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phf: asciilifeform: hey, have you had further progress with
the chromebook? i'm
thinking of replacing my x60 with it, or rather i want
to
try a portable cuntoo install, without nuking existing setup
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 13:43 ave1: BTW
the aarch64 will build static but not by default, so
that part I will check.
phf: yeah, privmsgs are silent, so you're always making assumptions about your name. i
think i have
to handle NICK messages from server
to know when
the bot is force renamed..
phf: back in
the canonical log days, i'd patch
the name in
the logs, but since we're past
that i
think it can be left as is, unless
there are objections as far as log authenticity.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-05-24 19:34
trinque: ahaha
spyked: Mocky: methinks users should be able
to
talk
to
the bot via PM, e.g.
to subscribe
to feeds.
the bot will permit "private" subscriptions
too, iirc mircea_popescu uses
this.
spyked: the rationale is
that
there are a few O(n) operations involved (e.g. walking
through
the list of rss feeds) and I don't want every rando landing on Freenode
to be able
to abuse
this (in particular for advertising sent via pm). let 'em get
their own rss bot if
they wanna.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 08:59 spyked: re b. I have a rfc in
the works, should be ready for publishing at
the beginning of next week.
this is also why I haven't disclosed
the bot's name and
the channel where it operates at
the moment, I want
to limit access
to relevant bot commands
to L1 and L2 only.
spyked: and decide based on
that.
spyked: as far as I can see,
this first writing pass exposes incorrect assumptions about e.g. data structures and how
they're used. if
this keeps happening,
then it might be
that
the problem is larger
than
the mind can chew on in one
take.
☟︎ ave1: BTW how would you do
this "I want
to limit access
to relevant bot commands
to L1 and L2 only" ? Check if
the nick has voice or download
the WOT or can deedbot be queried?
ave1: Not
that
the cycle is not useful and
the result at each round better
ave1: Also, yes, once you write it you may see how it should have been written. But I wonder if
this is
the first step in an infinite cycle.
ave1: I sometimes have it all
tought out and
then it completely fails on writing
the first couple of lines.
ave1: "in
the head" and implemtation
ave1: It fascinating
this space between
spyked: but I knew how
the rss bot design should look (I wrote up a draft before starting
the implementation),
the problem was rather fitting it up with all
the "imported" elements.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-12-30 22:12 asciilifeform:
to round off
thread -- asciilifeform very much enjoying rewriting ( and it is , yes , a
total rewrite ) ffa
ave1: Or just live with it until
the stress becomes big enough
that you'll have
to do something.
☟︎ ave1: spyked, I've seen
this happening many
times (the code is done, but ugly, so I cannot publish yet). I geuss
there is a general process behind
this. At
time (a) you need some code, at
time (b) you have it but
the code is "ugly". At
time (c)
the code still works and you have little incentive
to clean it up. I know only
two ways
to get less "ugly" code, in
the
time between (a) and (b) write non "ugly" code. Or at
time (c) publish
the code and get shamed into s
spyked: now,
the reason why
this has been
taking me so long is
that I hoped I would publish
the pieces as I went along. but
this is harder
than it looked, had
to write what is now unreadable (other
than by myself) prototype,
then (point c. on my list) I'll have
to rewrite/refactor and
then publish. all
this despite
the fact
that
this is "known item", not FFA.
spyked: re b. I have a rfc in
the works, should be ready for publishing at
the beginning of next week.
this is also why I haven't disclosed
the bot's name and
the channel where it operates at
the moment, I want
to limit access
to relevant bot commands
to L1 and L2 only.
☟︎ spyked: re a. it's occured
to me a few days ago
that
the bot must maintain +v/-v state so
that it doesn't needlessly attempt
to
talk in-chan before self-voicing. I intend
this part
to be separate from
the rss bot itself and reusable.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-24 15:38
trinque: I'd be happy
to add it, but spyked, how's your rss bot coming along?
spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1818005 <-- it's a few (2-3?) weeks away from deployability. full report: basic functionality is pretty stable now (cl-feed-parser library was
throwing random errors and wasn't fittable-in-head; so I had
to replace and rewrite a significant portion of
the rss and atom parsing bits). I still need
to implement a. self-voicing and b. an access control mechanism.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 14:47 mircea_popescu: once you can make 'em it's darn obvious, and before it's impossibru and "vague" and
throws fit
a111: Logged on 2018-05-24 14:07 mircea_popescu:
http://ave1.org/planding.html <<
this is altogether not
terrible. if it's not much of a landing page, at least it's clean and legible.
mircea_popescu: "Gotta eat, gotta live, gotta build
the
time machine." damn,
this is fucking poetic.
trinque will wash gehry and shi out with latrine pig,
then
to bed
trinque: the butt-huffing even leaks into
the filename
there
trinque: went
to a state school instead,
then left
to beach-bum on
their stipend money
trinque: literally
the stupid buildings.
trinque: saw
those housing buildings by whatever postmodern idiot
trinque got invited up
to mit one summer after decent ACT scores
Mocky: 90's not at college park,
this was
the cut-rate SUNY Oswego
Mocky: my lisp/ai
teacher's first and last names were anagrams, and i *never* believed
that was his real name. super weird, long white hair. craig graci
trinque: I couldn't
tell you 5% of my
teacher's names
Mocky: can't
think of name, but i can picture him, scruffy luddite
mircea_popescu: Mocky, you know, i remember my college by
teacher. how else ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform,
to ask you what you asked me, "It is not clear why it needs cement poured. What, will escape ?" and
to answer me what i answered you,
Mocky: when i
took data structure class, mind was blown. "you can do all
this stuff with a comp and you've been
teaching me for loops?"
mircea_popescu: especially as it's been
the case for > 10 years by now
mircea_popescu: trinque,
there's something exquisitely wrong with "we all agree what we did was stupid". well... why'd you do it
then ?!!?!?!?!?!?
mircea_popescu: what's
the problem, you folk don't have
the information superhighway where you live, can't communicate with each other,
the
trucks of internets don't make it, what is it.
trinque: I'd have loved
to have gone
to an actual university.
mircea_popescu: oyu know, i've yet
to meet
the zek who has somewthing ~other~
to say about his secondary education
time
than "i was an idiot"
Mocky: i was an idiot, got endebted elsewhere,
took all
the cs classes, and
then quit
to get a job programming
mircea_popescu: so i jsut re-read
the set ; indeed it is grand. i love reading myself.
Mocky: maybe would have got better grades if not found lesiure suit larry and
tetris
Mocky: well, got in on 3 scholarships, and lost one couldn't make
tuition
Mocky: not vet,
total semester count ... 1, more like reject
Mocky: brings back
terrrible memories of university of maryland
Mocky: oh man,
this one has a pick of leisure suit larry, lmao
Mocky: human latrine pig...
that's definitely going
to leave a mark
trinque: Mocky: ^ read
these;
they're awesome, and very much "the problem"
trinque: nah,
the google heaven where everyone's in goo cylinders redditing, semiverbal dudes wandering and raping
trinque: I find myself daydreaming
that mircea_popescu world quite often
Mocky: trinque, i don't
think so
mircea_popescu: narcissist fantasy, "What if
the whole world was powerless observers". brasil ftw.
trinque: Mocky: did you read
the goo
tube piece?
trinque: I guess
their fetish is more or less jars of eyes.
Mocky: right so what's
the problem
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 03:58 mircea_popescu: Mocky, you realise, everyone's model revolves around wrapping zeks. it's just
that
the democrats are (mostly, unexamiedly) partialists while we're absolutists.
trinque: seems like whatever "ruling class"
the empire has missed a developmental step
too
lobbes: let fantasy
tulpas flourish, fighting imaginary battles for 'purposes'
a111: Logged on 2018-05-24 19:50 mircea_popescu: much like byzantines imagined mongols come over
to steal
the "true cross" because it's so fucking valuable in
their eyes. because how couldn't it be. and so on.
mircea_popescu: 1000 dollars
today, ie one 1985 dollar ; and 1:1mn leverage
today, meaning you can do
the work of 1k 1985 people.
mircea_popescu: previous discussion re leverage with alf aside ; it's a wonder if
they can make one man out of 1k of
the neets
tied
together. i have my doubts. so it's not just "need leverage" on
this side --
the empire graciously provides anti-leverage out of its own meat.
Mocky: this next generation is going
to be epic, with
the way schools are now, and raised by ipads and netflix
mircea_popescu: (this is
the mechanism
that resolves infantile cowardice, ftr : sooner or later
the kid goes, "fuck it, none shall pass".)
trinque: hmmm, I can see it. in
the personal anecdote, I wasn't overflowing with loyalty for anyone either.
mircea_popescu: (and no, i don't mean "talk
to kids ~anbout bedwetting~, what a stupid fucking subject. i mean
take
them out for a sundae and do something interesting or other, whatever
the spur of
the moment provides.)
mircea_popescu: though from experience,
talking
to
the kid works actually a whole of a lot better. just, you need
to be capable of actual
talk. so hanging ~the parents~ may also be effectual.
mircea_popescu: bedwetting, perhaps
the most eminent example
towards your line, also doesn't work.
though conceivably hanging bedwetters would work, but in
the social sense -- be rid of
them.
mircea_popescu: violence is extremely effectual at curing high level delusions -- every "princess" reverts
to sanity after a stint in
the dungeon. it's not particularly effectual at curing lower level issues, beating kids for suttering doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: trinque, it's my read also. retarded, in
the proper sense, like 9yo
that can't
tie own shoes.
mircea_popescu: once caught, it came out
that he was gouging
the eyes out ~because "he had heard
that
the image of killer remains on body's retina"~ ; he stopped, becauise he figured out it's an old wives'
tale
trinque: the one where
they get
their ass whipped by an adult male for lying