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a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 18:42 asciilifeform: for so long as 'you can't buy this video board any moar' is a thing, at ALL, there neither is nor can be such a thing as sane driver set.
mircea_popescu: maybe he could be kim jong up from now on. and he could have a son and name him kim dong down
mircea_popescu: tbh i like kim jong up a lot better.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, this is not terribly related. "whether it's a collie or a terrier it still bit me"
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 18:33 Framedragger: re gentoo etc: what of e.g. freebsd, a very nice distro with a monolithic kernel+libc, good documentation, maintenance etc
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485741 << BingoBoingo keeps the bsd flame alive, and others maybe (mod6 ?) but... it's really a murky point yet. ☝︎
asciilifeform: the interesting bit re dos is that it was felled precisely by the same hardware tower of babel which gave us a multi-MB linux turdkernel
mircea_popescu: the path to bitcoinfs intersects a tmsr-os/loper-os/whatever-we-end-up-calling-it-os, just...
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 18:23 phf: i'm about to provision another machine based on asciilifeform's gentoo depotatoing, but i really wish tmsr had a better official distro
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485728 << it's a large project and generally not a ripe fruit yet, i don't think, but yes. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 17:39 trinque: if I can avoid working on a btcalpha replacement I'll be hacking on the payment system for deedbot
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485691 << this is a major win, you'll have to publish the thing. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: recall, jurov parsed all of github, produced a pile of keys and the convertor code ☟︎
mircea_popescu: we'll need a convertor anyway, the problem of non-compliant rsa implementation isn't going to go away suddenyl.
mircea_popescu: jurov if you dun feel like it, give it a little and Framedragger will make his thing a thing.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 20:43 asciilifeform: Framedragger: if you send me a tarball, they'll go in wholesale.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-16 15:41 asciilifeform: this incidentally is why phuctor had been a depressing thing for me. the thing i set out to find, i never found (evidence of diddled rng on pgp users' boxes.)
mircea_popescu: altogether not a bad idea.
mircea_popescu: in other news, apparently the uk is looking at legal options to implement a recursive splitting from the eu and subsequently drain all euros.
trinque does a deedbot deploy for whitespace trimming around commands
deedbot: [Qntra] Hoaxtoshi Update: Journalist Swindled Into Writing A #Longread - http://qntra.net/2016/06/hoaxtoshi-update-journalist-swindled-into-writing-a-longread/
asciilifeform: 'The tests will potentially knock out all GPS-reliant services including WAAS, GBAS and, notably, ADS-B. The FAA also doesn’t want a lot of radio chatter about the outages and is urging pilots to report them if they need help from ATC. Operators of Embraer Phenom 300 business jets are being urged to avoid the area entirely. “Due to GPS Interference impacts potentially affecting Embraer 300 aircraft flight stability controls, FAA
asciilifeform: but by this time Research Publications, a Connecticut company, had sent it along with other microfiched documents to libraries across the country. The microfiche weren’t recalled after a government decision – it’s not clear by whom – that it would arouse attention. '
asciilifeform: 'NSC 26/2 was mistakenly declassified in 1985 by an archivist at the Truman Presidential Library which is part of the National Archives and Records Administration. A library official in a legal deposition deemed it the worst security breach in the National Archives’ history. A furious CIA demanded the archivist be fired, but he remained a library employee after losing his top-secret clearance. NSC 26/2 was reclassified top secret,
thestringpuller: "You know, I spend a lot of time, you know, thinking about all the shit I could've done. I mean, I wake up in the morning and I think, I could've been the motherfucking president. Shit. Nigga, I wish things had've been different. I mean, I'd do anything in the motherfucking world just for things to be different. I guess I'm just gonna be raping niggas' asses for the rest of my motherfucking life." - Random Prisoner Who Thought He Woul
thestringpuller: of course the cost of that is your life. sometimes a prisoner would rather have dick up butt than shiv in kidney.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: there is always a 3rd option, 'fight to the death'.
thestringpuller: like if you HAD to have a dick up your butthole.
thestringpuller: not even just a little dick up the butthole?
phf: Framedragger: despite the rhetoric people here are extremely pragmatic. but when you think about these things there's no reason to allow sloppy thinking. the question is "how much of a dick up your ass is too much dick", and the healthy answer is "none at all". llvm is good technology (it gives you same kind of layering that a decent common lisp compiler does, but for languages that are not used to that kind of richness, so everyone's excited abou ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: 'i rode a tank, held a general's rank, while the blitzkrieg rages and the bodies stank...' (tm) (r)
trinque: moreover if you don't have a plan to march from A to B, B is pointless to consider strategically
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: we had this thread also a dozen times.
asciilifeform: (see logz, we had at least half a dozen 'if fpga actually existed' threads.)
asciilifeform: for so long as 'you can't buy this video board any moar' is a thing, at ALL, there neither is nor can be such a thing as sane driver set. ☟︎
Framedragger on and off but generally not old enough to join the club. the documentation is a piece of work though..
Framedragger: asciilifeform: that's a misuse of slippery slope i think; i could e.g. say then that any "concept" is not "stable" and not "truly ontologically grounded" or whatever. but i guess there's actual stuff / critique to be said about stability of hardware in particular, so, fair enough i guess
asciilifeform: Framedragger: because it is a political instrument of the enemy. ☟︎
asciilifeform: likewise, slow clocks of the time made 'compilation must be a form of caching strictly' likewise unthinkable.
Framedragger: re gentoo etc: what of e.g. freebsd, a very nice distro with a monolithic kernel+libc, good documentation, maintenance etc ☟︎
asciilifeform: point being, the higher-level stuff is interesting and useful, but the foundations are crud. mainly, cost of memory and disk at the time made orthogonal persistence a largely unthinkable thing.
phf: well, it can be rebuilt as a staging platform, sort of like instead of building own city, can just use the carcass of a roman settlement. it's not rome, but with some study can understand rome nature and work towards that.
asciilifeform: but smbx lispm was actually a terrific crock of shit, implementation-wise
asciilifeform: unlikely to happen. unix is a half-dead thing, like pgp.
phf: i'm about to provision another machine based on asciilifeform's gentoo depotatoing, but i really wish tmsr had a better official distro ☟︎
trinque: if I can avoid working on a btcalpha replacement I'll be hacking on the payment system for deedbot ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 17:30 mats: oh, right, i'm not a person anymoar
mats: oh, right, i'm not a person anymoar ☟︎
phf: it's such a simple feature it should really work all the way back to IE5 or whatever
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 12:29 thestringpuller: phf: random thought. is it possible to highlight lines when linked to a log with a direct line?
mircea_popescu: anyway, ima bbl. if the various journos that kept wanting interviews do manage to find their way to the internet, keep 'em warm ima be back in a few hours.
mircea_popescu: "|well, this line is because one idiot put a bug in in march 2015. this one april. these fifteen may. etc. it's all needed"
mircea_popescu: but the lulziest part : their "solution" consists of a blacklist to be baked into code forevermore!
Framedragger: asciilifeform: if it's a regular rdbms i guess you can at least pipeline it in the db itself, e.g. https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/queries-with.html - but i imagine the bottleneck is not exactly there
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485617 << nice. these will stoke the furnace for a very long time. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform part of the "import a sig" chain, see what phuctor says.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 04:23 phf: which is handy if you're using something else to produce the patch, or if you need to use a non-trivial diff command. for example i sometimes need to exclude files from diffing, so a command might look like diff -x foo -x bar -x qux -ruN a b | grep -v '^Binary files ' | vdiff > foo.vpatch
mircea_popescu: a cool.
shinohai: lol I just realized that gatecoin was a "partner" of slock.it
KGery: Okay, will try again after a while
mircea_popescu: KGery well, give it a few hours we'll see wtf this is.
shinohai: Chesscoin: A giant premined ico turd with only 4096 blocks of scrypt pow
mircea_popescu: yes you get discounts if you do a lot of international settlements, but still.
mircea_popescu: "a transaction" ie, "pay from these 500 accounts to these 500 accounts" is not ONE wire. it's 1001 wires.
mircea_popescu: such a worldy man as roger ver should fucking know what that costs.
mircea_popescu: he should try sending a 50kb wire sometime.
thestringpuller: Which is a 48kb transaction
thestringpuller: Congratulations small blockers, Bitcoin is now more expensive than an international bank wire transfer in some cases. Here is a $50 tx fee paid for a single transaction
mircea_popescu: much like that slock muppet isn't coming out with a "we fucked it all up, i'm unqualified to trim hedges" suicide note.
thestringpuller: "After researching Bitcoin, Buterin wanted to get his hands on some so he could formally join this new, experimental economy, but he had neither the cash to buy them, nor the computing power necessary to mine them himself. Instead he searched the online Bitcoin forums until he found someone who was willing to pay him in bitcoin for contributing to a blog. Every post earned him 5 bitcoins."
thestringpuller: phf: random thought. is it possible to highlight lines when linked to a log with a direct line? ☟︎
thestringpuller: "I think we're soon going to see discussions of liability consume this community in a way that makes the MtGox fiasco look simple by comparison -- because it was, in terms of liability."
thestringpuller: Okay, so CCO Stephan Tual is waking him off and tries to "do work", by creating slock.it. Slock it is a company who's flagship vaporware is the Slock connected to an "Ethereum Computer". The Slock is a lock based on a smart contract, that unlocks a door when someone pays enough Ether via a hub like AirBNB. So called making "rentals" automated. They release the DAO and pump that to crowdfund their computer. The DAO gets hacked and they
mircea_popescu: the cheek of the usg agents, you know. "legal system" czar gave them the note signed by hitler, they perceive responsibility as a thing of the past.
shinohai: I have a few of those dongles, have always loved tagging pulsars with it
Framedragger: shinohai: nice. also, i just remembered probing one of those software defined radios on the internet, and hearing this high frequency thing. checked, it said it was some pulsar. that thing out there doing full 360 degree spins in less than a second, and us hearing it.. cool stuff
mircea_popescu: "I will buy Ether from any users who rage quit because of a hard fork. It won't be much because most opposition here is from non-stakeholders trying to deny stakeholders their right to self determination." << that's how http://trilema.com/2015/the-definitive-sovereign/ 's "the people themselves" is called now ? "right to self determination" ?
Framedragger: "recursive call contracts" must some phrase out of a 1980s cyberpunk book
mircea_popescu: shinohai i still dunno if that's a good or a bad for bit-card
shinohai: ;;later tell mircea_popescu I sense a thaw in relations now: http://archive.is/hbqvK "Gibe monies plox"
felipelalli: (sorry, I'm a little drunk) https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4ox7re/as_a_bitcoin_hodler_i_beg_please_make_the_fork/
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] The lighter side of Russia. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/06/19/the-lighter-side-of-russia/
phf: which is handy if you're using something else to produce the patch, or if you need to use a non-trivial diff command. for example i sometimes need to exclude files from diffing, so a command might look like diff -x foo -x bar -x qux -ruN a b | grep -v '^Binary files ' | vdiff > foo.vpatch ☟︎☟︎☟︎
phf: and the other one, and main reason for posting, is that you can use it in a pipe. like diff -uNr a b | vdiff to vdiffy-y any regular patch
phf: of the two changes, it makes sure to close the cmd, which is a bug on bsd awks (or rather a defense against permissive gnu awk) the descriptors are kept open for each of the cmd's eventually running into open file limit
phf: for interested parties, i have a modified version of vdiff. http://paste.lisp.org/display/318813 (this one is mac specific, so if your shasum is different command you need to patch that, otherwise it should be portable)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log-top-posters?start-date=2016-05-20 << apparently this has been going on for a while nao!
mircea_popescu: A smaller tool is dangerous too, but for a completely different reason: it tries to do what you tell it to, and fails in some way that is unpredictable and almost always undesirable. But the Hole Hawg is like the genie of the ancient fairy tales, who carries out his master's instructions literally and precisely and with unlimited power, often with disastrous, unforeseen consequences.
mircea_popescu: But I never blamed the Hole Hawg; I blamed myself. The Hole Hawg is dangerous because it does exactly what you tell it to. It is not bound by the physical limitations that are inherent in a cheap drill, and neither is it limited by safety interlocks that might be built into a homeowner's product by a liability-conscious manufacturer. The danger lies not in the machine itself but in the user's failure to envision the full cons
mircea_popescu: t use it. After a few such run-ins, when I got ready to use the Hole Hawg my heart actually began to pound with atavistic terror.
mircea_popescu: ge bit around, and had stalled at the slightest obstruction, the Hole Hawg rotated with the stupid consistency of a spinning planet. When the hole saw seized up, the Hole Hawg spun itself and me around, and crushed one of my hands between the steel pipe handle and a joist, producing a few lacerations, each surrounded by a wide corona of deeply bruised flesh. It also bent the hole saw itself, though not so badly that I couldn'
mircea_popescu: I myself used a Hole Hawg to drill many holes through studs, which it did as a blender chops cabbage. I also used it to cut a few six-inch-diameter holes through an old lath-and-plaster ceiling. I chucked in a new hole saw, went up to the second story, reached down between the newly installed floor joists, and began to cut through the first-floor ceiling below. Where my homeowner's drill had labored and whined to spin the hu
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And not that the unreadability to them is a virtue. They can all discuss it with the confidence it was unread.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's a well trod and very lulzy path
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo vaguely reminds me of a badling ballmer going apeshit (literally, grunting and chimping out) on stage to try an' retain some attention if naught else.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485404 << likely. back when i was in the us a decade ago, a very visible 1/3 of tools had a very nailpolish-and-high heels value ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485378 << this is a good point, the good times won't last forever. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Asking trades people in don't drink club about suggested replacement tools some think a few America brand's tools were improved by being swept into the Techtronics juggernaut, but... will have to see
BingoBoingo: Which makes the abomination of a chuck even harder to forgive.
asciilifeform: i've always almost wanted to put together a 'ithasplasticgears.com' public shame list.