuppettry.
smickles: or a given number of current users
nanotube: mircea_popescu: if it just used cumulative wot, yes, probably will cause a bunch of shilling. if it used web of trust paths from some already-trusted members, no.
mircea_popescu: so how would you best phrase it ? "connect to mirceapopescu" ?
mircea_popescu: or get a line from someone over 100 ?
smickles: i'm not sure if either of those ways is ideal
nanotube: level2 trust > X from selected wot members
smickles: those selected members could be your mods
smickles: maybe
nanotube: (you could extend it to level3 also
nanotube: )
nanotube: smickles: right
mircea_popescu: wouldn't this just make a higher level of shilling ?
nanotube: mircea_popescu: well, they'd have to convince people at the core to actually give them high ratings.
copumpkin: has anyone seen the light about communism yet?
copumpkin: communism is the one true ideology
mircea_popescu: nanotube yea but i mean.. is is pretty much structurally the same thing, we're stressing core people for little direcrt benefit ti them
smickles: copumpkin: i'm so communist that i bleed red
copumpkin: smickles: whoa dude
nanotube: e.g., if someone makes a trade with me for a 1-rating, and then creates a bunch of shill identities who interrate each other with a bunch of high ratings... any of those identities would still have a maximum levelN trust from me of 1.
copumpkin: smickles: come to #bitcoin-comrades
mircea_popescu: nanotube o i see what you mean.
nanotube: well, the core people would presumably not care to make a bunch of .5btc trades with a bunch of noobs to give them out ratings. :)
nanotube: so no stress.
mircea_popescu: nanotube how about this : manual approval of new users based on wot, undisclosed criteria.
nanotube: mircea_popescu: hehe sure, undisclosed criteria works.
mircea_popescu: and irt'd be something common sense
mircea_popescu: i mean let's face it, you can't abstract the human hand & eye from a matter of trust
nanotube: just make sure you mention that it's not cumulative rating. so people don't think "oh it must be a cumulative rating cutoff, let's shill"
mircea_popescu: yes/
mircea_popescu: so like this you'd think it's ok from what you can see ?
smickles: copumpkin: lol, is that even a chanel?
mircea_popescu: smickles you believe evertything costalinkin tells you ?
smickles: mircea_popescu: at some scale, the manual approval would be rough to impliment, no?
mircea_popescu: how many users would you think there are, 500 ?
smickles: you want to begin this with a max user count in mind?
mircea_popescu: no but im jsut saying
mircea_popescu: there aren't going to be five billion users are there.
smickles: probably not
BTCHero: Well, when you guys setup your elite club will one of you please send me an invite :)
mircea_popescu: entire ideea is for to have a community
mircea_popescu: you can't have an infinitely large community, the two are contradictory
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust BTCHero
gribble: Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user BTCHero: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 22 via 13 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=BTCHero
mircea_popescu: ya ok :D
Doffx: Im calling china and letting them know now is the time to get in on mpex
smickles: i like the idea of l2/l3 trust of the mods, and a liberal ban policy
BTCHero: :)
Doffx: After that ill call India
copumpkin: smickles: um
copumpkin: smickles: maybe!
Doffx: gotta make sure we hit that 5 bil mark
mircea_popescu: doffx lol
mircea_popescu: mk, what the hell, lemme do this thing.
mircea_popescu: if nobody uses it or it becomes STUPID i'll just rm it
BTC-Mining: communism doesn't work... I actually haven't seen any system based on common decisions and resource sharing work... Too complicate to manage. Profit drive is an excellent managing tool which doesn't require to have everything managed by the authority... It's hard to get communism to work in a large population solely based on the willingness of each participant to actually share and
BTC-Mining: enforcing it requires to centralize and give everything to the hands of the governments. In theory, it's good, in practice, I doubt it's going to be practical anytime soon seeing the human nature.
smickles: mircea_popescu: might i suggest shred in place of rm?
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining my household/harem works just fine based on common decisions and resource sharing
BTC-Mining: We need more regulated capitalism. Add more restrictions about what can and cannot be done.
mircea_popescu: i make the decisions and share the resources.
BTC-Mining: On a small scale, yes
BTC-Mining: I said in a large population
mircea_popescu: ^^ :p
BTC-Mining: If you're just restriticting to a small group everyone agreed to join, communism works great.
mircea_popescu: anyone want to name this new thing ?
BTC-Mining: It's actually the best, makes the group stronger.
mircea_popescu: polimedia.us/btcgfy ?
smickles: bitcoin great forum yes?
smickles: is that what btcgfy stands for?
mircea_popescu: go fuck yourself, alternatively.
mircea_popescu: it's this massive pr0n industry board. anyway.
mircea_popescu: btcf ?
smickles: btcf, it's concise
smickles: /b/ has other connotations
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.09859999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.1039 = 0.6234 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0986 = 0.3944 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6700 @ 0.00095163 = 6.3759 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 686 @ 0.00095334 = 0.654 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5812 @ 0.00095582 = 5.5552 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2302 @ 0.00095629 = 2.2014 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 193 @ 0.00095055 = 0.1835 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1100 @ 0.0009454 = 1.0399 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15305 @ 0.00094299 = 14.4325 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 193 @ 0.00091526 = 0.1766 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1209 @ 0.00089493 = 1.082 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46120 @ 0.00038545 = 17.777 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11780 @ 0.00038548 = 4.541 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58800 @ 0.00038429 = 22.5963 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00038318 = 2.1841 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.ABMO] 98 @ 0.08 = 7.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.ABMO] 41 @ 0.08 = 3.28 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i think it should contain word ass
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.30021003 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.30011003 = 3.0011 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 603 @ 0.0034 = 2.0502 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: like "assf" as assets form and not ass fucking
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.467 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 30 @ 0.1039 = 3.117 BTC [-]
gabbynot: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.64843, Best ask: 10.65, Bid-ask spread: 0.00157, Last trade: 10.65, 24 hour volume: 148987, 24 hour low: 10.525, 24 hour high: 12.14999
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0986 = 0.986 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0986 = 0.493 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 4 @ 0.3 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.375 = 1.875 BTC [+]
smickles: down to 10.64 already?
BTC-Mining: yeah?
BTC-Mining: High volatility
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 6 @ 0.4469 = 2.6814 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: 10.91495
BTC-Mining: Someone dumpe some shares
BTC-Mining: some BTC*
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 619 @ 0.10934953 = 67.6874 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: arf, I'm thinking GLBSE too much
smickles: lol
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 10 @ 0.447 = 4.47 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.4475 = 2.2375 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.4499 = 2.2495 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.0986 = 5.916 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 0.4499 = 0.8998 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.1039 = 0.9351 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 10 @ 0.09999999 = 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+]
nefario: smickles, that link given by mircea_popescu has a number of factual errors
nefario: there has been no user account compromise
nefario: via dictionary attack
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [-]
smickles: nefario: if you wouldn't mind listing all the factual error, i would like you to point them out
nefario: I.1. Dictionary attack.
nefario: no account has been compromised with a dictionary attack
nefario: II. Interference with the server.
nefario: Emails (salted & hashed ?)
nefario: who ever salts and hashes email addresses?
nefario: III.1. Legal.
nefario: Unregistered. Public face seems to be an English national located in China.
smickles: he was assuming that you salted and hashe the email addresses of your uses to protect leakage inthe event the db was taken (i guess)
nefario: I live in the UK
nefario: weird assumption
nefario: as it would mean we couldn't contact our users
nefario: Holds personally indentifying information of users without a license (an offense in the EU).
nefario: there is no requirement of a "licence" to hold users data
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.2901 BTC [-]
nefario: merely to comply with data protection
smickles: ah
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-]
nefario: Either the exchange itself, the public face or both may be identified at a later date as Does in the Cartmell - Bitcoinica lawsuit.
nefario: raising the point that GLBSE is vulnerable to legal action,
nefario: but he himself is also vulnerable to
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.2601 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 8 @ 0.26 = 2.08 BTC [-]
nefario: III.2. Inheritance of assets.
nefario: Suspension of activity would likely include an account claiming procedure, similar to Bitcoinica’s.
nefario: which is bullshit
nefario: we actually have freequent backups of our server data
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1039 BTC [-]
nefario: bitcoinica had the account claiming proceedure because they lost their DB
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1039 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.26 = 1.82 BTC [-]
nefario: GLBSE can provide users with codes for assets
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.1039 = 0.3117 BTC [-]
nefario: and issuers with lists of what codes have how many
nefario: Are asset issuers unable to issue more of an asset on mpex?
smickles: only with manual approval, iirc
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0973 = 0.3892 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0972 = 0.1944 BTC [-]
nefario: also most of the assets on mpex are actually provided by mircea_popescu
nefario: where as most of the assets on GLBSE do not
nefario: I.2. Session stealing.
nefario: GLBSE Theoretically possible.
nefario: only if there are unprotected vulnerabilities
nefario: unless mircea_popescu knows what precautions we take to protect sessions he can only postulate
mircea_popescu: hi nefario. please put the observations as comments there so we have a trail.
mircea_popescu: if there's any innacuracies etc they can be fixed.
nefario: thread link
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/security-comparison-of-bitcoin-denominated-instruments-exchanges/
EmanuelDeOrtego: All I want is receipts verifiable by the issuer.
EmanuelDeOrtego: are*
nefario: what about the loss of GPG keys?
nefario: if a user loses their key how do you prove ownership of assets on mpex?
mircea_popescu: srsly better discussed there than here, irc records are iffy.
nefario: not asking for the record
nefario: looking for an answer
nefario: how do you handle lost users keys?
mircea_popescu: exactly same way btc handles it.
mircea_popescu: known as sol.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Too bad, so sad.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Take responsibility for yourself.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Don't depend on others.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Etc.
nefario: so no way for users to recover their funds if keys are lost
mircea_popescu: nope. lose your wallet, lose your btc
EmanuelDeOrtego: That's a feature if you think about it.
mircea_popescu: lose your gpg key, lose your assets.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Nobody can take your funds.
smickles: a user could protect against lost keys by cleasigning another key and keeping that key supersafe
nefario: could do
mircea_popescu: there *might* be recovery available, but it's not promised.
nefario: but users are more likely to lose keys than they are to lose access to something like their email
mircea_popescu: in other news http://polimedia.us/btcf/index.php
mircea_popescu: who wanted an invite ? /me reads up
EmanuelDeOrtego: Registered
EmanuelDeOrtego: Invite me, if you please.
mircea_popescu: i've activated both of you
mircea_popescu: it's pretty barebone so if any features needed etc, just say.
smickles: yourdomain.com?
EmanuelDeOrtego: I don't think users need to be babied if they are in a financial market where money can be lost very easily.
mircea_popescu: ahah smickles 1 sec
mircea_popescu: mm da fuck do i change that ?
nefario: in an unrelated note
nefario: someone looking to raise funding for a sex change
nefario: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=103020.0
EmanuelDeOrtego: L O L
EmanuelDeOrtego: You're definitely approving that security, I'm sure. ; )
nefario: there are currently no new securities being approved by GLBSE for the time being
mircea_popescu: if they're changing from m to f i'll buy a coupla shares
nefario: until after we've segregated the market into BLUE WHITE and PINK
Doffx: mircea_popescu, thats just wrong.
nefario: will also have to wait until Im back in London
mircea_popescu: Doffx y ?
nefario: was looking at office space as well
Doffx: It just is :)
nefario: going to be hiring 2 more people
mircea_popescu: hey, too many douches going about supposedly being male
Doffx: What type of Job will it be?
mircea_popescu: just cut the pecker off be done with it
Doffx: haha
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.097 BTC [-]
mod6: lol
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [-]
nefario: mircea_popescu: it's a little more delicate than that
EmanuelDeOrtego: popescu: I am with you on that.
nefario: lack of cock doesn't make you a woman
EmanuelDeOrtego: It makes you a Asian monk of some weird sect.
mircea_popescu: well i guess it must be.
nefario: Doffx: one business development, one marketing & design
mircea_popescu: ok, somebody post something.
usagi: a sex change.
EmanuelDeOrtego: I can't post
EmanuelDeOrtego: At least not from what I can see
mircea_popescu: srsly ?!
usagi: mircea for a new forum to work it would have to be created by a group of people.
mircea_popescu: lemme fix the permission
EmanuelDeOrtego: WE ARE A GROUP OF PEOPLE
usagi: No one person is going to make a new forum
usagi: That isn't what I mean
mircea_popescu: usagi well, the group of people was asking about it
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.25 = 1 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: mircea: It's for off-topic mainly
EmanuelDeOrtego: All else works
EmanuelDeOrtego: Nope
EmanuelDeOrtego: The Exchange doesn't work
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego try nao ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 8 @ 0.01 = 0.08 BTC
EmanuelDeOrtego: http://polimedia.us/btcf/viewforum.php?f=8 No new topic button there.
mircea_popescu: umm
mircea_popescu: didn't you just make a topic EmanuelDeOrtego ?
EmanuelDeOrtego: In off-topic
EmanuelDeOrtego: The other boards don't seem to work
EmanuelDeOrtego: http://polimedia.us/btcf/viewforum.php?f=8
mircea_popescu: o i think you need to make 3 posts first
mircea_popescu: lol
EmanuelDeOrtego: okay
EmanuelDeOrtego: how are you supposed to make 3 posta
EmanuelDeOrtego: when there are no threads
mircea_popescu: it's a conspiraci. anyway, did it werk ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.89021 = 3.5608 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.89011 = 5.3407 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.89 = 2.67 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.87 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 9 @ 0.863 = 7.767 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.862 = 5.172 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.861 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: nope
mircea_popescu: mhhh this is so opaque. lemme see!
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.1039 = 5.195 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: well it says users can start new topix wtf.
EmanuelDeOrtego: let me try again
EmanuelDeOrtego: You should really use SMF but this will work
mircea_popescu: y smf ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 1 @ 0.7999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 3 @ 0.9 = 2.7 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Because it's conformist
EmanuelDeOrtego: and familiar
EmanuelDeOrtego: and people like conformist and familiar
mircea_popescu: this looks a lot closer to the shitty look i go for.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 11 @ 0.1999 = 2.1989 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 18 @ 0.2 = 3.6 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Ahahaha
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 42 @ 0.17 = 7.14 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: I like how your pages don't even pass W3C validation ; )
mircea_popescu: on the forum even !?
EmanuelDeOrtego: I don't know about the forum
EmanuelDeOrtego: I'm talking about the exchange and such.
mircea_popescu: o
mircea_popescu: you never saw the old page did you
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 35 @ 0.1499998 = 5.25 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Buy moar GDSTP
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 10 @ 0.9 = 9 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego http://polimedia.us/btcf/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4 wtf you on about omg!
mircea_popescu: it works you have me on wild goose chases
EmanuelDeOrtego: Mining works
EmanuelDeOrtego: The Exchange does not
EmanuelDeOrtego: or whatever it is called
EmanuelDeOrtego: not The Exchange but
EmanuelDeOrtego: uhhhh
EmanuelDeOrtego: the securities board and exchanges board
EmanuelDeOrtego: http://polimedia.us/btcf/viewforum.php?f=8
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.09799 = 0.196 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Rename Exchanges discussion to Securities, Currencies and Speculation
mircea_popescu: nao ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00038318 = 5.2112 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Yes! Thank you!
mircea_popescu: phew.
mircea_popescu: o hey, boards are kinda fun.
EmanuelDeOrtego: They are. Let's see if I can get more people on it.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Who's OP here?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 140 @ 0.1039 = 14.546 BTC [-]
JWU_42: kakobrekla is the @
EmanuelDeOrtego: kakobrekla: Add the forum to the topic
mircea_popescu: why ?
EmanuelDeOrtego: So people always know about it.
EmanuelDeOrtego: It couldn't hurt.
kakobrekla: umm
kakobrekla: thats up to mp
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7216 @ 0.00089493 = 6.4578 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: yes or no mircea_popescu ?
EskimoBob: yawn ... any news?
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.3438 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: well sure...
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.097 = 0.485 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: I guess not... nobody is talking
EskimoBob: off I go....
boonies4u: any news about what?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62600 @ 0.000384 = 24.0384 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.69 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5100 @ 0.00091571 = 4.6701 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0985 = 0.985 BTC [+]
JWU_42: boonies4u: BTCST I assume
boonies4u: i'd check #btcst for that
boonies4u: unless he's b&
JWU_42: he is in there too
boonies4u: well then :P
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 0.2501 = 0.7503 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 102 @ 0.0034 = 0.3468 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 15 @ 0.104 = 1.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 41 @ 0.104 = 4.264 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 134 @ 0.10486 = 14.0512 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 99 @ 0.1049 = 10.3851 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4900 @ 0.00093793 = 4.5959 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7400 @ 0.00094233 = 6.9732 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 125 @ 0.105 = 13.125 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00038455 = 4.9222 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.3439 = 1.0317 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 13 @ 0.344 = 4.472 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 15 @ 0.3449 = 5.1735 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 69 @ 0.345 = 23.805 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.000384 = 0.1536 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00038318 = 2.9122 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4530 @ 0.00038225 = 1.7316 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00038225 = 0.4969 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11300 @ 0.00094233 = 10.6483 BTC [+]
smickles: lol @ oracularity 1503-3
mircea_popescu: whart's tht ?
Diablo-D3: ?
smickles: mircea_popescu: you don't know of the oracle?
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 join my forum!
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 12 @ 0.2 = 2.4 BTC [+]
smickles: mircea_popescu: http://cgi.cs.indiana.edu/~oracle/digest.cgi?N=1503#1503-03
smickles: .wik usenet oracle
markac: "The Internet Oracle (historically known as The Usenet Oracle) is an effort at collective humor in a pseudo-Socratic question-and-answer format." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_oracle
assbot: [GLBSE] [PIMP] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.BTCST.PPT] 20 @ 0.2 = 4 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: smickles: BAM
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 895 @ 0.00038225 = 0.3421 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.0985 = 2.0685 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0985 BTC [+]
agath: is it the usenet oracle still alive?
mircea_popescu: apparently.
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.105 = 5.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 10 @ 0.135 = 1.35 BTC [+]
smickles: http://cgi.cs.indiana.edu/~oracle/bestof.cgi?N=1451-1475#1470-08
smickles: er, the one below that one
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 7 @ 0.105 = 0.735 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00038262 = 0.6122 BTC [+]