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asciilifeform: trinque: you don't want otp to touch a pc.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i have a little bit of custom hardware for making this bearable, but this 'parachute' is not yet deployed in the field.
mircea_popescu: even 1 out of 1k is a high enough bar for most people.
mircea_popescu: in a contest between man and rat i'll bet on rat.
mircea_popescu: which is a loud testament of their idiocy - much harder to do BOTH world AND AI at the same time.
asciilifeform: it is instructive, to a kid
mircea_popescu: note that it's a very performant simulation. just like irl - "shit" is not "objectively" low value. you could, conceivably (60% shrimp world by mass) arrive in a situation where shit is in high demand ; meat not so much.
asciilifeform: and there, evidently, even must be folk who can do nothing but to take a shit.
mircea_popescu: no ; it's a volume-vs-quality issue. sometimes i just need a lot of cruddy flotsam for a job ; it's wasteful to use hand carved 1700 bedposts for it, so to speak.
mircea_popescu: see asciilifeform if i dig up a flotsam claim, i get flotsam quality 250ish. when they do it, quality 9.
asciilifeform: of what use is brute labour in a sim world ?
mircea_popescu: dude who wants benchmark and doesn't have own benchmark is a strange construction.
asciilifeform: asker presumably wanted a crib sheet. i.e. benchmark.
asciilifeform: 'FEMLISP is a Common Lisp framework for solving partial differential equations with the help of the finite element method (FEM).'
shinohai: Yeah tardstalk is a strange place, at least 5 PM's already calling this a scam before the Turkish guy showed up, so now blockchain proofs.
phf: #lisp? it has pockets of activity, but there's a decent level of signal inforcement
shinohai: Nah it's in the same place, just finally got some attention, I went back and bumped it a few times.
asciilifeform: 'It is well-known in the cryptographic community that a short block size makes a block cipher vulnerable to birthday attacks, even if the are no cryptographic attacks against the block cipher itself. We observe that such attacks have now become practical for the common usage of 64-bit block ciphers in popular protocols like TLS and OpenVPN. Still, such ciphers are widely enabled on the Internet. Blowfish is currently the default ciph
asciilifeform: trinque: more importantly, a precise description of why 'i stored x, y, z, and binary is now B ~BECAUSE~...' would be book-length.
mircea_popescu: ie, elliot rodger a lot more common than previously thought.
asciilifeform: 'keychains' are a work of evil.
asciilifeform: (a sane pgptron would operate ONLY on what state is given on the command line !)
phf: i had some mild success with a script around gpg where on each run it would create a db in tmp/, import all keys from ~/wot ~/systemkeys ~/randomkeys etc., then run the op against that tmp db, and finally remove the db
asciilifeform is a reformed ex-gpg2 user, and had no conversion work to do when moved
asciilifeform: 'For end users, the switch to the new branch will likely only be noticeable in a few situations—and perhaps only if one is looking carefully. For instance, the gpg-agent process will prompt the user for the passphrase to unlock a key, rather than the gpg process, but the workflow itself will not be altered otherwise. Users who have existing keyrings on their machines will have those keyrings automatically updated to the new storage
asciilifeform: 'Debian to shift to a modern GnuPG'
mircea_popescu: it's not a bad novel. stendhal's rouge&noir is also. there's more. and the east has its own.
mircea_popescu: (ie, "should i get out of here, i'll monk a few people myself!")
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: would you say 'name of the rose' is a reasonable portrait of 'who monks' ?
mircea_popescu: but i'll give you a sole example :
asciilifeform: historically i have a reasonably detailed picture.
asciilifeform has intel gap wide enough to drive a train into, re who becomes monk ~today~
mircea_popescu: it's altogether not clear, for a very basic instance, that "voluntary" is contemplated to mean anything other than "i didn't give my permission for this".
mircea_popescu: (which, incidentally, is a major cornerstone of all religious faith. which is why it's important that jesus "also man")
mircea_popescu: in this sense, mp is also a man, and he has women.
asciilifeform: 'leprosy' is also a symbol, and has a meaning.
mircea_popescu: but if i start walking around the beatitudes a l'abbe de notre dame de courants d'air, i'll let you know.
mircea_popescu: it is not clear this symbol has a meaning.
asciilifeform: but there is a great deal of similarity between ~all 40+ y.o. male virgins
mircea_popescu: which is a ridiculous thing for a mixed blood burgher from the colonies to even aspire to, let alone pretend to.
asciilifeform: the rodgers, having been taught rudimentary literacy, left sufficient record to establish themselves as a meaningful equivalence class
mircea_popescu: "this is a nail" "this is what i deem a nail"
asciilifeform: it is, (and i think the correct engl. criminalistic term) 'a domestic'.
asciilifeform: but 'grandfather' scenario is not a postal.
diana_coman: true that; my thought there was informed by the fact that a 2 years old can be happily kept occupied with perfectly-adequate stuff IF someone points them to it; on the other hand if left on their own, they will ~always find a destructive thing to do ☟︎
asciilifeform: at no point will any Official organ suggest that problem is 'packing chickens 5 to a cage', rather than the beak/cleaver.
asciilifeform: (recently a mega-hero nailed a room full with one)
asciilifeform: which is why the butthurt after a postal is inevitably about the pistol, or whatever ~beak~ the apoptoting chicken happened to use.
a111: Logged on 2015-09-19 02:42 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278941 << this is the EXACT same basic thing as debeaking (ask a poultry farmer)
asciilifeform: 'running amock' is a thing even among rats packet into a box.
asciilifeform: when a postalist buys his kalash and begins to happily whistle as he cleans it every morning and thinks of how he will cull the diseases mass, he need not be consciously aware of why, but his behaviour is as healthy and necessary, civilizationally, as a nursing mother's.
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: I must admit. Your Twitter polls actually make a person think before answering...
asciilifeform: when he understands (and , no - i did not have a debugger attached to his head, can only infer from the manifesto, that he ~understood~) that 'it is time'
diana_coman: that actually reinforces the point that by these standards a 2 year old who shoots someone (he found a new toy, pulled the trigger to see what) has equally woken up: chances are that they shoot dictionary speech people if that is the norm for people
asciilifeform: neal stephenson, in 'anathem', had a correct picture of cultural devolution into pictograms.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the 'dictionary speech' thing is 'normal' in usa. have you been here in the past decade or two ? visit some time. pick up a newspaper, or turn on a television set. talk to a stranger on the train.
mircea_popescu: "behold, all engines have a cracked cylinder : they all sound ; and the diagnosis of the cracked cylinder was made by sound".
asciilifeform: diana_coman: from the article, it does not appear that the man picked up pistol and fired as a nonvolitional act of hindbrain
diana_coman: I would however put forward the fact that a 2 year old is perfectly capable of shooting someone with a pistol
asciilifeform: rodger was a rare example of a sleeper ~waking up~.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he is a notably broken example of the human race.
asciilifeform: he was a rare ~cured~ american.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i disagree that rodger is a notably broken example of an american.
mircea_popescu: well that's pretty big a deal.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well yes, because you're politically engaged. i'm sure the nazi "victims" of special forward batallion inspired a lot more revulsion in liberated population than the perpetrators.
asciilifeform: the latter grows a 'soul', or at least ~agency~, when he finally cocks the pistol.
mircea_popescu: you don't just GET a dalmatian one day
asciilifeform: in just about every description of a postal in my living memory, the victims inspire considerably more revulsion in my mind than the perpetrator.
mircea_popescu: hey, nobody disputes that "human life is supreme value" is a recipe for utter disaster of the foulest, worst smellijng kind.
asciilifeform: the pathological nonlethality of modern life is a serious liability.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-24 14:26 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: being run over by a 2-horse carriage at age 7 would have helped.
asciilifeform: but note, i did not say he ought to have been in the trench 'to turn into a Real Man'
mircea_popescu: well... not really like a t cell
asciilifeform: a postalist is as healthy, a necessary, thing, as a t-cell.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i don't buy nero-the-historical-character either ; but my point is that the description of him from ancient sources hostile is mendacious in a certain way, which certain way supports my view in that it makes it plain the ancients were aware of the type.
asciilifeform: it is my considered view that postalist is cow who ~grows~ a soul, in adulthood. and understands that there is precisely one useful thing left for him to do.
mircea_popescu: also not a need ; but it serves my stand better the larger diversity there is in the examples.
mircea_popescu: because literacy is a rare flower.
mircea_popescu: i also seem to recall a dude that burned some building in athens.
mircea_popescu: i seem to recall a dude who set rome on fire.
mircea_popescu: even this seems a tall order.
diana_coman: the way I read asciilifeform's point of bringing culture in was that it's culture responsible for the outcome of there being a broken kid; not for the fact he was broken, not for the fact he existed in the first place; simply and strictly for he's specific end
mircea_popescu: but as it is, it's just a shorted clock bus. chip looks exactly like any other, everywhere, except it won't even remotely boot.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, if the "brain scan" approach were science, this kid would look so deeply evident on a scan...
diana_coman: he was broken to start with (or in a more charitable view one might be inclined maybe to think that some actual interaction when he was tiny etc - but that is a matter of hope rather than anything else)
mircea_popescu: and so he serves us in the sense a "stray torpedo" helps the navy that launched it if it happens to hit "something" that "wasn't supposed to be there"
diana_coman: you mean you think that's a biological impossibility for some reason? as otherwise it's still basically a broken culture thing at most and so what asciilifeform said, but not exactly "nothing anyone did or didn't do"
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I did NOT say to teach him anything; precisely my point: nothing to do to make him something else than he was (or rather: wasn't); what I meant by plenty to do starts with NOT pretending he is a fine child like all the rest, let's get him to college, give him a car etc
mircea_popescu: shinohai to continue the discussion : yes, a little less cursed he'd have made a great pedo ; and a little less cursed than that even, he'd have made a great homosexual.
shinohai: Looks like a face that would have made a great career transexual though.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman kid is lacking the hardware. you can make a seeing child learn to read ; you can fit glasses to a "retarded" kid that's just myopic and let them catch up to their normal level. you can not teach reading to child born withou eyes.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the 'could have been done' phrasing is symptomatic of the cultural illness that leads to postals being a ~necessary~ thing in the first place.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: being run over by a 2-horse carriage at age 7 would have helped. ☟︎
diana_coman: asciilifeform, but keeping them alive is one thing, at the end of the day I can keep whatever I want alive in a jar on my windowsill
asciilifeform: my one criticism of 'postalists' is that they violate a cardinal rule of mircea_popescutronics: 'don't administer the beating in a way that leaves the punished believing in possibility of recourse.'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, diana_coman : ask anyone who grew up as usaschwitz inmate. the culture is broken in ways that make dr mengele look like a harmless eccentric. they see it as a VIRTUE to keep broken people, esp. children, alive.
mircea_popescu: he'd have made a primo pedophile.
mircea_popescu: see, if this guy was ever so slightly less broken, he'd have survived a coupla years more with a cloak of semblance of normalcy covering him ; and consequently acquired both a love of 12yo girls and the deep cowardice that's universally the mark of hte pedo.
mircea_popescu: characteristically, it shares a lot with traditional doctrine re females ("utterly dumb in the sense of actually devoid of a soul / humanity spark") ; apud classical greeks.
diana_coman: for some reason the whole thing did trigger one old memory of a classmate in the 4th grade who shouted through tears: WHY do they all go to congratulate you for winning instead of consoling me for losing; having also observed quite a lot of small children recently, I would be inclined to think this guy was just stuck somewhere around a *very* little age and that is that