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mircea_popescu: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22error%3A+%27thd_lib_detected%27+undeclared%22&t=ffsb&ia=web << in other lulz.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-30 14:10:35 diana_coman: code changes that took 30 minutes, lol; not sure how can one define it more precisely in the general like that, it depends on a lot of things after all.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-30 14:16:26 diana_coman: no, it's not about the loc and I specifically did not mention loc.

diana_coman: no "pings" for instance; but that wp_list_comments method has specific parameters at least according to docs

diana_coman: it's mpwp that does same thing in two different ways; all I do is to conform to its different ways; and no; in db the comment_type is (as I checked) with 3 distinct values: empty string, "trackback" or "pingback"

mircea_popescu: the function is just a wrapper on the exact same thing, wp_list_comments('type=comment'); is exactly SELECT * FROM $wpdb->comments WHERE comment_approved = '1' and comment_type = 'comment'

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: that's in mpwp, what can I do if it does same thing in 2 different ways?

mircea_popescu: it's really the same conditional, shouldn't it rather be and comment_type = comment' ?

mircea_popescu: + < ?php wp_list_comments('type=comment'); ? >

mircea_popescu: incidentally -- there's a divergence in your patch. on the first heading you say and comment_type = '' but on the second heading you say

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: no, it's neither about the write up (after all, I did it *because* I considered it needed) nor about the 20 minutes on it; it's about the fact that a vpatch containing ~30 hours worth of changes would have taken ~similar in writeup and the rest.

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: mno, it's not just a matter of "tools were not set out properly"; tools were set out and there was no time lost gathering them or whatever; yes, there is some inevitable delay when using key, for obv reason but by now that part is as streamlined as it can currently be.

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: trouble is that it's *not* development that is painful-er, not at all; it's...publishing that is painfuller and I doubt that has any merits.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-29 17:10:06 mircea_popescu: do we have a problem there, is it ?

ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-29 15:20:21 mircea_popescu: lobbes, except if you do that, i'd rather do it on trilema.com first

jfw: mircea_popescu: nifty, thanks. Will see if I can accomodate on this pass; otherwise what I'd be working toward is a wallet that's still "declared" but with keys not accessible to node.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-29 07:32:01 mircea_popescu: jfw, http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2019/gales-bitcoin-wallet-spec-and-battle-plan/#comment-69 << do you understsnd what we're talking about ?

jfw: mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-29#1953825 - I think I do now: the ideal node would be able to readily list outputs and thus balances, and perhaps also history, for any given list of addresses, statelessly. Like a block explorer that didn't suck.

bvt: mircea_popescu: even bigger problem for kernel http://bvt-trace.net/2019/10/fg-fed-linux-rng/?b=Pressing&e=though#select

deedbot: Get your OTP: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=WS3_

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: this what?

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, this could be a patch, no ?

deedbot: 2019/11/07 02:34:06 <billymg> mircea_popescu: yup, the plan remains, january will be the time

spyked: diana_coman, approved and ty for the link. I knew there was _some_ discussion on that, but I could not for the life of me find it at the time.

ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-29 11:37:28 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-28#1953799 << mind that you want a post id > 100k. trilema is in the 90`000s atm. and also, how are we gonna handle the mar 2016 - today log dump ?

ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-29 11:35:36 mircea_popescu: had some testing in #trilema-lobbes, fucken beautiful. btw lobbes, you intent to implement the square brackets convention ?

spyked: mircea_popescu, I pushed a fix to feedbot, lessee how it works. I expect it should send the notifications in the correct order next time

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-29 03:31:50 diana_coman: spyked: doesn't feedbot report comments in order? it just reported in pm 3 comments on an article in reverse order (and a couple of hours late by the looks of it)

spyked: diana_coman, np, thanks for reporting the issue

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-27 14:58:06 dorion_road: The other priority areas of ownership to clarify : c library, boot process (bios, bootloader, init), userland, install process, process supervision and logging and package management options beyond ebuilds.

spyked: dorion_road: so I'm sort of a "master of none", I guess. but in general, I'm interested in doing any infrastructure work required to get a tmsr-os up, I think I can handle it, with probably some ramp-up time to learn the code. imho needs figuring out what's really needed tho, e.g. from your list, what work is required for bootloaders/biosen and wh

spyked: diana_coman, no, not really. just didn't add the extra list reverse in the right place.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-27 14:59:17 dorion_road: spyked what area(s) most interest you and you think you're a best fit for ?

spyked: diana_coman, it was down until just now. and no, it doesn't guarantee any order, though that's prolly an easy fix, should push them to the queue in the other order.

ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-27 18:52:46 dorion_road: On the ownership front, so far we have bvt on the kernel, ave1 on gcc and lobbes on ebuilds/package management.

ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-26 23:23:50 mircea_popescu: lobbes, if you refrain you'll never know what's wrong with them eh

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: May they keep plopping out lulzy shit in the Queendom.

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I suspect a number of members of the outgoing coalition are headed to jail in a smaller version of the Brasilero carwash thing, starting with the losing presidential candidate and including everyone appointed to a position at the refined petroluem products monopoly.

deedbot: dorion_road voiced for 30 minutes.

BingoBoingo: !!up dorion_road

jfw: The split existed historically in that they developed as separate projects; gcc works with multiple c libraries as musl works with multiple compilers. Perhaps mircea_popescu is inquiring into a deeper question of whether it's right to maintain the split (presently - I've no idea)

dorion_road: mircea_popescu is that a rational cut of the work in your view ?

dorion_road: mircea_popescu gcc refers to c compiler, ave1 said he's working on a genesis based on version 4.9.4. By c library I mean the choice essentially between glibc and musl and dynamic and static linking, e.g. http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-27#1953721

deedbot: dorion_road voiced for 30 minutes.

diana_coman: !!up dorion_road

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well the chorros had been taking guns off of girly gops walking the beat for at least a year. Now the dudes get beat. Interesting to see where this'll lead.

deedbot: dorion_road voiced for 30 minutes.

diana_coman: !!up dorion_road

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-27 15:01:28 dorion_road: jfw I know you've spent a good deal of time with musl in the process of getting Gales statically linked , do you think owning the c library is a good fit for you ?

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-27 14:50:04 dorion_road: jfw in your Gales Linux articles, please address bvt's question in his tmsr os article about the mb weight and contents of the bootstrapping/package management/developments tools.

diana_coman: BingoBoingo: fwiw that panamaservers thing failed my very initial filtering hence I didn't even bother jfw or dorion_road about it and the thing with customer service and support doesn't sound that great to me either.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-26 21:56:33 BingoBoingo: jfw dorion_road: Do you know anything about an operation calling itself Panamaservers.com? Of particular interest, is Panama a small enough place you maybe ran into their last Customer service and support manager?

deedbot: dorion_road voiced for 30 minutes.

diana_coman: !!up dorion_road

bvt: dorion_road: the kernel rng vpatch will be finished on this weekend (i have all the components in the benchmarking blogpost, just need to clean things up).

ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-26 19:49:58 dorion_road: lobbes the understanding ebuilds self-assignment is a good starting point in the meantime as the strategy clarifies. How about you explain them to yourself in the form of a blog article(s) ?

ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-26 19:26:28 dorion_road: lobbes Reading your latest plan, looks like auctionbot work remains outstanding useful. How much work/time do you estimate for the auctionbot updates ?

dorion_road: jfw in your Gales Linux articles, please address bvt's question in his tmsr os article about the mb weight and contents of the bootstrapping/package management/developments tools.

dorion_road: ty diana_coman

deedbot: dorion_road voiced for 30 minutes.

diana_coman: !!up dorion_road

diana_coman: ah, it's comment_author for trackback, makes sense.

mircea_popescu: update mpwp_comments set comment_author_url = whatever where comment_author_url = whatever else.

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: do you know where in db are trackback's contents ? I replaced dianacoman.com in posts and in comments, apparently not in trackbacks, hm.

ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-11-25 diana_coman: jfw: here's for you to change direction then, courtesy of Kafka himself.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, http://www.dianacoman.com/blog/2011/06/22/labirintul-vietii/ << from your latest trackaback list.

BingoBoingo: jfw dorion_road: Do you know anything about an operation calling itself Panamaservers.com? Of particular interest, is Panama a small enough place you maybe ran into their last Customer service and support manager?

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Right. The sweep continues.

bvt: mircea_popescu: published & answered

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm trying to get that number up to 500. Sticking with the small got a lot of the same dumb silence I met in 2017.

ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-26 13:29:01 mircea_popescu: conversation, at least among well spoken & intelligent people and in the context of organizing work, very well resembles well written programs for well built machines for the exactly obvious reason : that's what the machine aims to be, a well spoken intelligent person.

dorion_road: mircea_popescu thanks, making it explicit since I'm new here.

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I don't know if I've been this strictly encouraging to read since the War of Life debut.

dorion_road: ty BingoBoingo and diana_coman

deedbot: diana_coman paid danielpbarron invoice 3

deedbot: dorion_road voiced for 30 minutes.

BingoBoingo: !!up dorion_road

deedbot: dorion_road voiced for 30 minutes.

diana_coman: !!up dorion_road

dorion_road: good evening mircea_popescu

dorion_road: lobbes the understanding ebuilds self-assignment is a good starting point in the meantime as the strategy clarifies. How about you explain them to yourself in the form of a blog article(s) ?

jfw: (as dorion_road suggests)

jfw: diana_coman: that needs to be done, yes; I suppose I'd have to do this as my morning writing, if you'd be ok with that

jfw: dorion_road, diana_coman: we're in clear agreement that I should write it up then; think I should make that a priority for this week?

deedbot: dorion_road voiced for 30 minutes.

diana_coman: !!up dorion_road

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-25 21:24:34 trinque: best of luck to dorion_road then. last I heard neither spyked nor lobbes were free until december, and no, I'm not able to maintain the pace of engagement this appears to require.

dorion_road: diana_coman I agree.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-25 18:02:15 jfw: mircea_popescu: a Linux distro, yes, though my understanding was that what we built there was too narrow in hardware and application support to be of more general interest

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-25 17:20:37 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-25#1953471 << well, your cvasi-corp was working on this anyway, wasn;t it.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-25 17:19:40 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-25#1953464 << just don't fucking circumvectamur amore about it, it's how all these other kids died.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-25 17:18:41 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-25#1953458 << nothing new or different, same old thing management always was. write a plan, get people to ~commit~ to parts, chase the commitments, reschedule as needed and so on.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-25 16:03:55 jfw: To update on http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1950766 , I would be more comfortable with 10 hours a week, at least if it's an "intangibles and goodwill" sort of deal. dorion_road was in accord if I recall. And as discussed with spyked, the limited time could provide a good pressure to keep it productive.

deedbot: dorion_road voiced for 30 minutes.

BingoBoingo: !!up dorion_road

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Asia just seems a lot more alien than anywhere else.