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shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485707 <<< i think there are stricter rules for deedbot no? ☝︎

mats: yes Bugpowder i think so

mats: oh, right, i'm not a person anymoar ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 14:06 asciilifeform: though when i exclude files, i simply move'em

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485638 << btcbase is deployed using v (not quite fully automatically yet though), and there's all kind of support infrastructure in that folder that i don't want to diff every time, but also don't want to shuffle around ☝︎☟︎

phf: oh poop, i guess i'll have to work on hard bugs instead :/ ☟︎

thestringpuller: Yea. I don't think it was the version. I think I "broke" my chrome at work.

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485570 << that should already happen, so probably feature is broken in one of the browsers. if you can give me name/version i could debug it, and possibly even fix it ☝︎

Framedragger: yeah i observed how dupe check works correctly in phuctor, and in retrospect it really is important, right

Framedragger: i'll read that djb's paper soon now

Framedragger: right, you need to go through every existing modulus and check against it, i guess

Framedragger: i.e. do the loop of for each as part of the query itself; but maybe you already do that

Framedragger: asciilifeform: if it's a regular rdbms i guess you can at least pipeline it in the db itself, e.g. https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/queries-with.html - but i imagine the bottleneck is not exactly there

mircea_popescu: i guess so huh

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485551 << i would say 'idiots who believed promises made by state are extinct' but this appears not to be the case. ☝︎

asciilifeform: though when i exclude files, i simply move'em ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 04:23 phf: which is handy if you're using something else to produce the patch, or if you need to use a non-trivial diff command. for example i sometimes need to exclude files from diffing, so a command might look like diff -x foo -x bar -x qux -ruN a b | grep -v '^Binary files ' | vdiff > foo.vpatch

KGery: How do i request credidentals to Eulorum now?

shinohai: lol I just realized that gatecoin was a "partner" of slock.it

mircea_popescu: much like that slock muppet isn't coming out with a "we fucked it all up, i'm unqualified to trim hedges" suicide note.

thestringpuller: actually i'm trad marking that "Master Shill"(tm)

thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "Groups of scammers use these idiots, exactly like the 'Ndrangheta used that Josh Zerlan muppet" << goes back to the thread of "Bernie Madoff wasn't to blame alone"; i.e. the muppets that vouched/pumped his scam

thestringpuller: "I think we're soon going to see discussions of liability consume this community in a way that makes the MtGox fiasco look simple by comparison -- because it was, in terms of liability."

shinohai: I have a few of those dongles, have always loved tagging pulsars with it

Framedragger: shinohai: nice. also, i just remembered probing one of those software defined radios on the internet, and hearing this high frequency thing. checked, it said it was some pulsar. that thing out there doing full 360 degree spins in less than a second, and us hearing it.. cool stuff

shinohai: Framedragger: I think of pulsars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHEVo-LkDrQ

mircea_popescu: "I will buy Ether from any users who rage quit because of a hard fork. It won't be much because most opposition here is from non-stakeholders trying to deny stakeholders their right to self determination." << that's how http://trilema.com/2015/the-definitive-sovereign/ 's "the people themselves" is called now ? "right to self determination" ?

shinohai: I miss giant parabolic antennas of the 80's

mircea_popescu: any chance of putting this on ~your blog~, so if three years from now i go "hey i wonder where was that thing phf made with the diffs" i can save an hour ?

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485526 << i can only guess at what this sort of thing does to teh mp hater, ☝︎

shinohai: this is the first time i've actually been to ethereum sub. its filthy.

mircea_popescu: shinohai i still dunno if that's a good or a bad for bit-card

shinohai: ;;later tell mircea_popescu I sense a thaw in relations now: http://archive.is/hbqvK "Gibe monies plox"

shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo thanks, will make up for shitposting with something good when I can tune in something besides dao/ether noise.

felipelalli: (sorry, I'm a little drunk) https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4ox7re/as_a_bitcoin_hodler_i_beg_please_make_the_fork/

phf: which is handy if you're using something else to produce the patch, or if you need to use a non-trivial diff command. for example i sometimes need to exclude files from diffing, so a command might look like diff -x foo -x bar -x qux -ruN a b | grep -v '^Binary files ' | vdiff > foo.vpatch ☟︎☟︎☟︎

phf: for interested parties, i have a modified version of vdiff. http://paste.lisp.org/display/318813 (this one is mac specific, so if your shasum is different command you need to patch that, otherwise it should be portable)

mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm for bed. laters.

asciilifeform: i still recall when arsebot was king.

asciilifeform: lel i bet i win by 1 pastespew

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log-top-posters?start-date=2016-06-01 <<< check it out, i lose o.O

mircea_popescu: But I never blamed the Hole Hawg; I blamed myself. The Hole Hawg is dangerous because it does exactly what you tell it to. It is not bound by the physical limitations that are inherent in a cheap drill, and neither is it limited by safety interlocks that might be built into a homeowner's product by a liability-conscious manufacturer. The danger lies not in the machine itself but in the user's failure to envision the full cons

mircea_popescu: t use it. After a few such run-ins, when I got ready to use the Hole Hawg my heart actually began to pound with atavistic terror.

mircea_popescu: ge bit around, and had stalled at the slightest obstruction, the Hole Hawg rotated with the stupid consistency of a spinning planet. When the hole saw seized up, the Hole Hawg spun itself and me around, and crushed one of my hands between the steel pipe handle and a joist, producing a few lacerations, each surrounded by a wide corona of deeply bruised flesh. It also bent the hole saw itself, though not so badly that I couldn'

mircea_popescu: I myself used a Hole Hawg to drill many holes through studs, which it did as a blender chops cabbage. I also used it to cut a few six-inch-diameter holes through an old lath-and-plaster ceiling. I chucked in a new hole saw, went up to the second story, reached down between the newly installed floor joists, and began to cut through the first-floor ceiling below. Where my homeowner's drill had labored and whined to spin the hu

mircea_popescu: heh i guess there's that.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485426 << i had duck down pillows in boston. you just don't know enough womenz :D ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 02:32 phf: i kind of assume those things are not actually designed for drilling, but for accessorizing at home depot

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485404 << likely. back when i was in the us a decade ago, a very visible 1/3 of tools had a very nailpolish-and-high heels value ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 02:12 phf: i also had one of these guys http://goodlinez.ru/userfiles/85.jpg

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485387 << i have touched the exact item! ☝︎

asciilifeform: i always pictured ben_vulpes's flat as similar to my old 'nazi submarine' (complete with storage bulkheads in obscene places, cramming every possible ullage full of goodiez)

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> i don't even know where the servers are going to go yet. << hey, at least it's no longer "life in an elevator"

BingoBoingo: I don't think there are powered tools anymore that aren't chinese.

asciilifeform: i saw full size lathe with plastic motherfucking gears.

asciilifeform: i've always almost wanted to put together a 'ithasplasticgears.com' public shame list.

a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 02:28 BingoBoingo: A few months ago got my first cordless drill. Went with "Ryobi Starter Drill" so the battery would work with reciprocating saw I wanted which comes without battery. Reciprocating saw is wonderful. Drill chuck slips on drill bits all the time so in a futile effort t detach chuck the contents of the drill's gearbox is now scattered on a corner of my desk.

asciilifeform: i sleep on a pillow made some time in 1970s. by hand.

asciilifeform: aha, i have it.

phf: http://guns.allzip.org/topic/9/1433825.html << that's probably same production line as the one i had

phf: i'm trying to ebay one at the moment :>

a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 02:12 phf: i also had one of these guys http://goodlinez.ru/userfiles/85.jpg

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485387 << i still have this ! ☝︎

BingoBoingo: anyways this time I'll probably actually try it in the store before leaving. Get drill, masonry bits, and concrete block then test it in the tool rental area. If people test riding morwers there I don't see why I can't test drill.

phf: i was actually comparing a zojirushi rice cooker that i bought from amazon to the one my jap friend brought from motherland. it's sort of like is somebody designed an item that's supposed to look identical from the distance, but has lower resolution upon closer inspection. missing features, BIG buttons and less of them, cheaper rougher molding. it's hilarious

phf: i kind of assume those things are not actually designed for drilling, but for accessorizing at home depot ☟︎

BingoBoingo: I am still puzzled by the decision to give cheapest drill a gearbox with 16 clutch settings instead of a chuck that can fucking hold a bit.

BingoBoingo: A few months ago got my first cordless drill. Went with "Ryobi Starter Drill" so the battery would work with reciprocating saw I wanted which comes without battery. Reciprocating saw is wonderful. Drill chuck slips on drill bits all the time so in a futile effort t detach chuck the contents of the drill's gearbox is now scattered on a corner of my desk. ☟︎

phf: oh nice, i've not picked up that skill until quite recently, maybe a year ago i bought a whittling knife before a trip to alaska and i've been kind of doodling with it since

phf: i have this etched really close up image of drill head in my head that i couldn't quite place until i realized just now that it's that very drill

phf: oh man, i forgot about this thing. i'm pretty sure it was my first exposure to a mechanical object that i used extensively and had to take care of

phf: i'm pretty sure i've done that, at least to prime the spot. also as a child that's kind of a natural inclination

phf: i also had one of these guys http://goodlinez.ru/userfiles/85.jpg ☟︎☟︎

phf: actually i used an equivalent drill for years growing up http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yankee-Div-of-Stanley-Tools-No-2101A-8-inch-Brace-Drill-RATCHETING-Bell-Syst-/142029809022

phf: i like comcast. it's the people's republic of america people's internet, it works, unless it doesn't, in which case go to competition lol

asciilifeform: though, many years ago when i used it, they actually neglected to bill me for almost 2 years.

asciilifeform: first nice thing i ever heard about crapcast

asciilifeform: where i live, telco will drop the fiber and that's it, any extra plumbing is yours to sweat

ben_vulpes: plus then i don't have to deal with running cat5 through living spaces, because in this povery-stricken part of the world everyone wants their data pipes in the room where children should be playing for some reason

ben_vulpes: i did that for a while, when moving frequently. its not really that much of a hassle to get it put in wherever, and to insulate the offense to the skin myself.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i typically reuse the landline opening.

ben_vulpes: i don't even know where the servers are going to go yet.

asciilifeform: i meant cat6

ben_vulpes: ask me how i know.

asciilifeform: lol i have this right here.

ben_vulpes: i find the uneven floor charming.

ben_vulpes: in entirely unrelated /america no es un pais pobre/ news, i have an address outside of portland for the first time in nearly two decades

jurov: i trial divided whole set by 10000primes.txt, recommend very much to find problems

Framedragger: jurov: no i meant exponent in this case actually, the actual exponent for that key was supposed to be 65537

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah this is only a test. i'll send alf the whole openpgp-wrapped bundle once that's done processing. the above is just a test, and it's a false positive

mircea_popescu: oh. i thought sha ball was going in

a111: Logged on 2016-06-19 21:52 Framedragger: asciilifeform: i've accidentally (== i fucked up) imported one mutilated key to phuctor. this key in particular http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EE6E84ED0485E5C4615D47E7BF518A35F1A8DE60C6DFBBF1F60B1911839726CE - guess it can't hurt if it's there, but if/when phuctor reports broken key (that particular exponent is not prime), it's gonna be due to me being retarded and not the key..

jurov: i'm missing out on all the conspiracies and fun!!!

mircea_popescu: common for aws hosted sites i think

mircea_popescu: but i guess power is relatively unimportant, fetish of power is interesting!

fwr: I find this incredibly hard to believe that there is this sort of money involved

Framedragger: asciilifeform: i've accidentally (== i fucked up) imported one mutilated key to phuctor. this key in particular http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EE6E84ED0485E5C4615D47E7BF518A35F1A8DE60C6DFBBF1F60B1911839726CE - guess it can't hurt if it's there, but if/when phuctor reports broken key (that particular exponent is not prime), it's gonna be due to me being retarded and not the key.. ☟︎

shinohai: Sorry, but I'm tired of sitting at home, I dream to go for a walk."

shinohai: "I lost my leg in a car accident, collecting some BTC for prosthesis i really want to function normally.

mircea_popescu: i dun really think it's any sort of filter on trilema side. they might not actually make it across at all.