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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo this wasn't intentional.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea. but i mentioned because a) wouldn't have believed the story and b) witnessed with own eyes.
mircea_popescu: btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862927 ; and similarly ANYTHING ELSE. the bar strictly is "more than three people get together who aren't mentally subnormal". that's it!)
mircea_popescu: (also great case study in http://trilema.com/2015/the-triviality-of-slaying-the-surviving-socialist-beast/ ; it takes barely a farthing's worth of concerted effort to rape ourdemocracy in any ghole you choose. the only reason pedophilia, necrophilia or w/e else isn't "legally protected" today is strictly that all pedos, necrophiliacs etc are fucking morons. otherwise, self-mutilation legally protected to the degree of http://
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> lmao the drug on wars. ok, i was entertain't. << Intentional
mircea_popescu: lmao the drug on wars. ok, i was entertain't.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 14:22 mircea_popescu: MEANWHILE, however, they have 100% unaccounted for the time externality. so basically it's a contest consisting of a guy without legs going about finding fault with people's fingers. because he's decided "legs don't count", and so as he has much better hands than the rest of those losers he should be captain of the football team.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to go back to that thread : i suppose the "portability" discussion is deeply broken in empire (and no, linus, rms and friends aren't "a republic of their own", they're leningrad school and naught else). consider how http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862894 drives the dilemma : "if the trouble of maintaining a tree is not justified, why do you think the iron discussed is worth having ? if you think the iron disc ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the puzzler of all time for the average fetlife-grazed chickie, too. "wait... you mean to tell me ~you~ don't really care to talk ~to me~ ?!@?!?! but pantsuited hilarity gave us our rights!!!" sorta "this development goes neatly against everything i've been told to believe."
mircea_popescu: because yes, there very much is such a thing as a bar for civilisation, or at the very least for conversation. ~could~ talk to anyone, much like ~could~ very much shit outdoors ; but one strangely enough discovers in a short time that... doesn't really want to.
mircea_popescu: soon thereafter returned, very puzzled -- why doesn't $x ever wash ?!"
mircea_popescu: i suppose they do create some obligation, as per ye olde "if you can -- you must", in the sense that much like girl can't imagien why she'd mate with dood who doesn't use soap, i can't imagine why i'd talk to dood who "has ideas" or w/e they call being filthy outside the walls.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 11:30 slycordinator: I thought it was him. I sent a PM earlier but wasn't sure if someone else was also involved.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862800 << afaik he doesn't read pm's. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so -- looking back to the crc32 situation, suppose that for whatever reason the consensus wasn't "yeah, should definitely have both" but "division is stupid, only tables are needed". at that juncture, ave1 could have made an alternate patch to the crc32-lookup consisting of merely a changed manifest, saying "Hey, for so and so reasons I think this should be a crc32-division, I intend to do it later."
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 03:55 mircea_popescu: the leaves downstream from EACH n1 needn't be identical, nor needn't be different. in effect, the tree now has TWO groups of maintainers : those who maintain type 2 tree, for embeds, will not === those who maintain type 1 tree, for general use.
asciilifeform: in unrelated noose, mod6 et al : loox like trb doesn't remove banned peers from its addr table ! i.e. offers their addrs up to others, as if they were proper noades!! i never noticed this previously, it had to wait to be found empirically. really oughta be fixed, and pretty simple patch. ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 10:15 mircea_popescu: specifically what i mean : if a process creates/deletes file on a very narrow schedule ; and another checks for file's existence on very narrow schedule, their respective pictures of when they think file exists and doesn't fails to match up.
asciilifeform: haven't found yet a clear answer re what my particular isp's wan frame size is, however. ( and i expect that it will be peculiar to the given isp's gear , and may not apply across the board )
slycordinator: shouldn't be difficult then to make the switch once i get everything
slycordinator: but i wasn't sure if the install stuff you had on your site would work for that instead of using a usb stick because of drivers and such
asciilifeform: this doesn't require any changes to the published example
slycordinator: So, I haven't purchased one of the devices but I'm considering it as a local NAS for plex.
slycordinator: Thanks for the pointer; first I've heard of it. I've used gentoo off-and-on for years. Although with my English teaching, I've mostly had to use windows since most materials shared around have been for MS Office (and the linux alternatives didn't work with the stuff usually)
slycordinator: I thought it was him. I sent a PM earlier but wasn't sure if someone else was also involved. ☟︎
slycordinator: Is anyone on here in contact with someone who runs loper-os.org? I got directed here from clicking the "contact" link there. On the site, people can't make comments on articles as the captcha software used is out of date
mircea_popescu: specifically what i mean : if a process creates/deletes file on a very narrow schedule ; and another checks for file's existence on very narrow schedule, their respective pictures of when they think file exists and doesn't fails to match up. ☟︎
diana_coman: onth I'm not sure I want Create to throw exceptions - I want it to create the file and that's it, I don't care if it exists or not
mircea_popescu: ave1 can't just sniff packets one node upstream ?
diana_coman: there isn't any question that I see remaining there; I think what happened was that I was thinking a bit out loud in the logs yesterday and I got to same conclusion basically but then you started answering to the first part and some things were not unclear at a distance too and so the whole thing
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 06:49 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862722 -> hm, multi for the sake of it would anyway be taken care of via who signs and who doesn't sign the various patches or trees; but anyway - do you mean you think there should be explicit multi-tree dependencies? this is what I was talking about there: tree A effectively links to patch B.3 in tree B so if B's maintainer regrinds then A's maintainer has to go on a shouting spree (as per "talk to peop
diana_coman: I read and re-read and I get the impression that this sort of delayed conversation doesn't work very well so I'll leave it for now
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862722 -> hm, multi for the sake of it would anyway be taken care of via who signs and who doesn't sign the various patches or trees; but anyway - do you mean you think there should be explicit multi-tree dependencies? this is what I was talking about there: tree A effectively links to patch B.3 in tree B so if B's maintainer regrinds then A's maintainer has to go on a shouting spree (as per "talk to peop ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 04:22 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862411 << but if you don't care about computers why are you talking to them ? you're not ~dependent~ on it, but i presume you care to some degree.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 16:25 diana_coman: once you bring it into your tree, you don't care about the original tree so ...how stuck?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862411 << but if you don't care about computers why are you talking to them ? you're not ~dependent~ on it, but i presume you care to some degree. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862400 << #1 thing you do, is you TALK TO PEOPLE! there is no jwz way out of politics. if regrind hurts you, tell them not to fucking do it ; and if they won't listen tell whoever will listen to not follow the new thing. and so fucking on. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 16:13 diana_coman: I honestly don't quite see the point of taking crc32 out for instance
mircea_popescu: the leaves downstream from EACH n1 needn't be identical, nor needn't be different. in effect, the tree now has TWO groups of maintainers : those who maintain type 2 tree, for embeds, will not === those who maintain type 1 tree, for general use. ☟︎
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated mocky 3 at 2018/10/10 16:39:15 << Mocky Habeeb. Wrote a book on Amazon DB ; works for infraWise (which is pretty lulzy, but don't hold it against him).
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 15:29 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862212 << I don't see how I could have shaved off just that rating while fixing the diana_away thing, but if it turns out I did, my apologies
phf: i don't think i'll be able to cut rename tonight, and then i'll be busy until friday, though will try to steal an hour here and there
asciilifeform doesn't disagree
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 04:30 Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862167 >> I don't see how it would necessarily be any simpler aside from one `if` statement. And there's nothing to stop listening on separate ports and getting all benefits asciilifeform mentions with different sizes
phf: i like how C 2012 standard says that x flag works "to the extent that the underlying system supports exclusivity". of course no indication when it doesn't..
phf: oh i guess i see why that would be tricky, because of the specialization. i don't know enough ada yet to know how to fix that... perhaps just renaming it to Temporary_File is sufficient ☟︎
phf: bvt: your patch has "Binary files..." at the very end of it. i assume it wasn't made with vdiff ☟︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, if they wish hard enough they don't have to not lie
phf: well, after reading the CADR documentation, source code and generally spending more time on a lisp machine, i realized that modern common lisp is a cargo cult. i'm not sure how naggum didn't see it, but possibly because his lisp was emacs/cmucl/franz
asciilifeform: it's actually one of the reasons i haven't ever finished rewrite of phuctor in cl. erry time i sat down to do it, barfed on one of these things
phf: one of the major wtfs when reading asdf code, is that when all the ifdef's fall through, hte system falls back to some seriously questionable solutions, like shelling out to unix level with elaborate commands (i don't remember the example, but it's almost like "mkdir {} && cd ..." type stuff)
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 00:17 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862183 << no, i don't use portability packages in my own code (they are the hole through which the darkness comes), and when something pulls it as a dependency, it comes from quicklisp
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862183 << no, i don't use portability packages in my own code (they are the hole through which the darkness comes), and when something pulls it as a dependency, it comes from quicklisp ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: hanbot: Thank you. I haven't found anything promising here yet.
BingoBoingo: billymg: With mp-wp the three most common sources of headbanging are: file and directory permissions, .htaccess (if running apache), and pressing into a populated direction (As in you press, aren't sure anything happened and press again into the output directory without cleansing it; prevalence of this one depends on particular v-tron used))
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, didja ever post yer cl block/tx eater src ? i seem to recall that you did, but can't presently find in l0gz
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862360 >> does 'restored' mean it should be in there now trinque? I don't see it. ☝︎
diana_coman: once you bring it into your tree, you don't care about the original tree so ...how stuck? ☟︎
diana_coman: maybe I didn't understand then what you mean by "patch that pulls in specific state from a parallel tree"
diana_coman: I honestly don't quite see the point of taking crc32 out for instance ☟︎
diana_coman: but other than this, I don't see any need or point for reground
diana_coman: though I don't yet see how would one bring them together afterwards without requiring BOTH of them
diana_coman: ave1, now the sig doesn't verify??
Mocky: oh, thx trinque. didn't get around to upping myself, just doing chores atm
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862212 << I don't see how I could have shaved off just that rating while fixing the diana_away thing, but if it turns out I did, my apologies ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: don't emerge --sync, folx!!!
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: Sent 1 hour and 25 minutes ago: <lobbes> bot's back. Once auctionbot is finished I will go back and redo the !Qlater tell stuff to sit on top of logbot as well (right now, this too is sitting on an old heathen bot that doesn't auto-authenticate with NickServ after fleanode disconnect shenanigans)
billymg: and even that can't be safely emerged as it would require an update to portage http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/ZYgae/?raw=true
lobbes: !Qlater tell asciilifeform bot's back. Once auctionbot is finished I will go back and redo the "!Qlater tell" stuff to sit on top of logbot as well (right now, this too is sitting on an old heathen bot that doesn't auto-authenticate with NickServ after fleanode disconnect shenanigans)
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862203 -> the point as I see it is precisely that physically there actually is only ONE type anyway so any different types/sizes is in fact a higher level filtering no matter what (i.e. having 2 different processes each with its own size doesn't mean that each will actually get only the size it wants) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 04:30 Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862167 >> I don't see how it would necessarily be any simpler aside from one `if` statement. And there's nothing to stop listening on separate ports and getting all benefits asciilifeform mentions with different sizes
Mocky: I don't disagree. I just wasn't able to infer this stance from your stated objection >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862166 ☝︎
Mocky: if a program wants to send 200 byte packets only, too bad, os won't allow cuz asciilifeform says your small number not godly?
Mocky: so long as you can assume one tru packet size, you can get some ada benefits + extra simplicity, that you don't get otherwise, no?
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862167 >> I don't see how it would necessarily be any simpler aside from one `if` statement. And there's nothing to stop listening on separate ports and getting all benefits asciilifeform mentions with different sizes ☝︎☟︎☟︎
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862196 << nope, haven't wrestled that pig ☝︎
asciilifeform: it's come to where i can't look at heathen coad for an hour without turning up an intractable barfology.
asciilifeform thought, naively, 'binary-types itself is ~1k loc, why don't i fix ~that~... 6 hrs later...'
asciilifeform: ( to nitpick painfully -- ~frags~ dun carry port; but you ain't fragging no moar, so this is not an issue )
asciilifeform: you wouldn't have to change anyffing else in about it, can pad the unused 2 bytes with rng.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 16:46 mircea_popescu: trinque she has a point, that table needs a unique on the fp column. deedbot can't accept registeration of keys it's already seen.
trinque: yep, I don't think so either. rater won't know where his rating went
mircea_popescu: trinque honestly merging can't possibly work
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 16:46 mircea_popescu: trinque she has a point, that table needs a unique on the fp column. deedbot can't accept registeration of keys it's already seen.
mircea_popescu: in the immortal words of FU (felix unger), "you have to MAKE gravy, it doesn't just come!"
BingoBoingo: And the hostage boys were so browbeaten they couldn't consider the local girls lest they become rapists
BingoBoingo: The chubbsters were SO BITTER they weren't getting attention from anyone but their hostage boys
BingoBoingo: Can't condition Rotterdam to not want Theresa May
trinque: can't wait to see a post on that either
billymg: logs seemed to indicate that trb on gcc > 5 simply won't work
mircea_popescu: moreover, the "difference between law and fetish is that law -- universal" immediately breaks down when i don't subscribe. and i can't be excluded, either, because that's the fucking value the whole thing's supposed to be predicated on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is pretty plain that the 'oh noez, you spammed me! i'ma write lengthy whine' chixx didn't grow up in '90s
mircea_popescu: if what you're doing is worht doing net can't be small enough etc.
mircea_popescu: but in truth, once "i suck, and THAT is why daddy doesn't like me" is blocked out, what's left besides "daddy likes me because i am exactly like him in all respects" ?
mircea_popescu: ye, he's not stupid in a way different from stupid. the frog's legs don't jerk because something to do with this particular frog. and so on.
asciilifeform: considering that tb didn't take off until euros packed themselves like spiders in a jar, in 'urban' hell..
asciilifeform: depends. it is interesting to consider that 'seppuku' didn't take off until actual conflict mostly flamed out
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo quick on his feet ain't he.
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> BingoBoingo, this is a short chick, btw, who walks around here alone on a daily basis, with a backpack for 6 years, never gets bothered << I suspect mircea_popescu's comment downthread explains it. A substantial set of the Latinos appear inclined to take anything that isn't bolted down, provided nothing bad happens to them from it.
mircea_popescu: or what, you think my interest in poetry comes from how i can't get cunt because fetlife, it's so fulla mp ?