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mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815945 << i actually get the comments rss feed as pms from deedbot, so i never miss any. tip top feature. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 16:08 esthlos: now for your comments: getting rid of the defpackage was a bad oversight, no real reason. My guess why gpg is failing is because I'm using 2.2.4 while I think most of you guys use 1.x . Moving to 1.x is on my backlog, but it was deprioritized becasue I didn't want to spend the time converting my keys. Another oversight, I suppose
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815940 << 2.x is specifically blacklisted. can't use that. ☝︎
mod6: let's take the rockchip discussion into #pizarro
mod6: is it specifically about the rockchip? or v?
douchebag: would anyone mind chatting with me via PM so I don't shit up the logs asking questions about how to get everything on this gentoo box sorted? I have minimal expereince working with gentoo so I have quite a few questions
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 16:03 esthlos: if I need to be able to respond within a day to work with you guys, I will do my best to change things around
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815938 << depends what you do, but not generally ~needed~, even though obviously the faster you move the faster oyu move. but -- the highlight name point is sound. ☝︎
esthlos: ah true, no point in generating flow for antecedents, etc
mod6: well, not always based on flow, but it might be, depending on the operation, otherwise the map is used to traverse, sometimes.
esthlos: yep mod6, that's effectively what I'll be doing.
mod6: for instance, my thing basically checks all people in the current wot, then verifies the seals based upon the current wot, then build a map, from which I build a flow. then all operations take place fro mthat.
trinque: yep, totally.
esthlos: mmk, thanks
esthlos: ok, and to that point, should EVERY operation spitting out vpatches (flow, antecedents, and so on) check all vpatches for sig?
mod6: yes, should error immediately. thats what mine does anyway.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 20:19 mod6: Don't be like me, set your system time, first thing, diana_coman.
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-03#1808420 << note what asciilifeform says below that too ☝︎
mod6: Do that, then try again.
mod6: Did you ever set the system time?
mod6: for god sake man, please, just learn how to use p.bvulpes.com.
mod6: WoT is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans.
douchebag: Forsure, I should have got to working on this earlier. I've just been incredibly busy lately with finals for college, work, and preparing to move overseas in about 2.5 weeks
mod6: douchebag: you just happen to be the first one. That's all, could have been anyone.
mod6: He'll let us know, which is fine. But overall, it's best to try to get a clear understanding of how to handle these now.
douchebag: But right now I'm setting up nginx + php + mysql on the bbox
mod6: I agree, which why, if you read above, I'm posing the question to our customer, mircea_popescu.
diana_coman: mod6, you do have a say; but you have your say with the one paying for the box!
mod6: So, what we're saying then is, if someone rents a box for someone else, and that someone else gets neg-rated, then it's up to the renter to figure it out? What if the renter says, "hey fuck what pizarro and its customers think". Does Pizarro not have a say in it's own customer usage then?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 18:30 mircea_popescu: but logically, would you really want to rent your garage to anyone ANY of your friends think is no good ?
lobbes: mod6: ah okay. logline you originally posted was phrased as a question, but reading further I see now that it resolves to the 'negrate from -any one- lord disqualifies': http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-03#1808202 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <mod6> could have been you, renting it for person X. Person X is under your wing, so to speak. << At your mercy is more like it
BingoBoingo: <mod6> diana_coman: i simply mean, mircea_popescu rented the thing for the guy. 'tis all. << MP rented the thing because the guy can't
mod6: could have been you, renting it for person X. Person X is under your wing, so to speak.
BingoBoingo: If you have been disenfranchised, the case is that yes, you have to have others do thing for you because you can't (MP in the case of leasing the rockchip douchebag uses)
mod6: diana_coman: i simply mean, mircea_popescu rented the thing for the guy. 'tis all. ☟︎
mod6: This is all why this discussion is needed. Because it's a pretty inflexible rule, as it stands.
BingoBoingo: mod6: But in the case the negrated fellow isn't leasing the chip. MP is.
diana_coman: well yes, but first and foremost: what does it meant then "it's X's person"?
mod6: Pizarro shall follow the rule and remove access to that scammer. Simple as that.
diana_coman: then you go and talk to mircea_popescu , yes
mod6: This is overall dubious then. If someone scams me, and I neg-rate them, but their mircea_popescu's person in question, then what? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: If I recall it was MP that rented the rockchip for douchebag. ☟︎
diana_coman: mod6, my reading is that pizarro does business with mp here though, not with douchebag
mod6: douchebag: scroll up, said somethings, or just check the log
diana_coman: lobbes, there is no positive cancels negative; for starters, it's not a sum
mod6: Read that log post that I pasted above. That is the current rule.
mod6: but this is strictly un-republican, and un-verified.
mod6: in a pinch -- you could always try to just : `patch -F 0 -E -p1 < mp-wp_genesis.vpatch` in some directory and just inflate the thing.
mod6: so douchebag: nope that's not working, if it fails like that, just blow away your press dir, whatever is there is no good.
mod6: hanbot: how are you currently pressing mpwp, what tools should douchebag use for this?
mod6: this is what brought on the whole thing about phf doing his v stuffs or whatever.
mod6: yeah, my v doesn't work with that thing.
douchebag: okay, I think it's working! yay
mod6: When you see it in the flow, then you should be good. Then you'll have to do : ./v.pl p v mpwp mp-wp_genesis.vpatch pd mpwp sd .mpwp-seals ☟︎
BingoBoingo: I assume she was hit while wandering aimlessly in traffic as the zombies tend to do here ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 03:43 mircea_popescu: if that guy's not wearing brown underwear now...
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815871 << Tuesday I was on the bus and we went past and ambulance. Behind the ambulance was an old lady bleeding profusely from the head, head propped up on... CARDBOARD. ☝︎
mod6: or whatever you named the different seals dir.
mod6: then the command would be like: ./v.pl f pd mpwp sd .mpwp-seals
douchebag: no, i'll create that right now
mod6: cause you will need that.
mod6: crud, one sec. im guessing you have a separate .seals dir for the mpwp vpatch too right?
douchebag: it ran the command, no output. going to try verbose
mod6: see what it tells you
mod6: ok try this: ./v.pl f pd mpwp
danielpbarron: i don't know exacts, but you were talking back to me over in lrh around the same time you were polluting snr in here, and my +1 was preventing others from !!downing you
mod6: I would say, focus on trinque's task list. Then read back on the other neg ratings given and see if some repair can be done to your wot-status.
douchebag: danielpbarron: what's the exact reason you negrated me?
danielpbarron: i'm not married to the rating, will consider arguments
danielpbarron: looks like mp and lobbes more than balance it out though. +2 from each
trinque: and douchebag, sounds like you have another lord from whom to ask forgiveness; pizarro account is still in peril
mod6: Depends on the audience maybe.
douchebag: If I'm going to run a blog, wouldn't it make sense to have a domain name that's easy to remember?
danielpbarron: i also have him at -1 for mouthing off to me in the eftard channel
douchebag: do you guys think douchebag.press is a good domain name? ☟︎
trinque: wasn't that about the same guy? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 14:37 mircea_popescu: anyway, whadda ya think mod6 , can we get him back to positive rating ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:16 mod6: Because I don't want us to ever ask someone about things such as this; their rating of someone.
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816003 << it's not always wrong to ask about ratings (that is, asking if they can be changed) -- see: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-29#1790898 ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 18:27 mod6: anyone? or any TMSR lord?
lobbes: re wot: I mean, the serenity of leveraging the wot, imho, is that it is a purely individual-to-individual thing by design. In this case, you have Pizarro (P) who has customer relationships with MP and D. D has been negrated by T on the basis of Tx. MP can either decide 1) Tx means enough to request P get rid of D, in which case P now determines if it values MP or D moar, or 2) MP decides Tx does not mean enough to request P get rid of D.
mod6: What is it complainig about? Btw, I'm not sure that this projct even works with my version of V.
douchebag: No, I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong right now
douchebag: right now, I just threw that up so that I have something at least ☟︎
douchebag: I need to get a domain now, and get mpwp setup
mod6: Alright, sounds good trinque.
trinque: mod6: means from where my butt sits, if it's tomorrow, I pull the trigger. so get crackin
trinque: mod6: the example's illustrated for logs, and now e can discuss it
trinque: douchebag: tomorrow comes and no post, negrated and that's that.
mod6: Well... see, this is not really how it should be. Don't let ole mod6 talk ya down.
trinque: mod6: since his remedy involves access to a place to post the report, I'll give it until the end of the day, which is ample time to get a blog up and a post (even incomplete, so what) up. ☟︎
mod6: And what I should have said is: In light of the douchebag being neg-rated by a someone, a TMSR~ Lord especially, douchebag will be removed from access. This may change if his status changes.
trinque: mod6: I don't mean there's an actual contract, just referencing the notion of "cure period"
trinque: because dick-pulling comes before the republic. immature bullshit to be weeded out. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 03:43 douchebag: Alright, I can have that done in the next week or so. I'm currently using the rockchip box to host a webpage to troll someone, so I want the lulz there to continue to it's full potential
trinque: the intent here is to force him to make good on his word. earlier he said the rockchip was going to be a tool to get acquainted with trb, and now it's http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815869 ☝︎
mod6: Because I don't want us to ever ask someone about things such as this; their rating of someone. ☟︎
mod6: Was just trying to avoid (perhaps stupidly) some Pizarro gyrations.
mod6: There is no contract here. I don't want to ask anyone about their ratings. Perhaps I shouldn't have asked what I asked there above. ☟︎