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mircea_popescu: turns out there's no actual reads worth the mention online.
asciilifeform: ( at least lacks the melodramatic 'warcraft II' bg of the prev item )
asciilifeform: https://youtu.be/lXif1YplU7c << slightly better track, imho.
esthlos: I should mention that I had some trouble pressing it using mod6's v. After the press, the thing complained that the hashes don't match. But if you check it manually, it works out
asciilifeform: i went to look for voice, this was the only one that didn't, apparently , do it with mouth full...
douchebag: At the hotel I'm at right now, I have a perfect view of Trump tower
deedbot: http://blog.esthlos.com/esthlos-v-genesis-or-who-presses-the-pressor/ << esthlos - esthlos-V Genesis, Or: Who Presses the Pressor?
mod6: yeah, not much has changed in the editor-game as far as I know. but i'm kinda old school like that.
Mocky: mod6, I don't mind the learning curve. Back in the day I used emacs in viper mode on a slackware disto built from a two foot stack of 3.5in floppies and thought I was the shit. but a couple decades outta that game, just wondering if there's anything new. The full extent of what I know exists: emacs, vi(m), nano, ed, ex, gedit.
mod6: <+Mocky> vim, I could never get used to having modes. didn't feel right. but I know a lot of people like it << Vi/M can have a steep learning curve, but once you're good at it, it can ramp up your efficiency quite a bit imho. however, if you need something simple, there's always 'nano' or whatever.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> possibly feels like this because, i suppose, different epoch. << true enough, Sir.
esthlos: lobbes: yeah, not arm. based on https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/dev-lang/php the arm64 coverage looks bad
esthlos: oh and no, haven't looked at BingoBoingo 's thingy. I'll check it out
esthlos: I also killed the part of wordpress which adds line breaks to raw html code, which I will make a vpatch for at some point
esthlos: ben_vulpes: I took the default theme (Kubrick), ripped out most of the php, and tweaked the css. at some point I plan to go through https://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Development and develop a proper theme, but I've placed it as low priority
lobbes: esthlos: ty. Also, I'm assuming this was on an amd64 and not an arm64 box?
ben_vulpes: esthlos: what'd you do for theming? i just took a look at "toolbox" at BingoBoingo's request, have you ever touched that?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-29 05:56 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-15#1799701 << esthlos, how'd you resolve this? I'm having the same issue with mp-wp saying php is missing the mysql extension, despite having the mysql USE flag set when I emerged php5.6. Full details of my issue here: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/zNr0A/?raw=true
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819254 << well, if you can find problems with my v implementation, i'd be grateful. any testing is appreciated, really ☝︎
mircea_popescu: how did that go, "to obtain random strings on linux, give a windows person vim and ask them to exit"
Mocky: vim, I could never get used to having modes. didn't feel right. but I know a lot of people like it
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/muma-lui-stefan-cel-mare/ << Trilema - Muma lui Stefan cel Mare
asciilifeform didnt drive there either, lol
mircea_popescu: outside of driving range tho
asciilifeform: objectively odd, ye olde bbet was not only still in the saddle but riding at its peak...
asciilifeform remembers finding it odd that kako did not appear at c3
asciilifeform: ( c2 feels, to asciilifeform , even 'longer ago', epochally -- even such a basic thing as trb, say, did not yet exist )
asciilifeform: possibly feels like this because, i suppose, different epoch.
mod6: Ok, wow. Seems like a long time.
mod6: Was it really in 2015? Seems like it was longer ago than that.
mod6: I just ran across the c3 photos. But the date has me shook.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm almost surprised you dun write it with http://www.loper-os.org/pub/podvig_radista.jpg terminal. ☟︎
asciilifeform: emacs is a massively tall rock of local maximum surrounded by ocean of boiling liquishit.
mircea_popescu: i write most of my code in the terminal.
asciilifeform hasn't met many emacsists who say anything other than 'i use grudgingly'
trinque: eh begrudgingly, as the most tunable pile of insane bullshit I can tolerate.
Mocky: what do you use trinque? (imma guess emacs)
Mocky would love to hear about them
asciilifeform: Mocky: there's quite a few folx here who use non-emacs editors
Mocky: what's the story on source code editors on linux? "emacs or gtfo" ?
mircea_popescu: jurov, pretty cool, let me know when you want it tested
asciilifeform: of the thing that you read.
asciilifeform: jurov: plz consider posting a signed (with disclaimers, if you like) tarball ?
asciilifeform: ok, ty.
asciilifeform: are you or are you not using a binturd to generate shitcoin transactions.
asciilifeform: i mean the item you mentioned above. that generates tx.
jurov: you mean the server? yes, some time ago
asciilifeform: so jurov you actually got electrum to build ?
jurov: i have read the code
asciilifeform: jurov: and how do you know what the transaction the closedblob output, is ? i.e. that it goes to the addr you gave (i.e. the gox's) rather than some other ?
jurov: I feed it inputs and keys manually via the console, then paste resulting shitcoin transaction somewhere. That's why I said it's somewhat slow.
asciilifeform: jurov: what means 'only the code' ?
jurov: asciilifeform: i understand you like to blow your fuses over electrum, but I do *not* use electrum online, only the code.
jurov: mircea_popescu: yes I can do the exchange.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/kika/ << Trilema - Kika
asciilifeform: ( cursory look at heathendom sources suggests that thiel's thing is finally, as of mar. 2018, properly dead and buried )
asciilifeform: thiel, apparently, built ( threatened to build? i dun follow the subj... ) a tanker, anchor somewhere, and play similar game to orig 'sealand' . what he lacks, however is the business model ( apparently sealand had a business model, and raked in some dough , briefly -- britain had no commercial radio, at one time, and sealand 'pirate' station accepted ads from brits , paid through proxies )
asciilifeform: also revealed ( not in confidence, this was party with buncha folx ) that thiel ( apparently, friend of his ) is still pushing it, and is frustrated re 'lack of young people with any sense' , 0 takers to crew the lulztanker.
mircea_popescu: hey. nice to know.
asciilifeform: then he conceded, more or less, that the whole 'micro-nations' crackpottery, was lame, for more or less the reasons described by mircea_popescu .
asciilifeform: d00d in his, iirc, 90s. so i ask him about ye olde 'sealand isp'. he waves hand, 'eh, was lame, they could do nothing serious because upstream net access was easily cut'
asciilifeform: 'quit , didn't want to be yet another grunt on yet another particle collider', went into ordinary engineering.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in recent lulz : asciilifeform ran into the d00d in http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-start-your-own-country-adnotated/ , in meatspace
asciilifeform: upstack : congrats to BingoBoingo , subscriber of the last ( in pilot plant ) rockchip !!
asciilifeform: trinque: dun forget to install the usg root certs!111111
trinque: or the OS build process that says "first you go see usg.google.gentoo"
mircea_popescu: "the world", don't you know. which world ? "oh, you know, the imaginary item we produced". what we ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 17:15 zx2c4: mircea_popescu: oh. so. "the world doesnt care about the cool hackers on the internet, but only the assholes with prestigious positions." this has been a widely known complaint for a long time
mircea_popescu: more in the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809349 vein of nonsense ☝︎
asciilifeform: ahaha yes the 'science' where 'can haz rawdata.txt ?' 'fuckoff terrorist'
mircea_popescu: and yet the pretense is ~every fucking time~ that "science" and bla bla.
mircea_popescu: there's meaning derived from meaning and then there's meaning derived from authority, and the shitgnomes trying to pretend equality only confuses matters.
mircea_popescu: the concept of "political dependency" is actually a rather important one. it most valuably organizes the world.
asciilifeform: full src is in all of the rk boxen.
asciilifeform: the only variant src item is the kernel ( it has rockchip-specific modules )
asciilifeform: there's nothing specifically arm-istic about it, either, same tarballs as used on x86 boxen
asciilifeform: ^ yes, there is a asciilifeform-signed curated gentoo set !
asciilifeform: ^ signed, observe, as 'found turd'
trinque: what moved is the constellations of musl and non-musl versions of ebuilds; gotta align the stars again, then take a picture
asciilifeform: anyone who doesn't have it -- can extract it trivially from http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295 ball
trinque: I already have this minimal set, but thanks
asciilifeform: ( keeping in mind that it includes no musltronicity patches )
asciilifeform: trinque: imho the rockchip set is your best bet then. it is as minimal as i knew how to make.
trinque: and it'll still be a trb-sized genesis of a "found item"
trinque: there'll be a whole archeological process of making vpatches for useful ebuilds, but the initial item needs to be small as possible
asciilifeform: and also incidentally, every rockchip box contains a complete /usr/portage/distfiles reflecting every single item present on that box ( as i emerged world prior to making master image )
trinque: so I wont be making a release until I again have a whole-item which builds, and then there'll be a genesis vpatch for the portage tree, and goodbye emerge --sync, and layman, and every other external political dependency
asciilifeform: trinque: would there be value in offering my /usr/portage/distfiles as a mirror ?
trinque: not only, they delete ebuilds
asciilifeform: aaaaaaa tarballs
trinque: asciilifeform: yes, shitgnomes in both the gentoo and musl-overlay portage trees continued their brownian motion and diana_coman for example couldn't build, one day
trinque has for example been chewing through everything that moved out from under his last cuntoo build script.
mircea_popescu: nobody's saying we don't have the parts or that they can't be made or anything.
asciilifeform: incidentally i have ave1's latest tarball queued up for testing at nightfall.
asciilifeform: right; however i do not currently grasp where it fits in ( i delivered and gentooized a large amd64 box for s.mg; thought it was to be eulora server )
mircea_popescu: you were there for the threads, neh, diana_coman working with ave1 to get it going ?
asciilifeform: ( or was mircea_popescu trying to put it on arm box , and waiting for arm gnat ? )
asciilifeform: hm i thought the eulora server was up and going ??
mircea_popescu: there's a progression to things.
mircea_popescu: so far we're having some trouble getting the whole shebang to do eulora server, and so on.