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asciilifeform: i dun see how it could be mirrored without substantial redesign.
Framedragger: so your original wwwtronic thing would be preserved; i understand and appreciate its elegance
Framedragger: (i mean i'd mirror the thing, or something)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i implied that i'd be interested to maybe write an api; if everything's in postgres properly indexed, should be fine. hey i'm a masochist, all the better for tmsr!!1
a111: Logged on 2016-07-13 18:26 Framedragger: asciilifeform: i have moar ssh keys for ya: http://95.85.10.71:8000/all/openpgp/ssh_openpgp_diff_2016-07-13.tar (diff from that 10M bunch, i.e. only new ones) 920M file, 1.82M new ssh keys.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey i may be up for setting up some kind of searchable thing with everything dumped into postgres. not sure how much worth vs. time, but could be useful as these stats grow
asciilifeform: grep -i "not prime" [sadmods] | sort | uniq > sads
asciilifeform: same garden hose, for cake batter and for kerosene, i dun have a second.
asciilifeform: i'd love to learn what these folks had in common, other than the obvious misfortune.
asciilifeform: curl -s http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/sadmods | grep -c -i "exponent 1 is not prime"
asciilifeform: curl -s http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/edd4ff91-9ae8-422c-9138-d3d89bee597e/?raw=true | grep -c -i "ssh-rsa"
trinque: huh, wotpaste wont resolve over here; I shit thee not
asciilifeform: i should like to hear the 'innocent', boeckian explanation for the tall piles of dupolade.
asciilifeform: at some point i will add paged-by-default and 'view-all' link for grep
asciilifeform: as soon as i add this'n'that, it will turn into whorepress.
asciilifeform: it is painful but: i kept the proggy short, and it is - afaik - bug-free.
asciilifeform: i kept it a 1pager so i can grep
mircea_popescu: plox to write it, i'm not gonna.
mircea_popescu: i'm guessing phuctor is right on schedule : just about time for yet another paper, a month after the prev a month after the prev etc.
asciilifeform: i slept through this.
asciilifeform: $ curl -s http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/dupes | grep -c -i "framedragger" ☟︎
jurov: and i have nfi how to mitm some box in mexico
mircea_popescu: i would say as a matter of policy we should immediately hijack, copy and completely wipe these boxes.
asciilifeform: i see it
mircea_popescu: "Tonga will be permanently shut down and all associated crytographic keys destroyed on 2016-08-31. This should give the Tor developers ample time to stand up a substitute. I will terminate the chron job we set up so many years ago at that time that copies over the descriptors." << if there were a bitbet i'd put a little on "there will not be a replacement in time"
mircea_popescu: melting temperature i mean
mircea_popescu: well i was going a little further up the tree.
mircea_popescu: so i should pay 1500 in new capital outlay to produce replacements for... roadkill ?!
mircea_popescu: yes, sure. if i was selling a rifle, and it had a wooden reciever, would you buy it ?
mircea_popescu: so if i'm going to make like... three ? receivers, why buy this cuisinart for 1500 when i could just buy 3 guns and a six ounce bag from tyrone ?
mircea_popescu: some people prefer to pay, what can i tell ye.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-17 19:58 asciilifeform: 'Mr Vancel said the men were shooting at each other before the officers arrived. "This was not a 'come at police' situation they weren't targeting the police at first - I don't assume so - because these were men out here shooting at each other in an empty parking lot until the police showed up and it turned into a gun battle," he added.' << lel
mircea_popescu: i was thinking, looks adequate and no more.
asciilifeform: it so happens that i was reading the docs for his mill machine just now, https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0206/7642/files/GG2_Manual.pdf?4483922796295118618
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-17#1504265 << i suspect by now the "3d printed gun" is moreover useful ; afaik work is underway to the typically ustarded pivot of "we're not forbidding weapons - only working ones ; you can still have 3d printed plastic shit! it'll be just as good as the real thing for what you do with it anyway, which is to say jack off". ☝︎
reydev: i doubt it
asciilifeform: i dun even own a chronoscope powerful enough to see this.
reydev: i doubt most of these social media sites will ever be profitable? except indeed for the ones issuing the shares
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seeing how it comes with 1 bitcent = 100mn dollars, i would expect EVERYONE.
asciilifeform: who, i wonder, would continue to write for qntra after this hypothetical crapocalypse ?
mircea_popescu: because i expect you should.
mircea_popescu: that's the revenue model of EVERYTHING else, why'd you go "i don't see the qntra revenue model" ? do you go around saying "i don't see the linkedin revenue model" ?
mircea_popescu: if qntra sells to... i dunno, who hasn't bought anything in a while, apple say ? for a perfectly market-reasonable hundred billion dollars, then a shareholder that bought however many shares for however many bitcents will receive however many hundreds of millions of dollars.
reydev: anyhow, i dont see the revenue model for qntra if there is any, is there something to read about it?
reydev: while i'm up, can i ask wrt qntra, is it meant to be non-profit? as in, is the idea that shareholders are like sponsors?
mircea_popescu: the only impact they'll have on anything is if i decide to use their skulls to remodel a wall. then they'll impact alright, and even temporarily color things.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 14:30 shinohai: I DM'd Stephan Tual on twitter to ask why he blocked me. Reply was that "you write fabricated information on The Dao and I believe you to be in league with mircea_popescu".
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1504604 << i lolled. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 13:23 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1504568 << the impalement is inescapable. i simply object to the notion of sparing the hardware they built - it is every bit as insidiously and infectiously idiotic as all of their software creations.
thestringpuller: I also just realized Steem copied Qntra's model. Have BTC investors, pay for content creators to create content.
thestringpuller: i think only LTC has some liquidity on the bid side...
mircea_popescu: (i only bother with the reference because it's a very convenient example of many thousands extant that "nobody knows about".)
thestringpuller: Slock.it adding more problems to the p2p market. I asked someone once, "What keeps people from just stealing your bike once the slock is unlocked?" "Uh I dunno. We never got that far."
mircea_popescu: i can't quote the item for lacking a title ; romanian copies are curated and collected by ioan ursu as "historia turchesca 1300-1514), editura academiei romane, 1910 - where it's found at page 91 and urm.
mircea_popescu: i fuora della terra, il quale si teneva, et era fornito, ma perche le vettovarie erano venute a manco, non si stette a perder tempo, et ritornato il campo per un'altra via, venissemo ad un forte castello, posto in monte, nel quale si trovava esser li prigioni del Turco, che furono presi l'anno avanti supra inverno, quando fu rotto Soliman Bassa, et fatta esperienza de haver detta fortezza, vi furono piantate sette bocche di b
shinohai: I DM'd Stephan Tual on twitter to ask why he blocked me. Reply was that "you write fabricated information on The Dao and I believe you to be in league with mircea_popescu". ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 17:49 asciilifeform: btw when i went down into the snakepit with several dozen renowned 'cryptographers' earlier this year, i asked a few folks about this.
asciilifeform: chronicled, i think, in the l0gz, somewhere
asciilifeform: jurov: i ended up in a delegation to an even lamer darpa thing, at one point, it was lysenko-level crapolade
asciilifeform: jurov: know that, if i had not escaped from rupturefarms, i would be sent there.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 13:05 Framedragger: ...but yeah. the last para is a kind of foreshadowing i imagine, skeleton of a giant and all. such a strong image, incl of what's to come for them...
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 11:31 mircea_popescu: i don't agree with his illuministic/humanitarian blaming of the hardware, i believe we can't have computers until and unless impaling every single derp currently involved in computing in any capacity, but this looks like a dispute for the ages.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1504568 << the impalement is inescapable. i simply object to the notion of sparing the hardware they built - it is every bit as insidiously and infectiously idiotic as all of their software creations. ☝︎☟︎
Framedragger: ...but yeah. the last para is a kind of foreshadowing i imagine, skeleton of a giant and all. such a strong image, incl of what's to come for them... ☟︎
Framedragger: (i mean, what with translation and everything)
Framedragger: damn mircea_popescu, your wordspersec rate is good. (and i'm yet to read the siege story!)
shinohai: I fully expect every scamcoin I write about to vaporize in an amazing flash of bright white light someday.
mircea_popescu: i dunno wtf is with them.
mircea_popescu: i don't agree with his illuministic/humanitarian blaming of the hardware, i believe we can't have computers until and unless impaling every single derp currently involved in computing in any capacity, but this looks like a dispute for the ages. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: consider the practical, smaller example of blog software. you ... can;t use it ; i can.
mircea_popescu: from the other direction : while i wouldn't throw away better machines if someone offered some - nobody does.
asciilifeform: i call this notion 'correct C fallacy'. as in, 'if yer hands dun grow from yer arse, you can write Correct C!!'
mircea_popescu: not necessarily because i'm proposing "data" ie, "here's a meaningless, unstructured pile" or "gotta do your sorting in software because we're too busy doing three level caching and besides, not like sorting is a solved problem" are workable technological choices.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-17#1504226 << you know for the record i'm altogether unclear on this point. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-17 17:03 Framedragger: (well to be true, 'throw away openssl' has been seriously contemplated by any a folk recently, i would wager a guess. but perhaps much less so with the latter, sure.)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-17#1504212 << perversely, what has been contemplated was not throwing it out but "what if i made one myself!" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: first i read that as "prophylaxia"
asciilifeform: (it was very obviously epitaph, but i had nfi whose)
mircea_popescu: "in a dumnezeirei carte e scris ca omul se desparte de tot ce-i e mai drag pe lume, dar sfinta carte spune-anume ca despartirea nu-i pe vecie, ca revedere-o sa mai fie. nu-ti spun adio, la revedere! la revedere-n alte sfere!"
asciilifeform whistles the impalement theme from 'ogniem i mieczem'... ☟︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu re: http://trilema.com/2016/sobieski-si-romanii , didja ever see mega-film 'ogniem i mieczem' ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: what can i tell you :)
asciilifeform: hey i read the 'p' that was actually there, lel
mircea_popescu: i dunno, maybe it's opaque without a lot of other bits not directly obvious to me ; but until i hear better i'll continue to believe it directly works.
Framedragger: (i've read afterwards but honestly it's still shit)
Framedragger: i know to some extent but not well enough, and i'd need to find credible sources (what we've been fed in high school re this is no good, teh lithuanian perspective etc etc)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: this, incidentally and admittedly, is probably why i'm reading logz and half-lurking and all that, to be honest with you
mircea_popescu: Framedragger aha, yeah. more than that : "this is coming from my wot IF YOU ARE IN IT. maybe i'm lying to you, fucker."
mircea_popescu: my evaluation of it was "rewrite" rather than "import" fwiw. but unlike tor, i have no beef with it as of yet.
Framedragger: well, i'll want near-instant-something anyway. perhaps i'm spoiled by teh culture around me (not facebook etc, but more like, well, irc)
mircea_popescu: otr* i mean.
mircea_popescu: i think we broached this before ; anyway - perfect forward secrecy is not a trivial matter.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: sure, i see your point regarding implicit assumptions in "instant messaging" etc.; but on a technical point, they allow for pfs through 'session secrets' without having a bunch of pre-computed keys (unknown status of distaste @ these terms here)
a111: Logged on 2016-07-17 16:51 Framedragger: difficult to organize coups without the 'I'. the (shitty shitty) turkey coup used whatsapp incidentally
a111: Logged on 2016-07-17 16:50 asciilifeform: Framedragger: pgp. drop the 'I'.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-17#1504161 << reading the line above, i was going to ask, "can you explain the case for secure + instant" ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 18:53 asciilifeform: kinda how i boot up that cute x86 systemv and then notice that it is PALPABLY slow on modern pentium because it lacks ANY disk cache etc.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: good point, i should know better
Framedragger: ..and yet allegedly smart cs d00dz want to speak to me about anonymous publishing on the internets (yes i know, quite oxymoronic) with these little shits in their pockets
mircea_popescu: nobody burns them down, so i suppose there's lots of space for ridiculous on the street.