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mircea_popescu: this is why publishing and the resulting discussion is so crucial for any sort of desirable result, there's just no way to know what you need help with otherwise.
mircea_popescu: b) how would anyone observing intuit the distinction between happy case when a) above and sad case when you actually intend to work the ocean by hand-on-mug ?
mircea_popescu: moreover a) why would you even try if not because you're deliberately preparing the design of a trawler and want to get the minutia correct ; and
lobbes: yeah, automation does seem to be the answer to the sifting of the ocean problem. hard to sift through an entire ocean with a coffee mug
mircea_popescu: eg : ask ~every single blogger on wordpress.com~ whether they wouldn't like their own hosting. you know those shitheels a) conspire to fuck up the internet and b) fleece the poor noobs something fierce. why not hurt an imperial outfit while helping some rando anontards ?
mircea_popescu: other than that, the other comment is, maybe you/whole thing could benefit from automation.
mircea_popescu: so then you can say not merely "dropped ads" but things more detailed. like say http://trilema.com/2015/facebook-sends-traffic11eleven/
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-bicameral-world-in-on and http://trilema.com/2014/the-bicameral-world-in-one-roo both go the same place, but they're also different things, yes ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-29 18:07 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform one interesting tidbit is that trilema autoresolves titles, so if you remember that, you can always go trilema.com/lets-duckduck and it'll take you home.
mircea_popescu: for instance, cheap trick based on http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-29#1830756 : if i'm curious whether some slut does click a link, i just use a shorter version, then it's evident in the logs if she did. but anything works for this purpose, adding a &hurrdurr say, you can then grep for it in the weblogs. ☝︎
lobbes: what do you mean by tracking? as in it alerts poster if movement?
mircea_popescu: dropped ads: << did they have tracking ?
lobbes: formal to come
lobbes: well for now, a rough report on my actions thus far >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Gg8cU/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: hey, i'm not saying he's a bad person. i'm trying to get this thing going whereby it actually works.
lobbes: maybe more like that trilema I read somewhere, and it resolved that old question "if a tree falls yadda yadda, does it make a sound?" "no, because sound has a explicit meaning"
hanbot: fwiw, i recall seeing sales progress reports from lobbes in #pizarro multiple times
mircea_popescu: something like that.
mircea_popescu: and it ~may~ be the case that the actual definition of work is "that activity in which others can help you" plainly and directly.
lobbes: okay, I must get this blog functioning pronto. I have defined that problem at least, after our last discussion (established connections were simply exceeding apache max workers)
lobbes: I will work to address this
mircea_popescu: "it is impossible then for us to help you".
lobbes: to the question of "have you published anywhere?" the answer is "no"
mircea_popescu: what is this claim to an activity that can't be explained ? in what sense is it activity ?
mircea_popescu: is this sort of imbalance sane to any view ?
mircea_popescu: sand words on the topic you'll maybe achieve 20% of the sum total ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno if you appreciate this, at all, but consider : i follow fetlife for ~purely private~ reasons. on my own time, off my own money, for the lulz/orgasms of my own girls, and so on. yet i've published multiple articles including summaries, schematics, various discussions, on it goes. on the other hand, a bunch of you guys have been involved in a very comparable effort for about as long, and if tomorrow you put out ten thou
lobbes: Otherwise I have no problem continuing, though I have had 0 success thus far. I totally get the nausea aspect though; example of a post I had to muster 3 paragraphs to respond to in order to reach the 10 'non-fluff' post count threshold to be allowed to post an advertisement >> http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1710421
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-06-27 02:56 ben_vulpes: during the day: sweat! during the night: sweat! but also stare at the ceiling
a111: Logged on 2018-06-29 18:50 ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-6-27#388828 << i do not think that this line of business is worth pursuing further, and will tender my resignation for mismanagement if folks want it for the wasted time/effort. sifting the midden pile of the internet for people who worry about five dollars a month for hosting flies in the face of everything i've learned in #trilema about coming anywhere near the
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-29#1830836 << hey, so should I cease sifting of the ocean? i.e. does Pizarro no longer wish to pursue selling shared hosting? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: which is why they're so unprepared for it when they bite a "shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down" steel girder.
mircea_popescu: it's just... there's a bit from tlp linked in there, "truth dun matter, what's important is the subject"
asciilifeform: 'if anyone could tell me the real reason we have imaginary numbers that would be great!' << lol!!
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/so-whats-out-there/ << Trilema - So what's out there ?
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/06/29/the-moving-process-in-montevideo-continues/ << Bingo Blog - The Moving Process In Montevideo Continues
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you recall, v was asciilifeform's concession to 'no i dunwanna pedal the reactor rods with bare feet' of the other folx.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: asciilifeform routinely misremembers having v 4y ago. prolly because we were already doing signed chains of patches since day0 of trb. hand-cranked v.
mircea_popescu: sometimes it feels like forever ; then one checks and it's been 1mn unixtimes or so.
mircea_popescu: 2016. why do i think we had v four years ago ?!
asciilifeform: still the definitive, imho, work on the subj
mircea_popescu: your 2014 or what was it v piece still regularly linked today.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well, an organized article about all this that can be linked later for its datapoints would certainly not be a waste, neh ?
ben_vulpes: i suspect that the tidal wave of people who only understand poking buttons has drowned out the tiny sample of people who even know how to work ftp, and are being 'served' (as the main course, naturally) by facebook/wix etc
ben_vulpes: i am unable to distinguish advertising scamolade from the genuine article. i've reached out to an altcoin forum about advertising directly, and to some folks who pump ICOs to see about getting into their designers hosting pipelines, all to zero avail. not to mention that just looking at their existing websites makes me nauseous.
mircea_popescu: teh republic needs a whole bunch of managers, as it turns out.
ben_vulpes: public. i have high hopes that the rockchip will be a thing people even want, but i'm clearly out of my depth on marketing to the great wide web.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-06-27 02:56 ben_vulpes: during the day: sweat! during the night: sweat! but also stare at the ceiling
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-6-27#388828 << i do not think that this line of business is worth pursuing further, and will tender my resignation for mismanagement if folks want it for the wasted time/effort. sifting the midden pile of the internet for people who worry about five dollars a month for hosting flies in the face of everything i've learned in #trilema about coming anywhere near the ☟︎
asciilifeform: sorta how even the english folx resist phonetization
asciilifeform: trinque: they seem to like their wall, aha
trinque: depends on whether that barrier is keeping the right folks ~illiterate
asciilifeform: iirc mcarthur originally planned to ban hieroglyphs, but ended up relenting
asciilifeform: sorta the 'c++ problem'. 'i learned 15000 hieroglyphs and so will you, boy'
asciilifeform: trinque: they have not 1 but 2 'proper' systems, just slow to switch.
trinque: if they had a proper writing system, might be womende by now
asciilifeform: trinque: as i understand , all of the 'agglutinative' langs (e.g. turkish) work this way.
trinque: I can kinda squint and see stems and inflection in that
asciilifeform: trinque: they do.
trinque: asciilifeform: don't they do number with "particles" ?
mircea_popescu: one of the principal drivers of my cultural suspicion of the yellow folk.
asciilifeform: e.g. jp has only handful of tenses, and lacks ( just as cn ) noun genders or distinction b/w singular/plural
mircea_popescu: this because it's very strictly phonetically confined, so it works well for the continuation of classical poetry. because yes, ro has its own, unknwon, carmina buranas.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the simple perfect is deeply linked to [popular] poetry, such as say http://trilema.com/2014/maramu/
asciilifeform: any idjit can tell that the spring unwinds, e.g. the english lost good chunk of what i think of as basic moving parts of their lang, didn't even take 500 yr. but what ~winds~ the spring ?
asciilifeform: asciilifeform in particular is fascinated with the mega-puzzler of how the fuck pieces reliably fall off a lang. e.g. ru lost vocative case, but, say , czech, still has it
asciilifeform: experience similar to doing goethe after 'hande hoch, hitler kaput' de
mircea_popescu: you think ?
mircea_popescu: because yes, romanian may have 4 past perfects + a bunch of past conjunctives, putatives, supines and whatnot. and they're even intensionally distinct. but this dun mean most speakers can even notice the distinctions.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can reliably distinguish philologist from plain romanian, as the latter's not going to be able to produce the simple perfect form for the "a coace" verb.\
mircea_popescu: ma dusei la mindra-n sura si-i copsei o tochitura ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: can haz demo that hinges on the 4th ?
asciilifeform: eh these correspond to earthing, i.e. делаю , сделал бы, я бы сделал , as i understand
mircea_popescu: but anyway, leaving these nonpredicative perfects aside : imperfect (eu faceam) ; composed perfect (eu am facut) ; pluperfect (eu facusem) and simple perfect (eu facui)
mircea_popescu: and eys the conjunctive has a perfect (eu sa fi facut)
mircea_popescu: no, romanian has that separately.
asciilifeform: errybody has that one
asciilifeform: 'counterfactual' -- subjunctive, in eng terminology
mircea_popescu: and there's like 7 pasts.
mircea_popescu: there's three futures (plain future, perfect future, future-in-the-past) and a counterfactual tense (techniucally, also a future).
mircea_popescu: romanian also has them.
asciilifeform: upstack, moar lol, e.g. 3 past-pefect tenses. reminds of hungarian.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the ameritards copied the tech, made 'bactericidal plastics' for just about errything in household, guaranteeing the proud owner a high quality gram-positive experience..
mircea_popescu: the cause is related to that "On the basis of the model, each linseed oil molecule appears to displace 90 water molecules and occupy 6 hydrogen bonding sites in the wood."
mircea_popescu: for instance. but widely applicable. for instance -- did you know gekko ~skin~ is actually bactericidal ? most gram-negatives fail to survive the contact.
asciilifeform: incl in somewhat unexpected places ( talk to folx making vessels for liquid he, where pretty much all metals are porous )
mircea_popescu: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/226718611_Hygroscopicity_of_wood_impregnated_with_linseed_oil << item dredged up by the article even.
mircea_popescu: this is a major materias science topic.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-12 20:33 asciilifeform: i was recently reading about 'oilite', a type of self-lubricating bronze, that is still made in usa. the factory where it was originally produced, owned by chrysler corp., lived in the '30s. today it is a ruin, rats live in it. oilite is still made, in usa, but for how long - i have nfi, at some point it will become difficult to find people who will follow the ritual (yes, to savages, industry is ritual) and it will sail off to china
asciilifeform: btw re 'oil-impregnated wood', recall the porous bronze thing ( http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-12#1519905 & elsewhere ) , 20th c riff on that ancient tech. ☝︎
asciilifeform: recall hanbot's tale with the corn.
mircea_popescu: if all you wanted to do was shove the cobs up your butthole... why even leave missouri ?!
mircea_popescu: i'm still digesting this nonsense whereby some fucktard from missouri thinks saying the right words in the big city will turn his passion for inserting corn cobbs / other farm-bound implements into some kind of new life.
asciilifeform: if errry 'google engineer' is eaten by chechens tonight, it won't be a day too soon
mircea_popescu: but yes, re evident hand-curated blind spots. they're "having a conversation" over there
mircea_popescu uses this extensively
asciilifeform: ( almost to the point that one can determine what subjects are in index librorum prohibitorum... )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform one interesting tidbit is that trilema autoresolves titles, so if you remember that, you can always go trilema.com/lets-duckduck and it'll take you home. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: experimentally ~same situation on google, for trilema, statistically. i suspect not specifically, though (ie, the space between this 13% and that 13% is not random but carefully hand-selected) but im too lazy to check this.
asciilifeform routinely uses yandex to dig up old trilemas on keyword