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asciilifeform: expect it to take a while.
asciilifeform: later tonight, will begin reading the actual src
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did go and sift through the docs, found 0 mention of write aggregation as an option
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aite, meanwhile i found the prev thread: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-26#1618705 ☝︎
asciilifeform: and incidentally this will also change the semantics of the block-saver, unless somehow kludged around (e.g. via locking) ☟︎
asciilifeform: there is no ready way to make it aware of 'these N writes are to happen at-once'
asciilifeform: (ext4 , asked to write 10,000 files/symlinks, will do the journal dance ~each~ time, rather than once-at-the-end)
asciilifeform: and lack of aggregation is the reason the old shitdb is slow in the 1st place
asciilifeform: the more worrisome bit is that there is NO write aggregation (iirc i mentioned this before)
asciilifeform: trinque et al : the 1 thing that still direly needs testing re 'wires' is for somebody to bring up a fresh node entirely via same
asciilifeform: lemme know if worx
asciilifeform: trinque: you're in
asciilifeform: 'this crud is for the (l)users, not me, wtf'
asciilifeform: ^ is how programmers even sleep at night
asciilifeform: there was gpg parse library.
asciilifeform: incidentally it is how i ended up with a python proggy (phuctor frontend)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is problematic, given http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-26#1606950 ☝︎
asciilifeform: standard cannot be a bolt-on.
asciilifeform: and incidentally freezing also doesn't solve the problem -- there is no written standard, and if there were, it would fill a room and be quite unreadable
asciilifeform: phf's 'this commonlisptron suxxx, i'ma use another' won't work in pythonistan.
asciilifeform: there aren't, in any meaningful sense, multiple implementations.
asciilifeform: gotta underscore trinque's observation, PYTHON IS NOT A LANGUAGE, it is a specific proggy, maintained by specific lamers
asciilifeform: trinque has a mega-point, and unfortunately it applies to ~all of our tooling.
asciilifeform: friend: 'i got you a book for your bday' -- chukcha: 'i already HAVE a book'
asciilifeform: one of the wins from 'N redundant bots' is that nobody has to rely/build on the one made from used dildo
asciilifeform utterly lost in this log
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: and oh, hey, they all hang off one fleanode. if you want to have crying party, can start with that
asciilifeform: at last, somebody built asciilifeform's Arse-Mouth-System!11111
asciilifeform: since when does inquisitor engage in anything like serious debate with heretic ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which point is it that which 'genius of the left' did not dare to argue ?
asciilifeform: so they did not notice.
asciilifeform: i can only suppose that the last plunger mircea_popescu used, was a bit too thin
asciilifeform: escape?
asciilifeform: ^ break with tradition, where 'neither confirm nor deny'
asciilifeform: 'The disclosures “equip our adversaries with tools and information to do us harm,” said Ryan Trapani, a spokesman for the C.I.A. He added that the C.I.A. is legally prohibited from spying on individuals in the United States and “does not do so.”'
asciilifeform: meanwhile, elsewhere in monkeystan,
asciilifeform: didjaknow.
asciilifeform: '"If the President is going to make outlandish claims like this in the future, he needs to know he will be exposed and high-ranking people within the US government -- like the director of our intelligence agencies and the FBI -- will be forced to say the President wasn't telling the truth," the California Democrat said.'
asciilifeform: in other noose, somebody's selling a crate of old usgtrons containing 'clipper chip' on shitbay, lel
asciilifeform bbl..
asciilifeform: ( pet, answering this : 'you promised to fuck hour ago, and instead you are on the console doing this nonsense' )
asciilifeform: one day
asciilifeform: she has a box that wwwiates, and not much else . (mostly lives in paper.)
asciilifeform: she'll be in the next asciilifeform-expedition, then mircea_popescu could ask...
asciilifeform: ( which takes all the sport out!111 )
asciilifeform: answered 'if you want, i'll do it, whatever'
asciilifeform: nope
asciilifeform: must be rationed, for Effective People
asciilifeform: gas for hastings, but not for asciilifeform !11
asciilifeform: which is imho a point
asciilifeform: re other 'sad people', asciilifeform's pet is fond of remarking 'if your work did >0, why you not yet been gassed' ☟︎
asciilifeform: or i'd naively imagine he oughta
asciilifeform: kindergartener knows ☟︎
asciilifeform: ew
asciilifeform: *it
asciilifeform: i dun do much for the sad folx, who know that they have tickets reserved for same wagen
asciilifeform: and the mr.t-uses-snapchat (or what was it) does not exactly disprove.
asciilifeform: fwiw, and i think i mentioned this in the past, asciilifeform's own brother knows what we do here, and likes to say 'futile, people are idiots, nobody will use genuine crypto,' etc
asciilifeform: or similar.
asciilifeform: aha, there is a variant where turning right gets you a wife
asciilifeform: the endgame is eating nagant.
asciilifeform: 'Налево пойдешь - коня потеряешь, Направо пойдешь - жизнь потеряешь; Прямо пойдешь – жив будешь, да себя позабудешь' (tm) (r) (ru fairy tale)
asciilifeform: but has problems interacting with monkeys as if they were people.
asciilifeform: fwiw asciilifeform was 100% 'socially ept' before moved to monkeystan.
asciilifeform: aha, picture it, i could be in there nao, massaging Classification Guides (tm) (r) or somesuch cthonian horror
asciilifeform: !#seen mike_c
asciilifeform: or, say,
asciilifeform: !#seen kmalkki
asciilifeform: what became of the finn.
asciilifeform: e.g. the finn
asciilifeform: while we have this thread: i often come back in my head to the question of why folx visit, and then choose to go back to being-sad. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( for instance, this http://www.loper-os.org/?p=702 ultimately pointless lens grinding, ate most of a year!! )
asciilifeform: i happen to have entire www dedicated to the particular variant of being sad!111
asciilifeform: ..the bottle?
asciilifeform: raises the question, of what the 'knights' are doing instead.
asciilifeform: (i have some notion of what ought ~not~ to go on the table. but 'omit liquishit' does not get you a champion cook title )
asciilifeform: but i'd be the last to know what ought to go on such a table.
asciilifeform: (they ~might~ come to a pre-set table, as mircea_popescu to bitcoin. ~might~)
asciilifeform: and will not appear regardless.
asciilifeform: i even suspect that the ~truly~ capable have formed lethal allergy to entire notion of programming a comp
asciilifeform: noshit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: since we're on subj of 'trbi', i was hoping to see the thread continue, re whether mempools, or whether my particular, or some other, scheme for abolition of mempool can be made to work , and so forth
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tru!
asciilifeform: and 0 interest to the luser reddit folx et al. (why would it)
asciilifeform: i oughta be quite specific re : 'nobody wants'. say i write a trbi, along one of the described schemes. nao wat -- mircea_popescu mines it ? and after this, who will want it ? 'just another premined alt!111' etc.
asciilifeform: the thing that cools asciilifeform's enthusiasm re 'trbi' to somewhere south of 3 kelvin, is that it isn't clear to him that anybody actually wants this, for something
asciilifeform: ( hey nubbins, i dun need the b00k no moar!111!! )
asciilifeform: nao wat.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw at this point i understand (in the arithmetic sense) how it (protocolically) worx
asciilifeform: 'low information voter' (tm) (r) aha
asciilifeform: i dun see a 'third' here
asciilifeform: (seems to flow out of the 'delusion of free will' comment)
asciilifeform: alternatively catch people and trap'em in a cellar and make'em work..
asciilifeform: then either folx solve, or 'humanity too dumb to deserve goodies', what.
asciilifeform: could make, say, updated Open Problems list, say.
asciilifeform: i have deeply nfi, my contact with this species, fwiw, is 0. there is ppm of cockroach in my coffee, and ppm of mouse in my bread, there is 0 of these in my anything afaik.
asciilifeform: the hanging one?
asciilifeform: waiwut ~that~ aaronschwartz?
asciilifeform: so sometimes -- microscope is a hammer, why not.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's grandfather pre-'41 was professor of physics; but post-'41 -- cannoneer. because stalin needed cannoneers.