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mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i actually publish pingbacks, i dun think they make it over for some reason.
Framedragger: might as well, will see if i can / he responds :)
a111: Logged on 2016-06-19 14:22 mircea_popescu: http://idlewords.com/talks/website_obesity.htm << incidentally, i REALLY like this website. guy starts copacetic enough but actually takes things far enough. yes, ban any third party service, ads or anything else. website may not load any foreign elements, at all, just like it can't xss.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-19#1485154 << the author runs and lives off of his small no-bullshit bookmarking and archiving (bookmark/tag sites/PDFs, be able to full-text search later etc) business pinboard.in which has this exotic (to SV crowd anyway) business model called "users pay for the service and the service delivers". i like the guy ☝︎
pete_dushenski: this was when i was dipping my toes in 'tmsr pr' idea. basically just wanted to see if fiverr paid views worked, and if so, where they were coming from. turns out that the answers were "yes", "from russia", and "but only temporarily"
pete_dushenski: i paid fiverr guy to 'view' a yt clip 5k times. results were delivered. several months later, yt removed those paid for 'views'. like ethereum 'rollback' i guess.
pete_dushenski: ask yt i guess.
pete_dushenski: though i found out that the 5k of ruskie 'views' i sent to that video for shits and giggles... unhappened. they lasted for at least 3-4 months though.
pete_dushenski: i'd like to think so.
pete_dushenski: i was trying to figure out how to shut off the ios update notifications and stumbled onto 'osxdaily' and couldn't fucking believe my eyes. cook from central casting has absolutely spent every last penny of steve's good will
phf: i mean i'm pretty sure the ad bid system generated at least a handful of public talks at conferences, etc, which i'm sure painted the ad company in most positive of lights.
phf: so when ad people talk about "smart" ads and shit like that i'm usually trying to imagine what their actual stream of income is.
phf: i briefly worked for an ad company, was hired to do realtime ad bidding. google and few other companies send you a request. "such and such ad space available, starting bid is this many cents, you have 500ms to formulate a response, how much you want to pay and ad url, we let you know if won." request comes with a tracking id, so by sitting on the pipe long enough and placing losing bids you were supposedly able to both build up user profiles and g
mircea_popescu: http://idlewords.com/talks/website_obesity.htm << incidentally, i REALLY like this website. guy starts copacetic enough but actually takes things far enough. yes, ban any third party service, ads or anything else. website may not load any foreign elements, at all, just like it can't xss. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i guess it's fortunate i'm not a client.
mircea_popescu: "I bet if you went to a client and presented a 200 kilobyte site template, you’d be fired. Even if it looked great and somehow included all the tracking and ads and social media crap they insisted on putting in. It’s just so far out of the realm of the imaginable at this point. " <<->> curl 'http://trilema.com' --silent --write-out 'size_download=%{size_download}\n' --output /dev/null
mircea_popescu: people on the outskirts naively care, i guess is the explanation.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-19#1485143 <<< wow, suddenly i'm converted to BingoBoingo 's views, bernie ftw! ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Great Inca in the wild https://i.imgur.com/GexcTlG.gif
asciilifeform: what other burbulations quietly fester in orcish heads, i wonder.
asciilifeform: soldier punched hole in a bucket, with nail, and said to sergeant: 'look, my brilliant invention: the burbulator. see, i pour in water, it burbles.'
asciilifeform: i for some reason inevitably recall the infamous ru army joke re the бурбулятор
asciilifeform: i recall the burbuja distinctly.
asciilifeform: (i.e. jacquerie)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i perhaps confusingly, meant their own subjective thing, did not mean the bulk of it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think the english had at any point decentralized charity.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the one point easily missed is that ~the one in need~ is no arbiter of the type, degree and kind of his need! the one GIVING is the sole fucking arbiter as to what the needy needs, when and how much of it.
asciilifeform: interestingly the only wholly alternate ~stable~ solution to same puzzle i know of is... the castes of india
mircea_popescu: sometimes they shamble on, like teh chinese for instance. i suspect the us is headed that way also.
asciilifeform: i for one would like to know the curvature of the space.
asciilifeform: i suppose this is sorta like BingoBoingo's 'morbid obesity' - 49+% still 'obeast' but has not tipped the scale, no
asciilifeform: nor have i been lately a-piratin', yarrr
asciilifeform: i deliberately picked easy case.
mircea_popescu: i for instance count philosophy as such "differentiates" us. you apparently only count a narrow definition of math-engineering ?
mircea_popescu: "why won't you be reasonable, mr X!" "because i'd like to do something!"
mircea_popescu: fwiw, i wasn't BORN a bitcoin-whatever.
mircea_popescu: shit, i could DEFINITELY burn down the ~10mn strong buenos aires with a thousand people, that were actual people ie, the sort one'd run into back in the yugoslav war days.
mircea_popescu: lemme see if i can find it.
mircea_popescu: more like variation i think. rabbits, pigs, all have this boom feeding thing.
asciilifeform: looking at the religions of the past (the selfsame inca empire, my recent kick) i've come to suspect that the overall 'belief load' typical human can carry is roughly constant
mircea_popescu: i don't think it's a matter of scarcity necessarily. that the sea flows through fjords does not mean the sea is finite.
asciilifeform: for instance, i recently went, in usa no less, to an airport, and was shown into an actual airplane which actually burned some actual petro and actually flew. whereas if pretendjuice were not a finite resource, i would probably have been sat down in a cardboard box and 'zoom, zoom'
asciilifeform: i predicted, for instance, that there would be a usgtronic alt backed by actual fiatola. which hasn't happened yet.
asciilifeform: i'm still not convinced that there's been any net leakage of 'turkey dollar.'
phf: whenever i hear of mainstream consensus... i unlock my browning
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought they weren't active no moar ?
mircea_popescu: personally i'm much more invested in beheading the schmuck over the "web 2.0" bullshit than whatever foss drama.
asciilifeform: or - what i'm reading now, under a shade tree in middle of town - fusor schematics.
asciilifeform: i'd rather read us state dept memis from 1940s.
asciilifeform: nfi, i never did...
asciilifeform: i always thought that oreilley - the dead tree thing - were purely opportunistic
a111: Logged on 2015-01-11 03:50 mircea_popescu: i don't propose that rms "shouldn't have" or that fsf shouldn't have been or anything of the sort. but really, the pretense that at some point the situation seriously was, red pill vs blue pill and o'reilly of all people tricked everyone into getting the wrong pill...
mircea_popescu: there was a pretty decent monograph on how the early days of "open source" vs "free software" played out, with the wanna-be derp front and center, i think linked in the logs.
asciilifeform: it is of course possible that he works, but i can't picture this.
mircea_popescu: does it take some sort of skill and expertise to be loudly wrong about everything you say and collect a whole trophycase of "that one time i was so ridiculous people laughed at me for a week" ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i always thought the reference there must be "idiot's village".
shinohai: I'll wind most anything up once to see if it wobbles.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-18 20:33 shinohai: I used it one time a long time ago, it has to go through the WHOLE chain first
shinohai: I'll start poking it with stick.
mod6: but like i said, something to be learned from this maybe
mod6: yeah, looks like it. thought maybe i'd learn a thing or two by reading this code.
shinohai: I used it one time a long time ago, it has to go through the WHOLE chain first ☟︎
Framedragger: shinohai: runaway side effect of turing complete contracts. some a.i. leakage unavoidable.
Framedragger: i just find it amusing in general, yeah pointing out not as a contra, but, just, for the lulz
asciilifeform: i guess everybody else went 'not worth a bullet'
asciilifeform: i confess to never having given enough of a fuck re the eth circus to keep track in real time. but fortunately ~somebody~ did...
mircea_popescu: oh i mean, rightdao
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many internet urchins are being "the attacker" rightnao
Bugpowder: ok… uhhh… I’ll ask more questions once i got gpg running and I get stuk. tx
asciilifeform: perhaps in peacetime - i will write.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'd read your first work of anthropology, re mains.
mircea_popescu: and when i finally croak ima go to saint peter an' say loudly an' clearly "what are you droning on about, old man, i didn't do nuttin'. ASK ANYONE!" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: pretty lulzy though. i certainly had a nice saturday morning
asciilifeform: the parallels are astonishingly close and i've thought about writing whole monograph about it
daoattacker: asciilifeform, because i'm not the attacker, LOL. yet people ate it up.
daoattacker: but I wrote the pastebin, the signature is fake ;)
mircea_popescu gloats over how his lines read better retrospectively than prospectively. THIS is true literature, and i doubt very much one in a hundred "genius writers" and other revered authors of yore qualify.
mod6: heheh, someday when i buy the hog and cattle farms
mod6: i'll think on this a bit while scraping biological gunk out of metal things.
mod6: this is almost worth me like creating a development environment where I can take a copy of chain and just do some playing around on there. even with a broken chain.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-18 16:15 mod6: i may try to find some time yet this weekend to take a look at this blkcut thing -- this may be away to roll life saving numbers on your block chain after a power outage in the future.
mod6: i'll be back around later. best of luck thestringpuller
mod6: sorry i've been afk much of the week. have been pulling super long days shit-shoveling.
thestringpuller: damn. i should have tried that
shinohai: I can usually sync from backup, chop last blkxxx.dat and catch right back up pretty quick
mod6: i may try to find some time yet this weekend to take a look at this blkcut thing -- this may be away to roll life saving numbers on your block chain after a power outage in the future. ☟︎
mod6: i think others have had problems with the same exact thing. power goes out -> bad things may happen.
thestringpuller: i don't think anything was wrong with that build just power outage corruption.
thestringpuller: so i'll jus tstart synching from ascii's node then i'll swap out for SSD once it picks up
thestringpuller: mod6: np. i just nuked and paved
mod6: thestringpuller: anyway, i get that you're "pissed" as you said the other day. if this is production server, you need to have some sort of backups indeed imo. if this is development, well, it's all part of the fun.
mod6: asciilifeform: hey (i think I've asked this before) but; the blkcut utility doesn't allow a guy to exacto-knife one block out of a blkindex file does it?
thestringpuller: i know right!
shinohai: I'm using my unused pogo as datastore for it xD
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-18#1484469 << i have this but it is not cheap (raid5, card with own battery, daily verifications, giant ups, etc) ☝︎
asciilifeform: btw footnote 1 of http://trilema.com/2013/ripple-the-definitive-discussion seems to be the tidbit i was looking for in the last thread re jed mccaleb
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: yea next time it syncs i'll back it up for sure to multiple drives.
thestringpuller: ^^^- that is I don't think it will send or ask for new blocks...it's "stuck" permanently.
thestringpuller: so i don't think it will sync to current. this was due to power outage. (i've done kill -9, so i'd assume same effect?)
Framedragger: https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/743883153094283266 << heheh. i really like this dude