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asciilifeform: i traded a hefty shoebox of rubles for it.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that thing is a snore.
jhvh1: 2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
asciilifeform: alice_: think of it as a kind of boot camp.
alice_: asciilifeform: tell me more about why you're asking. this channel is assholes, which is a communication style i'm not used to, so i'd like more details :)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I finally acquired a pair of needlenose pliers that don't seem to suck
BingoBoingo: panniculus spread their legs in a seated position too far to reach the pedals
BingoBoingo recently saw a transmay get winded moving from their scootypuff to a riding lawnmower to see if the small tractors would "fit"
mircea_popescu: "So XEmacs has never been a particularly good tool for serious Emacs users because even though it's written in C, it crashes like a mature C++ application." mwahahaha ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "At the risk of predicting future fashion trends, which is rarely a good idea, I'll venture that objects are going to continue to be trendy for at least a few more decades. So I think Lisp needs some form of "seamless" OOP." and all that.
mircea_popescu: a ~certain~ groupthink, of a certain sort of people.
mircea_popescu: no, actually, actually architect wanted to just adapt a bsd
asciilifeform: bsd, recall, in modern sense, was not yet a thing.
mircea_popescu: this is a communist government ; the only cure is grave.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did i fall into a parallel universe some time recently where linus lifting the hurd userland never happened ?
mircea_popescu: "It's time [to] explain the meaning of "Hurd". "Hurd" stands for "Hird of Unix-Replacing Daemons". And, then, "Hird" stands for "Hurd of Interfaces Representing Depth". We have here, to my knowledge, the first software to be named by a pair of mutually recursive acronyms." << arguably its most notable accomplishment to date.
shinohai: "i lost the passphrase for the gpg key i created yesterday and i can't decrypt the msg mircea_popescu sent me...is it ok if a create another key and register with this?"
asciilifeform: 'Yegge accidentally made an internal Google memo public on Google+ in October 2011. His 3,700-word comment garnered major media and blogger attention for Yegge's pointed commentary criticizing the leanings of the company's technological culture (such as labeling Google+'s minimalist and, in his view, lackluster public platform "a pathetic afterthought") as well as for his comments about his former employer, Amazon (such as calling Am
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's rather evident that there's a mutually-reinforcing ring of idiots. check out yegge's wikipedia article, for instance. curated with love.
asciilifeform: yegge appears to be a thing much beloved by alice_ .
mircea_popescu: (apparently a badly balanced something or the other by steve yegge - you know, the supposedly notable derp behind http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com2006/04/lisp-is-not-acceptable-lisp.html and a whole load of java, ruby etc) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in other random, anyone play a game called "wyvern" ?
ben_vulpes: should probably have a block number in it, eh?
mircea_popescu: btw, was someone asking for http://trilema.com/2012/fucking-a-guide ?
mircea_popescu: yeah well... if only the original authors of the us had a way to prevent the current fucktards from using it in a way they hadn't anticipated.
asciilifeform: ticipated, like making a thermometer or payment system or 3D scanner. Someone who hasn’t paid for a license to attach that thing to their phone.' ( https://archive.is/WLf7L )
thestringpuller: omg 160 bucks for a pair of headphones that will accumulate in earwax
asciilifeform: coming soon to a pnoje near yoo: 'ЕГГОГ: UNAUTHORIZED EAR'
asciilifeform: in lulz elsewhere, 'The new iPhones will be more durable than any that have come before, at least when it comes to serious corruption from water and dust. The next-gen models meet the IP67 protection standard, which is good enough to briefly drop it in a pool (or, more likely, a toilet) but not good enough to shower with regularly.'
trinque: it barfed a "no address associated with name" trying to talk to wotpaste
deedbot hands you a broomstick.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck bother looking for a work. redditards, lesswrongians, you name it.
mircea_popescu: guy's a pretty good director/
mircea_popescu: seems pertinent, if compressed into just a coupla years.
mircea_popescu: i just assumed it's a matter of fashion.
asciilifeform: i had this mike, and a modern one, as a boy, and compared.
asciilifeform: 'audiophilia' is a psychiatric condition.
mircea_popescu: yes they weren't originally digitized. if you think 1960s microphones and buzzy electronics make for a better quality...
mircea_popescu: this seems altogether a dubious proposition seeing how for all the wankery now surrounding them, vinyl records are industrial mass products ; from a time when 8kbps was a lot.
mircea_popescu: a hillary who is also known for similar approach.
mircea_popescu: this stimulates a lot of outright insane behaviour in large companies.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: you ever try watching a movie on early bluetooth headphones?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller here's a little understood bit of corporate insanity : if a dying company dies normally, it is assumed the ceo & co were idiots ; if it dies as a result of doing something large and monunemtally stupid, it is assumed the ceo & team were brave souls who caught a bad break.
thestringpuller: this is why as an audiophile, I have a vinyl player at work.
asciilifeform: just a 'let's make proprietary jack' thing.
ben_vulpes: "why ditch analog stereo headphone jacks? well, we're still smarting from losing the firewire/usb format war, so we're going to pick a fight with a defacto industry standard."
thestringpuller: "If you have a favourite pair of older earphones or headphones, you can plug them into the Lightning or USB-C jack with a little adapter. Some will have splitters so that you can charge your phone and plug in headphones simultaneously." << what the actual fuck
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: from what it sounds like they can't make money on the 3.5mm jack, so they gonna make a USB lightning adapter?!?!?
asciilifeform: but iirc it still had a jack, with a rubber stopper
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ever since koreans came out with the watertight pnoje , demonstratively shipped in a jar of water, crapple threatened same
ben_vulpes: subject of ipad, apple is picking a fight with the 3.5mm audio jack
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: imagine you're a millennial raised on an ipad and your attention span lasts maybe 1 page of a normal novel.
asciilifeform: it is apparently a fad in yudkowskian 'rationalist' (yes) circles.
mircea_popescu: it is strictly possible that ~all the facebook/reddit/etc "profiles" belong to a single person.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: skinned someone else's thing << Just cause facebook lined up a billion idiots. And WoW poached MTG pkayers for "Hearthstone", kinda just biomass going from time waster to time waster
thestringpuller: anyhow. the srs MTG crowd actually think SoG is a joke, it may pull some player, but there's no point.
thestringpuller: also a tale in the desert gets REALLY boring
mircea_popescu: a right right.
thestringpuller: well tale of the desert isn't bitcoin based. that's a knights tale by the same guy
mircea_popescu: remarkably enough, the don't mention the ~only bitcoin game worth the mention other than eulora, that being a tale in the desert.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller because totally skinning a product is innovation now.
trinque: the cover theory makes a great deal of sense.
mircea_popescu: no, you don't "identify as a pony". you pretend to be interested in a preteen cartoon show because a) trying to talk with preteens online and b) if you do it enough maybe it normalizes.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 03:27 trinque: afaik you identify as a pony or some shit
mircea_popescu: much like habbo hotel worked a decade prior.
mircea_popescu: oh, i thought you meant ponygirls. iirc "brony" was for a while years ago a pedo rally cry.
asciilifeform: (there was a ru translation! and no one had any fucking notion that there ever existed the candy, much less that it preceded that children's cartoon.)
asciilifeform: who were originally a plastic toy, and the maker commissioned a 'toyetic' (actual term of art) tv show to market it with.
asciilifeform: it wrote to me (reddit has a pm thing)
asciilifeform: 'Bitcoin's marketing is predicated on poor "third world country" people adopting it for remittances. A high transaction fee network will come across as a betrayal. It is not something the powers that be will risk.' << didjaknow.
asciilifeform: killing per se is a normal and healthy thing.
trinque: being a killer is not absent in women, though they'll deny it with fuzzy bunnies all day long
asciilifeform: btw, 'alice_' (reddit) -- 'I am a tulpa created by a roughly similar process. Except in this case I took over from my creator and she died.' ( https://archive.is/AVQbD )
hanbot: (from mircea_popescu's latest) "A: A tulpa can think independantly from its creator, can have different opinions, views, tastes, etc. from its creator, provide companionship, talk directly to anyone inside the same body (including its creator and other tulpas), control and manipulate the physical body like you, recall the memories that you have if you give them the permission and more, but basically a tulpa is a conscious mind like you and can do the
asciilifeform: esp. considering that if you show up with so much as a slingshot in public, but for some non-usg-approved reason, you will at the very least be relieved of your valuables (incl. slingshot) by police.
shinohai: eggdrop had a *telnet* server ffs
shinohai: asciilifeform !~bible matthew 10:34 <<< this is why I said alf is a vengeful god, no better than Jehovah
asciilifeform: plaintext 'all-comers' net is not a thing long for this world.
jhvh1: phf: Error: "joke" is not a valid command.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Error: "fortune" is not a valid command.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: [KJV] Matthew 10:34 :: Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
phf: can also implement some kind of nerfing with iptables, using -m limit --limit n/s. there's also a stateful --seconds m --hitcount n
asciilifeform: the correct way to - while we still must - run traditional bitcoin, is with a wotronic net having 1,001 'tendrils' into heathendom (conventional nodes).
trinque: pretty soon you've got a onanismd
a111: Logged on 2016-09-06 16:31 mircea_popescu: lol! review the history. the bar in 2016 is "make a bot" ; the bar in 2014 was "get a gpg key".
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Error: "i" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: jhvh1 i mean shinohai : is there a web for your bash ?
Framedragger: IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE BUILDING A REPUBLIC ☟︎
Framedragger: there should be a bot which gives help about bots
Framedragger: !!s s il n'y a pas de hors-texte
Framedragger: and a bit of simulacra&simulation vibe, too
Framedragger: !!s il n'y a pas de hors-texte
Framedragger: btw this is such $s il n'y a pas de hors-texte
Framedragger: i guess it has a socialist bent to it - i thought - noobs won't read actual logs so might as well quote what's actually needed; and, it is useful for when it's just a couple of lines. but it does add to the thickness of logz.
mircea_popescu: or maybe i should have a way to direct it, i guess, http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160907/from:698/to:700#698 > alf then he pms that to alf.
Framedragger: only question right now, is this http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160907/from:698/to:700#698 a good thing - i think that it's not bad, too
Framedragger: of course a mutual recursive *chain* could maybe be constructed....
Framedragger: believe it or not bot writers (scriba just piggybacks on a general bot) think about these things, sometimes :p
mircea_popescu: but yes, we cameto a crossroad, where ai denizens are actually a significant enough portion of the republic's cohorts.
shinohai: All jhvh1 wants is to be sure you have a working copy of trb when X-Day comes