assbot: You rated user phf on 01-Aug-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: ru lisper.
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 Arch 64 is a go
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for phf from 1 to 2 with note: ru lisper; sometimes tests my code, even
phf: yeah, the i18n stuff was preventing me from building it, but otherwise it works (with some extra modifications to get it running under clang/macsosx, but those are inconsequential)
ag3nt_zer0: oh ok... couldnt see the nickname list for a sec
mod6: asciilifeform: mod6 feature request for your 'v' - degrade gracefully if the graphing lib thing is absent plz << sure, will look into it. thx!
mod6: <shinohai> Arch 64 is a go << cool! thanks for testing.
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mircea_popescu: another decade or so the us congress will look just like nero's senate.
mod6: ok i've resolved that issue asciilifeform, I'll test on it for a few days and probably post a new version this coming weekend.
mod6: just so we're clear, this change makes it so "use Graph::Easy" is not required unless the 'g|graph' flag is passed.
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mircea_popescu: "Tom Morello was born on May 30, 1964, in Harlem, New York to Ngethe Njoroge and Mary Morello. Njoroge was Kikuyu Kenyan and a Mau Mau guerrilla. Jomo Kenyatta, the revolutionary leader of the Mau Mau, was his uncle. Njoroge served as liberated Kenya’s first ambassador to the U.N. In August 1963, Njoroge and Mary met at a pro democracy protest in Nairobi, Kenya. In November 1963 after discovering her pregnancy, Mary
mircea_popescu: returned to the United States with Njoroge in toll, and married in New York City.
mircea_popescu: Undoubtedly, Mary Morello similarly to Ann Dunham worked for either the U.S. State Department under Dean Rusk through the USAID student operations ran by Helms to infiltrate leftist Black African Liberation Movements to disrupt, recruit and inform. Ann Dunham was three months pregnant when she married Barack Obama Sr. on February 2, 1961. While Obama Jr. was being conceived in 1960, Mary Morello was circulating in Nair
mircea_popescu: obi, Kenya. Mary Morello had travelled to Kenya as well as Germany, Spain, Japan under a clandestine veil as an English language teacher between 1957 and 1963.
mircea_popescu: After graduating from Libertyville High School, Tom Morello was the first student in Libertyville’s history to be admitted to Harvard University. Yet when he graduated with a degree in political science, Tom Morello asserts that he was “unemployable.” He then turned up in Hollywood as an exotic male stripper.
mircea_popescu: Ordinarily that’s the way the story is suppose to end, two small town boys from Middle America makes good. It was just faith that two young white independent American females just happened to be in the right place and right time [one in the middle of the East Africa] by chance meet two centrally placed Black African Liberation figures key to the interests of British and U.S. Foreign Policy.
mircea_popescu: One entangles the nephew of one of the most important and powerful Black Nationalist political figures of the 20th Century, Jomo Kenyatta, and the other entangles a key tribal rival to Kenyatta in love child triangles just at the moment of the critical end to a long bloody struggle for Kenyan independence from white colonial rule."
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 23:21:00; mircea_popescu: "Welcome, kiddo, to how the real world works. You go ahead and place your crazy protest bids way off in the bottom of the sociological order book and scream that someday, SOMEDAY, the market will come down to meet you, and you will be vindicated.
mircea_popescu: political science is almost like finance now. great victory for the scientific!
BingoBoingo: Random companies now feel like they gotta apologize in qntra comments nao
mircea_popescu proceeds to re-read the "sociological order book" thing. yup, makes perfect sense. cryptography, who needs it when they've got "best business practices" and pr and whatnot. mainstream media! valuable knowledge and know-how! etc!
assbot: Former congressional aide accused of drugging and sexually assaulting women - The Washington Post ... (
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assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 01:10:03; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what do you mean it breaks v!
assbot: One-time NSA division chief to plead guilty in young son’s death, court files show - The Washington Post ... (
http://bit.ly/1GIJxc9 )
mircea_popescu: awww, nsa division head fell into the "find me five lines and i'll hang him" trap ?
mircea_popescu: listen up, remaining ones... you won't know which of you isn't on my books already. but you know YOU aren't, and now you know it'll mean your ass.
mircea_popescu: get with the program, there's no prizes for being the last traitor of a dying state.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> almost qntrable. << Someone give it the right treatment it could be.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and wtf, the usg Official Truth is that MOST small arms homicides in usa have .22 hole. << Pehaps he had the fancy copper plate stuff.
mod6: oh, i did notice that your vpatch does have dates in it though. you probably just had an older version of vdiff?
mod6: mine still didn't seem to care, but maybe try yours without ts's?
assbot: Re: Is there a useful distinction between "programming" and "scripting" languages? - Naggum cll archive ... (
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mircea_popescu: "Before, the experience of addiction was entirely subjective, is it messing up your life? Now, it's been objectified, the subject's relationship with the drug is is no longer relevant, it is the fact of the drug that is relevant. The obvious example of this sleight of hand is that there's alcohol use and alcohol abuse, but there's no such category as cocaine use, even though the vast majority of its ingestion has nothi
mircea_popescu: ng to do with addiction. The reinforcement is from the outside to comply with this idiocy: say you party down one weekend, then a random drug test at work, oops! So two things can happen, Guess What Happens Next: you could tell the truth that the coke was on her ass and how could you not? doesn't make you a bad person; or pretend/admit you're an addict and agree to go to rehab. So it's unanimous? You keep your job
mircea_popescu: at McDonalds and the system gets another data point confirming it is right. I hope the parallel between this and anything written by Solzhenitsyn is immediately obvious, if not, read anything by Solzhenitsyn. The Matrix doesn't need you, but it will offer you a free pass if you help get the other batteries in line."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and ironically the tanks of sludge got to be in the first place because "people want to read the code".
mircea_popescu: romney should have run on a platform of "there may be only one compiler and one namespace per generation and whoever breaks it we'll sell to ethiopian slavers"
mircea_popescu: forget "fiscal conservative" bs. information conservative.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i am in the habit of sending various relatives snippets to paste into sbcl and limited instructions on what to do
mircea_popescu: we now know enough - through our own work of digging and torture-extracted confessions, no less - to estimate that a large if not the largest pillar of the insanity was rms&co misguided quest to protect "but people want to read the code".
ben_vulpes: these are molecular researchy folks and the like
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes recent rms/everyone else fallout over whether llvm is good or not and gcc should or shouyld not expose the ast
mircea_popescu: they were wrong btw. should have worked for ms for free.
ben_vulpes: change at all to the labor-intensiveness, but the labor was more "fun" for a
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mircea_popescu: as in "i'll slit your throat and rape your sluts" free
mircea_popescu: we would have gotten apple no matter what, even withoujt computing. apple is what happens when an ambitious young man gets lucky with the media buys early and then sticks to it.
mircea_popescu: (it's a testament to the idiocy of america : you can FORCE them into liking anything.)
mircea_popescu: the "commercial unix houses" were the happy marriage of imbeciles to eighteen-abortions whores.
mircea_popescu: here's a bit of truth for one bb : "Note that when scienticians talk about, say, the increase in alcoholism, they never go back before WWII, otherwise they'd have to label most ancient Greeks, all Vikings and everyone in colonial America as alcoholics. "Well," they'll explain, "it wasn't until then we started rigorously treating people as data points." "
mircea_popescu: funnily, the DO NOT apply the same principle to "climate data".
assbot: Herpes affects two-thirds of people under 50, WHO says | World news | The Guardian
assbot: Logged on 18-06-2015 14:04:54; mircea_popescu: except pretty much everyone can be made to develop mouth herpes by stressing the liver in a particular manner
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: source for that claim of yours?
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ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what does it mean to "have the antibody", that one's body produces it?
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 02:59:23; mircea_popescu: hp SELECTED fiorina.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: except pretty much everyone can be made to develop mouth herpes by stressing the liver in a particular manner
mircea_popescu: i don't have a source in that sense. you can quote me as an expert.
mircea_popescu: in any case : an effectual immune response keeps this particular virus well contained. its efficiency is predicated on a well functioning liver because of peculiar synthesis pathways that are narrow and easily stress that i don't recall extemporaneously.
phf: sgi had the best implementation of x window system. i briefly had an o2, hand me down from a retrocomputing enthusiast
phf: that actually looks like octane, i had the low end O2 version
phf: i sold my retrohardware before one of the moves, because, i'm ashamed to say, in 2007 it seemed like "mac, you're my unix now"
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phf: still can be had for peanuts, but of course can't get back the time investment into "living with mac", re the in-log points about "running linux since 99"
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: qntra? << reading into it, mebbe?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> here's a bit of truth for one bb : "Note that when scienticians talk about, say, the increase in alcoholism, they never go back before WWII, otherwise they'd have to label most ancient Greeks, all Vikings and everyone in colonial America as alcoholics. "Well," they'll explain, "it wasn't until then we started rigorously treating people as data points." " << Or the society is broken as illustrated by the differing
BingoBoingo: 'Murican and Eastern European interspecies relationship with bears
phf: see, that's cause your priorities were straight. my first "real computer" was a shell into msu machine that was part of GlasNet project (glasnost! internet!) from an elektronika computer, so i kind of always assumed that real computers is not something you have at home. i always just wanted a "deck" from neuromancer.
mircea_popescu: what's definition of real computer ? no basic interpreter ?
phf: real computer is obviously a machine from "понедельник начинается в субботу" novel
mircea_popescu: but we still agree it's just a tool, rite ? like a glorified hoe ?
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pete_dushenski: it's no different than calling your friend 'aces' because when you play poker he somehow always have pocket rockets. tis just a nickname.
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 03:09:05; BingoBoingo: ty pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes heyo any measurements on the little v-man to report ? length, weight, etc. ?
☟︎ pete_dushenski: "My naïve Tesla "buy" call was predicated on the American green fetish at the time" << did you actually pick up some shares or just 'recommend' ?
☟︎ pete_dushenski: "The worst thing that can happen to a man is for him to invest speculatively as a sideline and for it to work. He then runs the risk of considering himself a good investor." << hardly the worst thing that can happen to a man. depends entirely on what he does with his self-confidence as an investor
pete_dushenski: does he go to the casino and play lotteries because he thinks 'i can't lose!' or does he bury his fortunate treasure until something equally magnificent to whatever succeeded the first time around comes around again, IF it comes around again.
pete_dushenski: so i score a hole-in-one at the golf course and think myself a good golfer now, worst case scenario is i buy a few rounds of beer and boast for a few weeks/months, maybe biting off a bit more than i can chew in a few subsequent matches, but the afterglow will soon fade
pete_dushenski: it's self-correcting. the 'good investor' will come to see himself as having been fortunate THAT ONCE
pete_dushenski: unless, i grant, he's a raving narcissistic lunatic. in which case all bets are off anyways
pete_dushenski: I have only seen conspicuous consumers and Apple fanboys wearing the things. << i've seen exactly two young men wearing the apple watch. exactly two. "no one could've predicted!"
pete_dushenski: no, your replacing your laptop with a LEASED mini-ipad/phone is the future. and here we are.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 03:41:07; mircea_popescu: i find the pastoral images soothing
pete_dushenski: unfortunately around here that's readily muddled with 'acreage life', which it basically ten x 12-acre plots per 'subdivision' where each family has a mid-sized house and a big field for storing their camping trailers/skidoos
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assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 03:48:22; ben_vulpes: i'm not interested in it, it's interested in me.
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 04:06:09; mircea_popescu: next thing you know wife gets too confident of her position and the kid's covered in helmets.
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 06:55:59; mircea_popescu: supposedly there exist suckers buying into this. like supposedly there existed suckers buying into the original "sale". right-o.
pete_dushenski: unless other scam/altcoiners are dropping their other bags and grabbing for eth, lol
pete_dushenski: speaking of which... eth: Last Price 0.00287685 24hr Change -13.38%
pete_dushenski: and in the latest bitcoin bloodbath, even the mighty maidsafecoin is coming back down to earth. pretty much ipo level nao and nowhere to go but down.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41250 @ 0.00053954 = 22.256 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 17:32:44; ascii_field: the no-dick system
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you mean one million or whatever bs volume it had this month
mircea_popescu: "A scripting language modifies a working system to do certain additional tasks or existing tasks differently and cannot exist without the working system. A programming language builds a working system from scratch." << cute.
mircea_popescu: i understand what the author would like to be true, but seriously...
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 20:53:47; trinque: "only" is perhaps not the best term to use to describe the majority
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BingoBoingo: May Pantagruel comfort you in your sleep with cries of praise and hunger
pete_dushenski: speaking of wicked souls, goethe's faust is giving me the chills atm !
pete_dushenski: though i can probably chalk a fair bit of that to listening to the exquisitely performed audiobook recording while walking through the creepy, empty river valley in the early evening.
pete_dushenski: the sun sets after 10pm in june here (53.5* north latitude)
BingoBoingo: I prefer it to what happens in the spring with the mornings
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13816 @ 0.00054693 = 7.5564 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: There is no need for an extra hour of sunlight in the summer evening, let the dark comfort and cloak our depravities
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 04:11:28; mircea_popescu: they have fucking names and people sleep with them in bed.
pete_dushenski: fuck, even my ibm model m has a name 'round the house : richard a.k.a. dick, for the persistant annoyance obv.
punkman: human names for inanimate objects always strike me as odd, also no computars allowed in the bedroom
☟︎ pete_dushenski: punkman computars in every room ! and chickens in every stove !
pete_dushenski recalls famous top gear botswana special where hammond names his opel 'oliver', to much razzing from may and clarkson.
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assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 02:37:49; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my original 'v' relied on python's 're' (regexp) widget, and will prolly fall down if looked at with evil eye
BingoBoingo: For some definitions of arbitrary it seems
jurov: ^ U+20BF BITCOIN SIGN will be included in unicode
☟︎ adlai: who knew unicode committee insider buying could be so powerful
☟︎ jurov: lol "It's uninspired and ungracious."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46150 @ 0.00054148 = 24.9893 BTC [-] {3}
davout: maybe designing the bitcoin unicode symbol is a problem fit for hearn and gavin, would keep them busy at least
davout: debate whether more vertical bars are needed for increased adoption
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73600 @ 0.00054232 = 39.9148 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 142400 @ 0.00054006 = 76.9045 BTC [-] {4}
jurov: no!! need horizontal bars for stabileety!!!1
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adlai: radiating bars, representing hubs and spokes, heavy nodes and litehead wallets
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assbot: Social Media Is Not Real Life on Instagram: “Was paid $400 to post a dress. That's when I had maybe 150k followers, with half a million followers, I know of many online brands (with big budgets) that pay up to $2000 per post. Nothing is wrong with accepting brand deals. I just think it should be k ... (
http://bit.ly/1RNN4X7 )
davout: i can do the same with my c0ck
adlai: ah, but ross has to serve his life sentenses in series
kakobrekla: "can i bring a few friends and we sit out the years in a month?"
☟︎ adlai: asciilifeform: well i slept through the fact that his sentences sleep through eachother!
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 10:48:21; jurov: ^ U+20BF BITCOIN SIGN will be included in unicode
jurov: "BTC" or "XBT" is not convenient enough?
adlai: too many false positives in --armor blocks
☟︎ punkman: asciilifeform: it was really odd seeing all those people stuck in front door and others trying unsuccessfully to pull them out of the human pile
punkman: also interesting how fast the thick black smoke started pouring out of every orifice
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 05:39:59; pete_dushenski: no, your replacing your laptop with a LEASED mini-ipad/phone is the future. and here we are.
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 15:37:12; asciilifeform: another was 'you open the box and the gasenwagen comes ten minutes later.' this was at one point considered practical but the proliferation of cheap hardware retired it.
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adlai: discrepancy never noticed on attachments past the first attachment_deadbeef.txt, but noticed on every first one checked
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 14:44:31; asciilifeform: whereas today, it is divided into two segments, of unknown proportions, only one of which works as described...
phf: adlai: you might have an extra newline there
adlai tried adding/removing strategic newlines, as well as s/=/=3D/
adlai did not spend more than ~15 minutes guessing at these
phf: ^- shows that attachment_ has \x0a\x0a at the end, where's my awk based extract only adds one
phf: (that second curl is missing |xxd, but you get the general idea)
adlai only gets one trailing #xA from curl!?
phf: welcome to modern computing
phf: 0000600: 2d0a 0a -..
phf: ^- is the tail end of that curl
adlai: ok, that one gives me the same. the ones that I checked (mod6's V, mpi-genesis) did not.
adlai: but none of them sha1sum to the filename
adlai: signatures are correct, so at some level this is masturbation
phf: well, you can just pipe them into xxd and then diff the result
adlai has exceeded his daily allotment of manual sha1 preimage mining
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00351697 / 0.00351697 / 0.00351697 (40 shares, 0.14 BTC), 7D: 0.0035 / 0.00357296 / 0.00383564 (1482 shares, 5.30 BTC), 30D: 0.0035 / 0.00418695 / 0.00469539 (7480 shares, 31.32 BTC)
jurov: ;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoin-central
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00053495 = 12.4643 BTC [-] {5}
adlai: now that's a coin i haven't seen in a long time
adlai just a couple days ago discussed finite vs indefinite disinflation, mentioned woodcoin, eyebrows were raised
adlai: phun phact, the onion is totally wrong on this. depression is worst when baseless.
funkenstein_: aha, good point.. more "clinical" then i suppose
funkenstein_: "spend your remaining years raising some woman's children by another man" <-- /me would consider this a compliment of highest order
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62800 @ 0.00053487 = 33.5898 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: funkenstein_: in which direction?
funkenstein_: trinque, meaning, if you want my behaviors implanted on future generations... you must have some respect for those who shaped mine, etc.
☟︎ trinque: funkenstein_: perhaps. given though that having children is already likely -ev, bringing biological conflict into the balance would seem to make it more so.
trinque: furthermore you can't spend the compliment
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115900 @ 0.00053484 = 61.988 BTC [-] {5}
trinque: funkenstein_: you're aware that other primate (and other mammal) males will kill unrelated offspring of a new mate?
funkenstein_: "unrelated" is a bit of a misnomer, wouldn't you agree?
trinque: you are going to expend more effort convincing some kid that saw you show up to obey than you will one that didn't
trinque: and beyond that, I would not be surprised at all if being aware of "degree of relatedness" is built-in
funkenstein_: well that's where the proverbial switch comes in then I suppose
funkenstein_: either you make them practice or you don't.. if your eyes are slightly different color that's really not important
trinque: seems you are discounting the in-group/out-group dynamics of social animals
trinque: nowhere did I say it was impossible to teach a stepchild, yet, may cost more
funkenstein_: could be, yah.. but still, "you should be a teacher" is not an insult
trinque: "go and be parasitised; you are only useful as fodder for others" << is
trinque: "only" being quite operative there
funkenstein_: true.. to me, being parasitised, as fodder for others, would more likely be - take my sperm, discard me
trinque: lol, you precious bodily fluids ?!
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PeterL: crazy price jump recently, how high will it go?
PeterL: good news for bitbet, makes the price bets more interesting
thestringpuller: Bugpowder has returned. A name I haven't seent in many years.
gribble: bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 minutes and 3 seconds ago: <Bugpowder> gotta ident
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 07:38:19; punkman: human names for inanimate objects always strike me as odd, also no computars allowed in the bedroom
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 10:48:44; adlai: who knew unicode committee insider buying could be so powerful
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 11:45:35; davout: debate whether more vertical bars are needed for increased adoption
mircea_popescu: gavin threw out a perfectly satisfactory career as mcdonalds manager to pretend like he's an intellectual, that scruffy kid could have been an excellet poolboy, but no, he has to pretend like political clout and whatnot.
ascii_field meanwhile cut another ~100kB of crud off mpi
mircea_popescu: the postfeudal jobbágy had it better. yes, backbreaking labour and no ownership, but also the satisfaction of a day's work done each night.
ascii_field: incidentally this thing is going in cardano in place of the unspeakably untested ragtag thing i had previously.
ascii_field when reading code where each important algo quotes a knuth aop chapter and verse, the soul fucking sings
ascii_field: all i see in the commentz is 'tomb of the unknown free software soldier' sorta thing
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 14:30:17; asciilifeform: 'Everything about this development bears the hallmarks of a military/intelligence operation... Ask yourself, why would millions of men (the overwhelming majority are young men) suddenly and collectively decide to leave their families behind, leave their country, travel thousands of miles and head for either Germany, Austria or Sweden, ignoring all the other safe countries on the way? Who told them tha
mircea_popescu: islamic society consists by 45-60% by mass of young (ie, just like in the west, under 35) men with no property and no prospects (just like in the west)
mircea_popescu: except there they're not being pacified with idle "prospects" and "software engineer" pretenses, they're just told outright : your sisters belong to the wealthy and get fucked.
mircea_popescu: so they're getting fucked. towards where there's free cunt.
mircea_popescu: i didn't know anyone THERE who didn't keep MORE WOMEN THAN ME
mircea_popescu: (ironically, this is also evident in the off-kilter births balance. they're breeding males at postwar replacement rates, for this reason.)
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: are you familiar with v. rezun's (aka v. suvorov, pseudonym) argument circa 1980 re: why ussr 'must perpetually expand communism' ?
ascii_field: he had this thesis, that it 'has to kill any alternative before it becomes a palatable thing
ascii_field: i find it entirely plausible that usg would try to open the scuttling valve on what remains of industrial europe
mircea_popescu: "the onlyt way we'll go past spreading-works is once all alternatives are exhausted"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46350 @ 0.00053596 = 24.8417 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: but anyway - the migration towards europe is a mix. females go out of africa, usually with a herd of children in tow. ie, from africa the cows move out.
mircea_popescu: in middle east etc, the cows are owned and stay, the grunts move out
mircea_popescu: they meet in istanbul these days, and invent faux "family units"
mircea_popescu: anyhway, the biases included are indicative of the source. "oh, must be secret service ops " = "we secretly believe secret service is the coolest thing in the world" = "we're here, not there, nor do we manifestly have a clue about anything, so therefore... we';re ss rejects"
ascii_field: so what, god opened the borders and set up the specially-designated 24/7 trains full of berserking orcs ?
ascii_field: why moves today and not last year ? and not next year ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40500 @ 0.00053484 = 21.661 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69900 @ 0.00053631 = 37.4881 BTC [+] {3}
punkman: ascii_field: I had a client that was automating payment of those. taxi/limo company.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42150 @ 0.00053677 = 22.6249 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 204048 @ 0.00053983 = 110.1512 BTC [+] {5}
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punkman: "don't forget to bring cash"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75900 @ 0.00054216 = 41.1499 BTC [+] {3}
sahires: gotta bring the GPG key over from other computer
jurov: ascii_field: how do you flamethrower million people?
☟︎ ascii_field: jurov: you flamethrower 1,000 and the rest - if they have any sense - get the message.
jurov: you know, mmore than 1000 already drowned
jurov: not getting message somehow
ascii_field: jurov: do you seriously think that they were let in because there was not enough ammo to shoot every last orc ?
jurov: no not because of that reason
ascii_field: or that if a million russians wanted to move in and rape, pillage, there would be the same welcome ?
☟︎ jurov: if russia was i ruins, yes
jurov: merkel&co just thought bunsiness as usual, if they can have a million already there, they can accept 10 times more
ascii_field: the orcs are welcome because they spread chaos and destroy the competition of usg
☟︎ jurov: shoulda invade a china, too
jurov: ir that's not a competition?
ascii_field: competition is places where 'brain drain' MOVES TO
ascii_field: su did not heavily police its border with cn, for this reason
jurov: yes, some do move there now
jurov: because orlov says so?
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 20:54:46; mircea_popescu: which is why no cows, no trees, everyone on tatamis
ascii_field: and no white man ever really, legitimately, enters the cn wot.
jurov: anyway, how do you imagine anyone in the EU would initiate impalements?
jurov: there isn't even capital punishment
ascii_field: no worries, the caliphate will rediscover the art of picturesque capital punishment in eu.
☟︎ jurov: i did not ask about hypothetical future caliphate
jurov: you proposed that as realistic preventive solution, so i'm curipus how do you imagine that?
ascii_field: say, ever 'refugee' gets two weeks to make himself scarce and after that, gasenwagen
jurov: again, who will do it?
jurov: who will make them vanish?
ascii_field: but yes, there is no coup. because, as we learn, the germans do not really want to live.
ascii_field vaguely recalled something about jurov possibly moving there
jurov: it was postponed (for reasons unrelated to politics)
ascii_field: i know a fella in meatspace who wanted to move to germany
ascii_field: which is what got me on this train of thought.
jurov: i suspect it will end up like wwii, it will be *very* different germany as before, but everyone will still envy it
☟︎ kakobrekla: Bugpowder you should auth with assbot if you want a permavoice.
ascii_field: jurov: wwii did not involve a population replacement in de
☟︎ ascii_field: jurov: last i saw, it was still full of germans ?
jurov: these "germans" lived hundreds of years outside germany
jurov: it's documented many times in european history, that genes move in completely unrelated directions to culture and language
jurov: so if caliphate does not happen, then this
lobbes: It is argued that Issue 2 (restricting monopolies) would also prohibit citizens from bringing issues to the ballot (via petition) that deal with any kind of tax reform
lobbes: and that it wouldn't really stop monopolies anyway, as the Ohio General Assembly would still be able to do such
BingoBoingo: lobbes: Ohio is basically a shitpit. Take everything wrong with Chicago and spread it over the area of an entire state and you get Ohio.
BingoBoingo: Ohio, where the water in the rivers is as flamable as the diesel in the trucks.
lobbes: BingoBoingo: where, in America, is it not a shitpit?
lobbes: different flavors, perhaps
BingoBoingo: I dunno, but even compared to the rest of the place, Ohio is especially smelly.
lobbes: idk, there's Oklahomo, Michigan, but now I guess we're just ranking shit
lobbes: and yeah, there is a literal smell to some places in Ohio
BingoBoingo: Oklahomo is pretty bad, but less overtly toxic in a give you cancer sort of way than Ohio. Michigan still has the Upper Penninsula last I checked.
thestringpuller: I remember being driven to the airport one morning and my god
BingoBoingo: Yeah, Kansas City definitely also has a "sepia tone" everything there is brown
hanbot briefly lived in Ohio on a river lovingly referred to as the "old & tangy"
lobbes: Sandusky; esp stinky. But they got roller coasters that kill people, at least
hanbot: hmm, do they charge for tickets too?
BingoBoingo: St Louis isn't so bad. South City stinks in a few places. North County has some radioactive hotspots. Murder happens pretty much everywhere in the city on a long enough timeline.
lobbes: hanbot: I've heard around $30 a pop, though I've never been myself. My loathing of crowds may have kept me alive
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62108 @ 0.00053818 = 33.4253 BTC [-] {2}
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adlai: revisited from above, moreover
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33200 @ 0.00053976 = 17.92 BTC [+] {3}
adlai: btc has rallied, where's the s.mpoe pop?
pete_dushenski: there are an infinite number of dollars to collapse into btc, finite number of btc to collapse into smpoe
adlai: where's mats's crystal ball when you need it
adlai: extending pete's floorless logic, s.mpoe has a soft ceiling at 21MCxBTC/1BS.MPOE = a cool two million satoshi per share.... there's a little headroom left.
adlai: now please disregard everything except "BS"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51200 @ 0.00053691 = 27.4898 BTC [-] {4}
adlai: ;;8ball will bitcoin remember the fifth of november?
adlai: ;;8ball are markets sentient, or merely sadistic?
mircea_popescu: anyone got any idea what "futurniture" is supposed to be, or who Matias Vangsnes is ?
adlai: assrests that will arrive in Two Weeks(tm)?
jurov: wish such an issue would be more often :D
adlai: what sort of issue?
jurov will not comment further
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 05:31:42; pete_dushenski: "My naïve Tesla "buy" call was predicated on the American green fetish at the time" << did you actually pick up some shares or just 'recommend' ?
ben_vulpes: perhaps at the end of this fiscal year i can spread the risk around a bit.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 05:30:47; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes heyo any measurements on the little v-man to report ? length, weight, etc. ?
adlai: first from the bottom? top? middle?
adlai: "and may your first child be an average child"
ben_vulpes: by the way, american medical professionals have this habit of throwing out uncontextualized numbers: "oh, thus and such should happen by the other date"
ben_vulpes: "so, if it doesn't happen by then be worried?"
ascii_field: l0l i wished him to ~be spared~ mean reversion
mircea_popescu: "well then fuck you ?" "how about just fuck my wife" "deal"
ben_vulpes: the only men i've seen in this saga are the surgeons and the family doc. dunno what that means.
BingoBoingo can't believe the Bull Farmer story isn't getting much traction yet.
adlai: "you know, it's a bull market"
shinohai: I forgot to add that hashtag to my tweet of your article earlier BingoBoingo, think I'll redo it.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 14:33:04; asciilifeform: 'I have heard from several people connected to European security circles that the illegal weapons market is completely sold out, with many dealers holding on to their weapons for their own personal use. This is a rumour, but since we have been forced to depend on hearsay for any real information right now, I tend to believe it.'
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 14:47:59; kakobrekla: "can i bring a few friends and we sit out the years in a month?"
shinohai: mircea_popescu: in China I have heard this still occurs, you pay someone to serve your sentence for you.
kakobrekla: does it work for death sentence and do they take checks?
mircea_popescu: i guess not even the chinese can tell the chinese apart.
shinohai: How sad I just noticed that gay-as-fuck heart shit in twitter now.
mircea_popescu: re mpex : there was a trade engine fart earlier, it's down atm, and will stay down for the rest of the day. going through the whole stack of cards thoroughly and will have moar infos by tomorrow.
shinohai: pete_dushenski: I spread bitterness and discontent, that's what the internet is for.
shinohai: You're on my happy list, what you complaining about!
shinohai: That's the list of things that have *actual relevance* in todays online world.
pete_dushenski: *gasp* how dare you insinuate that i don't have actual relevance !
pete_dushenski: i'd expect that from my mother, but my cult ? what has this world become ??
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 04:05:32; mircea_popescu: the mistress is a very important surogate for the functional (ie, 3-4 wives) arrangement.
pete_dushenski: well i seem pretty decent at making my own drama thus far
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 14:55:26; adlai: too many false positives in --armor blocks
BingoBoingo: armored is eye readable before/after verification
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 14:56:06; asciilifeform: i still can't fathom why anybody with half a brain would voluntarily set foot in such a place