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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do not exactly believe b-a is intended for the workaday people. << do elaborate. should all of us but you & kako pack up? or some other thing implied << well, i know you self-motivate by refusing to see some degrees, but there are some degrees.

decimation: mircea_popescu: you mean running bdb as a separate process?

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes ^

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: even if the work of a policeman consisted solely in going to a doughnut shop and eating a kg of garbage every day, so long as he -must- -- that is still work.

undata: set proper VIDEO_CARDS, emerge -avuDN @world, config kernel, reboot

decimation: http://www.funtoo.org/Funtoo_Linux_FAQ << "Part of the distinctiveness of Funtoo Linux is its dependency-based OpenRC init system, so changing this would make it something other than Funtoo Linux. So we do not support systemd as part of Funtoo Linux. "

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to some extend it exactly mirrors the bitcoind situation - in that every serious user more or less has his own private fork.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gentoo << complicated. the lead dev surrendered to microshit (literally) some years ago, and it's been run by a skeleton crew ever since, with numerous high-profile catastrophes (of the 'your machine is suddenly rendered unusable by a perfectly innocent-looking action' variety) -- but there is -no- adequate replacement to this day.

BingoBoingo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploding_head_syndrome << most interesting event I've had with regularity. Not interested in Clomipramine at all though because I like getting boners.

decimation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Multiphasic_Personality_Inventory

decimation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-52_Stratofortress << ' removal of the tail gun in 1991' wow later than I thought

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i do not exactly believe b-a is intended for the workaday people. << do elaborate. should all of us but you & kako pack up? or some other thing implied << I believe for the rest #b-a is Frankenstein's attic laboratory

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do not exactly believe b-a is intended for the workaday people. << do elaborate. should all of us but you & kako pack up? or some other thing implied

decimation: ben_vulpes: what platform are you working on?

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: but simply happens to be when my box exhausted ram from leakage and began to fandango on the db.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i suspect that there is nothing magic about that block

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the discussion was not about 'enough money', but about the distinct and clearly identifiable phase transition where your time becomes 100% your own

undata: asciilifeform: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_for_Employment_and_Economic_Development_%28Honduras%29 ??

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: however, ben himself wants a tower of hydrocarbons. and if he gets it, he'll want something else. << actually, afaik what he was speaking for is my escape rocket metaphor.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not from my puny brain.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's not a bad theory in any sense. got any policy proposals based on it ? << beyond 'open a physical empire where we can all defect to and die like men in the janissary corps' - no useful idea.

undata: mircea_popescu: yeah, the core is written in go, then services in whathaveyou

PeterL: mircea_popescu: fixed the blog site

BingoBoingo: lulz at the reddit writeup on Thermos https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mei83/for_the_amount_of_money_that_theymos_is_paying/

BingoBoingo: T-cHnyGuZg5bcKBN5AKZQGikn4UXWSael2cfWuu8GPZMT8qTuiE--sgR0IMGZMZhEMZJLy_F7b1V52hgFCijS5ioQbrvA7j3MDZZadhYolJmG8nKy5o6FTGJTwogtdmRCZVw&h=200&w=555&scale=1

BingoBoingo: Consider this stretch of road https://www.google.com/maps/vt/data=U4aSnIyhBFNIJ3A8fCzUmaVIwyWq6RtIfB4QKiGq_w,LR8A3wsCX4O7WF8-Cb8aigY6iTF1FIBrcYw-yVrSAavWXtZ5NfG6OeE9qFNtVdMDhkNnFpmhOfI2PU3QsUWW8TFXwtA8KEdiXYSgqm9znAZCKo6cBIrHDLz430KxyNObA--GQCnxFjo-vjNVDgvuK_qdZQ,oiRvm6TLtMPKeIbqUE9FRzURnfIRIDWBlGt2jTM-5OK0ssLA8uXFkOjq-5VkzSBz6sarVJ1YPhc0bZhwS56IZ8L_31klCsxLt-sUUr-27DWv1-qczcsFi27rvooqO8cwvhenztfmuYMKZgzEXsdEB_ZtKlfUoFLgNZuvqX3J3t

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You'd probably be the only one in some other channel.

gribble: (gettrust [<sourcenick>] <destnick>) -- Get trust paths for <destnick>, starting from <sourcenick>. If <sourcenick> is not supplied, your own nick is used as the source. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Notes_about_gettrust

empyex: mircea_popescu: Health-Indicators: Homepage: √ MK Depth JSON: √ VWAP JSON: √

empyex: mircea_popescu: MPEx-Status: mpex.biz (116 milliseconds), mpex.bz (131 milliseconds), mpex.ws (350 milliseconds), mpex.coinbr.com (1681 milliseconds), mpex.co (error)

empyex: mircea_popescu: Proxies: mpex.biz mpex.co mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com mpex.ws Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91

punkbot: mircea_popescu: No pending deeds | Last bundle 1 hour and 9 minutes ago

Anduck: mircea_popescu: you know the new monero/bitcoin rpg stuff by rpietila?

Anduck: mircea_popescu: remember, the people who you call 'idiots' may be living a happier life than you ☟︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: The whole idea that anything can be so "shared" as to have no value in itself is not a problem if the rest of the world ensures that nobody _is_ starving or needing money. <<< this is nonsense anyway. money is always needed, this is a scaling problem. average rat living in a hole in the middle east linking his pretenses to humanity to his possesion of an old cellphone someone lost may think ben_vulpes' l

assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 20:12:52; punkbot: mircea_popescu: No valid deeds found, try again. Errors: (msg1: invalid)

mircea_popescu: !up gabriel_laddel

punkbot: mircea_popescu: No valid deeds found, try again. Errors: (msg1: invalid)

punkbot: mircea_popescu: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle.

punkbot: mircea_popescu: No valid deeds found, try again. Errors: (msg1: dupe)

punkbot: mircea_popescu: No valid deeds found, try again. Errors: (msg1: invalid)

punkbot: mircea_popescu: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle.

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski:"where's the $1.5mn funding for nanotube's WoT" << perhaps you don';t understand what "a protocol for decentralized and password-less authentication" means.

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: modesty the likes of which would shock a johnny come lately reader << But within that basic framework there are many subtle variations, only discernable to an acute observer, that reflect the many moods, the many shades, the many sides of MP!

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: can anyone remember the title of that trilema article where mircea_popescu discloses how much he sold that 5% chunk of mpex for? << http://trilema.com/2013/smpoe-takes-strategic-investor/ ?

punkbot: mircea_popescu: No valid deeds found, try again. Errors: (msg1: invalid)

Anduck: ._.

punkman: mircea_popescu: I think problem with that is that it stops at nested END PGP SIGNATURE, instead of the outer one

punkbot: mircea_popescu: No valid deeds found, try again. Errors: (msg1: invalid)

Anduck: mircea_popescu: as you saw, i tried without first

punkman: mircea_popescu: it disconnected and had to use alt name, guess I should set it up to revert to notary

Anduck: mircea_popescu: does it cost to use deed service?

asciilifeform: marry, start a family, buy a house, have an accident, get seriously ill for a while, or a number of other very expensive things people actually do all the time, and the value of your work starts to get very real and concrete to you, at which point giving away things to be "nice" to some "community" which turns out not to be "nice" _enough_ in return that you will actually stay alive, is no longer an option. Al

asciilifeform: 'The whole idea that anything can be so "shared" as to have no value in itself is not a problem if the rest of the world ensures that nobody _is_ starving or needing money. For young people who have parents who pay for them or student grants or loans and basically have yet to figure out that it costs a hell of a lot of money to live in a highly advanced society, this is not such a bad idea. Grow up, graduate,

pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes cheers mate

ben_vulpes: adios pete_dushenski, see you another day.

pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes a but of course

ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: oh i own one. rarely use it though.

pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes i want a giant tower of hydrocarbons << for some reason i didn't even think you had a car

asciilifeform thought ben_vulpes already did something of the kind at day job

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what do you have in mind?

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what's an 'end password' ?

pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes a house with a pool ?

ben_vulpes: what would he need the money for, pete_dushenski? embedding contracts in the blockchain?

pete_dushenski: https://twitter.com/pete_dushenski/status/533660967549157376

pete_dushenski: can anyone remember the title of that trilema article where mircea_popescu discloses how much he sold that 5% chunk of mpex for?

asciilifeform: jurov: re: spanish: http://orwell.ru/library/essays/Spanish_War/english/esw_1

pete_dushenski: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/14/us/series-of-secret-service-blunders-eased-way-for-white-house-intruder.html?_r=0 << makes that gasenwagen a lot less threatening of a theory

BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2maur6/an_open_letter_to_jason_king_of_seans_outpost/cm2l3ae

nubbins`: <mircea_popescu> <undata> if I were russia, I'd wait for the US to go balls deep into the middle east again, and then I'd grab some of the north pole's oil, <<< obviously, you're not russia. <<< dat unfamilairity with arctic sovereignty claims

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Probably? Where to fix?

RagnarDanneskjol: lols http://open.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/11/13/embracing-https/?_r=2

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: From the gif where it did the salt licking

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Clam one of yours?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: imagine if, e.g., the 'golden gate' bridge had been built by a retarded child. out of match sticks.

decimation: what about the homburg hat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homburg_%28hat%29

cazalla: mircea_popescu, sounds familiar, this story on trilema?

assbot: Logged on 14-04-2014 18:26:21; gribble: THE FEELING OF POWER by Isaac Asimov Worlds of Science ...: <http://www.math.umn.edu/~rusin018/1271_Fall_2006/extra_1.pdf>; The Feeling of Power - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feeling_of_Power>; MathFiction: The Feeling of Power (Isaac Asimov) - Alex Kasman: <http://kasmana.people.cofc.edu/MATHFICT/mfview.php?callnumber=mf4>

cazalla: mircea_popescu: certainly not a top hat. <<< maybe akubra? nfi on top hats but they have a solid rep

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: use laser separation.

cazalla: mircea_popescu, working but slowly http://pastebin.com/4XCDXVSi

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you sit down and think about it for a bit, you can figure out six different methods.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: give man a few days with ion beam workstation.

gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TLA | TLA is a three-letter-acronym for three-letter-acronyms. by uncle tom ... It always have been and will be Lucas and Peyton, TLA (True Love Always). by lp_tla ...

Adlai: mircea_popescu: playing around with the magnitude of "valuable" in http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-11-2014#922718 ☝︎

thestringpuller: @mircea_popescu

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't even think code as tight can still be made, much like you can't have a proper boot made... << oh but it can.

fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, it's down, I'm sure. http://check-host.net/check-http?host=qntra.net

Adlai is talking about "Did you mean: <a class="spell" href="/search?espv=2&q=recursion&spell=1">recursion</a> "

gribble: Recursion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursion>; Recursion (computer science) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursion_(computer_science)>; Recursion -- from Wolfram MathWorld: <http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Recursion.html>

fivezerotwo: have fun figuring out what this attack is ^_^

assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 05:39:14; mircea_popescu: internet needs a canoniucal down domain

joecool: mircea_popescu: nginx or whatever other server you use on it crashed?

assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 05:39:46; mircea_popescu: aha!

BingoBoingo: http://m.tn.com.ar/deportes/tremendo/indignante-el-presidente-de-textil-mandiyu-le-robo-a-sus-jugadores-con-la-ayuda-de-los-barras_544582

cazalla: when looking for news, i come across quite a few MLM schemes for bitcoin such as bitcoincycler.net, quite a few use pic/video of JuliaTourianski_ lol

decimation: !up cascadian_lurker