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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> not even the directorate which runs the gavins, the hearns, ever seems to leak so much as a drop. << the reason is that utterly nobody gives a shit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. the nsa itself long knew it is both a) deeply ineffectual and b) extremely loud. which is why now and again i say something to the effect of "wtf straw must one have in head to work for those dorks, move on already."
mircea_popescu: anyway. maybe new elbrus brings ofw back.
mircea_popescu: note the fist fucking ever appropriate use of "she"
mircea_popescu: i see you're well entertained.
mircea_popescu: lel
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: does it even work ?
mircea_popescu: well, that and not being read.
mircea_popescu: that's why the forum's here for.
mircea_popescu: (ie, someone else.)
mircea_popescu: and yes, better money just ask mimi for instance.
mircea_popescu: davout operator sshs into network node.
mircea_popescu: i concur. "unconfirmed tx" is improperly thought of as a tx.
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: because now - they can ssh connect!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally your ssh thing may well have been a major step forward for this split.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform quite.
mircea_popescu: if net-trb decides to engage in a reorg, it will eventually induce one in all the wallet-trbs connected to it.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't store ~the mempool~ is all.
mircea_popescu: meh. wallet doesn't NOT store the chain. it's just stock trb.
mircea_popescu: davout wallet doesn't.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just about. and large in the sense of alcatel not in the sense of alphabet, at that.
mircea_popescu: davout why not ?
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's the simplest-possible, which still doesn't promise it's simpler than any arbitrary level.
mircea_popescu: davout well it's certainly not trivial, no.
mircea_popescu: you understand ? backfeed fucking computing, "if i do this this happens so you press thios button" sorta excel-dev.
mircea_popescu: sounds about the level.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is like the paradigm of thought.
mircea_popescu: this has been a honest-to-god real-time davout node emerging in march going "so guyse... chatlog-block-419333 is highest rite ?" and resyncs ensued. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: eh trhat';s a dead branch, let it be.
mircea_popescu: you don't have to invent a new protocol.
mircea_popescu: well no, let them talk to each other as they do now exactly.
mircea_popescu: and so there you go
mircea_popescu: then also conceivably the changes will be backported into trb main once well tested
mircea_popescu: yep
mircea_popescu: conceivably can use current trb as your genesis for this.
mircea_popescu: then you can take stock trb, operate on it, and so people interested can pick both version, have internal-external couple.
mircea_popescu: you can just take stock trb, operate on it, and place it so it only connects to operator-specified trb nodes.
mircea_popescu: how so ?
mircea_popescu: well yes but the idea was to split.
mircea_popescu: this'd be wallet-trb.
mircea_popescu: node-trb.
mircea_popescu: keeping a pile of ALL utxos, as the alternative, is not very good, because you end up storing a bunch of (potentially toxic) crap
mircea_popescu: maybe fundamental problem appears.
mircea_popescu: well ok so then you can just make it.
mircea_popescu: i don't see the user has a leg to stand on, "i'm not sure which my addresses are". if you add some - there's a (minor) penalty.
mircea_popescu: pretty much
mircea_popescu: davout dja see a problem with it ?
mircea_popescu: 2013ish actually afaik.
mircea_popescu: do you know since when ?
mircea_popescu: lel
mircea_popescu: lol ok. anyway, the issue is that you seemed diverged, ie conversation is there, you're doing something else with no real discussion of why / what's wrong with it / etc.
mircea_popescu: well, if you're not willing the read the jan 3rd discussion, i guess.
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: absolutely.
mircea_popescu: well then why's it there.
mircea_popescu: trb too, for now, i guess.
mircea_popescu: i also dun get 2. how's the fact you already have the index you need related to the fact prb fucks up output selection ?
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: didja ever discuss the unsuitability of that ?
mircea_popescu: i thought that was adequately resolved through layering.
mircea_popescu: ok, so then what's teh problem ?
mircea_popescu: that's the bit i was looking for.
mircea_popescu: davout so the competing idea, other than "maintain uxto unspent index", was "maintain index of txn involving specified list of addresses"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-03#1595779 << ah there it was. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (but yes, this was broadly the idea there, index by arbitrary-address-list)
mircea_popescu: how will the user specify them
mircea_popescu: i also recall a thread re how to do this with maybe mimi or else deedbot, which i don't think is that one
mircea_popescu off to re-read that thing
mircea_popescu saving the next 14:25 - 13:55 interval of this convo.
mircea_popescu: "i am confused" "evidently"
mircea_popescu: "how so" "because you didn't link to the conversation here, you linked to your own thingee"
mircea_popescu: seems kinda solipsistic.
mircea_popescu: can link ?
mircea_popescu: did what you have in mind come from a discussion here at any point ?
mircea_popescu: well, so how is it coming along ?
mircea_popescu: "what part of the conversation this links to ?" "no, just stuff going on in my head" "seems like stuff going on in your head" "how so"
mircea_popescu: seems somewhat solipsistic
mircea_popescu: Framedragger they have a point, indians don't do unit tests.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure you did, especially given that there totally even are other things to do irl. like... what ?
mircea_popescu: "oh i had some other things to do."
mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem being that it's way the fuck easier to spend day clicking through lolpics and "voting" on whatever retarded 2.0 site than reading the logs ; which then down the road means that one can'd do jack shit that's useful because drooled in class instead of paying attention. and so it goes, the gap between man and cow ever deepens.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the fellow who was looking to be useful could write a phuctor - confirmed - by - wikileaks piece for qntra.
mircea_popescu gets lucky and is right on occasions!
mircea_popescu: which is badly designed and dun work.
mircea_popescu: hardly worth 0.1% of the budget. "cyberwarfare" hurr durr.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the "law enforcement" / terrorist government bs reduces to "we're like in the top 20 or so malware houses". hurr.
mircea_popescu: keeps changing anyway, notjust for above reason.
mircea_popescu: half the time they don't even bother to argue the point, go down like common malware artists.
mircea_popescu: anyway, shutting down the "lp/c2" bs is about half the fun of this internet life.
mircea_popescu: well it'd have to be more current, five years later.
mircea_popescu: oh i thought you already had THAT
mircea_popescu: hey, didn't that hawking fellow have an eyeball typewriter ?
mircea_popescu: when is this when ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22%27P%27%22 << stretches back... A YEAR.
mircea_popescu: speaking of, asciilifeform what about that ada rsa for eulora!
mircea_popescu: notrly. trump vs the rogue usg, kinda meh.
mircea_popescu: aha. an' who might you be ?
mircea_popescu: davout this links into which part of the conversation ? ☟︎