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mircea_popescu: then again, i suppose there's no need for no goethe.
mircea_popescu: i've been kinda waiting for the proper greek drama of "hitler as the executor of his own demise through countering his allies' enmity as best he can"
asciilifeform: (for all i know, still does)
asciilifeform: specifically, if aristocratic degeneracy varies in any fundamental way across europe, i do not know it.
mircea_popescu: sure. but the ineptitude of the junker class is well documented ; and i daresay well understood.
asciilifeform: i still do not consider myself qualified to opine re why germany got eaten.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how comfortable the junkers were.
asciilifeform: this blew me away when i first found out - derps are STILL running on the fumes of the great german rocket of ~1900
asciilifeform: thus far i don't even know if mircea_popescu's concept is absolute ('must afford dirigible') or simply 'stay out of bottom 10% of social pyramid' or what.
asciilifeform: i.e. some useful concept of 'what is poverty' derived from shared priors.
mircea_popescu: "what kind of house can i build if you and your wife aren't seated on a couch watching tv as we build the walls around you!!!1"
mircea_popescu: i said "a specific definition is not required for the discussion", you opted to stuff some nonsense into that.
asciilifeform: next i suppose we can debate how many nm wavelength begins colour 'red'.
asciilifeform: well what am i to do with 'this is a subjective perception'
asciilifeform: so since noses un unscrew, and i cannot trade with mircea_popescu for each other to see what stinks to the other, the train typically stops there.
mircea_popescu: (the agreement i inferred to have with phf as a result of that statement was "it's not even clear what sort of hyperexponential is involved, it grows so fast". we don't have any sort of upper bounds.)
asciilifeform: well i didn't proceed, because still unable to conceive a useful (and general) def of poverty.
mircea_popescu: i said "phf the problem becomes rapidly complex as the tasks involved go above "i would like my snatch to not stink"". this is a statement of the nature of, "geometry becomes rapidly longer as the number of possible dimensions goes above 1". you said "and i never for a moment disagreed with 'snatch stinks? yer poor & stupid'". this is a statement of the nature of "if you only describe one dimension, you suck at geometry". thi
asciilifeform: what am i missing.
mircea_popescu: in the context it was used, "i would like my snatch to not stink" made up the whole of the universe ; in the context you used it, it's part of a larger universe. this comparison is invalid.
asciilifeform: and i never for a moment disagreed with 'snatch stinks? yer poor & stupid'
mircea_popescu: phf the problem becomes rapidly complex as the tasks involved go above "i would like my snatch to not stink"
mircea_popescu: money's always there ; i guess there's no coins, bills, whatever.
mircea_popescu: i guess.
asciilifeform: also imho this thread can go somewhere useful still. in a ru (or i suspect any) prison cell, there are 'poverty' people, even if there is no money in the cell.
asciilifeform: (did the chinese actually call it 'mu' or was i lied to)
mircea_popescu: i'm not even convinced "summon nazi alien troops, massacre anyone" is solution.
mircea_popescu: there's pretty much nothing i can say about it, turns out.
asciilifeform: i dun expect mircea_popescu to calculate it.
asciilifeform: say i 'feel poor' until i can buy a working buenos aires, in what direction 'be less stupid' ?
mircea_popescu: i guess technically a string is an n-vector.
asciilifeform: there was some thread re 'driven by poverty' but i can't seen to unearth it
mircea_popescu: mno. if it ever makes sense to say "i am poor", in whatever context, for whatever reason, EVER ; it then therefore and for this reason as sole and sufficient it also makes sense to say "i am stupid".
asciilifeform: incidentally if mircea_popescu's picture of 'poverty' is encompassed by the hero of http://thewhet.net/2016/alcachofa-7515 then i have absolutely no counter against 'must also be stupid.'
asciilifeform: nah it is just that mircea_popescu poses a riddle where there is 'or your ox wanders off' and i dun have an ox, and have to spend quite a few cpu cycles mapping it onto what i actually do.
mircea_popescu: what's this, "i'll consider looking at how nonsensical my nonsense is if you bake in this other nonsense" ?
asciilifeform: i really love mircea_popescu's 'choose hole a or hole b', 'fork in the eye or once up the arse?' (ru prison riddle) tests.
mircea_popescu: why ? if "i'd love to chat you up but i gotta hurry back to work" applies, boy's poor, and girl either moves on or doesn't.
asciilifeform: i'm not even sure that mircea_popescu and i agree on a def of 'poverty'
mircea_popescu: i mean jizz.
asciilifeform: i dunno that i've ever lived ~outside~ of such a thing, mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: this, i think, is known to ~everyone at this point
asciilifeform: i'm speaking of cold cases.
asciilifeform: i mean, if you genuinely can't throw out 'expert witness' based on known physical process throwing an exception...
mircea_popescu: i didn't witness it per se, it was just "the talk fo the town" so to speak. at least among a certain set.
asciilifeform: what i meant was, on what legal ground could the woman's claim possibly be dismissed.
mircea_popescu: i'd expect more for 500k/year than those two schmucks.
mircea_popescu: in related lulz, while i was visiting mass at some point there was a huge todo because some woman had a child with a ~dead~ fortune owner. and the family was trying to exclude her.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, maybe she also carried to term ?
mircea_popescu: phf 6mn tho ? i mean... that nicole whatever chick, she did it for free!
phf: i'd pay those guys for simply making 60 year old's life a bit more interesting. i think old man is just walking out on a tab
asciilifeform: i still say 'if yer so smart why aintcha rich' is horseshit.
mircea_popescu: but i note you're not actually confronting the ridiculousness of your earlier conflation.
asciilifeform: i have deeply nfi re the rest.
mircea_popescu: "really... they did that ?" "oh, and then let's see, so the situation is x, i guess next they... burn the house down. ayup... they did."
mircea_popescu: you know, before the whole "terrorists" bullshit started, i used to enjoy reading police reports.
ben_vulpes: i think i have one sitting in the "library of machines to cannibalize when the future demands"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ever have crapple 'a1181' lappy? i just swapped out hv (lamp) cable on one, for 2nd time in 7 yrs, what a piece of rubbish
mircea_popescu: "A generation-defining movie in Italy, I Knew Her Well is that rare saga of the never-was, immersed, like its heroine, in daydreams, numb to its own heartbreak."
mircea_popescu: http://www.villagevoice.com/film/pietrangeli-s-restored-beauty-i-knew-her-well-lets-you-know-her-too-8225729
mircea_popescu: michael atkinson gets it ; and he knows his shit. clayton dillard has absolutely no fucking idea what's going on. i think he smokes towels or something.
shinohai: i was kinda unsure if I should place hard-earned dust into it
mats: i put a few coins down for a bet, sure hope the operator doesn't fly away
a111: I haven't seen onefixt
gribble: I have not seen onefixt.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller gotta love the "of course i'm outraged". somehow this made sense to him.
mircea_popescu: but yeah, the spot to be today would be... the guy telling people what to do at burning man or somesuch i guess.
mircea_popescu: and i guess it was what, rock band roadie in the 80s ? cocksucker blues et all ?
phf: man, that shotgun to the head is nasty. i wouldn't want confederate rabbit to get replaced by it
mats: also, "Other HSI investigators and I reviewed approximately 977 transactions involving "Caliconnect" on the Silk Road and determined that approximately 977 transactions involving "Caliconnect" on the Silk Road and determined that approximately 704 pounds of marijuana and approximately 10.5 grams of cocaine were sold to customers located throughout the United
shinohai: shit BingoBoingo i fergot to archive.is the sauce
danielpbarron: wish I bought a silkroad t-shirt on the original silkroad. prolly the one interesting thing for sale on the whole lot of them
danielpbarron: I was also curious how the darknet thing went
danielpbarron: I once went to the trouble of creating an account on either silkroad or one of the things that came after in order to buy twatter followers for an ex-friend of mine (he thought he was really good at social media, obsessed over follower/following ratio, yet only had 50 followers) -- he didn't ask for this; I thought it would be funny to freak him out. Anyway, stupid vendor I contacted via GPG-gram replies in plaintext that he can't
mircea_popescu: tho i wouldn't call 200-odd pound redditards girlies.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> kinda got nixed ; but if there's an artist in audience, mebbe i can get bb to reconsider. << Would also break Qntra's branding history. Perhaps if someone wanted to start an "Online Culture Magazine" it may have a place in the header of that as per http://trilema.com/the-boy-blog-network
danielpbarron: asciilifeform> who, i wonder, was the lucky dude << some guy caught in isis-land writing anti-isis graffiti
mircea_popescu: and i'd just as well like to have it well exposed and catalogued to bitchslap the gwern-ish wikipedia/lesswrong/niceonline beta bois and assorted imbeciles.
mats: "On June 3,2015 I learned that publicly available information indicated David BURCHARD, **** Duke Ct, Merced, California 95340, had registered or attempted to register and trademark the phrase "caliconnect." After obtaining this information, HSI Fresno investigators began to search Reddit and other publicly available websites for the username "caliconnect"
asciilifeform: who, i wonder, was the lucky dude
mircea_popescu: i kinda like the idea of that thing as an icon.
mircea_popescu: kinda got nixed ; but if there's an artist in audience, mebbe i can get bb to reconsider.
BingoBoingo: bits and pieces, but the gist I get is pseudo-mantadory middlemen break markets
asciilifeform: and i only even remembered this because it was my first encounter of this being described as a particular thing.
danielpbarron: http://i.imgur.com/e0WAb5G.jpg >> Shotgun to the face, slow motion.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. actually literate people? or wat )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-28#1076117 << canonical, i think, 'seals' thread. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i find linked item a bit of a puzzler, even sov-era electronics had screw seals, that were at least an honest try against quiet defloration, if not serious challenge
asciilifeform: i dun sit on every item of furniture, no...
mircea_popescu: men are creatures of habit, there's i'm told "de facto designated areas" anyway.
asciilifeform: in as far as dirigiblisms go, this is the mildest yet, i can throw down my shirt also and it will also get washed.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this sounds closer to parody than anything by now huh ? a well.
mircea_popescu: i literally throw my clothes around the house, yes.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is what folks have in mind that go livid just after muttering "privilege" with clenched fists.
mircea_popescu: very similarly to how i fully intend to jack off once. just as soon as i have occasion.
mircea_popescu: this wasn't a deliberate thing. it just never happened. i fully intend to do it once, if i have occasion.
mircea_popescu: it may surprise the esteemed audience to find that i have never ever done laundry, in any capacity. not as much as load a load into a machine.
mircea_popescu: sorry, i couldn't hear you over the moans. then there's what ?
mircea_popescu: i don't see at this point what exactly could happen to graham that'd be on the strength of his public record unwarranted.
mircea_popescu: the objection is methodological. i am saying yarvin is not a thinker.