bitfoo: because the claimed daily average is ~ 5K BTC
smickles: if that addy is the only way to deposit, then yeah, seems most is leveraged
smickles: rdponticelli: each person gets custom tailored margin
smickles: i haven't asked for it, so i can't give an example
rdponticelli: It seems that some must have some "generous" leverage
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.9001 = 3.6004 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.9 = 9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.89 = 1.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.88 = 1.76 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 7 @ 0.87521 = 6.1265 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.8752 = 8.752 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.875 = 4.375 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.8702 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 28 @ 0.861 = 24.108 BTC [-]
smickles: rdponticelli: it'd be a good question to put to mircea_popescu, how come only 9k has been sent to the deposti addy
bitfoo: if the forum FUDders hear about this there will be a riot :P
rdponticelli: ;;later tell mircea_popescu <smickles> rdponticelli: it'd be a good question to put to mircea_popescu, how come only 9k has been sent to the deposti addy
smickles: i'd bet, that if you were going to deposite a large amount, and didn't want it public knowledge
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0034 = 0.0102 BTC [+]
smickles: mircea_popescu would generate you an addy
bitfoo: ^ yeah, that's the most likely explanation
bitfoo: I'd rather he used individual addresses anyway. It's cheap enough to generate them.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.4099 = 2.4594 BTC [-]
rdponticelli: But for large deposits. Otherwise, again, not worth the hassle :D
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.9799 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RSM] 3 @ 0.299 = 0.897 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 4 @ 0.15398 = 0.6159 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P080N] 3 @ 0.09423653 = 0.2827 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-A] 3 @ 0.1 = 0.3 BTC [+]
smickles: ciuciu: very doubtfull that the one addy is used for all deposits
smickles: ciuciu: then also consider that margin would be included in the daily average
gribble: #9826 Sat Aug 25 13:45:41 2012 smickles BUY 244.0 mpexbtc @ 244 mpexbtc (I have a deposit in the works, but would like to make an order now, so I'm looking for someone to float me some mpexbtc)
smickles: ciuciu: would you seriously doubt an explanation would come when the question asked?
smickles: what sort of verification do you expect?
smickles: the reason there would be other deposit addys is to keep deposits from public knowledge
smickles: as in, i don't want it publicly know that i'm sending 5k btc to mpex, so give me a nonstandard deposit address
smickles: if mircea_popescu betrayed one of thos addresses, it would spoil the idea
smickles: ciuciu: no, but in this case, how can you verify the information?
smickles: and the satoshi client does not allow you to easily control a sendfrom address, so checking withdrawals probably wouldn't work
smickles: ciuciu: afaik, verification of information only works when it's possible to verify
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00037531 = 7.7314 BTC [-]
smickles: it's kinda silly to ask for verification and not know how that information can be verified
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [-]
smickles: rdponticelli: prolly already started
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 4 @ 0.12818 = 0.5127 BTC [+]
smickles: only because you think he and the pr chick are the same person
smickles: JohnSmith777: ciuciu accusing mircea_popescu of lying again
smickles: myself and a couple otheres were discussing things
rdponticelli: Nothing but witch hunts on the forums latrly :S
smickles: most of the top threads are of that ilk
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.8616 = 3.4464 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.8615 = 1.723 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.861 = 1.722 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0034 = 0.0068 BTC [+]
bitfoo: if you look at the spends on the public address, you'll see that it's mixed up with other addresses that have received way more
bitfoo: so there's verifiable proof that it's not only 9k
bitfoo: fuck, what did I start now? :P
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 3000 @ 0.0034 = 10.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.10699999 = 0.321 BTC [+]
smickles: bitfoo: it could be that he sends withdrawals from another wallet
bitfoo: the first address is the public one
bitfoo: but it mixes funds from others which have received 20K btc
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 5 @ 1.6 = 8 BTC [-]
smickles: bitfoo: however, since at least one tx is that way, ...
smickles: so there we go, it would seem no need to even ask now
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 5 @ 0.00989 = 0.0495 BTC [-]
bitfoo: yeah, I'm reasonably convinced there are private deposit addresses
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.0898 = 0.8082 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 1 @ 0.00399 BTC [+]
JohnSmith777: Okay, what are some worthwhile investments on the GLBSE?
bitfoo: has the bot been doing well?
JohnSmith777: It had a decent dividend but it won't be consistent
bitfoo: there's not much sell depth to it anyway
JohnSmith777: I bought at 1.0 and sold at 1.5 for a nice profit
bitfoo: but not much volume I'm guessing
smickles: well, JohnSmith777 i'd like to make sure you are aware of the things i'm involved in
bitfoo: does ss have pirate exposure?
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.8599 BTC [-]
smickles: so if he runs, ss's insurances will kick in
assbot: [GLBSE:GIGAMINING] [Bid: 0.84] [Ask: 0.9799] [Spread: 0.1399] [Last: 0.9799] [24hVol: 322.58211666] [7dAvg: 0.98714979]
BTCHero: I have 1 whole share of ss
bitfoo: wait, you guys contradict each other
Azelphur: bitfoo: I have like 230 shares out of 750
bitfoo: oh, so all = 230/750 :P
JohnSmith777: I believe in Erik so I am going invest in some Satoshi Dice
Azelphur: bitfoo: I'm the guy with the 200@2.8 on there haha
bitfoo: yeah, I remember some meme about that
BTCHero: 30 of them he won't sell for any price
Azelphur: I bought the entire second issuance
Azelphur: speaking of which, I have dividends just sitting in GLBSE
smickles: once this pirate thing settles, imsaguy and i will get the NAV of SS bact to where that 2.8 will fill
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.09978999 = 0.2994 BTC [+]
Azelphur: smickles: then you need to do another issuance at 2.5 :p
Azelphur: so I can continue this funny buy at 1, sell at 2.5, buy at 2, sell at 2.8 loop
smickles: no, we're prolly going to issue a bond, rather than more shares in ss
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1600 @ 0.0034 = 5.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.0034 = 0.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.56 = 1.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+]
JohnSmith777: People are underestimating Satoshi Dice and it just took a massive plunge.
JohnSmith777: Thus I buy with an expectation to sell higher.
smickles: JohnSmith777: well, that's because the glbse thing is just a passthru
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 846 @ 0.00102152 = 0.8642 BTC [-]
smickles: on mpex, it's still (and always has been) selling for .0032
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8300 @ 0.00102165 = 8.4797 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4391 @ 0.00102409 = 4.4968 BTC [+]
smickles: today 5 million more shares will be issued at .0034
smickles: and tomorrow, 3 million more at .0036]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-A] 134 @ 0.1 = 13.4 BTC [+]
smickles: and only a very small amout has sold for over .0032
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00037637 = 4.2906 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00037951 = 0.4934 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: I issue and sell more shares as the once I have put up sells out.
DeaDTerra: I want to make sure I keep the backing on a good level
usagi: Why the hell are millions of shartes being created when each one is worth less than a penny
usagi: Whats with the sub-bitcent ipos, seriously
DeaDTerra: that'w how MPex works share value is in Satoshi :P
usagi: It's actually kind of annoying
usagi: It doesn't matter how it internally represents the share price
JohnSmith777: I think Evoorhees thinking is that it will help liquidity.
smickles: i dunno, something about how mircea likes it
usagi: I don't see the connection
smickles: and if bitcoin 'takes off' a > 1 btc share would be outrageous
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0898 BTC [-]
JohnSmith777: They would just have to sell it at a lower decimal point
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.8599 = 4.2995 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 45 @ 0.86 = 38.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.0898 = 0.9878 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0898 = 0.3592 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: Good night guys, don't let the impostor get you ;)
DeaDTerra: I have done it already I am not stupid :P
DeaDTerra: And locked it so you get auto kicked if you don't auth
BTC-Mining: Also, if anyone has shares with no volume to sell down into, query me, might be interested to buy them at a discount
evoorhees: FYI - to address the comment from before, the number of shares is totally irrelevant, it's just a matter of notation. 1m, 10m, or 100m shares... doesn't matter. All that matters is price per share X total shares. 100m is a nice round number so I chose it.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.48999999 = 4.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.49 = 1.96 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.4451 = 2.6706 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: You value yourself as over 1/70th of all bitcoins that will ever be created... ~340000 - 350000 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6300 @ 0.00102409 = 6.4518 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Which is also over 1/30th of the current bitcoins in existence
evoorhees: Well SD is currently over 1/2 of all transactions... just sayin
kakobrekla: which is really fuckin blockchain size
BTC-Mining: It's just that bitcoins going mainstream would probably kill your ratio
evoorhees: if bitcoin can't adapt to handle 100 satoshidice's, it will fail
evoorhees: kill the ratio, yes, but not kill the profitability
evoorhees: SD has exposed a weakness of BTC and BTC will get fixed
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.4099 = 2.4594 BTC [-]
evoorhees: that the block sizes are too big, and the data needs trimming
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.0898 = 4.041 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: If data storage and transfer capabilities keep increasing at this rate...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00039052 = 0.0781 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13318 @ 0.00039114 = 5.2092 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: I doubt the extra block sizes would ever matter... but yeah I wouldn't mind trimming of data
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0898 = 0.3592 BTC [-]
evoorhees: but lots of people are upset about the traffic from SD
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 20 @ 0.338 = 6.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.84121 = 3.3648 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 3 @ 0.841 = 2.523 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.84 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 67 @ 0.0034 = 0.2278 BTC [+]
JohnSmith777: evoorhees: If the Bitcoin network can't handle Satoshi Dice, it wasn't fit for the future.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39840 @ 0.00039105 = 15.5794 BTC [-]
rg: it'll get fixed, bitcoin-dev need to get off their asses and work with evoorhees
BTC-Mining: I thought the main issue people had was that the whole blockchain took too large and long to download...
rg: rg - proud satoshidice user
BTC-Mining: The block size doesn't seem bad currently
rg: the load time is pretty ridic
rg: the blockchain as a concept is cool
rg: but its implimentation is not
rg: but its better this shit gets worked out now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8360 @ 0.00039105 = 3.2692 BTC [-]
rg: imagine if bitcoin got really popular
rg: and the amount of transactions we have were the normal number
evoorhees: SD isn't really an issue now, but it exposes how close we are to running into some issuues
rg: evoorhees: i think that in another 6-12 months
evoorhees: in any case, these problems are all fixable
rg: it'd be a real big issue
evoorhees: SD just makes the devs fix it sooner instead of a year or two later
rg: im curious what they've got in store to fix the blockchain size
evoorhees: the blockchain size doesn't need to change - it's the block size that does
evoorhees: because that's what keeps stacking up
rg: since most people pay a lot of tx fee for satoshidice
evoorhees: and also, people should expect that everyone using BTC will use the desktop client
rg: isnt SD technically better for miners
rg: since fees will be incl in the block
rg: pushing it over 50 btc
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 3 @ 0.122 = 0.366 BTC [-]
BTCHero: Luke-Jr: won't process SD transactions
BTC-Mining: I don't see any issues with the blockchain size either
rg: asking someone whos new to bitcoin to download a program plus a 2GB block of data
BTCHero: BTC-Mining: you haven't started from scratch recently im sure :)
rg: to send an unpopular psuedo-currency
rg: its kind of a lot to ask..
evoorhees: so far, SD has paid over 550btc in fees
evoorhees: the players have paid roughly that amount also
rg: dont you mena your users paid it
evoorhees: so like 1100btc in four months in fees
assbot: [GLBSE] [JTME] 4 @ 0.95 = 3.8 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: i dont think that many pools pay out fees but yeah
rg: not all pools make $1000/day
rg: so its better to keep em running
rg: even though pools break the idea of btc
BTC-Mining: Most modern games take more than that on a computer to run
BTCHero: BTC-Mining: but it is when you can't download it at full speed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8340 @ 0.00038787 = 3.2348 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10455 @ 0.00039114 = 4.0894 BTC [+]
rg: when you connect to a bunch of DSLs
rg: that's why i always connect to the bitvps node
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00039253 = 11.5796 BTC [+]
rg: at least i wont be limited by dl speed
rg: we made herbal brownies today!
rg: i havent tried one cause itll make me fall aseep
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 2 @ 1.6 = 3.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.0691 = 0.2073 BTC [-]
jcpham: i make the best brownies
rg: we made a ton fo butter too
rg: i was like brostaff we need a cheesecloth
rg: otherwise the coffee filters are gonna filter out the other shit
rg: i dont know how it came out
BTCHero: coffee filters wouldn't filter out the good shit, but i imagine running butter through a coffee filter was insanely slow/didn't work
usagi: the issue imo is that satoshidice should offer a less direct service
BTCHero: usagi: but that is what it has going for it
BTCHero: if you mean having accounts and not so many txns
usagi: Do they really need to have games with maximum bets of 0.05
Luke-Jr: rg: no, because including SD comes with a huge risk of orphaned blocks, losing both the fees AND the 50 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 6 @ 0.4499 = 2.6994 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 5 @ 0.45 = 2.25 BTC [+]
Luke-Jr: rg: because Satoshi's code is buggy and not simple to fix for 0.7
Luke-Jr: big blocks = minutes to propagate the p2p network
Luke-Jr: since every node must download the whole block, then verify every signature in it, before they will even START uploading it to the next node
rg: evoorhees: we're gonna have to take you out
rg: im sorry you had to find out this way
rg: luke-jr : rally the bitcoin militia
evoorhees: SD cannot be defeated, it has achieved self-awareness
rg: we're going to assasinate evoorhes
rg: for the good of bitcoin
rg: that's what you were saying, right?
evoorhees: that's almost like printing money to help the economy ;)
rg: well we gotta assasinate someone
rg: hes the satoshidice guy
rg: mabye we can get one of your children in on it
rg: they gotta learn sometime
Luke-Jr: SatoshiDice is nothing but a DDoS attack on Bitcoin abusing gamblers to finance its attack
rg: satoshidice should work fine
Luke-Jr: rg: no, Bitcoin is not meant to scale before it's adopted.
rg: luke-jr: but dont you see the problem with that
Luke-Jr: and it's not meant for microtransactions in general
rg: bitcoin is supposed to get huge and run on an ancient platform?
rg: we should fix the problems now
rg: while its just a bunch of nerds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6394 @ 0.00039332 = 2.5149 BTC [+]
rg: i dont want to hear any of that free market shit in here.
Azelphur: I agree with rg really, it was gonna get big one day
Luke-Jr: rg: great, I agree that bug needs to be fixed
Azelphur: and the blockchain is only gonna get bigger
Luke-Jr: but when you find a bug accidentally, you don't CONTINUE TO EXPLOIT IT
rg: hes not exploiting it
rg: if it continued to run witout intervention, it would cause an issue
rg: but right now.. its like global warming
rg: but its not killing us yet
Luke-Jr: rg: it's killing pools that accept their transactions
rg: maybe some animals and glaciers and shit
rg: i havent heard any complaints
rg: which pools are bitching?
Luke-Jr: then you're not payign attention
rg: the more bad blocks hat are gouing to be found
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0898 BTC [-]
JohnSmith777: that private companies have reduced their emissions
JohnSmith777: now I am not here to advocate FREE MARKETS!!!111 and Murray Rothbard
JohnSmith777: but reality shows when something becomes a significant problem for most people
Obsi: through mass extinction
JohnSmith777: We might as well throw in the towel if we can't survive without becoming somebody's pet project
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.45 = 0.9 BTC [+]
Luke-Jr: evoorhees: if you're really NOT trying to kill Bitcoin, how about hiring a developer to fix this problem?
Luke-Jr: evoorhees: Satoshi's p2p code is all synchronous, so it will mostly need to be significantly refactored to do it..
evoorhees: honestly I don't know enough about coding, or the problems involved, to even know where to start
Obsi: I'm in for a few BTC donation to make the network more robust.
Luke-Jr: well, that's why it'd make sense to hire someone who already develops for Bitcoin
evoorhees: Luke-Jr - if you have a recommendation, I'd like to hear it
Luke-Jr: JohnSmith777: no, because any miner who accepts the transactions loses all fees plus subsidy
evoorhees: can you PM me on the forum and we can discuss?
Luke-Jr: evoorhees: I don't really like the forums. Perhaps ask in #bitcoin-dev ?
BTCHero: Luke-Jr: and evoorhees are friends now :)
evoorhees: I'm friends with everyone in bitcoinworld
rg: you just like them cause they gave you $40k
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 56 @ 0.0898 = 5.0288 BTC [-]
evoorhees: but let's count what I've given them as well, shall we ;)
JohnSmith777: evoorhees: You guys at BitInstant need to get your site at the top of Google's "Bitcoin" search results.
JohnSmith777: Marketing on Bitcoin is really stagnant right now.
JohnSmith777: Bitcoin.org is really conservative and stuck in geek land.
evoorhees: the marketing we're doing is business relationships being built with the normal world
evoorhees: but very exciting stuff is happening
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 76250 @ 0.0032 = 244 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.00320167 / 0.003232 (1966687 shares, 6,296.70 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00320167 / 0.003232 (1966687 shares, 6,296.70 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 33313 @ 0.0032 = 106.6016 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.0031] [Ask: 0.0034] [Spread: 0.0003] [Last: 0.0034] [24hVol: 819.333953] [7dAvg: 0.00400594]
smickles: that 33313 was the last of teh 32's
usagi: the quickest way to kill bitcoin is to build bridges to the "real world"
JohnSmith777: It's amazing how much activity a profitable company gets.
smickles: mircea_popescu: you can prolly ignore that bit about the deposits
usagi: Build the wrong bridge and they'll seize your server
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli not everyone pays to the standard address. some people ask for separate ones, for w/e reason. sometimes there's compensations related to margins that don't even register on the blockchain. etc.
usagi: It doesn't matter where it is lol
evoorhees: usagi I can't explain how strongly I disagree with you :)
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.6 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: bitfoo the disadvantage is that any generated address you're stuck with forevar.
usagi: Yes you can, you are making lots of $ so you disagree
usagi: But as soon as you start dealing with real world companies and lawyers you open yourself up to getting screwed in ways you can't imagine now
evoorhees: I'm happy to take on that risk, to keep making bitcoin bigger
usagi: If you get sued you will lose everything
mircea_popescu: <JohnSmith777> I believe in Erik so I am going invest in some Satoshi Dice << wise man :D
usagi: The very first thing they will do is establish a dollar value for your bitcoins
mircea_popescu: <usagi> Why the hell are millions of shartes being created when each one is worth less than a penny << same reason billions of satoshis are created, neh ?
evoorhees: and how many bitcoins do I have? :)
usagi: Dunno, how much $ is your company worth?
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2010 @ 0.00102409 = 2.0584 BTC [+]
usagi: If you include the value of your bitcoins in it you will have a big problem one day :)
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12190 @ 0.00102564 = 12.5026 BTC [+]
evoorhees: well... I'm not going to stop moving forward with Bitcoin just because I might have big problems one day
evoorhees: revolutions are not won by being timid and careful
BTC-Mining: seize a computer with wallet by force and you can seize bitcoins by force...
usagi: Neither are they won by making deals with the enemy
usagi: If you're making inroads with real world companies you will have big issues and soon
mircea_popescu: <Luke-Jr> SatoshiDice is nothing but a DDoS attack on Bitcoin abusing gamblers to finance its attack :D
evoorhees: usagi - you fundamentally misunderstand the power of Bitcoin
evoorhees: you're worried about "normal world" corrupting it? :)
usagi: For one, how are you going to explain that your company has sold a portion of itself on a virtual stock exchange? If you ever IPO'd for real or made a deal with a real world company those shares would become garbage
evoorhees: they should be worried about bitcoinworld "corrupting" theirs
evoorhees: the most efficient money system will win
JohnSmith777: Evoorhees will probably only IPO in Bitcoins from here forward.
mircea_popescu: <usagi> Build the wrong bridge and they'll seize your server << the guy is paranoid with publicity, let me tell you.
mircea_popescu: had me kaibosh all sorts of otherwise good deals cause "not the right kind of attention"
usagi: Well maybe I misunderstood what you said about making deals with "real world companies"
usagi: Cuz once they get their hooks in you, you're finished
evoorhees: SD is not making deals with real world companies
usagi: [08:44:56] <evoorhees> the marketing we're doing is business relationships being built with the normal world
usagi: Thats another problem
usagi: Doing a deal with mastercard is insanity
usagi: You'll see what I mean later when it blows up.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0898 = 0.449 BTC [-]
evoorhees: we're building infrastructure that is allowing the normal world economy to start merging into a Bitcoin world
usagi: This isn't the first time I've seen this siruation repeat itself.
usagi: It always looks cool until its over
evoorhees: we're not asking for your help in doing this, but I'm suprized at the antagonism
usagi: It's not antagonism, it's a warning :>
usagi: I bought a lot of shares of your company already
mircea_popescu: but i mean... you ever done deals wirth mastercard usagi ?
evoorhees: what's the warning exactly? That normal companies might try to harm Bitcoin?
evoorhees: I'm don't think Bitcoin is as weak as you do
BTC-Mining: usagi... you can't regulate bitcoins...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00039273 = 8.1295 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: building bridges so people can exchange value BTC <-> Fiat is good.
evoorhees: once the bridge is built, the better side of the bridge will be accessable
JohnSmith777: Make enough people in the real world dependent on Bitcoins
BTC-Mining: But bitcoins company might not benefit that much from dealing with regulated markets directly
BTC-Mining: Only exchanges that want to deal BTC/Fiat get to do that
mircea_popescu: i guess the day all whores take btc is the day corrupt politicians ask for btc
mircea_popescu: and in order to get whores on btc you need to get casinos on btc
evoorhees: well in any case, inagi, it's good that people have a wide array of opinions on how to "advance" bitcoin
evoorhees: it means we'll all try different things
evoorhees: there's no monotonous plan that may fail.... but thousands of people working in different directions
evoorhees: 95% of their plans won't go anywhere
evoorhees: but 5% will, and the system will grow and grow
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0034 = 3.4 BTC [+]
evoorhees: been drinking here with some other bitcoiners
sgornick: Had all 2 million from round 1 sold?
usagi: You need to be careful because some of these companies will do a deal with you with the intent to take you out
mircea_popescu: im sorry, did i accidentally email everyone everyone's email ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00039273 = 3.7702 BTC [-]
evoorhees: moneyisdebt - your name is wrong :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 350 @ 0.00344946 = 1.2073 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 68 @ 0.0034631 = 0.2355 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 443 @ 0.00352451 = 1.5614 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 339 @ 0.00375 = 1.2713 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.00320032 / 0.0034 (608044 shares, 1,945.94 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00320174 / 0.0034 (2001000 shares, 6,406.70 BTC)
sgornick: Any way I can do !ticker in a PM w/ gribble to get that?
BTC-Mining: No, those legs seems disproportionate with the rest of her body. That's some huge thights.
JohnSmith777: evoorhees: Could a price of say $1000 a Bitcoin do damage to your IPO?
mircea_popescu: sgornick it's assbot not gribble and i dont think it does pms yet
JohnSmith777: evoorhees: Will people bet less and less as the price goes up?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5100 @ 0.0034 = 17.34 BTC [+]
evoorhees: a world where btc is $1000 each is a world where the bitcoin economy is booming, tons of money flowing around
evoorhees: if SD maintained a leading position in the market, it'd be making FAR higher dollar amounts, but not necessarily higher BTC amounts
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 18 @ 0.0034 = 0.0612 BTC [+]
markac: mircea_popescu: "evoorhees" (nl to en, translate.google.com)
markac: mircea_popescu: "voorhees" (en to en, translate.google.com)
markac: mircea_popescu: "voorhees" (nl to en, translate.google.com)
evoorhees: John - thus far, when price rose from the $5's to the $10s and higher, SD volume actually grew nominally in BTC
evoorhees: this might be a fluke, but at least thus far, the rising price has not lowered the amount of BTC bet
mircea_popescu: evoorhees your volume grew no matter what. if there was an ipo it grew, when btc went up it grew, it's a sickness.
BTC-Mining: when does it gets launched by the way?
evoorhees: it is dynamic - the stats and figures will update in real time as it's played
evoorhees: it will be kinda fun to just watch the page
evoorhees: new site will be launched in first half of september
Luke-Jr: it really is tempting to double-spend SD sometimes
mircea_popescu: evoorhees one ideea might be to introduce themed days. sorta like google
MoneyIsDebt: mircea_popescu: Just like you do with mpex site :D
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 15 @ 0.0691 = 1.0365 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 10 @ 1 = 10 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 21 @ 1.0399 = 21.8379 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 37 @ 1.04 = 38.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 4 @ 1.1 = 4.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 100 @ 1.08 = 108 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1500 @ 0.0034 = 5.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 175 @ 0.0034 = 0.595 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0034 = 0.017 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0034 = 0.0068 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 10 @ 0.069 = 0.69 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 15 @ 0.06558 = 0.9837 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 8 @ 0.0652 = 0.5216 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 6 @ 0.07 = 0.42 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0898 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 42 @ 0.065 = 2.73 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 50 @ 0.062 = 3.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 44 @ 0.0034 = 0.1496 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.0001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9600 @ 0.00102266 = 9.8175 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4771 @ 0.00102564 = 4.8933 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0034 = 1.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0898 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 43 @ 0.0109 = 0.4687 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 93 @ 1 = 93 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 4 @ 0.011 = 0.044 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 10 @ 0.012 = 0.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.0109 = 0.0327 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.013 = 0.026 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.031 = 0.062 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: What's up with puremining? There was already orders for over 0.0001
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0898 = 0.898 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: The 0.0001 shouldn't have been sold in =/
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.021 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16490 @ 0.00039332 = 6.4858 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26410 @ 0.00039332 = 10.3876 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0898 = 0.5388 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00039273 = 0.4713 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.00039238 = 10.3981 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.029 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 5 @ 0.0506 = 0.253 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.031 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10699999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.047 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 13 @ 0.0506 = 0.6578 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.051 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3381 @ 0.00039238 = 1.3266 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2919 @ 0.00039168 = 1.1433 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38044 @ 0.00039168 = 14.9011 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8456 @ 0.00039051 = 3.3022 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: I even had an order over it which wasn't filled
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00039095 = 0.0782 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7926 @ 0.00039051 = 3.0952 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.055 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.0599 = 0.1198 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 239 @ 0.00102564 = 0.2451 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6000 @ 0.00102632 = 6.1579 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.3403 = 0.6806 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 15 @ 0.3402 = 5.103 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 6 @ 0.34 = 2.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 15 @ 0.33502 = 5.0253 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 100 @ 1.04 = 104 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.3403 = 0.6806 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 15 @ 0.3402 = 5.103 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.33 = 3.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 23 @ 0.34 = 7.82 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 6 @ 0.31 = 1.86 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 15 @ 0.338 = 5.07 BTC [-]
gribble: Best bid: 10.5336, Best ask: 10.618, Bid-ask spread: 0.08440, Last trade: 10.53572, 24 hour volume: 37252, 24 hour low: 10.2, 24 hour high: 10.6188
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.3381 = 0.6762 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090N] 2 @ 0.13805703 = 0.2761 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 5 @ 0.0095 = 0.0475 BTC [-]
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: you should use lower units for your btc deposits :<
Azelphur: I have 39.3 B and just tried to deposit 39, but it wants me to deposit 39.95 to identify haha
mircea_popescu: i guess should put a leading zero there one of these days
Azelphur: guess I'll have to deposit 38 lol
assbot: [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 1 @ 1 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.8999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10699999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.066 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.069 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.0732 = 0.1464 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.089 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [+]
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: diablo loves Ubuntu :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 11465 @ 0.0034 = 38.981 BTC [+]
JohnSmith777: Satoshi Dice has the potential to rule the Bitcoin world if it hoards enough coins.
BTC-Mining: Evoorhees/investors will probably sell those coins...
mircea_popescu: actually the fact that it's available for sale to the public eliminates that.
mircea_popescu: this is the first time i've geard "only 10%" in the process of this ipo
mircea_popescu: neither does Luke-Jr sell bitcoins. is his pool gonna take over btc too ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1657 @ 0.00039051 = 0.6471 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43400 @ 0.00039023 = 16.936 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14527 @ 0.00038918 = 5.6536 BTC [-]
JohnSmith777: Satoshi Dice on the other hand is very profitable.
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.00320692 / 0.0034 (404547 shares, 1,297.35 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00320303 / 0.0034 (2014009 shares, 6,450.93 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37186 @ 0.00038402 = 14.2802 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11814 @ 0.00038513 = 4.5499 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0897 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.08961 = 1.3442 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 39 @ 0.0896 = 3.4944 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 50 @ 0.09999999 = 5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.089799 = 2.694 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 57 @ 0.089799 = 5.1185 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i mean there's fucken IMF delegations going to see the govt of romania, aite ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 10 @ 1 = 10 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 8 @ 0.10600001 = 0.848 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.106 = 0.424 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1025 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 187 @ 0.1022 = 19.1114 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 13 @ 0.1022 = 1.3286 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 34 @ 0.1021 = 3.4714 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 32 @ 0.0034 = 0.1088 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 66 @ 0.1021 = 6.7386 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.100111 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 41 @ 0.09 = 3.69 BTC [+]
MoneyIsDebt: mircea_popescu: let's hope they're not coming to see you too ;)
mircea_popescu: why not ? i'd lend them some money if they pay good rates.
MoneyIsDebt: how many bitcoins to buy a greek island these days?
mircea_popescu: they change all eu constitutions to clearly state that there's a class of people who are immune from common law and extempt from taxation, i give them some money to keep on.
MoneyIsDebt: I must admit... Europe kicked more ass in feudal times
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 1 @ 0.50000002 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 1 @ 0.50000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.976 BTC [-]
MoneyIsDebt: and post kicking ass ... start kissing ass instead
kakobrekla: ha, just the opposite, sippin mornin coffee
mircea_popescu: read up, the part where mpex nao does comparably well to the romanian stock exchange
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-A] 1 @ 0.065 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 84 @ 0.16 = 13.44 BTC [-]
usagi: Aye, we're doing our best!
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.1089 = 0.4356 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: DeaDTerra: whats my 1btc worth now =P
usagi: Looks like we can keep paying 1.3% a week at current prices while slowly expanding
usagi: There are quite a few things I need to buy
usagi: 1.36? 1.19? well I am going by the published NAV of about .6
Diablo-D3: usagi: no, I have 1btc invested with DeaDTerra
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 200 @ 0.101 = 20.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.12817 = 0.2563 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE:DMC] [Bid: 0.04000001] [Ask: 0.06899999] [Spread: 0.02899998] [Last: 0.05] [24hVol: 20.096799] [7dAvg: 0.05458317]
usagi: I'm gonna place a couple of bids this week I guess
usagi: Problem is that DMC is 15% of NYAN.B
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 3 @ 0.989 = 2.967 BTC [-]
usagi: We're overweight DMC
usagi: Then again it's that good.
usagi: DMC saved our ass this week
usagi: Over 10% causes concern.
usagi: We have 3% in satoshidice now
usagi: Because we bought in at 0.111
usagi: and sold some at 0.05
usagi: We made 500% on DMC
usagi: We have 5000 shares of DMC and if it goes to 0.1 like it touched 0.1 this week... we'll be happy
usagi: It's the law of averages. Pirate crashes and somewhere somehow something jumps 100)%.
usagi: When did he say that thouh?
usagi: There's no reliable central news source goat.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 69 @ 0.102 = 7.038 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2941 @ 0.0034 = 9.9994 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: last word from pirate was he would pay
usagi: Yeah but what was the timeframe
usagi: Well it's reasonable
usagi: I mean 4-5 mil, it's reasonable to wait a cojuple of weeks
assbot: [GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.0032] [Ask: 0.0034] [Spread: 0.0002] [Last: 0.0034] [24hVol: 616.27545] [7dAvg: 0.00392753]
usagi: Consider YARR. Fully insured, but I can't just dump 2000bitcoins of mining bonds on the market
usagi: It would take me 2-3 weeks to sell out properly
usagi: But if he's stopping operations there is no profit from continuing operations
usagi: What date was that?
mircea_popescu: if you decided you close down next month, you'd take the 2-3 weeks to sell out orderly.
usagi: He did apparently pay smaller accounts
Chaang-Noi: one guy i know claims he got just over 10 btc from pirate
Chaang-Noi: pirate said he paid 11 accounts out under 800 btc
kakobrekla: he said he has like 30 or 50k personal coins
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 9 @ 0.997 = 8.973 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 7 @ 0.999 = 6.993 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: being a stand up man, those should go :)
usagi: I'm going to quote you goat
Chaang-Noi: pirate said he had 30k coins personal coins
Chaang-Noi: usagi maged posted the logs from bitcoin-otc
Chaang-Noi: if you start quoting me when you can look this up i will stop talking...
Chaang-Noi: i dont want you making it look like i know shit that is not public
usagi: Thanks for telling me your sources
usagi: Otherwise I would quote you.
usagi: Unless you asked me not to, maybe...
usagi: OOC what forum is that in?
Chaang-Noi: maged has been quoting pirate from irc
Chaang-Noi: the only thing i know that is not public is that one guy who made it public that he had been paid back told me in a message that he was paid back 10ish btc
usagi: Yeah but what forum on bitcointalk.org :> I'm guessing lending?
Chaang-Noi: so that one number is the only thing i know thats not public
usagi: Yeah someone named greysomething said he got paid back too but didn't want to say for how much
Chaang-Noi: ask maged where he but it, i was linked and dont have it now
usagi: Just hoping you had a link handy hehe
usagi: actually i'll post in a sec
Chaang-Noi: i dont know what you are doing but i get enough shit the way it is
usagi: Wow that took a lot longer than I thought lol there's a user named Maged_is_a_Douche
usagi: People look up to you
usagi: But I'm not going to quote you since it's not your quote anyway
usagi: hmm nothing for the past 3 days tho :/
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 6 @ 0.16 = 0.96 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 248000 @ 0.003375 = 837 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.97599 = 3.904 BTC [-]
usagi: Wow that took a lot longer than I thought
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 2 @ 0.8 = 1.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: He has identity crisis problems xD
mircea_popescu: <Chaang-Noi> i dont know what you are doing but i get enough shit the way it is << poor goat.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.102 = 0.612 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44586 @ 0.00038513 = 17.1714 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 442 @ 0.00038531 = 0.1703 BTC [+]
usagi: Serena is my english name
usagi: usagi is a Japanese name. It's to fit in better :p
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10000 @ 0.0034 = 34 BTC [+]
usagi: It's a popular Japanese name. For example there's a hotel named that, and a singer
usagi: You just think it's from sailor moon because that's the most poular export culture
DeaDTerra: but Usagi tsuknio is from salot moon ^^
usagi: There's also a popular legend about someone named this
usagi: The character in sailor moon just happens to use that name
Chaang-Noi: she knows what she is talking about, oh snap! :)
usagi: There's unofficial hentai for everything
usagi: Wow that's incredibly poorly drawn
mircea_popescu: it's funny : not only they hjave the exact same noses mouths eyebrows ertc
Chaang-Noi: send me some unofficail hentai please:)
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.10000004 = 10 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 380 @ 0.102 = 38.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 24 @ 0.102 = 2.448 BTC [+]
usagi: The entire series is a rip off of Magical Angel Creamy Mami, which created the magical girl series
usagi: MACM was actually pretty popular back in the day, it's the magical girl series for those around 40 now, whereas sailor moon is more popular with 20-40 year olds now, and todays youth watch pretty cure and others, i think
usagi: lol is he carrying a 40 in a brown paper bag?
Chaang-Noi: im seen some jap cartoon porn, crazy shit some times., with monsters and giant squid
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi that's not porn, that's video surveillance from japan.
Chaang-Noi: iv been to japan, but iv never seen that
Chaang-Noi: would be fun to watch a giant squid fuck 5 lolis at once...
mircea_popescu: it's a problem of supply and demand : lolis you'd find
nefario: mircea_popescu: who did you piss off?
mircea_popescu: nefario well i dunno. possibly cause you boys are not allowed to see 4chan ?
mircea_popescu: or else, i link to google docs thus being politically dubious.
MrTiggr: mircea_popescu: ^^ bots back, wzg back up
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.97599 = 4.88 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i never know if o/ is a kick in the balls or someone raising his arm to smack me over the head
MrTiggr: lol mircea_popescu - o/ is waving
MrTiggr: you could at least wave back \o
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.102 = 0.408 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00038364 = 6.3301 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.089799 = 0.449 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.089799 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.4011 = 2.4066 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 5 @ 0.401 = 2.005 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 500 @ 0.4 = 200 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.102 = 0.306 BTC [+]
usagi: haa haa haa goats on a boat
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.102 = 0.204 BTC [+]
usagi: I mean someone else made it besides one of us
Azelphur: Diablo-D3: I use it when wandering my house to stay on IRC and stuff
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3205 @ 0.00102941 = 3.2993 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3495 @ 0.00103072 = 3.6024 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31590 @ 0.0003835 = 12.1148 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 401 @ 0.00038175 = 0.1531 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153 @ 0.0003816 = 0.0584 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7460 @ 0.00102009 = 7.6099 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6400 @ 0.00101707 = 6.5092 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 17400 @ 0.00101668 = 17.6902 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5211 @ 0.00101192 = 5.2731 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5983 @ 0.00100427 = 6.0085 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10800 @ 0.00100218 = 10.8235 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1746 @ 0.00098625 = 1.722 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11254 @ 0.00098625 = 11.0993 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8737 @ 0.00097147 = 8.4877 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4648 @ 0.00097114 = 4.5139 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8500 @ 0.00097102 = 8.2537 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.0003816 = 0.4198 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 150 @ 0.0035514 = 0.5327 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35486 @ 0.0003816 = 13.5415 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13914 @ 0.00038128 = 5.3051 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34286 @ 0.00038531 = 13.2107 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PIMP] 20 @ 0.1699 = 3.398 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PIMP] 19 @ 0.17 = 3.23 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 6 @ 0.0799 = 0.4794 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.0799 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.6898 = 2.7592 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.133 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 5 @ 0.131 = 0.655 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 100 @ 0.13 = 13 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 200 @ 0.13 = 26 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.9299 = 3.7196 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35300 @ 0.0003801 = 13.4175 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00038002 = 6.0043 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 915 @ 0.00037952 = 0.3473 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.085 = 0.85 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 34 @ 0.07 = 2.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 65 @ 0.0799 = 5.1935 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 2 @ 0.08 = 0.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 14 @ 0.08999 = 1.2599 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 30150 @ 0.0034 = 102.51 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: current backing for GSDPT Shares sold: 268139 Backing Held:278008 S.DICE shares :)
DeaDTerra: I guess I can chill a bit with the purchasing of backing.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.A] 22 @ 0.90999 = 20.0198 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: yea I threw in some of my own BTC :)
DeaDTerra: remeber I calcualted something wrong so I had to throw in 20 of my own BTC into it.
DeaDTerra: it will balance it self out sooner or later :)
mircea_popescu: you know how they say, good accounting makes good stocks.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.101 = 1.01 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1000009 = 0.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 140 @ 0.10000004 = 14 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 250 @ 0.10000003 = 25 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.10000002 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.10000001 = 5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 450 @ 0.10000001 = 45 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3500 @ 0.1 = 350 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1000 @ 0.1 = 100 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1200 @ 0.00096532 = 1.1584 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7900 @ 0.00095946 = 7.5797 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1912 @ 0.00095898 = 1.8336 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 1 @ 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 888 @ 0.00095779 = 0.8505 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1612 @ 0.000967 = 1.5588 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 4000 @ 0.0034 = 13.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.08967999 = 1.7936 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 57 @ 0.1 = 5.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.08977999 = 0.808 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.08977999 = 0.6285 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.1 = 0.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.0034 = 0.136 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4488 @ 0.00037952 = 1.7033 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14911 @ 0.00037932 = 5.656 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 300 @ 0.1 = 30 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 39 @ 0.1 = 3.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 7 @ 0.1 = 0.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.1 = 10 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 3 @ 0.189 = 0.567 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 20 @ 0.199 = 3.98 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 7 @ 0.2099 = 1.4693 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 3 @ 0.21 = 0.63 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 10 @ 0.23 = 2.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.24999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 249 @ 0.000967 = 0.2408 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.6501 = 3.2505 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 250 @ 0.1 = 25 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PIMP] 40 @ 0.16 = 6.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.92999 = 3.72 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 23 @ 0.93 = 21.39 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11005 @ 0.00103072 = 11.3431 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 495 @ 0.00103158 = 0.5106 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 495 @ 0.101 = 49.995 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BLUECHIP] 10 @ 0.1 = 1 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 10 @ 0.09999998 = 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 240 @ 0.09999999 = 24 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 50 @ 0.0001195 = 0.006 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 3 @ 0.1279 = 0.3837 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.1 = 10 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 19 @ 0.1279 = 2.4301 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 7 @ 0.128 = 0.896 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 3 @ 0.12816 = 0.3845 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 31 @ 0.12827 = 3.9764 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 3 @ 0.12828 = 0.3848 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 7 @ 0.12839 = 0.8987 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 50 @ 0.1285 = 6.425 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.129199 = 0.2584 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 10 @ 0.1293 = 1.293 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 10 @ 0.1295 = 1.295 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.1298 = 0.2596 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 20 @ 0.13 = 2.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 13 @ 0.13 = 1.69 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 23 @ 0.1341 = 3.0843 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.0034 = 1.7 BTC [+]
bitfoo: no, I think it's a mining company
bitfoo: Yet Another Bitcoin Mining Company
smickles: we really need to stop calling them bonds
smickles: special purpose vehicles may fit
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 25 @ 0.9998 = 24.995 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 208 @ 0.09999999 = 20.8 BTC [+]
markac: "A special purpose entity (SPE; or, especially in Europe, special purpose vehicle/SPV, or, in some cases in each EU jurisdiction – FVC financial vehicle corporation) is a legal entity (usually a limited company of some type or, sometimes, a limited partnership) [...]" -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_purpose_entity smickles: iirc turd works well as it was defined
smickles: but the fact that there isn't a maturity, repayment of the principle, etc... bond is entirely misleaing
smickles: turd even gets the connotation correct
rdponticelli: Yes, but bitcoin finance is reinventing everything
smickles: i don't think it should mess with the basic definition of a bond tho
smickles: mircea_popescu: it makes sence to call everything an spv (or similiar) until rigid deffinitions and categories appear
smickles: patrick was part of constitutes, right?
smickles: was that operation pirate exposed?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P080N] 8 @ 0.08800824 = 0.7041 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: they use 500 btc worth of pirate-unexposed patrick debt.
smickles: so the whole thing is sans-pirate?
mircea_popescu: well, it's 500 btc of mpoe bonds, 500 of patrick's nonpirate and 100 btc of NYAN.A which i understand is immune due to their tiering.
smickles: i need to free up some btc and calc a value for one of those
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1900 @ 0.00098257 = 1.8669 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.00332266 / 0.0034 (430610 shares, 1,430.77 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00322445 / 0.0034 (2295100 shares, 7,400.44 BTC)
AgentKen: lol GMVT-BOT is in a bubble guys
assbot: [GLBSE:GMVT-BOT] [Bid: 0.1301] [Ask: 0.25] [Spread: 0.1199] [Last: 0.25] [24hVol: 20.67029999] [7dAvg: 0.1415129]
smickles: mircea_popescu: the bids must have canceled with the downtime / bug
mircea_popescu: smickles or they got wiped cause they exceeded at some point the person'stotal btc or somesuch
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 68 @ 0.00989 = 0.6725 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 600 @ 0.1 = 60 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 89 @ 0.1 = 8.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 15 @ 0.16 = 2.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.1 = 10 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11000 @ 0.0009956 = 10.9516 BTC [+]
nefario: we'll be getting a speed boost later this week
smickles: mircea_popescu: i bet that's kakobrekla with the first share
smickles: buy at .1, sell at 20, not a bad plan if it happens
smickles: i hear the graphs have improvement coming
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 3 @ 0.7 = 2.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
nefario: but we'll be adding live streams of orders
nefario: right now we don't cache the orderbook as it's the only way to get 100% accurate order info
nefario: the
http orderbook will be cahced for 10 seconds
nefario: when we bring up streaming
nefario: but the service wont be free
nefario: orders will go there before they get to twitter
nefario: giving a significant advantage
nefario: any questions on streaming smickles?
smickles: it sounds straightforward to me
smickles: i don't do engough trading to justify 1 btc a month tho :/
smickles: maybe have X slots available, and people bid on slots
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 21 @ 0.1 = 2.1 BTC [-]
bitfoo: anyone running a bot would jump at that
nefario: that incentivises us to have fewer slots
bitfoo: I meant the 1 btc, I'd pay it if I were running a bot
smickles: i wonder if there is a way to have the auction style payment per month, while not giving you the incentive to create scarcity
assbot: [GLBSE] [POLY.10.1] 30 @ 1.11512529 = 33.4538 BTC [+]
smickles: have the number of slots be dynamic... something like 90% of bids are accepted, 10% don't get it
assbot: [GLBSE] [POLY.10.1] 30 @ 1.115 = 33.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1450 @ 0.1 = 145 BTC [-]
smickles: if it were no limit on slots, everyone would bid 1 satoshi
smickles: i believe that nefario has a reason to charge for the service, so such a low price would likely defeate the purpose
bitfoo: the point of charging for it in the first place is to induce scarcity right?
mircea_popescu: and you sell an infinite ammt at 1 satoshi you make a loss of infinite btc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20801 @ 0.00037816 = 7.8661 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: if you sell 3 slots at 10, 6, 2 you make 9 + 5 + 1 = 15 btc
bitfoo: but if there was only 1 slot the bids would probably have been higher
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [-]
smickles: unless it's a bell-curv distro
bitfoo: because it's a more scarce commidity being bid for
mircea_popescu: ya but the person bidding doesn't bid on a luxury item
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 1 @ 0.01 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.0799 = 0.2397 BTC [+]
bitfoo: in this case I think the more people that have access to the data, the less valuable it becomes
smickles: if it's utility, then it is more likely to be a bellcurve distribution
mircea_popescu: bitfoo from what i hear the value of information increases with access, hence the internet.
bitfoo: mircea_popescu, I don't see how that applies to real-time trade data
bitfoo: the more real-time you get it, the more potential profit you can make
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4151 @ 0.00103158 = 4.2821 BTC [+]
bitfoo: and if more people get the data fast, the profits are shared
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: but at any rate i would guess this discussion is moot : trades don't happen fast enough for any of this to matter.
bitfoo: that I tend to agree...
mircea_popescu: you got the [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-] line at 21:38, someone else at 21:37:58
bitfoo: but he's going to stream quotes too
smickles: the mpoe.etf order book is officially awesome in my mind
mircea_popescu: not that 1 btc/month is any big deal in any case, like a newspaper subscription.
bitfoo: smickles, nice spread :)
assbot: [GLBSE:MPOE.ETF] [Bid: 0.0002] [Ask: 1.4] [Spread: 1.3998] [Last: 1.4] [24hVol: ] [7dAvg: 1.382]
bitfoo: how do I compute the NAV of mpoe.etf?
mircea_popescu: 0,9998! dude, that's got to be a record for btc and implicitly everything
smickles: bitfoo: the fund has about 4million shares and ~ 10 btc
bitfoo: is it just updated on the forum thread?
smickles: bitfoo: i give monthly 10-k style financial reports
bitfoo: ok, I think I've seen those
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 5 @ 0.7 = 3.5 BTC [-]
smickles: kakobrekla: is that you ask on mpoe.etf @ 20 btc?
smickles: oh, that would have been humorous
kakobrekla: im staying up all night prolly to finish permanent links
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: i will see how noone will use it again :D
smickles: kakobrekla: is it still just for gox?
kakobrekla: i figured there would be most traffic to that exchange
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.1 = 0.4 BTC [-]
smickles: glbse is easy to scrape/create form data
kakobrekla: id really like to avoid using 'api' throgh html code :D
smickles: smpake -> mpex would be nice for when mircea_popescu isn't around
nefario: smickles: deposits are manual for mpex?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.9738 = 1.9476 BTC [-]
smickles: which i was meaning to ask about
smickles: mircea_popescu: how come deposits are manual?
kakobrekla: also 'smpake' should prolly get a better name after going out of beta, suggestions accepted :)
smickles: i understand why for withdrawals, but deposits, eludes me
nefario: kakobrekla: smpake sounds like bukakke
bitfoo: nefario, stop trolling :D
smickles: mircea_popescu: couldn't you just monitor the address w/o the private key?
nefario: GLBSE 1.0 had a command line client and key based auth etc.
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.57 BTC [-]
bitfoo: I use it because of the stocks on offer there
bitfoo: sure, now they all have pass-throughs, but they didn't before
smickles: mircea_popescu: like, automate deposits by watching the deposit address for 6 confirms on deposit transactions
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 7 @ 0.69 = 4.83 BTC [-]
nefario: what did they have before?
nefario: I didn't hear of mpex before march
bitfoo: mircea_popescu, BVPS, MPOE, options
smickles: mircea_popescu: what's the risk? someone nefariously gives you btc?
mircea_popescu: if you can programatically interract with the wallet you can programatically inerract with the wallet.
bitfoo: mircea_popescu, you don't need access to the wallet to watch an address for incoming tx
nefario: blockchain.info if you don't want to listen to incoming transactions
bitfoo: I don't need the private key to know when something is sent
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 16 @ 0.16 = 2.56 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: well you don't, no, i'm not saying it couldn't be done.
smickles: you could use a client with seperate and unused wallet data
mircea_popescu: it's just... secure software is a big, complex and thorny topic, you know ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-]
smickles: in the case of failure, you can rollover to manual
mircea_popescu: so to make a long answer short, for the time being the costs of resolving this problem don't seem justified. even with the ipo or w/e it wasn't my deposit system that ever was the bottleneck
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12254 @ 0.00103158 = 12.641 BTC [+]
nefario: how much did you raise for your IPO?
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.00332403 / 0.0034 (425860 shares, 1,415.57 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00322445 / 0.0034 (2295100 shares, 7,400.44 BTC)
smickles: 2.2mil out of 10 mill, the 10 mil being 10%
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
smickles: and no more than 10 mil will be issued within 30 days, and no more than 50 mil of the 100 mil ever issued to the public
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 11 @ 0.1341 = 1.4751 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: im curious if the guy ever manages to sell out to that macau casino
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 10 @ 0.339 = 3.39 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 25 @ 0.16 = 4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.37 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00037975 = 1.4051 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19912 @ 0.0003807 = 7.5805 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10186 @ 0.00038075 = 3.8783 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00038167 = 3.1297 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00038413 = 5.7235 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37300 @ 0.00038495 = 14.3586 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3108 @ 0.00038531 = 1.1975 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45558 @ 0.00038582 = 17.5772 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53018 @ 0.00038598 = 20.4639 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24967 @ 0.00038726 = 9.6687 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52300 @ 0.00038865 = 20.3264 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00038926 = 3.153 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49300 @ 0.00038976 = 19.2152 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00038983 = 1.9102 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58100 @ 0.00039138 = 22.7392 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30471 @ 0.00039293 = 11.973 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37400 @ 0.00039344 = 14.7147 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40227 @ 0.00039431 = 15.8619 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26215 @ 0.00039587 = 10.3777 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00039656 = 5.3536 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50300 @ 0.00039721 = 19.9797 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8317 @ 0.00039745 = 3.3056 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00039793 = 7.7198 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41848 @ 0.00039989 = 16.7346 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63773 @ 0.0004 = 25.5092 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: today atlas finds out s.mpoe is the mpex/mpoe conglomerate
smickles: EmanuelDeOrtego: it's mpex shares, essentially
DeaDTerra1337: but I can't as I am only staying until Sunday evening then I am leaving again.
DeaDTerra1337: Vlad is throwing a BBQ in connection to the conference but it's on the 19th or something like that
DeaDTerra1337: at his house :P He posted about it on the forums today
mircea_popescu: all the stuff that starts with bg_ are backgrounds used during the years
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: I remember when I could get hundreds of Bitcoins on a Pentium 3
mircea_popescu: anyone, and i do mean, anyone who's into finance must know that building.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.93 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: I think Satoshi DICE is the first real profitable IPO that isn't mining
EmanuelDeOrtego: I think Pirate is going to do a MyBitcoin because he doesn't have the Bitcoins.
BTC-Mining: Assuming he planned to buy back bitcoins to start with
mircea_popescu: i think what we saw in that plubnge was him dumping whateverr he had left
mircea_popescu: of the fool's money *(they still call themselves investors lawl)
BTC-Mining: waaaiit... just noticed it was impossible to have a small letter L in bitcoin adresses...
BTC-Mining: So anyone has some nice deals on some stocks?
BTC-Mining: If you want to get out, I can provide volume
smickles: BTC-Mining: as the bid depth on mpoe.etf has yet to fill in, what would youbuy at?
smickles: all the data are in thoes reports
BTC-Mining: Eh, luckily, I lost nothing in the pirate default...
smickles: it should be a financial manager of some kind who calculates the fundamentals from that data
BTC-Mining: someone should already have filed a police report or something...
BTC-Mining: or contact any appropriate agency about fraud
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining saying what ? guy renegged on his promise to give me 7% more monopoly money ?
smickles: BTC-Mining: i only stand to lose indirectly from the pirate issue
BTC-Mining: BTC is not monopoly money, and even if it were, theft is theft. If it's your monopoly money...
smickles: i have 2.8 billion in monoply money in a suitcase
BTC-Mining: But the market rate for this money is much higher than monopoly money at around 10 USD each...
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 4 @ 0.2979 = 1.1916 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 9 @ 0.095 = 0.855 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 1 @ 0.095 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 6 @ 0.298 = 1.788 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: It's like saying authorities would not do anything about someone stealing your cents, under the fact they have pretty much no official face value, when it's a coin collection and those cents actually predates 1900 or contain a few rare specimens.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining simmer down man! i was just pointing out da police isn't equipped to deal with these things
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43300 @ 0.00038105 = 16.4995 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 20 @ 0.93 = 18.6 BTC [+]
AgentKen: I should put private keys on monopoly money for the lulz
BTC-Mining: but to prevent pirate from exiting the US, yes.
BTC-Mining: He's probably already gone in any case.
BTC-Mining: There's plenty of online currencies already...
assbot: [GLBSE] [CBGB] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: You don't have to explain the details, just that someone absconded with your online funds.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.00037925 = 10.0501 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: but i suiddenly had this very confused police officer in my head
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.0003795 = 2.9981 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27763 @ 0.00038316 = 10.6377 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51100 @ 0.0003855 = 19.6991 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00038783 = 8.9589 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40137 @ 0.0004 = 16.0548 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: (By that, he means it had dust in it and wouldn't work properly, so he "quited" it through the window)
smickles: this one is almost 15 years old
smickles: it's a wilerless keyboard/mouse from logitec
smickles: and the wireless signal stopped coming out of the mouse
BTC-Mining: You shouldn't lend your things to people who can manage to do that
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 10 @ 0.15 = 1.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.339 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 2 @ 0.941 = 1.882 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.93 = 9.3 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: [03:13:02] <mircea_popescu> today atlas finds out s.mpoe is the mpex/mpoe conglomerate
Diablo-D3: overlord... no... overground... no... overwatch... maybe....
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.444 = 0.888 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090N] 5 @ 0.13220976 = 0.661 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.4381 = 2.6286 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 46 @ 0.93 = 42.78 BTC [+]
smickles: AgentKen: maybe we could arrange something
smickles: what terms would you be interested in?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 4 @ 0.4099 = 1.6396 BTC [-]
AgentKen: smickles: How long are willing to lend and what's your interest rate?
smickles: off hand, i'd say we take it one week at a time and charge 1% per week
mircea_popescu: <nefario> I didn't hear of mpex before march << you couldn't have, it launched in april.
smickles: EmanuelDeOrtego: but iam willing to negociate terms
EmanuelDeOrtego: smickles: Well, let me run some numbers. How many shares are up for lending?
smickles: EmanuelDeOrtego: somewhere around 2k currently
EmanuelDeOrtego: smickles: Heh, I am sorry, my friend. I was hoping for around 20k at least.
smickles: heh, too bad, i'm not in a position to ffer that quite yet
EmanuelDeOrtego: mircea_popescu: I would if I was sure I could recoup that 20 BTC investment.
mircea_popescu: well, it's an investment in your future. if you had already months ago now borrfowing shares would be trivial wouldn't it.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Mircea_popescu: You won't be charging 20+ BTC fees when a Bitcoin is over $100. : P
mircea_popescu: go get a pit spot on nyse, see how much that runs you.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2900 @ 0.0034 = 9.86 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 10 @ 1 = 10 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0034 = 0.0068 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0034 = 0.0068 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0034 = 0.0068 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ahhh, that sweet day when i go ;;ticker and gribble prints three digits before the dot...
kakobrekla: i bet that will be caused by mtg bug at least once before the real deal
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.9499 = 3.7996 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 59 @ 0.103 = 6.077 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: It either crashes or they have to manually approve the transaction...