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assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4127 @ 0.00095629 = 3.9466 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 20 @ 0.9 = 18 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 12 @ 0.08 = 0.96 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.0792 = 0.2376 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 52 @ 0.0762 = 3.9624 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 80 @ 0.0761 = 6.088 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 6 @ 0.076 = 0.456 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 63 @ 0.076 = 4.788 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 150 @ 0.0034 = 0.51 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 671 @ 0.00095629 = 0.6417 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3029 @ 0.00096344 = 2.9183 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 10 @ 0.0761 = 0.761 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.0599 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.92 = 1.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 10 @ 0.1 = 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 294 @ 0.0034 = 0.9996 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 10 @ 0.135 = 1.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 10 @ 0.0849 = 0.849 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21711 @ 0.00038455 = 8.349 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32389 @ 0.00038548 = 12.4853 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.9287 = 4.6435 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.9288 = 4.644 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 16 @ 0.09789 = 1.5662 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09789 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.105 = 0.945 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20431 @ 0.00038548 = 7.8757 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6757 @ 0.0003857 = 2.6062 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7212 @ 0.00038593 = 2.7833 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [UDN] 15 @ 0.1 = 1.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00038377 = 3.6458 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35321 @ 0.00038262 = 13.5145 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 62 @ 0.1049 = 6.5038 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 37 @ 0.1049 = 3.8813 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.1049 = 0.3147 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.1049 = 0.9441 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.9489 = 1.8978 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1049 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10700 @ 0.00096344 = 10.3088 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCASS_BOND_A] 10 @ 0.149 = 1.49 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 60 @ 0.9 = 54 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 10 @ 0.15189 = 1.5189 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 10 @ 0.135 = 1.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.9899 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 12 @ 0.9999999 = 12 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.467 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.948899 = 1.8978 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.948999 = 5.694 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 48 @ 0.949 = 45.552 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 24 @ 0.95 = 22.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.0976 = 0.1952 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2879 @ 0.00038262 = 1.1016 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15621 @ 0.0003824 = 5.9735 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22579 @ 0.0003824 = 8.6342 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8121 @ 0.00038225 = 3.1043 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00038267 = 2.2195 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00038593 = 1.3122 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 9 @ 0.0849 = 0.7641 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 19 @ 0.085 = 1.615 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 72 @ 0.09 = 6.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN] 9 @ 0.9999 = 8.9991 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 58 @ 0.09 = 5.22 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.105 = 0.945 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 10 @ 0.0974 = 0.974 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.10499 = 1.0499 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 10 @ 0.0974 = 0.974 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.467 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 10 @ 0.0976 = 0.976 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0985 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.9289 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.9289 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [M.ETF] 1 @ 0.1399 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: did i miss anything good ?
PsychoticBoy: nope, nothing happend
mircea_popescu: that's good then
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.85, Best ask: 10.878, Bid-ask spread: 0.02800, Last trade: 10.87081, 24 hour volume: 174403, 24 hour low: 10.54441, 24 hour high: 12.14999
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [+]
smickles: oh
smickles: there's a bid on s.dice for 0.00003000
mircea_popescu: that a bad thing ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 60 @ 0.094 = 5.64 BTC [+]
smickles: not really, afaik
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 2 @ 0.9989 = 1.9978 BTC [-]
smickles: in other news, smex is coming along nicely
mircea_popescu: :D
mircea_popescu: that name. ehehehe. every time i see it it makes me grin
smickles: well, i believe that a customer should be grinning after an interaction with their broker :)
mircea_popescu: o hey, moar ppl on forum
mircea_popescu: we should have a bet if it passes 100 users
smickles: nice, i'll check it out in a few minutes after i'm BAK
BTC-Mining: I bet 1 mircea_popescu that it will not. If it does, well I have to part with it by throwing it in the volcano.
mircea_popescu: throwing what, the btc ?
BTC-Mining: the 1 mircea_popescu that I bet
mircea_popescu: lmao!
BTC-Mining: So, gonna close it now? xD
mircea_popescu: looking at the wot there's something like i dunno, 500 ? 1k ? ppl that might qualify
mircea_popescu: ;;rated pirateat40
gribble: You have not yet rated user pirateat40
mircea_popescu: ;;getrating pirateat40
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask pirateat40!~pirateat4@unaffiliated/pirateat40 . User pirateat40, rated since Mon Aug 1 14:18:45 2011. Cumulative rating 247, from 78 total ratings. Received ratings: 78 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 65 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pirateat40
mircea_popescu: 0 negative eh ? i like this :D
BTC-Mining: how come?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00038593 = 3.126 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: He has admin rights to the otc or just moderation?
mircea_popescu: im saving that page.
mircea_popescu: what otc, the irc chan you mean ?
BTC-Mining: aye, I meant the rating system. Don't a few running this can remove ratings when someone abuse the otc ratings?
kakobrekla: no, but give -1, you prolly get on the imaginary end of line
BTC-Mining: I think only nanotube has access to that tho
BTC-Mining: I don't he admins it with other people?
BTC-Mining: I don't think*
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining im sure nobody can remove ratings outside of nanotube who is pretty regimented to not do it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2872 @ 0.00038226 = 1.0979 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39628 @ 0.00038225 = 15.1478 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: ;;rate pirateat40 -1 owes me money, not very talkative about anything, past his repayment delays.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user pirateat40 has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: shit
mircea_popescu: i was about to log in to pop his cherry
BTC-Mining: Well I guess he has 1 bad rating now
Gladamas: ;;rate pirateat40 -2 If you don't pay your debts, what do you get? A ruined OTC rating.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -2 for user pirateat40 has been recorded.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 3 @ 0.10000001 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 3 @ 0.1 = 0.3 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !ticker gsdpt
assbot: [GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.0033] [Ask: 0.0034] [Spread: 0.0001] [Last: 0.0034] [24hVol: 122.8599] [7dAvg: 0.00372331]
mircea_popescu: !ticker s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0034 / 0.0034 / 0.0034 (54805 shares, 186.34 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00322854 / 0.0034 (2349905 shares, 7,586.78 BTC)
BTC-Mining: ;;getrating pirateat40
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask pirateat40!~pirateat4@unaffiliated/pirateat40 . User pirateat40, rated since Mon Aug 1 14:18:45 2011. Cumulative rating 244, from 80 total ratings. Received ratings: 78 positive, 2 negative. Sent ratings: 65 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pirateat40
BTC-Mining: No one ever sent him negative ratings yet?
boonies4u: he got a 2nd negative rating?
boonies4u: Received ratings: 78 positive, 2 negative
BTC-Mining: They're reversible when case is resolved...
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.09849 = 0.2955 BTC [-]
smickles: ;;gettrust jcpham pirateat40
gribble: Trust relationship from user jcpham to user pirateat40: Level 1: 8, Level 2: 33 via 13 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=jcpham&dest=pirateat40
boonies4u: BTC-Mining: of course :P
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 4 @ 0.01 = 0.04 BTC
boonies4u: ;;gettrust pirateat40
gribble: Trust relationship from user boonies4u to user pirateat40: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 3 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=boonies4u&dest=pirateat40
BTC-Mining: The otc rating is made to put temporary ratings during disagreement
jcpham0: Yes, i am here
BTC-Mining: to encourage people not dealing with the person until disagreements are solved
BTC-Mining: Why haven't people put negative rating while this gets solved?
BTC-Mining: Well I'll be damned
jcpham0: Is my graph suspect?
smickles: jcpham0: i was just curious what rating you currently have on pirate
jcpham0: It may change soon
mircea_popescu: plenty of people doing 10s and shit.
mircea_popescu: kinda silly in retrospect.
smickles: ;;rate pirateat40 -1 there's a whole kerfuffle to be settled before i'd trade with him
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user pirateat40 has been recorded.
jcpham0: I'm not a 10er
mircea_popescu: didn't mean you specifically.
jcpham0: Gigavps has a joke 10 but i really trudt giga
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41888 @ 0.00038593 = 16.1658 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2912 @ 0.00038631 = 1.1249 BTC [+]
smickles: what's the date that the nano-involved bet settles?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [M.ETF] 1 @ 0.1399 BTC [-]
jcpham0: Maybe september 9th
jcpham0: Idk tbh all of that is external to me
jcpham0: I don't consider it to a contract i agreed upon
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.09849 = 1.1819 BTC [-]
smickles: jcpham0: a sensible position
mircea_popescu: omg phpbb doesn;t fuck up gpg code
mircea_popescu: this is incredible.
Chaaang-Noi: im at 0 on otc :)
mircea_popescu: ;;getrating Chaaang-Noi
gribble: This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
mircea_popescu: omg scammeur
smickles: mircea_popescu: it does if there is bb code inside of the signed part
Chaaang-Noi: i know im a scammer
mircea_popescu: i guess it would then huh.
smickles: mircea_popescu: but it only effs up the display, you could hit the quote button and get the actual text
mircea_popescu: aww so my nice security writeup got no comments
mircea_popescu: what is wrong wit hpeople!
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.09849 = 0.394 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28355 @ 0.00038344 = 10.8724 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36154 @ 0.00038477 = 13.911 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16015 @ 0.00038477 = 6.1621 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.09849 = 0.5909 BTC [-]
BTCHero: mircea_popescu: I was going to comment on that thread with questions and didn't want to muddy the thread
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 9000 @ 0.01 = 90 BTC
mircea_popescu: BTCHero why not ? muddy it man
smickles: that's a lot of explaining you've done there
mircea_popescu: that's what the internet is for, muddy away
BTCHero: I will muddy it up later for you :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10185 @ 0.00038477 = 3.9189 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6 @ 0.00038631 = 0.0023 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: 6 lol
mircea_popescu: is it me or glbse loads a lot faster nao ?
mircea_popescu: Total posts 42 • Total topics 11 • Total members 9
mircea_popescu: i wouldsay that is the meaning of life.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21845 @ 0.0003835 = 8.3776 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1092 @ 0.00038225 = 0.4174 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49473 @ 0.000382 = 18.8987 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 4 @ 0.16 = 0.64 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: bitfoo done.
bitfoo: thanks!
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.2701 BTC [-]
blazing: when will pirates passthroughs be officially written off
boonies4u: what do you mean?
mircea_popescu: i think most people have by now, for their own books.
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 500 @ 0.01 = 5 BTC
boonies4u: I wouldn't be surprised if Pirate bought some debt from passthroughs under the table
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.5-10.MININGBOND] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.5-10.MININGBOND] 60 @ 0.6 = 36 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.5-10.MININGBOND] 60 @ 0.65 = 39 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.5-10.MININGBOND] 5 @ 0.65 = 3.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 258 @ 0.0034 = 0.8772 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.5-10.MININGBOND] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 9000 @ 0.0010088 = 9.0792 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1558 @ 0.00038663 = 0.6024 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 12 @ 0.9999999 = 12 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: boonies4u i suspect most of glbse pirate debt was bought by the issuers.
boonies4u: the PPT issuers?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.104999 = 0.315 BTC [-]
boonies4u: completely plausible
mircea_popescu: i'm just going by volume.
Chaaang-Noi: lol
Chaaang-Noi: i kinda doubt that
mircea_popescu: why ?
Chaaang-Noi: well cuz i did not buy most of my bonds and im the largest
Chaaang-Noi: iv bought and sold but im about even
mircea_popescu: you issued ppt ?
mircea_popescu: we're talking of the insured thing.
Chaaang-Noi: i hold the largest assets by volume on glbse
Chaaang-Noi: oh sorry
mircea_popescu: i suspect the insurance proportion = the part not self bought.
mircea_popescu: so, they insured in the end what, 32 cents to the dollar ?
Chaaang-Noi: yes i bought back my insured bond
mircea_popescu: my guess is they sold about 32 btc out of 100 "sold".
Chaaang-Noi: i had one at 1btc face 100% insured
Chaaang-Noi: i have about 75% bought back
Chaaang-Noi: and i have a bid wall to absorb them all
Chaaang-Noi: sorry about the mistake, i need to read more next time.
Chaaang-Noi: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 12 @ 1 = 12 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: thats my isured bond
mircea_popescu: no big deal either way eh ?
Gladamas: Chaang-Noi I was half-kidding about the 0.9999999 technicality violation
Gladamas: its no big deal
Chaaang-Noi: i have to respond to all attacks on my business threads. i responded sarcasticly and was not really going to take downthat wall.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITNODES] 2 @ 0.25 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: mircea i will buy back all my insured bonds no matter what happens with pirate
Gladamas: Chaaang-Noi: I'm sorry, I didn't mean it as an attack
Chaaang-Noi: yeah but you said i was not following the contract. thus i had to respond
Chaaang-Noi: i was not too worried and its not a big deal, but i had to respond.
Gladamas: yes, i see
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 85 @ 0.00025 = 0.0213 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 2 @ 0.06 = 0.12 BTC [+]
bitfoo: what happened, goat was trying to skimp on 10 satoshis? ;)
bitfoo: goat's gotta goat
Gladamas: bitfoo: I called him out on not following the contract (buying at 0.9999999 vs. 1.0 BTC) so ya
Gladamas: i was half-joking
bitfoo: oh, for the insured pirate thing
BTC-Mining: In the future, each of those satoshi will be worth a fortune! : o
BTC-Mining: or not =/
boonies4u: you can do a lot more with a satoshi than you can with the smallest division of USD
Chaaang-Noi: it would have been like 300 satoshis
Chaaang-Noi: 300 bonds outstanding
boonies4u: Can you even value bonds at the satoshi level on GLBSE?
bitfoo: 3000 satoshis then
Chaaang-Noi: ahh yeah 3000
bitfoo: because it's 0.9999999
bitfoo: could have had an extra 9 :P
boonies4u: .00003 BTC
Chaaang-Noi: almost got a scammers tag for that!
Chaaang-Noi: :)
bitfoo: lol
bitfoo: well, contract is a contract
BTC-Mining: Boonies4u, I think the minimum valuation is at 7 decimals or 10 satoshi
boonies4u: damn
bitfoo: oh, no 8 decimals on GLBSE?
Chaaang-Noi: yeah but as i pointed out im offering to buy back at 1 btc, they just have to send it to my account and email me a btc address...
BTC-Mining: I'm mistaken, looks like it does go to 8 decimals
bitfoo: ok ok, I'm not really serious either
Chaaang-Noi: im not really breakig the contract
bitfoo: just poking fun
Chaaang-Noi: yeah its a bit silly
Chaaang-Noi: just in a bad m00d due to pirate stuff
bitfoo: understandable
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: ah fuck,anyone know what the last difficulty was?
bitfoo: the previous one?
Chaaang-Noi: yeah
bitfoo: 2.2 mil or so
Chaaang-Noi: know where i can find a closer est?
bitfoo: but I'm not a miner
Gladamas: ;;bc,diff
gribble: 2440642.606916
Gladamas: ^^^
bitfoo: that's the current one
Gladamas: ah
Chaaang-Noi: i forgot to pay out my mining bond
mircea_popescu: smickles http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=S.BVPS grep "dividends" :p
bitfoo: I can look it up in my mysql db
Chaaang-Noi: stupid travel and pirates :)
Chaaang-Noi: if its not too much trouble that would be awesome
mircea_popescu: bitfoo i never understood wy they price things at 1btc on glbse either.
mircea_popescu: i have the old one sec
Chaaang-Noi: for a ppt 1 is a better number than say Pi....
BTC-Mining: I price my issues in bitcent
BTC-Mining: except BTC-Mining
mircea_popescu: 2190865.97010286
Chaaang-Noi: my mining bond was .3 at first
bitfoo: thanks mircea
Chaaang-Noi: yes thanks
Chaaang-Noi: 2.2 was close
mircea_popescu: i have the entire list if you want it.
Chaaang-Noi: no thanks
bitfoo: digging around this mysql db is a pain
Chaaang-Noi: i just need to pay a bond
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining bitcents or something seems reasonable.
mircea_popescu: anything in the 10^-2 to 10^-5 or so range
bitfoo: yeah, BTC-Mining, I like how KRAKEN is split up
BTC-Mining: I priced my loan bond and Kraken fund passthrough at 1 bitcent for easy reinvestment in full.
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: I priced BTC-Mining in larger shares of 1 BTC each
mircea_popescu: ya. people don't understand this buyt suppose i have 100 btc to invest
mircea_popescu: and must invest it 63% into something and 37% into something else.
mircea_popescu: and now those things are priced in 3 btc increments and im wtf'd.
BTC-Mining: Eh
bitfoo: yeah, SS needs a stock-split desperately. (hint hint smickles)
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 20 @ 0.095 = 1.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 45 @ 0.0959 = 4.3155 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 14 @ 0.096 = 1.344 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 45 @ 0.096 = 4.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 2 @ 0.9 = 1.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 3 @ 0.9 = 2.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2800 @ 0.0034 = 9.52 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JLP-BMD] 5 @ 0.075 = 0.375 BTC [-]
usagi: !pl S.DICE 0.0034
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: GLBSE 404
mircea_popescu: usagi ticker works.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+]
usagi: [15:20:49] <Chaaang-Noi> i forgot to pay out my mining bond <--- scammer tag pls
Chaaang-Noi: i know, im going to have like 50 of them
Chaaang-Noi: i was to pay bonds like 15 hours ago and forgot
Chaaang-Noi: no one calledme on it lol
bitfoo: stockholm syndrome
bitfoo: it's the new word everyone learnt on the forums
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9733 @ 0.00038523 = 3.7494 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11467 @ 0.00038519 = 4.417 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: stockholm syndrome? how does this relate to the bonds?
Chaaang-Noi: i think everyone is just too busy watching pirate and buying more popedcorn
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 18 @ 0.00989 = 0.178 BTC [-]
boonies4u: Chaaang-Noi: I should long popcorn
Chaaang-Noi: :)
boonies4u: it is technically a type of corn
boonies4u: i'm sure there's a commodity ticker for it
boonies4u: XD
boonies4u: http://www.commoditymarketing.com/project/popcorn/
boonies4u: Oh Yeah
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.098489 = 1.9698 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: i see i sold my asicminer too soon and for too little
Chaaang-Noi: stupid pirate:)
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.09848999 = 0.2955 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 97 @ 0.09849 = 9.5535 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <bitfoo> it's the new word everyone learnt on the forums << when this ?!
Chaaang-Noi: yeah i dont get that either
mircea_popescu: (im only asking cause i used it yest and im curious if wtf, when did it start)
Chaaang-Noi: oh i have never even seen it
mircea_popescu: the scammer tag ?
Chaaang-Noi: im lost lol
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 5 @ 0.00012189 = 0.0006 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 5 @ 0.00012189 = 0.0006 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 3 @ 0.00012189 = 0.0004 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.09849 = 1.9698 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 6 @ 0.9999999 = 6 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4500 @ 0.0009489 = 4.2701 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1700 @ 0.00095091 = 1.6165 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 187 @ 0.00348634 = 0.6519 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 200 @ 0.00352303 = 0.7046 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 250 @ 0.00354969 = 0.8874 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 550 @ 0.00355355 = 1.9545 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 13 @ 0.00375844 = 0.0489 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00038591 = 6.6762 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29776 @ 0.00038663 = 11.5123 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10609 @ 0.00038677 = 4.1032 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 50 @ 0.15189 = 7.5945 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "I'm not gay but my gf is"
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 2 @ 0.46 = 0.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 8 @ 0.4501 = 3.6008 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 20 @ 0.45 = 9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.09849 = 4.9245 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.ABMO] 15 @ 0.075 = 1.125 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.09849 = 9.849 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2600 @ 0.00095091 = 2.4724 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 10 @ 1.05 = 10.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 7 @ 1 = 7 BTC [+]
nefario: so
nefario: hitler
nefario: he was bad
nefario: funny thing though
nefario: he only became a problem when he started killing OTHER countries people
nefario: stupid man
nefario: Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot all had in common that they killed their own people
nefario: and we seem to be fine with that.
mircea_popescu: that's a pretty good point.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 14100 @ 0.00095091 = 13.4078 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4300 @ 0.00095932 = 4.1251 BTC [+]
nefario: qalso
nefario: hitler never played risk when he was a kid
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 89 @ 0.06 = 5.34 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 50 @ 0.06768999 = 3.3845 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 30 @ 0.06899999 = 2.07 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.1349 = 0.2698 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 13 @ 0.09739999 = 1.2662 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 6 @ 0.92745 = 5.5647 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13430 @ 0.00038585 = 5.182 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17921 @ 0.00038677 = 6.9313 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.92755 = 3.7102 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.92745 = 1.8549 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.92745 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3395 @ 0.00094342 = 3.2029 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 10 @ 0.09739999 = 0.974 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 100 @ 0.00025 = 0.025 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.105 = 5.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 50 @ 0.171 = 8.55 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: oh lol someone wants to send me back the one shae and get the 1 btc and not take the wal at .9999999
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 700 @ 0.00094342 = 0.6604 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 554 @ 0.00038677 = 0.2143 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.0003868 = 3.752 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00038681 = 1.2378 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1740 @ 0.00038731 = 0.6739 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28569 @ 0.00038772 = 11.0768 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21270 @ 0.00038519 = 8.193 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25631 @ 0.00038772 = 9.9377 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15369 @ 0.0003878 = 5.9601 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 15 @ 1.03 = 15.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15895 @ 0.00095089 = 15.1144 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 3 @ 0.9 = 2.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITNODES] 2 @ 0.2539 = 0.5078 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 108 @ 0.09849 = 10.6369 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 67 @ 0.0985 = 6.5995 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 75 @ 0.0986 = 7.395 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 5 @ 0.09739999 = 0.487 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.8655 = 1.731 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3300 @ 0.00095089 = 3.1379 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.86531 = 3.4612 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 3 @ 0.5001 = 1.5003 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0986 = 1.479 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.86532 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.86521 = 1.7304 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13663 @ 0.00038519 = 5.2629 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10490 @ 0.00038437 = 4.032 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24117 @ 0.00038362 = 9.2518 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.86521 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.861 = 4.305 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.69 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.86 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.944899 = 1.8898 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.852 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.851 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.151 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.15000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SYNERGY] 10 @ 0.15 = 1.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0986 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.0986 = 2.958 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 70 @ 0.0987 = 6.909 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4957 @ 0.00094342 = 4.6765 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2655 @ 0.0009354 = 2.4835 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8071 @ 0.00038439 = 3.1024 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27653 @ 0.0003868 = 10.6962 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.9099 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00038714 = 6.0394 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS] 1 @ 1.1499 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.5-10.MININGBOND] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 20 @ 0.95000001 = 19 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 54 @ 0.95 = 51.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.2701 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 30 @ 0.00999999 = 0.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 3 @ 0.00999999 = 0.03 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 200 @ 0.0987 = 19.74 BTC [+]
Luceo: ;;rate w|zzy 1 Bought a number of raffle tickets from me.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user w|zzy has been recorded.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0987 = 0.1974 BTC [+]
coingenuity: Luceo: no rating for coin? :(
Luceo: coingenuity: Didn't I? :o
Luceo: ;;rated coingenuity
gribble: You have not yet rated user coingenuity
Luceo: I sometimes forget when people buy on the forum :P
Luceo: I dont yet know everyone's forum name to IRC name
coingenuity: heh, i'm not a customer, just a fixture of sorts lmfao
coingenuity: i am not really a forum user tbh
coingenuity: not my cuppa tea
Luceo: I hope to be buying from you soon ;)
coingenuity: =D
coingenuity: makes me happy, i think a lot of people are sort of paused to see what pirate's effect is
coingenuity: low gox volume + giant spreads == interesting to watch
Luceo: coingenuity: I'm enjoying the Gox market atm
Luceo: Im going to MLG in November so I'll probably get you to deliver to one of my colleagues and get them to bring it to my hotel :P
coingenuity: heh
Luceo: Customs here might just disappear with it :/
coingenuity: i'm enjoying the gox market for my bots.... as a whole though, people are holding their breath and it's a little eerie to watch
coingenuity: and, customs is usually no problem ;)
Luceo: I need a Gox bot
coingenuity: + full insurance protects ya from their idiocy lol
Luceo: idk how much tax I have to pay on it either
Luceo: Might make it really expensive
coingenuity: england is VAT exempt for PM if memory serves
Luceo: I'm not in England :(
Luceo: I have servers there
coingenuity: where are you at, if you dont mind my asking?
Luceo: Usually Germany or Switzerland
assbot: [GLBSE] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
coingenuity: germany is VAT exempt on PM, so is CH
Luceo: Nice
Luceo: Might send it there then
coingenuity: ya, better than UK imo
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.2701 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 14 @ 0.27 = 3.78 BTC [-]
Luceo: Still think in-US shipping is an attractive option, but idk how it'd be to get through the airport
Luceo: 'Oh btw there's $10k worth of gold in my bag'
Luceo: -_-
coingenuity: lol
coingenuity: most countries are OK with amounts around 1kg for on person carry in planes
coingenuity: OK, time to run, bbiaw Luceo
Luceo: Ciao
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 6 @ 0.151 = 0.906 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5800 @ 0.00093907 = 5.4466 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3845 @ 0.0009354 = 3.5966 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2077 @ 0.00093152 = 1.9348 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 150 @ 0.0987 = 14.805 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.9445 = 1.889 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41276 @ 0.0003878 = 16.0068 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9434 @ 0.00038799 = 3.6603 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.9446 = 5.6676 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 5 @ 0.5 = 2.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 7 @ 0.36101 = 2.5271 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 5 @ 0.36101 = 1.8051 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.0034 = 0.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1948 @ 0.00094838 = 1.8474 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.467 = 2.802 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINTORRENTZ] 1 @ 0.666 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 3 @ 0.9099 = 2.7297 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.91 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.98 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: how do i chang emy name, i forgot lol
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 5 @ 0.109879 = 0.5494 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.1348 BTC [-]
EB250: Chaaang-Noi: try /nick new_name
Chaang-Noi: thanks
EB250: Chaaang-Noi: you had any luck contacting pirate?
Chaang-Noi: no, i have not really tried
EB250: no information at all :(
Chaang-Noi: no
EB250: try contact him?
Chaang-Noi: why?
Chaang-Noi: and ask what?
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0987 = 0.1974 BTC [+]
EB250: get the btc back :) I have some tygr bonds
Chaang-Noi: umm, i think he knows i want the btc...
EB250: ask "Where's My Money"
Chaang-Noi: i asked for btc on the 15th
Chaang-Noi: he said "in his system"
Chaang-Noi: iv asked already...
EB250: OK
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 58 @ 0.0988 = 5.7304 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0988 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
rg: thoz
rg: r
rg: mi
rg: popsiklz
Diablo-D3: are you drunk
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8923 @ 0.00093152 = 8.312 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 90 @ 0.0988 = 8.892 BTC [+]
rg: diablo-d3
rg: the noid is some type of
rg: pizza demon
Diablo-D3: tes
Diablo-D3: yes
assbot: [GLBSE] [DI.BFLSC.SUCCEED] 3 @ 0.001 = 0.003 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4288 @ 0.00038714 = 1.6601 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12595 @ 0.00038799 = 4.8867 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14105 @ 0.00038823 = 5.476 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.2701 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 6 @ 0.27 = 1.62 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.067 = 0.134 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.066 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.065 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 29 @ 0.045 = 1.305 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5200 @ 0.00092575 = 4.8139 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 1 @ 0.92307691 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.000388 = 0.0776 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13009 @ 0.00038823 = 5.0505 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25391 @ 0.00038844 = 9.8629 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2500 @ 0.0034 = 8.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.0988 = 2.6676 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.09888 = 1.9776 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3977 @ 0.00092983 = 3.6979 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.00989 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00038799 = 0.0776 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1326 @ 0.00038714 = 0.5133 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00038507 = 0.5776 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 3 @ 0.999 = 2.997 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19083 @ 0.00038362 = 7.3206 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14866 @ 0.00038344 = 5.7002 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1000 @ 0.00093463 = 0.9346 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00038403 = 9.8312 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DI.BFLSC.FAIL] 400 @ 0.001 = 0.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK] 1 @ 0.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.2691 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 12 @ 0.269 = 3.228 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09300001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.093 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.093 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 10 @ 0.092 = 0.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 9 @ 0.0913 = 0.8217 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 43 @ 0.0912 = 3.9216 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 17 @ 0.0911 = 1.5487 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 9 @ 0.091 = 0.819 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 56 @ 0.09 = 5.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 43 @ 0.09 = 3.87 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 6 @ 0.3 = 1.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 27 @ 0.00021 = 0.0057 BTC [-]
EB250: what is this netxshare problem?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00038344 = 6.2117 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: hm
kakobrekla: what did i just do
kakobrekla: mornin
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: oh lol BDT drama again
kakobrekla: dont worry people, ill have a fix for that too.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15774 @ 0.00038403 = 6.0577 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.269 = 1.345 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 100 @ 0.06899998 = 6.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00038844 = 2.2918 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 70 @ 0.06899999 = 4.83 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.ABMO] 7 @ 0.07999999 = 0.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 7 @ 0.069 = 0.483 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla summary ?
kakobrekla: summary : the owner/developer/whatever is a jackass
rdponticelli: Read bitscalper, repeat....
mircea_popescu: for a moment i had thought we were discussing bdk
rdponticelli: lol
mircea_popescu: this is the jro thing, the guy who mysteriously has money to do real estate developing, in partnership with the kenna of tradehill
mircea_popescu: who also mysteriously has money yet it's not clear his users were repaid
mircea_popescu: that about it ?
rdponticelli: The same
rdponticelli: And his partnership with some shady guy called Alberto...
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.102 = 0.204 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: somebody should write Bitcoin : A musical!
mircea_popescu: it's always the same play, just change the names and stock characters,
mircea_popescu: sorta like opera buffa.
rdponticelli: Who apparently made the bitscalper fuckup, then kronos, and now is repeating with BDT
rdponticelli: Sometimes the names are also the same :)
rdponticelli: It's like an infinite sequel
assbot: [GLBSE] [UDN] 1 @ 0.0999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [UDN] 1 @ 0.0999 BTC [-]
nefario: mircea_popescu: can mpex users transfer assets/ btc to each other?
mircea_popescu: yes, if you remember you took out the fee on glbse because i was offering it for free and you had to compete.
nefario: no
mircea_popescu: or else you'd have lost the gigavps listing.
mircea_popescu: o, yes.
nefario: GLBSE has a fee
mircea_popescu: yea, for the little people it does.
nefario: for transfering assets
mircea_popescu: it's just that i don't care about them, so.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.102 = 3.264 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 71 @ 0.10899 = 7.7383 BTC [+]
nefario: mircea_popescu: gigavps paid fees
nefario: like everyone else
rdponticelli: btw. nefario: the fee applies always? or the assets issuers can receive their own assets without a fee?
mircea_popescu: if you say so.
nefario: rdponticelli: the sender pays the fee
nefario: only if the asset has traded more than 20BTC
rdponticelli: It doesn't matters if he is the issuer
nefario: and it's only 0.2%
nefario: no it doesn't
rdponticelli: Ok
nefario: BTC has no transfer fees
nefario: never had
rdponticelli: Yea, I know
nefario: if you're an asset issuer
rdponticelli: Otherwise, people would use free address transfers...
nefario: there are no fees to transfer between your personal account and the issuer account
rdponticelli: Ah, ok
nefario: And
nefario: issuers can have transfer fees removed
nefario: ...
nefario: for a fee
mircea_popescu: which can be waived ?
rdponticelli: How's that?
nefario: they pay us to remove the transfer fee
rdponticelli: The Inaba negotiations?
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 10 @ 0.069 = 0.69 BTC [+]
nefario: it's usually more upfront
nefario: but less overall
rdponticelli: It would only make sense for a really large volume, right?
nefario: especially if you do a lot of presales
nefario: yes
rdponticelli: I'm trying to adjust my bussiness plan...
rdponticelli: And the fee is going to kill me
rdponticelli: I'm taking profits in my shitty fiat
rdponticelli: And have to pay in btc
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 437 @ 0.01 = 4.37 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 363 @ 0.01 = 3.63 BTC [+]
rdponticelli: It won't be sustainable...
mircea_popescu: what business is this ?
nefario: later
rdponticelli: I take local fiat, and exchange it for a simbol on glbse
nefario: rdponticelli: I'm trying to IM you
nefario: you getting that?
mircea_popescu: o ?! interesting.
rdponticelli: So people can trade it freely for btc
rdponticelli: Yea...
mircea_popescu: so sort of like a fiat broker ? why aren't you on mpex lol.
nefario: because its shit
mircea_popescu: dun hate nefario.
nefario: power to truth
mircea_popescu: i don't see your answer to the security discussion yet.
mircea_popescu: you steal leaking userinfo to good old google ?
nefario: what about the legal risks of hosting copyrighted materials on the same server as mpex?
nefario: didn't mention that
nefario: your "security" piece is a load of bullshit
mircea_popescu: o i c. no power to truth, just power to "we lie and pretend and hoppe nobody notices" ?
mircea_popescu: what are you, a forum banker ?
nefario: (8:59:50 PM) mircea_popescu:> "we lie and pretend and hoppe nobody notices" ?
nefario: seems to be your mo
nefario: although
nefario: plenty of people been calling you on it
nefario: you justset your record on repeat
mircea_popescu: o right, right. i see, kindergarten defense.
mircea_popescu: how many of the so called assets on that so called exchange of yours have burned investors ?
mircea_popescu: do you even keep a count anymore ?
nefario: you've not counted the successes
nefario: also
nefario: it's a free market
mircea_popescu: o i c, it's a free market. more power to you.
nefario: people are responsible for what they do with their own money
mircea_popescu: now go fix your various issues before someone defaces you.
mircea_popescu: and i expect serious answers because this "o it's shit" doesn't work.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PIMP] 1 @ 0.153 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: you can't win a words argument with me. you will have to build a better product.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.104 = 0.208 BTC [-]
nefario: well you're making some pretty serious claims
nefario: on that page
nefario: unless youre privy to information Im not
nefario: on GLBSE accounts getting hacked
nefario: so
nefario: suck it
nefario: and
mircea_popescu: so go correct it.
nefario: gnight
mircea_popescu: whenever, when you wake up.
Luceo: What page?
assbot: [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 1 @ 0.0801 BTC [-]
nefario: mircea_popescu: make up some security vulnerabilites and compromises about GLBSE
nefario: posted it on his porn site
nefario: says "it's legit"
nefario: and
mircea_popescu: Luceo http://trilema.com/2012/security-comparison-of-bitcoin-denominated-instruments-exchanges/
nefario: "prove me wrong"
mircea_popescu: nefario learn to quote srsly.
nefario: mircea_popescu: learn to paraphrase
nefario: he's making claims with no evidence
mircea_popescu: no see, it's bad to paraphrase when you're part to a dispute.
nefario: and convieniently ignoring the shit on his own doorstep
mircea_popescu: what shit is that dood ? "copyrighted material" ?
mircea_popescu: i've had about half dozen fraudulent or otherwise baseless dmca notices in the past 5 years
mircea_popescu: i disputed all of them
nefario: that goes in the legal risks
mircea_popescu: other party never responded to the dispute filing.
nefario: also
mircea_popescu: dun dun dun.
nefario: I live in manchester
nefario: UK
mircea_popescu: im eagerly awaiting on the next half dozen batch.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 6 @ 0.90999 = 5.4599 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: o, you're in the uk ? so say so (there!) so people know better. why is this so hard ?
nefario: I pointed several out yesterday
nefario: your retort was: then post it on my site"
nefario: I'm in China
nefario: on holiday
nefario: ending soon
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 9 @ 0.1348 = 1.2132 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 26 @ 0.1349 = 3.5074 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 146 @ 0.135 = 19.71 BTC [+]
nefario: I've been living in the UK for nearly a year
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 10 @ 0.135 = 1.35 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ok.
nefario: not a secret
mircea_popescu: weren't you saying you work there at some point ?
nefario: work where?
mircea_popescu: in china.
mircea_popescu: weren't you teaching or w/e ?
nefario: ja
nefario: a year ago
rdponticelli: [09:57:10] <mircea_popescu> so sort of like a fiat broker ? why aren't you on mpex lol. << Yea, I help funnelling Argentine fiat Into btc. I thought about doing it in mpex and I even asked you if there was a fee back then... but people here would never wrap their heads around how mpex works....
Luceo: nefario: Make a rebuttal then if its FUD
nefario: and WTF does this mean?
nefario: Either the exchange itself, the public face or both may be identified at a later date as Does in the Cartmell - Bitcoinica lawsuit.
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli well actually people here do, some of them. smickles is making some decent moves as a broker.
rdponticelli: Maybe when they are some brokers sites...
mircea_popescu: the advantage'd be you'd actually have something to sell.
Luceo: A response pointing out all of the inaccuracies
mircea_popescu: nefario that means you might be identified as one of the does 1-60
mircea_popescu: as in, you are associated with the sued group, you worked for intersango, this is a risk.
nefario: not possible
mircea_popescu: orly. as you know ?
nefario: ja
mircea_popescu: tell you something from the future : if you or glbse are listed there
mircea_popescu: you will probabluy suspend all btc withdrawals
mircea_popescu: because a judge might ulteriorly ruled they were fraudulent and you will be responsible.
mircea_popescu: so just on the strength of that alone your position is VERY dubious legally.
nefario: this is unfounded
mircea_popescu: and being in china;'d at least offer some legal proofness.
nefario: you've got no basis for any of these accusations
nefario: none at all
mircea_popescu: ...
nefario: next point:
nefario: >Holds personally indentifying information of users without a license (an offense in the EU).
mircea_popescu: were you ore were you not associated with the defendants ?
mircea_popescu: no, we're not moving on ywt.
nefario: you clearly have no understanding of the data protection act
nefario: you don't need a licence
mircea_popescu: we;re still on the cartmell suit.
nefario: Im not involved in the cartmell suit
mircea_popescu: not what i said.
mircea_popescu: were you ore were you not associated with the defendants ?
nefario: I said I'm not involved
mircea_popescu: i don't care what you say. answer the fucken question already
mircea_popescu: buncha weaseling. "i'm not involved"
nefario: fuck off
nefario: gobshite
mircea_popescu: point is in two months you COULD BE
mircea_popescu: at which point glbse ends.
nefario: no
nefario: I couldn't
mircea_popescu: "sorry uzers lawl"
mircea_popescu: you couldn't ?
mircea_popescu: why not ?
mircea_popescu: do you have a waiver or something ?
nefario: you have a reason for me to be?
mircea_popescu: YOU ARE A BUSINESS ASSOCIATE OF THE DEFENDANTS
mircea_popescu: the suit names 60 does.
nefario: so
mircea_popescu: jesus god.
nefario: 60 does
mircea_popescu: you're irresponsible ffs.
nefario: not my name
mircea_popescu: yet.
nefario: at all
mircea_popescu: you don't know the future in this respect, i'm affraid.
mircea_popescu: it'd be a lot better to come clean o n the matter and offer something definite to the glbse users.
nefario: of don't be so full of shit
mircea_popescu: as it stands right now, at any point in the future you're named and that's that.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm going to eat. ttyl.
nefario: yeah
nefario: fuck off
nefario: dickhead
nefario: spreading FUD like that
nefario: Luceo: I've better things to do than spend my time making rebuttals to every piece of shit that rolls out of that guy mouth.
Luceo: nefario: Fair enough. I think some of these points are non-points (it's not the duty of the exchange to regulate whether the stocks are fraudulent or become so)
nefario: sure
Luceo: Dictionary attack, again, is user issue.
nefario: actually
nefario: no GLBSE user account has been compromised using this methoed
Luceo: Also, for some reason your Google authentication doesn't work with Blackberry, I always get told my token is invalid. :/
nefario: because the users password password was re-used and compromised
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
nefario: yes
nefario: but we can't protect people against themselves
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 1 @ 0.3612 BTC [+]
Luceo: ofc
nefario: we've also provided 2fa
nefario: which would prevent even this
nefario: it's entirely FUD
nefario: like
Luceo: I'd like to turn that on but the BB client doesnt seem to work
usagi: Some of what Mircea said isn't logical, and is biased.
Luceo: It works for lastpass :(
nefario: as though SSL was vulnerable or something
usagi: I told him this but he just told me to post a comment...
nefario: usagi: some?
rg: damn mircea
usagi: About half
rg: what is hte point of this comparison
rg: its not even correct
nefario: it's about slinging baseless shit at GLBSE
rg: its basically a summary of 3 weeks of -assets
rg: nothing more
usagi: Some of it is true, it's true that MPEX requires you to use gpg and encrypt everything. But that does not make mpex secure
nefario: and attemptig to spread FUD about our security and legal status
usagi: it makes it difficult to use
rg: well, regarding legality
rg: you're both operating unregistered stock exchanges
rg: so
rg: lets just call a spade a spade
usagi: Legality is another point, what he said is just plain wrong
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.8401 = 3.3604 BTC [-]
nefario: rg
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.84 = 3.36 BTC [-]
nefario: actually GLBSE is registering next month
nefario: in the UK
rg: doesnt change the fact that right now
rg: its unregistered
rg: and so is his
Luceo: I think the main issue he does get right here is under 'Server rooted'
nefario: brb
rg: you dont start serving liquor then get the license
rg: :P
Luceo: MPEX doesn't have any wallet running, that is a plus security-wise
usagi: it's illegal to chew gum in singapore for example. who cares? Will nefario be arrested in singapore for the crime of chewing gum in the UK?
Luceo: Though I'm sure GLBSE has sensible hot wallet limits
rg: so you're admitting he is guilty of chewing gum
rg: very interesting.
usagi: Yeah but "so"?
usagi: It makes mircea's article look like a joke.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.PPT] 4 @ 0.0001 = 0.0004 BTC [-]
usagi: I also pointed out to him that running an unlicensed securities exchange is illegal in the USA. "So?"
usagi: neither mpex or glbse operate there
usagi: The US is not going to ask for mircea's extradition any more than greece will
assbot: [GLBSE] [UDN] 2 @ 0.0999 = 0.1998 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 1 @ 0.08000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 6 @ 0.08 = 0.48 BTC [-]
usagi: It's a bullshit point.
rg: its illegal everywhere
usagi: And, it's not relevant wrt security
usagi: The article purports to be a comparison of security and then talks about legality
Luceo: usagi: Depends on your definition of security
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 4 @ 0.0705 = 0.282 BTC [-]
rg: security is legality
Luceo: It's not relevant to network security, it IS relevant to asset security
usagi: and he says that in the event glbse was shut down there would be a claims process but on mpex it would proceed orderly
rg: if something is illegal, it is a threat to its own security
usagi: he can't say that.
usagi: There are a number of clear problems with what he's said.
usagi: So that's how I evaluate it; not credible.
assbot: [GLBSE] [UDN] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
rg: so write your own report
usagi: Who cares?
assbot: [GLBSE] [UDN] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
rg: you
Luceo: tbh the law regarding most of what we do
Luceo: Is so ridiculously antiquated
Luceo: Registration wouldn't be worth it imo
usagi: I care to the point that I don't :p
usagi: I gave it some time and thought
usagi: That's about it
usagi: IMO mpex lacks vision and customer support, they have some security, and thats about it. It needs a lot of work.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 4 @ 0.92307691 = 3.6923 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 1 @ 0.92307692 BTC [+]
Luceo: mpex needs an interface which is user-friendly, and imo should have a free-tier account that can't issue assets
Luceo: and charge the fee only to issuers
Luceo: I dont mind paying the fee, many people will
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00038844 = 1.4372 BTC [+]
usagi: I'm not sure it's the fee
usagi: the fee is nothing, I paid 32btc just to issue nyan
Luceo: Doesnt bother issuers, does bother the casual traders who make up a lot of the demand curve on glbse
BTCHero: I am not a serious enough trader to spend 20 btc just to get on mpex
Luceo: ^
Luceo: I am
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.0971 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.13874 = 0.2775 BTC [+]
usagi: The only assets worth trading are passed thru to glbse
usagi: and if mircea shuts those down he will lose a lot of business
Luceo: But I think the fee puts people off and herds them towards glbse, paying $200 to join an exchange with only $50k daily volume is a lot
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 1 @ 0.119999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 5 @ 0.0688 = 0.344 BTC [-]
usagi: Thats another thing, why does he keep saying mpex does more volume in a week than glbse does in a month
usagi: It's obvious just watching the exchange what is more popular
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.10897 = 1.0897 BTC [-]
usagi: I mean just being in this channel it's obvious
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.10898 = 0.5449 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.10899 = 0.436 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.109 = 5.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 24 @ 0.1099 = 2.6376 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.11 = 0.77 BTC [+]
usagi: If you list on mpex and don't get a passthry to glbse
usagi: you made a mistake
BTCHero: well mpex is more about puts and calls it seems to me
Luceo: MPEX generally has the higher value transactions
usagi: I can tell you right now RG I'd triple my investment in your company if it was on GLBSE. As it stands there's extra risk involved, and extra fees because brendio
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 5 @ 0.0689 = 0.3445 BTC [+]
usagi: Same with satoshidice, now I don't just have to worry about 1 person I need to worry about 3.
usagi: And for my extra risk what do I get? I pay more for the security
BTCHero: 2 now 4
assbot: [GLBSE] [UDN] 10 @ 0.1 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 2 @ 1.04 = 2.08 BTC [+]
Luceo: usagi: I would use mpex far more if it had more users and more movement
Luceo: I do like the higher level of security, I just don't see the point in making big holdings there when they're near-impossible to move
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 2 @ 0.9999 = 1.9998 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 2 @ 0.99998989 = 2 BTC [+]
Luceo: usagi: Is YARR going to pay pirate interest if you get it back?
usagi: Yes
Luceo: Since I noticed there's been no interest in the default period even though pirate said he will pay it
usagi: We will keep the first 5% and pass thru the rest, about that
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 0.9486 BTC [+]
usagi: But some people want out now, so I'm buying back what I can until the default is obvious
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 17 @ 0.0971 = 1.6507 BTC [+]
Luceo: Do you think pirate will pay back?
usagi: or the payback
usagi: I don't know.
usagi: He broke his word about paying people back starting last week
usagi: And today it's tuesday and there's still no real news.
mircea_popescu: rg its basically a summary of 3 weeks of -assets << well apparently it's not a summary, it's me spreading "fud".
Luceo: Yeah he paid a few but nothing near what he should have
usagi: No news I can repeat in public anyway ;-)
BTCHero: usagi: is in on it, get the mob
usagi: I have sources just like everyone else does. the problem with sources is that they are not always reliable, btchero.
mircea_popescu: <usagi> The US is not going to ask for mircea's extradition any more than greece will <<< actually, i think i have the legal matters involved with running the exchange pretty well covered.
usagi: I hear one thing and then the exact opposite from someone else.
usagi: You think so, but are you sure?
mircea_popescu: <usagi> and he says that in the event glbse was shut down there would be a claims process but on mpex it would proceed orderly << it just says mpex has a way to give people their proofs and glbse does not. this is true.
BTCHero: well I am a commoner, so I only hear the same nohing from pirate over and over
rg: mircea_popescu: well
usagi: No it isn't true mircea. That's the problem/.
rg: everyone knows nefario doesnt live in china
mircea_popescu: <usagi> and if mircea shuts those down he will lose a lot of business << glbse does less than 20% of any of the assets passed througgh.
usagi: You can't talk about other companies internal procedures like you know, because you don't/
rg: and your site is vuln to exploit
rg: if someone found an exploit in GPG
rg: your server obviously executes GPG at one point
rg: with content from the user
rg: so if someone managed to overflow it that way, it'd be owned
rg: if the webserver was owned someone could easily change the addresses on it and make people send their coins to them
rg: not you
rg: terrible wording
rg: but you know what i mean
mircea_popescu: <usagi> You think so, but are you sure? << i've been on the web with thart exact site for > 5 years.
usagi: Not sure if past performance... or future results..
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12026 @ 0.00038838 = 4.6707 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24574 @ 0.0003859 = 9.4831 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: usagi don't weasel out of it. you can't say "o, someone who;'s been at it forever is vulnerable becasue a buncha forum handles that exist since last week say so"
usagi: Mircea; Let's say I come to you with an IPO proposal with a company that makes 1,000 btc a month.
mircea_popescu: rg : no, not really. what'd they change ?
mircea_popescu: usagi yea...
Luceo: -_- My cat has worked out how to use the mouse...
usagi: Can you guarantee I'd raise more money listing on MPEX than GLBSE or any other exchange?
rg: mircea_popescu: the deposit address
mircea_popescu: usagi this was already proven
rg: usagi: i made more on MPEX than GLBSE
mircea_popescu: !ticker s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0034 / 0.0034 / 0.0034 (57763 shares, 196.39 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00322876 / 0.0034 (2352963 shares, 7,597.18 BTC)
mircea_popescu: !ticker gsdpt
assbot: [GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.00313] [Ask: 0.0034] [Spread: 0.00027] [Last: 0.0034] [24hVol: 18.6751] [7dAvg: 0.00370643]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SS] 1 @ 1.6 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: o wait, glbse conveniently DOESNT LIST ITS VOLUME
mircea_popescu: s.dice made 80%+ of it's money on mpex.
usagi: Ueah but there are people passing thru mpex to glbse :p
mircea_popescu: glbse did less than one broker.
mircea_popescu: are you nuts ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.171 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the whole volume of gsdpt is ~1k
rg: dude both services are differemt
rg: what's the point of flinging mud
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+]
usagi: Well see
usagi: I asked a question.
mircea_popescu: <rg> mircea_popescu: the deposit address << what the hell ? how do they change that ?
Luceo: I like both
usagi: Mircea otoh is flinging mud.
rg: mircea_popescu: by owning the box?
mircea_popescu: <rg> what's the point of flinging mud << i dunno man. guy comes in here wants to talkabout how mpex is shit
mircea_popescu: he gets what he gets, what do you want from me ?
rg: if people wanna talk shit about mepx
rg: that's their perogative
rg: it doesnt mean you go and print a papr about how the other exchange sucks
usagi: I asked where I could make more money listing; I didn't even imply that one server was better. But all I hear from you, mircea, is subterfuge.
mircea_popescu: hey, entirely true.
mircea_popescu: usagi i clearly said to you : you make 7.5k on mpex and 1k on glbse. what's not clear about this ?
usagi: A lot of what you said in your article is just wrong. When you say stuff like you do about glbse shutting down and using a claims process, it makes you look incredibly biased.
rg: lol
rg: its already biased
rg: regardless of the content
rg: the fucking owner of the other exchange wrote it
mircea_popescu: again : if glbse goes down there is NO WAY for the user data to be shown in the clear.
Chaang-Noi: you guys even bothered reading it?
Chaang-Noi: lol suckers
mircea_popescu: ican just sign everyone's stats with THEIR OWN signature
mircea_popescu: and dump the whole thing on p2p
usagi: You can't say that.
mircea_popescu: do you even grasp what's involved here ?
rg: chaang: we're headed for .002 !
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi reading never hurt anyone.
usagi: So you use gpg? So?
rg: seen the btc-e order book?
Chaang-Noi: we are level at .0035
usagi: GLBSE can just give everyone a snapshot of their portfolio.
Chaang-Noi: its been me selling and not buying
usagi: Heck they can even sign it with GPG
Chaang-Noi: stupid pirate...
usagi: Whats the point of saying that?
mircea_popescu: usagi srsly. if you don't understand gpg and what it does / why it;'s imp[ortant you're not yet qualified to be a party to this discussion.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck dio you mean "so" ?
rg: 0.003 33129.15654657 99.38746963
usagi: It makes no sense :)
mircea_popescu: they can't sign with gpg seeing how they don't have the bloody keys.
rg: doh
Chaang-Noi: oh wow .003
rg: that wasnt there
mircea_popescu: how do they sign ?
Chaang-Noi: there was a large wall at .0034
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 3 @ 0.1389 = 0.4167 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: im glad i sold my 150k then :)
Chaang-Noi: of 250k
rg: 0.0034 31046.96162527 105.55966952
rg: that's there too
usagi: The point here is that glbse keeps that information in a different way. You do not NEED to sign it with gpg to make it valid or official.
rg: those werent there yesterday
rg: damn
rg: yesterday someon coulda knocked it right down
Chaang-Noi: lol
rg: but no ltc traders have any real money
Chaang-Noi: yeah i saw that
rg: that's why they trade ltc
Chaang-Noi: and then did not do it
Chaang-Noi: i once had real money...
rg: the before time
rg: in the long long ago
Chaang-Noi: now pirate has it :)
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 5 @ 0.01 = 0.05 BTC
rg: he could still pay
mircea_popescu: usagi if you don't have gpg you're missing out.
usagi: I have GPG
mircea_popescu: good.
Chaang-Noi: yeah i know
rg: gpg is a pain in my ass
mircea_popescu: dun hate rg! it's lovely!
usagi: But I don't see the point of having to manually sign orders with gpg. That's backend stuff.
Chaang-Noi: usagi if you quit responding he will go away!
mircea_popescu: gpg is gods gift to people.
rg: usagi: if it was signed on the backend
rg: it would hav the private key
rg: which defeats te whole purpose
mircea_popescu: usagi yes. think for a moment. exchange goes down.
mircea_popescu: what do you do now ?
usagi: No, not necessarily RG.
mircea_popescu: you have all this user info. what do you do ?
Chaang-Noi: i party as i only sell assets not buy them!
nefario: you get the backup
usagi: Same thing mpex woudl do
nefario: you have a backup of mpex mircea_popescu right?
mircea_popescu: nefario no. went down as in, bitcoinica down. forever.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 14 @ 0.10499 = 1.4699 BTC [+]
nefario: you're retarded
mircea_popescu: dude srsly. i'm not the one that's down half the time, stop being silly.
nefario: bitcoinica had no backups
usagi: You are saying on one hand that mpex could provide information but on the other hand glbse could not. it just doesn't make sense.
mircea_popescu: glorious.
rg: bitcoinica had backups
mircea_popescu: usagi it does make sense.
rg: they just had them in the same place as everything else
rg: which is the opposite of what you're meant to do
usagi: The fact that it's signed is not relevant...........
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 8 @ 0.5001 = 4.0008 BTC [-]
usagi: it's just not relevant
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 10 @ 0.5 = 5 BTC [-]
rg: which is why our backup is in NYC
rg: and none of our servers are
mircea_popescu: usagi you're just being silly.
mircea_popescu: do you understand that i can sign the whole database with each account's key and dump it in the open
mircea_popescu: and ONLY THE RIGHT PEOPLE could read it ?
mircea_popescu: this is what gpg does.
mircea_popescu: if all you have is account name/pass you CAN NOT DO THIS
usagi: And what would the use of that be
nefario: mircea_popescu: unless your exchange publishes the balance for a user or gives them a signed balance every time a trade happens they can't piece together anything
mircea_popescu: you have to put up a damned webpage going "hai user, pls to reclaim your acct with your pw"
usagi: If MPEX went down you couldn't do that
usagi: as in, goes down forever
mircea_popescu: nefario it does exactly that.
mircea_popescu: usagi yes, i could
usagi: Not if mpex goes down
mircea_popescu: and i actually have measures in place for that to happen.
rg: mircea has a contingency plan
mircea_popescu: if mpex goes down the entire thing goes to p2p.
rg: even the romanian secret service came and killed him
nefario: GLBSe has had a disaster plan for months
rg: we'd not be fucked
rg: but so does glbse
rg: so we can stop arguing this point
mircea_popescu: nefario yes, nefario, but IT DEPENDS ON A RECLAIM PROCESS!
mircea_popescu: jesus why is this so hard to grasp.
nefario: no it doesn't
mircea_popescu: ...
usagi: So what
nefario: we've got all the account details
nefario: and all the BTC
mircea_popescu: SO NOTJHING OTHER THAN THE FACT. for christ.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 109 @ 0.269 = 29.321 BTC [-]
nefario: bring up GLBSE - other site
nefario: people have their accounts back
nefario: whats so hard about this to understand
mircea_popescu: yes. after they claim it!
mircea_popescu: jesus.
JWU_42: not this channel isn't #glbse or #mpex ;)
usagi: This is like saying MY ORANGES COME FROM SPAIN
nefario: claim it?
nefario: as in login?
nefario: like normal
mircea_popescu: yes. claim it. yes.
JWU_42: not = note
nefario: so they do what they always do then
JWU_42: getting sick of all this crap
nefario: which is logging in
nefario: so
rg: i think everyone should relax
mircea_popescu: so you have no alternative dood.
nefario: GLBSE users are always claiming their accounts
rg: mircea can run his exchange and publish his little papers
mircea_popescu: suppose it's impossible to get them to login
rg: and nefario can continue to run his
mircea_popescu: suppose the internet goes down forever.
usagi: Mircea...... the differe3nce here is that one system uses a password and one system uses a private key as a password
rg: and improve it
mircea_popescu: jesus fuck.
usagi: It's really the same thing.
nefario: mircea_popescu: why would it be impossible?
usagi: The joke here is that glbse could do the same thing using user's passwords as keys
mircea_popescu: sigh. i am getting sick of discussing security with people who don't actually know wtf security is.
mircea_popescu: security is an absolute, ladies and gents.
mircea_popescu: it's not a feeling.
usagi: I have a background in computer security.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't show.
usagi: Security is not an absolute lol
nefario: mircea_popescu: security is not an absolute
mircea_popescu: yours isn't.
Luceo: Security is never an absolute
usagi: it doesn't show, because it is a good background :p
mircea_popescu: that's kind of the point.
Luceo: It's a scale
Luceo: :/
nefario: and on that note everyone goodnight
rg: night
usagi: I could design a system more secure than mpex that was easier to use
mircea_popescu: suppose every time you put a site up for ppl to login you get ddos'ed within 30 seconds
usagi: in my sleep
mircea_popescu: and this goes on for 1k sites over 2 weeks
Luceo: usagi: Do it then :P I'll use it
mircea_popescu: what nao ? o, "it's a scale"
usagi: I have no time.
mircea_popescu: Luceo it's there.
usagi: brb
mircea_popescu: usagi i doubt you have better use of your time than to compete with me.
rg: stop all this shit
rg: everyone grow up
mircea_popescu: yea srsly.
rg: go flood the forums
mircea_popescu: this chan wasn't this lively in months.
usagi: I don't want to compete with you
rg: SO how about that Bitcoin price increase
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 10 @ 0.1389 = 1.389 BTC [+]
rg: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.85, Best ask: 10.8889, Bid-ask spread: 0.03890, Last trade: 10.85, 24 hour volume: 101580, 24 hour low: 10.5, 24 hour high: 11.883
rg: ;;asks 12
gribble: There are currently 61844.237 bitcoins offered at or under 12.0 USD, worth 715198.703307 USD in total.
rg: ;;market sell 500000
gribble: A market order to sell 500000 bitcoins right now would net 1919584.4110 USD and would take the last price down to 1.1500 USD, resulting in an average price of 3.8392 USD/BTC.
Luceo: ;;market buy 500000
gribble: This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 165687.65 bitcoins, for a total of 1115166798.0649 USD and take the price to 1000000000.0000.
Luceo: ;;market buy 50000
gribble: A market order to buy 50000 bitcoins right now would take 573130.7010 USD and would take the last price up to 12.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 11.4626 USD/BTC.
rg: HEY
rg: i told -otc already but
rg: i got my casacius coin
rg: the one i won
mircea_popescu: wd!
rg: the under side is cool
rg: but the front seems
rg: uninspired
rg: it says on the bottom:
rg: 5 BITCOINS
rg: but it looks like
rg: SHIT COINS
rg: from above
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.1499998 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: aww
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 11 @ 0.01 = 0.11 BTC
Chaang-Noi: its the silver colourd one?
rg: yeah its silver on the front
rg: gold on the back
Chaang-Noi: yeah
Chaang-Noi: what?
EB250: !help
assbot: List of commands:
assbot: !ticker <ticker> (desc: returns current GLBSE/MPEX ticker values)
assbot: !pl <ticker> [<amount>@]<bought at> [<YYYY-MM-DD>] (desc: profit loss calc for GLBSE assets)
Chaang-Noi: gold on the back?
Chaang-Noi: the holigram you mean?
rg: yeh
Chaang-Noi: oh
Chaang-Noi: well
Chaang-Noi: yeah anyway they are cool
EB250: !pl GSDPT
assbot: !pl <ticker> [<amount>@]<bought at> [<YYYY-MM-DD>]
Chaang-Noi: i have many :)
rg: this dude in here told me about the auction
EB250: !pl GSDPT 1000
Chaang-Noi: i have atleast one of everything he makes
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla does anyone much use the !pl thing ? (by looking at the logs i mean).
assbot: No dividend payments yet.
Chaang-Noi: including the 1000 gold one
rg: |}ruid
kakobrekla: dunno
rg: the guy who mailed it to me has the hand writing of a 14 year old
rg: just like mine
mircea_popescu: im wondering if i shouldd bother to make a thing for that ?
EB250: no profit loss calculations if no dividend? strange
kakobrekla: someone cant code
kakobrekla: oh wait.
mircea_popescu: lol ?
EB250: !ticker GSDPT
assbot: [GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.00313] [Ask: 0.0034] [Spread: 0.00027] [Last: 0.0034] [24hVol: 18.6751] [7dAvg: 0.00370643]
kakobrekla: EB250, maybe ill fix it when i have some time
EB250: nice bot and good idea for calculations
EB250: !pl KRAKEN 100
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: No dividend payments yet.
kakobrekla: stupid ass.
EB250: !pl FDBF 100
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: No dividend payments yet.
EB250: damn.. I need one with divs
mircea_popescu: !pl gigamining
assbot: !pl <ticker> [<amount>@]<bought at> [<YYYY-MM-DD>]
mircea_popescu: sigh
EB250: !pl gigamining 100
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: GIGAMINING [1@1BTC] paid: 0.41490096 BTC. Last price: 0.9446 BTC. Capital gain: -99.0554 BTC. Total: -98.64049904 BTC. (-98.6%)
kakobrekla: 100?
kakobrekla: !pl gigamining 100@1
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
EB250: !pl gigamining 1.55
assbot: GIGAMINING [100@1BTC] paid: 41.490096 BTC. Last price: 0.9446 BTC. Capital gain: -5.54 BTC. Total: 35.950096 BTC. (36%)
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: GIGAMINING [1@1.55BTC] paid: 0.41490096 BTC. Last price: 0.9446 BTC. Capital gain: -0.6054 BTC. Total: -0.19049904 BTC. (-12.3%)
EB250: can you add this? If no price or number of shares, uses the first trade and 1 share?
kakobrekla: first trade of giga is 10btc
kakobrekla: default is 1 share
EB250: :)
EB250: ok then
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1200 @ 0.00093835 = 1.126 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2852 @ 0.00094838 = 2.7048 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 305 @ 0.00095089 = 0.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9900 @ 0.00095932 = 9.4973 BTC [+]
EB250: !pl BITBOND 0.60 2012-04-15
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: BITBOND [1@0.6BTC] (since: 2012-04-15) paid: 0.16611276 BTC. Last price: 0.467 BTC. Capital gain: -0.133 BTC. Total: 0.03311276 BTC. (5.5%)
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 5 @ 0.061 = 0.305 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 5 @ 0.06 = 0.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 5 @ 0.999 = 4.995 BTC [+]
EB250: !pl DMC 1
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: DMC [1@1BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.06 BTC. Capital gain: -0.94 BTC. Total: -0.91364186 BTC. (-91.4%)
EB250: This has to be the record :)
usagi: !pl DMC 0.01111111111
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: DMC [1@0.01111111BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.06 BTC. Capital gain: 0.04888889 BTC. Total: 0.07524703 BTC. (677.2%)
mircea_popescu: !pl MPOE.ETF 0.1
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: MPOE.ETF [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.0104835 BTC. Last price: 1.3 BTC. Capital gain: 1.2 BTC. Total: 1.2104835 BTC. (1210.5%)
mircea_popescu: that's the record.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.09709999 = 0.1942 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 40 @ 0.0972 = 3.888 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 15 @ 1.04998 = 15.7497 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 5 @ 1.04999899 = 5.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 2 @ 1.04999999 = 2.1 BTC [+]
rg: !pl S.BVPS 0.0032
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
rg: oh its glbse only
assbot: GLBSE 404
mircea_popescu: !pl BIB.BVPS 0.0032
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: BIB.BVPS [1@0.0032BTC] paid: 0.00015143 BTC. Last price: 0.004 BTC. Capital gain: 0.0008 BTC. Total: 0.00095143 BTC. (29.7%)
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 11 @ 0.4999 = 5.4989 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00038795 = 0.0776 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18009 @ 0.00038844 = 6.9954 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5691 @ 0.00038862 = 2.2116 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 1 @ 0.10099 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.10989 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 8 @ 0.10499 = 0.8399 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: http://smpake.com/temp/links_preview.png
mircea_popescu: per week ?
kakobrekla: ya
mircea_popescu: o if they take a long time to send money ?
kakobrekla: and txes are free
kakobrekla: this is a perma link
kakobrekla: you can send anytime any amount
kakobrekla: to addy x
kakobrekla: and youll get it after y confirms
kakobrekla: to addy z
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 119 @ 0.269 = 32.011 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.21000002 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 24 @ 0.21000001 = 5.04 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so who pays the weekly fee ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 25 @ 0.21 = 5.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 21 @ 0.20934901 = 4.3963 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.20000001 = 4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 50 @ 0.2 = 10 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: sender of the funds
mircea_popescu: but it's weekly...
kakobrekla: you make first tx
kakobrekla: you pay fee
mircea_popescu: ya
mircea_popescu: then 3 weeks later ?
kakobrekla: and for next 7 days
kakobrekla: there is no fee
kakobrekla: if you send after 8 days
kakobrekla: you get fee again
mircea_popescu: aha!
mircea_popescu: interesting concept
kakobrekla: also after 1 week the priority goes down
kakobrekla: until you send tx through it again
mircea_popescu: i c
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 83 @ 0.99998989 = 82.9992 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: then it bounces back to high priority
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 34 @ 0.9999899 = 33.9997 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 3 @ 0.9999989 = 3 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.0034 = 4.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 48 @ 0.089 = 4.272 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 52 @ 0.09 = 4.68 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 30 @ 0.10099 = 3.0297 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00038822 = 0.0776 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17682 @ 0.00038774 = 6.856 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42918 @ 0.0003862 = 16.5749 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 27 @ 0.15999 = 4.3197 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 18 @ 0.16 = 2.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 50 @ 0.5899 = 29.495 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00038781 = 0.0776 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00038862 = 4.1194 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 30 @ 0.17 = 5.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 150 @ 0.16000001 = 24 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.15111 = 3.0222 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 4 @ 0.2103 = 0.8412 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 15 @ 0.2102 = 3.153 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 15 @ 0.21 = 3.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 20 @ 0.2 = 4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 5 @ 0.6 = 3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 0.2502001 = 0.7506 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 14 @ 0.2501001 = 3.5014 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 0.25 = 0.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 400 @ 0.00025 = 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 3 @ 0.045 = 0.135 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 8 @ 0.040001 = 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 100 @ 0.04 = 4 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: anyone want to buy pirate debt?
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.1389 = 0.2778 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: *crickets*
usagi: goat pirate is going for .15
usagi: Could be the chance of a lifetime
usagi: either way :p
smickles: < mircea_popescu> smickles http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=S.BVPS grep "dividends" :p <<< nice
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 48 @ 0.0828 = 3.9744 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 99 @ 0.0827 = 8.1873 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 100 @ 0.0825 = 8.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 100 @ 0.0824 = 8.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.0802 = 0.2406 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.21 = 2.1 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: things occur.
smickles: < bitfoo> yeah, SS needs a stock-split desperately. (hint hint smickles) << i'll see if there is any objection. Do you have a ratio in mind?
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 16 @ 0.0802 = 1.2832 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 34 @ 0.076 = 2.584 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: 1:100 ?
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10900 @ 0.00096019 = 10.4661 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3141 @ 0.00096344 = 3.0262 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.2001 = 1.0005 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 6 @ 0.152 = 0.912 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 35 @ 0.01343 = 0.4701 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 10 @ 0.013 = 0.13 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+]
smickles: 1 to 100 seems like a good start
bitfoo: sounds good
bitfoo: usagi, it's going from 7% to 700%. ;)
usagi: what do you mean?
bitfoo: you know, buying at 0.15 hoping to redeem at 1.whatever
bitfoo: roughly 700%
usagi: i'm hedged, so I am fine either way :p
bitfoo: mircea_popescu, the stockholm syndrome thing, people are accusing pirate supporters of suffering from stockholm syndrome
bitfoo: anyways.. gotta run. bbl.
mircea_popescu: later
kakobrekla: http://smpake.com/temp/links_preview.png
kakobrekla: is this clear enough
kakobrekla: or are you missing anything
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00038727 = 0.6584 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14426 @ 0.00038743 = 5.5891 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15609 @ 0.00038862 = 6.066 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20665 @ 0.00038877 = 8.0339 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 3 @ 0.015 = 0.045 BTC [+]
smickles: dam kakobrekla you stole my design
smickles: i was going to make smex look pretty similar to that
smickles: i'll just have to tweak a little bit then
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
mircea_popescu: YOU ALL STOLE MY DESIGNS!!!
usagi: s.ex woudl be a better name
usagi: the smickles exchange
mircea_popescu: sex lol
mircea_popescu: come get your fluids people! FLUIDS HERE!
smickles: usagi: you suggest i spring for a single letter tld?
smickles: ier
mircea_popescu: is there an .ex ?!
smickles: single letter domain
smickles: there could be now
smickles: if i coughed up hundreds of k
usagi: can you get .ex as the last 2 letters?
smickles: ya know, how there is going to be custom tlds
exahash: there is no .ex
smickles: like .coke .google etc
exahash: and new gtld's have to be 3+
smickles: oh
mircea_popescu: ya the new ones can't be 2 letter
smickles: too bad
mircea_popescu: so unless someone makes the Empire of Xerania or something...
mircea_popescu: anyway, if current grown continues for a year or so maybe i get .mpex tld
mircea_popescu: just to register a buncha domains and point them at polimedia.us/bitcoin
exahash: there is .es
exahash: smickl.es
smickles: nice
mircea_popescu: you should get it.
smickles: i actually tried to get carv.er, but they denied me
mircea_popescu: spanish domain
exahash: s.exchan.ge
exahash: :-)
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 7 @ 0.1389 = 0.9723 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: smickles sorry for stealing, must have done it subconsciously
mircea_popescu: maybe you're the same person
mircea_popescu: i think ciuciu might be on to someting here.
kakobrekla: i used to be schizophrenic, but we are ok now
kakobrekla: ;;topic
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kakobrekla: chart has moved
kakobrekla: network one.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 15 @ 0.171 = 2.565 BTC [+]
smickles: oh nifty chart
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 1 @ 0.6499 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: what changes ? looks the same to me ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 45 @ 0.1 = 4.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00038782 = 0.0776 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9949 @ 0.000387 = 3.8503 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5790 @ 0.0003862 = 2.2361 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: well i guess it depends when you last looked
kakobrekla: you/i
mircea_popescu: :p
kakobrekla: not sure how often it refreshes
mircea_popescu: i think it had a server reboot
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.10499 = 0.21 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 515 @ 0.00025 = 0.1288 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 84 @ 0.00344763 = 0.2896 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: omg rg! think of all the chicken!
mircea_popescu: ALMOST THREE DOLLA!
mircea_popescu: .py (100000*0.00330000 + 66687*0.00320000) / 100000000
assbot: [GLBSE] [POLY.10.1] 7 @ 1.149 = 8.043 BTC [+]
markac: 5.433984e-06
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10000 @ 0.0034 = 34 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: .py (100000*0.00330000 + 66687*0.00320000)
markac: 543.3984
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2000 @ 0.0034 = 6.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.9199 = 1.8398 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 390 @ 0.0034 = 1.326 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12196 @ 0.000965 = 11.7691 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 100 @ 0.92 = 92 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.2097 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.1081 = 3.9997 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.108 = 5.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 250 @ 0.0034 = 0.85 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00038777 = 0.0776 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29435 @ 0.00038877 = 11.4434 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28300 @ 0.0003888 = 11.003 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12764 @ 0.00038886 = 4.9634 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.00038887 = 10.7328 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36300 @ 0.00038891 = 14.1174 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12367 @ 0.00038978 = 4.8204 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20887 @ 0.00038995 = 8.1449 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00038997 = 7.1365 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22312 @ 0.00039045 = 8.7117 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.0003909 = 8.0135 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00039092 = 12.4703 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00039095 = 10.6729 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14609 @ 0.00039129 = 5.7164 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8166 @ 0.00039187 = 3.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38300 @ 0.00039258 = 15.0358 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43200 @ 0.00039365 = 17.0057 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7560 @ 0.00039492 = 2.9856 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.0033 = 2.97 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: We need a minimum trade amount.
EmanuelDeOrtego: I am sick of people tossing in pennies thinking they are doing something productive
rdponticelli: Let's not turn this into a elite
rdponticelli: You already have the traditional stock exchanges for that
rdponticelli: Lets allow people to exchange what they can afford
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.5499 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 10 @ 1.55 = 15.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4504 @ 0.000965 = 4.3464 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1400 @ 0.00096542 = 1.3516 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5400 @ 0.00096686 = 5.221 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4096 @ 0.00096687 = 3.9603 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 5 @ 0.06 = 0.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 20 @ 0.46799 = 9.3598 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 15 @ 0.94389 = 14.1584 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.94389 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: evoorhees: What's the deadline on the remaining shares?
mircea_popescu: <rdponticelli> Lets allow people to exchange what they can afford << ++
mircea_popescu: what's this, about 3 btc trades ? let ppl be omg!
rdponticelli: Well, you can do as you like
mircea_popescu: o btw, to whomever it may concern : mpex deposits got rid of the leading digit, it;'s always a 0 nao.
rdponticelli: I think that lowering the barrier is good
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli this is why i say share prices should be 10^-2 to 10^-5 or so
rdponticelli: At least, as long as the system can deal with it
rdponticelli: Yes, that's just another thing I like about mpex
rdponticelli: Good granularity
mircea_popescu: people aren't doing too much 1 share trading anyway
mircea_popescu: Average Transaction : 38.00741596 BTC
mircea_popescu: so myeah.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.2097 = 0.8388 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 50 @ 0.2098 = 10.49 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 40 @ 0.21 = 8.4 BTC [+]
rdponticelli: Yes, that's why there's no need to enforce rules just to push people out
rdponticelli: The market will be regulating itself as variables changes
mircea_popescu: maybe im missing something here.
rdponticelli: Did you read Emmanuel comments?
rdponticelli: I was answering them
EmanuelDeOrtego: Hmmm
rdponticelli: <EmanuelDeOrtego> We need a minimum trade amount.
rdponticelli: <EmanuelDeOrtego> I am sick of people tossing in pennies thinking they are doing something productive
EmanuelDeOrtego: What Evoorhees should of done was got rid of the extra zero
rdponticelli: I just don't agree
rdponticelli: And if btc really keeps going up those pennies would be no pennies no more...
mircea_popescu: o o
mircea_popescu: yeah tbh i think things are fine as they are.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.0034 = 8.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.0034 = 0.17 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Think about it.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Somebody would buy 2000 shares either way
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 4 @ 0.01 = 0.04 BTC
EmanuelDeOrtego: why not double or quadruple that power?
rdponticelli: Today
EmanuelDeOrtego: The whole point is for evoorhees to get funding
rdponticelli: Maybe in 10 years somebody just sell 1 share of those 2000
rdponticelli: And buys a yate xD
rdponticelli: Lets be optimistic
EmanuelDeOrtego: You're not being very pragmatic. Evoorhees has 8 million shares left to sell and the problem might be pricing
EmanuelDeOrtego: Now they will have to be withdrawn
rdponticelli: Yea, maybe pricing is too high
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego i think the "someone would buy 2000 shares either way" is flat wrong
rdponticelli: It has already been discussed
mircea_popescu: someone would buy 7 btc worth of shares no matter what they're priced at.
rdponticelli: But it has nothing to do with the total number of shares
EmanuelDeOrtego: You're probably right
copumpkin: I honestly don't see why we need whole numbers of shares
rdponticelli: Because of tradition?
assbot: [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 12 @ 0.087798 = 1.0536 BTC [+]
copumpkin: break from tradition!
copumpkin: we don't have share certificates
rdponticelli: Yea
mircea_popescu: copumpkin same reason we have whole number of bitocins.
mircea_popescu: precision.
rdponticelli: But it's all about changing what can be changed, without breaking everything else
copumpkin: but I can send you a tiny fraction of a bitcoin if I choose
copumpkin: having a unit is fine
copumpkin: make it subdivisble though
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 20 @ 0.06 = 1.2 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: copumpkin you can not send me a fraction of satoshi.
copumpkin: sure
mircea_popescu: that's the unit.
rdponticelli: If you make shares divisible, you break people's minds
mircea_popescu: this entire bitcoin thing is just fud.
copumpkin: I wouldn't say that
mircea_popescu: satoshi is what it is.
mircea_popescu: "A bitcoin" is about as meaningful as "a barrel of cryptotripes"
copumpkin: the point is to have something which can change in either direction
copumpkin: you pick enough precision to be divisible in either direction
rdponticelli: Yea, but the point is having something that people still understand, also
copumpkin: it really isn't that hard to imagine buying half a share
copumpkin: or 1/10 of one
mircea_popescu: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/27/disable_java_to_block_exploit/
rdponticelli: Not for you, not for me
mircea_popescu: TAKE DOWN ALL JAVA NAO!
mircea_popescu: im not even kidding.
copumpkin: I never run it anyway
mircea_popescu: me either.
copumpkin: except for work
copumpkin: but oh well
mircea_popescu: <copumpkin> it really isn't that hard to imagine buying half a share << what's hard to imagine is the benefit of doing so.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 15 @ 0.94389 = 14.1584 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: 1 share is valued at $100. You need $50
EmanuelDeOrtego: You sell half a share
EmanuelDeOrtego: Get $50
EmanuelDeOrtego: You also don't have to use long ass decimals from the start
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.46799 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 20 @ 1.59 = 31.8 BTC [+]
mod6: no
mircea_popescu: 1 share should never be valued at $100.
mircea_popescu: do a split, now you own 100 shares of $1. problem solved.
mircea_popescu: also, in binary .5 is a very long ass decimal.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Apple is valued at $600
EmanuelDeOrtego: per share
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.1389 = 0.2778 BTC [+]
Shalom_: thats crazy
mircea_popescu: ya, they don't know how to run that exchange.
EmanuelDeOrtego: It makes sense if you think about it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0034 = 1.7 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Only people who value Apple are going to buy it
EmanuelDeOrtego: The stock doesn't go into weak hands who will throw it away easily
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: who do you think buys/sells shares one at a time !?
EmanuelDeOrtego: That's not my point.
EmanuelDeOrtego: It's harder to sell 10 $600 shares than it is
mircea_popescu: well i doubt anyone seriously gets fuzzy feelings from he share being 600 rather than .6
EmanuelDeOrtego: to sell 600 $1 shares
mircea_popescu: then again hathaway is what, 50k or something
mod6: anyone who knows how to trade never would go long on $600 stock when you can buy options for a fraction of the cost, which gives you the option to buy, but not the obligation
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 1 @ 1.19739576 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Berkshire Hathaway Inc. (BRK-A) -NYSE 127,719.98 478.02(0.37%)
mircea_popescu: ahaha. it went up 500 bux. that's +0.x% :D
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: you have trouble imagining the benefit of it? a lot of problems become a lot easier if you more outside of the integers
copumpkin: optimization problems of various sorts
copumpkin: and the question is why restrict it
copumpkin: tradition is a stupid reason
smickles: < mircea_popescu> then again hathaway is what, 50k or something <<< the going rate for a share of anne hathaway is only 50k?
smickles: ;D
copumpkin: those who want integer numbers of shares can keep trading them
EmanuelDeOrtego: It would be cool if a company could sell divisions of just 1 share
copumpkin: glbse would be able to charge meaningful fees to sellers of shares too, for example
copumpkin: although I guess you wouldn't want them to be holding companies
mircea_popescu: copumpkin i'm not moving off int before actual precise real becomes possible in computers.
copumpkin: uh, fixed point is all I'm proposing
copumpkin: which is what bitcoin does
mircea_popescu: that;s the plain and simple reason.
mircea_popescu: no, bitcoin is an integer.
rg: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/27/disable_java_to_block_exploit/ -- #1 reason why your firewall is useless
copumpkin: lol
copumpkin: so is fixed point arithmetic ;)
mircea_popescu: so then let's call it int and be done with it :D
mircea_popescu: but you see ?
mircea_popescu: just a matter of labelling really.
copumpkin: furthermore, I use infinite-precision reals whenever I feel like it in haskell
copumpkin: yes, that's what fixed-point math is
copumpkin: shifting the conceptual decimal point
mircea_popescu: so then you can say i use fractionary shares in a fixed-point system with the point fixed at 0
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 20 @ 0.9999989 = 20 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: also infinite precision != precise.
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: that's effectively what people are doing, in an ugly way, when they issue one billion shares of a company that's worth 100k
copumpkin: ;)
mircea_popescu: why ugly ?
mircea_popescu: and it's worth 4mn if you're talking dollars tyvm!
copumpkin: why is it annoying that zimbabwe had a dozen zeros after common denominations of bills?
copumpkin: [19:45:07] <mircea_popescu> also infinite precision != precise.
copumpkin: what do you mean there?
mircea_popescu: im sorry, i don't see the problem. let there be zeroes.
smickles: my baby keeps making Joseph Ducreux poses
mircea_popescu: i mean infinite precision reals are still nothing but asymptotically precise.
rdponticelli: Can I buy Pi shares of S.DICE?
rdponticelli: :D
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 10 @ 0.9999989 = 10 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 25 @ 0.9999999 = 25 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: smickles http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Ducreuxyawn.jpg ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 35 @ 0.99999998 = 35 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: rd well you can buy 314151692...
smickles: mircea_popescu: yup
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: they're precise to whatever depth you ask about, which is as much as you can ever hope for, since we don't deal in infinities
smickles: she'll do that, and then wave at me
mircea_popescu: copumpkin anyways.
mircea_popescu: the entire thing seems really a discussion of semantics at best.
copumpkin: semantics is meaning, and I care about meaning :)
mircea_popescu: mkay.
rdponticelli: Yea, it's a nice point
mircea_popescu: the entire thing seems really a discussion of sterile semantics at best.
copumpkin: I like sterility
copumpkin: more people should be sterile
mircea_popescu: omg don't go around imposing your sterility on others!! pinko
mircea_popescu: more *women* should be sterile.
copumpkin: oh no, more men should be
mircea_popescu: filhy hussies.
copumpkin: I intend to sterilize all men but me
mircea_popescu: copumpkin i don't fuck men.
mircea_popescu: so why'd i care about their germs
copumpkin: oh I'm not talking about germs, just reproduction
copumpkin: we need fewer dumbass parents having dumbass children
copumpkin: I shall solve this problem
copumpkin: by 1) enacting communism worldwide
copumpkin: 2) sterilizing most people
copumpkin: except for my inner circle
mod6: ugh
apumpkin: it might not be a problem, the dumasses could save the species
copumpkin: pay me 10000 btc to join the inner circle
mircea_popescu: copumpkin is such a fail troll.
copumpkin: how so?
mircea_popescu: dude, you need to pay that wright guy for guitar lessons
mircea_popescu: even vrag trolls better than you
mircea_popescu: and he's absent.
copumpkin: lol
apumpkin: i know i can only play a little carcassi
copumpkin: I'm not trolling!
apumpkin: guitarlessons would help
copumpkin: and at least my reals have infinite precision
copumpkin: unlike yours
apumpkin: i can play this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnGoHClRN0U
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 5 @ 0.049 = 0.245 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC [+]
apumpkin: that thing is fucking beautiful
mircea_popescu: you don't have enough css in you to be better than me
copumpkin: I can play this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOe670xcKhk
mircea_popescu: apumpkin when you play it or in general ? :D
apumpkin: mircea_popescu: to me, both
mircea_popescu: haha
smickles: jesus copumpkin really?
copumpkin: yup
smickles: nice
copumpkin: I learned it in high school when I was sulking over getting dumped :P
copumpkin: not as well as she can, obviously
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 80 @ 0.025 = 2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 20 @ 0.00022 = 0.0044 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Well that was the last leg of PPT.DIV
rdponticelli: Who had still bids for PPT.DIV?
rdponticelli: A lot of people doesn't have a clue...
EmanuelDeOrtego: It takes a lot to understand Bitcoin.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Yet we still have our retards.
smickles: i'm not so sure it was ever a 'smart' thing to buy into a ppt
mircea_popescu: ahaha you got dumped by a musician chick ?!
rdponticelli: No, but buying into the profits of a ppt operation after the whole operations is busted...
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli why won't you have hope.
rdponticelli: That's a lot less than smart
smickles: wow, people did that?
rdponticelli: They're still buying ppt.div
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 12 @ 0.99999998 = 12 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 26 @ 0.99999999 = 26 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+]
usagi: Ha! killed the panickers
usagi: finally
usagi: I am the master of the seven seas
usagi: I am the lord of trading
mircea_popescu: lol
mod6: heh
mircea_popescu: the sultan of swing eh ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.94389 BTC [+]
usagi: the tentacle of grape.
mod6: don't get graped in the mouth by pirate
smickles: lol, got slapped for claiming to master TheSeven :D
mircea_popescu: I am master of the seven harlots
EmanuelDeOrtego: Ron Paul just ran a lap around the RNC
EmanuelDeOrtego: his delegate are rioting lol
EmanuelDeOrtego: delegates*
smickles: EmanuelDeOrtego: is this on the internet?
EmanuelDeOrtego: let me get it
EmanuelDeOrtego: Apparently that was breaking on radio
EmanuelDeOrtego: http://www.boston.com/2012/08/27/paul-delegates-mounting-floor-fight-over-new-rules/fR0wAIYu1nhg6EwiTVYSpO/story.html
EmanuelDeOrtego: That's all I have for now
EmanuelDeOrtego: http://imgur.com/uQYp5
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.1099 = 4.0663 BTC [+]
smickles: so i tune in and see a jew calling on god setup to look like a nazi
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.11 = 1.43 BTC [+]
smickles: the rnc is awesome
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.11 = 0.55 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1030011 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 8 @ 0.103 = 0.824 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Yep, the Ron Paul delegates are tearing the Republican party a new one.
EmanuelDeOrtego: It needed to done.
mircea_popescu: haha cool.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400000 @ 0.003345 = 1338 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: I hope the party is gone after this.
mircea_popescu: mmm
mircea_popescu: the us needs like 4-5 parties
mircea_popescu: this two party bs is ... bs.
EmanuelDeOrtego: It's a system that's easy to control
mircea_popescu: not by the voters.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Ha and that's the problem.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42000 @ 0.00039217 = 16.4711 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4200 @ 0.0034 = 14.28 BTC [+]
smickles: sweet tunes from the rnc
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.1389 = 0.2778 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00039217 = 7.0198 BTC [-]
jcpham: what is with all the voting talk
jcpham: i thought that was in november
smickles: it's a long process
jcpham: oh it is the primaries
smickles: iirc, technically, this convention could nominate someone else
smickles: naw
smickles: it's the republican convention
jcpham: i think local/city stuff is happening also
jcpham: maybe that is what it is
smickles: yeah, local stuff happens often
jcpham: that's what it is
jcpham: i've been seeing people standing outside and stuff
jcpham: i got confused for a moment
smickles: lol
smickles: texas
smickles: they showed up in a uniform
smickles: a texas flag shirt and stedsons(sp?)
smickles: stetson
mircea_popescu: stetson ?
mircea_popescu: ta
smickles: and jeans
assbot: [GLBSE] [LTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.59 = 1.18 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26394 @ 0.00039004 = 10.2947 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.8401 = 3.3604 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 25 @ 0.84 = 21 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.83911 = 1.6782 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.83900001 = 3.356 BTC [-]
smickles: lol, gotta love some of these speaches, take at their content, these people support ron paul, but then they say elect romney
smickles: politics is odd
smickles: in 'merica
jcpham: he has spoken again
smickles: who?
jcpham: i'm thinking of getting real crazy and buying up toxic glbse bonds
jcpham: you know who
smickles: ...... um .. . pirate?
jcpham: that guy
smickles: either that, or you are a charismatic christian claiming, "he is risen"
jcpham: he, who is him
smickles: he is the narcoleptic charasimatic christian from the sapranos. the writers must've had fun with that one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 206 @ 0.00039004 = 0.0803 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46326 @ 0.00038893 = 18.0176 BTC [-]
smickles: also i just love the consonance of 'charismatic christian claiming', it subtley evokes a connection the the KKK
jcpham: i hear it too
mircea_popescu: jcpham well at 1 cent to the dollar it might not do any harm anyay
mircea_popescu: buy the entire guy's issuance out of poker night money.
jcpham: i spent the poker winnings on hookers and blow already
mircea_popescu: hookers and blow is so last season
mircea_popescu: harlots and brew is where it's at now.
smickles: damn, the tampa mayor sounded like a fascist
smickles: i didn't expect that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.0003865 = 0.0773 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9992 @ 0.0003862 = 3.8589 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11326 @ 0.0003859 = 4.3707 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3989 @ 0.00038585 = 1.5392 BTC [-]
smickles: he basically said that he has an army setup to ensure that the convention goes smoothly too
EmanuelDeOrtego: Tampa is a dump in general
EmanuelDeOrtego: Florida as well
copumpkin: Tampa has Bern's steakhouse
copumpkin: main redeeming factor
mircea_popescu: you have steaks on planet sputnik ?!
smickles: lolwut? how is the republican convention part of the teh democratic process? it's a bunchof representitives!
Doffx: Pirate said something somewhere jcpham?
jcpham: what was the glbse asset for in gpumax yes
jcpham: what the crap
jcpham: holy run on sentence
smickles: there's a glbse asset for gpumax?
mircea_popescu: gpumax still exists ?!
jcpham: there's no glbse asset for gpumax
Doffx: yeah and still paying out too
jcpham: yeah he was saying payments were going out at midnight today
jcpham: still have purchases in the system to run
Doffx: Where did he mention that?
mircea_popescu: i don't see why it still would run, no more coins to launder.
jcpham: <pirateat40> Hey guys, payments will go out at midnight for all the purchases run up till today. We are trying to get all the purchases out of the system that need to be run. If you have a purchase pending or paused please contact us at support@gpumax.com so we can investigate it or issue a refund. Thanks.
smickles: i went to a decent dueling piano dive in florida once, but i was drunk, so it may not have been all that good
Doffx: Oh, for gpumax
jcpham: our questions alll questioned the wording "need"
jcpham: <pirateat40> Cause we have a ton of pending purchases with either bad pool info or issues with missing tiny amounts of payment.
JWU_42: thanks for that jcpham
jcpham: sure thing
JWU_42: had posted in #gpumax and wasn't sure what was going on
jcpham: my bad i see now
jcpham: the goatse turned me off
JWU_42: ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27187 @ 0.00038585 = 10.4901 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00038537 = 1.079 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8974 @ 0.00038431 = 3.4488 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10644 @ 0.00096687 = 10.2914 BTC [+]
jcpham: what is the name of the glbse asset smickles
jcpham: the mpex one
jcpham: mpoe.etf?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 10 @ 1.04999999 = 10.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 3 @ 1.04999999 = 3.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 7 @ 1.05 = 7.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.5-10.MININGBOND] 40 @ 0.7 = 28 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: -buttrapedat40- * \ \_-~ ~-_\ | * http://goo.gl/vOslB
PsychoticBoy: -buttrapedat40- g \_ \ _.--------.______\| | g http://goo.gl/vOslB
PsychoticBoy: -buttrapedat40- o \ \______// _ ___ _ (_(__> \ | o http://goo.gl/vOslB
PsychoticBoy: -buttrapedat40- a \ . C ___) ______ (_(____> | / a http://goo.gl/vOslB
PsychoticBoy: -buttrapedat40- t /\ | C ____)/ \ (_____> |_/ t http://goo.gl/vOslB
PsychoticBoy: -buttrapedat40- s / /\| C_____) | (___> / \ s http://goo.gl/vOslB
PsychoticBoy: -buttrapedat40- e | ( _C_____)\______/ // _/ / \ e http://goo.gl/vOslB
PsychoticBoy: -buttrapedat40- * | \ |__ \\_________// (__/ | * http://goo.gl/vOslB
PsychoticBoy: -buttrapedat40- g | \ \____) `---- --' | g http://goo.gl/vOslB
PsychoticBoy: -buttrapedat40- o | \_ ___\ /_ _/ | o http://goo.gl/vOslB
PsychoticBoy: -buttrapedat40- a | / | | \ | a http://goo.gl/vOslB
PsychoticBoy: -buttrapedat40- t | | / \ \ | t http://goo.gl/vOslB
PsychoticBoy: lol
copumpkin: PsychoticBoy: good job
copumpkin: kakobrekla: you need more ops in here :P
mircea_popescu: meh. kinda stupid.
mircea_popescu: weren't you trying to get some fund going PsychoticBoy ?
kakobrekla: no, i like drama.
PsychoticBoy: yep
copumpkin: kakobrekla: alright
PsychoticBoy: why
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: bad approach.
EmanuelDeOrtego: America was never Democratic
EmanuelDeOrtego: Sorry
EmanuelDeOrtego: that was typed in my field
PsychoticBoy: what you mean mircea?
kakobrekla: for the record, nano was given op rights just the other day
mircea_popescu: PsychoticBoy i mean, dun be spamming irc.
PsychoticBoy: I dont spam
kakobrekla: so if you think im mis-judging, bug him as well
EmanuelDeOrtego: "buttrapedat40" I lol'd
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30026 @ 0.00038431 = 11.5393 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13311 @ 0.00038422 = 5.1144 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: I dont like pirateat40 and his fooling around
copumpkin: so you spam an unrelated channel with unpleasant imagery?
copumpkin: good job
PsychoticBoy: 1 image isnt spamming, I was reacting at jcpham`s conversation
smickles: jcpham: mpoe.etf is the mpex fund on glbs
kakobrekla: 1 image repeated 20 times or so?
mircea_popescu: just... you know... put it in a pastebin and link us.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.115 = 2.875 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: one would have been enough
PsychoticBoy: when?
kakobrekla: when what
PsychoticBoy: when was I spamming? only 5 min ago 1 image
PsychoticBoy: me and my big mouth ;)
kakobrekla: http://shrani.si/f/3x/Lm/1JstYDwZ/asciifailspam.png
PsychoticBoy: yep that was 1 time and 1 time only
PsychoticBoy: ok now I know image posting is considered as spam
mircea_popescu: i like kakobrekla's terminal
PsychoticBoy: no more images then
mircea_popescu: good idea.
PsychoticBoy: thanks, no prob
mircea_popescu: and to celebrate, http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134618198144.jpg
EmanuelDeOrtego: When did Bitcointalk become all anarcho-capitalists?
jcpham: i apologize if i brought it here
jcpham: i thought everyone knew what i was talking about
mircea_popescu: well the only commie is now here EmanuelDeOrtego
EmanuelDeOrtego: why am i looking at this porn
jcpham: dopamine addiction
PsychoticBoy: lol
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego you enjoy watching the suffering of others ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 250 @ 0.00025 = 0.0625 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1149 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00038646 = 0.0773 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7268 @ 0.00038743 = 2.8158 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.1149 = 2.298 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 5 @ 1.4 = 7 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 4 @ 0.2097 = 0.8388 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.1149 = 0.6894 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15986 @ 0.00039042 = 6.2413 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 10 @ 0.1379 = 1.379 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.1149 = 1.149 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5658 @ 0.00096354 = 5.4517 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1543 @ 0.00096016 = 1.4815 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 4 @ 0.55 = 2.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 4 @ 0.2098 = 0.8392 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 4 @ 0.2097 = 0.8388 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0034 = 0.068 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.2097 = 0.4194 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7740 @ 0.00039492 = 3.0567 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4942 @ 0.0003952 = 1.9531 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13718 @ 0.00039585 = 5.4303 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15000 @ 0.00094917 = 14.2376 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4400 @ 0.00095017 = 4.1807 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3900 @ 0.00093667 = 3.653 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.BTCST.PPT] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.2003 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.2002 = 0.6006 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6582 @ 0.00039585 = 2.6055 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28518 @ 0.00039592 = 11.2908 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 12 @ 0.45 = 5.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 10 @ 0.45 = 4.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 2 @ 0.55 = 1.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 5 @ 1.59 = 7.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 4 @ 1.6 = 6.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11276 @ 0.00039451 = 4.4485 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0033 = 3.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 51 @ 0.0033 = 0.1683 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.11489 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 4 @ 0.139 = 0.556 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.24 = 0.72 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.245 = 2.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.2499 = 1.7493 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: I'm selling my Satoshi Dice for .0033
smickles: EmanuelDeOrtego: do you plan to buy at a lower price?
EmanuelDeOrtego: I am just uncertain.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8740 @ 0.00095017 = 8.3045 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: It's not selling like I want it o
EmanuelDeOrtego: to*
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 65 @ 0.06 = 3.9 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: If it rallies, that's great.
EmanuelDeOrtego: I just don't believe in it quite yet.
smickles: !ticker s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0033 / 0.00334643 / 0.0034 (412358 shares, 1,379.93 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00324614 / 0.0034 (2762263 shares, 8,966.71 BTC)
smickles: 2.7 out of 10 eh?
smickles: O_o what a name
BTC-Mining: EmanuelDeOrtego, I'd leave it some time, for the first divs + new design to be implemented
smickles: BTC-Mining: do you have some shares?
BTC-Mining: About 50k
smickles: s.dice is interesting if nothing else
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC [-]
smickles: still, even at .003~ that around a 19% yeild, and seemingly lower risk than other bitcoin ventures i'm aware of
smickles: *expected yeild
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.0032 = 1.6 BTC [-]
smickles: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.91, Best ask: 10.999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08900, Last trade: 10.999, 24 hour volume: 66047, 24 hour low: 10.5, 24 hour high: 11.20999
EmanuelDeOrtego: With Bitcoin volumes going lower and lower at $20 and below
EmanuelDeOrtego: I rather have Bitcoins than Satoshi Dice shares
EmanuelDeOrtego: We might be hitting $100+ soon
EmanuelDeOrtego: and I don't want to be sitting on Satoshi Dice when that happens
mircea_popescu: isn't being an investor great ? :D
EmanuelDeOrtego: It's good until American Banker starts covering Bitcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19624 @ 0.00039053 = 7.6638 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 10 @ 0.00025 = 0.0025 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0032 = 0.064 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Oh god, there goes there "I'm going to buy 60 cents worth of shares" crowd again.
EmanuelDeOrtego: the&*
smickles: *star eyed* if we hit 100 per btc, i'm gonna get drunk
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.2797 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 9 @ 0.2798 = 2.5182 BTC [+]
smickles: good old, 'merican style drunk too
assbot: [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 5 @ 0.081 = 0.405 BTC [-]
smickles: like i'll need to throw a party as anexcuse