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asciilifeform: but 'I HAZ MILLION COMMITZ!121111'
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1506567 << i've been going through that exercise with code recently, where the original developer abandoned the project and there's a new maintainer. the exercise is to see how much of it is gendered pronouns. not surprisingly in many cases for every 1 bug fixed, there's a dozen entirely inconsequential commits. file shuffles, renames, code removals, README copyright updates, that sort of stuff. it's like nobody's ☝︎
deedbot: [Trilema] Were I... - http://trilema.com/2016/were-i/
mircea_popescu: damn, i thought it was the black knight always triumphs.
thestringpuller: phf: "i'm not dead yet" << "i'm still alive"?
mircea_popescu: wait, ~I~ should clean up ? what am i, someone's wife ?
asciilifeform: i suppose we can add it to the very very long list of items which are supposedly 'dead' but continue to live, spraying out ecological poison left and right that will take eons to clean up
phf: "i'm not dead yet"
asciilifeform: i dun get it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh what do i care what they do. the idea here is "o look, a scamcoin nobody holds managed to hardfork. this is about as relevant to bitcoin as guy soiling his pants and then washing them in the sink. I AM ROVER GER AND I THINK ITS TIME FOR BITCOIN TO! "
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i used to read amanda b johnson. But she is more for the children I think.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: Reading involves comprehension. I merely glance over it for lulz. I invest more focus on reading my comic books than Ver.
asciilifeform: because i sure as fuck ain't going ~looking~ for it
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i don't like posting reddit links as not to infect the channel
asciilifeform: but i would like to read the essay first
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: please don't assume that folks read reddit unprompted. i don't
mircea_popescu: i won't bother then.
asciilifeform: i would love to see result !
mircea_popescu: for the sake of why not, i will.
mircea_popescu: scandalous, i know.
mircea_popescu: all the machining i ever had done was presented in essay form.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i found, what, six? seven ?
mircea_popescu: i do not want them. nobody does.
asciilifeform: (though many do, i have)
mircea_popescu: and if you don't, i'm not underwriting the eventual wreck.
mircea_popescu: most all of them reached for the paper, which i wouldn't give back.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i used to pick architects by the criterion : "nice plan, now tell it to me".
mircea_popescu: and i knew i failed within minutes specifiucally because not using the fucking pictures.
mircea_popescu: i find that especially in organic chemistry the drawings are counterproductive.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, ::oc/C-C-C*-C-C-C=/ ?
asciilifeform: how do i benzol ring ?
mircea_popescu: i'm even amenable to saying ::oc/C-COH-C:: ☟︎
mircea_popescu: just as long as i can use it, i'm happy.
asciilifeform: textbooks, i shit thee not, had to be junked
mircea_popescu: i have no problem with the author replacing iupac.
asciilifeform: see, if i can't ~paste~ the equation from the viewer into my algebratron, and evaluate it, the system is broken.
mircea_popescu: which i arbitrarily call tex.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile : i want a tag to turn numbers into images ; which i arbitrarily call svg ; and i want a tag to turn strings into scientific notation (which does not JUST mean math, i want chemistry also.)
asciilifeform: lel who said i wanted buttons ?
mircea_popescu: so i guess you can have a fat 8 lines of buttons in the mp-wp thing ; and i'll continue to type tags in directly.
asciilifeform: what i do have a problem with is 'stop using integral signs, spell it out'
asciilifeform: at any rate i have 0 problem with this.
asciilifeform: the only proggy i've ever encountered which did. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i can say. and, if it isn't likely to be in the reader's huffman dictionary already - do say.
mircea_popescu: the criteria is any notation i choose, not any notation you choose.
asciilifeform: which means, yes, integral signs, matrices, tensors, whatever notation i define ~for the occasion~ even.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fits-in-head means that i get to huffmanize TO THE MAX
mircea_popescu: i have no idea what your parents did to you people, but this is unseemly. first fucking task of the urchin in an intellectual household is to learn how to put his shit in words.
asciilifeform: i sorta wonder how mircea_popescu draws the line at 'this much notation is enough.' i.e., why he does not demand that phuctor stats be spelled out in whole words rather than using arabic digits.
mircea_popescu: and ftr, auto-repl is for the dogs. i want proper repl : string evaluated when I say, either by clicking the preview button or typing enter or w/e.
mircea_popescu: and i absolutely do not have alf's mental issue where i can't think of math in words.
mircea_popescu: i have no problem with typing ::sum:: either or w/e
mircea_popescu: i want to have alphabetic notation. such as : graph-this-so-and-so,1,1,4,this.csv
mircea_popescu: i don't want any guy at all. even now i <em> by hand rather than clicking the fucking buttons
asciilifeform: i thought the idea was 'sane gui'
mircea_popescu: also, the idea isn't to "realtime" ; the idea is to take user input and spit out html i think
mircea_popescu: i'd think the 2nd item is more relevant here/
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 13:42 mircea_popescu: anyway, google also has some sort of api where you GET it data and it sends back a graph. i recall bitbet using it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, google also has some sort of api where you GET it data and it sends back a graph. i recall bitbet using it. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 12:23 mircea_popescu: every computer (well, except for windows and apple i guess ? but they're not computers) has a repl built in as some sort of bash. in most cases you also have both perl and python out of the box. how could it possibly be faster to first upload a chunk of data to some webserver somewhere ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-20#1506889 << he wanted a repl that can shit graphics. which is something that to this very day is ~monopoly of a gargantuan closed commercial item, 'mathematica'. except that most 'i want a graphical repl' folks don't know this, and think that their imitations (which are roughly what glbse was to mpex) are the real thing. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 10:53 Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1505364 << okay; but deciding not to use $tool because it's used by $enemy bloody well sounds like one to me. sure, you can call this a set of (very) useful heuristics. but if this sophistry is accepted, then any ideology is a set of heuristics (usually but not always very bad ones, but the latter is a separate point). ftr though, i'm not saying that sometimes there aren't goo
mircea_popescu: every computer (well, except for windows and apple i guess ? but they're not computers) has a repl built in as some sort of bash. in most cases you also have both perl and python out of the box. how could it possibly be faster to first upload a chunk of data to some webserver somewhere ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i dun get it, do you have to first upload your data ?
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1505364 << okay; but deciding not to use $tool because it's used by $enemy bloody well sounds like one to me. sure, you can call this a set of (very) useful heuristics. but if this sophistry is accepted, then any ideology is a set of heuristics (usually but not always very bad ones, but the latter is a separate point). ftr though, i'm not saying that sometimes there aren't good reasons for avoiding somet ☝︎☟︎
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1506544 << i've a $10 vps, no complaints, i did the initial ipv4 probing off of that. didn't run any i/o etc benchmarks tho. any particular questions (i can run some benchmark if you want) ☝︎☟︎
Framedragger: but i'm not trying to be a big advocate of $x here, mind
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 23:39 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1506153 << what's the advantage i dun get it ?
ben_vulpes: i recall this, had my own near identical experience lol
asciilifeform: i tried, failed, had to ask for whole thing to be thermonuked and reformatted.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 00:16 pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: cpanel is useful for lazy idjits like me to ban ips, make back-ups, check traffic figs, and so on and so forth. it might not be lynx-friendly but i'm also unpersuaded that it's 'evil that must burn tonight'.
mircea_popescu: i suppose look into how the data is defined and collected one day when run out of other online entertainment.
mats: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lLqHi2f7Ti8/V4bBCyl-P_I/AAAAAAAAoLk/juwG59mwZ10mIyHd_OBOhLwQVBt44VkPwCLcB/s1600/EmployRecessionJun2016.PNG interesting
asciilifeform: (i have not recently checked.)
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 00:34 asciilifeform: i will note that usg ~is~ sufficiently frightened of toy flying machines, that they were entirely banned in washington d.c.
mats: don't remember if i mentioned this, but a friend of mine that works at cisco says their calea team is expanding the scope of their work beyond what's in the letter of the law
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-20#1506653 << well, he didn't live in israel, i guess. anyway, mats has it, mortar is by far the cheapest. ☝︎
mats: just one of 1,000 dummies i've met from the valley
mats: i get the sense that he was really just out to make money, to sucker an engineer into slaving for him
mats: i really gotta stop deleting my pm archives
asciilifeform: if i were his handler, and read, as i would read, the log, i would have sacked him.
asciilifeform: the thing that i found shocking was... the sheer ham-fistedness.
mats: haven't seen the nick in a few years, i tried my hand at bringing folks into the fold, didn't work out
mats: random guy in a chan i idle in
asciilifeform: i do wonder where you found him.
mats: oh, i apologize for bringing him in here then
mats: not sure i agree. there's a massacre every day of the year now
asciilifeform: or do i have him mixed with another
asciilifeform: (though i have fundamentally nfi who is ACTUALLY kept there, for all i know it is folks who used pgp key that had too many bitz)
asciilifeform: last i heard gitmo was a warehouse for inconvenient pow, rather than domestic whatevers.
mats: i'm specifically referring to folks interned at gitmo
asciilifeform: mats: i know of at least 1, he was traded recently, name escapes me
mats: i dunno whats with you and arbitrarily removing agency from wutevers in discussion
mats: well i'm much enjoying going through the mental exercise of attacking a convoy
mats: i wonder if usg limos have v-hull
asciilifeform: i will note that usg ~is~ sufficiently frightened of toy flying machines, that they were entirely banned in washington d.c. ☟︎
mats: i don't remember the name of the system, but i think there is integration between 'paladin' arty and 'boomerang'
asciilifeform: worse than i thought, even.
mats: fwiw, i hear the boomerang is shit in the field
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: cpanel is useful for lazy idjits like me to ban ips, make back-ups, check traffic figs, and so on and so forth. it might not be lynx-friendly but i'm also unpersuaded that it's 'evil that must burn tonight'. ☟︎