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phf: what you're saying correlates to what i heard, i don't have an opinion because it always seemed like dark magic to me. i've never clicked on ads, and have hard time groking a person who would. but there's also a disconnect of sorts. i understand literotica hack, it is in some ways similar to okcupid hack, it's a cold call, where you have some idea who's the person on the other side, and you just do it in bulk. online ads seem more like fishing, ex
mircea_popescu: i was like "hey, show me some stats" "uh... i think i have some from like 2013..." "wtf"
mircea_popescu: back in 2005 everyone i knew bought google, and getting banned was like suicide. then in 2010 the lazier / older bought and the younger wolves were moving on. last year [when i was doing eulora marketing] i couldn't find anyone i knew who bought google ads.
phf: i thought for a while, that google makes most of its income (including things like tax breaks and protectorate) through bulk data sale and access, and ads is just a quaint misdirection. anecdotally from people in the affiliate marketing and such circles, the margins on google ads and the profits are so low and have been for about two years now to suspect whole thing of a lie
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would an advertiser pay for this i have no idea, but teh google is mining it to the hilt. and i suspect they're either going to get usg payola or start reporting ever-worsening quarters because they moneyz just isn't there anymore.)
mircea_popescu: anyway, this anecdote certainly gives a good trashing to the whole "gotta upgrade" blabla. why, for "security" ? glhf, the log's chock full of lolz @wp blogs. for what, "looks" ? yarly, i've yet to see that many better looking blogs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l! i have same vintage wp
phf: flask is not standalone though, it's a wsgi service, which in turn is a python standard for doing "web application". there are competing servers for wsgi, uwsgi being most popular. i actually had to patch it for my work production, and it's not a fits in head by any means
mircea_popescu: yeah me either. jus' a stray thought, fully argued i'd say.
phf: i'm just being a silly, i don't have a strong opinion until i see further direction taken
mircea_popescu: actually, it's not even trivial to do a count - i left out trinque and jurov for instance. that makes it 7. it's prolly more like 80% than any specific number.
asciilifeform: mike_c: i have not kept up. i picked up whatever it was i had on my disk in '13
mircea_popescu: if i make alf spend an hour fucking around with python, that's an hour.
mike_c: yeah, but, this upgrade I'm doing is bumping it up 3 major versions because I haven't touched it in years
mike_c: I don't think so. our time would be better spent on gpg than yet another web framework
mike_c: yeah. it's in progress. I started doing it but had to deal with a couple other things. I de-crufted btcalpha and killed half the site (bitbet gone, etc). now i'm halfway through a web framework upgrade which is going to make adding the new wot browser easier.
mike_c: I don't have my keys on me.. so btcalpha will be dead for the next 10 hours. There goes my uptime stats.
shinohai: I see vexual has been indulging in the Foster's again.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-26#1457700 <<< thx I thought it was keybase.io faggotry or something. ☝︎
asciilifeform: curl -s http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/sadmods | grep -c -i " 0 is not prime"
asciilifeform: i sure would.
deedbot: $ curl -s http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/sadmods | grep -c -i " 1 is not prime" is not a command.
asciilifeform: $ curl -s http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/sadmods | grep -c -i " 1 is not prime"
asciilifeform: i try to keep thingz simple. but yeah, after i'm satisfied that the rest works
asciilifeform: i've thought about only displaying hex.
asciilifeform: 'Public Exponent 44942328371557897693232629769725618340449424473557664318357520289433168951375240783177119330601884005280028469967848339414697442203604155623211857659868531094441973356216371319075554900311523529863270738021251442209537670585615720368478277635206809290837627671146574559986811484619929076208839082406056034307 is NOT PRIME !' << i'd like to pin down JUST ONE of these schmucks and connect him to the mains & find out what
asciilifeform: i've been actually piling these up in a special archive for when i have new parser.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-25 22:48 shinohai: Just for shits-n-giggles I tried submitting this key but tells me is not valid: http://dpaste.com/3CCR99V.txt
shinohai: I thought it was hilarious that half of Alabama's infrastructure was shut down today. State holiday, who knew.
shinohai: Just for shits-n-giggles I tried submitting this key but tells me is not valid: http://dpaste.com/3CCR99V.txt ☟︎
asciilifeform: shinohai: not only up but as far as i can tell, up without any interruptions
pete_dushenski: fueled by that killer dice debate, i'm off to the races gents. bon soir a tous!
shinohai: asciilifeform: I can sub,it public key to phuctor or is down?
mircea_popescu: i don't think tissue damage is a drawback for the practitioners.
asciilifeform: i had similar for gurlz
asciilifeform: custom, i take it
mircea_popescu: i never looked into the matter that deeply!
mircea_popescu: hey, film i just reviewed is exactly that!
asciilifeform: i also recall this was used on corpses
asciilifeform: i hear itsthel4t3st
mircea_popescu: o ? i'm slow, what's in ?
phf: hah, well, i'm saying diceware is ~soo~ last year
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't have issue with people using slide rule. i'm reacting to people who are buying slide rules on ebay, because it's the cool retro computational device
asciilifeform: i see dice as a sort of bayonet
mircea_popescu: discussion rapidly becomes a "why would i own a sliderule, i have my computor". well, some people own a slide rule.
mircea_popescu: and i can't blame the man who doesn't trust /urandom
phf: from perspective of general education, it's better hygiene where there wasn't any before. i'm more questioning people who use diceware because they don't trust own /dev/random
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sorta what i was reacting against - the view that dice solve an otherwise rotten environ
mircea_popescu: moreover, i'd say 99% of the people making passwords by throwing dice don't have dd or | on the system, because they're stuck on winblowz.
asciilifeform: it is not that i wish to discourage folks from throwing dice, or dartboard, etc. but that they ought to be aware of the limitations.
phf: i make my tools myself, so script above works on my system, i have sufficient idea of its operation to put it to live munition test.
phf: i do, but he doesn't see mine
asciilifeform: Apr 25 16:45:47 <phf>i think it's collective unconsciousness response to ongoing diddled hardware revelations << exactly that.
mircea_popescu: i do not agree with this theory.
phf: i think it's collective unconsciousness response to ongoing diddled hardware revelations
phf: a dice rng is "defective design". it's all over the place, low tech solution right in the middle of high tech stack. can't make one at home, since bias. wouldn't really make key by hand either. any optimizations turn to logical "why not flip electrons instead". i've noticed the tendency though, friend told me that he's generating work passwords with dicewear
asciilifeform: and i suppose everyone recalls the roulette laser.
asciilifeform: ah i recall.
phf: actually, i'm misremembering. it's someone built a tumbler to test dice bias, your conclusion was that he's testing errors in his OCR
asciilifeform: i'd be quite surprised if it were virgin
jurov: oh i forgot to specify "it should be non-obvious"
mircea_popescu: jurov i'll make it with 4 faces.
jurov: you're welcome to make a specifically worn dice that produces only ~2 bits of entropy. i suspect that would be very hard.
mircea_popescu: which is why i said maybe.
jurov: if it's like 20% as i wrote above, then it's still fine, no?
jurov: and i am asking you how much bias do you usually estimate and why?
jurov: i just explained how i understood it?
asciilifeform: jurov: try to understand what i meant
asciilifeform: the other thing is, i have found that dice appeal to folks because 'not electronic', but these same people then go and generate, e.g., the key, with a computer...
danielpbarron: and you probably have to roll the same die 3 times as opposed to rolling 3 dice once, unless there's something i'm missing in all this
asciilifeform: i can see generating, e.g., bitcoin private key (though do you have the stomach for the debiasing? what if you need 1,000 rolls?)
asciilifeform: i admit that i'm a little curious re the widespread interest in dice
pete_dushenski: aha. that. ya, i've been meaning to try it.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-25#1457430 <<< dunno pete_dushenski, I was just using funkenstein's patch ☝︎
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i should prolly write up birth. anyone seen it ?
pete_dushenski: actually, come to think of it, i think girl had these ballz, or similar, during pregnancy. big fan.
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ben+Wa+Balls | Shiny cold balls put in your Va jay jay to tighten pussy muscles so you can squeeze ... Excuse me ma'am, I think those are your Ben Wa Balls rolling towards the ...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the first time i saw the chinese ballz, i thought that this is what they were sold for !
asciilifeform: as a kid i just had a big bottle of ball bearings
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i saw this
pete_dushenski: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71nKwu2REIL._SX522_.jpg << anyone remember these as a kid ? hilariously entertaining rube goldberg-style marble toy
pete_dushenski: https://t.co/REyYaQFpVG << sort of how i imagine stan would react if fired without sufficient cause. except with crays or whatever he twerks on.
mircea_popescu: ftr asciilifeform my current antispam arrangements work splendidly. i get maybe 2-3 items a day i have to look at, which is a-ok. 99.97% ish i never see.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i don't think anyone's using kelvin versioning on trb
pete_dushenski: phf: loving the new search. think you could add a button or link back to the logs so i don't have to diddle the url every time ? ☟︎
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-24#1456937 << i would've done ~something~ that's for damn sure ☝︎
pete_dushenski: sorry to be away so much of late, been swamped this spring. not that i mind, just not as much forum time atm.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> it's what a disinterested mark would politely say to an inept would-be chump manager. i guess the english speakers don't say anything. <- not as directly, no. Possibly something like "it might work," lol
mircea_popescu: "i ain't buyin' it" i guess, here.
mircea_popescu: it's what a disinterested mark would politely say to an inept would-be chump manager. i guess the english speakers don't say anything.
mircea_popescu: phf i have shopping slaves. SO THERE!
asciilifeform: i had one in usa and until recently carried
phf: i cary avoska to stores..
mircea_popescu: when it decides to fucking split at the seam and now i have raisined kitchen floor ;/
mircea_popescu: so i'm, holding a one pound bag of raisins, "industria argentina" of course,
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i think i'm coming to an actually correct definition of trolling. trolling is the act of providing needed context separated from the message, in a place where the naive reader (who most needs it) is least likely to find or recognize it.
mircea_popescu: i dun recall teh specifix.
mircea_popescu: hehehehe. i didn't see that one coming.
asciilifeform: i want to know, in what sewer was born the rat who thought it was acceptable to break lines on nonwhitespace characters.
mod6: fwiw, i really like wotpaste tho. works great