asciilifeform: i dun have smoothscrolling on my boxen, ben_vulpes

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i must not have seen that one

asciilifeform: 'heighten the contradictions', 'widen the cracks', etc, bring nearer the ovens.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i read that thing the other day, thought 'genius trollage'

asciilifeform: dun look like we got one here aha

asciilifeform: !#s bamb0u

asciilifeform: didja have the woman write this post, pete_dushenski , or wat ☟︎

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: 'As time marches on and you start to earn more income and you buy a few more t-shirts, a single polo shirt, new jeans, and some Nike runners – but it’s never quite enough. The fashions are changing too quickly and what you wore before soon looks dated and passe..' << dafuq

asciilifeform: but often is voluntary-mandatory ritual

asciilifeform: doesn't directly pay, no

asciilifeform no longer on any committee, for looong time nao

asciilifeform: though i can think of slightly cleaner ways to earn bread

asciilifeform: for money, presumably

asciilifeform listens for the sound of atlases shrugging

asciilifeform: ( often you can desolder and replace, but 1) good luck sourcing the exact part 2) you'll never get the legs back on properly )

asciilifeform: clicker is good for couplea yrs, typically

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1659503 << sad thing is, mice weren't built to last ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1659496 << with no wacom?! ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1659494 << the thing with the detentless wheel ?! ☝︎

asciilifeform: what's better in cr ? rubbish disposal?

asciilifeform: which services would these be ? maybe we oughta compare mircea_popescu's part/join ticker vs his time in ar

asciilifeform: as for the cr photos -- i gotta admit, buenos aires looked like a civilized city, esp in contrast. whereas cr looks moar like what asciilifeform imagined 'banana republic' when reading as a child.

asciilifeform: as folx unzipped & pissed, asciilifeform immediately thought 'perhaps THIS is the mythical Cheap Real Estate'

asciilifeform: cement thing full of rubbish that we ran into on a walk

asciilifeform: the one with the piss

asciilifeform: i'd rather buy that dump in timis

asciilifeform: mas tamaño, mas sabor !!11 (tm)(r)(subj)

asciilifeform: 'because if it were less, rabid asciilifeforms could show up and buy'em and THEN wat do'

asciilifeform: at least.

asciilifeform: i bet that hovel is listed for 100kbux

asciilifeform: lol!

asciilifeform: srsly, nobody ?

asciilifeform is haunted by the notion that constant-time karatsuba gotta exist SOMEWHERE

asciilifeform: now where do i buy a pocket mircea_popescu !1111

asciilifeform: lolk

asciilifeform: circular. you gotta define what ~is~ an error

asciilifeform: iirc that was euler's argument aha

asciilifeform: [insert massive, week-long mathewank here]

asciilifeform: ooh can we do axiom of choice next!1111

asciilifeform: because that's the standard for distinguishing an axiom from an arbitrary notational.

asciilifeform: gimme a propagating eggog, a la div0 or 4 := 5 , that results from 0**0=1.

asciilifeform: better phrasing would be -- it wouldn't win anybody anything

asciilifeform: ( summary : 0**0 != 1 would make expansion of taylor series a bitch ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: as for euler's convention, see also https://archive.is/QmXbi

asciilifeform: *propagate

asciilifeform: but one that doesn't propagage (unlike div0) so nobody signals it.

asciilifeform: it's a eggog

asciilifeform: or now you have this weird special turd case for no reason.

asciilifeform: so you gotta have x ^ 0 = 1

asciilifeform: x ^ 2 / x ^ 1 = x ^ 1 ; x ^ n / x ^ m = x ^ (n - m)

asciilifeform: x ^ 1 / x ^ 1 = 1

asciilifeform: say, x/x . elementarily, 1

asciilifeform: as for n ^ 0, this is not mega-mystery :

asciilifeform: the other thing is that key gen that takes a year, instead of 10yrs, is still not useful.

asciilifeform: thinkaboutit.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1659351 << gotta realize, you need a 8192b register to do 4096 (e.g., mircea_popescu's familiar mod) key. ☝︎

asciilifeform: but the continued (not so seekrit) existence of, e.g., american biowar programme, suggests that the 'old flame' has not yet entirely gone out.

asciilifeform: 'unsexy', slow, 'boring' methods, e.g. mcdonaldization ☟︎

asciilifeform: so they switched to 'slow poison'

asciilifeform: early on (1960s) when su got nuke parity, it was decided that the nuke pathway probably won't work

asciilifeform: so that usg and its catamites could have their 1,001-year-reich

asciilifeform: there is, however, a logical (if you will) component . there's a school of thought among lizards - normally ted turner is the name that comes up, but only because he afaik was the only unabashed, publicly confessed adherent -- that it'd be nice, from lizard pov, to physically exterminate the (actual) free world ☟︎

asciilifeform: lives in the 'twilight' between the engineered artifact and the religious 'pyramid'.

asciilifeform: exactly like a missile shield.

asciilifeform: so long as advertised later to have been 'repaired and good as new and with further climatechangeproofing' slathered on top.

asciilifeform: so it dun matter, to ~anyone in particular, if it floods, burns down, or gets rm -rf /'d by martians.

asciilifeform: at any rate i can scarcely picture what the advertised vault could be other than a targeting decoy.

asciilifeform: (observe, many folx , worldwide, already store seeds . but those don't make headlines , nor collect $billions in grantola from 'international komyoonity')

asciilifeform: not from mutation.

asciilifeform: but the point of the vault is to keep'em far from some folx, vs others

asciilifeform: they'll store.

asciilifeform: last i saw, nobody had an especially long fragment of mammonth genome. despite refrigeration !

asciilifeform: ( if this were not so, 'unextincting' the creatures of the past, would be trivial )

asciilifeform: dna rots 'in situ', while not being copied, just as in the usual process. ☟︎

asciilifeform: where you can also keep seeds.

asciilifeform: well the implicit comparison is to refrigerator on the continent

asciilifeform: see yesterday's thread.

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: rather than external 'cosmic ray' etc

asciilifeform: they happen mostly from decay of organism's own K-40.

asciilifeform: mutations will happen at ~same rate in the vault.

asciilifeform: for lizards.

asciilifeform: it's to be seen as ~exactly like the lavish nuke-shelters (complete with underground casino and whorehouse) americans like to build.

asciilifeform: only monsantotronic ones ( and even these, somewhat of a stretch )

asciilifeform: there are no ~natural~ disasters where the 'seed vault' thing would turn out to be an asset.

asciilifeform: thing's as legit a military target, imho , as it gets.

asciilifeform: trinque: and anyone who 'seed vault mega-fortress in antarctica'

asciilifeform: not linking.

asciilifeform: terrible habit, this

asciilifeform: btw so far all i know is inference from ben_vulpes's headline. wouldja link to the original, ben_vulpes , plox ??

asciilifeform: 'maybe we can make seeds scarce one day, by fucking with weather' 'and guess what, only source of new ones will be usg!'

asciilifeform: the sheer megalomania of 'seed vault' was breathtaking, even compared to, say, u.s. nuke network

asciilifeform: ( see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1658504 thread. ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: failure-is-success, moar-studies-needed, etc

asciilifeform: just like them cyclotrons

asciilifeform: build new!!11

asciilifeform: hey, it ain't a disaster, it's practically a cheque for 4x the grantolade

asciilifeform: that's what constant-time means.

asciilifeform: every single subcomponent has to run at ~worst case~ complexity at all times. i.e. 0**0 takes same time as (2**8192)**(2**8192).

asciilifeform: i know what the retarded solutions look like, at this point ALL of the published ones, i'd bet, i've read. if i wanted to perpetrate the same retardation, i'd simply use one of'em.