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mircea_popescu: Joshua-I think about it, it's either fail deadly or fail safe. if there's no power it can either lock or unlock. which do you pick ?
Joshua-I: I hope they don't make elevators lmao
mircea_popescu: possibly the most usg-tronic item in existence today. i'd rather have doberman patrols.
asciilifeform: i suspect that it is shadow-mandated somehow.
mircea_popescu: god i hate those things. from an institutional perspective - all anyone has to do to open all your doors is cut the power. from an individual perspective fuck me i'm not going in the rat maze.
mircea_popescu: Joshua-I you mean wgat, like access control cards sorta application ?
Joshua-I: In combination with wot I don't think it's half bad though
asciilifeform: there are other problems, but the logz seem to be missing the main thread, so i will summarize a few: it is physically impossible to fit a serious rng in the thing, regardless of how constructed; the pc knows that a dedicated crypto hardware item is connected, and if attacker controls it he can sign/decrypt whatever the hell he wants with your card; and a bunch more.
asciilifeform: Joshua-I: main problem is that it is a single-chip item that is not in any meaningful way inspectable.
Joshua-I: asciilifeform: sorry, I really need to habituate that
asciilifeform: Joshua-I: see logs
asciilifeform: 'What really makes Fairphone different is its marketing of radical transparency. For the first time, I’m thinking about what’s inside my phone, where it came from and who touched it before I did. '
mircea_popescu: (i imagine this was a network timeout mostly)
Joshua-I: True BingoBoingo last time I had to do that it was at least 15mins signing the thing not to mention the pointless talk before hand ☟︎
shinohai: Yup thought I'd never catch up on those #b-a lawgz lately
pete_dushenski: i get that it's like 13sec of reading per day, but still.
pete_dushenski: ahahahaha dude... why would i be reading b-a logs ?
pete_dushenski: i think a wet cardboard box would be paradise compared to dc
pete_dushenski: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2016/07/yuval_levin_on_1.html << not a bad episode for the armchair anthropologist log reader. the girl and i took away different key messages (her : pure individualism leads to ruin, i : pure mega-statalism leads to ruin), but it was full of reasonably well-articulated arguments from inside the american echo chamber
pete_dushenski: huh. coulda sworn it was in here before. not the first i've heard of it but ah well.
phf: i'm tired of asciilifeform's abuse, i'm getting log recovery squared away
shinohai: I kinda thought Bitcoin is supposed to *destroy* the welfare state, not perpetuate it.
shinohai: "Freud suggested that the project's success or failure would be determined by the impact on those receiving welfare payments." which will be zero, I'm certain.
mircea_popescu: heh i had the wrong page up.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform perhaps i am!
asciilifeform: perhaps i'm missing some detail.
mircea_popescu: i'm a man of taste.
asciilifeform: from same page: '"First," he said, "because it is not fit that I should sit as a judge and nobody to be hanged; secondly, you must be hanged because you have a damned hanging look; thirdly, you must be hanged because I am hungry. There's a law for ye, ye dog. Take him away.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno, really. it's a pot calling kettle black situation, neither side of this debate is in much position to claim cultural ancientitude.
mircea_popescu: not that a) i can even for a second imagine it wasn't entirely merited nor b) reached at any point the level of my disdain for argentinians.
asciilifeform: the 'pig' remark was, i suspect, an answer to his thing that was in the spirit of http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/08/it-takes-more-than-time-it-takes-generations
mircea_popescu: ~ darker than the gypsies (slaves, at the time), you spent years begging around here, you, well received yet failed to profer as much as thanks. we fed you bread and salt (i dunno, it's a romanian thing) and wine from our ample cave, but when the morn came you took a shit in the flowerbed, laughing. then through thousand year old forests walked to no apparent benefit (literally, for love of the ho), and so there you see : no
mircea_popescu: apparently there's a lot of bad blood there. i had nfi.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so i hear.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perhaps it will add some wtf to the mix if i add that these are ~virgin~ lands, with no communications (not even, in most places, any mains current or plumbing)
mircea_popescu: i got it right, straight by amur etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can see why ; locals are ~goats.
asciilifeform: (though i have nfi who is.)
asciilifeform: i suspect that mircea_popescu is not the target audience.
mircea_popescu: i want to be a ru citizen just about as much as i want to be an us citizen.
mircea_popescu: it was an utter shock, they're so cheap and effectual i fully expected EVERY shoreline EVERYWHERE is protected by them
mircea_popescu: i thought he was with teh fairfaxen
mircea_popescu: i suspect so did the colonists. "make it shitty so nobody wants to be there"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, descended from 'arap' - fella given to peter I as slave, but whom he ennobled instead
ben_vulpes: anyways, subject of isotropically distributed CF, i don't think we've don "carbon fiber forging" or more accurately described "injection-molded CF": http://www.quantumcomposites.com/pdf/papers/2011-ASC-montreal-forged-suspens.pdf
ben_vulpes: not actually a fence i pissed on myself.
ben_vulpes: i forget the specific details of what caused the fire i saw.
ben_vulpes: i'm going to be someone tried to ground to the frame.
mircea_popescu: well, all i know on the topic is that "krypton" is a superman thing
mircea_popescu: superman logo i hope ?
shinohai: For only $19.95 trinque I can sell you money tree!
thestringpuller: i mean yes. but the "future of the consumer" seems nonexistent.
mircea_popescu: other than the screaming, i mean.
mircea_popescu: i dunno. if a bunch of blondies decide to inspect the abandoned house in the middle of the night, what usually happens to them ?
thestringpuller: I've found that Bitcoin is also anti-consumerist...
covertress: I'll be back... going to play with my little project now. nice chatting with you all. :)
mats: but i concede thats hopeful
mats: i'm sure these were just mbas
mircea_popescu: mats i recall the last time i was in a roomfull of engineers who decided they needed concrete but didn't know how to pour it. we were about seven, playing on riverside.
covertress: I met so many companies at Concensus who are convinced they need blockchain because it's the latest thing (internet 2.0 in their minds) but, they have no idea how to implement
covertress: if you all think ETH is a scam, then I think I found the right room :)
covertress: mircea_popescu: I get that a lot. but, no one knows how determined I am. :)
mircea_popescu: covertress well, your attitude's lovely and all, but unfortunately a) you've bit on something you can't actually swallow and b) i see no direct way to explain this to you in such a way it'd make sense, owing to your complete lack of even vaguely related experience. what'd i build on ?
covertress: I took time off from IT to explore other lives... was deckhand on historic schooner, 1st mate on PT boat, therapist, rest mgr. etc
danielpbarron: thestringpuller, nope just the one, and the panels sucked. I only 'attended' the few that were just cover for me to get assassination intel/kills
covertress: I just joined LI about 3 weeks ago.
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: I really love the survival aspect of events like that, and just existing. Porcfest sounds like it takes it a step further with sessions and panels or what not...
a111: Logged on 2016-07-07 14:44 covertress: I have industry connects, mad networking skills and no money. lol
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-07#1498625 << does this sentence stand in your eyes ? "i've great tits, wonderful body, nice face and no suitors." ☝︎
covertress: I have industry connects, mad networking skills and no money. lol ☟︎
covertress: nah, follow me on LI. I'm serious.
covertress: not much, I've been awol from IT for 15 years... just getting back in
covertress: I'm at ground zero here, looking for volunteer devs
covertress: covertress means female spy... but, I'm no spy. am head of Krypton, KR
asciilifeform: not sure i get it ?
mircea_popescu: i could see this.
asciilifeform: re earlier, i never quite grasped why every 'classy' diddled crypto peddler has to move to geneva. just because nsa-operated crypto AG corp. is there ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-07#1498532 << lel i misread as 1990s, and the thing was failing to pass checksum in my head so direly, i re-read six times before 'aha' ☝︎
asciilifeform: mats: i'd enjoy moar if i could get the link to load on me box
mats: i knew asciilifeform would enjoy that
asciilifeform: well i do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't like conan doyle either.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-07#1498497 <<< werd. Still waiting on my box to go live so I can get to experimenting. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html << is missing dulap, the single most robust trb node i know of
a111: Logged on 2016-07-07 00:46 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-06#1498418 << fwiw i don';t see this behaviour ; however i have perhaps the most egregious example of "permanently behind" node : "blocks" : 414720
mircea_popescu: meanwhile i fished out vintage "classic" and "default" themes : http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/classic-themestar.gz ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-07 00:04 Joshua-I: I must have read at least 12ish trilemas today but mainly only gleaned that me and mp share similar views about the ending to True Romance
a111: Logged on 2016-07-06 23:18 mod6: <+trinque> mod6: hey maybe the mircea_popescutronic wordpress is a better way to post TRB tutorials/updates than wiki << perhaps. i was hoping that with wiki (which, I admin, is not ideal) people could help out a bit more easily - as opposed to a blog or wp thing.
mircea_popescu: i thought the porcfest already was. is it coming up instead ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-06 23:17 shinohai: My trb node drops connections one by one every few hours and needs restart to connect. I'm way behind.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-06#1498418 << fwiw i don';t see this behaviour ; however i have perhaps the most egregious example of "permanently behind" node : "blocks" : 414720 ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-06#1498408 >> yup, i see it. not so bad after all, fiat deed system takes week+ ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-06 22:50 Joshua-I: Is there a directory of current projects / enterprises floating around somewhere?
thestringpuller: 3rd time i've heard that come up in topic in my life this week
shinohai: I was going to go to the Xday fest, but didn't feel like driving to Ohio
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: I've wanted to go to porcfest, cause it's in new england, but I dunno how it'd vibe with me. I like burns, so I'd figure I'd like it. Dunno tho.
Joshua-I: I must have read at least 12ish trilemas today but mainly only gleaned that me and mp share similar views about the ending to True Romance ☟︎
mod6: <+Joshua-I> Is there a directory of current projects / enterprises floating around somewhere? << http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/
trinque: Joshua-I: what exploit?
trinque: mod6: yeah I know have 419608