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asciilifeform: describe, for my enlightenment, the actual algo contemplated, Framedragger
asciilifeform: what option !
asciilifeform: has Framedragger finally discovered the ancient dream of riaa, the magical bits that tattle when copies ?
asciilifeform: who will know about it exactly how ??
asciilifeform: how do you propose to mechanically determine that a key has been stolen.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: who will alert you of this ? martians ?
asciilifeform: there is only then a privkey suffering from split-brain disease.
asciilifeform: there is no longer ~a~ you, once enemy has your privkey.
asciilifeform: any pretense to the contrary is fundamentally dishonest.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-28#1649519 << somebody with your key, in fact ~is~ you. just the same as if he had killed, skinned you, and put on your skin. ☝︎
asciilifeform: until -- gone.
asciilifeform: and a monotonic reduction in old ones.
asciilifeform: which means NO NEW NONFITTINGINHEAD items!! ☟︎
asciilifeform: Framedragger: the first step, as the quitting drinkin' folx say, 'is to realize that you have a problem'
asciilifeform: in particular, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-11#1581793 ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-11#1581753 << thread . ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: Framedragger: the only thing planned on top is a finite-step rpn calculator thing.
asciilifeform: waiwat
asciilifeform: 'what, you idiot niggers really thought that pygmies can run a country ? only yale graduates can run a country, shut up get back on yer knees'
asciilifeform: schneier won this one.
asciilifeform: and in the end, 'We acknowledge that the issue exists and will work towards fixing it. ... I will say this very clearly once again: there is an avoidable security flaw in the Tox handshake. This is not something someone made up. The effect is that if your secret key is stolen, an attacker can impersonate anyone to you. We will fix this issue, most likely by adopting Noise for handshakes.'
asciilifeform: didjaknow.
asciilifeform: experts.
asciilifeform: 'You might benefit from a bit of humility before comparing your protocol to OTR and SIGMA, both of which were groundbreaking works created by experts, as opposed to a slapdash protocol...'
asciilifeform: instead he reincarnates as 10,001 cryptoderps
asciilifeform: 'Perhaps Tox doesn't care about this, or about many of the threat models that modern AKEs are designed to protect against, in which case, probably it's fine to continue using your homebrewed crypto. But if you actually desire some kind of high assurance security, I strongly recommend not building your own protocols and instead use something designed by an educated expert, such as Noise.' << lol , schneier never dies.
asciilifeform: the cost of using an item that does not fit in head, is essentially the cognitive equivalent of curl liquishit | bash . ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-28#1649464 << gotta understand the principle : if martians landed tonight, and fixed, somehow, all of the bugs in openssl, and god signed off that there are no more -- openssl will STILL be a turd, because does not fit in head ! ☝︎
asciilifeform: by itself, that is
asciilifeform: Framedragger: how, precisely, is any bignumtron possibly turing-complete ?!
asciilifeform: ( is one even known to exist..? )
asciilifeform: does anybody have a favourite constant-time modular-exp ??
asciilifeform: ( and various other useful things )
asciilifeform: ^ with constant-time mul
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/DJJ8J/?raw=true << possibly of interest
asciilifeform: but if you don't know how to style correctly -- then, yes, don't.
asciilifeform: but this in re BingoBoingo's 'just don't style'
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: ( imho -- i'd much rather have everything monospace, if could only have one. )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: one problem -- some things MUST be monospaced.
asciilifeform: ty ben_vulpes .
asciilifeform: yes!!
asciilifeform: the characters TOUCH. it is physically painful to read.
asciilifeform: see screenshit
asciilifeform: also your last link is broken
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/grr.png
asciilifeform: i'm half-convinced that just about all commonplace linux fonts were specially made by wreckers in '90s.
asciilifeform: (why??)
asciilifeform: it is driving me batshit that this liquishit font is even ~on~ my box.
asciilifeform: would do a world'o'good.
asciilifeform: like qntra.
asciilifeform: how about ~not~ styling it.
asciilifeform: like misadjusted electric typewriter.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i must confess -- the font on your www is barely readable on my boxes. gloms horizontally.
asciilifeform: ( python3 was pushed as 'fix' for this, but -- as iirc described in mircea_popescu's www -- never actually worked. )
asciilifeform: ( because it -- or at least python2 -- is married to 'string is 7bit ascii' )
asciilifeform: python per se actually barfs on encounter.
asciilifeform: and it happens long before it hits the c.
asciilifeform: can't strip, hash won't match.
asciilifeform: needs full depythonization, it does.
asciilifeform: for instance : 0 orc glyph-bearing keys.
asciilifeform: plenty of room for improvement in phuctor.
asciilifeform: enough of the 'subkeys', 'endorsers', embedded photo (yes, makes for multi-100kB pubkeys) liquishit, devil knows what else.
asciilifeform: mod6: aha, the shitfest gotta die.
asciilifeform: ( his modulus, that is. )
asciilifeform: so in fact we had it.
asciilifeform: looks like latest copy, is simply same, but with new endorsers.
asciilifeform: and http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1C71FE2B34FBF7E725AAFEC7AF437D95A1BC8280B094508BE8E4399E22004C55 .
asciilifeform: oooh hey, hey, http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1BB77329C5FE26A5FABBDAA7FC7DC383BF20B6E528D0FE94F5D1E5C77B041ED1 .
asciilifeform: can argue that should've been. but wasn't. or it'd show 2016 date.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: entirely possible that it wasn't in the orig sks dump
asciilifeform looks
asciilifeform: if i correctly understood what phf wanted.
asciilifeform: pragma Unreferenced (foo);
asciilifeform: it will work (in geological time) but work!11
asciilifeform: no rush
asciilifeform: phf: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/z16GS/?raw=true << tentative constant-time >wordsize-increment shifters.
asciilifeform: so yes, up to procedure.
asciilifeform: you will notice that it is why there is scratch var Ni in the shifters.
asciilifeform: phf: perfectly legal to call with same variable as in and out.
asciilifeform: them beasts -- evolved, must be.
asciilifeform: incidentally BingoBoingo the conibears sprung many times ( and i tested with a stick, hair trigger, quite sensitive ) and caught 0.
asciilifeform: they have major pest control problem. not even conibear, will help.
asciilifeform: and omfg are these folx infested with leahs.
asciilifeform: over in the circus, EmmyNoether has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) << whod'vethunkit.
asciilifeform: mighty spiffy.
asciilifeform: ( phf's and Framedragger's both )
asciilifeform: hm looks like ze l0gz lose leadingwhitespace.
asciilifeform: lolk.
asciilifeform: end loop For_Loop;
asciilifeform: end if;
asciilifeform: exit For_Loop;
asciilifeform: if Overflow = 1 then
asciilifeform: FZ_Add(Result, Result, Result, Overflow);
asciilifeform: for I in Integer range 1 .. Exponent loop
asciilifeform: For_Loop:
asciilifeform: FZ_Set(Result, X); ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: your expt doesn't exponentiate, it (slowly) Shift_Left's.
asciilifeform: if exponent is 2**x, lolyes
asciilifeform: phf: also FZ_Add(Result, Result, Result, Overflow); can be a shift, neh.