mircea_popescu: shinohai that's why the confusion took a week to clear ? because it wasn't 4,5 mn eth coins ?

mircea_popescu: so i think i invented a new cocktail. you cut up a fresh ripple pineapple, into small chunks. you pour an inch of fine cognac into an old style whiskey glass. you proceed to dip the chunks and eat them.

mircea_popescu: note that it's VASTLY a more common problem for boys, and ~in civilsiation~ than it is for girls.

mircea_popescu: which is dangerous, because if she's picked as well as orwell's dumb whore of a mother picked, the derp won't even try it he sucks so bad.

mircea_popescu: have you been brainwashed into disbelieving there's as many points in a line as in a plane ?

mircea_popescu: eventually a "king's representative" showed up, and this event marks the end of the classical period, and the start of the modern, ie decay.

mircea_popescu: more to the point, the "classical village" is an entity that survived fine with a dazzling array of law and regulation that a) exceeds in complexity modern codes and b) was entirely oral in nature while at the same time having... no police. at all, i mean. none. zip.

mircea_popescu: but go ahead, illustrate this difference between "a state" and "a church", i'm all ears.

mircea_popescu: the difference between "don't ever fuck a girl in this building, nor drip candle wax on her bare tits while she kneels on this particular wood plank" is no different from "don't call fat people niggers and don't park where that drawing is"

mircea_popescu: this is important. qualitatively it is exactly as much a state as any usg flavour. the discussion may be carried in quantitative terms,

mircea_popescu: the republic manages to extract tax without a tax extractor.

mircea_popescu: anyone know of a better/more intuitive manner of handling metasyntactic marks so as to not run into http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-08-06.log.html#t15:22:52 ?

mircea_popescu: contrary to what the state likes to claim, it is always "law enforcement" that creates "the criminal element" ; never the other way around. first there was a police, then there was a "law breaker"

mircea_popescu: "this is a car sold without the intent of its owner". to answer the perennial tyre-kicking question of "so why're you selling it"

mircea_popescu: so frequent in fact the manufacturers introduced a special category of "not new, but as-new" to cover for it.

mircea_popescu: (in other lulz : ro admits both technologie and technologeala as imports for "technology". the first is commonly used ; the latter is a portmanteau of tech and ologeala, which is the noun describing the "fact of having been made olog, ie, unable to walk". quite appropriately.)

mircea_popescu: in other news holy shit ffmpeg is a fine example of how not to do a -h switch. it overruns default terminal buffer!

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's your call, because the matter is quite acute : is it a safer system to demand 8kb entropy/second and hash 12 times ? or to demand say 128bytes/second and hash 768 times ? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: if we actually go with a 12-pass hashing method, this then will require > 8kb of entropy/second from the client, which isn't possibru without dedicated rng fountain.

mircea_popescu: with the possible exception of pm, which should be a separate function, and point-to-point. (ie, client encrypts to dest's key, not to server's key)

mircea_popescu: not a serious problem, i really intend to simply include a chat client. didn't mention this in the fls, but... all comms should be over irc anyway.

mircea_popescu: and then that "trash the dress" bullshit. looks exactly like a donna dolore set for the first two minutes, then it turns out the director isn't present and shit goes downhill from there.

mircea_popescu: there's only so many ways you can anchor gauze in a tree so it appears windblown.

mircea_popescu: all of them are ooooobviously "speshul". except... all of them are obviously the same fucking thing, the fuck are you gonna do out of a dork who doesn't own suits and a rando girl in a white gauze marshmellow ? within an acceptable budget ?

mircea_popescu: se daddy's artistique. hopefully the wife fucks around with a non-beta. but anyway :

mircea_popescu: possibly one of the more depressing activities available in contemporaneity is checking out the portofolio of one of those "artist" photographers that in practice survives out of taking wedding pictures. i don't mean the friend-of-the-bride etsy idiot that DOESN'T survive. i mean the dude who keeps a steady stream of work enough to feed a family, provided that family somehow decided to do on half the income of a plumber becau

mircea_popescu: anyway. greenmail is an antieconomic activity, in the sense that management group A divests capital goods in order to pay management group B to no longer pretend like it could do a better job of managing said capital goods.

mircea_popescu: which is also why start-up paying anything but warrants/options/stock is primo nonsense. but then again a no-nonsense approach would shut off most of the morti di fame who like to pretend they're participating in the economy, as they'd have to get proper jobs instead of aspie-ing all over town.

mircea_popescu: ie, labour is when you engage a stable of cowsies to die in your stable, circulating company scrip between the company store and the company workshop. then wages actually contribute to assets.

mircea_popescu: i've yet to see a start-up engage actual labour, in the classical sense of this term.

mircea_popescu: anyway. the scheme is both correct and very, VERY fucking scary to "start-ups", because within 12 to 18 months, ~100% of all their capital turns to "sweet parties we have thrown". which is a sad reality they dun wanna look in the face, especially not while trying to get someone/anyone to give them moar money.

mircea_popescu: anyway, the whole job of valuating a public corp reduces to adding the proper factors to those 3 categories.

mircea_popescu: seems a rather correct description of reality, too.

mircea_popescu: well, if you cash your paycheck and don't spend it, it's cash. if you spend it to buy a pair of shoes, you have a tangible asset. if you spend it to buy a round for all your friends, it's goodwill.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re glue, we'll be able to run a test server for it anyway.

mircea_popescu: in this case : here is the security loss from adding a 13th step to the 12 step scheme : 79. here is the security loss from not adding it, because rng starvation : 45.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in order for management to make decisions, all items must be put in the form a > b.

mircea_popescu: as a scalar, please.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no i'm not discussing here "a way to community consensus". the question is quite specific : given 12 passes, tell me how much strength i lose adding a 13th.

mircea_popescu: (a large part of this project is me trying to field-evaluate crypto schemes in the first place)

mircea_popescu: anyway because messages are highly structured to begin with, there's a whole lotta attacking surface available.

mircea_popescu: if he decyphers the 12th in a 12pass scheme he gets 1 message.

mircea_popescu: so it's impossible to make a rational decision here, from both ends. win-win, as they say.

mircea_popescu: but anyway, it's ok that there isn't : there ALSO isn't a way to evaluate strength loss due to "rng" starvation.

mircea_popescu: basic cryptoquestion i do not expect an answer to : is there a way to evaluate strength loss by hash pass in a scheme where otp is hashed and the hash used as next pass otp, for N passes of this ?

mircea_popescu: that part is not hard : a) you get a client ; b) you write it a drop-in wrapper for the messaging - this should be one function/class + the keygen. the same class should be used by server the same way, which we'll do the integration of.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so im thinking here, without a byte/sec sort of idea of what messaging is liable to look like, we can't really spec anything anyway. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i'm also not entirely certain a symmetric cypher or perhaps hash-and-rehash scheme won';t be better.

mircea_popescu: "largest message size" is more a sticking point.

mircea_popescu: hm. im guessing we'll get together with diana_coman and write a spec ? unless you want to propose one ?

mircea_popescu: would it cost a lot ? would it take very long ?

mircea_popescu: hm. like, s.mg to hire s.nsa as a subcontractor ?

mircea_popescu: mi gusto. decile a tus amigas tambien :)

mircea_popescu: "if you're the sort of guy who almost escaped the homeshitland, wouldn't you like to register in a cigna-powered "community of trust" ????"

mircea_popescu: and the various noise groups are both incapable mentally of using a wot and actually very affraid of locking out newbies because they perceive an (wholly hallucinated, but w/e, they're immersed in socialist ideology) existential threat : "they'll die without noobies"

mircea_popescu: anyway. it's altogether unclear how on earth one will wipe them this time. intelligently they're no longer using a gavin, but ~an anon hydra.

mircea_popescu: but yes, having the "fork" nonsense defeated, and the "we'll promote a shitcoin" defeated leaves the usg.lizzards ... one option.

mircea_popescu: nowadays a rather banal observation, but i guess not quite as crystallized in 2012.

mircea_popescu: considering a large part of the historical beef with tardstalk was over mismanagement of shitposting rights for idiots, the adventure of r/bitcoin is not particularly encouraging.

mircea_popescu: apparently r/btc exists to collect the various idiots who never heard of obama and think the russians invaded atlanta, georgia like a decade ago.

mircea_popescu: wtf is with the potatoes already ? you know they have a fucking STATUE of like... corn, in ohio ?

mircea_popescu: sure, and there's a nasdaq tmsr, and some canadian band ; and thorium-molten salt reactors and what have you.

mircea_popescu: you know, someone had a similar problem due to ancient gfx card / old drivers or somesuch. iirc there's a solution to tone down world items.