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lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell ben_vulpes is there a problem with the invoice ? ( aside from the fact that i forgot the 36 usd fee , in it ) ? how come i'm still waiting ?
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell BingoBoingo http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/20/how-do-you-want-to-be-memorialized/#comment-115095
asciilifeform: by ~that~ measure it was dead 3+y ago , when it turned to openly infecting the stored tarballs ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i honestly can't say what not dead is this ; it's off the web, it's off the web. "oh but it shows up on ipnoje". sooo ?
mircea_popescu: hey, i got good news for you : a) BingoBoingo escaped to uruguay on the strength of pizarro ; and diana_coman started her s.mg career as an effectual player.
Mocky: I don't think my pending invention of inverted waffle iron plates is going to make me rich
mircea_popescu: i dunno, maybe time to leave mordor ?
Mocky: being a Habeeb has been hell, since 9/11. I quit flying cuz of the "special pat down" treatment. I guess TSA loves that name tho, lol
mircea_popescu: why the hell not ?
mircea_popescu: does the guy have the coolest name or what.
asciilifeform: in unrelated noose, http://www.good-display.com << possibly world's slowest commercial www ( chinese parts supplier asciilifeform was trying to search catalogue of ) , it makes ~version 1~ phuctor seem fast by comparison
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 19:49 mircea_popescu: ~technically~ pizarro is blocked (rather, protected) from the need to act by, indeed as pointed out, i having rented it in my own name. "for him" or not, pizarro's not held to care. but this was a palliative in place specifically because i expected something in this vein, the fellow is very phenomena-driven, sorta like the brains of frogs only work when there's ligjht bombarding the retinas and thereby powering the rest of th
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816251 << classic example of the 'frog brain' ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816160 ) . i.e. as if we have no hands and could not use search engine, and it had to wait for him. ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: i for one have noticed no symptoms of educability , thus far, in douchebag . but he's not my pupil, he's mircea_popescu's , when mircea_popescu has had his fill, he will throw him out .
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:50 BingoBoingo: If I recall it was MP that rented the rockchip for douchebag.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816065 http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816072 etc << this crapola doesn't even display properly on my terminal, and i refuse to fiddle with it to read it, d00d was warned repeatedly to stop spewing nonsearchable, nontextrenderable screenshit liquishit , and yet persists ☝︎☝︎
Mocky: mircea_popescu, i'm fine with that
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sadly not dead; merely ( and along with growing list of assorted usg.derps ) blocks the bot
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:52 mod6: diana_coman: i simply mean, mircea_popescu rented the thing for the guy. 'tis all.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816104 << you only know this as a courtesy, it's not something you can rely on knowing. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 18:30 asciilifeform: i suppose if adlai or karpeles or whoever wants to put on a mask and pretend to be a eulora-playing tits chix for years, there's no real damage
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:50 mod6: This is overall dubious then. If someone scams me, and I neg-rate them, but their mircea_popescu's person in question, then what?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816097 << the reason this exists is because you have no way around the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-03#1808200 ; guy could just register a new name, get a rating from anyone willing to, and there you go. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816090 << depends the rule for what. but no, generally the fact that you're dearly beloved by the baker doesn't "cancel out" your raping the plumber's daugther. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:42 BingoBoingo: I assume she was hit while wandering aimlessly in traffic as the zombies tend to do here
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816079 << i expect. you should see these idiots, biking with no lights, dressed in camuflage gear (srsly dorky, black shit because white's too hard to wash, still see no reason you shouldn't be out at night ?) on the side of the fucking highway. what, problem ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 12:02 spyked: lobbes, I am curious: how do you have lobbesbot self-voice then? do you do it manually?
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815918 << It actually never occured to me to use the "many OTPs stored for later use" trick that trinque mentioned, which is pretty spiffy indeed (I may start doing just this). But to answer your question: lobbesbot's only involvement in my archive process is to listen to irc and insert urls it comes across into a sqlite3 db. That database is then 'shipped off' to separ ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 20:21 mircea_popescu: btw lobbes, let me ask you this : when is a door not a door ?
mod6: douchebag: A few finer points on the matter. 1] p.bvulpes.com pastes are archived (thanks lobbes!), which help for future trips through old logs. 2] Not everyone who can help is always on a machine with a gui capable of viewing images.
mod6: To be fair on that point, I would have asked him for approx the same information.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816065 << normally i'd have said "don't use fucking screencaps wtf is wrong with you", but in this case i doubt a proper paste could have risen to the required heights of lul. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:34 trinque: this is a pretty shitty reputation all around.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816056 << dang, he sure got well banged up, didn't he. yo douchebag , why do you have so much trouble working with people ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i had nfi they made a .press tld ; i expect they made it for the "journalism", but of course that being dead and presses being a thing...
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:29 douchebag: do you guys think douchebag.press is a good domain name?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:28 trinque: wasn't that about the same guy?
mircea_popescu: mod6, tons of annoying grep-captured scripts out there to handle the nothing found case.
mircea_popescu: (i don't mean, "i can't read headings, help me out" ; i mean : for the present headings, are these all the vulns known ? by ~whom~ (ie, what source used) ?)
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:23 douchebag: right now, I just threw that up so that I have something at least
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816023 << ahaha check that out. hey douchebag , is that list complete ? :D ☝︎
mod6: Learned that about a week ago, and felt preeeety sheepish.
mod6: Ah yeah. If i grep for "foo" and it isn't found. It just hands you back your shell. Which I just always thought "oh, nothing found". But this is actually a non-zero return code.
danielpbarron: i think the only change i made there is <code> to <pre> on the gpg thing
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:20 trinque: mod6: since his remedy involves access to a place to post the report, I'll give it until the end of the day, which is ample time to get a blog up and a post (even incomplete, so what) up.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816009 << if he manages to stand up a blog in a day i'll fucking fall over. ☝︎
mod6: on that note, am I the only one that didn't know that grep returns (technically) an error if something doens't match your pattern?
mircea_popescu: who the fuck headshat that one!
mircea_popescu: no, i just expect v is verbose everywhere, and know it's in your case by that sure sign, that i've not bitched at you about it! :D
mod6: You've read the docs & use my vtron enough to know this!
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:17 trinque: because dick-pulling comes before the republic. immature bullshit to be weeded out.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816006 << i'm not even sure he has a clear distinction between the two ; and amusingly enough that difference, whether present, it's not even a fundamental. it only emerges from context. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:07 trinque: douchebag: since I can read, I can see a spurious "v" in that command
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815989 << no, that's verbose. << this is awesome ☝︎
mod6: lol mircea_popescu, I haven't heard that song in quite a while.
mod6: Better to hash it out now, than to be surprised later.
mod6: Sure, BingoBoingo. Just a solid test case against the rule formulated earlier. That's all this is.
BingoBoingo: Anyways there is a difference between a "-1 inquire within" and a "-10 social death sentence"
mircea_popescu: mod6, "i got friends... they're multiplyin'... an' i'm loooosin'... control!"
mircea_popescu: whether you can lean on people to chainge their ratings is iffier, and very much depends on your relationship. but the logs are full of this also.
mod6: lol, "if it were not for your ``friends'' I would think that this was a normal chat site"
mircea_popescu: and you most definitely ~can~ ask anyone about their rating. the whole fucking thing is built on nothing besides this, http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/#selection-131.113-131.167
mod6: yeah, exactly. glad I brought it up. our first test of this.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:15 mod6: There is no contract here. I don't want to ask anyone about their ratings. Perhaps I shouldn't have asked what I asked there above.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:13 esthlos: to butt in: should only patches with good seals show in the flow?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815997 << that's the whole point ; ~however~ the thinking is that the user should be warned (and pressing should stop) if there are invalid signatures in his .seals dir, ~because~ it is not expected he'd have put them there, so something needs humnan eyes. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:07 trinque: douchebag: since I can read, I can see a spurious "v" in that command
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815989 << no, that's verbose. ☝︎
mod6: douchebag: you'll have to follow what hanbot is posting here for that mpwp part.
mircea_popescu: and boy howdy, does anyone on earth, including its subinept management, derive more fucking value from the fetlife holding pens than yours truly.
mod6: hanbot: awesome, thanks!
mircea_popescu: here's a direct sample in this vein : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/4xtpc/?raw=true . for most children, the first experience with negative reinforcement comes through their attempt to manipulate the processes around to avoid negative reinforcement.
hanbot: <mod6> hanbot: how are you currently pressing mpwp, what tools should douchebag use for this? << pressed with http://barksinthewind.com/2018/vtools-keccak-regrind/ (only those patches on the left branch of http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=vtools&search= ).
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/20/how-do-you-want-to-be-memorialized/ << Bingo Blog - How Do You Want To Be Memorialized?
mircea_popescu: in other words : providing someone being punished for weaselbehaviour with a specified mechanism to weasel further helps them by removing the ~defining~ of the weaselbehaviour from their hands, which is the first step towards becoming sane already.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 17:13 mircea_popescu: a right right, i forgot that part! kalash == maitenance is an act of love and devotion, not a matter of necessity. this is deeper than it sounds, consider this recent exchange : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/NQRtP/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:04 trinque: mod6: if I tell you, I'm giving someone I'm already punishing for weaselbehavior a defined mechanism to weasel further
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815984 << hence the "only part missing is installing mpwp" solution, which in itself is lulzy. BUT, the sad fact of the matter is, trinque , that the beginnings of education and the refusal of education are strictly indistinguishable. let's leave this be and consider the case of girly in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-19#1815550 : if i were to reject her on the basis of her initial advances ☝︎☝︎
hanbot: yeah. in short, i'm not averse to trying, and now and then do dive in the soup to see. i pretty much emerge with piss variously lodged in my eyesockets and zero pearls.
mod6: I think that may be a workable solution.
mod6: mircea_popescu: ah, thanks for the quick responses here.
mircea_popescu: but if you're looking for actionable practicalia, you could do something like, "well, we'll consider the matter whenever it becomes salient. such as when someone complains ; or when issuing invoices. we just won't invoice people with neg ratings, and they can sort it out."
a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 18:30 mircea_popescu: but logically, would you really want to rent your garage to anyone ANY of your friends think is no good ?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-19 01:36 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, it's not a firm "no trading with bozos" ; seems to me you appreciate the distinction between selling an item and selling hosting in other contexts. people that are willing to take your cash payment upfront for a piece of hard candy might nevertheless not agree to rent you their garage.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:03 trinque: I think "nobody does business with any L1-negrated party" is a bit strict. folks need to be able to beat someone over the head with disapproval without removing their ability to take part in society by having done so.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815981 << iirc it was never quite this strict hence http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-19#1802711 / http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-03#1808202 ☝︎☝︎☝︎
hanbot: http://thewhet.net/2018/04/panama-makes-me-ill/ << and then there's the sort of "bitcoin embassy" denizens i imagine abounding, whose ideas of security/tech whatever boil down to "we've got these here tshirts, herp"
scriba: Logged on 2016-10-24: [16:27:02] <mircea_popescu> these and other tips and tricks brought to you by red hat entreprise security department.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-24 19:19 hanbot: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20161024/#103 << i was actually gonna check out some "linux chix" meeting at the local red hat hole when i noticed 'pre-registration with documento' was required, you know, for 'security'.
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-19#1815751 << sure, in theory. in practice i imagine heaps of e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-24#1558640 and "we can't/won't communicate off our phnojesy app du jour", but it's not impossible some folks go hoping to be rescued eh. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: ~technically~ pizarro is blocked (rather, protected) from the need to act by, indeed as pointed out, i having rented it in my own name. "for him" or not, pizarro's not held to care. but this was a palliative in place specifically because i expected something in this vein, the fellow is very phenomena-driven, sorta like the brains of frogs only work when there's ligjht bombarding the retinas and thereby powering the rest of th ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:01 trinque: if you press me on terms I'll remove the -1, you risk creating a mommyprocess anyone with a negrate can appeal to.
mircea_popescu: while i can appreciate http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815977 ; it seems unavoidable that in fact peri-rating negotiations will be a fact of life ; only weren't historically because historically the importance of ratings was relatively small (even if ever growing). ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:01 mod6: mircea_popescu: how should Pizarro handle this, in your opinion, given the last conversation about this?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815978 << honestly i don't fucking know. it's all uncharted territory / shit we came up with. ☝︎
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/german-cartoonist-fired-by-paper-that-published-his-jew-cartoon/ << Qntra - German Cartoonist Fired By Paper That Published His Jew Cartoon
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 16:44 trinque: and yes, your approach is inadequate. gotta read all the logs since your last visit.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815950 << if he doesn't actually aim to lordship, i suppose he could get away with reading his highlighs and their context only. ☝︎