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mircea_popescu: yes the most important point if discussing geometry is how it's exaclty undifferentiable from algebra ; but nobody was helped by this observation in front of the 5th grade math class.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect that my grasp of the former, is deficient
a111: Logged on 2015-08-12 19:04 ascii_field: the gold standard for this kind of work is instrumented hardware
mircea_popescu: well... it doesn't have to be that way. you simply must collapse the trees on the basis of the constructed image of the kid's mental structure, not on the basis of the subjective perception of importance.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-22 23:52 mircea_popescu: t the polar opposite of dealing with kids, you are terrifyingly bad.
douchebag: ben_vulpes, esthlos, and danielpbarron - is there anything I can do to to repair my reputation? Let me know, and get back to me. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: these will have to be converted into a useful form, but fitting this up can be done during your scan, which will take weeks anyway.
mircea_popescu: and once that is done : connect to every machine on the internet, for ssh ~and https~, and extract all the keys they have, such as the item you listed above, yes, for ssh, and the pubkeys they keep in cert dirs for https.
mircea_popescu: those are more important, we're trying to work to limit the reputational damage you incur by being the word's most improbable mixture of youthful add and solipsistic otaku.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-22 22:14 mircea_popescu: douchebag, now go through your wot, ask the people with -s to please take them off, see what they want from you to do so.
mircea_popescu: there's a numbert of things here. one is, get a settlement with trinque. the second is, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1816875. ☝︎☟︎
douchebag: or that actually
douchebag: I would just be grabbing that and loading it into phuctor, correct?
douchebag: mircea_popescu: So for the ssh/ssl thing
douchebag: I only got the job I'm working at right now because I need to do something so that I can move
mircea_popescu: douchebag, it helps immensely to have a pile of money lying about. you never know what you have to pay for ; and you don't want to have to take a job.
douchebag: I'll do that right now
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 03:13 mircea_popescu: tell you what : do trinque's thing ; then do the ssh/ssl thing ; then we can talk about you running this thing exactly like pizarro is run, why the hell not.
mircea_popescu: which is roughly what informed http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1808692 ie the previous pass. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the correct approach is to a) build yourself a nest egg and b) start up.
douchebag: Hell, I would even be more willing to get paid less as long as I knew it wasn't going to be the same shit, everyday, with no signs of ever improving
douchebag: I don't work well with these type of people
douchebag: Everyone at this job just works there because they know that it will never require more out of them but to run an installer and configure this specific software for the customer.
douchebag: I'm at the point right now, where I feel like if someone offered me $700/week to do any InfoSec work that I'm qualified to do - I would quit this job and take it in two seconds flat.
mircea_popescu: hey, looky, i'm not saying you can't do better for yourself with a few simple tweaks, without requiring revolutionary, massive changes.
douchebag: It's really easy to think I need a job change, when I made more in 30 minutes of bug bounty hunting last week than I do in three weeks from my current job after tax
douchebag: Not to mention, I'm only making $35k/yr and I work 60 hours a week ☟︎
douchebag: Well, I've spoken to management about this and they basically told me that they aren't willing to do anything to actually help the customers and just want to sell our service
mircea_popescu: but i also do not see anything fundamentally wrong with you holding this view until changed a few hookers.
mircea_popescu: specifically that your expectation that the solution to the " it doesn't require any critical thinking, and in fact is discourages it" problem being "change the job" is about as naive as thinking the solution to "there's no deeper connection" is "change hooker".
douchebag: mircea_popescu: Just curious, what problems do you see in my train of thought in regards to an InfoSec career?
mircea_popescu: douchebag, this isn't in dispute, sure, why not.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-22 23:09 douchebag: I just want to have a job that I can enjoy doing. The reason I don't enjoy my current job is because it doesn't require any critical thinking, and in fact is discourages it. I would have a great time hacking companies and telling them how to fix their security.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1817061 << in fact, the problem with this discouragement isn't ~the job~, but the world in which the job exists. ☝︎
douchebag: For fucks sake, I know a 17 year old who has made $70k this year alone ☟︎
douchebag: I know loads of people in the InfoSec field, and for the most part they're all well off
mircea_popescu: ed to be angry." "What, he got over it ?" ( http://trilema.com/2016/hail-cesar/#selection-53.0-52.9 ), which "son" then has to come up with inane bullshit like "look at the birds and the bees -- they're not hunters, nor do their sow or reap, their existence is flatly meaningless, so could you live in the perfect womb of jonah's whale whose name is stupidity" or if you prefer the direct quote, "want to live darkly and richly i
mircea_popescu: and which also illuminates the indictment of xtianity as a fundamentally female worldview, and all the rest of http://trilema.com/2017/and-dont-go-around-upgrading-the-testaments-either/ : by the time they invent a "son" of god so that "You don't follow for a very simple reason : these men are screwballs. God has children ? What, and a dog ? A collie, maybe ? God doesn't have children. He's a bachelor. And very angry!" "He us
mircea_popescu: there being a difference between the hunter that catches some quarry and the bear that catches the same exact quarry : the bear -- is not a hunter. which goes right into the lengthy strand of http://trilema.com/2015/peripateticists-kinda-except-girls-not-boys-bare-cunt-instead-of-toga-and-walking-around-the-house-not-the-garden-but-otherwise-exactly-the-same/#selection-571.0-570.1 spittoon.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-22 22:41 diana_coman: douchebag, from here it really looks like your end goal is really "that the world finally finds my hobby extremely useful and terribly important to the point that it ALSO becomes very meaningful"
a111: Logged on 2018-05-22 23:16 douchebag: Doesn't everyone want to do that?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1817082 >> no, actually. most women want to http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/#selection-133.57-133.334 ; which is the point of diana_coman 's http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1816974 comment (not that she's a woman ; but it's not clear to her whether your worldview is womanly in this sense). note importantly that the objection is ~re the source of meaning~, which is a cult ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: t the polar opposite of dealing with kids, you are terrifyingly bad. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, the problem with you isdn't that you lack useful experience, but that you lack any apparent clue in how to communicate it effectually. when dealing with people who are both a) unsurprised and b) well structured, they can sometimes, if within the effort cap they're willing to expend, break up the content out of its very unfortunate prison of form. but otherwise, the communication fails to occur, and especially a
asciilifeform: but i suppose it ain't worth it, they gotta step in the bear trap.
asciilifeform: and asciilifeform suffers from the typical delusion of old people , specifically that it is somehow worthwhile to warn young folx away from obvious chumpatron bear trap.
asciilifeform: momentarily revisiting douchebag : 5yrs ago asciilifeform suffered from same fog, thought there was ( or at least could be ) such a thing as 'security company' , or 'make a living finding bugs', etc., even went and opened up a thing, with coupla other d00dz, and we had an actual working piece of tech, BUT no friends in nomenklatura, and -- quite predictably -- it ended with nothing to show but empty pockets and old faded stationary.
phf: man spent his old age lending his presence to all kinds of experimental projects, all of which a remembered only through "burroughs once stopped by our studio"
phf: for the logs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZszbqdOq7g
mircea_popescu: phf, ~nothing else there.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-22 20:52 mircea_popescu recently re-watched http://trilema.com/2011/drugstore-cowboy/ ; it is notable because pretty much the last extant footage of w s burroughs.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1816718 << hah, i originally watched it for the same reason, and the only thing i even remember is burroughs sitting in the chair, and spitting the "narcotics" prediction in his famous squeaky voice ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, fwiw, the guy did criminal life correctly. extensive research, and follow-up calls, to selecte & educate the victims of previous rape, strict avoidance of the low-ante trap, there's entirely no flaw in there.
mircea_popescu: there's a school in the modern phrenology that calls itself "physchology" relating high testosterone with aggressive behaviour and larger penii.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't clear that gigantic cocks make the work of serial raping, any easier ( if anyffing -- harder ? )
mircea_popescu: not you dood. this "golden state killer" with the dna evidence.
douchebag: 50+ though, what's the average?
mircea_popescu: funny thing, this dude, who had more sex than ~anyone in california (50+ rapes, srsly ? 1 in 1000 males or less do 50 different girls over their lifetime) nevertheless had a small penis.
mircea_popescu: im not sure that's the driver, but anyway.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is one possible way to fill empty souls; and it beats , in re habitability of locale, the other stable state.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at this point it is safe to suppose that usg has biophuctor coverage of erryone in nato reich, and a good % -- outside.
mircea_popescu: horribly mismanaged, but work, they love.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i see that even here. these people LOVE to work.\
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they've thrown money at the 'we still have holdout from whom we don't have samples, how to use cousins' problem.
douchebag: Doesn't everyone want to do that? ☟︎
douchebag: Well, I just don't see why it's a bad thing to want to do something I enjoy and be good at it.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform not so long ago read a treatise on psychology of india, by a 1880s british preacher. was interesting document, but in particular author is astonished re the dedication to work, and to the utterly meaningless drudgery, of the lowest castes. probably phf saw this even in modern india, when he went. and asciilifeform to some degree saw among some emigres in usa. douchebag you ain't from india, perchance ?
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/6zrLD#selection-1593.15-1605.1 << anyway, pretty great biophuctor item, this.
mircea_popescu: but that also changes nothing.
mircea_popescu: i'm not aspiring to anything.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yer not aspiring to be a saddles-and-bridles makin' craftsman, tho
douchebag: and do that until I can retire
mircea_popescu: "What would i do then ?!" fuck me, i dunno, break down and cry, really ?!
douchebag: Fix the next companies security, there will always be someone that secures their shit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you picture, for the sake of argument, that anyone already knew, so was no further need of writing trilema.
asciilifeform: or , lemme guess, you do not actually want to see it ~fixed~.
asciilifeform: douchebag: picture, for the sake of argument, that they ~actually fixed~. what'll you do then ?
douchebag: I'd also like to publish writeups about my research and be recognized as someone who actually knows what the hell they're doing.
asciilifeform: populated, as mircea_popescu helpfully reminds readers, with 'wives who talk back'
douchebag: I just want to have a job that I can enjoy doing. The reason I don't enjoy my current job is because it doesn't require any critical thinking, and in fact is discourages it. I would have a great time hacking companies and telling them how to fix their security. ☟︎
asciilifeform: point being, the fact that d00d thinks that they can be meaningfully fulfilled , as a palpable, achievable thing, ~as usg jobsworth~, is astonishing, to me.
asciilifeform: no i know what the physiological urges are.
mircea_popescu: this is the basis of the unexamined life neh.
mircea_popescu: he means a job that 1. provides him with the physical necessities (physical dominance) and 2. with time-security (ie, not that he's fed now but that he can feed himself, permanently) and 3. with recognition (ie, that nubile women notice he got 1 and 2 and flock to him).
asciilifeform: fulfillment is what happens in costa rica, surrounded by slavegurlz and rocket battery, in throne.
asciilifeform: ain't nobody about to pay a whore to self-fulfill, other than by happenstance.
mircea_popescu: what they call "fulfilling job" is "item satisfying layers 1-3 on mp's restatement of maslow pyramid"
asciilifeform: i dun think i've ever seen it emitted by a d00d in earnest, vs on stage
a111: Logged on 2018-05-22 22:32 douchebag: I want to work a fulfilling job where I know that I am actually providing a good service and giving customers a high quality security audit as well as high quality security products
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1816938 << wait until he discovers that the customers dun want quality, and other problems with the democratic world. ☝︎
asciilifeform: in practice there is such a thing as 'enuff coin to never work for a living again', and granted it comes with caveats , like for instance not being part of the snail of the bellcurve . but nevertheless it exists.
mircea_popescu: but in point of fact the sort of freedom you buy is sold to you by clinton.
mircea_popescu: there's all sorts of pulp/sf in this vein, "buying memories", whatever.
mircea_popescu: the "buy freedom" thing is an unrelated consideration. no one has to my knowledge yet manage to bottle freedom ; so necessarily those pursuing it in the walmart shelvery are deluding themselves.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, this applies to a few thousands ; 250k takes you into top bracket anyway.
asciilifeform: or even upgrade him to 'inner party shop'
mircea_popescu: due to how the imperial tax regime works, a gift of a few %s of your current income may end up a net negative if it bumps your bracket, so you have the choice of either paying 15% of 100% or else 22% of 106%, the latter is worse even if 106% is more.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: point being that it ain't serious money, it will not buy a man freedom
asciilifeform: ( because that's what it is , to willingly keep a secret for microshit. leprous cock. )
asciilifeform: would you take leprous cock in every hole, douchebag , for box of chocolate ??