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mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i recall a month or so ago when this happened and they tried to blame it on the crew.
mircea_popescu: how many were they ? a dozen yet ?
mircea_popescu is vaguely unsurprised that rando who spends his time vaguely considering "invertible compilers" for, obviously, javascript, has yet to actually produce a definition for itself.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-07: [01:53:54] <alice_> afaict christopher alexander is using "pattern" to mean a basic component of language, not the thing which macros remove
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-07: [01:06:18] <asciilifeform> 'Really, I think it’s too late for mainstream “Linux”. It’s gone. It’s done. Geeks of the world were easily fooled by a shiny new toy and a corporate propaganda campaign to match, without considering the engineering implications. You can still use a real (systemd-free) version of Linux, or move toward the BSDs, but if you stay with the
mircea_popescu: just a stray thought.
alice_: & the syntax is similar to a literal keyboard when possible
alice_: a homoiconic format for binding keyboard keys
alice_: i seriously tried lisp, i spent hundreds of hours coding in a variety of lisps, including clojure (ugh) and arc (lovely but it was for a production web server and it was completely unsuited to the purpose)
asciilifeform: i'ma meat for a spell.
alice_: seems to be a lot more natural language for a lot of humans for a lot of things
boolcrap: they have me doing odd jobs, doing prep work for a RE course they teaching at UM
alice_: afaict christopher alexander is using "pattern" to mean a basic component of language, not the thing which macros remove
boolcrap: i finally got official access to the place i am a contractor for
asciilifeform: quite like what, elsewhere, a well-written compressor does.
alice_: right, macro is an excellent way to use patterns in code (and is itself a pattern)
alice_: {A Pattern Language} is a book about the specific pattern language he built for architecture; http://library.uniteddiversity.coop/Ecological_Building/The_Timeless_Way_of_Building_Complete.pdf is the theory book
asciilifeform: alice_: if i see a pattern, i write a macro and it vanishes.
asciilifeform: which is not a bad thing.
alice_: i read http://www.loper-os.org/?p=401. it doesn't mention design patterns. i'm p sure i can guess correctly the bad thing it's complaining about, but i didn't get a model for how design patterns are a language bug
asciilifeform: http://library.uniteddiversity.coop/Ecological_Building/A_Pattern_Language.pdf << 1333337 w4r3z. but my impression is - claptrap.
alice_: if i had a dollar every time somebody made that joke
asciilifeform: 'Christopher Alexander is Emeritus Professor of Architecture at the University of California, Berkeley, best known for his seminal works on architecture including A Pattern Language, Notes on the Synthesis of Form, and The Nature of Order, Volumes I-IV. He is the father of the Pattern Language movement in computer science, and A Pattern Language was perhaps the first complete book ever written in hypertext fashion.'
alice_: mm. it's a mix of theoretical and applied architecture. generalizes nicely to all of design.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://wiki.tulpa.info/Official/FAQ << a (supposed) reader mailed this in. parody? or...
asciilifeform: 'Really, I think it’s too late for mainstream “Linux”. It’s gone. It’s done. Geeks of the world were easily fooled by a shiny new toy and a corporate propaganda campaign to match, without considering the engineering implications. You can still use a real (systemd-free) version of Linux, or move toward the BSDs, but if you stay with the easy-to-use, polished distros, you’re no longer really using Linux. You’re just fooli
asciilifeform: hoose to use corporate-maintained tools like OpenSSL, which are deeply compromised. Do you think the people responsible for HeartBleed were held accountable, and fundamental changes were made? Guess again. It’s simply ignored by most of Linux. (You’ll notice real UNIXes like OpenBSD did not ignore it and have begun serious changes. Yet even there, it took such a serious, obvious exploit for them to see the engineering problem.)'
asciilifeform: 'Remember Heartbleed? Don’t let that example escape your attention. OpenSSL is open, yet it is so large and poorly designed that it’s a dark mystery. Heartbleed was easily shown to be a deliberate hack, and was even deliberately coded to hide itself from tools that would otherwise have shown the leak. And it was sitting there in ‘open’ sight. Instead of using small, well-reviewed crypto libraries, corporate Linux developers c
asciilifeform: litism, simply put. The 1%. ... It’s much like politics – one wants to throw out the lot of them and start from scratch with real people. I know for a fact I don’t want either of these people working on security-related code in MY OS. Get lost, permanently!'
asciilifeform: ' Anyone who doesn’t know what he knows or who doesn’t behave/speak in the conventional way these developers speak is merely a troll, not worthy to partake in a discussion among the priests. And in his view Henson is simply too big to fail, too big to be held accountable for his actions, in this or any case, because he is part of the crypto establishment. We see these same patterns in politics and banking for example – it’s e
asciilifeform: 'These aren't people assembled for an actual reason, as a result of merits. These are people whose merits are supposed to be predicated on the mere fact of having been assembled. Not quite the same thing.'
asciilifeform rereading vintage golden lulzies, http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/#comment-107389
mircea_popescu: a government can never be solvent ; a government can never operate legally. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'While the Data Protection Commissioner was examining the BND in Bad Aibling, the secret service ramped up its equipment for 300 million Euros. And while the Commissioner waited for an answer to her report from the Chancellery, the government drafted a reform bill for the BND that not only legalizes the organization’s actions, but even increases its powers. This legislative package is scheduled to be adopted this year and will pres
shinohai: trinque: thx I just always found it annoying griible required a ;;more when it all fits in 2 lines fine.
mircea_popescu: you know this "you are very welcome daddy" think keeps reminding me of this ... i don't recall, maybe a succession of sms captions ? where a clearly competent streetwalker (of the sort that lives on street most days, checks into motel now and again) was assuring some random dude that she doesn't mind his friend beating her up.
shinohai: Notice jhvh1 doesn't require a "more"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it would be a terrible application for it, for 'high assurance' you want the MINIMUM TRANSISTOR COUNT
mircea_popescu: yes, but a z80 clone chip is no sort of fpga forcrying out loud.
mircea_popescu: we're discussing here, modern clone of symbolics machine, or a similar item.
asciilifeform: you'd like the thing to be the size of a breadbox ?
mircea_popescu: if i know they take a month i just start a month early.
asciilifeform: because the thing didn't have a multiplier.
mircea_popescu: i literally do not care if preparing the signed copies of warrants for s.mg takes a minute or a month.
asciilifeform: i have not succeeded in coming up with a 6502 rsatron that manages to generate a key before the battery (of any reasonable size) and the owner's patience give way.
mircea_popescu: yes, there is. i just gave you a few.
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/09/06/the-revolutions-just-keep-revolving-dont-they/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The revolutions just keep revolving don’t they.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck ? no chick wants a gf ; esp not a shitty emulation in male hardware.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why the fuck this error is so common, but it dominates anglosphere. "white knight" = dude who is trying not to be a good dude, but to be the best chick he could possibly be.
mircea_popescu: there is a clear market in high assurance hardware to do things such as signing, encrypting and bitcoin payments where time is not a concern.
asciilifeform: well do you want a box with no i/o at all, or wat.
mircea_popescu: sure. but the idea here is to build an upgraded symbolics machine ; not to build a competitor for current intel offerings.
asciilifeform: and i actually have a board with that part on.
mircea_popescu: so you know, for five grand you got a gb.
trinque: asciilifeform: looks like you've been doing marketing for a non-existent networking gear company all day
asciilifeform: but go and convince anyone to use a box with 2MB.
mod6: yeah, alright, i'll take a look.
asciilifeform: and we had at least half a dozen threads, e.g.,
mircea_popescu: if someone made a fpga-based clone of the symbolics machine that'd prolly get a bunch of people to wet their pants.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-22 01:47 asciilifeform: i actually spent the first ~6 mo. after i bought the lisp machine, trying to rig up, with fpga, a mechanism to read the fucking disk
mod6: so yesterdays discussion got me thinking about a lisp machine (lisp-cpu) with verilog on a fpga
mircea_popescu: i suspect this might become a meme.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-06: [19:34:58] <asciilifeform> A T E N C A O
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-06: [00:00:01] <asciilifeform> again who the fuck needs a rustbucket that costs a dollar per metre to move??!
Framedragger: it won't do the numbering if it's just a single line, like http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160906/from:1/to:1#1
a111: Logged on 2016-09-05 14:52 deedbot: Framedragger rated scriba 3 << An instance of a bot I wrote and manage. I trust it with log history, but if it becomes sentient and starts asking for money, do beware.
asciilifeform: anybody got a printed, cdrom, or otherwise offline archive of 'CVE' they're willing to swear by ..?
asciilifeform: eh, i met a buncha these poor sods in the flesh
mircea_popescu: such a charade by now.
asciilifeform: anybody got a tropos whatever ?
asciilifeform: etwork router product line. By impersonating the device, an attacker can obtain the credentials of administrative users and perform a Man-in-the-Middle (MitM) attack. Tropos has validated the vulnerability and produced an embedded operating software update that mitigates the reported vulnerability. According to Tropos, products are deployed across several sectors including the transportation, energy, water, emergency services, and cr
asciilifeform: 'This advisory provides mitigation details for a vulnerability that impacts Tropos Wireless Mesh Routers. An independent research group composed of Nadia Heninger (University of California at San Diego), Zakir Durumeric (University of Michigan), Eric Wustrow (University of Michigan), and J. Alex Halderman (University of Michigan) identified an insufficient entropy vulnerabilitya in SSH key generation in Tropos Networks’s wireless n
mircea_popescu: the guy was not shot. this is supposedly a country.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : when nixon and rockefeller were negotiating the treaty of fifth avenue, nixon's / gop's "platform committee" was in a hotel in chicago. they were on the phone for four hours ; but midway, as midnight came by, THE HOTEL OPERATOR PULLED THE PLUG AND WENT HOME.
asciilifeform: these are 'heavy industry' items, a la the siemens product starring in stuxnet.
mircea_popescu: (feel free to drop a pgpgram when done, of course, i "won't be able to prove it's mine" etc.)
asciilifeform: apparently they have a considerable market share in public surveillance cams and the like.
asciilifeform: 'Nothing says happy customer quite like repeat purchases. Recently, ABB Tropos Wireless Communication Systems installed a wireless mesh network at PotashCorp – White Springs’ 100,000-acre phosphate mine in White Springs, FL.'
asciilifeform: 'Our launch of the TropOS 6420, an outdoor broadband mesh router designed to enhance physical security applications in electric utility T&D substations, was a timely endeavor given recent high-profile vandalism and sabotage events. '
asciilifeform: 'Memphis, Tennessee is known for rock ‘n roll and slow-cooked barbeque, but those aren’t the only good things coming out of Bluff City. Soon, residents will enjoy the perks of a successful smart grid rollout, too. In an effort to modernize the grid and enhance internal operations and customer service, Memphis Light, Gas and Water is deploying 1 million smart meters within its 784 square mile service area. ABB has been selected to
ben_vulpes: what, to speak to a secretary
asciilifeform: who wants to give'em a call??
asciilifeform: 'Gunshot detection, alert and location identification – when a substation is attacked by gunfire it can result in significant damage to equipment and risk the safety of workers on site. A gunshot detection system typically can identify the type of firearm as well as the exact location from which it was fired. If video cameras are configured as part of the gunshot detection system, they may offer a visual image of the individual tha
asciilifeform: 'Around-the-clock monitoring of physical security at transmission and distribution substations can be a key factor in minimizing damage from a wide range of threats that are becoming more commonplace. It is well documented that unauthorized access to utility substations can result in hundreds of thousands of dollars in financial losses as well as cause power outages. Unauthorized access may cause such damage as a result of theft of m
asciilifeform: 201.101.37.44 appears to be connected to a https://www.insomniasec.com/downloads/advisories/ISVA-110427.1.htm (!)
asciilifeform: 2.116.209.1 is a huawei MA5600T series.
asciilifeform: a voip gateway.
asciilifeform: permitido estara sujeita a monitoramento.
asciilifeform: A utilizacao indevida ou a operacao que exceda o nivel de autorizacao
asciilifeform: A T E N C A O
asciilifeform: a bunch more have telnet open, and look like this:
trinque: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/23/world/asia/nsa-breached-chinese-servers-seen-as-spy-peril.html?hp&_r=0 << "But the plans went further: to exploit Huawei’s technology so that when the company sold equipment to other countries — including both allies and nations that avoid buying American products — the N.S.A. could roam through their computer and telephone networks to conduct surveillance and, if
asciilifeform: tropos: 'MetroMesh is a network architecture, based upon the Tropos System Architecture, for building Smart Cities. Smart Cities utilize MetroMesh to build metro-area wireless broadband networks for municipal applications utilizing open-standard radios and IP communications. A common physical infrastructure can be leveraged to support multiple municipal applications including Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS), Advanced Meteri
asciilifeform: ^ quite a few of these ^
mircea_popescu: the saudis have an actual culture. all the ustards have is a well lubricated hole.
mircea_popescu: it's a good heuristic to follow who a man hates, for you're liable to find who he wants to crib without giving credit.
jhvh1: shinohai: [KJV] Matthew 22:24 :: Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
mircea_popescu: if a) men are the structure and also b) men are not cowardly then necessarily you will end up with desperate female lines.
mircea_popescu: many ancient societies had a serious welfare problem which is :
asciilifeform: ^ this isn't wholly accurate. they also exist to give a repeatable zero to the mechanism. (otherwise mechanical switch would suffice.)